Ah, the poison is a great idea! I started trying to do a chaos build but as I was playing I decided to keep the build the most neutral possible, so I only took the first 2 chaos nodes and the rest are mana, spell damage, or energy shield for the time being. That way I'm experimenting with chaos, minions, and even elemental spells and decide later. I took Demon form in the Ascendancy, and I'm sure that it is the best you can take when you first ascend, but I'm a little worried about how well it will scale at the end game. Actually, I'm wondering if I really want the cap of 10 demon levels. I like the gameplay of changing forms and probably the true potential of the Demon Form is when you get into the big numbers. Of course, there is the life problem. That is the reason I'm focusing on the energy shield. If the Demon Form takes life based on % of the total life that means that the lower your life is, you'll get better regeneration from a flat life bonus from items.
@@wyxanlongplays215 .5% per second per demonflame. At max 10 demonflame (if you spec into it, i might not just to go crazy with the numbers, which who knows) thats 5% hp a second. You can offset that by cutting that in HALF going down the ascendancy tree with the two 25% ‘reserve’ lifepoints. So thats 2.5% a second. Then you can find ‘life regeneration’ points in your passive tree )theres more than a few. And you’ll easily cover that hp loss (theyre all based on hp % /sec).Not only that, theres also a support gem that gives you 1% hp per sec! I hope im getting it right though
Hey thank you so much for dropping by! I like that you’re experimenting with multiple things, please let me know how it goes! I agree the demon form is probably the best thing to do first and I don't think the 10 will be a good investment because that also caps your spell damage from it as well which should hopefully scale nicely, my biggest concern is the life sustain, I’m going around the tree trynna allocate life recovery and life recoup as best as I can Hopefully we can all figure this out together and see what works best
Afaik it's pretty pointless to spam ED on bosses since it's more of a dot than direct hit, fairly certain basic chaos bolt would do better, ofc that's yet another button to press and I personally don't really want more than 4 (+ dodge + movement).
Honestly you’re absolutely right and I did feel that, but it felt better with the poison, which led me to look into being able to apply multiple poisons which is what I’m probably going to experiment with bc that way spamming ED will actually increase the overall damage output, I’m also experimenting with dark effigy and I like using it as back up single target dps, the problems with effigy is that it’s damage isn’t enough to be its own primary skill and also it doesn’t survive for too long especially in boss fights, so ya anyways the build is still a work in progress but I feel like I’m starting to slowly narrow things down in the right direction Thank you so much for dropping by!
Yeah I agree, plus it drains life as well which doesn’t help, I’m working on finding a way to best optimize it and minimize the flaws as much as possible, either way thank you for dropping by!
.5% per second per demonflame. At max 10 demonflame (if you spec into it, i might not just to go crazy, which who knows) thats 5% hp a second. You can offset that by cutting that in HALF going down the ascendancy tree with the two 25% ‘reserve’ lifepoints. So thats 2.5% a second. Then you can find ‘life regeneration’ points in your passive tree )theres more than a few. And you’ll easily cover that hp loss. Not only that, theres also a support gem that gives you 1% hp per sec! You’re welcome
Nah I wouldn’t skip the build, I’m planning on finishing it and taking it to end game. Just hit mapping, currently with ed/contagion and dark effigy, doing not too bad honestly it’s pretty well, how about you how are you doing ?
Wow that’s awesome kudos to you for going ssf 👏👏 Also ain’t nothing wrong with being a summoner it’s just a different way to play, if you’re not enjoying summoner then I would try something else, if you’re not enjoying the game then I hope the future updates will make it more appealing to you, either way, good luck on your ssf I hope you get really good gear!
Hey, I found your video cause i'm running ED + Contagion too. I picked the blood mage ascendancy though because I liked the look of Grasping Wounds and the curse node. I really liked your suggestion of adding envenom + bursting plague, I would have never thought of that on my own I cant wait for a support gem to drop so I can give it a try. I was using Chain + Swift Affliction + Persistence. On Contagion I have Magnified Effect and Unleash. I think Unleash is really good for it if you have tried that one, it will cast 2 contagions at once.
