Growing up in Arizona, needless to say that I’ve seen my fair share of Spring Training games. I’m not joking but even after he was an established pitcher, he would wait until he signed EVERY single autograph. I hate the Cubs but I will never have one bad word to say about him. NEVER. If by some random chance that he sees this, Greg, I just want to thank you for making a small group of kids think that anyone can become successful in anything as long as we kept our heads down and worked out ass off while being humble and understanding that no one achieves success in life(not just monetarily)without the help of others!!!! We saw you, we listened to you and we never give up and stay focused on the task(s) in front of us. Thank you
Saying that Greg Maddux "regularly threw one of the slowest fastballs in baseball" was true in the final stages of his career. It was not true for most of it, as his fastball regularly hit up to 95 mph, which was ridiculous in the 90s. His ability to throw GAS should make his control even more impressive.
95 mph wasn’t ridiculous in the 90’s. You had guys like Nolan Ryan for a bit, Clemens, Johnson, Pedro Martinez, and more. 95 isn’t bad at all, but not ridiculous.
@@K.DwizzleThe average fastball in 2007-2008 was under 92 mph. This was measured using statcast right out of the pitcher’s hand. Maddux was registering at mid 90’s in the 80’s, when the gun was reading closer to home plate. To say that it wasn’t insane because of a few other hall of famers (or steroid users) is just wrong.
@@boplic2793I think he maybe didn't have the craziest fastball in baseball, but still a very good one. It's also the case he didn't throw full power on every fastball. Part of his skill that tricked hitters the worst was the ability to throw different speeds of fastball, he could throw 95 one pitch and 92 the next to keep hitters from getting their timing down -- and according to him his actual top velocity was like 97-98 but he only pulled that out when he actually needed it. And that's the main reason he was able to pitch so many complete games -- an underrated aspect of his game, because would you rather have 6 innings of Maddux throwing 98 and 3 of your bullpen or 9 innings of Maddux throwing 95?
Growing up in the 90s I was a huge Braves fan and Maddux was my favorite, by far! He was truly an inspiration! He was the ace in a starting rotation full of aces! I grew up in a small Montana town and the Braves were on tv almost every day and I never missed a game. Maddux was different then the average starter. He mastered control and demonstrated how it was more important than velocity. I was a pitcher in little league, high school and went on to receive a scholarship to pitch in college. Elbow and shoulder issues would end my college career early but it was Greg Maddux that inspired me to chase that dream while I could! For me, he is the GOAT of starting pitchers!
His prank on Kris Bryant at the batting cages was legendary and showed that he still had the stuff that made hitters look foolish, its well worth the watch.
My mom's favourite pitcher. I still remember when a friend of mine gave me an Atlanta Braves jersey and I went to a sports store on Yonge Street in Toronto and got it crested with "Maddux 31" on the back. She LOVED it. She wore it almost as often as her Blue Jays "Gaston 43" jersey. Anyhoo, Greenlight, you're videos are great and I hope the content keeps on coming!
Great Video weird thumbnail but it got me here so it's all good. That 90's braves group of pitchers had me practicing every pitch especially Maddux he was just amazing haha and this coming from a Mets Lifer go figure lol
One of the best games I ever attended was in 04 when Maddox faced Clemons. Was Houston vs Chicago and only the 3rd or 4th time 2, 300 game winners faced each other and Clemons got mud stomped and got pulled before the 5th inning !
A true pitcher. All these guys do today is throw hard. A major league hitter will eventually catch up to whatever velocity it is no matter how hard its thrown.
Greg Maddux mastered baseball with a surgeon's precision, proving you don't need velocity to dominate. But imagine if today's pitchers prioritized control over speed... would anyone come close to his genius? ⚾🎯
He actually does have good velocity though. The guy wasn't some soft tosser, especially in his prime. He happens to sacrifice his velocity for the most part.
I cannot imagine how much time and effort it took to make this video. So much research. So much time piecing together footage. You deserve your own Cy Young!
At the 7:50 mark is a great example of how to frame a pitch. The catcher took a pitch that was a ball and made it look like a strike by the way he caught it. Modern catchers have no idea how to do that.
