Catholic from Russia here. I think that Mike here had a good position. I wouldn't say that The Bible does not talk at all about masturbation. The sin of Onan passage technically is about that, but truth be told his sin was about breaking the marital covenant and what we understand today as masturbation. Fact is wierdly in russian language masturbation is called onanism after this particular passage. The problem is the whole masturbation without lust as a habit is still a form of self abuse and remains again a a hard to overcome habit which might become an idol as with any habit. The slander part is indeed absurd Mike's statements are over emphasized and taken out of context.
It's like saying the Bible doesn't dirrectly address shooting someone because they didn't say hi yesterday, but you know it's wrong because you're not supposed to hurt people without a good reason or to hate people over petty stuff.
It seems that Winger's argument is that the act of punching a person's face is not the sin but the underlying reason of the punching. But like the Catholic guy, some actually believe boxing as a sport is a sin. I can understand the guy's POV. However, he is incapable of grace and understanding. He prefers to score good boy points instead of actually addressing the issue.
13:45 Really dishonest and pretencious sentences. Some of you online protestants are literally obsessed over this denomination thing, huh? And despite one of the core themes throughout your video being geniuninity and opennes to other's ideas, at this point you're out right saying Catholics intellectually regressive and ignore is "our thing", based on your take away from a twitter drama...
Self abuse is sin. All sex outside of marriage is sin. Simple as.
Catholic from Russia here. I think that Mike here had a good position. I wouldn't say that The Bible does not talk at all about masturbation. The sin of Onan passage technically is about that, but truth be told his sin was about breaking the marital covenant and what we understand today as masturbation. Fact is wierdly in russian language masturbation is called onanism after this particular passage.
The problem is the whole masturbation without lust as a habit is still a form of self abuse and remains again a a hard to overcome habit which might become an idol as with any habit.
The slander part is indeed absurd Mike's statements are over emphasized and taken out of context.
So a day ending in Y.
It's like saying the Bible doesn't dirrectly address shooting someone because they didn't say hi yesterday, but you know it's wrong because you're not supposed to hurt people without a good reason or to hate people over petty stuff.
Pastor Mike had a Biblical, nuanced take.
It seems that Winger's argument is that the act of punching a person's face is not the sin but the underlying reason of the punching.
But like the Catholic guy, some actually believe boxing as a sport is a sin. I can understand the guy's POV. However, he is incapable of grace and understanding. He prefers to score good boy points instead of actually addressing the issue.
I don't think Mike said anything wrong. Complete slander.
Hi man, ik some yonger people watch your chanel can you flag vids like this as for adults? Thx (: love your content
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13:45 Really dishonest and pretencious sentences. Some of you online protestants are literally obsessed over this denomination thing, huh?
And despite one of the core themes throughout your video being geniuninity and opennes to other's ideas, at this point you're out right saying Catholics intellectually regressive and ignore is "our thing", based on your take away from a twitter drama...