James Shaw: Why the Greens should consider working with National | 30 with Guyon Espiner Ep.4 | RNZ

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

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  • @firstkings99
    @firstkings99 7 месяцев назад +8

    A good interview, where you let the person speak. A massive contrast to the one with David Seymour!

  • @W_Bin
    @W_Bin 7 месяцев назад +10

    A great way to get to know what and who is going on in politics. Thanks RNZ.

    • @RobertLRob-ir8yo
      @RobertLRob-ir8yo 7 месяцев назад

      Has to be one Maori and one woman as coalition leaders? sounds like racism and a discrimination party towards non Maori men!

  • @craigperry5662
    @craigperry5662 7 месяцев назад +8

    Nice work, not hugely controversial, but informative and entertaining. I'm not a Green supporter but do support democracy and thus the Greens have both the right and a very distinct role to play, whether I like it or not.

  • @frankmacskasy881
    @frankmacskasy881 2 дня назад

    A good bloke. We need more like him in Parliament. In fact, Parliament's around the world.

  • @hwcanotabot
    @hwcanotabot 6 месяцев назад +1

    Really admire James Shaw, real loss to NZ politics but perhaps a gain for the rest of us cause he may be able to do more for the planet outside of the Parliament. Hope we hear more from him.

  • @plumbus813
    @plumbus813 7 месяцев назад +12

    Any MMP minor party must be willing to walk away from any deal, or they have zero leverage

    • @ElanPlotkin
      @ElanPlotkin 7 месяцев назад +2

      it's why Winston has so much power. he seems to be the only party leader to get the idea that you are in it for your party not a coalition

    • @plumbus813
      @plumbus813 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ElanPlotkin Exactly!

  • @annekevandenberg8165
    @annekevandenberg8165 7 месяцев назад +20

    From the river to the sea, the Greens are crazy!

  • @annahouston9528
    @annahouston9528 7 месяцев назад +6

    I agree with what was said about becoming like the USA, it seems to be a sad reality! Right or left never use to mean much, and people changed sides often. It can be good to disagree with someone, thats life!

  • @TheMarathonomahos
    @TheMarathonomahos 7 месяцев назад +4

    I never agreed with his politics, but i liked him. But the current coalition have more Maori MPs than the previous coalition, so maybe he needs to check his facts, and the interviewer should have pulled him up on it. But this is RNZ after all

    • @1112-g1x
      @1112-g1x 7 месяцев назад

      ys misinformation is a h8 crime

  • @jimnz8402
    @jimnz8402 7 месяцев назад +9

    It sounds like James Shaw got bullied out by the Greens because he's just not woke enough.

  • @kenphillips5221
    @kenphillips5221 7 месяцев назад +31

    James was the last adult in the room for the greens. They are history!.

    • @andrewwatson1690
      @andrewwatson1690 7 месяцев назад +7

      With Chloe and Mirama on top, there's no chance of getting a green/national partnership. So, no chance of fighting climate change in an economically viable way

    • @Colin_Izer1111
      @Colin_Izer1111 7 месяцев назад

      Even the greens "last adult in the room" James Shaw was caught out lying on his C.V. Claiming he had attained qualifications he indeed hadn't. Scandal surrounds Green party members like no other party.

    • @richjdnz
      @richjdnz 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@andrewwatson1690 Yes but how is that Chloe and Marama's fault? National has leaned so far into the Koo-koo-Konservative right that it is no longer the long-term consensus focused, centrist-right party it once was.

    • @KieraHafermalz-Wheeler
      @KieraHafermalz-Wheeler 7 месяцев назад

      @@richjdnz they're following the fascist trump playbook now with ACT and Winston First

    • @kimkay2196
      @kimkay2196 7 месяцев назад

      Greens are nutcases

  • @Mark-ef8mp
    @Mark-ef8mp 7 месяцев назад +22

    I like James Shaw. he was far to reasonable for these modern nutty greens. He is one of the last of the true greenies. They have become lunatics.

    • @davidmccormick3742
      @davidmccormick3742 7 месяцев назад +1

      Mark-ef8mp- James Shaw may be okay But; You’re correct in your assessment of the rank and file of the Green Party as Lunatics; A fair and honest assessment; New Zealand 🇳🇿 has a comparatively high proportion per capita of Lunatics; Hence; The Greens always do well at election time; Think about it; Regards Dave McC

  • @grimes8849
    @grimes8849 7 месяцев назад +5

    What gets me about the nostalgia warriors is the world they inherited was fought for against the nostalgia warriors of their day. Fight for a better future and stop pining for a time past.

  • @magdahoekstra1694
    @magdahoekstra1694 7 месяцев назад +9

    James Shaw would have been a great PM. Honest, decent, communicative, humble and hard working. And he has morals where he sticks to. Great example.

