CHEAP TIRES VS BRAND NAME TIRES (WHAT SHOULD I BUY!)
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Just having brand new tires in general is a blessing
megadethGUY M amen. Ive been buying used for years
@@johnhonest9347 So if nobody buy new u will never buy used ones.
So be grateful people still buy new ones
Greatdreams yeah let them take the hit. My corvette grand sport ran me 25k I’m happy
@@johnhonest9347 Having a corvette and like to buy used ones , i drive a chevy 2005. I still buy new ones for it , my safety and driving comfort comes first.
You starement sound like those who likes to buy new cars and cannot afford for the gas and car payment
Greatdreams wooooah my comments went to the wrong video. That’s why. I was thinking I was posting to the herts video where they are selling corvettes for 65k. Disregard my second comment. For my corvette I buy new. I have lion hearts on them. Car ID got me the staggered fit tires for $400 with purchase of rims. Sorry bout that. So used tires for my work van if one goes flat. As for my vette new. And honestly I can barely afford the payment now and days with corona but I have 80,000 smiles on that car... oops miles. Jaydrivin. Is my Ig if u wanna see for yourself.
My Coopers are made in the USA and cost me $98 per tire. They are considered to be "mid grade" tires and are a good trusted "name brand" tire.
Mine cracked after 3 years and they were not baked in the sun living in the UK, not a good experience with them.
@@mirola73 mine are still mounted on the rims and doing well.
I don't know about anybody else but that slurping every time he breathes driving me nuts in this video
ME TOO!!!!! I thought, "damn....sounds like he's drooling over everything and everybody around him"!
@ Good thing for him that tires don't RUST!!! :-)
It drives your nuts.?
lmao ... i thought the same thing ..
Made me close the video! Sounds disturbing!!!!!
I recently bought a set of Starfire WR's for my Genesis sedan (sub-brand of Cooper made in China) and they are absolutely fantastic so far. Smoother riding than the BFGoodrich's I replaced and much quieter. I can't say how good the tread life will be yet but so far I am very impressed with these cheap China-made tires. Got a set of four 235/50R18's from Kauffman installed for $375! That's just a fantastic deal and I have no regrets whatsoever! Will be buying cheap tires from now on for sure. Unless you are tracking your car or driving a lot in very inclement weather, spending boat loads of money on premium brand tires is just a waste of money.
Hard to believe he thinks "meeting safety requirements" and price are the only considerations.
What are the others? If it's safe and affordable, why not?
@@humansvd3269 specs!
@@Daniel-tv9tb safety is the first and foremost thing it should meet. Then price. Anything after that is extra.
Warranty, comfort and shorter braking distant.
@@ynestroza95 braking distance is part of safety. if you want shorter braking distances don't drives too fast and pay attention to where you are driving.
When a tire meets DOT's (or Canada's version) requirements, they are meeting MINIMUM requirements. Saying these tires meet DOT's requirements is not a selling point. if you have a beater that needs tires and you don't do much hwy driving, get the el cheepos. If it's on a nice car or truck, your children, wife or someone else you love is driving, get the good tires.
Check the mfg dates on whatever tires you get. Do not except any tires beyond 1 year from mfg date unless you are certain you are going to wear them out before they are 5 years old.
And for those of you watching this in lower part of the lower 48, buy name brand tires! They last longer in the heat, separate less and balance better. Hey Hillyard rim, please provide the road force readings of a name brand vs a no name brand (First spin, before balance). Explain how high road force effects longevity of the tire, suspension and steering components not to mention provides a less than stellar ride and are more subject to belt separation.
About me, just a tech in a hot climate area of the lower 48. I "HATE" buying and installing tires and suspension components (for myself). I buy one tire brand and have for years. My tires normally "time" out before they wear out. I also road force the tires with a goal of 10 pounds or less of road force. Most tires will be under 10 pounds on the first spin. I also road force balance every 20,000 miles.
It drives me a little nuts to see we are still selling UTQG Temperature B and C tires in the USofA. If the tire companies could increase traction so much that the DOT had to create an AA Traction rating then why can't the tire companies get all the tires to perform at the A Temperature level. Maybe we need an AA Temperature rating to incentivize them. Michelin Defender T&H tires are a perfect example of this. A UTQG of AB on one of your most important tires? Now I suspect that the real performance of the Michelin Defender T&H is UTQG AA, but they are being conservative and underpromising just in case something something, but other companies really are at the minimum of the B temperature performance range. As you state that is not great in the summer heat driving up I-95 or I-75.
I work in a dealership that sells those exact firestones as a winter tire package. and let me tell you, they are junk! They dry rot in less than 3 seasons of use, and they're extremely prone to punctures. They wear quickly and unevenly. And being the guy who gets to install them, i'll tell you that I'll never run firestone tires in my life. All personal opinions, of course. But that's my view on this topic.
that's why almost 100 years later ford dropped them you are 100 % right on that . letz see 1980s Firestone 500 then ford explorer in 90s had wilderness tire that separated tread they should have been in the wilderness as a planter !!!
@@bradb5445 😆
Dude! For someone so "knowledgeable" you only know the sales aspect of selling tires. I worked for Bridgestone for 6 years, not only in the tire plants but also in the corporate office. While working in corporate I hit every Bridgestone/Firestone plant in the US. Including 2 of the rubber and synthetics plants. There's a lot more that goes into the name brand tires than just rubber.
