He was, actually the other sergeant was Dogma and Jesse was probably already the Lieutenant along with Vaughn(if he was in the 501st during the battle of umbara) obviously this isn't confirmed because Jesse was officially named Lieutenant qt the end of the war and Vaughn was promoted in that moment too
@@spookymaddy2599 they really did. Most clones did. The lore of tcw was so well done, it's impossible not to empathize with and see the clone troopers as real soldiers. You get so attached and then they're gone. It was just so well done, especially for what's perceived by most of the population as a kids show.
@@nathanwilliams3877 I completely agree. The basis of clones (slaves) fighting for a cause that isn’t their own, for years under brutal conditions and being uncared for by most of the galaxy, to lay the groundwork for a tyrannical empire is the ultimate slap in the face, but most clones agreed and fully supported the empire. They saw the worst a free galaxy could offer. TWC wasn’t long at all, but every single person knew who a clone was. That’s powerful. TWC show was well done given the less than climatic ending we got. It’ll always be my favorite piece of Star Wars.
*Fun fact:* The padawan who wounded Appo in Episode III was played by George Lucas' son, Jett Lucas. Guess that clone didn't rhyme in the poetry of the plot 🤷♂️
George Lucas: Hey son you want a role in my nre movie? Jett: Yes dad! Will I get to be a jedi? George Lucas: Well... yes. And then a clone will kill you lol
"I was rather fond of Commander Appo". This is basically the Vader equivalent to a "I loved you". In the audio book you could really Vaders disappointment that his (I think) last friend from the "old days" died,
Appo could have an interesting character who could have been a great parallel to Captain Rex and their ideologies could have been brought up in the show.
Yeah, that’s why I wish they left Appo as a commander, it would have been cool to see Appo and Rex interact and develop differently as the war went on, with Rex choosing to stand with the Jedi and Appo with the Empire.
I don't know if you know the source, but Vader said after Appo was killed: "I was rather fond of Commander Appo". If I were the person who killed him, at this point I would rather shoot myself than having to witness what Vader is about to do to me.
@@godsavethequeen4675 I know, but it fits the character quite well and this youtube channel also covers a lot of legends stuff so I don't see any reason not to tell it.
“Yes, I know of them. It’s hard to be ignorant of them or their deeds. They were one of the craziest bunches of men that I’ve ever seen in blue, very aggressive shooters. Every time I have encountered them on the battlefield, the tide of battle would change in short order. They had a lot of inventive leaders back in the day and I know the imperials maintain this tradition.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, former captain and scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
@@alolanvulpixgaming7598 1. Yes 2. He hesitated himself, but his troopers did the job 3. I’m working on this since there is no lore on the 442nd Siege Battalion
@@chengzhou8711 understandable, thank you for the response. I personally have been making my own lore on the 475th Invasion Force, Lead by CT-6969 Commander Fen. (I dont think that there is a 475th, although I dont know the entire lore so take what I say with a grain of salt. :)
@@alolanvulpixgaming7598 there’s no such thing as an objective meaning to life so go forth and make them cool and have a crazy and sad story like all the other Clones
Appo was always my favourite clone in legends besides fordo... I don’t like how canon portrayed the 501st legion... they seem so much weaker compared to their legends counterpart. A show based on the 501st journal from battlefront would be badass
I get what you are saying but Canon stuff they need to be weaker because there in hibitor chip is wearing off and need plot for the bad batch to survive. Still hoping to see Rex vs Cody
@@Hardhatreptiles95 what ?definitely not. How is there no commander in the CW. In a Legion are 21 commanders and there is not even 1 clone commander and why is rex the leader when he is a captain. A Captain leads campanies not a legion. It would make more sense that rex or appo are commanders the whole cw in my opinion. And I don't understand why hardcase, Tup, fives,echo,... has ugly markings they doesn't look like 501st troopers.
@@Cengo458 commander Cody. Commander fox. Anakin was the commander of his clones. So there didn't need one. But he made Rex a commander because he wasn't going to be with him. He valued his troops. He wasn't like other jedi. Noticed how Rex called anakin commander Skywalker and his other men. And obi one was called General because he had commander Cody
Most of the Jedi High Council thought that Jedi wearing armor made them closer to warriors than peacekeepers, so they banned the Jedi from wearing armor. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Plo Koon was the only exception.
@@samdalseide5060 The Alpha Arcs he is referring to where clones bred for the leadership from the jump. the clones you listed had to prove themselves and get promoted.