By the way, grandpa, today's catchers frame at least as well as catchers did in earlier eras, as today's catchers have the benefit of technology. There are plenty of catchers who are brilliant at framing, such as the 23 year old Mets' receiver, Francisco Alvarez.
The baseball writers are full of old stuffy dudes, many who have a problem voting guys in on the first year. Now, you get Harold Baines and Tim Raines, but no Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, or ARod.
He's stated multiple times he was fully intent on going to the yanks, but something happened(rumored to be that a yanks higher up had a heart attack) and the yanks never called him back so he went w braves. Thank God lol
Slight correction: A "Maddux" is a complete game *shutout* in which the pitcher throws fewer than 100 pitches. (I can remember when another Maddux protege and Cub, Kyle Hendricks, pitched a complete game shutout with only 86 pitches. Kyle didn't have as glorious a prime as Maddux, but his similar approach to pitching with control and changing speeds earned him the same nickname: The Professor.)
Maddux wasn't "unorthodox." He was a guy who didn't throw mid/high 90s, so he learned how to pitch. Learning how to pitch is something all pitchers must learn to do when their stuff isn't as good as it once was. You don't see much of this anymore and this contributes to the fact that starting pitchers today are expected to throw five innings a game topping 95 mph. Pitching used to be a craft. Today, it's radar gun fodder and multiple Tommy John surgeries. Just so happens, Maddux learned his craft better than anyone else -- but look at his early years. In his first two seasons, he pitched about 185 innings total and had an ERA around 5.60. Then he hit stride. HIs game was about "hitting his spots." And he could hit them all at any time. His K to BB ratio was 3+ to 1. So, learning his craft and perfecting his control allowed him to throw a fastball that maybe hit 92 and to locate his strikes in order to win 4 straight Cy Young Awards in the height of the steroid era. His best pitch, he said, was a first-pitch strike. Get that first one over, it's all downhill from there. He never needed Tommy John surgery. He won 15 games or more every year from 1988 through 2004. In 2005, he won 13 but, in 2006, he won 15 again followed by 14 more in 2007. There's never been a better model for pitchers who don't rely on gas alone, but we've not seen anyone like him since he retired.
The summer of 89 I would watch days games of the Cubs on WGN. They had a good team that year. I’m a Tiger fan but we got a lot more televised Cubs and Braves (WTBS) games back then. Watch Cubs during the day and go see a Tiger game in the bleachers at Tigers Stadium for like $3 that summer. The Tigers were horrible that year but I still went to dozens of games. Great times.
As a former 5’11”, 125 lb, precision pitcher in high school and amateur leagues beyond, Maddux was the absolute best (which drove me INSANE as a lifelong Mets fan).
5'11 125? What did you tie yourself off to when the when the wind blew? You must have been made of paper...I imagine you had to be a control pitcher when you could only throw 12 mph. Greg Maddux was 6'0 170. Even Pedro was 5'11 170.
@@why-even-try-brotendofirst you got proof of steroids use? ......didnt think so Second, no he couldn't stop bonds. Don't you know he said bonds was the easiest batter he ever faced. You give him 4 and send him on his way to first
2nd best in his Era after Pedro. Pretty good. Considering randy Johnson, shilling, and Clemens played then. Kevin brown , mussina, pettite, smoltz, glavine were really good too.
It’s a shame there aren’t more pitchers with a similar approach like Maddux cause then baseball would be far more fun to watch from a strategic standpoint. The current style says “Throw as hard as you can somewhere in the strike zone and you’ll do good.” Someone like Glasgow is typical of this.
Las Vegas Area 51's are a cool minor league baseball team. I took my son to watch a game and when the game ended the left fielder ran up and gave my son the game ball.
Nothing about Maddux satisfies me more than his career win total. He won exactly one more game -- 355 to 354 -- than Clemens. Verlander will be 42 this year. He has 262 career wins. He will probably not break the 300 mark. The 300 Club is probably Closed. For all pitchers who played sine 1966 -- the year Maddux was born -- he is the winning-most. Including all pitchers of all time, he ranks 8th. And no one would ever even joke about Maddux using steroids.
