Livesplaining 045: The Difference a Crucifix Makes + Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Livesplaining 045: The Difference a Crucifix Makes + Q&A
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Sr Gaudia says the back side of the Crucifix is the place waiting for us. This made a deep impression on my heart.
Thanks for the story of the crucifix passed from home to home praying for vocations. Great idea to use!
Good presentation. Thank you.
Thank you Fathers! I will pay more attention to the crucifix in my bedroom. I always say thank you/good night but I’ve been remiss in the morning 😔
Can we have the Resurrection without the Crucifixion? My siblings who left the Church to become evangelical protestants are repulsed by the Corpus. They refer to Easter as Resurrection Day and skip over Good Friday entirely. It really makes me sad. But hey, Arias left an indelible mark despite the best efforts of the Council of Nicea.
Y’all Rock!!
A Protestant friend told me one time that a plain cross with no corpus was a reminder that we should each put our own self on the cross and imitate Jesus.
How many Protestants see it that way, I have no idea.
Not sure who my favorite Dominican is after father Pine, father assumptiventure or father cruciaventure
For the person who recently married perhaps you can choose to do a devotion together.
Plain -= complain. Plane = shaving wood
11:42 now that's a crucifix 🙂. After listening to part of the show, I think I'm going to move my crucifix from the living room to my bedroom. Although I'm not going to put it over my bed, I have this fear of stuff falling on me in the night 🙂.
My parents didn't have one but my mother's parents did. They also had a large, beautiful painting of the Sacred Heart on silk. I live in Haifa Israel and I was thinking of going to the Melkite Church here because after many years away from the Catholic Church I came back but I do not like the Novus Ordo and it's all we have in the Latin rite. But I was surprised to see that the Melkites didn't use a Crucifix but only a plain cross. They also had no art at all, which I can understand from their desert tradition but the Cross was a surprise so I didn't go.
I have a small standing Crucifix next to my bed and one that sits on my computer and one in the kitchen. That's my whole little apartment. As for it being a tool of evangelization, that's a delicate subject here and has to be handled with discretion and a sensitivity to history. I have an ultra Orthodox landlady and in conversations it's obvious she loves God and wants to please him in the way she understands to do so. But she would be mortally offended if she saw a Crucifix. I do put them away if she comes over. She doesn't live near so I always know. We know from St. Paul that the Cross is an offense to those who don't believe but I don't think we should shove it into their faces. She knows I'm not Jewishly observant but we've had some good conversations about God and she's probably wondering where I am spiritually.
I had a crucifix through my childhood with a corpus that seemed to be based on a baroque model: a twisted body, in a pot metal, and almost hollow, that is, all the modeling stopped about half way to the back of the body. I was devoted to it as a child. Episcopalian, I rather hero-worshiped the priest who came to our parish just after the Second World War, when I was eight. I was an altar boy, and so devoted to my place in the liturgy that early on I staged my own processions at home, using a Japanese ceramic inkwell as my substitute chalice. I was going to be a priest, but I never did, and now my crucifix is more like a pasteboard artifact, with a printed color Cimabue corpus, late medieval and looking starved, but with limbs so extended it also appears like a Christ in triumph. And I don’t pray before it. My religion these days is a combination of aesthetics and psychology. Alas.
Maybe not Cimabue, perhaps a little earlier
Actually, the San Damiano cross, from Assisi, ca 1100
First to post, hello all!
I always enjoy your podcasts. I am an Anglican, and I do believe that the Holy Spirit will safeguard the church. However, that brings up the question of what is the church? Is it simply equal to the Roman catholic hierarchy, as so, many Catholics seem to argue for when they insist that the only true church is the Roman Catholic Church? I see much of the Roman Catholic Church heading into heresy and immoral teaching. I think it quite possible that you could end up with Francis or a subsequent pope infallibly declaring same-sex marriage, etc., as valid and caving in to the progressives. Who or where would be the true church then? You might argue that the Holy Spirit will keep this from happening, but there have been times when the church hierarchy was unfaithful. As father Bonaventure noted, much of the church followed the Arian heresy. It is not that I believe that the church is not involved in concrete congregations or organizations, but there is a mystical element in which those who acknowledge Christ as Lord are the church. The doctrine of people infallibility is one of the things that keeps me from becoming a Catholic. I think it is dangerous.
The doctrine of papal infallibility is what protected the Church and for example prevented them from falling into heresy and combatting it and rooting it out.
It protects doctrine it doesn’t make it
From my understanding the Angelican Church is pro gay marriage along with many other Protestants because they don’t protect their doctrines.
Now that’s not say there isn’t issues in the CC of course there is. The Bishops in Germany need to be removed or disciplined for example. The teaching hasn’t changed and Pope Francis has been clear on this so we shall see
Lastly it’s the Catholic Church there’s 260M or so Eastern Catholics we all are not practicing the Roman Rite