Oh hey I didn’t even think to do blood mage, I was kinda laser focused on the demon form to be honest 😅 and I really wanna try and make it work I thought about adding poison to the build bc it used to work pretty well in path of exile 1 so I thought why not let’s try it and it’s going well so far. Thank you for the sharing your gem setup with me, I didn’t even think about using chain with contagion that’s so smart! Well done 👏. I’ll definitely look into the the rest of your suggestions and I hope everything goes well for us!🤞🏼 Thank you so much for dropping by!
@@kaitowolfgaming fyi, poison does not do % based damage anymore. it's just 15% damage of the base hit. so if you do 100 damage, you'll do 15 damage DoT which is ok but swift affliction is better. i want to put pierce on essence drain myself but i feel like 35% cast time is too good pass-up that i'll wait to put 3rd slot on my essence drain but at same time, it might be better to just run hex bloom which gives your essence drain contagion effect of spreading through enemies. essence drain+contagion was also my league starter. The thing with bloodmage is that blood mage makes his curses infinity duration. the thing with infernalist is that you can trade 25% of your max health for spirit and by having virtue more spirit, you can use level 2 skill to turn your curses into aura's which all stack with one another. the cost is pretty high at 60 spirit though.
@@kaitowolfgamingI went blood mage last night after sitting on the ascendency for a day. Idk if I regret or not since I rolled mage simply for demon form lol
Oh damn I didn’t know that about the point % thanks for the tip Im still experimenting myself on different combinations and seeing what feels right Hexbloom sounds really good actually if it spreads like contagion I’m still experimenting with impending doom so I’m gonna touch my curse time too much at the moment, but the infinite curse duration does sound really good as well
lol yeah that’s the ultimatum here with the witch, my thing is whatever I do I’ma try me best to make it work and move forward with that and if literally everything fails only then I’ll consider it a flop, but at the moment I don’t regret the demon form, I’m just trynna figure out how to best utilize it
Yes absolutely! I will post a full build with links and everything in the update video that I’m working on, hopefully I’ll make it to endgame soon and will be able to show a lot more, thank you so much for dropping by!
Honestly pretty good I simplified my setup so it’s just ed/contagion and dark effigy and frost wall for defense every now and then, I got turned despair into an aura and I’m working on getting armor with spirit so I can have blasphemy while in demon form. I also started running herald of plague and plague bearer which has been helping, anyways thank you for checking in!
Hey so I ascended I think around level 30 or maybe less, I feel bad I meant to record me doing the final boss of the trial but I goofed Anyways since you said you’re new, I would recommend that you get comfortable with your character in terms of positioning, attacking, and dodging, positioning is the most important thing to learn because when you’re doing your trials of sekhema you have to have decent positioning to avoid damage Afterwards I’d focus on figuring out which skill combinations work well together, this character is a witch I had the option of focusing on minions but I chose to go essence drain because I know it to worth well from poe1, but whatever your character is and whatever skill you choose to focus on make sure your building damage for it on your gear and passive tree, so like if you’re skill is a spell that does cold damage then try to get +1 level to all spell skills on your wand and try to get gear with spell damage or cold damage affixes and try to find those nodes on the skill tree and level your way towards them Lastly I’d recommend to look for gear with + to max life and boots with movement speed It shouldn’t take too much going on with your build to be able to hit your first ascendency Lemme know how things go and thank you so much for dropping by!