You're kidding? Right? Back then there was only 2 divisions within each league. (NL & AL) And East & West divisions. Implemented in 69 & in 94 the central was added
Pretty sure you don’t have to imagine it as they were both peak in the early 90’s and in the NL. I don’t recognize the late stage, steroid monster that would crowd the plate with that ridiculous arm guard.
I always know people and documentaries no nothing about base ball .. Maddux threw 92 95 mph in his early years and prime... Maddux was a big prospect and could throw hard... when he gained more control, he evolved...... yes, Maddux pitched many games at 88mph it was when he was 38 to 42...
His method was not unorthodox at all. In his prime, his fastball sat between 91-93 mph so you can't say he lacked velocity. Anyhow, your description of Maddux overall is not particularly accurate.
Nice use of both pictures and video clips, which probably took forever to compile. Otherwise, pretty dumb video. Nobody thought Maddux was the premier pitcher in baseball at any time, certainly not while Pedro and Randy were in their primes. Maddux's horrendous postseason numbers didn't help. And the narration makes you sound baked. I just gave up about 60% of the way through. The overdramatization and exaggerations have taken their toll.
@@LordTeaboBaggins Especially if a pitcher doesn't know how to use it unless you have a crazy stamina to throw many pitches like Nolan Ryan and that was rare.
Growing up in Arizona, needless to say that I’ve seen my fair share of Spring Training games. I’m not joking but even after he was an established pitcher, he would wait until he signed EVERY single autograph. I hate the Cubs but I will never have one bad word to say about him. NEVER. If by some random chance that he sees this, Greg, I just want to thank you for making a small group of kids think that anyone can become successful in anything as long as we kept our heads down and worked out ass off while being humble and understanding that no one achieves success in life(not just monetarily)without the help of others!!!! We saw you, we listened to you and we never give up and stay focused on the task(s) in front of us.
Thank you
That thumbnail i never would have guessed that's maddux
💯 Facts! Because it looks nothing like him.
Haha had no idea it was Maddux clicked to see what AI created athlete was this. Happy to watch this about Maddux though
Saying that Greg Maddux "regularly threw one of the slowest fastballs in baseball" was true in the final stages of his career. It was not true for most of it, as his fastball regularly hit up to 95 mph, which was ridiculous in the 90s. His ability to throw GAS should make his control even more impressive.
95 mph wasn’t ridiculous in the 90’s. You had guys like Nolan Ryan for a bit, Clemens, Johnson, Pedro Martinez, and more. 95 isn’t bad at all, but not ridiculous.
His FB averaged less than 95. It was closer to low 90s for much of his career, then, mid/high 80s at the back end.
@@K.DwizzleThe average fastball in 2007-2008 was under 92 mph. This was measured using statcast right out of the pitcher’s hand. Maddux was registering at mid 90’s in the 80’s, when the gun was reading closer to home plate. To say that it wasn’t insane because of a few other hall of famers (or steroid users) is just wrong.
@@boplic2793I think he maybe didn't have the craziest fastball in baseball, but still a very good one. It's also the case he didn't throw full power on every fastball. Part of his skill that tricked hitters the worst was the ability to throw different speeds of fastball, he could throw 95 one pitch and 92 the next to keep hitters from getting their timing down -- and according to him his actual top velocity was like 97-98 but he only pulled that out when he actually needed it. And that's the main reason he was able to pitch so many complete games -- an underrated aspect of his game, because would you rather have 6 innings of Maddux throwing 98 and 3 of your bullpen or 9 innings of Maddux throwing 95?
Not to mention Maddux happened to sacrifice his velocity for better control for the most part but the narratives had people thinking he's Ed Lopat.
Growing up in the 90s I was a huge Braves fan and Maddux was my favorite, by far! He was truly an inspiration! He was the ace in a starting rotation full of aces! I grew up in a small Montana town and the Braves were on tv almost every day and I never missed a game. Maddux was different then the average starter. He mastered control and demonstrated how it was more important than velocity. I was a pitcher in little league, high school and went on to receive a scholarship to pitch in college. Elbow and shoulder issues would end my college career early but it was Greg Maddux that inspired me to chase that dream while I could! For me, he is the GOAT of starting pitchers!