The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell. And they sell a lot of them! They wear a long time but they are very noisy on the highway (I've owned 2 sets). The synthetics/rubber mix is not the same as the us brands which is why they are cheaper and the technology in all Chinese tires is not as good as US name brands. They sell those tires in the Chinese market too. Not to add comfort to driving but because the compound is different because the roads are not as good as here. It's the same for all Chinese brands.
The Firestones you show come from the Joliette, Quebec plant. Not China.
Question: Do you know what the painted strip means on those tires???
Alicia Akes hi thanks for your feedback and info, what does those stripes mean?
On US built tires, the color strip (1) indicate which OEM gets certain tires from production runs You could have 3 different production lines creating those Firestone's in the same facility (Joliette) but only one line is applying the red strip to the tire before curing. Stripped tires get inspected at least twice by hand before being matched with other tires of similar weight and balance. Every wonder why the new set that came on a new car lasted longer than tires in a tire store? That's why.
As far as getting stripped tires in an aftermarket store, Tires Plus, Firestone Care, Tire Rack, your store and others, those are rejected OEM tires made for the US market. There's nothing wrong with them other than maybe a small blemish on the side wall or not all of a letter filled out in the press. That's it. I have stripped tires (Bridgestone's) I bought from Firestone Care on both my cars. I requested them when I bought them.
Stripped tire marking is used for OEM manufactured tires from all the major tire producers in the US supplying them to the auto production lines.
Stripped tires from overseas have similar meanings. Since they won't always be applied to US production cars, one strip will indicate it's going to the US, others could indicates which facility it's from or materials mix in the tire. Really unknown about the Chinese produced tires.
My only knock against Chinese produced tires is they are usually loud on the highway, don't ride well regardless of the tread design and tend to wear quickly if balance and alignment are out. Other than that, they wear like iron and will last the designed miles (i.e. 40-60K). They're great for first time drivers! You can hit curbs, speed bumps, debris on the road they still go.......and are cheap to replace when they do split a sidewall.
Alicia Akes wow!!! Informative!! Send us your contact info! Would love to connect about tires!
"The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell." Ok on Tire Rack I am seeing tht the Bridgestone DriveGuard tires are from France. Is that information incorrect?
Thank you for your knowledgeable advise. What about Crosspro YS71 ? Are they good ?
OK, I have done both. Bought cheap Walmart tires and then bought better
Bridgestone tires. My present cars are a Nissan 350Z and the other is an Infiniti Q60S.
These cars have performance suspensions and are not your average family sedans. With these cars, the quality of tires makes a huge difference in handling and ride. Now, on a Ford Ranger beater I had, there was little difference between the cheap Walmart Chinese
tires and something like a Bridgestone because the Ranger was much more forgiving with respect to it's suspension. As for the number of miles tires go, it has to do with the type. All weather, Summer, Touring, etc. There is a tread wear rating on tires. Higher tread wear rating tend to be less grippy and last longer where as low tread wear rated gummy summer tires are great for handling, but do not last as long. I like to stick with OEM or higher quality tires for the particular car or truck. Doing it on the cheap generally nets less then desired results with respect to handling and the longevity of the tires. It is always best to check the type and size of tires on a car you plan to purchase. That new Infiniti with the 19" wheels may look cool, but when it comes time to replace those tires, be prepared for that $1000 bill, where as the base models with 18" or 17" tires may only cost $600 for a new set.
A friend got rid of the OEM tires on his Infiniti car and replaced them with the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3s. He said it was like the difference between night and day when driving in the rain.
In Germany we have the ADAC. An Automobile Club that tests every Spring and Autumn the new generation of Tyres. There are huge differences between different types and brands when it comes to braking in wet conditions or speed in Corners. I would rather drive no car, than to buy a cheap tyre. Barum (a daughter of Continental) is a good budget with a high Quality. Everything below increases risk. And not YOUR risk - but everyone else’s risk. A difference of five meters in braking is the difference between a happy holiday or a tragic Christmas.
For God's sake remove your camera from the kangaroo's back!
Kangaroo's back! Hahahaha. You are so funny!
lol
i am getting dizzy watching this
Sorry i move the camera a lot. I get exciting talking about tires.lol!
😅😅😅😅
I wouldn't buy Chinese tires. But I've bought brand names like Cooper, General (Continental), Falken, Yokohama, BF Goodrich. Will be purchasing Toyo Proxes soon.
All held up very well except for the Yokohama's, which surprised me quite a bit.
Bottom line, do your research. It's not just about the brand, but specific models of a brand based on what type of conditions you need them to perform in. The best feedback will always be from people that actually have them and experience them firsthand. Not from a salseman.
some brand tires are made in china as well.
Stuff made in US is actually put together in the US but with global parts( made in china lol).
people think they are not buying stuff from china. Can you achieve that goal? I doubt it.
the electronics appliances clothings cookwares led bulbs car parts even oem car parts you name it...
oh forgot one thing the glass frames( costs store maybe 5-10 bucks shipped from china and sells to you for 300-500 bucks lol )
those are all made in china.
if you are really not buying stuff from china you are not leaving your home cause u will be looking for ur underwear suit ties hats gloves socks and you cant even lock your home because locks are also made in china lol.
so you are calling ur boss you will miss the work today oh no cellphobe is made in china too.
@@yz8302 😆
I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA.
Haha!
Great famous performance with a big famous name.
It actually drives pretty good.
Everything went south👎👇
In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me.
Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter.
They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment.
They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?"
Guess what ?
I said " YES".
He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ."