Fun fact: the name Appo comes from Appa from Avatar the last Airbender, a show directed by Dave Filoni, which was his personal favorite. I mean it's hard not to love Appa man
That’s actually false, Appo has been around since ROTS, where he already had that name, years later Filoni would add the arrow due to Appo and Appa sounding similar.
Appo was pretty cool wish we saw more of him in the clone wars, mans should’ve had a little bit of fleshing out. Also he is a dope ass clone even if he was a little less friendly and less like Rex.
Appo was always someone i wanted to see in the old Star Wars minis game- I pitched stats to wotc on the forums, suggesting he give trooper followers the "jedi hunter" ability. When they released an unnamed 501st commander two years later, he gave a weak buff to damage against jedi, similar to jh but without the corresponding attack bonus. I flatter myself i may have played a small role in Appo's representation
I wouldn't exactly say that. Appo, at least in my opinion, is someone who reflects what Rex was like at the begininng of the Clone Wars: competent, loyal, great at taking initiative, but also dedicated to the Republic to a fault and disgusted at the idea of disobeying orders or going against the Republic. It was through his rather... unique experiences during the war, and his relationships with people like Anakin, Krell, Fives, and especially Ahsoka that Rex became more independent and willing to do what is right rather than do what he's told. It was partially because of this that, when Order 66 was issued, Rex managed to fight off the influence of the inhibitor chip for a few vital seconds that almost certainly saved Ahsoka. Appo was not like that. Even by the end of the war, he was still extremely loyal, extremely hesitant to disobey orders, even if they were wrong, and as this video points out, deeply resented the Jedi. Had Appo been in command on RAS Tribunal and not Rex, I'm 99% certain that when Order 66 was issued, he would've murdered Ahsoka on the spot.
I just realized that by letting Organa escape to raise Leia, who would be instrumental in ending the Empire, that kid who popped Appo, actually died saving the Galaxy.
Excellent backstory. I do appreciate a deep look into the personal life of a hero turned villian back to hero again -- it's not a story celebrated much these days.
@@Cengo458 Oddball only has "We're on your tail, General Kenobi." Thire only has the line he says in the senate room to Palatine, I can't remember exactly what it was. One of the clones says something when they find Vader's body, but according to the novelization it's wasn't Thire himself. Green I forgot about, honestly.
8:48-9:00: Actually that is false they didn't kill all the Jedi, in fact, they didn't even get half of them. Eight Jedi were present on Kashyyyk, and they only killed three Roan Shryne , Siadem Forte, and Iwo Kulka. The other five escaped alongside some Wookies and other allies before the planet was conquered.
Because the position of commander was filled by Tano, since they thought it would be a good idea that a padawan with no military training outrank someone who's trained their whole life, was only after she left the jedi order that the commander role was vacant
I think the only reason Rex wasn’t a Major or Battalion Commander is because Anakin didn’t care about rank. Afterall, he chose a Captain as his liaison over any of the commanders in the first place. Why bother with promotions when it won’t change any of the tactics or even pay since the clones are property
Jedi not wearing any armor, let alone personal shields. Yeah, I share that nitpick with Appo. 7:02: Would love to see you explore the Jedi Conclave at Kessel, Geetsly's. 7:26: And also the life and deaths of those two Jedi, especially Roan Shryne, who was friends with Anakin during the old days.
It makes me wonder how Rex and Vader would’ve gotten along, had Rex never gotten his inhibitor chip out, or would Vader have pushed Rex away given Rex’s ties to Anakin and Vaders need to remove as much of Anakin from himself as possible…
*The fact that Appo has an arrow in his helmet only brings me to think that his name and quite possibly his character, was maybe inspired by Appa in ATLA. That's just my theory though.* :P
You are correct, Dave Filoni worked on ATLA, and it was one of his favorite shows to work on. Therefore, he created Appo as a memento to his work on ATLA. That's why Appo has the arrow on his helmet, and the similarity of his name to Appa.
