NOT FUN fact, i was considering not including sakura stand's black silence cuz of the painful grind but someone (credits to dancissssss) lent me their roland so big W to them!
Ironically, we’re (The Plenilune dev team) working on a full rework for Roland, because he was made for an entirely different game we were working on and doesn’t really fit with the game
Other Roblox games with Black Silence include Midnight horrors, which had a Portland (Roland but it’s the IA dev port) boss fight, this was done for a collab with IA (Item Asylum), and the fight pretty much follows how it is in LoR, but Roland uses IA weapons instead. And if you beat it you unlock Ranga workshop in IA, which is the current only reference to Black Silence Also fun fact: IA has quite a bit of PM references in it, including stuff like EGO weapons from MoSB, Apoc bird, Silent Orchestra, and Funeral of the dead butterflies, there’s also a Red mist juggernaut in the juggernaut game mode.
in the sakura stand part you miss some of the skills R - Roar (in phase 3/4) (if be hold/double click will be wheels industry) E - Mook Workshop (in phase 3/4 have some little add dmg)
As A Library Of Ruina Player / A Former Project Moon Fan. My Honest Opinion Is That The Allusion's Roland Is Probably The Best One Out There. And Also Heaven Stand. But The Worst One Is Plenilune (cuz it didnt have Furioso) And Peroxide (the animation is not smooth)
@@JujutsuChroniclesFanclubpeople just aren’t paying attention enough to notice the difference in heads given that every other weapon has a distinct difference to it
allusions started it all, the most accurate and looks the best out of all of them sakura stand has more budget, looks really good and is fun to use aswell peroxide did decent for what it is heaven stand is like allusions but slightly downgraded plenilune was like peroxide, it did decent for what it is (but at the same time i feel like it couldve been a bit better) type soul didnt even have the rest of the weapons, they just added furioso because why the hell not
im gonna rate based on experience with the character and based on the video (with the love as a lor fan) 1 - Allusions. 10/10 no questions asked. Remade entirely lor combat system, beautiful effects. Its just perfect 2 - Heaven stand. 8/10 (based on video) using the same mechanics as roland in allusions, pages colors looks weird and the anims when you hover over a card doesnt feel lively. Though the devs tried to use the 1 sprite 9 effects like in lor which is pretty cool and new but needs more work on visual. You dont stop running even after touching an enemy which is a huuuge down. Some anims are too quick while some too slow. 3 - Peroxide. 7/10 anims too quick and not much to observe like in lor (though it would fit the game very well). Cutscene kinda goofy ass. I dont have words to describe this one. 4 - Plenilune. 3~4/10 OVERLY animated. Does not give the vibe rolands supposed to give. The attacks makes him look like a litteral grade 9 fixer not some color level guy. The most iconic attack of roland - Furioso is not ingame (or yet idk) 5 - Sakura stand. 0/10 they adding pm content so it would attract playtime from pm fans lmao. Overanimations. Furioso is INACCURATE ALL WRONG ALL WRONG ALL WRONG. Phase 3 absolute inaccurate to lor. The bossfight is longer than the black silence fight in lor. last but not least, ONLY MADE TO ATTRACT PM FANS TO SAVE THEIR DYING ASS GAME (just reminded you back)
plenilune is fine and it fits their game perfectly, if made any other way it wouldn't be even more out of place as if it isn't already (it does the least damage and takes the most skill to actually use and was also made for a different game) the one in sakura stand is alright and I like how they animate aswell since I don't really care about it being true to the game or not one in heaven stand is better than the one in allusions imo because the combat feels faster and it'd be weird if you stopped after hitting someone since the main part of it doing that is so they get confused with your starting point and can't hit you if they don't remember the one in type soul wouldn't fit the game if it wasn't like that and their game doesn't care about looks since the combat keeps players attracted anyways
Is bro really arguing that the sakura stand one is inaccurate to the lore when not EVERYTHING can be added into roblox , what's wrong the animations tho.? It's cool, and why are you angry about the boss fight I mean they legit said its the hardest boss so it's supposed to be annoying
I still haven't play allusion but look in this video* it got the smooth gameplay & it also got good UI tbh. and wth is this type soul game cutscene, I want it so bad 😨 2:44
It's a very good game but it's not that popular due to it being a slow-paced randomizer. Unfortunately it got cancelled by the developers but you can still play it but do not hope for an upcoming update.
