@@johnhonest9347 Having a corvette and like to buy used ones , i drive a chevy 2005. I still buy new ones for it , my safety and driving comfort comes first. You starement sound like those who likes to buy new cars and cannot afford for the gas and car payment
Greatdreams wooooah my comments went to the wrong video. That’s why. I was thinking I was posting to the herts video where they are selling corvettes for 65k. Disregard my second comment. For my corvette I buy new. I have lion hearts on them. Car ID got me the staggered fit tires for $400 with purchase of rims. Sorry bout that. So used tires for my work van if one goes flat. As for my vette new. And honestly I can barely afford the payment now and days with corona but I have 80,000 smiles on that car... oops miles. Jaydrivin. Is my Ig if u wanna see for yourself.
There have been near countless tests proving the cheaper tyres on the whole do not perform the same as the big established brands. Trying to say that all these tests, many here on you tube, are not fair, rubbish, etc. etc. is incorrect. I usually go for mid brands, just a little more expensive than budget, but much better performance getting close to the big boys, but much cheaper.
I recently bought a set of Starfire WR's for my Genesis sedan (sub-brand of Cooper made in China) and they are absolutely fantastic so far. Smoother riding than the BFGoodrich's I replaced and much quieter. I can't say how good the tread life will be yet but so far I am very impressed with these cheap China-made tires. Got a set of four 235/50R18's from Kauffman installed for $375! That's just a fantastic deal and I have no regrets whatsoever! Will be buying cheap tires from now on for sure. Unless you are tracking your car or driving a lot in very inclement weather, spending boat loads of money on premium brand tires is just a waste of money.
@@ynestroza95 braking distance is part of safety. if you want shorter braking distances don't drives too fast and pay attention to where you are driving.
Consumer Reports rated the Firestone Winterforce at the bottom. Chinese tires last a year or two, they use crappy rubber, guaranteed to age crack prematurely. But why does Michelin age crack way before the tread wears out? Are they using inferior rubber? They're made in Canada France and USA. 303 rubber treatment should help
On a budget so I've narrowed my choices for my 2007 Highlands to: 16" Phantom AP's, Rocky Mountain HT and Rocky Mountain LT225. The Rocky Mountains have identical tread patterns, more rugged looking but the LT225 is a 10 ply with a higher load range. Any input from anyone who has any of these would be appreciated.
In my country (eastern Europe) China is about 50 euros brand new while name brand is 100-120 if i don't go for top shelf which can be about 200 for my car, so tell me why should i go to name brand tires?
Dude! For someone so "knowledgeable" you only know the sales aspect of selling tires. I worked for Bridgestone for 6 years, not only in the tire plants but also in the corporate office. While working in corporate I hit every Bridgestone/Firestone plant in the US. Including 2 of the rubber and synthetics plants. There's a lot more that goes into the name brand tires than just rubber. The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell. And they sell a lot of them! They wear a long time but they are very noisy on the highway (I've owned 2 sets). The synthetics/rubber mix is not the same as the us brands which is why they are cheaper and the technology in all Chinese tires is not as good as US name brands. They sell those tires in the Chinese market too. Not to add comfort to driving but because the compound is different because the roads are not as good as here. It's the same for all Chinese brands. The Firestones you show come from the Joliette, Quebec plant. Not China. Question: Do you know what the painted strip means on those tires???
On US built tires, the color strip (1) indicate which OEM gets certain tires from production runs You could have 3 different production lines creating those Firestone's in the same facility (Joliette) but only one line is applying the red strip to the tire before curing. Stripped tires get inspected at least twice by hand before being matched with other tires of similar weight and balance. Every wonder why the new set that came on a new car lasted longer than tires in a tire store? That's why. As far as getting stripped tires in an aftermarket store, Tires Plus, Firestone Care, Tire Rack, your store and others, those are rejected OEM tires made for the US market. There's nothing wrong with them other than maybe a small blemish on the side wall or not all of a letter filled out in the press. That's it. I have stripped tires (Bridgestone's) I bought from Firestone Care on both my cars. I requested them when I bought them. Stripped tire marking is used for OEM manufactured tires from all the major tire producers in the US supplying them to the auto production lines. Stripped tires from overseas have similar meanings. Since they won't always be applied to US production cars, one strip will indicate it's going to the US, others could indicates which facility it's from or materials mix in the tire. Really unknown about the Chinese produced tires. My only knock against Chinese produced tires is they are usually loud on the highway, don't ride well regardless of the tread design and tend to wear quickly if balance and alignment are out. Other than that, they wear like iron and will last the designed miles (i.e. 40-60K). They're great for first time drivers! You can hit curbs, speed bumps, debris on the road they still go.......and are cheap to replace when they do split a sidewall.
