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I own a 2011 Outlander Sport and to tell the truth it is the best car I ever owned. I keep seeing reviews that say the engine is underpowered and noisy etc. This car has plenty of power and acceleration. I love the CVT transmission - it is so smooth - accelerates more like an electric car because there is no sensation of shifting. This car cost me about $3000 less than a comparable car and had great features such as heated seats, heated mirrors, 18" alloy wheels, smart key start system, and some great HID headlights. And if you really want to have some fun shift into manual shift mode and use the paddle shifters! I've driven it in 10" deep snow and it goes quite well considering it has "all Weather" tires on it and not real snow tires. Drove it across Illinois last January - the interstate was covered in 1 -3 inches of solid ice. The 4WD and traction control system worked great.
Don't forget to service the transmission & get a tune up just did mine at 138,500 miles. Runs like a dream biggest repair cost was a new computer $800.
I've driven both cars before and the Outlander is way fun to drive and nimble! Crosstrek with AWD system feels solid, but sluggish transmission, like driving with studded tires wont coast. As soon as you let up the gas, it quickly slows down.
3 years with my ASX 2011, cero problems. It doesn't vibrate, smooth drive. It has a good acceleration, you just need to learn how to do the shifting with the paddle shifters. Yes, some times you will feel a slowdown, but just shift 2 levels down and it will quickly accelerate perfectly.
I did the same shopping a few months back and actually purchased the Mitsu for my mother. The 2014 Mitsu engine received upgrades and it is so smooth at idle you can not hear it run and that is in the ES AWD. It also received more sound insulation. You feel no vibration in the pedal or steering wheel. On a 240 mile trip with over 700 pounds of stuff I averaged 31 mpg for the trip. Interstate and 2WD use. I liked both vehicles but honestly after much research I could not go with the Subaru. Inferior warranty and the shocking part was the maintenance cost were on the line of an Audi. Very high- very high indeed. Mitsu was very inexpensive to service.
it's a BOXER engine not BOXTER. People so often confuse the 2. this engine was not developed by Porsche. it describes the way the engine pistons fire, side to side, as opposed to up and down.
My front wheel drive 2014 Mitsu OS with manual transmission get around 29-32mpg hwy at 70-75mph. Country back roads I can get 32-35mpg all day long. The engine is indeed unpolished but is only rough when you push it, otherwise it is just as smooth as a Subie boxer. After about 5k miles it feels broken in and as a result smoother. The car rides plush yet grips very well in the corners. Steering unfortunately has no feel. The Mitsu is the best buy hands down and you get a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty. With incentives, you are looking at $17-18k. A bargain for this class.
I just got and Outlander Sport and I love it, I think these guys had their minds made up and obviously they love Subaru...nothing wrong with that but cmon let’s get someone with more of an open mind to do a comparison between two different vehicles.
I bought the Outlander Sport basic 2017 for 16k and had 800 miles on it but i love it, ride is smooth, looks great, has good room, etc etc im picking Mitsubishi even tho i like Subaru too
One year and 10K miles on a XV Crosstrek with 5spd manual - just love the car, great to drive, very economical, goes anywhere, not a single repair issue. We bought it to tow behind a Winnebago - the 5pd is one of the few you can get that you can do this with. The car will also pull up to a 1500lb trailer as well. Lots of versatility here. The Desert Khaki color is fantastic.
I bought a 2015 Mitsu Outlander Sport ES in Nov 2014. Seemed okay at first. Clean interior styling and a nice exterior styling. Smoother ride over our bumpy midwest roads than I expected. But then I noticed things I didn't care for. Steering was a fight around 35-40mph -- stiff and heavy, made my left shoulder sore. The Mitsu felt like a larger vehicle-- now in retrospect I realized that's because of the long wheelbase for this size vehicle. Driver's side mirror was warped and had a weird wide-angle appearance. In fact, both side mirrors, no matter how I positioned them, created blind spots. Lots of wind noise at speed, but that bothered the wife more than me. I like white noise. Doors clunky and stiff to open, like out of adjustment. I never did figure out where the oil filter was located. The "roads may be icy" beeped every time I turned on the vehicle-- no way to disable. Had the CVT. Gas pedal had that dead feeling like eco mode on the Prius I used to own. I had to press down significantly on the pedal to get any decent amount of power, and then it was too much power. It's a safety issue when you are waiting to turn left and you need moderate power--but pressing halfway gives you nothing. It really felt like I was fighting the gas pedal to do what I wanted--very non-linear feel. The "4WD" was not really 4WD -- it was AWD. It has two modes, "auto" and "lock' -- which I find misleading because "lock" is not "lock" like on real 4WD. But no matter which 4WD mode I chose, it fishtailed badly in snow when pulling into traffic. And once I had to brake quickly in the snow, and it slid -- I didn't hear anti-lock brakes going ..weird. So with under 2000 miles on the Mitsu, I traded it in for a 2015 Crosstrek. Now admittedly, the Crosstrek looks like a car and feels smaller inside than the Mitsu. The side mirrors on the Crosstrek are smaller. The road feel is a tad harsher, but only a very small tad. Still better over potholes than the Prius. However, the mirrors on the Crosstrek are flat and have no warps. No blind spots when adjusted correctly, despite being smaller. No weird wide-angle feel on driver's mirror. No beep about icy roads when I start up the Crosstrek. Gas pedal has a smooth and linear feel--it does exactly what I want. I tested it in snow--very good handling. No fishtailing. And the oil filter is in plain sight under the hood. My Crosstrek does have condensation in the headlamps--that will have to be fixed. Also, I'm not fond of the exterior styling (that's why I chose the Mitsu at first). But ultimately, the drive quality made my final choice. I like the interior of the Crosstrek, and I will spend more time looking at the inside than the out, so perhaps the exterior styling is more forgivable.