They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me.
The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation.
Guess what? The same tire dressing question?
He ask me do I use any tire shine products again.
I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question.
If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires.
If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires.
It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim.
Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim.
I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim.
No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty.
I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me.
Michelin no longer sell the Premier MXV4 after 5 years.
The worst expensive tire experience.
It's not just tyres, all heavily advertised products carry a price premium. I've had Kumho tyres on a heavy, powerful car for some months and am quite happy with them having saved quite some money.
Kumho haven't really taken off in the UK yet, I'm going to try some on my car before the price gets hiked up. Saving a lot of money on the factory fitted Continental tyres. The only difference according to the spec is the very slightly less efficient fuel economy, which doesn't bother me as I don't drive vast distances. Looking forward to trying them.
I live in NZ , South Pacific . I swear by the big name tyre companies for reliability and safety on the road . A lot of modern cars require good sporting designs in road holding and wet weather driving , which I have had the fortunate Australian designed Ford and Holden ( GM ) and they certainly need to be shod with great performance tyres to be able to handle whatever road surface they travel on . The cheapo Chinese ones I bought one year , were so terrible , they were sliding on corners , I had to take it easy and nurse the car for half of the tyres life , because that`s how long it took to scrub the nylon / rubber , so that it was safe to drive !! Never again ! I couldn`t take them back as we were heading away for the Xmas break , everything was shut for the week . Gave the Tyre Shop a bloody mouthful when I got back and never dealt with them again !
Do some subjective tests for acceleration, braking, and cornering. You will see where that money is going besides the plate glass windows.
BreadAndGatorade yeah I wanna see how these things handle on water.
Acceleration, braking, and cornering grip are relatively low priority for most normal drivers. We are generally talking about All-Season tires that just need to be safe. You don't need P-Zero grip to have a safe tire. Now if you are tracking your car you probably care a lot about grip, but in day-to-day commuting basically any DOT rated tire has plenty of raw grip to be considered safe.
@@MegaTechpc except that emergency when you need all that performance
@@MegaTechpc that’s the words considered safe I much prefer to have a tire that can handle emergency braking much better A couple of feet can make the difference of hitting a kid on the street or not always choose something that’s over engineered so your never pushing the product to it’s breaking point
On my previous 2012 BMW e70 35d i got only 19K miles out of 21" ridiculously expensive Michelin Pilot super Sports. Fronts were OK, rear tires were done. Swapped to some Indonesian cheap tires, they were much louder but after 20k miles Accelera PHI tires were like new, just started to brake in. It was hard to balance though, took to more than few shops to balance them, finally Germain BMW in Naples ,FL was able to balance them close to specs. Indonesian tires were 75% less of what Michelin was charging for the same set at the time. Handling on Indonesian tires to my surprise was also on par with Michelin Super Sports, very good grip on dry, and very good handling during Florida thunderstorms, mine were 285 fronts and 325 rears.
I purchased a set of Radar Dimax AS-8 all season tires. And they are by far MUCH better then the OEM Michelin Latitude Tour HP's that came on my 2015 Lincoln MKC AWD. They are XL (extra load) rated which is better then the SL (standard load) Michelin's i had. They are also rated higher being 101V as opposed to my old Michelin's which were 97V. And tread wear is 60K for these Radar tires and 55k for my old Michelin's. The Radar load rating is also higher at 1819lbs vs the Michelin's 1609lbs. And then the biggest difference was in tread wear life with the Radar's at 600AA vs the Michelin's 440AA rating. I also considered the Milestar MS932 Sport tires. However, i came to find out through much research reading online reviews about how noisy they were. And thankfully i'm NOT finding that to be a problem with these Radar brand tires. My Lincoln is pretty damn quiet anyway as it is a luxury SUV with a lot of sound deadening. But regardless of that i still didn't want to put out money for a noisy tire. Especially on a $40k vehicle.
Thanks for your nice review!
What's the wear rating? What's the traction rating? What's the temp. rating?
Why waste your time with those worthless ratings
You get what you pay for. make sure you look at ratings, reviews ...etc. While safety is priceless, the difference in price could be more than justified by the difference in tire life and fuel economy.
geniuspharmacist: Apparently you learned nothing from this video.
Really?
I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA.
Haha!
Great famous performance with a big famous name.
It actually drives pretty good.
Everything went south👎👇
In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me.
Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter.
They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment.
They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?"
Guess what ?
I said " YES".
He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ."
They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me.
The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation.
Guess what? The same tire dressing question?
He ask me do I use any tire shine products again.
I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question.
If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires.
If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires.
It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim.
Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim.
I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim.
No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty.
I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me.
I paid $ for my bad experience.
I purchase mile star tires after replacing name brand (good year) tires after owning for one year and they crapped out. Drove 3 years with the mile star no issues.
From then I bought high performance achilles tires for my STI I had no issues.
I ain't going to lie Michelin tires probably the best brand tires I have used way too pricey. Just buy what you can afford and read the reviews.
Do some research on tires, meaning the DOT specs, heat, traction, load range, (not tread wear that is a number set by the manufacturer only relative to their own tires not competitors), match these specs to your automobile manufacturers specs for your automobile. I've researched tires for years, right now I have tires on my Ford F 150 from Tire Rack that are made for them from some far east country, 50,000 mile warrantee have over 60,000 now and still good. My wifes new F 250 came with Michelin and with only 30,000 will need new tires before another 10,000 miles. Name brand doesn't mean anything.