@@The_uglybastard Yeah I know, he wasn’t made by Filoni but he didn’t have the arrow on his helmet in ROTS so Filoni basically canonized him into the Clone Wars from Legends/Comics
It’s funny how the clones thought Vader related more after order 66 but in all honesty besides appo Vader definitely didn’t care as much as anakin did for the 501st
Well it’s implied that once Anakin split the 501st in season 7, someone had to be commander for the division that went to Coruscant with Anakin-presumably Appo. I agree with you tho man required more screen time he’s basically an Easter egg
@@carlosminetti3685 no a legion has 20 commanders and 1 Senior commander. In the cw was no clone commander. Ahsoka doesn't count. So he is right Appo should be the commander since the whole time
@@Cengo458 I never said there was 20 commanders. But based on purely the cw, Ahsoka fills the commander rank of the 501st legion instead of a clone. Appo is also a sergeant by Umbara, so he wouldn’t have been a commander the entire time. I’m saying that it’s is likely (but not confirmed in any sources) that since Anakin divides the legion into 2-the 332nd battalion that goes to Mandalore led by Rex and Ahsoka and the remainder of the legion that accompanies him to coruscant-it is likely Anakin promoted a clone to be his number 2 for that battle since he doesn’t have Rex, which would have probably been Appo. Lmk if that makes sense.
@@carlosminetti3685 and it makes no sense Appo got promoted to a senior commander they leading a whole legion not for the division on coruscant and there was no Senior commander before. There should be a senior commander even bevore cuz a legion led by him and they are always clones. And padawans leading regiments not legions.
well Rex could work with Wolffe and Gregor in other universe. The Bad Batch (except crosshair) with Cid. Cody, Crys and Boil with Hondo, who clone was vader's right hand?
So... Does that mean the unfortunate Jedi that did Appo in get... "Special treatment/consideration" from Vader when he got his cyborg Sith fists an crimson blade on him or did Vader just treat him like a usual Jedi not liking them as a whole anyway
Got rid of it (he appears in ROTS) most likely so that he couldn’t be singled out as a commander or any other kind of officer by the Jedi during order 66.
I have a question that I hope someone in the comments or Geetsly can answer!? Did the comic book where Palpatine has the Insane collection of Kyber crystals where he's just chilling in the power cloud!? Don't know what to call it. While Vader is being pretty much destroyed!? Then not to far in the future in the movie. Vader just picked the emperor up and threw him into the energy core!? I'm so confused!
Legends Vader is so much more awesome, and has more depth to him. 'Anakin' within Vader wasn't as deeply buried as in Canon, with all their new weird stories and Exegol and everything else being shoved in that isn't always needed or even good. Legends remains superior. The depth it gives to so many characters is just better.
Appo was created before Rex and TCW, a lot of Appo’s lore is legends now. The 501st Legion was different before TCW, like I’m pretty sure in Legends Anakin never lead the 501st until Operation Knightfall/Order 66, I could be wrong thought. In classic Battlefront II campaign the 501st are group up with other Jedi and Clones as support. Nowadays Anakin is their general but pre 2008 I don’t think the 501st had a Jedi leading them. Again I could be wrong but I’ve never seen otherwise.
Hold on so all the 50st? All 10,000 of them, knew that Vader had once been Anakin Skywalker??? Because I thought that was a closely guarded secret he wanted kept???
No, it’s not a retcon, his first appearance is in ROTS (like Rex’s first appearance being TCW even though they retconned him into return of the Jedi) Appo is older than Rex and the Clone Wars show.
1:13 We need to see some of the 501st Legion Clones as Imperial Troopers or Tie Pilots in Tales of The Empire, Obi Wan Kenobi and Andor seasons 2-3(not Andor season 3)
any one notice on 2:18 there is a clone on the very left that has phase 1 armor on? not sure if it’s phase 1 but it doesn’t have to spike on the helmet.
The 501st’s story is so heartbreaking. After the first year of the clone wars those guys would follow Jedi Generals to Hell and back. Order 66 was a literally a mind rape, forcing them to kill Jedi that many of them considered brothers through the bond of combat. It’s really tragic when you think about it. I hate storm troopers but I’ll always love the clones. They’re victims of Palpatine just like the fallen Jedi, except they had to live with that dishonor.
When I first heard of appo in tcw, I thought he, the sergeant at the time, was a part of pong krells clone unit, thinking it was merged w the 501st during operation knightfall. I knew he was the one wounded by the padawan, though before I read dark lord the rise of Darth Vader, I thought that was the last we’d ever see of appo and was pleasantly surprised to find that wasn’t the case Fun dev fact: during the creation of sergeant Appo, Dave filoni made his entire character a reference to the character “Appa” from Dave filoni’s other big project, “Avatar: The Last Airbender.”
That’s false, Filoni did not creat Appo not was he created for TCW, he has existed since Revenge of the Sith, Filoni just added the arrow since Appo and Appa sound similar.