I think the bonus with both cars is the light offroad capabilty, and descent fuel economy in a small package. I think lower cost of ownership and one the best new car warranties give the Mitsubishi the edge. Both are very cool either way.
I own the 2014 rvr. My last car was a 5 spd altima with the 3.5 v6 The rvr is no drag car. But by all means its not slow. Dont know why reviwers keep saying that. It's a great car. Everyone complains that it's slow. It's not. It also doesn't have a whine coming from the cvt . And the paddle shifter are not useless. I barely use the brakes because I downshift with them all the time. And when putting it into sport mode the car is also much quicker using the paddles. I took the rvr off road on a very technical trail, no problems what so ever with a mud pit. Ground clearance is great as well.
really? i have a rvr (called outlander sport in my country) and it's so damnn sloww.... it takes forever to overtaking the car in front of you... even my 1.3 sirion (an inexpensive city car) a lot faster and much more effortless to do the exactly same thing...
What I don't get is they praise the outlanders CVT, then bash on subaru's. They then make the point that subaru's gas milage is far superior. You can't have it both ways!
Hey, An Aussie here, I bought on of those outlander sports, except here in Aus it's called an ASX, I got the 5 speed manual, 2.0L petrol and I love it, if I could have afforded the 2.2L turbo diesel i may have but the petrol has a fair bit of pepper in it if you have a go at it.
CVT "shifts" -- that's weird since CVT does not have gears, rather, drive cones that continuously vary the transmission drive ratios from the engine to the output shaft... :) That being said, the engine does tend to try and change the ratio at ~45mph to conserve fuel requiring increased throttle to compensate... that's my only complaint with the CVT (and I agree, compared to other CVTs, this one feels the most natural).
Price is my issue out my way Mitsubishi has a volume dealer he gets outlanders in 50 to 60 at a time his avg price is around 19k for one with mid level trim and AWD the subaru dealers here are smaller and as a result tend to order top tier trim cars that they demand top dollar for ( people do pay it) my current daily driver an 08 accent has a liscence built mitsu engine and it runs fine so for me its simple I would go for the outlander cause its got the better deal
in the video he kept saying the crosstrek's cvt would stay at like 3500 rpm and then shift down... its a cvt it doesn't shift unless you have it in manual mode. it stays at that rpm to give you the best power to get to the speed desired depending on how hard you us the gas pedal. i have a crosstrek myself and i love it. i test drove the nissan rouge with a cvt before buying my crosstrek and the cvt on that was horrible.
I think there is more to the price than the MSRP. Suburu almost never have any deals whereas Mitsubushi does all the time. For example, right now they have a $1500 cash bonus on the Outlander sport so the ES model with automatic is 17.3k whereas the cheapest automatic model of the suburu (2.0I premuim) is 22.7K. That's a 5.4 thousand dollar difference!!!!! (these are prices found using Truecar in the NYC area. )
Where I live a local dealer gets about 19k for AWD the price vs a subaru is closer to 3000 difference but thats still a big canyon plus like you said Mitsubishi constantly throws deals whereas subie dosent and in today's economy you want the most for your dollar
I'm impressed with Subaru's all-wheel-drive system. it performs better than my 04 Blazer 4 wheel drive system. I wish I could find a small SUV with a body on frame system. I want to have the options to be able to tow or put a snow plow on it. I wish there was a channel that someone did a old car review. I would like to see on how some of these cars hold up over time. I would like to see reviews of cars over two hundred and thousand miles and learn what type of issues the cars had through its lifetime
I have want a outlander sport since they first rolled out. I love the styling and the high content for ur buck. They are deeply discounting these cars. My mitsubishi dealer just closed here in Chattanooga but I did finally stop by and test drive one
Just two questions. What do you mean by shifting while talking about the Subaru, there is no shifting in CVT since it doesn't have gears like traditional transmissions? The other is vibration from the accelerator pedal in the Mitsubishi, it's electronic, no throttle cable, what was making it vibrate?
I have to admit that when we were looking at vehicles in this segment I didn't even consider Mitsubishi. I bought a 2014 Crosstrek Premium for my wife and a 2015 Crosstrek Limited for myself. That is mostly based on the fact that you see lots of old Subarus on the road but not too many old Mitsus. I simply don't like how they age. That being said I like the styling on the Outlander Sport! -Lose that colored band across the grill and make it all black grill. That would look badass. What is also impressive is how well they integrated the sub woofer compared to Subaru's, which by comparison looks like they simply tossed a box into the back with no regard for how vehicles are used. Very interesting comparison between the two vehicles.
***** Wow, that's kind of surprising for me to hear-I see old Mitsubishis on the road all the time. I see quite a few from Subaru too though. Most of the older cars I see though are usually from Honda, Nissan, or Toyota.
Riverside State Park along the mighty Spokane River. In the early 80s I drove my '79 Subaru GL on the road on the opposite side of the river when it was closed during the winter. Now the road is permanently closed.