The number of miles a tire lasts is only 1 metric of a tire. I don’t know shit about pick up truck tires but my favorite car tire (Michelin Pilot Sport) sticks to the road like glue (wet or dry) and handles great. If I get 20k miles out if a set, I’m pleased. I could put tires on my car with a 50k mile tread warranty but in an emergency braking or steering event, I’m thankful I’ve got the sticky, high performance tires to save my ass (and my car) instead of the high mileage warranty tires that might not keep me out of an accident. Thankfully I haven’t been in an emergency situation in my car recently but I have great peace of mind with those tires mounted on my wheels that the deck is stacked in my favor should an emergency present itself.
You can't compare unless you cut them and examine the profile. Check the bead, check the radial threading, check the inner and outer walls.
Bro stop shaking the camera so much
I bought a set of 33x12.50 sport king at tires,,,, Chinese tires I know but they lasted 5 years and all balanced with less than an ounce of weight.
I gotta chime in. I have used Continental tires on my car since the day I bought it. It came with them, I get 45,000 miles out of a set. One time and ONLY ONE TIME we went to Pep Boys because money was tight and got Futura tires. Loud junk. I currently run GoodYear Assurance on it now because Amazon was too good to pass up.
But that is what those brands are for. They meet the minimum USofA DOT specifications to keep you going. I helped a person out and Discount tire would not patch one of her worn out tires. The others had various states of bad wear. I took the deal for the lowest cost 4 new tires they had. She got something with decent tread depth. Sure they will not last more than two years, but it is better than driving on bald tires with sidewall bubbles.
Goodyear assurance tires suck they came on my Malibu that I bought brand new
I sold Cooper, Hankook, Michelin, Goodyear, Firestone, Kumo. Have to say if I was going to buy tires. It was always mid grade. Seemed to me they wore longed for me.
So what brand are the mid ranges?
Brand names also do more sponsoring. The cost of sponsoring is picked up by the consumer
Your right , I need American made tires.
I think this video has just seal my faith on putting infinity 245/45r18 tire on my 04 Infiniti G35 ✌
Always check the DOT date stamped into the tire! Usually tire sales are on tires that are getting too close to lifetime end which is 10 years! DOT numbers are read if they say 2318 they were made on 23rd week of 2018!
Good info 🤟
I had Kumho tires on my car and exchanged them now with Continental after 7 years. It is such a huge difference in better driving and safety feeling. I would go for the brand.
And Kumho is usually much better already than unknown (budget) brands.
In my opinion kumho its better
In my personal experience
Best all season: Michelin
Best winter tires: Continental
NEVER EVER buy Firestone garbage.
I agree! My experience with Firestone has been ALL bad. 721’s fell apart. FR480 disintegrated first time I hit 100 KPH.
Now you tell me!
I d say all way around 😁. Michelin winter and Continental summers! 💙
AGREED! I've never seen anything good come from Firestone. My friend's 2018 2500 Cummins wore out it's OE Transforce HTs in 11k miles with nothing but highway miles. I always see them come into the shop either bald or so cupped the owner couldn't stand it. Same goes for Goodyear.
In my experience Coopers are the worst ever
I only buy used tires. I've never had a blowout. It would suck to buy new tires then lose the car to a wreck 1 week later.
I put cheap ass tires on my EX’s car and kicked her out the door. Stoping distance from 100ft to 135ft.
Bought Chinese tires before I went on a 1600 mile trip From Houston to El Paso Texas by the end of the trip lost all 4 !!! No more Chinese Tires for me.
That sucked. The only tire brand I heard of do worse was an American tire brand, named TreadWright, but the tires are not new, they're remolds. Someone on RUclips posted a video in which he lost all four tires before having to refuel his fuel tank. I feel comfortable with buying non-American tires, but one Chinese tire I can definately, positively say to stay away from is a brand called Sailun.
MrMaz111 Branded well known tyres are always the best , they probably come with a guarantee anyway. I remember years ago Esso use to make to make tyres, and even if they got damaged by running over glass or a nail they would replace the tyre in three months no quibble or there after give you a discount on another new one depending on the tread depth. Who remembers Esso tyres?
Had one band new Chinese tire on a trailer I was towing through Canada to Alaska. It frigg'n blew apart on me just as I was getting into Edmonton. Got of the hwy to look and it started pouring rain. Yeah, Chinese tires. NO MORE.
Another consideration for cheap tires is private label tires. 2 years ago I was replacing my spare tire on my 2009 Toyota Tacoma and went to Peerless tires (a regional tire shop chain known for selling cheap tires). For $100usd out the door I got a Delta all terrain tire. Delta tires is a private label brand and it turns out this tire was made in the USA in a Cooper tires factory. Cooper all terrain tires for my Tacoma usually run $150+/- a piece.
yeah watch out on those Coopers, depending on size and style, Made in EITHER: US. Mexico, Portugal or China... "ya feelin' lucky?" -- Dirty Harry
All 4 of my Sumitomo tires are cupping and are total shit. So no, lots of chinese tire manufactures cut corners. I now have to replace all of them. Nothing wrong with my suspension or alignment. My mechanic examined everything and the determination, is my tires are garbage. You be the judge.