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Geetslys” Vaders love for Appo”
Appo, head literally falls off
I like to think that the clone we play as in the 2005 Battlefront 2 was Appo
please do all comics n episode wit appo n or vader fist legend n cannon
Clones are never forgotten. They simply just blend in with their brothers.
Deep 😥
Touching, truly does describe the emotion in the clone wars most people don’t recognize.
Deep af😮💨😔
“Spartans never die, they’re just missing in action”
Best comment I've seen on RUclips in years.
I believe that Appo was a Battalion Sergeant during Umbara (aka Rex’s third in Command) much like Denal was before his death
He was, actually the other sergeant was Dogma and Jesse was probably already the Lieutenant along with Vaughn(if he was in the 501st during the battle of umbara) obviously this isn't confirmed because Jesse was officially named Lieutenant qt the end of the war and Vaughn was promoted in that moment too
RIP Denal & Vaughn
@@nathanwilliams3877 them two deserved better
@@spookymaddy2599 they really did. Most clones did. The lore of tcw was so well done, it's impossible not to empathize with and see the clone troopers as real soldiers. You get so attached and then they're gone. It was just so well done, especially for what's perceived by most of the population as a kids show.
@@nathanwilliams3877 I completely agree. The basis of clones (slaves) fighting for a cause that isn’t their own, for years under brutal conditions and being uncared for by most of the galaxy, to lay the groundwork for a tyrannical empire is the ultimate slap in the face, but most clones agreed and fully supported the empire. They saw the worst a free galaxy could offer. TWC wasn’t long at all, but every single person knew who a clone was. That’s powerful. TWC show was well done given the less than climatic ending we got. It’ll always be my favorite piece of Star Wars.
*Fun fact:* The padawan who wounded Appo in Episode III was played by George Lucas' son, Jett Lucas. Guess that clone didn't rhyme in the poetry of the plot 🤷♂️
Fun fact: guess who has some bitches
I do remember that fact.
I knew it, Appa killed Jet. It wasn’t Long Feng
George Lucas: Hey son you want a role in my nre movie?
Jett: Yes dad! Will I get to be a jedi?
George Lucas: Well... yes. And then a clone will kill you lol
@@kytexgd1463 appa ate jett?
"I was rather fond of Commander Appo".
This is basically the Vader equivalent to a "I loved you". In the audio book you could really Vaders disappointment that his (I think) last friend from the "old days" died,
Appo could have an interesting character who could have been a great parallel to Captain Rex and their ideologies could have been brought up in the show.
Yeah, that’s why I wish they left Appo as a commander, it would have been cool to see Appo and Rex interact and develop differently as the war went on, with Rex choosing to stand with the Jedi and Appo with the Empire.
@@kingcobra9726 like something from the Bad Batch?
Appo: Hey. I like your new armour.
Vader: Really?
Appo: Yeah its really cool and intimidating.
Vader: Thanks bro. I really appreciate it.
Appo: so can I get a promotion
Vader: yeah sure whatever
Appo: *dies*
Vader: NOOOOO he was the only one who liked my armor
THAT'S SO HEARTWARMING OMG-
Appo liking Vader's armor is so... wholesome. Which is weird, for the Empire
Vader needed that boost for the day
Appo, the man, the myth, the oft forgotten legend.
The absolute Alpha
I like to imagine Vaders version of mourning is like "Damn. That one actually didn't make me want to snap his neck with space magic"
Yes, like everyone's absolute favorite, Commander Fox. It's disheartening how some fans get him mixed up with Commander Thorn.
I don't know if you know the source, but Vader said after Appo was killed: "I was rather fond of Commander Appo".
If I were the person who killed him, at this point I would rather shoot myself than having to witness what Vader is about to do to me.
@@clankers8929 they what
@@Just_Lars that story is not canon
@@godsavethequeen4675 I know, but it fits the character quite well and this youtube channel also covers a lot of legends stuff so I don't see any reason not to tell it.
“Yes, I know of them. It’s hard to be ignorant of them or their deeds. They were one of the craziest bunches of men that I’ve ever seen in blue, very aggressive shooters. Every time I have encountered them on the battlefield, the tide of battle would change in short order. They had a lot of inventive leaders back in the day and I know the imperials maintain this tradition.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, former captain and scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
I’ve forgotten how much I missed reading these! I gotta start watching more Clone-related videos...