Its not a rough ride, it has stiffer suspension for better handling. Also, the interior isn't cheap, its utilitarian for outdoor enthusiasts... It's all about how you sell it :p lol
Interesting comparison guys! Are you going to review the upcoming CrossTrek Hybrid? It's supposed to have a little more boost at low rpm and quicker steering, from what I've read so far.
I'm a Mitsubishi fan, a huge Mitsubishi fan, but I struggle with the Outlander sport. It feels like it has no purpose. They should just make a lowered version of the Outlander and not cut off the back and rake the roof. The sport is just a bad car with bad visibility.
Lineartronic cvt was designed and refined to work efficiently with the Boxer 2.0l which allows for all around fuel efficiency 25.5 city and 33-35 hwy. I can speak to this because I own a My2017 yr model. Yes, the gas pedal here in our AZ Summers is kinda lack luster with the parocidic A/C in use..😄. But turn that bad boi off and you will have excellent powa with AWD to take you guilt free where you want to go! -Love my Subaru Trek
Not bad review, but as a Subaru XV owner I can tell you the MPG's are way out. The PZEV system works by running the engine at higher RPM's when it is cold, so this kills MPG's on short trips, (seriously you might only get 17 to 22 MPG if you do less than 5 miles,) and it is putting way more wear and tear on the engine. Also, when cold it seems to have much less power, so making left turns in my experience can be dangerous.
I Preffer Subaru XV. Subaru XV have 4x4 wheel drive (AWD). with smart gearbox (X-Mode). Also XV have Taft Steering System. Steering rack position are in the front of wheel center shaft. It protecting steering rack and the tierod from damage when the front wheel Lacing During driving over the road hole. ========================================= Saya Pilih Subaru XV. Subaru XV memiliki penggerak 4 Roda.(AWD) dengan memiliki gearbox yang cerdas (X-Mode). Subaru XV Juga memiliki sistem stir yang tangguh. yakni posisi Rak Stir yang berada di depan dari titik tengah roda depan. posisi rak stir yang berada di depan titik roda akan melindungi rak stir dan tierod dari hantaman roda saat mobil melindas jalan berlubang.
Subaru all the way we have a 2001 Forester with 289K and it still runs great! I want a Crosstrek myself but I wont get the CVT. I would opt for the 5 speed.
You know the announcer isn't a true car enthusiast when he says the subaru has a boxter engine... Sorry, but can you please explain to me how this marvelous boxter engine works? Is it just a miniaturized porsche convertible as a powerplant???
sorooshusa Even though they're the same class of cars, they're not really a good comparison. The EVO is heavily computerized, while the STI in comparison is archaic. That doesn't mean the STI is bad by any means, but the driver is getting far less assistance. Maybe things have changed though. It's been a while since I've seen what features either of them have. Subaru in general has simpler vehicles (in an electronic perspective) compared to their competition, regardless of class.
The Subaru actually has fake shift points because the trans was so smooth. Seems the consumer wanted to feel like it was shifting. The Subaru is quiet, smooth to the point of making one think its slightly underpowered which it really isn't. Winter driving with the Subaru is without compare.. Mitsubishi is a fine car but needs a few more years to evolve.
This guy definitely doesnt know what a cvt is, cvt's don't shift at all. Any "shift points" are just to make them feel more traditional, its all computer controlled.
+Dylan Piekarski natural to what? Cause it's not natural for cvt to shift. It's an issue with people not being able to handle change. Even giving up the benefits of a cvt just to feel better.
The shifting only happens when you ask it to aka: you put it in sport mode or whatever. And it makes it more natural in the sense that you actually feel it doing something, rather than just sit at high Revs forever and not go any faster when you need it to. Most cvt's, with the acception of Subaru and actual performance oriented versions, are slow at outright acceleration. And everyone wants the efficiency of cvt's, there is no argument about that, but to what cost of driving performance, and enjoyment? If you buy a vehicle with the more powerful version of an engine, you want the better performance, not the efficiency. Long story short, adding the shift points gives people more enjoyment while still allowing better efficiency.
Dylan Piekarski I can assure you as an owner of a 2015 impreza, it doesn't give you a choice. Even cars with Xmode will still fake shift in every setting. they just change the way it fakes the shifts and what rpm it sits at. fuck that. when I get on the freeway and get to 55 and the car goes from 5k rpm and drops by 1k rpm give or take(it's never the same) I lose power, I feel the car lag and I have to bring it back up again. it's frustrating because I know I could be to speed quicker then the software is allowing the engine. CVT's would be fun as fuck if they didn't fake shift, resulting in moments of lower power output. The absolute only time I can get it to keep a steady rpm while gaining is on a flat and at 2.5k since there isn't any room for it to drop the rpm. at 3k it will still do it though and drop off about 500-700rpm. It's a pain for me and others who understand what an engine could do if this was not holding it back. I'm fine with Xmode, I'm 100% ok with having options. but for those who buy base models or don't want fake shifts, they should give us nothing but pure CVT experience. I would be ecstatic to have a car I can hold at an rpm while gaining then have a magic button to do fake shifts or low for simulated low gear off road (which they all have). but no option.. it's a mistake.