Great now I’m gonna see this in every game cause these devs always copy each other even if it doesn’t make since in their game. Like why did type soul need to have this?
i still hate the fact they don't even make waltz in black once you reach the third phase even though is just furioso 2.0 still would be great ngl, but hey guess they have to balance the game at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *also allusions goat when pandemic was happening*
Allusions is the best, Sakura stand is arguably the worst (in terms of balancing). It’s been shown very blatant favoritism in comparison to the other specs other than Binah. Like, he gets buffed over time by dealing damage! That’s great! The red mist who is stronger than Roland canonically does not for some reason and instead relies on a limited power up and can’t even stack buffs with most of the good end game titles.
I’m Ngl red mist in game is still objectively better as its combos are hella easy to land and it’s form is easy to get a lot of Roland’s moves are blockable and in a 1v1 your never going be able to get to your last stage when using red mist I reliably get my form every fight
Best looking: Sakura stand Most accurate: Heaven stand Wtf am I lookin at: peroxide What is a Plenilune: Plenilune The og: Allusions Type soul: Type soul
not exactly the same because the passives on the cards aren't the same and it also can't dash like on allusions soo just for that, Heaven Stand is soo ass😭.
i dont think it's really dead, in discord, when setro announced he came back, the general became 100x active compared to what it was a few weeks or days ago
Most lore Accurate Book of Black Silence:Allusion All skills work like LoR No camera movement in furioso HAS BLOCK/EVADE/COUNTER DICE Has light/cost Has stagger gage Same HP/Stagger with LoR IT DASHES No variant More emotion level gives more Max light
Sakura Stand Black Silence totally not accurate(bossfight/sound/etc.) +and most of all, furioso 1. Crystal Atelier attacks twice 2. No dagger in Ranga Workshop 3. Wheels Industry attacks too slow 4. Durandal does not attack down slash->up slash->down slash. why they make it pierce GOD DAMMIT WHY DID THEY EVEN MADE IT
Wtf i don't remember allusions screenshake being this fucking shaky and why the hell is it slow i remember it use to to be VERY fast to the point that almost everyone could react in time to dodge
Acg operation's black silence grind from what I remember was hella tedious it would've taken way too long for this vid to be released (the old game being shut down still hurts.)
@@huyrb1729 Yes, Allusion was the very first mode where Roland was added and everyone makes an example of it, but I like the version from Heaven Stand more for various reasons like visuals, convenience and I don’t care who stole the main thing from whom, the gameplay.
Let’s be honest (my opinion) Heaven stand has the worst Roland and sakura stand has the best (I still prefer allusions Roland) Also you missed a lot of stuff on the Sakura stand Roland being phases and the changes that come with it but we will let it slide
Sakura stand is easily the worst bro, they got so much in furioso wrong and heaven stand isnt the worst just bc it actually mimicks the library of ruina animation style pretty accurately
@@Eduardo-wx2qvI think the animator for sakura stand admitted that they never played or know ruina once. So that's why they messed up furioso combo order lol.
@@Eduardo-wx2qvI Just find their animation a bit too well bad. I mean there’s like 2-3 frames for every move. Yea it’s somewhat similar in library of runia but it works there. This is Roblox a completely different game! It just doesn’t fit well
NOT FUN fact, i was considering not including sakura stand's black silence cuz of the painful grind but someone (credits to dancissssss) lent me their roland so big W to them!
lazy maybe these video types arent for the comfortable
@@peteryan3828not lazy it’s too Grindy and overall bad game design
G2GO also has roland but its not grindy
@@Nonameornamelessyeah, can't believe that one wasn't included 😭
Crazy how Allusions was the first rblx game to add Roland and it's still the best rendition of Roland on the platform no contest.
Allusions is a very good game sadly it not that populor
it WAS popular but the devs discontinued the game like last year or the start of 2024@@notori-di5et
@@Winnerlol why?