"The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell." Ok on Tire Rack I am seeing tht the Bridgestone DriveGuard tires are from France. Is that information incorrect?
i would need to know the max miles per each brand.. the higher priced may be warranted .. say 70.000 miles.. the middle tire may only be warranted for say 45.000 miles and lower miles for the lowest price tire.. that also makes a big difference in my decision.. think about it..
I found these tires on line for cheap 345 Canadian for a set of 4 winter tires, I asked for the brand name “rapid ice night” I searched everywhere but was unable to find anything about them, can anybody help me with this?
Acceleration, braking, and cornering grip are relatively low priority for most normal drivers. We are generally talking about All-Season tires that just need to be safe. You don't need P-Zero grip to have a safe tire. Now if you are tracking your car you probably care a lot about grip, but in day-to-day commuting basically any DOT rated tire has plenty of raw grip to be considered safe.
@@MegaTechpc that’s the words considered safe I much prefer to have a tire that can handle emergency braking much better A couple of feet can make the difference of hitting a kid on the street or not always choose something that’s over engineered so your never pushing the product to it’s breaking point
When a tire meets DOT's (or Canada's version) requirements, they are meeting MINIMUM requirements. Saying these tires meet DOT's requirements is not a selling point. if you have a beater that needs tires and you don't do much hwy driving, get the el cheepos. If it's on a nice car or truck, your children, wife or someone else you love is driving, get the good tires. Check the mfg dates on whatever tires you get. Do not except any tires beyond 1 year from mfg date unless you are certain you are going to wear them out before they are 5 years old.
I gotta chime in. I have used Continental tires on my car since the day I bought it. It came with them, I get 45,000 miles out of a set. One time and ONLY ONE TIME we went to Pep Boys because money was tight and got Futura tires. Loud junk. I currently run GoodYear Assurance on it now because Amazon was too good to pass up.
But that is what those brands are for. They meet the minimum USofA DOT specifications to keep you going. I helped a person out and Discount tire would not patch one of her worn out tires. The others had various states of bad wear. I took the deal for the lowest cost 4 new tires they had. She got something with decent tread depth. Sure they will not last more than two years, but it is better than driving on bald tires with sidewall bubbles.
I run cheap Kenda Klever AT tires on my 2019 Silverado, and I have 3 winters on the same set. Great tires in the winter, but they're getting noisy now that they have 75K miles on them.
It's not just tyres, all heavily advertised products carry a price premium. I've had Kumho tyres on a heavy, powerful car for some months and am quite happy with them having saved quite some money.
Kumho haven't really taken off in the UK yet, I'm going to try some on my car before the price gets hiked up. Saving a lot of money on the factory fitted Continental tyres. The only difference according to the spec is the very slightly less efficient fuel economy, which doesn't bother me as I don't drive vast distances. Looking forward to trying them.
I purchased a set of Radar Dimax AS-8 all season tires. And they are by far MUCH better then the OEM Michelin Latitude Tour HP's that came on my 2015 Lincoln MKC AWD. They are XL (extra load) rated which is better then the SL (standard load) Michelin's i had. They are also rated higher being 101V as opposed to my old Michelin's which were 97V. And tread wear is 60K for these Radar tires and 55k for my old Michelin's. The Radar load rating is also higher at 1819lbs vs the Michelin's 1609lbs. And then the biggest difference was in tread wear life with the Radar's at 600AA vs the Michelin's 440AA rating. I also considered the Milestar MS932 Sport tires. However, i came to find out through much research reading online reviews about how noisy they were. And thankfully i'm NOT finding that to be a problem with these Radar brand tires. My Lincoln is pretty damn quiet anyway as it is a luxury SUV with a lot of sound deadening. But regardless of that i still didn't want to put out money for a noisy tire. Especially on a $40k vehicle.