Oh ya I remember the wolf, ya it was annoying, I used enfeeble to reduce how much damage it did to me and I was constantly trying to move around and dodge its attacks while also hitting it with essence drain which all-in-all seemed to do the trick, i wouldn’t mind helping you with the boss fight but it’s just hard for me to coordinate playing with other people, I wish I could do more to help you, but don’t worry you got this, I wish you the best of luck, it just takes getting used it Also yeah I love diablo 4 and have been playing it since release, Poe is definitely harder lol
i have malice aura from a random sceptre i found off the ground, i have dark effigy (still experimenting with links), contragion with arcane tempo+persistence, grim feast, essence drain with envenom+bursting plague, despair with impending doom+spell cascade, bone cage with energy barrier, withering presence with vitality+clarity, profane ritual with magnified effect, and arctic armor with glaciation still a work in progress but that's what's been working for me so far Thank you for dropping by!
Hey yeah absolutely I love to show them to you, I’m on my way to work at the moment so I’ll get back to you as soon as I get home Thank you so much for dropping by !
alrighty so i have malice aura from a random sceptre i found off the ground, i have dark effigy (still experimenting with links), contragion with arcane tempo+persistence, grim feast, essence drain with envenom+bursting plague, despair with impending doom+spell cascade, bone cage with energy barrier, withering presence with vitality+clarity, profane ritual with magnified effect, and arctic armor with glaciation still a work in progress but that's what's been working for me so far
Ah, the poison is a great idea!
I started trying to do a chaos build but as I was playing I decided to keep the build the most neutral possible, so I only took the first 2 chaos nodes and the rest are mana, spell damage, or energy shield for the time being. That way I'm experimenting with chaos, minions, and even elemental spells and decide later.
I took Demon form in the Ascendancy, and I'm sure that it is the best you can take when you first ascend, but I'm a little worried about how well it will scale at the end game. Actually, I'm wondering if I really want the cap of 10 demon levels. I like the gameplay of changing forms and probably the true potential of the Demon Form is when you get into the big numbers.
Of course, there is the life problem. That is the reason I'm focusing on the energy shield. If the Demon Form takes life based on % of the total life that means that the lower your life is, you'll get better regeneration from a flat life bonus from items.
@@wyxanlongplays215 .5% per second per demonflame. At max 10 demonflame (if you spec into it, i might not just to go crazy with the numbers, which who knows) thats 5% hp a second. You can offset that by cutting that in HALF going down the ascendancy tree with the two 25% ‘reserve’ lifepoints. So thats 2.5% a second. Then you can find ‘life regeneration’ points in your passive tree )theres more than a few. And you’ll easily cover that hp loss (theyre all based on hp % /sec).Not only that, theres also a support gem that gives you 1% hp per sec! I hope im getting it right though
Hey thank you so much for dropping by!
I like that you’re experimenting with multiple things, please let me know how it goes!
I agree the demon form is probably the best thing to do first and I don't think the 10 will be a good investment because that also caps your spell damage from it as well which should hopefully scale nicely, my biggest concern is the life sustain, I’m going around the tree trynna allocate life recovery and life recoup as best as I can
Hopefully we can all figure this out together and see what works best
Yeah I think thats really smart, getting % life regen is the way to go with this issue
Thank you so much for dropping by!
Afaik it's pretty pointless to spam ED on bosses since it's more of a dot than direct hit, fairly certain basic chaos bolt would do better, ofc that's yet another button to press and I personally don't really want more than 4 (+ dodge + movement).
Honestly you’re absolutely right and I did feel that, but it felt better with the poison, which led me to look into being able to apply multiple poisons which is what I’m probably going to experiment with bc that way spamming ED will actually increase the overall damage output, I’m also experimenting with dark effigy and I like using it as back up single target dps, the problems with effigy is that it’s damage isn’t enough to be its own primary skill and also it doesn’t survive for too long especially in boss fights, so ya anyways the build is still a work in progress but I feel like I’m starting to slowly narrow things down in the right direction
Thank you so much for dropping by!
you can also just press the all gems and search for the gem you want you dont need to use other skills to get what you need/want
You’re absolutely right, thank you for dropping by!
the fact that demon form negates your weapons / focuses / shields is absolutely horrible… that’s definitely a design flaw
Yeah I agree, plus it drains life as well which doesn’t help, I’m working on finding a way to best optimize it and minimize the flaws as much as possible, either way thank you for dropping by!