@@HarvinderSandhuEsq More reliable than a simple Mitsu? Hardly, Ive owned both brands. The Subie was a better performer but also had shittier CVT programming, blown head gaskets, and cost alot more to maintain. Mitsubishis simply cosy alot less to maintain.
Just reading what the EPA numbers are? the whole point about giving a review is experiences based off your real world findings. Gas mileage is a big one these days. Drives like a Subaru sounds like the old time reviewers who crooned about Chevys.
Yes, Canadian here. I had no idea that's what its called in US. I pictured the Outlander Sport to be a faster version of the Outlander like the Forester and Forester XT.
you're not going to get quality and refinement in a Ford, my family has 2 fords and a toyota. hate to say it but i wont buy another ford due to lack of quality.
Let's get this real.....subaru is a problem once it hits 100k.....headgasket or oil leak by the headgasket .....I rather feel vibration ....then unreliable..
Estas pruebas de manejo no son ningun parametro pues el Subarú esta hecho tanto para confort y calidad de manejo en carretera como en off road donde el Mitsubishi nunca llegaria , pero nada de eso se ve Nadie compra un Subarú con su sistema de traccion solo para ir al supermercado o viajar solo por asfalto Este comparativo es un sin sentidio
@@everymandriver You know what they say about opinions..... :) You might want to take a look at TFL channel and the Subaru failing on gold mine hill that the Mitsubishi and Jeep crossovers made with no issue. I can't say the Mitsubishi is better in all situations, but I watched a Crosstrek get hopelessly stuck in deep sand that an Outlander Sport went right through. Both cars had Yokohama Geolander tires, so it wasn't the tires and if anything, the Subaru driver was more skilled. Subaru may be better in some situations on road, but seeing the TFL video and how it gets stuck in sand. I think off road has to be the Mitsubishi. Love your channel, by the way. Every time you say "oh-blank" handle, I get a chuckle. Wife says you have a sexy voice.
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I own a 2011 Outlander Sport and to tell the truth it is the best car I ever owned. I keep seeing reviews that say the engine is underpowered and noisy etc. This car has plenty of power and acceleration. I love the CVT transmission - it is so smooth - accelerates more like an electric car because there is no sensation of shifting. This car cost me about $3000 less than a comparable car and had great features such as heated seats, heated mirrors, 18" alloy wheels, smart key start system, and some great HID headlights. And if you really want to have some fun shift into manual shift mode and use the paddle shifters! I've driven it in 10" deep snow and it goes quite well considering it has "all Weather" tires on it and not real snow tires. Drove it across Illinois last January - the interstate was covered in 1 -3 inches of solid ice. The 4WD and traction control system worked great.
How's the cabin noise on the highway?
I completely agree with you I also have an 2011 outlander sport !🙂
Don't forget to service the transmission & get a tune up just did mine at 138,500 miles. Runs like a dream biggest repair cost was a new computer $800.
I've driven both cars before and the Outlander is way fun to drive and nimble! Crosstrek with AWD system feels solid, but sluggish transmission, like driving with studded tires wont coast. As soon as you let up the gas, it quickly slows down.
3 years with my ASX 2011, cero problems. It doesn't vibrate, smooth drive. It has a good acceleration, you just need to learn how to do the shifting with the paddle shifters. Yes, some times you will feel a slowdown, but just shift 2 levels down and it will quickly accelerate perfectly.
I did the same shopping a few months back and actually purchased the Mitsu for
my mother.
The 2014 Mitsu engine received upgrades and it is so smooth at idle you can not hear it run and that is in the ES AWD. It also received more sound insulation. You feel no vibration in the pedal or steering wheel.
On a 240 mile trip with over 700 pounds of stuff I averaged 31 mpg for the trip. Interstate and 2WD use.
I liked both vehicles but honestly after much research I could not go with the Subaru. Inferior warranty and the shocking part was the maintenance cost were on the line of an Audi. Very high- very high indeed. Mitsu was very inexpensive to service.
I want to buy car for first time which one is the best
Appreciate the info given on your experience. I was just thinking which year should I get.
it's a BOXER engine not BOXTER. People so often confuse the 2. this engine was not developed by Porsche. it describes the way the engine pistons fire, side to side, as opposed to up and down.
My front wheel drive 2014 Mitsu OS with manual transmission get around 29-32mpg hwy at 70-75mph. Country back roads I can get 32-35mpg all day long. The engine is indeed unpolished but is only rough when you push it, otherwise it is just as smooth as a Subie boxer. After about 5k miles it feels broken in and as a result smoother. The car rides plush yet grips very well in the corners. Steering unfortunately has no feel. The Mitsu is the best buy hands down and you get a 10yr/100k powertrain warranty. With incentives, you are looking at $17-18k. A bargain for this class.
I just got and Outlander Sport and I love it, I think these guys had their minds made up and obviously they love Subaru...nothing wrong with that but cmon let’s get someone with more of an open mind to do a comparison between two different vehicles.
I have a XV Crosstrek, but I like Outlander more
I bought the Outlander Sport basic 2017 for 16k and had 800 miles on it but i love it, ride is smooth, looks great, has good room, etc etc im picking Mitsubishi even tho i like Subaru too
One year and 10K miles on a XV Crosstrek with 5spd manual - just love the car, great to drive, very economical, goes anywhere, not a single repair issue.
We bought it to tow behind a Winnebago - the 5pd is one of the few you can get that you can do this with. The car will also pull up to a 1500lb trailer as well. Lots of versatility here.
