BTS Festa 2018 | Communication Coach Reacts!
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More one direction
their festas are a good mix of fun and serious it would be great for you to do like a series starting from their 2014 one
I think it would be really cool to delve into the relationships and dynamics between 2 or 3 members. Bcs the dynamic between suga and jhope is so vastly different from jhopes dynamic with jk or jimin. I think it would be very interesting!
Suga’s favourite thing to talk about sometimes seems to be that he has lived with RM the longest. They have a wonderful dynamic.
I have seen him mention this at least 5 times, very likely more
Their 10th year anniversary is today/tomorrow! They started living together Nov 13 2011
@@rozinamouz9286 what are the odds lol
cute. this comment had been a year ago, and now we have suchwita, and the thing that still hasn't changed today is yoongi talking how long he lived with Namjoon.
"V is really unfiltered... Kinda like Suga, in a sense" YES. They're both very authentic and true to their emotions, the key difference between them, in my opinion, is that Suga has this more impersonal approach to things that gives him a tsundere-like vibe, while V is playful and has this vibe of naiveté around him.
Thanks very much 💞🥰
Daegu boys have no filter hehehe
Yes!!!!....Thank yoj
Jimin has said that V is the most human like in the group. Mean he act like what he feel as normal person. Other members may very cautious due to their status, image, job. You can easily tell when V likes or dislike something from his face.
This
There was a documentary when Suga said that it was hard for him at first to live with complete strangers considering he is an introvert. Now, he's used to living with them and he's actually comfortable with them.
Yeah he said now they are like his family
I rmb vaguely that one of the members said ‘we were all so different ppl and I didn’t believe we would actually get along’ was is suga?
@@GummyCalico i think this was said by few other members, tae, namjoon and someone else
Where can I watch the video related to this
The way I relate to this man in a molecular level
- When Hobi is drunk he doesn't speak as much as when he's not drunk. But, hey, he's called the "Second Leader" of BTS
- Jungkook doesn't talk as much cuz he let his hyungs talk first while he observes & listen to them.
- Suga likes to analyze, listen & observe first before talking & sharing his beliefs. Anyways, I just remember when Suga keeps telling Jimin "I love you" in the past too & the most memorable one was when Jimin was sad & Suga said "Jimin, you know how much I love you, right?" It melts my heart.
- V sometimes got misunderstood cuz of his expression (blank) but he observes everyone & communicates well.
- RM really encourages the members always & that's what I love about him. He's one of my bias too.
- Jin's humor is on another level. He keeps joking so that the atmosphere is light & not to pressure. His jokes bring brightness to the group.
- Jimin is that person who will listen to you, cheer you up & always at your back. He has a high IQ & EQ too!
This comment is perfect ✨
i think due to his sligh stutter he does not like to speak a lot..
@@sam693691 what? No. He does speak alot but as he mentioned he is introvert so it's fine if he doesn't really speak much. But in recent years he has showed his emotional maturity alot and has opened up.
Rm is the one with a high IQ. Jk and jimin have the same iq
RM has 148 IQ and JK & JM have same IQ, 128
As you were speaking about masculinity I had a thought. I always had an issue with men’s behavior due to many traumatic experiences. Men I met in my life were at surface level and did everything to look masculine in the end. To me they were weak for pushing themselves and their male friends into this corner and dismissing any “real” behavior as “not manly”. Funnily enough, these seven men and are the most masculine men I’ve ever seen because of their vulnerability and the aspects they DO show that some men still don’t dare to show. It’s funny to me how diving into another culture (Korean in my case) gave me a whole new view on the people around me and on myself. I learned the most in my life from my mother and BTS, that is no exaggeration. They’ve been in my life for seven years without missing a day.
I learned so much from them. I wish there's men like them around me. Maybe if there was, i would not be afraid to talk to them.
Same..i hv learned so much from BTS
We should really be undefining and de-emphasizing this thing we call masculinity. We’re all human beings at the end
I didn't think that I would love to see men like Korean men who doesn't care about "stereotype" we know in the western culture
Well said. BTS certainly gives you perspective on your own cultural social norms. I had no idea that there was a society where men could be so demonstrative to one another. And yes, thier example of vulnerable strength, responsibility, and love is true manliness. I hope there are young men and men who are inspired to be more true to themselves through watching BTS.
About Jungkook. This was in 2018, the year they were seriously contemplating on disbanding (Jin revealed this in MAMA 2018). Jin said in BTS Festa 2020 (40:45) that he felt sorry for Jungkook looking back around this year when they were having tough time and Jungkook just "shut down and didn't talk to us". The boy was clearly going through storms, hardships and who knows what that are associated with growing up in the spotlight and in the biggest boy band at that. He had some serious maturing to go through. And as being an introvert himself, he preferred to keep everything to himself. I think this explains how he seemed not as engaged as everyone else. And fast forward to 2019, you could see a big difference in Jungkook's demeanour and aura in BTS Festa 2019, he was much more relaxed, open, and more engaging.
And let me add.. Jungkook doesn't talk much, he prefers to listen to his hyungs, and he is the kind of guy who shows affection through action rather than through words. I watched their latest online concert Permission to Dance and saw that when Suga, RM, and Jin each gave a speech around the later part of the concert, he put his hand on their shoulders and gently pat them as if to reassure them or support/agree to what they were saying. Also when JK speaks, he speaks with wisdom. For this Festa 2018 he said that, about happiness, "for joys and sorrows, if you're not mad or sad, you won't know when you're happy".
Yes true.