His prank on Kris Bryant at the batting cages was legendary and showed that he still had the stuff that made hitters look foolish, its well worth the watch.
“sound guy has a good curve ball” 💀💀💀💀
My mom's favourite pitcher. I still remember when a friend of mine gave me an Atlanta Braves jersey and I went to a sports store on Yonge Street in Toronto and got it crested with "Maddux 31" on the back. She LOVED it. She wore it almost as often as her Blue Jays "Gaston 43" jersey. Anyhoo, Greenlight, you're videos are great and I hope the content keeps on coming!
The professor should be the blueprint for pitching. The radar gun has destroyed more arms than I can count.
a thousand thumbs up!!!!
Damn I didn't know his nickname was the Professor before Kyle Hendricks but it makes so much sense now!
EXCELLENT video. Great clips and I love your commentary on his career as well.
Living in ATL for the 80's and 90's...I got used to Glavine Maddox and Smolts. It's what we did..
Chick's dig the long ball
@@ingibingi2000 Reminds me of that ad where Glavine and Maddux decides to take up hitting home runs.
@@Iamhungey exactly what I was making reference to
Tom Glavine was a beast too
One thing that was not mentioned is that Greg Maddux while being a major sports star was also a really nice guy.
Great Video weird thumbnail but it got me here so it's all good. That 90's braves group of pitchers had me practicing every pitch especially Maddux he was just amazing haha and this coming from a Mets Lifer go figure lol
One of the best games I ever attended was in 04 when Maddox faced Clemons. Was Houston vs Chicago and only the 3rd or 4th time 2, 300 game winners faced each other and Clemons got mud stomped and got pulled before the 5th inning !
A true pitcher. All these guys do today is throw hard. A major league hitter will eventually catch up to whatever velocity it is no matter how hard its thrown.
Watched Maddux with the cubs and he normally lived around 91-92 mph. His kind of movement & location at low 90's = dominance.
That Cleveland Indians line up, was insane!
Greg Maddux mastered baseball with a surgeon's precision, proving you don't need velocity to dominate. But imagine if today's pitchers prioritized control over speed... would anyone come close to his genius? ⚾🎯
He actually does have good velocity though. The guy wasn't some soft tosser, especially in his prime. He happens to sacrifice his velocity for the most part.
I cannot imagine how much time and effort it took to make this video. So much research. So much time piecing together footage. You deserve your own Cy Young!
He makes money off of the views which is why he does it. I'm sure...
His voice though is kinda annoying. Kinda valley girlish & exaggerated. No?
Good video. It's obvious you put in the work. Keep plugging man.
the giants broke my heart in 89 and i forever hate them to this day
What a great PIECE!! Outstanding rare footage!! 👏👏👏👏👍👍
At the 7:50 mark is a great example of how to frame a pitch. The catcher took a pitch that was a ball and made it look like a strike by the way he caught it. Modern catchers have no idea how to do that.
Also, the ump was blind.
By the way, grandpa, today's catchers frame at least as well as catchers did in earlier eras, as today's catchers have the benefit of technology. There are plenty of catchers who are brilliant at framing, such as the 23 year old Mets' receiver, Francisco Alvarez.
Seeing Greg with a mustache is wild! Go Braves!
The fact that he didn't receive 100% of the vote is the exact reason I hardly care about HoF 😂
The baseball writers are full of old stuffy dudes, many who have a problem voting guys in on the first year. Now, you get Harold Baines and Tim Raines, but no Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, or ARod.
He's stated multiple times he was fully intent on going to the yanks, but something happened(rumored to be that a yanks higher up had a heart attack) and the yanks never called him back so he went w braves. Thank God lol
Slight correction: A "Maddux" is a complete game *shutout* in which the pitcher throws fewer than 100 pitches. (I can remember when another Maddux protege and Cub, Kyle Hendricks, pitched a complete game shutout with only 86 pitches. Kyle didn't have as glorious a prime as Maddux, but his similar approach to pitching with control and changing speeds earned him the same nickname: The Professor.)
