Labour Will Be The Greenest Government EVER! | Interview with Dale Vince
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Michael caught up with green industrialist and founder of Ecotricity Dale Vince at Glastonbury festival.
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Ofc he'll be rewarded via lucrative deals to Ecotricty and a Peerage, He's giving green credibility to the Labour Manifesto - Watch this space.
100% agree, it was the same conclusion I was coming to the more I thought and listened, because we do know hes talking absolute bullcrap regarding labour
"The greenest government ever" doesn't have to be very green at all. It's a very low bar.
Greener than any other party that could win
What the hell does green mean?
@@nathanwitwerShorthand for environmentally sustainable.
@@flannel2699 Most "green tech" is essentially nothing to do actual green issues nor is it sustainable. Its just "lower impact" in some key respects if not all, and a way to eek resources out for longer.
However this really has to go along with actual green and sustainable practice which tech and energy is constantly overshadowing and confusing the issue around.
Because industrialists and asset capitalist are the only ones with the wealth to pay for genuine green and sustainable initiatives, which would entail a huge amount of wages for a vast amount of labour, and they don't want to pay for the huge cost of what's required, they want to continue living to vast excess maintaining their claims on all primary resources and energy required.
@@leifcian4288 Thanks.. but I was just giving NathanW the definition of broadly what is meant by ‘green’ re: “The greenest government ever” quote by the OP. I understand the term is a bit fluffy, context sensitive and often abused.
Just another industrialist. Never trust a capitalist.
Exactly this.
So dim! He is even campagining specifically against Carla Denyer and Sian Berry. We can disagree on the labour govt, but why the hell would you not want green MPs!!! He is a strange one...
Vote Green 💚💚💚!
Not dim at all; just dishonest
@@Ratbum I don't know, to be a founder of Just Stop Oil and to run Ecotricity, you have to be quite committed to climate justice. I genuinely do not understand him.
We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎
Green are against nuclear and want to drag Brits back into the EU and ignore the referendum result, 2 general elections and a decade of MEP elections.
They are therefore unelectable, so we'll be voting Labour in Brighton Pavilion too.
Already have 🤠💚
Dale Vince, greenwashing for the Labour Party.
He does realise that there are more than two parties I assume?
@@juliewake4585 the others can’t win, as he said.
You can vote green until you are blue in the face it won’t make the slightest difference
Vote Green ❤
We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎
@@jamesdunn8968I hope they get in.
@@theresamcghee8362 better pragmatically to vote tactically to kick a Tory out and increase the chance of getting a more environmental Lib Dems for the opposition, unless you’re in one of the 4 target seats where Greens have a chance. I suggest this as a lifelong Green voter but I’d happily vote tactically this one election if Tories had any chance where I am (luckily they don’t).
Yes, vote green to make sure we never get solar power, onshore wind, nuclear power or electric trains!
@@TheCam920 I’m sure there’s logic in there somewhere.
Credibility in tatters.
So utterly unconvincing it hurts.
Vote Green.
I’m in a safe Labour seat but I’m voting GREEN to send a message. It’s bloody disappointing how much coverage you lot get. Best of luck & hope you get all four seats! (and roll on PR !)
He's after some government contracts for when labour 'nationalise' energy 😂
Can you interview someone with some credible points please? Waste of a valuable life minutes listening to him
Love this comment.
This man is delusional if he thinks keith and wes care about the environment
Noone asked but keith thought people needed to know he’s ’not a tree-hugger’
Hilarious how he isn't backing the Greens obviously just wants to back a winner instead of standing on Principles & Conviction.
what would be the fucking point of backing a party that can not win under our electoral system? especially when the issue is so urgent. backing a party that has the ability to win and a party that has shown an interest in implementing some positive environmental policies doesn't appear to be an abandonment of his principles. the man has donated to the labour party for the past decade or so... he isn't just backing labour because it looks like they will win.
@@lougordon8168😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lougordon8168 Because a Labour government with a big majority will probably just ignore him. We need some strong opposition voices in parliament to back him up!
@@moldyolddough1 We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎
It’s hilarious how you think principles and conviction will help.
The greens might get 2 mps, so what actual difference will they make?
You are clearly a Corbyn cultist that thinks protesting your whole life counts for anything.