“The spokesperson of vulnerability” what a good way to describe RM!
jungkook’s international age when he started as a trainee was 13 (14 in like two months) and when he debuted he was 15 (16 in a few months)
Also Jungkook is the youngest, their baby. That’s why they’re so sweet and patient with him. 💜
yeah that's true. for example even the bickering thing between yoonmin or vmin, but you'll never see that between the other members x jungkook. ofc they tease him but it's like a different kind. it's precious really. except maybe jinkook lmaooo it's cute.
Yeah
They all have a soft spot for him and the times when JK is upset or disappointed (like losing a game) they try to comfort him and make him smile. During that one anniversary where there were talking about things members do that are irritating or hurtful, someone asked why JK only bought a birthday gift for one member and not the others. When they saw how embarrassed JK was (and apologetic), they all tried to rationalize and excuse it by saying that he was always generous with them anyways and gift giving wasn’t something that should be an obligation. They all have different ways they treat each other, but what I find the most admirable is their ability to adjust to one another’s moods. During that Run BTS with the game show host (I’m sorry I forgot his name), he mentioned that they reminded him of an old married couple, but with seven of them. J Hope agreed,
@@jamais_vu3 ooo i like jinkook moments😊
@@bunnyboopbubblesbcubed8380 yes🥺
When Jungkook says that he was 15 when they got together, he's actually speaking about Korean age. In international age he was only 13 which just blows my mind.
That’s even crazier
@@Veronika-vy5ou
Ikr?! 🤯
You’re right, Yoongi and RM have a really deep, wonderful relationship. Yoongi refers to Joon as “genlea” a lot, meaning “genuine leader” because he thinks he was like born to be a leader and really excels in that role. He also said that RM is one of his favourite people he’s ever met in his life. And Joonie once said if the world was ending, he’d spend his last day on Earth with Suga, because he feels there is still so much that they haven’t said to one another. Also out of the boys, they’ve known each other the longest and constantly talk about how they’ve lived together for a decade.
I personally think they are two different sides of the same coin. I mean they are exactly the same in the way they consider things, but also COMPLETELY different. They are very introspective and think a lot, but they express it in different ways. They may not be as physically affectionate or seem as close to each other as the other boys, but that’s because that’s not how they express their sincerity.
Yes,because they knows each other longer in time since 2010 years old than other artists of BTS
namgis friendship and dynamic is so precious
RM is just way too special. That doesnt even have nothing to with BTS and him being the Leader, but just him as Kim Namjoon. I think we all, and BTS are very Lucky that we got him in our life. Just watching him, ive realised its a endless Journey of learning new things from him. What a great leader and person!🐨💜❤
I still hope to see you react to more JESSI content!🙏
Thanks very fan for your sweet comment.
Thanks for appreciating our leader .This comment is dope 💜
@@nakatosophia1478 you are welcome Sophia
Wow. That really touched my heart. So very true. Your words are gold🌟. I wish RM could see them.
not the jhope impersonator in the replies 😭😭
Some things about RM and Yoongi's (Suga) relationship because it's a good story: RM was the first member of BTS and Yoongi the second, so they have lived together the longest, which is something that Yoongi brings up whenever he talks about RM. Yoongi knew of RM before he moved up to Seoul and he said came with the attitude of 'I can beat him'. They seem to have had a bit of a difficult relationship at first as they were very young (16 and 17 when they first started living together I believe), stressed and under pressure, and had different opinions about music. There are stories from the boys about them fighting and throwing things at each other as trainees. However over time they developed an amazing relationship - as you said they have different skills that really complement each other, and they are both deep thinkers and great speakers. To see them handle important interviews and difficult situations together, they really are a dynamic duo, and they are the backbone of BTS musically. Yoongi really appreciates RM's role as leader and has said he relies on RM a lot, and said RM is like a house that protects BTS, which kills me. When they played a word association game and they had to say something they associate with the word 'respect' - they both said each other's name. Respect is also the name of a song they made together. We don't get a lot of their relationship 'on camera' as they seem to be a bit awkward about that but every now and then you get a nugget from them and you can see how much they have each other's backs.
Other relationships mentioned: Yes RM and Jimin have a great relationship, they're able to talk for hours. I think RM once said Jimin is the member that is the most similar to him.
Yoongi's first impressions: the one I can remember is he said he didn't understand Tae at first and thought Tae was putting on an act. Tae is quite a unique person and it was more apparent when he was younger. But Yoongi soon realised that is just how Tae is. Like you said, they are both pretty straight forward, they just have very different thought processes and personalities. Another one is J-hope - Yoongi immediately took a shine to him and looked out for him since day 1, again since they were 16/17. They have a very heartwarming 'opposites attract' relationship.
Great comment
BRAAVO!! great comment!! What stayed with me the most from the interviews was what RM once said, Yoongi looks like a grandfather but he is a little kid and Jimin looks like a kid but he is a very mature boy like a grandfather.
Thank you both for leaving comments! It was nice to spill out my feelings about Yoongi and Joon's growth!
It's just that I feel that RM and Yoongi are not big on showing physical affection like Tae or Jimin, so people can think that they're not close, but they're one of the closest duos, they just have a different dynamic
Wow such great points... what uou wrote about yoongi and joon's bond makes me want to cry a little :')
Jungkook being "disengaged" as you mentioned might have something to do with him going through a tough time around this era when bts were contemplating disbanding. Jin mentioned that jungkook took it too hard and shut himself off from everyone for a while during this time.
I didn’t know this…really…do you know when he said this?
@@amberpearce710 It's in BTS Festa 2020 when they were asked what they felt sorry for on a member. Jin said he felt sorry for JK around this year when they were having a tough time, he said JK "shut down and didn't talk to us".