@@notori-di5etmessy code and they just simply wanted to move on
@@conarant6430and also that they got bored of working on a slow paced randomiser
smoothest is sakura stand, but allusions is still the most fun and accurate to this date
Ironically, we’re (The Plenilune dev team) working on a full rework for Roland, because he was made for an entirely different game we were working on and doesn’t really fit with the game
Plenilune Roland is actually one of my favorite Rolands just because the m1s cycling through the weapons was a nice touch
@@probablypikit HOORAY!
Other Roblox games with Black Silence include Midnight horrors, which had a Portland (Roland but it’s the IA dev port) boss fight, this was done for a collab with IA (Item Asylum), and the fight pretty much follows how it is in LoR, but Roland uses IA weapons instead. And if you beat it you unlock Ranga workshop in IA, which is the current only reference to Black Silence
Also fun fact: IA has quite a bit of PM references in it, including stuff like EGO weapons from MoSB, Apoc bird, Silent Orchestra, and Funeral of the dead butterflies, there’s also a Red mist juggernaut in the juggernaut game mode.
Heaven Stand got put on by Allusions so hard holy shit
Hell naw the moment you put on peroxide I got PTSD from that god awful twin soul bossfight.
Oh god... that 4 hours and another 3 mastering that shit. Hurts to be a roland fan
in the sakura stand part you miss some of the skills
R - Roar (in phase 3/4) (if be hold/double click will be wheels industry)
E - Mook Workshop (in phase 3/4 have some little add dmg)
nah you missing some too E does not just add dmg it makes the move diff wheels also gets changed G too
G too
allusions mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
peakkkk
absolutely peak but saddened by its cancellation
There’s a game called G2GO that has a really well made roland and a mode based on his final phase (also has gebura and claw)
As A Library Of Ruina Player / A Former Project Moon Fan. My Honest Opinion Is That The Allusion's Roland Is Probably The Best One Out There. And Also Heaven Stand. But The Worst One Is Plenilune (cuz it didnt have Furioso) And Peroxide (the animation is not smooth)
At first i doubted your project moon fan status. Then i saw 0:22 and now i know your indeed one
limbuuuusss companyyy
@@Dark-xd9sx yes but a non project moon fan would pass that off as a random joke. He actually referenced it.
Had he referenced the carnival exchange, I've been convinced
I wonder if ACG and G2GO roland Will get recognition cause they are kinda underrated
3:08 Finally someone who knows which one is old boys and which one is zelkov (I call it zelkov instead of zelkova)
The fact peaple can’t distinguish between a hammer and an axe is astonishing
@@JujutsuChroniclesFanclubpeople just aren’t paying attention enough to notice the difference in heads given that every other weapon has a distinct difference to it
mace and hammer is totally diffferent frfr
@@지나가는사람-o5i at this point nobody can tell the difference lol
it's easy to tell imo, oldboys is just one hammer and zelkova uses two weapons
oh god what was noodle thinking with the new screenshake
hi ayamanai
You can turn it off (I think)
Why does heaven stand Roland movement look like it came straight out of 2008💀 (but I love it)
they made it stay true to the animations in library of ruina
Newgen
type soul secret animation on top frfr
So like we not gonna talk about how Allusions and Heaven Stand have the exact same animations and everything besides furioso camera zoom
Heaven stand was just grade b copy from allusions literally ripped everything off from there
@@dreading_bread5062roland fans after they realize that they copied from the same game 😱😱🙀🙀
@@tinpotmstyeah fr people need to realize that’s how it works in the original game
seems like both of you don't understand that heaven stand was trying to copy how Roland worked in allusions it's not about lor itself
@@dreading_bread5062 roland fans after they realize they copied from the same game 😭😭👶👶
For me its
1:Allusion
2:Sakura Stand
3:Peroxide
4:Heaven stand
5:Plenilune
6:Type Soul
Fr
allusions started it all, the most accurate and looks the best out of all of them
sakura stand has more budget, looks really good and is fun to use aswell
peroxide did decent for what it is
heaven stand is like allusions but slightly downgraded
plenilune was like peroxide, it did decent for what it is (but at the same time i feel like it couldve been a bit better)
type soul didnt even have the rest of the weapons, they just added furioso because why the hell not
@@DerangedPacman fr
not sure if this channel knew PM at first until 0:22 👍
Bait use to be beli- IS THAT THE BLACK SILENCE⁉️
I'd say Sakura Stand is the best in terms of animation. The camera work is great, especially during Wheels. Though the most accurate is def allusions
amazing video big guy id like to see a version of this with cero metralletra thatd be cool
allusions on top
yessi
gangnam style caught me off guard
Bait used the be- holy shit is that the black silence?