His stats were amazing. 17 straight seasons of 15+ wins. Multiple 19 win seasons, and 190+ SO seasons.
Maddux wasn't "unorthodox." He was a guy who didn't throw mid/high 90s, so he learned how to pitch.
Learning how to pitch is something all pitchers must learn to do when their stuff isn't as good as it once was. You don't see much of this anymore and this contributes to the fact that starting pitchers today are expected to throw five innings a game topping 95 mph.
Pitching used to be a craft. Today, it's radar gun fodder and multiple Tommy John surgeries.
Just so happens, Maddux learned his craft better than anyone else -- but look at his early years. In his first two seasons, he pitched about 185 innings total and had an ERA around 5.60.
Then he hit stride.
HIs game was about "hitting his spots." And he could hit them all at any time. His K to BB ratio was 3+ to 1.
So, learning his craft and perfecting his control allowed him to throw a fastball that maybe hit 92 and to locate his strikes in order to win 4 straight Cy Young Awards in the height of the steroid era.
His best pitch, he said, was a first-pitch strike. Get that first one over, it's all downhill from there.
He never needed Tommy John surgery. He won 15 games or more every year from 1988 through 2004. In 2005, he won 13 but, in 2006, he won 15 again followed by 14 more in 2007.
There's never been a better model for pitchers who don't rely on gas alone, but we've not seen anyone like him since he retired.
The summer of 89 I would watch days games of the Cubs on WGN. They had a good team that year. I’m a Tiger fan but we got a lot more televised Cubs and Braves (WTBS) games back then. Watch Cubs during the day and go see a Tiger game in the bleachers at Tigers Stadium for like $3 that summer. The Tigers were horrible that year but I still went to dozens of games. Great times.
Meanwhile in Dallas, Deon Sanders Ring Chasing between the 90s Cowboys and Niners. How Brave you are Deon
As a former 5’11”, 125 lb, precision pitcher in high school and amateur leagues beyond, Maddux was the absolute best (which drove me INSANE as a lifelong Mets fan).
5'11 125? What did you tie yourself off to when the when the wind blew? You must have been made of paper...I imagine you had to be a control pitcher when you could only throw 12 mph. Greg Maddux was 6'0 170. Even Pedro was 5'11 170.
Maddox didn’t throw a slow fastball.. he threw 93-94 in his prime. Still though good video
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Maddux with that mustache looking like real life Uncle Rico!
I still have nightmares about Maddux from when I was a kid(I'm a Giants fan)
He was the only one with the ability to stop steroid Barry Bonds.
@@why-even-try-brotendofirst you got proof of steroids use? ......didnt think so
Second, no he couldn't stop bonds. Don't you know he said bonds was the easiest batter he ever faced. You give him 4 and send him on his way to first
great videos man hopefully you do one on Ken Griffey Jr soon. and Ryne Sandberg
also George Brett
damn i missed too many episodes happy new year toronto guy
He could never strike Tony Gwynn out either. Ground outs flyouts or hits, Tony never had to take a seat on the bench after being fooled by Maddox
He was: The quiet assassin
2nd best in his Era after Pedro. Pretty good. Considering randy Johnson, shilling, and Clemens played then. Kevin brown , mussina, pettite, smoltz, glavine were really good too.
I'm going Maddux 1 due to that insane prime. Literally every game was under 2 hours in the mid 90s
Don't forget Steve Nebraska
Pedro,great joke😅😆😂😄🤭👉
Maybe if Pedro wasn't a glass cannon.
@@alexjones6190 What? Pedro had the best prime ever by far. Maddux only had him longevity. You have this totally backwards.
It’s a shame there aren’t more pitchers with a similar approach like Maddux cause then baseball would be far more fun to watch from a strategic standpoint. The current style says “Throw as hard as you can somewhere in the strike zone and you’ll do good.” Someone like Glasgow is typical of this.
And it's a little wonder starting pitchers has gotten more prone to injury than before.
@ Exactly. Hopefully the epidemic of TJ will convince a new generation to do otherwise.