I'm an old school motorhead and only buy Continental tires, the "Contact" series exclusively. I had to throw out a whole set of 1/4 worn Coopers off my Jeep and Cross Contacts just came out. They're made by computer in Mexico in a completely automated factory. And today have a 91% best brand rating at Tire Rack. And Tire Rack should know, they've sold gazillions of tires of every brand; quite possibly to your own shop. That review is based on people who have actually bought the tires. Not some "experts" opinion. Over the years, since "Contacts" first came out, I've had about 20 sets and have never had a single problem with any one of them. That's the first thing I do when I buy a car. Even a new car, is put a set of Connies on it and don't worry about it. And I've done that with 1 new car and 2 new Jeeps now. Most new cars come with 28 dollar tires. Really. You can't even buy them and they're usually shot in 20,000 miles. Many of my "Contact" tires were purchased at Tire Rack because they're hard to find. And if they have them, you have them within a week. And their tread designs are excellent and have DWS imprints on the 2nd rib. (dry, wet, snow) When the S disappears, it's no longer rated for snow. When the W disappears, it's no longer rated for wet weather. When the D disappears the tire is worn out. I know of no other manufacturer that does this and these are 70,000 mile tires. I even have a pair of Teva sandals for my feet with Continental tire bottoms on them. Don't ask me. I've only had one flat tire out of over 90 tires and it was a nail. From Cross Contacts for my SUV's and Jeeps, to Extreme Contacts for my cars and Hot Rods. Continental's are the only tires I trust, or buy, and I'm currently running 4 sets of them. And when you're running 4 sets of tires, you better be sure. I Have more trouble with my rims than I do my tires. Modern factory alloy rims start corroding the day you get them and the valve stems start leaking. They have to hone out the hole and glue them in. Really, I'm not making this up, you'll see. All the rest of the major tire manufacturers are garbage. If you see a huge dent in your sidewall, it's not NORMAL like your dealer says; that tire is junk and isn't even round. They bounce when you drive down the road and wear your struts and suspension bushings out. That is also why you can't balance them properly. Cooper really disappointed me and Good Year has always been junk. Except in Semi Trucks: Michelin and Bridgestone are the most over rated tires there are. In the winter, Michelin's are useless and won't even let you leave your own driveway. Just ask my brother. And Firestone and Uniroyal? Are they even still in business? They shouldn't be. Dunlop makes excellent Motorcycle tires and that's about it. Pirelli makes good tires, and they wear out so fast you have to replace them every year, or even twice. They're only good for 7,000 miles. NOT 70. Continentals are standard equipment on many European cars and should be on all cars. They're weight rated for the car you buy them for, so they always ride very smooth. But hey, that just the opinion of one old school motorhead, who's been around the block a few times. Take free advice for what it's worth.
Bought 4 tires from Amazon for $250. My car is 14 years old so it could fail at any time so I don't want to take a chance and buy high end tires for $600. I don't drive in snow so I just need some good sticky rubber for the dry season.
i would need to know the max miles per each brand.. the higher priced may be warranted .. say 70.000 miles.. the middle tire may only be warranted for say 45.000 miles and lower miles for the lowest price tire.. that also makes a big difference in my decision.. think about it..
I have Saliun ice blazer on my edge and they are good tire in the snow good on wet pavement and quiet on the hwy. I would buy them again no problem.
Best tires I've ever owned were General and Continental (same company). Personally I like tires from a company I can sue if they fail and I get killed.
How tf you sue when dead?
id loveto see u sue as u say when your dead ! the judge will say will the corpse rise !!
Yeah like to see that also thatd be a cool trick
HAHAHA
He will sue them when dead he meant after life
This guy is full of contradictions. Get no name tires ,get brand name tires. All tires conform to Transport Canada or at least they should, but there is a difference between cheap tire and Brand name tires.Safety and ride comfort.
I had a set of cheap Chinese winter tires given free with my leased Honda Civic. The tread made an awful racket on all road surfaces and the sidewalls seemed to be unstable on icy surfaces. I had zero confidence in them and bought a set of Michelin x-ice tires to replace them.They may save money, they may be certified for use, but there is no way I'm putting my life on the line with substandard rubber.
Big difference in tire construction, rubber compound, tread design. I had some Chinese tires on my car when I bought it-they looked good, very similar to other tires. But they had a tendency to skid under heavy braking, squeal on cornering, and rode rough. Then I changed to Michelin tires-WOW what a difference. Felt like I was riding on soft rubber, quieter, never broke loose no matter how hard I brake (except for slamming brake pedal), and stuck to the ground like suction cups. I used to be a big truck salesman. Michelin makes 50 (yes fifty) different models of big truck tires with different tire tread patterns, rubber compounds, belt build for specifically different trucking styles. Chinese tires? All me too-look good but who knows how they are built-and yes they still come up to US and Canadian on road safety standards. With tires, you get what you pay for.
True, but I still cannot believe that Michelin will not give up trying to sell unidirectional tires for eighteen wheel tractor trailers or similar trucks. What trucking company wants to deal with the costs of keeping tires rotating in one particular direction? Bridgestone tried doing asymmetrical non-directional steer tires for a while, but I think they gave that up.
Ok Boomer michellin man
There have been near countless tests proving the cheaper tyres on the whole do not perform the same as the big established brands.
Trying to say that all these tests, many here on you tube, are not fair, rubbish, etc. etc. is incorrect.
I usually go for mid brands, just a little more expensive than budget, but much better performance getting close to the big boys, but much cheaper.