@@chenny7682 okay thank you.
@@chenny7682 thanks
yes this was the time Jk sang decalomania and jimin did a surprise vlive at midnight drunk and sounded very upset! if you see their interviews, vlives around this time there was some uneasiness..glad that they overcame n became stronger than before 💜
Jungkook has a very diverse personality, the way he acts really depends on his surroundings and the situation. In this video he's more quiet, as the others are speaking a lot and he never speaks over them as the youngest and most shy member, he likes to listen. Even if he seemed disengaged, the more you get to know him you will realise that he is always listening. He fidgets a lot, and zones out a lot, but it doesn't mean he isn't interested in the conversation, he just tends to struggle with keeping in conversations like this.
Also 2018 was a really hard time for all of them, and they said that Jungkook distanced himself (to protect himself from making the others sad) so that could be a factor also. But if you see him in 2020-2021 festas, he is very different. I think within the last 2 years especially he has started speaking a lot more and being more expressive with his personality. He is very funny, the light of the group, he's their baby and the older members all tend to treat him with a lot of care and love, he's their baby brother 😊
25:48 all of the members treat jungkook as their beloved younger brother and it always so heart warming to see jimin especially dote on him and comfort him. He’s always the first to comfort him when he’s crying, jimin is a comforter he likes to make sure his members are okay and be there for them
I think the age difference matters a lot with Jungkook. He’s 2 years younger than V and nearly 6 younger than Jin. So he’s hanging around older guys that he admires so much. I remember myself at that age, somewhat shy, especially when they asked questions. In Korean culture the youngest of the family is taken care of by everyone older, you can see that here. Suga’s letters to V and Jungkook were very important because they had the hardest time of all. What was clipped out here is the other guys’ reaction and joking that Suga only sends one line texts to them. The other thing is that V expressed enormous vulnerability in sharing with the whole group that Suga said “I love you”. That showed he trusted the group and especially Suga so much. And that opened the door for Jungkook to speak up. I know you’re all about communication styles, Max, but this group is very complex in many ways.
you saying about how jimin is open with the other members made me feel really happy, because jimin wasn't like that before, he really improved so much on this point. He has a lot of deep conversations with namjoon from time to time.
So true! Young Jimin was more intense.. he softened up his persona through the years.
@@grace.aquino I think it's even more about being his most authentic self. Jimin is a deeply empathic person. The moment someone is hurt or down, he's usually the first person on the scene or is the one who doesn't leave. So he went from portraying a really hard persona to finally realising that he could be himself and be accepted.
Jimin had to fight more than them for the post in the group so i think that did it bad for him. He had a short time to try and convince everybody and try to catch up with the others that had a long time with each other and the work to. And mean time he had a lot of pressure because varios times they wanted him out of the group ( big hit)He was dedicated 100% just to his work, he was hard to himself and not open because first he didn't have profesional people to assure him ( the dance teacher was a hip hop one, he didn't have vocal lessons) and didn't even have much time to bound with the group. And it's so interesting because if you see jimin is the one that feels that has great releshionship with oll of them so he still did his best and his work in final paid him well because he had the lead and the main position
True😢
suga once said about RM."he's like a house that protect us" ."he's one of my favorite people on earth"."my forever respect" they even have a song together called respect hhh.
14:17 on one of their trips during their series bon voyage jimin and rm had some really deep heart felt talks. They feel so comfortable being open with eachother and their members. Jhope and rm have really good chemistry in that area too!
Suga hangout with JK that time and predicted what RM and Jimin were up to! 🤣
V is too sincere if he doesn't like the interview he won't answer... If he is uncomfortable you would notice. Some times if he has saw something of the interviewer that he doesn't like he won't even said yes or not. We love him that way.
true
Jungkook was actually 13 (15 according to korean age)when he left his hometown and came to Seoul alone at this young age and started as a trainee .
Since then his 6 hyungs (other /older members /big brothers) raised him up in a sense. He grew up with them .His love them very much and he even wrote songs dedicated to them to express his gratefulness towards them .
He used to be more shy back then , he grew and matured a lot recently
Jungkooks personality is so unique you can't just pick a random video and thats it this is jungkook! he is just different in expressing himself and interacting with the others he likes to listen more, I think he's more of "an action guy" and that's what I admire about him and he has a unique and different relationship with each member it's fascinating to watch. What I'm saying is to be able to really know who jungkook is you really need to watch more of him he might look like someone who's shy and disengage from his surroundings but in reality he's just a lovely ray of sunshine who brings joy and happiness to the grp and hes also a deep deep person with a lot of passion he is like the pillar of the grp
The same way Suga and Tae are really honest, so is Jungkook. His big doe eyes give him away every single time. Jungkook is also an introvert like Jin and Suga. He was likely struggling with having to have 'on' energy that day and so he let his hyungs do the talking to conserve himself. And when he did contribute he was very open and honest in the way that he is. I think they all are. It's just Jin, RM and Hobi, and to some extent Jimin, are aware of how much honesty is required and when they should hold back to protect those parts of themselves.
V was not drinking alcohol here lol He was drinking soda and juice 🥤 The members have said Suga and V always have different opinions or perspectives on almost every subject, so there can be tension between them or they may avoid each other at times... Maybe this is partially why that message meant so much to V, it was reassuring to know that "yes, I'm important to this person". Also, they were going through a very difficult situation at the time, and Suga wrote a long message, so he may have said many comforting or moving things. We will never know, it's private.