The Desert Khaki color is fantastic.
The Mitsu looks cool/mean the Subie looks like an AMC eagle....
@the machinist Spoken like a true fuckwad.
Bravo.
Subaru, great until a head gasket blows.
I'd love an amc eagle! Then just swap in a VW TDI!
I bought a 2015 Mitsu Outlander Sport ES in Nov 2014. Seemed okay at first. Clean interior styling and a nice exterior styling. Smoother ride over our bumpy midwest roads than I expected. But then I noticed things I didn't care for. Steering was a fight around 35-40mph -- stiff and heavy, made my left shoulder sore. The Mitsu felt like a larger vehicle-- now in retrospect I realized that's because of the long wheelbase for this size vehicle.
Driver's side mirror was warped and had a weird wide-angle appearance. In fact, both side mirrors, no matter how I positioned them, created blind spots.
Lots of wind noise at speed, but that bothered the wife more than me. I like white noise.
Doors clunky and stiff to open, like out of adjustment.
I never did figure out where the oil filter was located.
The "roads may be icy" beeped every time I turned on the vehicle-- no way to disable.
Had the CVT. Gas pedal had that dead feeling like eco mode on the Prius I used to own. I had to press down significantly on the pedal to get any decent amount of power, and then it was too much power. It's a safety issue when you are waiting to turn left and you need moderate power--but pressing halfway gives you nothing. It really felt like I was fighting the gas pedal to do what I wanted--very non-linear feel.
The "4WD" was not really 4WD -- it was AWD. It has two modes, "auto" and "lock' -- which I find misleading because "lock" is not "lock" like on real 4WD. But no matter which 4WD mode I chose, it fishtailed badly in snow when pulling into traffic. And once I had to brake quickly in the snow, and it slid -- I didn't hear anti-lock brakes going ..weird.
So with under 2000 miles on the Mitsu, I traded it in for a 2015 Crosstrek. Now admittedly, the Crosstrek looks like a car and feels smaller inside than the Mitsu. The side mirrors on the Crosstrek are smaller. The road feel is a tad harsher, but only a very small tad. Still better over potholes than the Prius. However, the mirrors on the Crosstrek are flat and have no warps. No blind spots when adjusted correctly, despite being smaller. No weird wide-angle feel on driver's mirror. No beep about icy roads when I start up the Crosstrek. Gas pedal has a smooth and linear feel--it does exactly what I want. I tested it in snow--very good handling. No fishtailing. And the oil filter is in plain sight under the hood.
My Crosstrek does have condensation in the headlamps--that will have to be fixed. Also, I'm not fond of the exterior styling (that's why I chose the Mitsu at first). But ultimately, the drive quality made my final choice. I like the interior of the Crosstrek, and I will spend more time looking at the inside than the out, so perhaps the exterior styling is more forgivable.
How's the Subaru at merging and passing on the highway?
I think the bonus with both cars is the light offroad capabilty, and descent fuel economy in a small package. I think lower cost of ownership and one the best new car warranties give the Mitsubishi the edge. Both are very cool either way.
I own the 2014 rvr. My last car was a 5 spd altima with the 3.5 v6 The rvr is no drag car. But by all means its not slow. Dont know why reviwers keep saying that. It's a great car. Everyone complains that it's slow. It's not. It also doesn't have a whine coming from the cvt . And the paddle shifter are not useless. I barely use the brakes because I downshift with them all the time. And when putting it into sport mode the car is also much quicker using the paddles. I took the rvr off road on a very technical trail, no problems what so ever with a mud pit. Ground clearance is great as well.
really? i have a rvr (called outlander sport in my country) and it's so damnn sloww.... it takes forever to overtaking the car in front of you... even my 1.3 sirion (an inexpensive city car) a lot faster and much more effortless to do the exactly same thing...
What I don't get is they praise the outlanders CVT, then bash on subaru's. They then make the point that subaru's gas milage is far superior. You can't have it both ways!
Hey, An Aussie here, I bought on of those outlander sports, except here in Aus it's called an ASX, I got the 5 speed manual, 2.0L petrol and I love it, if I could have afforded the 2.2L turbo diesel i may have but the petrol has a fair bit of pepper in it if you have a go at it.
Blessed you two.. you both have no idea how much this video help me, am looking for a second hand car so tqvm and much appreciated!
CVT "shifts" -- that's weird since CVT does not have gears, rather, drive cones that continuously vary the transmission drive ratios from the engine to the output shaft... :) That being said, the engine does tend to try and change the ratio at ~45mph to conserve fuel requiring increased throttle to compensate... that's my only complaint with the CVT (and I agree, compared to other CVTs, this one feels the most natural).
Price is my issue out my way Mitsubishi has a volume dealer he gets outlanders in 50 to 60 at a time his avg price is around 19k for one with mid level trim and AWD the subaru dealers here are smaller and as a result tend to order top tier trim cars that they demand top dollar for ( people do pay it) my current daily driver an 08 accent has a liscence built mitsu engine and it runs fine so for me its simple I would go for the outlander cause its got the better deal
in the video he kept saying the crosstrek's cvt would stay at like 3500 rpm and then shift down... its a cvt it doesn't shift unless you have it in manual mode. it stays at that rpm to give you the best power to get to the speed desired depending on how hard you us the gas pedal. i have a crosstrek myself and i love it. i test drove the nissan rouge with a cvt before buying my crosstrek and the cvt on that was horrible.