Passing Safety standards compared too quality and longevity are 2 different things. The problem is that you never know until its tried and tested
Never had good luck with firestone tires. There was a brand new set of Firestone’s on my van when I bought it wasn’t even two years later the belts had already shifted. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problems. Bought a 2012 civic car wasn’t even three years old lots of tread on the tires all cracked firestone again. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problem. As far as the China tires and sailun tires i’ve had great luck with those on different cars and trucks never had a problem with them. That’s just my experience over the last 43 years of driving. As far as I’m concerned Michelin is the top dog on the pile. Most highway trucks have Michelin‘s on the front steer axle that should tell you something because you don’t want a blow out on the front or you could end up upside down.
US tire are higher because Unions. Not putting down unions but they add cost to the final price
When I’m rolling down the the freeway, at 70 MPH, I’ve used nothing but Michelin’s.
It's true that the extra $40/tire of the name brand item is partially advertising & marketing costs. But the rest also goes into research & development to help improve tread life and ride/handling qualities. So, in this case you'll end up saving $160 but you'll probably get about 1/2 the tread life from the cheaper tires so you haven't saved anything in the long run. Not to mention the poorer ride quality you'll probably experience on the cheaper tires toward their end of tread life. In short, if you plan on keeping the car longer term buy the best tire you can afford, otherwise just buy the cheap ones.
only one tire brand in this video has been proven to kill people (over 150!) and had to pay for it...firestone. this isn't to say they are bad tires now, they aren't, and this was over 2 decades ago. it just shows you our own standards and testing are not infallible.
@@jasonfrank9806 the problem was fixed
@@Countcho read what I said again and tell me how your reply contributes anything new.
I’ve been using China and Thailand made tires for years now. Winters, summer performance, and mud terrain tires. They’re hundreds less and perform great. I won’t buy big name brands anymore. You can get all of them in 10 and some in 12 ply. Nothing wrong with them, not sure why they get bashed by a lot of people.
he is right. ive bought the knock off brand with the same specs as oem. they always wear evenly and don't lose air.
I bought cheaper, mid-level tires for my SUV and I totally happy--saved $300.
Timonius G yeahh same here .. someone poked out my tires with a blade after I just got new perallis P7s.. I couldn’t afford brand name tires so I stuck it out with some federal ss tires... not bad saves 💸
@@richbenz4246 wtf... What did you do that had someone coming to poke your new tires ?????
When it comes to brands you will always find people who love them and those who hate them. It's true of more expensive brands and of less expensive. Search the ones you can afford,read reviews,discard what seems like bullshit reviews,then make the most informed choice of what's in your budget. If you aren't proud of the purchase then just have the white lettering put to the inside and drive away knowing it's the best you could do at the time.
I go buy certain people in the business a lifetime they will say the cheaper tires will only last half as long.
You are not always paying for brand name only on brand name tyres. Technology on the brand tyres is usually significantly ahead of the no name tyres. No brand companies usually can't afford all the r&d required to make a good tyre thus they don't invest in it. Usual they construct tyres on the basics and wait for the tech to trickle down from the brand tyres. One of the areas no name tyre companies usually skimp on is the lifetime testing. Usually the no name brand can perform well when new before performance fades dramatically as it ages.
Tires have ratings as well. H, V, etc.. It has to do with the durability of the carcass and speed ratings. Generally the higher speed rating on the tire, the stronger the carcass.
I had Firestone tires on my new suv , almost killed me and wife, never again
you sound like a bad driver Bob stay safe...
@@CarsonFM No I don't think I am bad driver, had Firestone tire on my Ford explorer it came with the explorer, it was Eddie Bauer model , I bought new in 1995 had it for 6 weeks rear tire blow out , firestone had a big big recall on tires then. L'ii never bought firestone ties after that. I serviced and sold tires for 20 years.
Someone get this guy a glass of water he's got cottonmouth bad!
That's what happens when you're lying through your teeth.
@@robh1908 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I was putting up with it until he said nothing is wrong with chinese made tires. You would have to be crazy to trust anything made in china
"Cotton mouth"???? Sounds like the OPPOSITE to me!!!! Hope for his shirt's sake he's wearing a bib!
@@StanWilhite i waa drinking water when i read your comment...i started laughing and spat water out....🤣🤣 Maybe he should stuff some cotton
There's opinion and there's results from tests performed by independent organisations. This video here is an opinion.
Tests show differences can be huge, big enough to be not so fine a line between a safe emergency stop and one leading to a fatal collision. And yet all fullfilled the so called safety requirements (meaning those requirements may need to be upgraded to the current state of technology and traffic density).
Yes, premium brands often come out on top, that premium money doesn't only go into advertising, it also goes into research and development.
Tests also show that quality (non-OEM) brands are catching up, making the gap with budget brands all the wider.
My advice: check out test results from independent organisations and choose the best price/quality ratio product you're willing to pay for out there. You don't have to go for (e.g.) Michelin or Continental if (e.g.) Falken or Vredestein can offer a reasonably similar performance for a bit less.
And one last question: wouldn't you rather spend an extra $160 on those Firestones and treat the expenditure as a CHEAP insurance premium, one that may potentially save your life?
I just bought Michelline tires my car drive smoother, quiter and steers better. I have buying off brand tires and there is no comparison. Plus they are rated for more millage.
It's in your head man just like when you pay more for a meal
I've used Motomaster tires and I consider them to be garbage. Like many cheaper tires, the belts seem to separate on them. I bought Nexen winter tires from Walmart and didn't like them all that much. I used Nokian and they are a great tire. Michelin's are also very good. You pay a premium for them, but they are worth it. If you want to save some $$$, I'd look at Cooper. They make a decent tire and a very affordable price.