.5% per second per demonflame. At max 10 demonflame (if you spec into it, i might not just to go crazy, which who knows) thats 5% hp a second. You can offset that by cutting that in HALF going down the ascendancy tree with the two 25% ‘reserve’ lifepoints. So thats 2.5% a second. Then you can find ‘life regeneration’ points in your passive tree )theres more than a few. And you’ll easily cover that hp loss. Not only that, theres also a support gem that gives you 1% hp per sec! You’re welcome
it's a bug, the devs are gonna look into it
Thank you!
Ah I had no idea, thanks for the tip and thank you for dropping by!
How did you get chaos bolt?
It’s build in to the wand I’m using, I don’t really use it though, thank you for dropping by!
Do you have updates? Or skipped the build?
Nah I wouldn’t skip the build, I’m planning on finishing it and taking it to end game. Just hit mapping, currently with ed/contagion and dark effigy, doing not too bad honestly it’s pretty well, how about you how are you doing ?
@@kaitowolfgaming I do summorer way because lack of skill. But I dont enjoy the gameplay so much.
I play SSF so it's really not easy
Wow that’s awesome kudos to you for going ssf 👏👏 Also ain’t nothing wrong with being a summoner it’s just a different way to play, if you’re not enjoying summoner then I would try something else, if you’re not enjoying the game then I hope the future updates will make it more appealing to you, either way, good luck on your ssf I hope you get really good gear!
@ Patience from years of SSF in poe1 :-)
I've read in the poe news from today that they will increase chaos dot damage in next patch
@ from official website today "Improvements to Bone Spells and Chaos Damage over Time Spells in the Occult section."
Hey, I found your video cause i'm running ED + Contagion too. I picked the blood mage ascendancy though because I liked the look of Grasping Wounds and the curse node. I really liked your suggestion of adding envenom + bursting plague, I would have never thought of that on my own I cant wait for a support gem to drop so I can give it a try. I was using Chain + Swift Affliction + Persistence. On Contagion I have Magnified Effect and Unleash. I think Unleash is really good for it if you have tried that one, it will cast 2 contagions at once.
Oh hey I didn’t even think to do blood mage, I was kinda laser focused on the demon form to be honest 😅 and I really wanna try and make it work
I thought about adding poison to the build bc it used to work pretty well in path of exile 1 so I thought why not let’s try it and it’s going well so far.
Thank you for the sharing your gem setup with me, I didn’t even think about using chain with contagion that’s so smart! Well done 👏. I’ll definitely look into the the rest of your suggestions and I hope everything goes well for us!🤞🏼
Thank you so much for dropping by!
@@kaitowolfgaming fyi, poison does not do % based damage anymore. it's just 15% damage of the base hit. so if you do 100 damage, you'll do 15 damage DoT which is ok but swift affliction is better. i want to put pierce on essence drain myself but i feel like 35% cast time is too good pass-up that i'll wait to put 3rd slot on my essence drain but at same time, it might be better to just run hex bloom which gives your essence drain contagion effect of spreading through enemies. essence drain+contagion was also my league starter.
The thing with bloodmage is that blood mage makes his curses infinity duration. the thing with infernalist is that you can trade 25% of your max health for spirit and by having virtue more spirit, you can use level 2 skill to turn your curses into aura's which all stack with one another. the cost is pretty high at 60 spirit though.
@@kaitowolfgamingI went blood mage last night after sitting on the ascendency for a day. Idk if I regret or not since I rolled mage simply for demon form lol
Oh damn I didn’t know that about the point % thanks for the tip
Im still experimenting myself on different combinations and seeing what feels right
Hexbloom sounds really good actually if it spreads like contagion
I’m still experimenting with impending doom so I’m gonna touch my curse time too much at the moment, but the infinite curse duration does sound really good as well
lol yeah that’s the ultimatum here with the witch, my thing is whatever I do I’ma try me best to make it work and move forward with that and if literally everything fails only then I’ll consider it a flop, but at the moment I don’t regret the demon form, I’m just trynna figure out how to best utilize it
make a link with this build plz!!!
can be mobalytics or maxroll, idk
thanks for the video!!