I think there is more to the price than the MSRP. Suburu almost never have any deals whereas Mitsubushi does all the time. For example, right now they have a $1500 cash bonus on the Outlander sport so the ES model with automatic is 17.3k whereas the cheapest automatic model of the suburu (2.0I premuim) is 22.7K. That's a 5.4 thousand dollar difference!!!!! (these are prices found using Truecar in the NYC area. )
True but not an AWD for that price- Its a FW drive to avoid confusion
Where I live a local dealer gets about 19k for AWD the price vs a subaru is closer to 3000 difference but thats still a big canyon plus like you said Mitsubishi constantly throws deals whereas subie dosent and in today's economy you want the most for your dollar
I'm impressed with Subaru's all-wheel-drive system. it performs better than my 04 Blazer 4 wheel drive system. I wish I could find a small SUV with a body on frame system. I want to have the options to be able to tow or put a snow plow on it. I wish there was a channel that someone did a old car review. I would like to see on how some of these cars hold up over time. I would like to see reviews of cars over two hundred and thousand miles and learn what type of issues the cars had through its lifetime
I have want a outlander sport since they first rolled out. I love the styling and the high content for ur buck.
They are deeply discounting these cars. My mitsubishi dealer just closed here in Chattanooga but I did finally stop by and test drive one
Thanks for the review. This past July I bought the Crosstrek. Your video played a roll in that purchase.
dude I love Subarus CVT. I have one and I have never experienced the problems that you are talking about.
At 3:45 I thought that there was a magnet stuck to the door and wondered what it did, Doh !
I'm curious about the warranty on the subaru. The rvr has a 10 year 160,000km warranty. That is a big selling feature in my opinion.
Just two questions. What do you mean by shifting while talking about the Subaru, there is no shifting in CVT since it doesn't have gears like traditional transmissions? The other is vibration from the accelerator pedal in the Mitsubishi, it's electronic, no throttle cable, what was making it vibrate?
Your friend is back, business never go like we think:D
I have to admit that when we were looking at vehicles in this segment I didn't even consider Mitsubishi.
I bought a 2014 Crosstrek Premium for my wife and a 2015 Crosstrek Limited for myself.
That is mostly based on the fact that you see lots of old Subarus on the road but not too many old Mitsus. I simply don't like how they age.
That being said I like the styling on the Outlander Sport! -Lose that colored band across the grill and make it all black grill. That would look badass.
What is also impressive is how well they integrated the sub woofer compared to Subaru's, which by comparison looks like they simply tossed a box into the back with no regard for how vehicles are used.
Very interesting comparison between the two vehicles.
***** Wow, that's kind of surprising for me to hear-I see old Mitsubishis on the road all the time. I see quite a few from Subaru too though. Most of the older cars I see though are usually from Honda, Nissan, or Toyota.
Great job guys, clear, concise, to the point. Thanks
Riverside State Park along the mighty Spokane River. In the early 80s I drove my '79 Subaru GL on the road on the opposite side of the river when it was closed during the winter. Now the road is permanently closed.
You lost me at “boxter”. *facepalm*
Americans are typically biased against Mitsu. I tested drive both cars and find Crosstek is a rougher ride with cheaper interior.
Its not a rough ride, it has stiffer suspension for better handling. Also, the interior isn't cheap, its utilitarian for outdoor enthusiasts... It's all about how you sell it :p lol
Interesting comparison guys! Are you going to review the upcoming CrossTrek Hybrid? It's supposed to have a little more boost at low rpm and quicker steering, from what I've read so far.
I'm a Mitsubishi fan, a huge Mitsubishi fan, but I struggle with the Outlander sport. It feels like it has no purpose. They should just make a lowered version of the Outlander and not cut off the back and rake the roof. The sport is just a bad car with bad visibility.
I don't like that the title says "Outlander" but the "Outlander Sport" was used. No problem with the content, just the title.
Lineartronic cvt was designed and refined to work efficiently with the Boxer 2.0l which allows for all around fuel efficiency 25.5 city and 33-35 hwy. I can speak to this because I own a My2017 yr model. Yes, the gas pedal here in our AZ Summers is kinda lack luster with the parocidic A/C in use..😄. But turn that bad boi off and you will have excellent powa with AWD to take you guilt free where you want to go!
-Love my Subaru Trek
Could you review the new 2014 Mitsubishi outlander sport?
This was 7 years ago, I gonna guess the Sube is still on the road and the Mitz is in the junkyard.
You may disagree, but you'd be wrong.
i just bought a 2013 subaru crosstrek and i’m so in love! got it for a great price and great shape
Not bad review, but as a Subaru XV owner I can tell you the MPG's are way out. The PZEV system works by running the engine at higher RPM's when it is cold, so this kills MPG's on short trips, (seriously you might only get 17 to 22 MPG if you do less than 5 miles,) and it is putting way more wear and tear on the engine. Also, when cold it seems to have much less power, so making left turns in my experience can be dangerous.
How was the wind noise on higher speed in those vehicles, like on highway, and if you can compare to HR-V too?
I Preffer Subaru XV.
Subaru XV have 4x4 wheel drive (AWD). with smart gearbox (X-Mode).