  • @mattieclan8957
    @mattieclan8957 7 месяцев назад +10

    Is Shaw in lala land?
    He doesn't think the country was in decline during Labour's time in govt?
    Labour left the country in dire situation and a big mess financially! he jolly well know that the new govt is in an extremely difficult position to try to clean up the mess!

    • @kimshaw-williams
      @kimshaw-williams 7 месяцев назад

      Que? What about Covid? And NZ is NOT in a big mess financial compared to other countries post Covid. WAKE UP!!!

    • @jame2433
      @jame2433 7 месяцев назад

      Such a big mess that we’re proving tax relief and 3B to landlords. Yeah really bad situation yet we can afford both of these things?

    • @frankmacskasy881
      @frankmacskasy881 2 дня назад

      And yet, Labour's policies and actions during a global pandemic possibly saved your life and those in your family and friends.
      A simple 'thank you' would be sufficient.

  • @c.moondot9204
    @c.moondot9204 7 месяцев назад +5

    I must have missed it? Did Guyon take the opportunity to question Shaw about his - let's be gentle and say 'exaggeration' of his tertiary qualifications.

    • @ruihmartins
      @ruihmartins 7 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly. It says everything about the culture of the greens.

    • @frankmacskasy881
      @frankmacskasy881 2 дня назад

      You're a conspiracist.

  • @Rodtang-x5z
    @Rodtang-x5z 7 месяцев назад +2

    Seems like all the most well versed politicians are in these threads...

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 7 месяцев назад +16

    James Shaw was completely ineffective and inconsequential when in government, so I cannot imagine he has gotten more interesting since.

    • @davehawes8177
      @davehawes8177 7 месяцев назад

      So you comment on an interview you didn't watch?
      You would be a protected species under green policy.
      The brain of a snail.

    • @jame2433
      @jame2433 7 месяцев назад

      So apparently the success he had getting the zero carbon act amendment through parliament with unanimous agreement doesn’t count

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@jame2433 It counts as inconsequential, if that makes you feel better.

  • @simplygreen5832
    @simplygreen5832 7 месяцев назад +8

    No thank you Greens, just stay right over there.

  • @jamesisakiwi
    @jamesisakiwi 7 месяцев назад +1

    James, thanks for all the hard work!

  • @lachland592
    @lachland592 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is some of the best nz journalism I’ve seen. Right up there with Jack Tame.

  • @DarrenJamesNicol
    @DarrenJamesNicol 7 месяцев назад +7

    No interest in anything that smirking socialist has to say.

  • @sandrameredith6372
    @sandrameredith6372 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent interview. I trust James can contribute to helping Greens behind the scenes based on his own experience, including bullying and mental health issues.
    He is a good speaker and strong Greenie.
    He will be missed as a very level headed person. Respect 👏👏

  • @robduthie2979
    @robduthie2979 7 месяцев назад +4

    We need Co2 to grow plants, its not the issue, and NZ contribution to climate change is so small , we are not the issue, we are only a ant fart in the schemes of things. The greens are crippling this country.

    • @Marzipan_Rocks
      @Marzipan_Rocks 7 месяцев назад +1

      There are not anywhere enough plants in the world to absorb the amount being produced. We are responsible for a little under 1% of what is being produced. There are a lot of countries in the same boat as us, if we all say we don’t make much it’s not our problem, collectively we add up to a lot. We do need to do our bit and our leadership and stance on environmental stuff gives us international kudos for trade and tourism.

    • @robduthie2979
      @robduthie2979 7 месяцев назад

      @@Marzipan_Rocks It is way less the 1%, why do hot houses need to pump in CO2 to make there plants grow, that will escape etc. But the plant grow way better with it, as the CO2 helps a lot, CO2 is not a climate warming gas, as you make out, and there are other forces out there causing warming, there arer natual earth cycles, and solar and sea cycle which all effect this, At the moment we are in 11year solar storm cycle, which will peak around 2025, watch out for this.

    • @danielwatson124
      @danielwatson124 7 месяцев назад +1

      Wait so which is it? CO2 isn't an issue? Or it is an issue but we aren't big enough to make a difference? Is it some other CO2 equivalents that you think are an issue over others, like methane, HFCs, or PFCs? Cause if its that then our intensive animal argriculture puts our emmissions up there pretty highly, massively so when we consider per capita, and if you have any understanding of civics and geopolitics, you'd know that a small nation like ours should be looking at this stuff through a per capita lens. I know that when people get called out on a dumb statment, they get self defensive. Ape brain will restart in safe mode, and block out any criticism or threat. And the chances of you actually hearing what I'm saying is pretty low because of that. But I really want to point out some flawed logic there. Your comment is just wrong, sorry man.
      We need CO2 to grow plants, yes, but we also need trace amounts of Chromium in our bodies to live, which is highly toxic when in excess. I'd highly recommend reading up on real peer reviewed studies on the climate ay, I know where you're getting your info probably makes you feel smart, and safe, but it is primary school levels of simple, and believing it is harming you.