Bonus points for allusions for having gone angels after killing a certain amount of players frfr
It might be just musical only now last i checked because copyright and all
im gonna rate based on experience with the character and based on the video (with the love as a lor fan)
1 - Allusions. 10/10 no questions asked. Remade entirely lor combat system, beautiful effects. Its just perfect
2 - Heaven stand. 8/10 (based on video) using the same mechanics as roland in allusions, pages colors looks weird and the anims when you hover over a card doesnt feel lively. Though the devs tried to use the 1 sprite 9 effects like in lor which is pretty cool and new but needs more work on visual. You dont stop running even after touching an enemy which is a huuuge down. Some anims are too quick while some too slow.
3 - Peroxide. 7/10 anims too quick and not much to observe like in lor (though it would fit the game very well). Cutscene kinda goofy ass. I dont have words to describe this one.
4 - Plenilune. 3~4/10 OVERLY animated. Does not give the vibe rolands supposed to give. The attacks makes him look like a litteral grade 9 fixer not some color level guy. The most iconic attack of roland - Furioso is not ingame (or yet idk)
5 - Sakura stand. 0/10 they adding pm content so it would attract playtime from pm fans lmao. Overanimations. Furioso is INACCURATE ALL WRONG ALL WRONG ALL WRONG. Phase 3 absolute inaccurate to lor. The bossfight is longer than the black silence fight in lor. last but not least, ONLY MADE TO ATTRACT PM FANS TO SAVE THEIR DYING ASS GAME (just reminded you back)
Plenilune looks fine wdym
@@TomimokaDiyuu its just a little too much animations
plenilune is fine and it fits their game perfectly, if made any other way it wouldn't be even more out of place as if it isn't already (it does the least damage and takes the most skill to actually use and was also made for a different game)
the one in sakura stand is alright and I like how they animate aswell since I don't really care about it being true to the game or not
one in heaven stand is better than the one in allusions imo because the combat feels faster and it'd be weird if you stopped after hitting someone since the main part of it doing that is so they get confused with your starting point and can't hit you if they don't remember
the one in type soul wouldn't fit the game if it wasn't like that and their game doesn't care about looks since the combat keeps players attracted anyways
Is bro really arguing that the sakura stand one is inaccurate to the lore when not EVERYTHING can be added into roblox , what's wrong the animations tho.? It's cool, and why are you angry about the boss fight I mean they legit said its the hardest boss so it's supposed to be annoying
@@flamincheetosethe game sucks in general tbh
sakura stands has the best animation honestly and hes so much better to fight with in it
What about G2GO?
I still haven't play allusion but look in this video* it got the smooth gameplay & it also got good UI tbh.
and wth is this type soul game cutscene, I want it so bad 😨 2:44
It's a very good game but it's not that popular due to it being a slow-paced randomizer. Unfortunately it got cancelled by the developers but you can still play it but do not hope for an upcoming update.
Every i see Furioso my brain:
Look, one by one...
ALLUSIONS
Rahhhh
i love library of ruina
same
Allusions.
Peak.
U forgot the Industry wheels awk , the Crystal atielier: conflic and the scream in Sakura stands
I know it’s not the most accurate but ima be fr Sakura stand looks the coolest in my opinion it’s furioso is sick
Midnight horror has the best black silence, change my mind
Great now I’m gonna see this in every game cause these devs always copy each other even if it doesn’t make since in their game. Like why did type soul need to have this?
Did he lost 1 or 2 skill Roland in sakura stand right?
i still hate the fact they don't even make waltz in black once you reach the third phase even though is just furioso 2.0 still would be great ngl, but hey guess they have to balance the game at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*also allusions goat when pandemic was happening*
Did you forget roland in G2GO?
first time hearing about it, i only included the ones that I currently know
heaven stand is the best hard grinding game bc of hakari and Roland
You forget 1 game unleashed showdown
I don't know why but I feel like Roland or the black silence in heaven stand is better because I think their jerky movements are cool
i think the same too
@@CowardCatPlayz Yea Right? It's better than smooth animation or cutscene
The style is definitely interesting, but I prefer Allusions' version.