This man is so disingenuous that I can’t imagine whether I can believe him at all. And hooking himself to Starmer’s wagon, instead of two, or maybe more green MPs, makes me feel sick.
Only idiots hitch themselves to Green Party and believe they can make a difference. They can’t.
Agreed. His lack of eye contact and techno optimism is very concerning too. Biofuels,
“green aviation” and against heat pumps? WTF?!?!
His response to targeting Bristol and Brighton was incoherent
Businessman first, climate activist second
This guy comes across as so shifty
This guys definitely been made some promises by the Labour Party...
He says 'heat pumps are not the answer' but doesn't back it up with anything. 2/3ds of norwegian homes are heated with ASHPs! And they're a massive oil producing state - much colder than ours too!
Maybe he’s getting GBE investment commitments for his GrassGas ?
He totally lost me at that. Even replacing gas boilers with electric versions (not heat pumps) and focusing on zero carbon energy generation expansion in the form of wind, tidal and geothermal would be a far faster route to reducing GGEs.
All the technology exists right now to stop using combustion as a heat source and this Grass gas is just a vanity project by someone hoping to corner a market with his new buddies, the Labour Party.
“The greenest government ever” with no green MPs?? Colour me confused!!
We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎❎
Silly comment
The greens are never going to win power, they won’t form a govt
But you know that
What have the Greens done for Brighton Pavilion?
Everything is relative, no UK Government has ever had any green MPs.
@@jimpaddy79 Bute House Agreement ..?
"i would rather give those projects to great British energy"
Oh my god even HE thinks it's actually an energy company. Heaven forfend.
NJ - I'm not entirely sure I think he knows fine rightly what it is, his behaviour and actions would lead me to believe that he looking for some quid pro quo for investment under GBE. I also think he's sending a signal to the Greens for a punishment here for not aligning to his interests
British energy will invest public money in projects, so exactly the point he was making.
Nowhere did he suggest it would be an energy company - it may be a producer, it won’t be a supplier.
Seems like you don’t understand
What is it, really..? Initially I thought/hoped it was nervous-flag-waving-voter friendly branding for publicly owned electricity production but it’s all a bit vague. Perhaps intentionally so..
@@flannel2699 it will be a state owned company that invests in green energy production, so it will get involved in projects like new technology, expanding renewable energy schemes etc.
It won’t be an energy supplier, so consumers won’t be able to buy directly from them, but it will sell energy into the wholesale market.
This guy makes no sense, if we're trying to get the Tories out we need to back Labour in Labour v Tory seats. We don't need to back Labour in Labour v Green seats. If anything is splitting the votes is what he's suggesting.
Moving the bar a millimetre off of the floor is enough to be the greenest government the UK's ever had, and Labour might just about manage that. Forgive me for not getting excited about this record attempt.
Go and vote green then and enjoy them achieving absolutely nothing
So how about a retune to 1970 living standards as that was green.
NO FOREIGN TRAVEL
NO IMPORTED FOOD
ONLY FOOD IN SEASON
WORK AND LIVE IN CLOSE LOCATION
NOT MUCH FREE CASH TO SPEND ON FRIVOLOUS THINGS LIKE MOBILE PHONES.
"Heat pumps are not the answer, gas made from grass is" 😬 not sure about that mate😂
Yeah that was the point of realization for me too 😂
Electric isn't green green ... He seems to be wanting celebrity rather than greener future for all 😮
Harness the untapped power of the greatest renewable resource in Britain: impotent rage.
Mr Dale is full of it regarding labour. Big oil doesnt donate to Labour to be Green!
We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎❎
Big oil doesn’t donate to labour
He is a business man above all 😅
On the Restore Nature Now, march, I was at the back. As I approached Parliament Square, I heard Dale Vince speaking, and what he said was so confused in terms of addressing the climate and ecological crisis, that I despaired. He was talking about his electric plane project, claiming eventually it will eventually be able to fly long distances, with "no" pollution. What are these electric planes going to be made out of, rocking horse shit? I did write a lot more, but I've scratched it, because Dale Vince is not the enemy. However, nor is he a credible commentator on the climate and ecological crisis. I will give a couple of figures, that put things into context. Less than 18% of the global population, own a car, and over 80% have never flown at all, or in a given year. Those that fly regularly, are a few percent of the global population. Dale Vince, said you can't ask people to do without these things. Yet the vast majority of the global population, already do without these things, and the system is groaning under the strain of that extravagance now., and we're heading towards collapse. When he says you can't expect people to do without, he's talking about a tiny proportion of the global demographic, he's part of. We need to live within our ecological means. There is no sustainable, mass flying option.