Also XV have Taft Steering System. Steering rack position are in the front of wheel center shaft. It protecting steering rack and the tierod from damage when the front wheel Lacing During driving over the road hole.
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Saya Pilih Subaru XV.
Subaru XV memiliki penggerak 4 Roda.(AWD) dengan memiliki gearbox yang cerdas (X-Mode).
Subaru XV Juga memiliki sistem stir yang tangguh. yakni posisi Rak Stir yang berada di depan dari titik tengah roda depan. posisi rak stir yang berada di depan titik roda akan melindungi rak stir dan tierod dari hantaman roda saat mobil melindas jalan berlubang.
Subaru all the way we have a 2001 Forester with 289K and it still runs great! I want a Crosstrek myself but I wont get the CVT. I would opt for the 5 speed.
Lol our mechanic keeps telling us our 2000 legacy is going to die soon. He's been saying that for 3 years. They just do t quit!
+EllysaE don't*
The outlander goes for 17 K with 5 spd manual transmission ! The Crosstrek is is 23 ! )
Haha, I felt as if this was a Evo vs. STI episode!
ikr the outlander's front looks like an evo 10
They should try my 2015 outlander sport. 2.4L 168 HP even better CVT
+Michael Hawkins Are you offering to loan us your ride for a week? :-) Dave
Lol only if you give me another car for a week and come to North Carolina.
Are you filming this in Spokane? I noticed the WA plate and was thinking it reminded me of my hometown..
+Levi McDonald Yes, I am based in Spokane. I've been producing car videos here for the last three years.
That's crazy. Ever since I moved to the west side, I've really missed bowl and pitcher. I thought I recognized that place!
I've had my Crosstrek for a week, I have not had tranny lag yet. Except for the smaller cargo area I like it better than my trade in Outback.
Do you have the manual or CVT? With the CVT there is a clear ~2 second lag when shifting between from Reverse to Drive or Park to Reverse.
Dark0blivion I have the 5 speed auto. I don't get a lag from R to D or P to R but I get some lag from 2nd to 3rd when using the paddles.
***** they offer it in 5spd auto?...thought they were all CVT?
There is no 5 speed auto in the Subie Crosstrek.
The Lineatronic CVT is offered in 4 and 5 speed. When mine is in manual mode it does go to 5.
Why is the Mitsubishi Oulander Sport named ASX in Europe?
You can get a sub put into the XV as an additional option they offer from Subaru!
Mitsubishi all the way. Much better reliabilty, lower cost to own and maintain. My old Outback was fine but way more costly to maintain than my Mitsu.
I have 2013 ASX but i know the Forester is better.
Thanks for the review.
Outlander? Isn't it an RVR?
just totaled my 2011 lancer gts...looking at the outlander sport gt any recommendations on the best bang for buck? Torn b/w outlander sport & escape
whats up with Ebay sound at 2:16 ? lol
Yeah really.
I had to check my tablet then rolled the video back to double check.
***** Me too lool !
How'd you boys make the sunroof so big?
really good video - thanks for reposting.
Yeah Jason is coming to get them and it's not even Friday the 13th.
Comparing suv vs hatchback ?
that heavy breathing tho
oil consumption problem subaru xv???
Sooroshusa , que extraño que Subaru venda tres veces mas STI que Mitsubishi su EVO tanto que practicamente lo saco del mercado
That is Mistubishi RVR everywhere else in the world not "outlander sport"
You know the announcer isn't a true car enthusiast when he says the subaru has a boxter engine... Sorry, but can you please explain to me how this marvelous boxter engine works? Is it just a miniaturized porsche convertible as a powerplant???
how about a comparison between EVO and STI and see who wins. obviously EVO.
Depend the year, 1999 to 2009 and 2014-15 STI and WRX is champ and 2010 to 2013 Evo was the champ...
sorooshusa Even though they're the same class of cars, they're not really a good comparison. The EVO is heavily computerized, while the STI in comparison is archaic. That doesn't mean the STI is bad by any means, but the driver is getting far less assistance.
Maybe things have changed though. It's been a while since I've seen what features either of them have. Subaru in general has simpler vehicles (in an electronic perspective) compared to their competition, regardless of class.
The XV is to expensive for the size of the vehicle.
It would have been a more thorough/accurate review if you had actually tested real life MPG.
LOL
do you have a video of the xv at the orv park?
Mike Edgeworth Have you searched my channel?
If you had one choice which one would take Be honest which one would you take. I say the Outlander.
The Subaru actually has fake shift points because the trans was so smooth. Seems the consumer wanted to feel like it was shifting. The Subaru is quiet, smooth to the point of making one think its slightly underpowered which it really isn't. Winter driving with the Subaru is without compare.. Mitsubishi is a fine car but needs a few more years to evolve.
This guy definitely doesnt know what a cvt is, cvt's don't shift at all. Any "shift points" are just to make them feel more traditional, its all computer controlled.
Subaru transmissions actually fake shift. Making them feel more natural.
+Dylan Piekarski natural to what? Cause it's not natural for cvt to shift. It's an issue with people not being able to handle change. Even giving up the benefits of a cvt just to feel better.