I wonder if he has considered being a Pitching coach, doing pitching camps, etc…
maddox rookie season he was relying on throwing 90+ fastballs. in 89' he went to more movement not speed
Las Vegas Area 51's are a cool minor league baseball team. I took my son to watch a game and when the game ended the left fielder ran up and gave my son the game ball.
Nothing about Maddux satisfies me more than his career win total. He won exactly one more game -- 355 to 354 -- than Clemens.
Verlander will be 42 this year. He has 262 career wins. He will probably not break the 300 mark.
The 300 Club is probably Closed.
For all pitchers who played sine 1966 -- the year Maddux was born -- he is the winning-most. Including all pitchers of all time, he ranks 8th.
And no one would ever even joke about Maddux using steroids.
2nd and 3rd isn't a force play play at home. 14:40
I’m not a baseball fan but this was interesting.
Every comment posted in the first day I'll make sure to respond to!
Your blurb line doesn't make any sense. Can anyone explain it?
Well, this is something. Enjoyable.
Didn't know interleague play didn't start till 97. Thought it was in 70s.
You're kidding? Right? Back then there was only 2 divisions within each league. (NL & AL) And East & West divisions. Implemented in 69 & in 94 the central was added
That person on the cover of this video looks nothing like Greg Maddux at any point in his entire life! 😂
He was great but that 90's Braves strike zone was absurd.
Yeah that's the reason for his incredible career statistics 🙄
@@jonnyblayze5149 Tbh it helped.
Haters
I will bet you never saw him pitch only heard stuff on the internet. Pitchers now get more pitches than hed
@@Iamhungey not even close. They didnt get an extreme number of pitches outside the zone called for strikes.....they were just that good.
18 gold gloves. Most for any pitcher
Gregg and Zack Hample are carbon copy 😂😂
hi greenlight
Imagine top Barry Bonds vs top Maddux
Pretty sure you don’t have to imagine it as they were both peak in the early 90’s and in the NL. I don’t recognize the late stage, steroid monster that would crowd the plate with that ridiculous arm guard.
@@andrewkline5611awww you still crying? Just say congrats to your home run king. Barry Lamar Bonds
Bro looks like 3 different people
None of whom resembled an athlete.
those indians were amazing
I always know people and documentaries no nothing about base ball
.. Maddux threw 92 95 mph in his early years and prime... Maddux was a big prospect and could throw hard... when he gained more control, he evolved...... yes, Maddux pitched many games at 88mph it was when he was 38 to 42...
Is that thumbnail edited?? Idk but that doesn’t look like him
Chump change is $28 million?
Compared to $800 million yeah
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His method was not unorthodox at all. In his prime, his fastball sat between 91-93 mph so you can't say he lacked velocity. Anyhow, your description of Maddux overall is not particularly accurate.
Nice use of both pictures and video clips, which probably took forever to compile. Otherwise, pretty dumb video. Nobody thought Maddux was the premier pitcher in baseball at any time, certainly not while Pedro and Randy were in their primes. Maddux's horrendous postseason numbers didn't help. And the narration makes you sound baked.
I just gave up about 60% of the way through. The overdramatization and exaggerations have taken their toll.
believe it or not those rockies teams were nasty good. power on top of power
BS. He was given a 4 four foot wide strike zone beneath the knees.
He wasn't given it. He took it.
I personally believe location and pitch sequencing will always be more valuable than velocity
You shouldn't. Every available data shows velocity affects hitters more than anything else.
@@Neverwasneveriseffective velocity yes. Actual velocity not so much
@@LordTeaboBaggins Especially if a pitcher doesn't know how to use it unless you have a crazy stamina to throw many pitches like Nolan Ryan and that was rare.
If the Death Star Mariners only had a Bullpen. Nobody talking about Cleveland. Or after LeBronze, CLUCKEDLAND
And they didnt need Deon Sanders one bit.
Cleveland proved they will Bend Over for LeBronze and Take It!!! Then gave him and Bronny a Video Ass Kissing!! Forever CLUCKEDLAND
LeBronze our Buttholes feel Empty. Will You come back? Sincerely CLUCKEDLAND