I have some questions.
1. Is this an oc? If so its a good one.
2. Did "Cheng" execute order 66?
3. Which jedi general was in charge of this unit?
@@alolanvulpixgaming7598
1. Yes
2. He hesitated himself, but his troopers did the job
3. I’m working on this since there is no lore on the 442nd Siege Battalion
@@chengzhou8711 understandable, thank you for the response. I personally have been making my own lore on the 475th Invasion Force, Lead by CT-6969 Commander Fen. (I dont think that there is a 475th, although I dont know the entire lore so take what I say with a grain of salt. :)
@@alolanvulpixgaming7598 there’s no such thing as an objective meaning to life so go forth and make them cool and have a crazy and sad story like all the other Clones
The fact Appo was killed by an exiled Jedi is a great example of how Karma works so well in this universe
I think you mean writing.
So true lol!
Seems legit
It’s like poetry it rhymes
@@DTS214 in-universe karma then, you party pooper
Appo was always my favourite clone in legends besides fordo...
I don’t like how canon portrayed the 501st legion... they seem so much weaker compared to their legends counterpart.
A show based on the 501st journal from battlefront would be badass
I get what you are saying but Canon stuff they need to be weaker because there in hibitor chip is wearing off and need plot for the bad batch to survive. Still hoping to see Rex vs Cody
And the 501st makes no sense in canon
@@Cengo458 what? Yes it does
@@Hardhatreptiles95 what ?definitely not. How is there no commander in the CW. In a Legion are 21 commanders and there is not even 1 clone commander and why is rex the leader when he is a captain. A Captain leads campanies not a legion. It would make more sense that rex or appo are commanders the whole cw in my opinion. And I don't understand why hardcase, Tup, fives,echo,... has ugly markings they doesn't look like 501st troopers.
@@Cengo458 commander Cody. Commander fox. Anakin was the commander of his clones. So there didn't need one. But he made Rex a commander because he wasn't going to be with him. He valued his troops. He wasn't like other jedi. Noticed how Rex called anakin commander Skywalker and his other men. And obi one was called General because he had commander Cody
Clone: Do the Jedi religion believe magical fabric could protect them from harm's way?
Most of the Jedi High Council thought that Jedi wearing armor made them closer to warriors than peacekeepers, so they banned the Jedi from wearing armor.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Plo Koon was the only exception.
Jedi Mormons
@@samdalseide5060 Obi Wan wore quite a lot of pieces of clone armor throughout the Clone Wars. Almost a full body suit frequently.
Kaminoans: Please buy more clones
The empire: This business venture, is no longer, profitable!
I really dislike Vice Admiral Rampart
Now now, Appo Neve threatened Organa
He just politely informed the senator that it was time to leave
That wasn’t even Appo, it was Sergeant Fox, Appo ordered him to send Bail away.
@@kingcobra9726 no appo was the one spoke with bail organa and get wounded by the padawan. And sergeant fox is the one who killed the padawan
Anakin / Vader also respected Cody, Rex, Null ARCs, and Alpha ARCs.
I don't think cody work with anakin/vader, but he did work with anakin and ahsoka in TCW season 4.
What kind of ARCs were Rex, Fives, Echo, Jesse, and so on?
@@samdalseide5060 The Alpha Arcs he is referring to where clones bred for the leadership from the jump. the clones you listed had to prove themselves and get promoted.
@@hughmann9568 make an exception. FUCK commander fox.
Fun fact: the name Appo comes from Appa from Avatar the last Airbender, a show directed by Dave Filoni, which was his personal favorite. I mean it's hard not to love Appa man
True, True.
Appa in ATLA: lovable, furry, and with a size that matches his compassionate heart
Appa in Star wars: *Order 66 intensifies*
Well, actually its just a coincidence. Appo was given the arrow on his helmet in the clone wars because of his name already being similar to Appa.
That’s actually false, Appo has been around since ROTS, where he already had that name, years later Filoni would add the arrow due to Appo and Appa sounding similar.
@@HHLucifer666 Appa was brutal in ATLA. Just look at his fight with Momo
Appo is epic, next you should take a look into Commander Bow
Appo was pretty cool wish we saw more of him in the clone wars, mans should’ve had a little bit of fleshing out. Also he is a dope ass clone even if he was a little less friendly and less like Rex.