This video is so misinforming, I do not know where to start.
Regular tires vas all seasons. Tread types can give different driving experience.
Millage can be very different. 30,000 mile tire vas a 50,000 mile.
Warrantee??? There are also different constructions of tires between companies with US and foreign.
its an opinion.
Continental Truecontact for spring-summer Brigentone Blizzak WS80 for all long winter in Canada Toronto. forget about the BIG GUY Michelin. special the old Defender XH.
my buddy who owns a shop always pushes these cheap Chinese tires cause he can sell way more of them and make more profit from people that don't care about handling and performance.......
That's how I look at tires as in paying for a name for good tires. I'm going to be buying a Set of 4 cheap tires brand name Haida tires good up to 60,000 MIles I think it's great for my old Ford that I really don't drive that car as much it's just a grocery go geter for me. I Understand Very Well My Friend and Thanks for all of The Info
You will pay for the name of just about everything in commercial business. At the same time, paying more usually means a better quality product. It's like buying parts. Do you buy OEM or Aftermarket? Nothing is wrong with aftermarket depending on what you buy. But what you will find is when buy the "knockoff" version, it doesn't last as long. Or it falls apart. Or it have defective issues. In the case of name brand vs off brand tires, does it wear bad? How does it hold up in 90-100 degree weather? Depending on the region you live in, this can definitely be an issue. You may just be a victim of blown out shredded tire flying all over ppls cars leaving you on the shoulder. If a shoulder is even available! All I know is that all my years I been buying brand name tires I never was left on the side of the road. Now does this mean that they are that much better than the off brand name tires? You tell me? I'm not looking to play the experimental game at this point.
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Can't afford it
I have always bought branded tyres…but when you have your tyres deliberately damaged by criminals..I have opted for budget tyres… not expecting the same drive experience as branded tyres… time will tell when I drive them in the winter..if the grip is poor going back to branded tyres!
What about milage wear? Does name brand last longer? Better warranty? I love my car and I like putting quality under it... Now if I got 2 tires same quality and warranty and one is half the cost I will go with less cost. But I don't have an issue paying 240 per tire for nitto performance tires either.
I done testing on my nitto vs various other tires I have owned and the cornering G's are much better,. Decreased stopping distance and all around grip improved. 20 feet difference in stop distance can be all the difference between missing a deer and hitting the deer.
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After my expensive experience with Michelin premium tires I probably would try out those dirt cheap Chinese tires. Michelin's great tire written warranty makes the most expensive toilet papers & gives the best PAIN in the S performance.
In my experience if you're going to hit a deer you're going to hit a deer; no tire is going to make a difference in that.
@@valerierodger7700 Where are you seeing a 30 ft difference in stopping distance. That would be about 25% of the total avg stopping distance from 60 mph. No consumer tire is 25% grippier than another unless you are talking about racing slicks. Just stop with the misinformation.
@@MegaTechpc "just stop with the misinformation"
Ah, the irony.
Not racing slicks, regular passenger vehicle winter tires - and the test was only done it 50 mph, the difference in stopping distance would be even greater at 60 mph.
m.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=193
You can scroll down to the stopping distances for 50 mph to 0
159.4 - 128 = 31.4" difference in stopping distance on wet pavement
@@valerierodger7700 I'm confused, where in this video or discussion were freaking snow tires ever mentioned?
I beg to differ. I went through two sets of "no name brand" tires that never balanced correctly. Yes, I tried different shops and even different wheels. I eventually bought more expensive tires (not outrageously expensive) from a "name" company and all vibrations were eliminated. You get what you pay for.
If they never balanced correctly you should have had them replaced right away from where you bought them! THINK!
We sell just as many non name brands as name brand tires. We sell in bulk tho! 🚚🚛
I bought a low price Douglas Tire from Walmart ...they were so loud i thought my rear end was going out on my 2014 Kia Optima ... i got Rid of them and bought a set of Goodyear Assurance...the difference was night and day...the brand name tire was 85% more quiet than the no name brand...this is just my story.
Douglas allseason tires are good winter tires, hence the same noise you get from snow or all terrain tires. Just got my 3rd set of Douglas.
I’m 57 years old I grew up in South Florida and we always bought tires from a small locally owned tire retailer because of their honesty and the two owners used to also put the same tires on his own vehicles as he sold and they always told us the same thing you say honestly you are only the second tire guy I know that is shooting straight every place I’ve tried other than my guy in Florida has wanted to sell me their highest price tire inmy size what I like to do usually is to use either the same make and model the car manufacturer put on at the factory or a tread pattern that is very similar
Consumer Reports rated the Firestone Winterforce at the bottom. Chinese tires last a year or two, they use crappy rubber, guaranteed to age crack prematurely. But why does Michelin age crack way before the tread wears out? Are they using inferior rubber? They're made in Canada France and USA. 303 rubber treatment should help
I would never tell my kids go and buy cheap tyres ,why because I want them to be safe .and if something happen and the tyres blow out and cause an accident. I would sue the brand name tyres manufacture ,it would be hard for me to be compensated from a chines company
Lol tires don't blow out no more they been out law that issue.
Must be a sales wonk. 5 minutes of empty air.
You pay for better compounds, safety and longevity of the tire , I love my family so I don’t buy cheap tire !!
@Roscoe Dogg You all paid extra %%% for brand, if I'm right. So why Asian cheaper tires can be more worst than similar brands? Answer is right away, these Asian tires is the same safe and 90% long life plus safety is better than 80% of others. Your choice is up to you.