RM says his personality is surprisingly similar to Jimin, more than it may seem at first glance. Jimin seems to like being around people constantly though, while RM may need more alone time. The members usually go to Jimin when they need to confide in someone, because he's a good listener and a warm person. But they go to RM for help or advise, specially when it comes to their songwriting.
Suga is very down to earth, reflective and wise... But make no mistake, he also can be a big talker and invent stuff... They're all good at bullshiting and speaking nonesense lol maybe it's because they're creatives or maybe they just get bored sometimes, who knows. Contrary to assumptions, Suga was rather positive about being in an idol group at first, but things became hard when they debuted because of the criticism and exhausting life style. Being in a group was challenging too, because Suga is more on the extreme of intravertion, and the members were loud, energetic, playful adolescents, but they gradually learned each other's boundaries and improved their communication. So it's easier now. Plus, they also have more resources and personal space, which helps.
J Hope has a serious side too. He's very professional, disciplined, very clean, organized and earnest. A little of a caretaker too, although not necessarily as emotionally open. People say he's kind and considerate with everyone, not only people he's close to, but also with acquaintances. He gets melancholic too, sometimes. The members say he's a natural leader when it comes to teaching choreography or giving instructions for performances, but that during discussions/meetings he's quiet and voices his thoughts at the end, giving closure to whatever they were discussing. He's also someone who gives constructive criticism and a lot of feedback. While RM is more of a diplomat and a motivational leader, someone who inspires people to follow their ambitions, someone who makes people come together under one common goal.
Jungkook is an Introvert. He won't speak often but when he starts to speak it will be wise words. He always shares his emotions through music as he loves music alot. He always tries to explore new things and he admires the little things around him. He likes to listen and observe others. He is such a treasure to this world
jungkook can be pretty shy in social settings and he prefers to listen to his members rather than to actually talk- the members know this and that’s why they tend to dote on him at times. if you check festa 2019 - 2021 you’ll see a difference in his behaviour and presence compared to festa 2018, and you’ll see that he feels more relaxed and confident to engage in conversation
so about jungkook, this festa was filmed in the year that they were skeptical about what was to happen going forward and were discussing the possibility of disbanding because of the immense pressure on them. jin said that jungkook basically shut off and wouldn't tell any of his hyungs how he was feeling or talk to them, i think it was the same right here. he was going through some things and as the youngest it hit him the hardest. however the jungkook of 2021 is very different, over the last few years he has grown up so much and especially last year he has just become very confident, expressive of his feelings and emotions and just very mature. i think that since he was in the public eye from a very young age, the last couple of years as they slowed down, it finally gave him time to really think about himself, who he is... and for the first time he's starting to figure things out and be more comfortable in who he is! seeing him grow, show such healthy emotional growth inspires me so much and makes me so proud
That’s why I loved when he yelled “So what!” during the PTD online concert- loved this for him💜
each of their dynamic is unique but one thing I've observed common between them is their patient dynamic with jungkook. maybe except jinkook they're the bickering type, but for the rest of the members x jungkook, the members always indulge him hahaha. it's cute really. the members are actually really patient with him and tbh jungkook is a really emotional guy inside out and he's such a pure soul.
Jin still very patient with him too because if he wanted some peace and quiet he could easily invoke the hyung card (he literally been college student while Jungkook was elementary school kid when they both met as trainees) but instead he indulges Jungkook's play-fighting.
Jin and Jungkook's relationship is very brothers who are best friends, their bickering is the playful type, in which they both initiate bothering the other.
Jin's also said that it is because they both have the mental age of 8 years old XD
@@404gram yeah ofc.
I would say that you shouldn't think that because Jungkook is not saying anything or not looking directly at anyone that he isn't "engaged". Jungkook was a very shy kid when he started out and in some ways he still is. Looking down is a shy person's way of listening. As someone who was also very shy growing up, sometimes I found I heard more than others. Because I wasn't thinking about engaging, I concentrated more. I heard not just what was being said, but heard what was in between the lines and sometimes even what wasn't being said.
I wish people around me could understand that about me
Yes jungkook is actually the most observant. He listens more than he speaks and observes everything. He's also introverted so he internalizes a lot of his emotion and doesn't show it or talk about it much. And of course being the youngest in their culture plays a part in him giving the older members respect and letting them speak first. He is pushed front and center a lot for performances so when they aren't on stage, he likes to step back and let the others have that
Exactly! I was like that too.
this! 🗣
He’s also underratedly empathetic
is very impressive how you manage to pay attention to each member and you really comment on each every person accurately in some way
"jimin really seems to have jungkook's back" YES! this is what I love the most about jimin and jungkook's bond. the thing with jimin is that he is ultra-sensitive to ALL the members, but jungkook is one of the most introverted members, and he doesn't feel comfortable sharing his emotions with everyone, but he does with jimin. they are each other's emotional pillars in the group. you should check out the compilation of them comforting each other!
Bc jk is the youngest and was the shyest, Jimin, as a sensitive as he is, always look after him, it's cute
For Taehyung a lot of people says that he's one of the members that are hard to read and I agree with that even as me who's a fan for 8 years still finds him a mystery. He's fascinating and always makes you surprise that you can't help but to want to know more about him. There are times he's very open but most of the time he's very private. And if I remember correctly, in one of their interview (can't remember the date but it was quite an old interview) that he said off cam or in private he's pretty much a serious person.