Song name PLEASE (the one in the intro)
kether battle
@@CowardCatPlayz thanks
I have some bias cuz I play sakura stand but I think it's the best version
Allusions is the best, Sakura stand is arguably the worst (in terms of balancing). It’s been shown very blatant favoritism in comparison to the other specs other than Binah. Like, he gets buffed over time by dealing damage! That’s great! The red mist who is stronger than Roland canonically does not for some reason and instead relies on a limited power up and can’t even stack buffs with most of the good end game titles.
I’m Ngl red mist in game is still objectively better as its combos are hella easy to land and it’s form is easy to get a lot of Roland’s moves are blockable and in a 1v1 your never going be able to get to your last stage when using red mist I reliably get my form every fight
That’s not type soul it’s peroxide
oof i forgot to include peroxide in the timestamps, thanks for reminding me
@@CowardCatPlayz No problem
You must gangnam like i have.
Heaven stand stole system and gangnam style of roland from survive from roland
Sakura stand out do every other Roland lmao 😂
You missed like 25% of sakura stand's roland 😭
wheres g2go..
Bro forgot allusions has phases too
idk why people Sakura Stand's Furioso that shit is NOT accurate at all 😭
the last Durandal hit is a slash not a pierce
It looks cool
Bro it doesn’t have to be accurate all the way, the finale pierce looks better as a finisher, then just a slash.
Many people dont agree with the pierce one tbh. I saw alot of people say the Slash is just far more better because its Canon
You guys are in for the "cool" cutscenes im in for the accuracy and fluidity, were not the same
@@SaltTheKosherin Fair enough, I can't argue with that. We're both looking for two different things here.
While I am glad the PM is being supported in some way I think slapping black silence in some of these games is just degradation. Like its just visual
Plz compare coyote starrk/Los Lobos in different roblox games
why your skin kinda look like- HOLY CRAP IS THAT THE BLACK SILENCE?
Where arknights//acg operations there is also a black silence
only heard about it when this video got uploaded
I have a question for you what do kind of editing app or website do you use? id like to improve my editing skills
3:08 isnt that zelkova?
it's old boys. the description of peroxide is inaccurate
hammer.
I love Plenilune
I see everybody with a Roland cosplay on roblox just because of type soul
You sweet summer child
..huh
@@no_one234 I’m not even being an npc It’s only after the type soul update that I see Roland cosplayers, never saw a single one until then
@@Hunt9916 there was a lot before "mid soul" update. You just need to play good games to see em
@@zigmanix3861 and there was like 10x more after
Wake up the sleeper agents guys.
Heaven stand legit stole from ALLUSIONS
Where is AUO's 😢
Doesn't even have Furioso yet 💀
real
Pnelinune Is Nominated here, should've putted my goat AUO too 🗣️
Pmoon, rise!
Using card as a fighting mechanic in a quick combat game is not really great nfl
Roland in Sakura sill have 1 more skill but is ok
Today's wandering trader was so unfair, how do you get there bruh
Best looking: Sakura stand
Most accurate: Heaven stand
Wtf am I lookin at: peroxide
What is a Plenilune: Plenilune
The og: Allusions
Type soul: Type soul
no
Most realistic is probably allusions ngl
But at the same time I feel like people ONLY know allusions for it's Roland
@@extremeburst7273 Ngl, it used to be better item asylum, plus, i think all of the bosses are really good, specially minos prime.
I put heaven stand as realistic because it’s the same low frame animation he does in the game you can rewatch if needed
Sakura stand as the best
sakura stand got the best fs
Cap
fax
They got the combo order wrong 😂
hell no
Bait used to be believable
bro fr frogor about G2GO
Song name?
check in the description, i listed all of them
YOU DIDN'T MENTIONED THE SECRED RARE FURIOSO VERRISON IN SAKURA STAND RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
bruh, heaven stand have SAME vfx and mechanics from allusions, I MEAN THEY EXACTLY SAME
not exactly the same because the passives on the cards aren't the same and it also can't dash like on allusions soo just for that, Heaven Stand is soo ass😭.