Appo was always someone i wanted to see in the old Star Wars minis game- I pitched stats to wotc on the forums, suggesting he give trooper followers the "jedi hunter" ability. When they released an unnamed 501st commander two years later, he gave a weak buff to damage against jedi, similar to jh but without the corresponding attack bonus. I flatter myself i may have played a small role in Appo's representation
“I was rather fond of Commander Appo.”
-Darth Vader to Roan Shryne during the Subjugation of Kashyyyk
So in a sense, Appo is the literal reflection of Rex. What could Rex have become if he served the Empire.
I wouldn't exactly say that. Appo, at least in my opinion, is someone who reflects what Rex was like at the begininng of the Clone Wars: competent, loyal, great at taking initiative, but also dedicated to the Republic to a fault and disgusted at the idea of disobeying orders or going against the Republic. It was through his rather... unique experiences during the war, and his relationships with people like Anakin, Krell, Fives, and especially Ahsoka that Rex became more independent and willing to do what is right rather than do what he's told. It was partially because of this that, when Order 66 was issued, Rex managed to fight off the influence of the inhibitor chip for a few vital seconds that almost certainly saved Ahsoka.
Appo was not like that. Even by the end of the war, he was still extremely loyal, extremely hesitant to disobey orders, even if they were wrong, and as this video points out, deeply resented the Jedi. Had Appo been in command on RAS Tribunal and not Rex, I'm 99% certain that when Order 66 was issued, he would've murdered Ahsoka on the spot.
Appo has my respect along with Rex,Hardcase,Fives, Echo,Jesse and many others from the 501st
Denal
I just realized that by letting Organa escape to raise Leia, who would be instrumental in ending the Empire,
that kid who popped Appo, actually died saving the Galaxy.
Excellent backstory. I do appreciate a deep look into the personal life of a hero turned villian back to hero again -- it's not a story celebrated much these days.
Commander Appo was always my favourite Clone
Ion Squad are the bomb. I want to see them made canon. I also want to see Roan Shryne.
If I'm not mistaken, Appo is one of only two clones to have more than one line in the original movies (the other obviously being Cody).
Oddball? Thire? Gree?
@@Cengo458 Oddball only has "We're on your tail, General Kenobi."
Thire only has the line he says in the senate room to Palatine, I can't remember exactly what it was. One of the clones says something when they find Vader's body, but according to the novelization it's wasn't Thire himself.
Green I forgot about, honestly.
@@ClonedGamer001 oddbaal so sayed "copied red leader" and later "set s foiles to attack position".
And gree talked with yoda later with Palpatine
Maybe when Rex got assigned to lead the 332nd at Mandalor, that's when Appo was promoted to become the 501st commander?
8:48-9:00: Actually that is false they didn't kill all the Jedi, in fact, they didn't even get half of them. Eight Jedi were present on Kashyyyk, and they only killed three Roan Shryne
, Siadem Forte, and Iwo Kulka. The other five escaped alongside some Wookies and other allies before the planet was conquered.
I'm surprised Appo wasn't explored more in the Clone Wars
Clones are my favourite part of star wars
I’d love another video on Dooku. He’s an interesting underrated character
What never made sense is why Rex wasn’t promoted to commander long before season 5
Because the position of commander was filled by Tano, since they thought it would be a good idea that a padawan with no military training outrank someone who's trained their whole life, was only after she left the jedi order that the commander role was vacant
Both tano and red were trained their whole life to fight but rex was like nine at the time
I think the only reason Rex wasn’t a Major or Battalion Commander is because Anakin didn’t care about rank. Afterall, he chose a Captain as his liaison over any of the commanders in the first place. Why bother with promotions when it won’t change any of the tactics or even pay since the clones are property
what might be cool is a series of videos on the rule of 2 era sith. Sure most will be short aside from Bane Plagus Sidious and Vader
Jedi not wearing any armor, let alone personal shields. Yeah, I share that nitpick with Appo.
7:02: Would love to see you explore the Jedi Conclave at Kessel, Geetsly's.
7:26: And also the life and deaths of those two Jedi, especially Roan Shryne, who was friends with Anakin during the old days.
Armour is for those who do not trust the Force. Trust in the force, and you will have no need for armour - much less weapons.