There's a quote that I think is quite like him
"I am a very private person, yet I am an open book... If you don’t ask, I won’t tell"
I think if you want to really deeply understand the members and their philosophies, you couldcheck out some of their music. They really lay their soul bare in the songs they write
Namjoon: Reflection, Intro: Persona and his mixtapes RM and mono
Jin: Awake, Moon, Abyss
Suga: First Love, Interlude: Shadow and his mixtapes Agust D and D-2
J-Hope: Mama, Outro: Ego and his mixtape Hope World
Jimin: Lie, Promise, Filter
V: Stigma, Inner Child, Scenery
Jungkook: Begin, My Time, Still With You
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it but Suga has been studying Psychology and Philosophy. He has mentioned that one of his goals is to get certified to be a licensed Psychologist.
I've seen it said that RM is the leader but Suga is always quietly at the back supporting the group. You have the bookends. Each doing it completely different but a vital part.
I feel that Jin is the most private of all, he gives a lot but at the same time very little. He tries to bring happiness and attention to everyone with his humor but he only expresses that side of him not the sad or dark side that he himself has said he has. He does not open up emotionally very often when the conversation gets very real he diverted with humor.
Love this clip!! I noticed when Jimin was putting his hand on JK's back, J-hope was putting his hand on Jimin's back😭 A hyung always support his maknae! Also, you mentioned RM knows how to treat each member and it reminded me of one video from I guess BTS In the Soop 1, when RM wakes up members in completely different ways. One time I noticed members praise V a lot, and later I found out, V is someone who is motivated by being praised, that's why members do so.
It is just amazing to see these 7 completely different guys have such strong bond and they cannot go without one. I am so sure they will all be together until they are grandpas...
During a recent Run BTS episode, JK said; "I´m not shy anymore!" , which I found funny. He still got those introvert moments xD
well shy doesn't equal introvert he can still be introverted but more confident
V probably had the least to drink. You'll see after some time that that's how he usually is. He has a really unique person
Yes it was funny how he said that V could maybe be like that because of the drinks but he was literally drinking a soda at the time. 😅
I agree that RM knows how to give the best answer but I wouldn’t say he is giving a humble response when rating himself tbh, he’s spoken up about how he struggles with his self esteem and loving himself which is why he’s the biggest advocate for their campaign out of all the guys imo lol.
Fair enough. That makes sense.
@@maxpbeaumont i think you would understand RM more if you listened to his solo songs, especially his mixtape "mono"
As you watch them thru the years, you're gonna see how protective they are of each other not just physically but also protecting each other's confidence and mental state. The hyung line allows the younger guys to grow but keeps them grounded and respectful. The maknae line energizes the group, allows the older guys to keep their childlike traits. Its an amazing balance, really. Their bond is strong and real.
If you’re looking for a recommendation for what to watch next I’d recommend an episode of BTS in the Soop (BTS in the forest) S1 or S2. It’s basically BTS at a retreat vacation. It’s a good example of them interacting in a more relaxed way, enjoying their hobbies, and there are reflective conversations throughout too
When J-Hope gets drunk, he doesn't talk much. J-Hope is the type who gets drunk right away. That's why he can't drink much, when he drinks and gets drunk, his face immediately turns red and starts to get quiet.
Sure, RM is known to give the “right response” a lot of times but over time I realize he gets cheeky about it or obvious about masking what he wants to say. It’s pretty entertaining.
Suga is the type to express his love more in action than words. He loves to cook for the members he does literally anything for them, he loves them deeply. To him they are more than family
Just for you info, jungkooj came in seoul at 15 yo korean age, he was in fact 13 years old when he moved and 15 years old when he debuted
Jungkook usually is a listener, he listens to everyone talking and with full attention.. Back then he was very shy and introvert, but now he is a grown up man with full confidence on his voice, speech and personality.. I am in love with his confidence 😎
Great and perceptive reaction! V and Jin are both live wires and often in the thick of any mischief, don't be fooled by V's sometimes blank expression. Suga has admitted that he sometimes has trouble communicating his feelings, even when he wants to, and he uses his song writing to pour out his feelings. Some say that RM is the heart of the group and that Suga is the soul. They all have a slightly more mature approach these days but still have delightful personalities.
you haven't really gotten them down yet that's why you're surprised at some things like V being fun and playful. he's like that. There's just different sides to people. You'll discover as you go. I recommend Run BTS or In the Soop
I like how you mentioned the dynamic between Jimin and RM. I always admired their bond and how they would always be involved in deep conversations with each other. They are more vulnerable and more open with their feelings and I think that is so mature and impressive in a person especially men. It is so refreshing to see.
You know how some days you just wake up sad and there's no reason? That was today for me. Usually I end up sitting with BTS as their sweetness and kindness feels like a balm on an open wound, or a warm fire I can sit by while I feel cold.
Feeling you appreciate, earnestly (and expertly!) them added an extra spark to the warmth. Thank you for another good video. Somehow yours have become healing as well.
I can totally relate. Glad you’re feeling a bit better :)
For me V has the most interesting personality, he can be loud if he wants but if he doesn't feel good or doesn't want to do something he is quiet and in his own world ( like JK) but people usually misunderstand him because he seems cold. He is/was the social butterfly of the group, he has many friends from the kpop industry and actors, but in the last years he became more private and mature. Somehow i feel like after losing 2 important people in his life ( his grandparents, the ones who raised him ) he closed himself because he was suffering and felt like he needs to grow up ( if you watch In the soop you will the that he is stil a child inside and he loves to do & say random things). When he was younger he was very energetic. He doesnt sugarcoat things, he can be very blunt and is very honest with his feelings. I love his relationship with Jimin, they are best friends, Jimin was always there for Tae and "babies" him, in a way, JK is the youngest but Tae is the " baby", no one can say no to his requests and they always let him do what he wants.
jungkookie is just introverted, he was quieter than usual in this video. in others you’ll find him being very outgoing and speaking more, it just depends on his mood and the atmosphere really. but all of bts adore him and since he’s their youngest, they often baby him and really hype up his every word and action 😭 it’s very sweet, he’s very loved. and its well deserved, he’s a great dongsaeng to them, he’s always listening well and helping them cook/clean/do whatever they ask of him. he has a special dynamic with every member and is very close to each of them. he’s also insanely talented at everything he does and he’s a very hard worker, bts wouldn’t be what they are without him.