Some false arguments there.
The world is led by the most advanced economies and they all need planes.
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv By the same token, can you not argue that the world is being destroyed by the most advanced economies with jets being a small part of the destruction mix..?
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv - Sorry, but those are false arguments, which demonstrate a lack of understanding of the climate and ecological emergency. As Professor Kevin Anderson, a leading climate scientist points out, there are no radically unaltered futures. What he means by this, is things are going to radically change, whether people like it or not. The surest way to the most unpleasant and adverse change, is trying to carry on with business as usual. It will quite literally, result in the collapse of our civilization. Nor are we talking about far off in the future. We're only one stop away from global food shortages, which in the current free market system, would produce food hyperinflation, cause massive social unrest, and could lead to civilization collapse. Remember, the UK is facing greatly reduced agricultural yields this year, due to the wettest 18 months on record, a consequence of climate change. There are similarly reduced agricultural yields, due to extreme weather in different parts of the world. All it will take, is in a given year, for there to be a number of these extreme weather events and runs, in a given year, to create global food shortages, which will totally disrupt our system. I can't use all the references for this, because I had my RUclips account suspended once, for using scientific references. But be assured, I can support everything I say, with impeccable scientific references, along with the likes of the UN Secretary General, Sir David King, the former UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser, the WMO and far more. None of the points I made are false, but your arguments are. It is not what people want, it is what is possible, and what will happen. All you need to not see this, is to be in denial or not acknowledging the scientific evidence.
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv To drop the bombs perhaps?
he's just a businessman, simple as. that why he say "you can't expect people to do without"...because he wants to sell them the 'alternative'.
Dale Vince has sadly sold his soul to Starmer's Labour Party, paul mason style
This guy is chatting absolute rubbish
Tell us why.
He isn’t though, if he was you could provide some examples
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv I'm not OP but one example would be heat pumps: in what way is gas from grass presumably then being fed into a gas boiler more efficient than heat pumps?
Because his electoral math is completely off point. There's no need to maximise the labour vote in this election at the cost of the green party. Arguing that Labour winning in those seats would be more conducive to a transformative left wing government doesn't work when the current Labour Party has shown that their policy will be anything but transformative
@@carlettienne2596 I have to laugh when leftists use the term “transformative”
used to like this guy before he started campaigning against greens
Peerage incoming.
I smell bullshit.
This fella is a fraud
They always disappoint don't they.
Sorry, couldnt watch it all. The comments here says it all really. No-one is under any illusion about Labours green credentials. And no-one seems swayed by Mr Vince. I think its time people could vote for what they want for the future governent. And not have to make the best of Hobsons choice and hope that whoever wins will actually stick to what they promised. Theres not a great track record of that last one happening..
Powering the world on unicorn droppings 😂
He's got contracts lined up. Unbelievable. He's very uncomfortable. Well done Michael.
No he hasnt
Maybe in a paralell universe.
He knows Starmer lied to get elected leader, right? 🤦🏻♂️😳
I’m shocked!
@@juliewake4585 I wasn't.
@@grayssportsalmanac85 a little sarcasm goes a long way.
He did not lie to get elected.
If you read the pledges carefully you will see they mostly still apply, those that don’t are because of economic changes
In any case pledges aren’t policy they are only an offer to the public to vote on.
Corbyn made lots of promises, but none of them have happened.
@@juliewake4585 😜👍🏽
Unreliable untrustworthy he and Starmer have a lot in common
Rock on Dale ❤
😂 thx Novara, I needed a laugh. 😂😂
Well, greenest government ever would not be any stretch
Yeah, what a let down.
Impressive man. Dale Vince is a real ‘grown up in the room’.
Festivals are so corporate . I remember the ones that were free, and truly wild.
Unfortunately the crime became too bad at Glastonbury without the walls.
Greenest government we've ever had but they are not half as green as the Green Party would be and not half as green as they fucking should be...
Yeah but did Novara pay for their own tickets or were they gifted?
Hmmmmmmm - he lost me totally at the bit where he’s campaigning against the greens in the 2 seats they could genuinely win.