    • @frankmacskasy881
      @frankmacskasy881 2 дня назад

      We also need water.
      But have too much of it and you have a flood and drown.
      You're welcome.

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon4643 7 месяцев назад +2

    I recall Shaw talking at Auckland Uni very early on in the 1st Labour Green NZFirst govt. He said if a person doesn't do what he or she says they will do then do not vote for them and replace them with someone who will. Shaw should have been gone by the end of the ist term. He appeased and appeased and had his legal term go outside parliament to the High Court to defang the ZCA saying it was only aspirational. I got to wondering who was really working for by the end of the 1st term. NZ needs a better system than representative democracy for the corporations, it's called deliberative democracy. The sooner the better.

    • @josiahfresnel
      @josiahfresnel 7 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely agree. Our country desperatly needs democratic reform.

  • @razorsharp8968
    @razorsharp8968 7 месяцев назад +4

    He's bowed out. He should stay out. The Greens have made themselves irrelevant and so is James.

  • @brendan8550
    @brendan8550 7 месяцев назад +6

    What a nutcase

  • @MaryAda-wj3dy
    @MaryAda-wj3dy 7 месяцев назад +11

    I dont think the nats would want the greens. Not with the third world legacy that jacinderism and greenyism left all nzers.

  • @lukeyj4843
    @lukeyj4843 7 месяцев назад +6

    30 minutes of babbling gobbledegook

  • @subramsubramaniam1327
    @subramsubramaniam1327 7 месяцев назад +9

    Thanks James for leaving Green party

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 7 месяцев назад +6

      Now if he can just make the final step and leave the public eye entirely.

  • @peterbishop1933
    @peterbishop1933 7 месяцев назад +4

    The rest of them need to go

  • @SportsRacer-du6ms
    @SportsRacer-du6ms Месяц назад

    He needs to become a Labour party member as they are also socialist and not anti men leaders

  • @cameron132
    @cameron132 7 месяцев назад +3

    One the greens best assets. Sorry to see you leave.

  • @garycody1929
    @garycody1929 7 месяцев назад +9

    Shaw not worth listening to. Ineffective and useless.

  • @Frank790205
    @Frank790205 7 месяцев назад +2

    C R I N G E 🤣

  • @ducker09
    @ducker09 7 месяцев назад +1

    once again greens pull the old mental health card . She is no more or less than a common criminal . 😮

  • @154james
    @154james 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'd vote for Greens if they committed to working with national. I guess that makes me a "tree tory" 😂

  • @speeddemon9555
    @speeddemon9555 7 месяцев назад +14

    NO NO NO !! keep the greens out of parliament !!~

    • @kimkay2196
      @kimkay2196 7 месяцев назад

      Greens are nutcases

  • @ChrisChrystall
    @ChrisChrystall 7 месяцев назад

    Guyon I think you missed a massive opportunity to ask two questions:
    1) Is there ever a time when positive discrimination has achieved its goal and can therefore be discontinued before it becomes reverse discrimination?
    2) James Shaw did you ever truly believe in a wealth tax?

    • @localmo88
      @localmo88 7 месяцев назад

      3) Are Ian Wishart's comments true regarding the legitimacy of your University qualifications

  • @feesullivan3439
    @feesullivan3439 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lies Shaw
    The new govt has more Māori cabinet members than ever before.

  • @rogerparker4468
    @rogerparker4468 7 месяцев назад

    Tree Tory..so apt

  • @jasoncollins1702
    @jasoncollins1702 7 месяцев назад

    A very confused individual who is smart enough to know it.

  • @Sharpy7562
    @Sharpy7562 7 месяцев назад

    They are priming Shaw for next mats leader been on cards a while first heard it suggested on rnz 2 yrs ago watch this space

  • @louiskelly2354
    @louiskelly2354 7 месяцев назад +1

    James Shaw - Pathological liar 😢
    You couldn’t sell it to NZ while you were a Minister..I’m not sure how you would do it in private practice…but arrogance will do that to you eventually - Just give me all ya money 😂

  • @feesullivan3439
    @feesullivan3439 7 месяцев назад

    The greens are absolutely mad.

  • @richjdnz
    @richjdnz 7 месяцев назад

    Champion. Will be sorely missed.

  • @janetamplin7318
    @janetamplin7318 7 месяцев назад

    No way... 👎

  • @TheArchie1112
    @TheArchie1112 7 месяцев назад

    Probably the best politician in the country imo, through all these years he's been consistent. We're all going to miss you, thanks James!

  • @robertscott8716
    @robertscott8716 7 месяцев назад

    Just a whole lot word salad is all i heard