Its cool that you picked up on the bond between Jimin and Jungkook. Of course they all love and support each other, that goes without saying. But Jungkook has said that Jin and Jimin, especially Jimin, are the ones who take care of him the most. So he has a really close bond with those two. Its quite evident as of late too. When ever you see Jungkook in a video, he’s either with Jimin or Jin. Or its all three of them together.
I'd throw Hobi in there too. Jimin, JK and JH seem super close and like they all share a great dynamic when together.
@@myschiefkim7276 Jungkook said it himself in a Japanese interview last year that hes closest to Jin and Jimin. This is not something made up but what came out of his mouth.
I agree. A loud large minority of the BTS fandom like to pretend that Jimin and Jungkook's bond is just scripted and forced fan service but it takes a real idiot not to see that those two are genuinely close af lol
@@myschiefkim7276 you know we can trust their words, right? Jungkook has repeatedly expressed how close he is with Jimin since the beginning. Some people get along better than others. That’s just natural. No one can claim that some care more about each other than others, but certain members have been very vocal about their relationship. Tae’s love for Jimin saying he’s his favorite, Jin and Yoongi calling themselves soulmates, Jungkook and Jimin expressing how they are similar in many ways and have a very close bond because they get along great and have deep understanding for their shared love for the stage which makes their relationship special.
@@myschiefkim7276 what I really want to know is why you’re fighting so hard to disprove Jungkooks bond with Jimin. seriously, just give it a rest. If you think that BTS relationships and bonds with each other are all just for show, what the hell are you a fan for. are you really army if you’re questioning their sincerity towards each other and claiming they’re being controlled by the company? That’s pure bs. even more so in regards to Taehyung. When they were younger, Jungkook and Tae were always together, literally inseparable. And that was shown in a lot of “bighit content”. But as they said, life happens. They are still closer than most friends but not as close as they used to be. Theres no “distant narrative”. Thats just how it is. So instead of believing what you can clearly see with your eyes, you’re making up ulterior motives in your head. Make it make sense.
These 7 men were meant to be together. They have said many times that when they first became BTS there was a lot of arguing and tension (I mean....7 guys living in one tiny apartment will do that I suppose) but the thing about them is that they never stopped communicating, they never stopped listening and learning from each other. So now it's not just that they magically fit together, but they grew together and that makes this even more special. All the things you say about how the members relate to each other and fill in the gaps for each other is absolutely spot on and all of that is a result of hard work, communication, and a bit of fate.
It feels good knowing that you recognize and appreciate all the guys and everything that each of them brings to the table. Thank you for that. Very few people that I’ve seen put in a conscious effort to understand each of them.
this was 2018, they openly said they were having a difficult time, this was before the acceptance speech that you reacted to that one time. Jungkook is quiet. But this is the only video that ive seen he's very disengaged. In the 2021 Festa they talked about Jungkook "distancing" (i dont wanna misinterpret but thats what i got from it) himself and kinda keeping problems to himself. im just soglad they got through that
Actually jk was 13yrs old when he came to Seoul and debuted at 15yrs of age. They are using the Korean age system where they add 1 yr to your global age and sometimes it becomes 2yrs if u are born in the later months of the year
hobi is called “the second leader”
Right
Jimin and RM is often shown having deep talks in different BTS series like Bon Voyage and In The Soop. They talk about life, how they feel about some phases in their careers and such. I really like their relationship with each other. It's like the support systems having a support session of their own - kinda like that. Thank you for reacting to this... it warmed my heart and I just fell in love with their bond even more. More power to your channel🌸🌸
I always remember during the other festa when RM said Jimin is the one that talk to him so he would be more understanding of all the members and he didn’t have to check on them all the time :) their bond is so cute and mature.
I feel the same.
Jin and Suga are "eternal roommates". Suga has said Jin was the best roommate he could have ever asked for. In the first season of In The Soop they referenced being soul mates, and having the same personality type, INTP.
Yes it’s interesting how their personalities seem so different at first because Jin can be a lively jokester so one might assume he is extroverted (and he is very friendly) but they are actually both introverts and therefore require much alone/quiet time which makes them well-matched roommates. 🥰
there's a lot of clips i see on twitter compiled where Jungkook is always off to the side and watching the other 6...and he sort of just observes them with a soft smile. I think he, to this day, speaks less still, but he seems genuinely happy and amused just watching them. He looks at them with such happiness and comfort. I think, like Suga, he's just quieter and private, but he can open up when he needs to. The other members are quite protective of him and said he was really shy when he joined the group, so i think that's why they don't pressure him, especially Suga, who understands him a lot.
30 minutes of a man simping for namjoon. i understand you, and i applaud you because i too adore RM.
I would really love to see your commentary on the rise of bangtan series. It contains a lot of bts’ vlogs where you can really assess each member’s individual personality and communication skills when they’re not in the group setting, and you can also see how much their communication has evolved over time, particularly for guys like Jin, JK and V.