Tell us where is Ed the bed milaband, gone to ground then suddenly on election day result out comes this head behind the curtains same with lammy how I love how I love you down by the swanny. And of course wait for it this smiling face of Blair the stare. Ole red eyes. Out they all come like ants looking for sugar.
I am with Dale
Dale Vince's perspective deserves to be credited on his arguments, which are valid arguments, about avoiding ways in which the right wing press can demonise the green agenda. As for his vision, knowledge, communication, temperament and technologies for delivering change, he does have these attributes, whether people agree with his political direction or not.
With this video description i could never bring myself to actually watch this. It was nice to get a feel for the viewers responses on this one though.
His rationalisations about backing Labour in Bristol and Brighton make no sense. Maybe as the owner of a private green energy company, he doesn't want Green MPs advocating for investment in community owned renewables projects. He also keeps saying that 'wind and sun need no public money,' so he's not expecting investment in Ecotricity from GB Energy. But renewables ARE generally still heavily dependent on public subsidy, because they're low margin - Aaron was discussing this recently with Brett Christophers on Downstream. Oh, and Ecotricity's biogas from grass plan is an ecological disaster.
Moving in the right direction 🎉
Not convinced by Vince! 😡
Giving money to just stop oil not for me
What happened to global warming?????
Its happening everywhere that nobody looks, its quantum you see, it knows when nobody is observing it, so, in the middle of the night there are huge heat waves and forest fires and the sea rises five miles, then, when the sun rises everything appears ordinary and calm and shitty overcast sand cold again ... they will invent some bs like this and give it a posh bs name, like 'warming beyond the quantum horizon', which they will then later rename as something orwellian or euphemistic or something, 'subliminal warming', I donno, maybe we should run a competition for the most rediculous phrase ... which some think tank working-from-home executive will adopt, and repeat at two conferences per year to justify his mega wage to pretentious twits ...
They would need to form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats or the Greens to be a green government. Or have the Liberal Democrats as the main opposition party with a few Green MPs in opposition as well.
thats just some random pill dealer you found ?
Very weak argument from Dale on the green MPs. Ex hippy that is now yuppy. Classic.
I'm pretty disgusted with Labour for pouring so many resources into trying to unseat/prevent Green MPs, instead of into seriously challenging Reform.
That goodness the Green Party prevailed! 😊
Im sorry Vince, I have a lot of respect for what you have done re onshore wind etc however, for the life of me i cannot figure out (even with your lame explaination) why you have something against having 2 or 3 green MP's.... My respect has dwindled just a bit, sorry....
I hope Labour do give him a peerage. He’s exactly the kind of expert we need in the HoL
The Greens have my vote in this Election 💚
He is full of it. No mention of his football club, which ecotrcity pays for. Apparently claims the gress is organic which tured out to be bull..
Until the focus goes much more on the impact of animal agriculture on the environment, everything is doomed to failure.
Why doesn't he think heat pumps work?
People's massive bills with heat pumps show this ... only an idiot (sorry) would get one ... its obviously easier to heat air inside the house as its warmer than the air outside to start with ... clearly, it takes more energy to gheat cold air than it does to heat tepid air ...
In physics, this is known as 'the conservation of energy malarky', which, is, you cant create energy out of nowhere. ...
But, it doesnt take 'thienth' to know that heat pumps are nonsense, just human experience of heating ... when its cold, you dont eff around with cold air from outside ... you keep the tepid air inside, and heat it ... obviously ...
the scam artists want folks to have good insulation, then ignore insulation by heating cold air from outside ...
To make money out of the stupid tech ...
To make money out of your lecy bill ...
Surprise surprise, the same shareholding portfoio entities own shares in the new tech companies, and oil, and elecy companies, and, all the big corporations pretty much
The 'green' tech is grey isnt it, and the grey men are making billlions from their new scam
Real green typically looks green, like plants and trees ... they are free ... 'green' councils are not encouraging such things ... no new allotments, no new community farms ... just new nonsense grey tech ... insane posh spending that feeds the new mega-rich scam
Because they're competition to his business interests
@@DaProHobbit They might be ... he might be dodgy ...
