normally i would say do garrot/ambush/rupture to get a full rupture down before the stealth buff drops. then shiv THEN the first slice and dice. shiv does more if the rupture is bigger anyway.
I'm not a native English speaker but your guides are REALLY easy to understand! Thanks for talking slowly unlike other guides where they speak freaking fast and putting loud weird music on the background 😎
Great breakdown on the rotation and what to do when. But good lord thats alot of buttons to remember in a row O.o How forgiving is it if you mess up on a few here and there? This one seems quite a bit longer than Subt and Outlaw but not as quick paced maybe with less button mashing but more remember of what to do.
Btw for the rotation helper that is showing what I'm pressing I'm not actually double casting any of those abilities back to back it just show it that way the only ability you would likely ever cast back to back is mutilate.
Great guide man! Super easy to follow, glad I stumbled upon this. Do you have a link to the WA's you are using to show the DoT timers above the boss and your energy/CP display? Or is that just a setting change?
Why would you slice and dice after the garrote your assassin ability make it where you get 3 seconds to cast stealth abilities after exiting stealth. Wouldn’t you get more dps and combo points by doing Garrote Ambush twice Rupture guaranteed cast at max cp. Mutilate till 4 or more cp. Slice and dice Mutilate till 4 or more cp. Envenom Then if your proc happens you just spam free ambushes and either cast a max combo point slice and dice or envenom. I’m learning rotations myself and I know I’m not really even good at understanding everything people say in videos and on wowhead / icy veins.
Not sure if i am being dense here, but you mention Envenom falling off a couple times. Are you basing that off the pool on the ground or what? I dont see an icon listed on the unit frame of the enemy where you seem to track rupture and garrote. Just curious how you are tracking it. Great guide!
what does it mean pre cooldown and during cooldown sorry my english is so bad :/ also i wonder one more thing.Why we using garrote even on target this debuf .I know its being more damage while use with vanish but why we dont wait to finish this debuf on target
I have been wondering about the start of shadow dance / kingsbane window when you have deathmark active. Should you reapply garrote and rupture in the beginning to get the duplication?
i swear you have to be like a chameleon or something to keep track of your envenom buff while doing perfect rotation and having great pandemic on garrote rupture
heya.. im kinda amateur at wow :) whats the S1 SD SG tags on your abilities ? i kinda strugling with pressing button :D i have 2 Abilities on Mouse and one (R) rest i press with a mouse manualy or 123456..exc.. hands getting exausted after couple hours
any plans for something AoE related? more of a m+ pack to pack breakdown. where some die fast and others slow. and situations where you may end up needing dance just to spread ruptures/garrotes and not necessecarily get full value from kingsbane.
I do not use any macros besides a deathmark one where I do /Cast Deathmark /use 13 /use Fleeting Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power Theres another type of personal potion called Elemental Potion of Ultimate power so whichever you have just change in the macro.
great info man im a noob rouge so any help i can get is good lol...where do hou get that little note from to remind you, and also the attack tracker..keep up the good work :)
Quick edit in the rotation you will swap rupture and slice and dice in the "Pre Cooldown" so you can take advantage of the nightstalker snap shot.
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swap it for what?
u say u swap slice and dice and rupture in the pre cooldown but what are you swapping it with?
@@kennyooteman You are swapping slice and dice and rupture. Like as in change rupture to where SnD is and Snd to where rupture was.
normally i would say do garrot/ambush/rupture to get a full rupture down before the stealth buff drops. then shiv THEN the first slice and dice. shiv does more if the rupture is bigger anyway.
Still THE best guides out there, super easy to follow, this man is underrated AF
Only 1 tip, break your vids down on the timeline so we can see exactly where everything is.
@@richiepipes8960 Done 👍
I'm not a native English speaker but your guides are REALLY easy to understand!
Thanks for talking slowly unlike other guides
where they speak freaking fast and putting loud weird music on the background 😎
Just discovered your channel as I'm switching back to playing rogue (played rogue for the first time in 2007). Keep these videos coming! Great stuff!