It makes me wonder how Rex and Vader would’ve gotten along, had Rex never gotten his inhibitor chip out, or would Vader have pushed Rex away given Rex’s ties to Anakin and Vaders need to remove as much of Anakin from himself as possible…
Video is about Appo but uses pictures of Vill and Bow multiple times
*The fact that Appo has an arrow in his helmet only brings me to think that his name and quite possibly his character, was maybe inspired by Appa in ATLA. That's just my theory though.* :P
You are correct, Dave Filoni worked on ATLA, and it was one of his favorite shows to work on. Therefore, he created Appo as a memento to his work on ATLA. That's why Appo has the arrow on his helmet, and the similarity of his name to Appa.
@@alanleon7552 appo wasnt made by filoni tho
@@The_uglybastard Yeah I know, he wasn’t made by Filoni but he didn’t have the arrow on his helmet in ROTS so Filoni basically canonized him into the Clone Wars from Legends/Comics
Clones rule
Pretty sure the clone wars just confirmed that he only bevame promoted because anakin gave everyone else to ahsoka
Geetsly video: Commander Appo
Geetsly thumbnail: Commander Vill
Happy New Year!
It’s funny how the clones thought Vader related more after order 66 but in all honesty besides appo Vader definitely didn’t care as much as anakin did for the 501st
So the 501st did infact know that Vader was really Anikin?
If Pong Krell says your name instead of birth number then you're doing something right
Appo got done dirty in TCW they should have left him as the senior commander of the 501st and given him more screen time.
Well it’s implied that once Anakin split the 501st in season 7, someone had to be commander for the division that went to Coruscant with Anakin-presumably Appo. I agree with you tho man required more screen time he’s basically an Easter egg
@@carlosminetti3685 no a legion has 20 commanders and 1 Senior commander. In the cw was no clone commander. Ahsoka doesn't count. So he is right Appo should be the commander since the whole time
@@Cengo458 I never said there was 20 commanders. But based on purely the cw, Ahsoka fills the commander rank of the 501st legion instead of a clone. Appo is also a sergeant by Umbara, so he wouldn’t have been a commander the entire time. I’m saying that it’s is likely (but not confirmed in any sources) that since Anakin divides the legion into 2-the 332nd battalion that goes to Mandalore led by Rex and Ahsoka and the remainder of the legion that accompanies him to coruscant-it is likely Anakin promoted a clone to be his number 2 for that battle since he doesn’t have Rex, which would have probably been Appo. Lmk if that makes sense.
@@carlosminetti3685 ahsoka is not the senior commander of the 501st
@@carlosminetti3685 and it makes no sense
Appo got promoted to a senior commander they leading a whole legion not for the division on coruscant and there was no Senior commander before. There should be a senior commander even bevore cuz a legion led by him and they are always clones. And padawans leading regiments not legions.
well Rex could work with Wolffe and Gregor in other universe. The Bad Batch (except crosshair) with Cid. Cody, Crys and Boil with Hondo, who clone was vader's right hand?
Ah yes. Appo. I remember him.
So... Does that mean the unfortunate Jedi that did Appo in get... "Special treatment/consideration" from Vader when he got his cyborg Sith fists an crimson blade on him or did Vader just treat him like a usual Jedi not liking them as a whole anyway
I still don't get it why in the movie Appo and Thire didn't get a distinctive look meanwhile Bacara, Neyo, Cody, Bly, and Gree did
I've never forgotten Appo.
Dark lord rise of Darth Vader is so underrated
I wonder how vader reacted to Rex's supposed death.
Love drawing these guys! so fun!🙂
I learned about him from you and now I'm writing a story about him, which is just the clone wars from his perspective.
Fun fact, the clone on the right of the thumbnail is named Vill, Appo’s replacement
Now that we know the Clones were inmediately replaced that means Appo is still alive in the new canon
Another reason why legends is superior in most aspects
@@pieterandjuanchronicles9849 bruh this is another reason of why legends has good and bad thing, they bring appo back just to kill him again
Clones in the galactic empire are epicc
I wonder what appo looks like at the end of the war. With the arrow or without? Did he get rid of it?
Got rid of it (he appears in ROTS) most likely so that he couldn’t be singled out as a commander or any other kind of officer by the Jedi during order 66.
@@kingcobra9726 I would like to think his helmet was damaged so he was wearing a spare.
Please tell alan from generation tech that he should make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
Saw the title and was like gee how'd I guess Appo
5:05 when yo u said 'reorganized into' I heard Palpatine's voice )))
Bruh, you had me laughing real bad with that twi lek date 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I kinda feel bad for appo, he was a loyal trooper to the end.