I wouldn't buy Chinese tires. But I've bought brand names like Cooper, General (Continental), Falken, Yokohama, BF Goodrich. Will be purchasing Toyo Proxes soon. All held up very well except for the Yokohama's, which surprised me quite a bit. Bottom line, do your research. It's not just about the brand, but specific models of a brand based on what type of conditions you need them to perform in. The best feedback will always be from people that actually have them and experience them firsthand. Not from a salseman.
some brand tires are made in china as well. Stuff made in US is actually put together in the US but with global parts( made in china lol). people think they are not buying stuff from china. Can you achieve that goal? I doubt it. the electronics appliances clothings cookwares led bulbs car parts even oem car parts you name it... oh forgot one thing the glass frames( costs store maybe 5-10 bucks shipped from china and sells to you for 300-500 bucks lol ) those are all made in china. if you are really not buying stuff from china you are not leaving your home cause u will be looking for ur underwear suit ties hats gloves socks and you cant even lock your home because locks are also made in china lol. so you are calling ur boss you will miss the work today oh no cellphobe is made in china too.
I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA. Haha! Great famous performance with a big famous name. It actually drives pretty good. Everything went south👎👇 In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me. Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter. They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment. They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?" Guess what ? I said " YES". He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ." They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me. The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation. Guess what? The same tire dressing question? He ask me do I use any tire shine products again. I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question. If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires. If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires. It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim. Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim. I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim. No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty. I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me. Michelin no longer sell the Premier MXV4 after 5 years. The worst expensive tire experience.
i got 4 nankang ns25 tires and all 4 are defective from the factory. they all have flat spots and one has a flat with uneven tread cut ... so nankang crap or bad luck and got handed 4 def tires ..??
I live in NZ , South Pacific . I swear by the big name tyre companies for reliability and safety on the road . A lot of modern cars require good sporting designs in road holding and wet weather driving , which I have had the fortunate Australian designed Ford and Holden ( GM ) and they certainly need to be shod with great performance tyres to be able to handle whatever road surface they travel on . The cheapo Chinese ones I bought one year , were so terrible , they were sliding on corners , I had to take it easy and nurse the car for half of the tyres life , because that`s how long it took to scrub the nylon / rubber , so that it was safe to drive !! Never again ! I couldn`t take them back as we were heading away for the Xmas break , everything was shut for the week . Gave the Tyre Shop a bloody mouthful when I got back and never dealt with them again !
I sold Cooper, Hankook, Michelin, Goodyear, Firestone, Kumo. Have to say if I was going to buy tires. It was always mid grade. Seemed to me they wore longed for me.
They say the more expensive tires do have higher quality rubber for winter. Ppl say the cheaper tires in colder weather give up having good traction quicker
Yes, ratings and reviews are the best answer to quality and know what to buy . The name brand items are partially advertising & marketing costs. At my shop we sale use tires only. At a chip price but we get this tires from places were tire have been in the road that haven't been sitting expose to rain and sun.
Always check the DOT date stamped into the tire! Usually tire sales are on tires that are getting too close to lifetime end which is 10 years! DOT numbers are read if they say 2318 they were made on 23rd week of 2018!
What's your opinion on Atlas Priva AT tires? I needed new tires and Wal-Mart didn't want to honor their mileage warranty to prorate a new set. Got the Atlas ones bal and mounted for $400 vs $565 for Wrangler Trailmark. Thanks for any input.
i got a premium brandd tire ...in just a few months just found out there was a factory defect.. long crack inside and had to replace it. Still thankful it just went flat and did not explode whle im drvng..