Instantly Subbed. Boosted an Rouge with my War Within PO and I was confused as hell lol. This just saved my life 😂😂😂
That’s what I’m trying to do but I can’t decide this shit looks hard lmfao
Took my about 2-3 hours of watching the video to get it for myself. Damn. The explanation was on point. Thank you
kinda funny we have to take time for a cup of ‘tea’ in the midst of absolute chaos of the battle.
Thank you for such a clean breakdown of this.
Nice guide brother, keep up the good work 🫡
Love how you explain everything. Keep ‘em coming. Outlaw please!
This is very clean, easy to follow!
Thanks for explaining the post-opener rotation as well!!
im learning some rogue skills, never played! this guide rotation is solid asf! you got a new sub!
Easy to follow keep up the good work 👍
Great breakdown on the rotation and what to do when. But good lord thats alot of buttons to remember in a row O.o How forgiving is it if you mess up on a few here and there? This one seems quite a bit longer than Subt and Outlaw but not as quick paced maybe with less button mashing but more remember of what to do.
thx, nice guide
Very nice tutorial! Thank you
absolutely love your guides.
Will you do a guide like this for aoe/m+ too?
Yea! Don’t know how soon though
Thanks so much for this. Already feeling way more solid in my rogue. What add on is that showing when the bleeds need to be refreshed?
It’s weakauras set up
Btw for the rotation helper that is showing what I'm pressing I'm not actually double casting any of those abilities back to back it just show it that way the only ability you would likely ever cast back to back is mutilate.
anybody know the name of the addon that he uses to put notes on the screen? I want to have the rotation up like this until I memorize it
As promised, thanks!
Hi! just watched your guide and wanna say thanks for the guide which was easy to follow, could you maybe do an AOE one also?
Great guide man! Super easy to follow, glad I stumbled upon this. Do you have a link to the WA's you are using to show the DoT timers above the boss and your energy/CP display? Or is that just a setting change?
The add on is called plater you can customize anything there
Why would you slice and dice after the garrote your assassin ability make it where you get 3 seconds to cast stealth abilities after exiting stealth. Wouldn’t you get more dps and combo points by doing
Garrote
Ambush twice
Rupture guaranteed cast at max cp.
Mutilate till 4 or more cp.
Slice and dice
Mutilate till 4 or more cp.
Envenom
Then if your proc happens you just spam free ambushes and either cast a max combo point slice and dice or envenom.
I’m learning rotations myself and I know I’m not really even good at understanding everything people say in videos and on wowhead / icy veins.
Hello, thank you so much for this video, very concise and well explained! Can you please explain why you reapply garrote multiple times in the opener?
Thanks for watching! We do it because we are making sure we get the empowered garrote aslong as possible since shadow dance counts as "stealth"
Thanks mate❤
bro I saw your outlaw guide it was very good
also I was wondering that if u would share your weak aura? please
I feel like the hardest part is pooling, I just seem to wanna press buttons all the time and I end up without any energy 😅
great video, could you please share your WA for energy and combo points in the middle of screen?
Not sure if i am being dense here, but you mention Envenom falling off a couple times. Are you basing that off the pool on the ground or what? I dont see an icon listed on the unit frame of the enemy where you seem to track rupture and garrote. Just curious how you are tracking it. Great guide!
Envenom is a self buff. Above the enemies head is Garrote/rupture :thumbs:
@@Genmurasaki Thank you for the reply. I ended up finding it later, plan on updating my weakaura pack to put it next to where i track other stuff.
what does it mean pre cooldown and during cooldown sorry my english is so bad :/ also i wonder one more thing.Why we using garrote even on target this debuf .I know its being more damage while use with vanish but why we dont wait to finish this debuf on target
I have been wondering about the start of shadow dance / kingsbane window when you have deathmark active. Should you reapply garrote and rupture in the beginning to get the duplication?
Why is Envenom used twice all the time? How can you without generating combopoints first?
A question what macro do you use? Thank you so much!