But ihe could be right and dogy ...
heat pumps ... heat the cold air and pump it in ... defies (a) commom experience, and (b) physics ... utterly ... its a mockery ... insulate your house, then heat the cold air from outside, using loads of electrickery, then pump it in using more electrickery ... heating tepid air that's in the house to a warmer temp is obviously easier and less energy ... try heating frozen soup ... then try heating room temperature soup ... durr ... massive scam ...
Scam for the manufacturers (probably owned by the mega rich), scam for the installers (the chosen new, even more corrupt middle class) ... scam for the electrickery companies (owned by the mega rich) ...
The same mega rich that own big oil, the oiligarchs, they are the oligarchs that own the corporations that will profit from the new stuff. Whether it works or not, they dont give a damn
This guy included coal and gas and nuclear in his mix of energy provision for ecotricity
He’s such a disappointment.
Labour are going to make some ‘big changes’ 8:57 ? Seriously?
Only because,they,ll price people out of using what they need...
...uh, russia didn't turn the gas off, the cia/mossad/etc. turned it off...
his answer doesnt explain why he is campaigning in lab/green marginals
I listened to that part 3 times. He did not. Can only be splitting the left vote
I feel this man is gonna be sorely disappointed
Delusional Royale on Starmer Steroids
In Australia (where I live) a minority labour government was a very successful progressive government for just the reason Michael suggested … the green and independent ministers were able to influence policy
So disingenuous, he's all about the 💰
Follow the money
He's been lied to and believed it. Mug. Or he knows it's lies and goes along anyway
I like a lot of stuff Dale has done, but it's very obvious he's just completely sold out. Will be interesting to see what he gets for his support.
To think we can get to net zero without a change in consumption activities or lifestyle is delusional.
yeah right
Dale is far too easily rattled by the daily mail and billionaire press
Do not trust this man
We are all voting Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎❎❎
If the election looked close I might understand his campaigning in the Green seats but it feels like an unnecessary own goal for green interests to do that when a large Labour majority is extremely likely. I do agree with him that the coming Labour government will likely be the greenest government we’ve ever had though (politically they had to cancel the headline 28 billion figure as the Tories were attacking them so strongly on it but the policies and plans behind it are still mostly there) and I’m a pretty optimistic about Starmer’s Labour. I’m a lifelong Green voter but I’d happily tactically vote for Labour or Lib to get rid of a Tory if they had any chance in my seat.
The tories are practically invisible in both seats do his argument doesn’t stack up at all. Greens will likely vote the right way on anything important do it’s a non-issue. Plus they can help keep climate/social justice front and centre. Greens in a Labour gov parliament is a win win.
A New New Labor government will be the greenest ever. The American dollar will decide every decision it makes. I suspect that Dale, like a lot of people have lost sight of what has been going on economically whilst focusing on energy.
I don't doubt that a Labour government will be the greenest ever, i doubt that they won't be green enough.
A very Green Party won’t win power.
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv and a planet that doesn't take climate action as fast as is necessary has a troubling future ahead. Catch 22.
@@Boopop1024 there’s no catch 22
There’s no chance of a radical Green Party winning power
Don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv Labour will be vastly better than the Tories on the climate and in general. There’ll be a lot of pressure after the election for electoral reform too and if we get that in time that would significantly help the Green party. I’ve voted Green all my life but I’d happily tactically vote for Labour or Lib Dems to get rid of a Tory this election (if the Tory had a chance in my seat).
It’s a very low bar..
That's a pretty low bar.
This is what proper journalism looks like. Fair play to Vince but he just sounds like he's scared of being radical cos of what the right wing media would say. Fuck em
I totally disagree with him, and I think he’s not that smart about what he does, but at least he answers questions honestly.
The mask has slipped on this guy. No real praise for Labour other than they’re not the tories.
This guy seems a little off.
Always taken a dislike to Mr Egotricity, but this transparent play to become a Labour peer is shameful
What even is that haircut?
Really? You're commenting on his haircut? It's his chosen one, that's what it is, why does it matter?
@@mjwilliamsb2676 haha it just really bamboozles me sorry
@@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo I don't like it much, but it doesn't bother me - He's just a really unconventional individual, bit of maverick, so that's likely why he has that haircut, but I'm more interested in what he says and does... We need our mavericks!
Eww.
Looks boomer, talks like one two, full of plot holes, I don't trust him
Don't trust this guy
Well done boy👍