WHERES THE PIANIST
Type soul is practically dead rn. But if the update is worth its hype it might peak like the old type soul we all loved
i dont think it's really dead, in discord, when setro announced he came back, the general became 100x active compared to what it was a few weeks or days ago
Who’s we? I’ve never loved Type personally
@@DarKnight_2006 then why you counted yourself when he said "we", if you didnt like the game thats ok, others do but that depends the player
@@theintromaker4260Spit ur facts brotha
Let him cook 🔥🔥@@theintromaker4260
I am NOT watching all 10 minutes of this
sigh even more roblox pm fans adding up
lalalala
sakura stand did better
Omg is longlang
Most lore Accurate Book of Black Silence:Allusion
All skills work like LoR
No camera movement in furioso
HAS BLOCK/EVADE/COUNTER DICE
Has light/cost
Has stagger gage
Same HP/Stagger with LoR
IT DASHES
No variant
More emotion level gives more Max light
Sakura Stand Black Silence totally not accurate(bossfight/sound/etc.)
+and most of all, furioso
1. Crystal Atelier attacks twice
2. No dagger in Ranga Workshop
3. Wheels Industry attacks too slow
4. Durandal does not attack down slash->up slash->down slash. why they make it pierce
GOD DAMMIT WHY DID THEY EVEN MADE IT
Wtf i don't remember allusions screenshake being this fucking shaky and why the hell is it slow i remember it use to to be VERY fast to the point that almost everyone could react in time to dodge
Its entire animations looks like it got downgraded by some fucking dev a different one that looks janky but i still like allusions so yea
for some reason they changed the screenshake and imo it looks very shitty
you can change it back to the old version though in the settings
You can also turn it off (I think)
@@HexoC711 yeah you can turn it off on settings ingame
2:44 best wifeless man beatdown
Whiichbone is the easiest to get: perxoide 💀
Peaklune mentioned
Type soul got the best furioso.
Sakura stand furioso aint even an actual furioso wtf 😭
just the last hit is inaccurate
omg is that gone ports from the midnight asylum!1111!!!!1!!!1
LET HEAVEN STAND COOK, BRO FURIOSOS EFFECTS AND WHEEL INDUSTRY AND THE SLASH EFFECTS BUSSN
Where is ACG/Operation's black silence?!?!? 😭 😭 😭
included the ones i only know
Acg operation's black silence grind from what I remember was hella tedious it would've taken way too long for this vid to be released (the old game being shut down still hurts.)
ki
Boohoo my wife died showcase
1. Heaven Stand
2. Allusion
3. Sakura Stand
4. Peroxide
5.Plenilune
6.Type Soul
Wtf heaven stand copied everything from allusion 💀🙏🏿
@@huyrb1729 Yes, Allusion was the very first mode where Roland was added and everyone makes an example of it, but I like the version from Heaven Stand more for various reasons like visuals, convenience and I don’t care who stole the main thing from whom, the gameplay.
Roland in peroxide is Way better.
They named the skill wrong guh
Glaze 1000% 🔥🔥🔥 zip it up first before talking
It's okay to share your opinion.
as again in every game kether is for losers
Let’s be honest (my opinion)
Heaven stand has the worst Roland and sakura stand has the best (I still prefer allusions Roland)
Also you missed a lot of stuff on the Sakura stand Roland being phases and the changes that come with it but we will let it slide
Sakura stand is easily the worst bro, they got so much in furioso wrong and heaven stand isnt the worst just bc it actually mimicks the library of ruina animation style pretty accurately
Bro said let’s be honest only to lie 💀
@@Eduardo-wx2qvI think the animator for sakura stand admitted that they never played or know ruina once. So that's why they messed up furioso combo order lol.
@@seraph6975 yeah and i just find that last hit with the screen effect cringe and doesnt fit roland
@@Eduardo-wx2qvI Just find their animation a bit too well bad. I mean there’s like 2-3 frames for every move. Yea it’s somewhat similar in library of runia but it works there. This is Roblox a completely different game! It just doesn’t fit well