The shifting only happens when you ask it to aka: you put it in sport mode or whatever. And it makes it more natural in the sense that you actually feel it doing something, rather than just sit at high Revs forever and not go any faster when you need it to. Most cvt's, with the acception of Subaru and actual performance oriented versions, are slow at outright acceleration. And everyone wants the efficiency of cvt's, there is no argument about that, but to what cost of driving performance, and enjoyment? If you buy a vehicle with the more powerful version of an engine, you want the better performance, not the efficiency. Long story short, adding the shift points gives people more enjoyment while still allowing better efficiency.
Dylan Piekarski I can assure you as an owner of a 2015 impreza, it doesn't give you a choice. Even cars with Xmode will still fake shift in every setting. they just change the way it fakes the shifts and what rpm it sits at.
fuck that. when I get on the freeway and get to 55 and the car goes from 5k rpm and drops by 1k rpm give or take(it's never the same) I lose power, I feel the car lag and I have to bring it back up again. it's frustrating because I know I could be to speed quicker then the software is allowing the engine. CVT's would be fun as fuck if they didn't fake shift, resulting in moments of lower power output.
The absolute only time I can get it to keep a steady rpm while gaining is on a flat and at 2.5k since there isn't any room for it to drop the rpm. at 3k it will still do it though and drop off about 500-700rpm. It's a pain for me and others who understand what an engine could do if this was not holding it back.
I'm fine with Xmode, I'm 100% ok with having options. but for those who buy base models or don't want fake shifts, they should give us nothing but pure CVT experience. I would be ecstatic to have a car I can hold at an rpm while gaining then have a magic button to do fake shifts or low for simulated low gear off road (which they all have). but no option.. it's a mistake.
lolz why u never put boot cover on the subaru xv
Drive the manual transmission Mitsubishi and you'll change your mind. I just hate that AWD only came with cvt tranny's 👎
Mitsu all day everyday
They didn't mention a big point between the subaru and Mitsubishi. Subaru comes standard with and. Mitsubishi is an extra option
+Dylan Piekarski Yes, the Subaru comes standard with AWD.
Also suby comes standard with reliability; in Mitsu it's not even an option
Lol
Lmao subi and reliable , maby 5 years from now with that oil burner
@@HarvinderSandhuEsq More reliable than a simple Mitsu? Hardly, Ive owned both brands. The Subie was a better performer but also had shittier CVT programming, blown head gaskets, and cost alot more to maintain. Mitsubishis simply cosy alot less to maintain.
Reviews sounded more opinionated but good video.
Yea... I'd go with the Subaru as well. (Actually already did, twice!)
It looks like Mitsubishi RVR
stop saying refinement!!! Thanks for the review
Subaru really needs to hire someone who knows transmissions. As long as I can remember they have lacked in that department.
in europe Mitsubishi Outlander look total diferent ... Mitsubishi Outlander is an ASX here
Just reading what the EPA numbers are? the whole point about giving a review is experiences based off your real world findings. Gas mileage is a big one these days. Drives like a Subaru sounds like the old time reviewers who crooned about Chevys.
So what, if you want to "go with the Subaru" then pay more and go with it.
Isn't that the Mitsubishi RVR?
I am guessing you are Canadian ? They call it Outlander Sport in U.S !
Yes, Canadian here. I had no idea that's what its called in US. I pictured the Outlander Sport to be a faster version of the Outlander like the Forester and Forester XT.
Ben88
oh omg this makes so much sense ..
you're not going to get quality and refinement in a Ford, my family has 2 fords and a toyota. hate to say it but i wont buy another ford due to lack of quality.
Митсубиси хорошо👍🇰🇬🇰🇬
got to 2 minutes 9 seconds and was utterly disappointed.
Funny I bough a Subaru and the Mitsubishi after have both cars
WTF i just saw a review of that outlander but in grey and that one is blue with the same license plates 202 Californian LicencePlate o,o
I would assume they're just dealer plates
Let's get this real.....subaru is a problem once it hits 100k.....headgasket or oil leak by the headgasket .....I rather feel vibration ....then unreliable..
mic is hot.
Brilliant review ... !!
Subaru is not a BOXSTER...
it's a BOXER....SMFH.
Estas pruebas de manejo no son ningun parametro pues el Subarú esta hecho tanto para confort y calidad de manejo en carretera como en off road donde el Mitsubishi nunca llegaria , pero nada de eso se ve Nadie compra un Subarú con su sistema de traccion solo para ir al supermercado o viajar solo por asfalto Este comparativo es un sin sentidio
IT ISN'T AN OUTLANDER!
I know that guy farted
en los montañas y no offload test? hijole
Subaru = more trucklike stiff ride without body roll.
Subaru AWD is not as good offroad as the Mitsubishi.
I disagree.
@@everymandriver You know what they say about opinions..... :)
You might want to take a look at TFL channel and the Subaru failing on gold mine hill that the Mitsubishi and Jeep crossovers made with no issue.
I can't say the Mitsubishi is better in all situations, but I watched a Crosstrek get hopelessly stuck in deep sand that an Outlander Sport went right through.
Both cars had Yokohama Geolander tires, so it wasn't the tires and if anything, the Subaru driver was more skilled.
Subaru may be better in some situations on road, but seeing the TFL video and how it gets stuck in sand.
I think off road has to be the Mitsubishi.
Love your channel, by the way.
Every time you say "oh-blank" handle, I get a chuckle.
Wife says you have a sexy voice.
@@mushroomcloud1 I respect your reply. Thank you for the info!