The thing with Jungkook, this was filmed when they were discussing disbanding. Jk had a VERY rough time with it, but he didn't talk to the other members about it (they said this years later). He posted a song cover at that time, All of my life, which is heartbreaking
The younger members Jimin, V and Jungkook really looks up to their hyungs (older brothers) Jin, Suga, JHope and RM. Each member respect, trust, love and support each other so much. Their genuine emotions and thoughts and beautiful personalities are on top of the hundreds of reasons why we love BTS unconditionally and why we support and protect them so much.
All in all 2018 was really hard for them, you saw the speech where they talked about disbanding…. That’s why this festa was more on the raw side.
JK was having a hard time and kinda shut down, I think Jin talked about it in 2020 festa
I think you’d love watching Suga and V full Be-hind interview, you’ll see the full Daegu honesty on display.
RM really is the perfect leader for this group
You’ll notice the further back you go how different V is. He was known for being very hyper in bts’ early years (2013-2017ish). I’d be very interested to hear what u have to say about his personality from back then
You can almost never understand or decipher V. He's honest but he's reserved. He is expressive but not with words. He's an observer and an action taker too. He is really alert to his surrounding and helps anyone in trouble. You may see him as someone quiet or sometimes seems cold, but actually he is a social butterfly that has so many friends inside and outside the industry. He is just charming and soft-spoken that people instantly fall in love. Thats why Suga also has a very soft core spot for him.
the thing about namjoon & yoongi having different mindsets is so true. it's something they even express in their lyrics- sometimes in a song namjoon would approach the topic with what he believes and yoongi would say the complete opposite or just take a different approach, it's super interesting. it's such a cool aspect of their artistry, making songs as a group while also honouring their individualism :')
Fyi: Taehyung usually host BTS' personal trips & gatherings.
Suga once said if he got RM's brain and height,he could take over the world!He also complimented several times that RM is really the best leader!These touch me a lot bcs I know Suga is also very intelligent ,and he is an outstanding & amazing producer!
You hit the nail on the head when you described the relationship btw RM and Jimin (they call themselves MiniMoni). They sometimes do vlives together and they are always a trip because they get deep into emotional conversations. When they were at Bon Voyage Malta they went out together and the other members were talking about what they thought they were doing and it one of them said “Namjoon and Jimin are both very emotional. They will probably have meaningful conversations about their feelings and give each other advice.” It was exactly what they did lol
jungkook is at his most chaotic when he's with jin
Jungkook joined BTS at the age of 13 and at 15 he debuted with important and demanding roles, he is the main vocalist and the center member. he was put in a constant race with other groups, and he started to compare himself with other main vocalists. he was a kid who received so many compliments because of his natural skills literally in every field, but as he received them, he couldn't see the reflection of those compliments because he was so critical about himself. and also BTS was looked down upon by other groups and the industry while starting, so he wanted to represent the group, wanted to be someone to be proud of. despite being so talented, he doesn't think of himself as a person who is accomplished yet. before, this caused him to lack self-confidence but now he started to bloom, get confidence which leads him to constant self-growth. i can see you are not appreciating him because you didn't hear enough of his words, and maybe in here he looks disengaged but he observes and learn from his surroundings deeply with love and never misses a chance to appreciate this. i wonder if you'll get to know him someday.
Jungkook deserves the world. He is a amazing person with the most beautiful heart on earth.
@@gabrielasacramento4516 yeah, purest soul deserves all the compliments🥺
RM is younger than Hobi, Suga, and Jin. He always shows his respect to them as elders.
Taehyung (V) before was really extrovert and talked a lot and always was joking around but he suddenly changed a LOT that’s why now you see him more quite and chill… when I tell you that everyone notice that he was different even some Korean fans created a hashtag for bighit to take care of him or something… people was worried but then he said that he changed because he wanted to be normal or more mature… that it’s sad cause being funny and those things doesn’t make you less mature but I think he is better now
jimin really has jungkook's back, but so does jungkook, they have such a cool dynamic, can't wait for you to dwell more into it!
Idk about first-first impressions but the first new year eve since they moved into the dorm where trainees live, suga stay behind with jhope at the dorm when it was supposed to be just jhope alone while everyone else went home to spend time with their families. It was very sweet of him
I always love seeing how your thoughts on Taehyung (V) change with every video you make! I found it the most interesting that you noticed his lack of facial expression or disengagement, most of the time he’s one of the most expressive members. Seeing Taehyung less engaged or more timid is a recent trait he’s developed, if you go back to older videos you’ll see more of his childlike personality and unique way of self-expression. He’s shown less of his energetic side lately, but it still pops out from time to time! :)
I think the 2004** BTS live log would be a really interesting one to react to. It’s a livestream about them brainstorming for the album BE and I think it’s the clearest example of what their professional working relationship is probably like. It really feels like you’re a fly on the wall and I really enjoyed having insight into how an album actually comes together. Watch the bangtan subs version though because the subs are better and easier to follow than the original bangtantv one!
Good idea
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@@WE__BTS as in 2020 April xx date
Your comment on how RM & Jimin stand out in the vulnerability department really makes me think... Maybe this is one of the main reasons why these two are my biases in the group. I mean I love all of them but when it comes to Jimin & RM it just hits different.
If you separate Jk from Jin, Jk becomes a more closed person, I have seen happen many times in the runs
looking bck at this video especially focusing on jungkook is really interesting because he definitely wasn't as confident then, but during the pandemic he has really grown into himself and you can feel it in his energy and by the way he expresses himself with his body as well as his appearance and it's so great to see. he has such an easygoing nature around him now and you can tell he's content with himself and is genuinely confident
This was the year when they were planning on disbandment, considering how jungkook loves performing on stage and how he loves his fellow members.. It's quite normal that he isn't engaging much.. Even in 2020 festa jin also mentioned about it.. Moreover he is an introvert.. He is someone who likes to observe people and pays more attention on that.. As simple as that and he has mentioned multiple times that he likes to communicate with music.. No wonder his covers are so full of emotions which makes u feel so many things and they r just lovely😍
U should checkout their other festas and his talent videos by channel ida s.. U will love it☺
About jimin and namjoons dynamic, yes! I believe they have a special bond too, you can see a lot of moments of them being like that to each other.