On a budget so I've narrowed my choices for my 2007 Highlands to: 16" Phantom AP's, Rocky Mountain HT and Rocky Mountain LT225. The Rocky Mountains have identical tread patterns, more rugged looking but the LT225 is a 10 ply with a higher load range. Any input from anyone who has any of these would be appreciated.
Dude, Thailand is the worlds second largest producer of latex. All the big tire brands have headquarters and production in Thailand.
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FOCUS ON EACH ONE!
They say the more expensive tires do have higher quality rubber for winter. Ppl say the cheaper tires in colder weather give up having good traction quicker
Your thinking is like mine. I would go with the cheaper tires for my good running cheap car.
In general tire technology hasn't changed too much in years. A tire is a tire is a tire as far as general safety and road wear. The biggest differences you will notice if any, have to do with noise and some extreme conditions, but that is mainly due to tread pattern not tire quality
If you buy online, you don't always know if they meet specs, but an authorized tire dealer can only sell tires that meet certain USA specifications. And many US companies have their tires made in other countries but are sold under a different name.
Tire technology has changed greatly over the years since the first USofA DOT UTQG ratings were published. We have more A Traction tires as a percentage of all tire models than that first list did. The percentage of C Temperature tires has decreased significantly. Traction levels increased so much the DOT created the AA Traction rating level. We have speed ratings that used to be thought unobtainable. 300 Kilometer Per Hour(186 MPH) retail tires were unthinkable a couple of decades ago.
If you can't tell the difference, don't pay the difference, but there is a big difference between the brand names tires. If you can't tell the difference between a Porsche and a Yugo, then buy the Yugo.
I have been extremely happy with all the Hankook tires I've purchased in the last 20 years
Which ones?
@@abc0583 Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10. Have purchased at least 10 of them over the past several years. Currently have some Hankook Kinergy tires on the wife's car. Will be buying 4 more Hankook Kinergy tires for my project truck when the time comes. Hankook are good tires at a decent price.
With tires being the only thing between me and the road, I will take the best I can buy every time.
As an Australian, I’d buy the Firestone tyre any day. I’m sorry, but you cannot convince me to put a no name Chinese tyre on my car, but thanks for your video.
Friend's Sunny tire sidewall bubble and blew out.
Matter of fact, ling long (who makes infinity) and sailun are top 3 tyre company from China and ling long is within 10 global tyre brand now.
Through quantity no other reason
Yes, ratings and reviews are the best answer to quality and know what to buy . The name brand items are partially advertising & marketing costs. At my shop we sale use tires only. At a chip price but we get this tires from places were tire have been in the road that haven't been sitting expose to rain and sun.
Well hell, I thought you were going to drive test them not talk about how you can or can't afford a tire, and what is it about talking and then take a drink or whatever, just do your drinking and eating Donuts than start your video thing,
I’m a deaf guy, when tire dealer notice I’m deaf and dumb, rip off us, I go amazon and buy tires at mid grade, free delivery, I install myself!! Save $$$. I do homework, study rates, reviews and grades of those tires, I get them. Dealership nowadays just looking for $$$. Yes, rubbers are different in each manufacturing. Namebrand tires too often take too much bites out of my pockets. Best follow the ratings and put good threads on. Agree with one reviewer said, how much mark ups??
I think it is the same idea even for Chinese brand, you have to go for the know brand.. if you for unknown cheaper brand then problems will be coming… I bought Chinese Brand “Pearly” and happened to be 3 tires have sever imbalance and the vehicle shakes despite having wheels balances. Fuel economy is bad, not good handeling. Longer breaking distance..
What people don't realize, name brand and el cheepo, might be made by the same company!! Same belts, plies, rubber, etc., just might have different tread pattern!! And very often, same warranty! Even tires made in the good old U.S.ofA., just check out Cooper tire and the different brands they make! Not just tire companies either, Rheem air conditioner makes two or three off brands! Before Huskvarna bought Electrolux, they made Sears lawn equipment and Poulan/Poulan Pro lawn equipment! The difference? The color of the plastic covers!!
yes, lets encourage people to buy cheap tires to pass it on to the next owner!
Continental DWS tires by far best for the buck All Season tire. I've driven many and none compare
Don't listen to this guy. I went to a Les Schwab to get a free tire rotation. The guy said I needed new tires. So he gives me 4 estimates for different tire brands. I never even HEARD of any of the brands! I asked where these tires were made. He said he did not know, so we went in back and pulled down one tire from each brand. 2 were made in China, 1 in Korea, 1 in Japan. Thanks Les Schwab, for selling cheap Asian tires to make a quick extra buck! To hell with safety, just get the customer's money. I buy name brand tires only - Goodyear, Michelin, B.F. Goodrich, Cooper, Continental.
Most of those are made over seas haha
Read the label , tires are mfg. in many countries , and sold with your county's bland name .
never go to schwab. not the same company after the old man died.
Korean and Japanese tires arnt bad. Nexen and Yokohama both make good, safe tires. Yokohama have even started manufacturing in the US. I use to be in the wholesale tire business STAY AWAY FROM CHINESE TIRES. I personally use Yokohama exclusively.
lol Goodyear will only last a good year you muppet
Choosing new tires is a pain in the butt. So many contrary reviews out there. I decided to go semi-cheap because my car has over 130k and I don't drive much anymore. I did buy the lifetime warranty just in case.