Yes absolutely! I will post a full build with links and everything in the update video that I’m working on, hopefully I’ll make it to endgame soon and will be able to show a lot more, thank you so much for dropping by!
How is your progress?
Honestly pretty good I simplified my setup so it’s just ed/contagion and dark effigy and frost wall for defense every now and then, I got turned despair into an aura and I’m working on getting armor with spirit so I can have blasphemy while in demon form. I also started running herald of plague and plague bearer which has been helping, anyways thank you for checking in!
@@kaitowolfgamingHey. Thank you. And how is your progress? Still in campagne?
Yupp
How u take ascend so low lvl? Im new to poe2
Hey so I ascended I think around level 30 or maybe less, I feel bad I meant to record me doing the final boss of the trial but I goofed
Anyways since you said you’re new, I would recommend that you get comfortable with your character in terms of positioning, attacking, and dodging, positioning is the most important thing to learn because when you’re doing your trials of sekhema you have to have decent positioning to avoid damage
Afterwards I’d focus on figuring out which skill combinations work well together, this character is a witch I had the option of focusing on minions but I chose to go essence drain because I know it to worth well from poe1, but whatever your character is and whatever skill you choose to focus on make sure your building damage for it on your gear and passive tree, so like if you’re skill is a spell that does cold damage then try to get +1 level to all spell skills on your wand and try to get gear with spell damage or cold damage affixes and try to find those nodes on the skill tree and level your way towards them
Lastly I’d recommend to look for gear with + to max life and boots with movement speed
It shouldn’t take too much going on with your build to be able to hit your first ascendency
Lemme know how things go and thank you so much for dropping by!
@kaitowolfgaming thank you so much)))
@@kaitowolfgaming i try witch too. But lil stuck at wolf second phase. Play d2 and d4 before. Poe 2 more diablo, then d4.
Oh ya I remember the wolf, ya it was annoying, I used enfeeble to reduce how much damage it did to me and I was constantly trying to move around and dodge its attacks while also hitting it with essence drain which all-in-all seemed to do the trick, i wouldn’t mind helping you with the boss fight but it’s just hard for me to coordinate playing with other people, I wish I could do more to help you, but don’t worry you got this, I wish you the best of luck, it just takes getting used it
Also yeah I love diablo 4 and have been playing it since release, Poe is definitely harder lol
Can you share your gem links pls?
i have malice aura from a random sceptre i found off the ground, i have dark effigy (still experimenting with links), contragion with arcane tempo+persistence, grim feast, essence drain with envenom+bursting plague, despair with impending doom+spell cascade, bone cage with energy barrier, withering presence with vitality+clarity, profane ritual with magnified effect, and arctic armor with glaciation
still a work in progress but that's what's been working for me so far
Thank you for dropping by!
@ Ziz made a video that the single target is not competable in end game. He used all possible notes in tree, but still a tenth of his warrior damage.
Oh wow that’s crazy, warriors are that strong huh ?
heyho i would be interested in your gems and supportgems you play with can you show them to me ?
Thanks for the video
Hey yeah absolutely I love to show them to you, I’m on my way to work at the moment so I’ll get back to you as soon as I get home
Thank you so much for dropping by !
alrighty so i have malice aura from a random sceptre i found off the ground, i have dark effigy (still experimenting with links), contragion with arcane tempo+persistence, grim feast, essence drain with envenom+bursting plague, despair with impending doom+spell cascade, bone cage with energy barrier, withering presence with vitality+clarity, profane ritual with magnified effect, and arctic armor with glaciation
still a work in progress but that's what's been working for me so far
@@kaitowolfgaming thanks 👍
No problem!
Hey guys… I have a girlfriend.
LOL 😅 it’s my excuse for not showing enough progress on my videos, sorry