@Genmurasaki thanks! This is the single target rotation, but how about M+? Thanks!
What is the name of the ability tracker addon you use?
Can you do one for Mythic Dungeons with AoE spec?
i swear you have to be like a chameleon or something to keep track of your envenom buff while doing perfect rotation and having great pandemic on garrote rupture
heya.. im kinda amateur at wow :) whats the S1 SD SG tags on your abilities ? i kinda strugling with pressing button :D i have 2 Abilities on Mouse and one (R) rest i press with a mouse manualy or 123456..exc.. hands getting exausted after couple hours
Man I wish these specs weren’t so complex lol would love to be better at them
Hey, are you also doing coaching on discord? :) would love to get coached by you
any plans for something AoE related? more of a m+ pack to pack breakdown. where some die fast and others slow. and situations where you may end up needing dance just to spread ruptures/garrotes and not necessecarily get full value from kingsbane.
the skills passing at the screen, what kind of magic is that ?i need it so much!
Trufigcd is the addon name!
Can you provide the ert note
Can you do AOE rotations aswell? Struggling what to do in m+
Sin is simultaneously the easiest and hardest rogue spec
God no
Can you ever play this in m+? Or just raiding? Ty
Yes Assa is one of the top DPS - per logs.
Would I be able to make this rotation a macro? Pretty new to rogue and WoW in general thanks in advance!
So why is haste over vers on assass but on sub, haste is the least important thing? How does that work
Haste good for energy gain dot dmg and sanguine blade uptime. Sub doesn’t really benefit from anything since it’s just burst so you want raw dmg
I’m still so confused about this rotation.. seems a lot?
Yea openers for classes typical have alot going on. What part is confusing you
I think thats the hardest oponer i seen ever...
Do you have different keybind for ambush? Why?
What i was use to since it wasnt always the same button
How did you able to use Ambush without Stealth?
its part of the assassination talent tree called blindside.
Do you use any macros? For example, shadow dance and kingsbane to save yourself pressing a button? Any other macros?
I do not use any macros besides a deathmark one where I do
/Cast Deathmark
/use 13
/use Fleeting Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
Theres another type of personal potion called Elemental Potion of Ultimate power so whichever you have just change in the macro.
whats AOE rotation? also is this for M+ or raid?
With deathmark you can not double the bleed from kingsbane right?
If you mean have two kingsbanes them no. But deathmark duplicates poisons onto the target
do you have a link for mrt note
Hey it looks like your mutilate changes to ambush when you have a blindside proc, could you share that macro? :)
not a macro thats just what default game does not for both assassination and outlaw
Can you do aoe rotation?
How can i macro shadowdance and kingsbane on one button?
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane
Hey wahts the Name of the Addon top say the abelety tracker top See the Icons ob the Screen
Trufigcd
can you do one for aoe now? Thats where I need the most help.
i will be working on those very very soon I was just play testing everything making sure I dont give out bad info.
used to be simple to dps in the past why so complex now?
Alot of cool downs added into the opener. Besides the opener it’s pretty much the same
great info man im a noob rouge so any help i can get is good lol...where do hou get that little note from to remind you, and also the attack tracker..keep up the good work :)
I appreciate it! The note is an addon called MRT note (method raid tools) mainly use for raid. The tracker is called trufigcd.
How did you get the rotation helper?
It’s not a rotation helper it just shows what button you are pressing, but it’s called trufigcd
Would it be ok to macro kings bane and dance together?
Yes that’s perfectly fine
awesome ty@@Genmurasaki
Still bad design imo to forge pooling when no other melee class has to wait to use a button
if only rogue had another spec that is incredibly button-mashy and fast for people who like pressing buttons constantly...
oh wait...
pooling is good
This whole phd degree rotation, takes the fun away from rogue playstyle. They really ruined it for DF with these many different spells and cd's.
so thats it??? 80k dps???
Lol no it’s a target dummy so if I vanish it resets combat in a raid encounter youll be closer or over 200k
got some other combos?