Vader was always one of the boys
I can’t believe that people could forget about Appo
Vader and Appo are wholesome
I have a question that I hope someone in the comments or Geetsly can answer!? Did the comic book where Palpatine has the Insane collection of Kyber crystals where he's just chilling in the power cloud!? Don't know what to call it. While Vader is being pretty much destroyed!? Then not to far in the future in the movie. Vader just picked the emperor up and threw him into the energy core!? I'm so confused!
This is the most wholesome thing in Star Wars (that I’m aware of, that is)
This is actually the first I'm hearing about this Clone, I had always wondered if the 501st Ever Received a Commander like the rest of the Battalions
Appo sounds like Appa and he even has an ARROW on his head!
Even the Darkside has Bros.
I kind of understand because of episode 3, but it was impractical that the jedi used less and less armor?
I think it was so that they could be more agile. Less weight helped them do acrobatics.
@@PapaJarron A good theory. I really am not that versed in the lore to refute that 😕. Thank you for an answer. 😃
I like your lore videos!
Legends Vader is so much more awesome, and has more depth to him. 'Anakin' within Vader wasn't as deeply buried as in Canon, with all their new weird stories and Exegol and everything else being shoved in that isn't always needed or even good.
Legends remains superior. The depth it gives to so many characters is just better.
How palpatine got Appo to execute order 66:
*Appo, yip yip*
The thing i dont get is how appo ranked up so fast while rex only ranked to commander because of the split
Appo was created before Rex and TCW, a lot of Appo’s lore is legends now. The 501st Legion was different before TCW, like I’m pretty sure in Legends Anakin never lead the 501st until Operation Knightfall/Order 66, I could be wrong thought. In classic Battlefront II campaign the 501st are group up with other Jedi and Clones as support. Nowadays Anakin is their general but pre 2008 I don’t think the 501st had a Jedi leading them. Again I could be wrong but I’ve never seen otherwise.
Hold on so all the 50st? All 10,000 of them, knew that Vader had once been Anakin Skywalker??? Because I thought that was a closely guarded secret he wanted kept???
Appo is my favorite clone with cody and fox following closely behind
When geetsly forgets to take their meds and starts going on about a "date" 😔
Great video mqn, thanks for posting 🙌🏼
So this guy just disappeared during the clone wars show and then they retcon it at the very end?
No, it’s not a retcon, his first appearance is in ROTS (like Rex’s first appearance being TCW even though they retconned him into return of the Jedi) Appo is older than Rex and the Clone Wars show.
Fun fact: in a DLC starkiller leads the 501st
I can see Vader going ape shit on everyone who wasn't an imperial after losing Appo
“Before my twe lik date” got me
I *love* that book!
1:13 We need to see some of the 501st Legion Clones as Imperial Troopers or Tie Pilots in Tales of The Empire, Obi Wan Kenobi and Andor seasons 2-3(not Andor season 3)
any one notice on 2:18 there is a clone on the very left that has phase 1 armor on? not sure if it’s phase 1 but it doesn’t have to spike on the helmet.
Can't believe u guys did manscape
Appo turning Organa away is pretty much just a military officer telling a politician this is a military matter, step off.
The 501st’s story is so heartbreaking. After the first year of the clone wars those guys would follow Jedi Generals to Hell and back. Order 66 was a literally a mind rape, forcing them to kill Jedi that many of them considered brothers through the bond of combat. It’s really tragic when you think about it. I hate storm troopers but I’ll always love the clones. They’re victims of Palpatine just like the fallen Jedi, except they had to live with that dishonor.
2:38 we all know what we think of ranks, yeah?
There is many officer in 501st legion :
Rex, Appo, commander Vill, commander Bow
Hey Geetsly's!
I think commander Appo is the avatar ⬇️
When I first heard of appo in tcw, I thought he, the sergeant at the time, was a part of pong krells clone unit, thinking it was merged w the 501st during operation knightfall. I knew he was the one wounded by the padawan, though before I read dark lord the rise of Darth Vader, I thought that was the last we’d ever see of appo and was pleasantly surprised to find that wasn’t the case
Fun dev fact: during the creation of sergeant Appo, Dave filoni made his entire character a reference to the character “Appa” from Dave filoni’s other big project, “Avatar: The Last Airbender.”
That’s false, Filoni did not creat Appo not was he created for TCW, he has existed since Revenge of the Sith, Filoni just added the arrow since Appo and Appa sound similar.
I've haven't truly forgotten appo.
Vader had more respect for the Senate than anyone else.