Open, honest, expressive. Vulnerability, integrity. Love them. I'm glad you can articulate so well the things that draw me to watch them and support them this much. Thank you for your videos!
RM did mention, when he went out with JHope, that he considers JHope as a second leader to BTS, other things that he couldn't do, JHope takes care of it.
I found it really weird how Jungkook is the most popular member.
He is the most searched kpop idol in RUclips and Google for more then five years.
Jungkook nickname is the golden makna and most people say that he is perfect.
I really think that Jungkook had in the past problems in communication and i think the reason for that, that he joined bts at a very young age and he didn't have a normal childhood.
Jungkook said in the past that he also feel like he think slower then most of the people because he didn't learn at school enough (he finished school but he came just for important tests)
In my opinion the reason why Jungkook look up for RM so much is because RM is amazing in the things that Jungkook is lacking.
most people love Jungkook because his talent and his humble personality.
Actually before bts, seven different companies wanted to sign him and he choose bts because he was impressed by RM charisma.
Sorry about my English is not my native language.
Interesting that you brought up about Suga and V. Because Suga once revealed about how he wondered if V is genuine and then realised that V is just the way he portrayed himself to be. 💜 the main reason why bts is well-loved is because they are authentic. So many content about them but their personalities are consistent.
Kookie just being himself.
He's not discomfort at all. He himself expressed he feel happy observing his other 6 hyungs (means big brothers)
I think you’re partially right. Yes JK is being himself, but he is the most uncomfortable when it comes to heartfelt/deep conversations like this because he has trouble expressing his emotions. He said it himself. In another context, let’s say in the RUN! episodes, he’s a lot more relaxed and you can see him being engage differently.
12:06 yeah ur on point with that 😂 jhope tends to become quieter when drunk
The BTS/Army synergy is very interesting to me. I've never seen such an intimate artist/fan relationship, especially coming from the western world. BTS, especially in the early days, relied on Army emotionally to a certain degree. They've mentioned in the past that they were supposed to protect Army but Army ended up getting hurt in the process. Army grew by the millions but the way they address Army as a person is so endearing.
they all have a soft spot for jk, he's their youngest and they've helped him grow beautifully
it feels like taehyung is the hard number of bts in literally every field , everyone from any proffession is lowkey interested in him and he keep surprising everybody , this guy is very unique 😆
Jungkook is not necessarilt disengaged. Jungkook likes being a sponge, absorbing everything around him. Most of the time Jungkook seems not active, but when asked, he remembers everything.
Yes, Jungkook will be the quiet one sitting and smiling by the side while his 6 hyungs are talking, bickering, arguing and joking around. JK will be observing, listening and responding when he needs to. That's why he's good with art, music and a jack of all trade coz the 6 hyungs always look for him to do some tasks as we can see from BTS In The Soop.
im just like him omg a sponge is the perfect way to describe us lol
Yes, JK is 100 acute observer, which ties into his ISFP (S= sensing preference) and his ability to absorb info is almost non-human. Besides RM, his English pronunciation in songs is close to native speaker; he loves to imitate his members and can observe all their tics and personality vocal and body movements and quirks. HIs Golden maknae status being good at almost everything is because he observes and can learn new info so quickly.
hobi does go a bit quieter when he drinks! and kook is the youngest and he used to be veeeery shy - to the point that he used to wait until the other trainees were asleep to shower. he is still a bit reserved, he doesn’t seem to like talking about his emotions as much as some of the other means, though he gets better every year. he also takes a lot of social queues from the other members and you can see that he tends to mimic a lot of their because, i think mostly because of how young he was when he met them; he entered the company when he was about 13/14 in international age, and it was a very difficult time for him away from home, he says that he missed his mum a lot.
when once asked about if there were any hardships he was going through, he cried (which was something he didn’t use to do a lot) and said that the only difficult moments are when his member are going through a tough time - this moment actually inspired a song called begin. anyway, hope you react to other festas, love watching it!
Glad you picked up on Jimin and Jungkook's dynamics. All members are really close and love each other, there's no doubt about that, but Jimin and Jungkook have a really special bond.
"i think jimin and rm have a really special bond" yes my guy thts absolutely right rm always says tht out of all others he thinks jimin is the most mature of all of them and indeed he is . jimins emotional intelligence is so much and rm knows it! and RM being a thoughtful guy himself they really bond well and they also have a very playful bond too between themselves which perfectly balances it out
I feel like out of all of them in 2021, Jungkook changed the most, he is way more confident now, and it shows in his clothes as well. He got full sleeve tattoos, tries out different hair colors and hairstyles, lip and eyebrow piercings, his clothes are more stylish and sometimes revealing....etc i love how confident he is now, it suits him so well
When you were talking about Jimin appreciating when others speak, it reminded me of when they were making their little characters for the Line Friends collab. They each created their own character with its own backstory. They all presented the back story to each other just sitting in a circle. When Suga was telling his characters backstory, he had a really funny detailed way of telling it but the other guys were busy writing down their own stories. Jimin suddenly stopped Suga and said something like "hey hyung can you praise me for being the only one listening?" It was a cute and funny moment haha