2014 Chev Silverado 1500 LT with your expertise what tire do your recommed keep in mind saving dollars is important . budget price mid grade & brand price
Performance tires Michelin are good. Continental are better though. Michelin winter stores are not good in wet cold. Nokian is a better option. The only class I would rate michelin as superior is their all season, the defender would be my choice. Their all weather is good for a first try but not a patch on nokian all weather. Depending in where you live, the car you own and the climate I wouldn't blindly stick to michelin.
I had a set of cheap Chinese winter tires given free with my leased Honda Civic. The tread made an awful racket on all road surfaces and the sidewalls seemed to be unstable on icy surfaces. I had zero confidence in them and bought a set of Michelin x-ice tires to replace them.They may save money, they may be certified for use, but there is no way I'm putting my life on the line with substandard rubber.
Bought 4 tires from Amazon for $250. My car is 14 years old so it could fail at any time so I don't want to take a chance and buy high end tires for $600. I don't drive in snow so I just need some good sticky rubber for the dry season.
Tires have ratings as well. H, V, etc.. It has to do with the durability of the carcass and speed ratings. Generally the higher speed rating on the tire, the stronger the carcass.
Never had good luck with firestone tires. There was a brand new set of Firestone’s on my van when I bought it wasn’t even two years later the belts had already shifted. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problems. Bought a 2012 civic car wasn’t even three years old lots of tread on the tires all cracked firestone again. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problem. As far as the China tires and sailun tires i’ve had great luck with those on different cars and trucks never had a problem with them. That’s just my experience over the last 43 years of driving. As far as I’m concerned Michelin is the top dog on the pile. Most highway trucks have Michelin‘s on the front steer axle that should tell you something because you don’t want a blow out on the front or you could end up upside down.
I noticed that no brand names are last longer than brand names Yes Coz I tried it not unless this brand names is made in the USA ...I always look nowadays that brand names are made either made in China or Taiwan Thailand...I rather buy no brand coz they will last longer than brand names and are both made in China..
And for those of you watching this in lower part of the lower 48, buy name brand tires! They last longer in the heat, separate less and balance better. Hey Hillyard rim, please provide the road force readings of a name brand vs a no name brand (First spin, before balance). Explain how high road force effects longevity of the tire, suspension and steering components not to mention provides a less than stellar ride and are more subject to belt separation. About me, just a tech in a hot climate area of the lower 48. I "HATE" buying and installing tires and suspension components (for myself). I buy one tire brand and have for years. My tires normally "time" out before they wear out. I also road force the tires with a goal of 10 pounds or less of road force. Most tires will be under 10 pounds on the first spin. I also road force balance every 20,000 miles.
It drives me a little nuts to see we are still selling UTQG Temperature B and C tires in the USofA. If the tire companies could increase traction so much that the DOT had to create an AA Traction rating then why can't the tire companies get all the tires to perform at the A Temperature level. Maybe we need an AA Temperature rating to incentivize them. Michelin Defender T&H tires are a perfect example of this. A UTQG of AB on one of your most important tires? Now I suspect that the real performance of the Michelin Defender T&H is UTQG AA, but they are being conservative and underpromising just in case something something, but other companies really are at the minimum of the B temperature performance range. As you state that is not great in the summer heat driving up I-95 or I-75.
@@abc0583 Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10. Have purchased at least 10 of them over the past several years. Currently have some Hankook Kinergy tires on the wife's car. Will be buying 4 more Hankook Kinergy tires for my project truck when the time comes. Hankook are good tires at a decent price.
I work in a dealership that sells those exact firestones as a winter tire package. and let me tell you, they are junk! They dry rot in less than 3 seasons of use, and they're extremely prone to punctures. They wear quickly and unevenly. And being the guy who gets to install them, i'll tell you that I'll never run firestone tires in my life. All personal opinions, of course. But that's my view on this topic.
that's why almost 100 years later ford dropped them you are 100 % right on that . letz see 1980s Firestone 500 then ford explorer in 90s had wilderness tire that separated tread they should have been in the wilderness as a planter !!!
OK, I have done both. Bought cheap Walmart tires and then bought better Bridgestone tires. My present cars are a Nissan 350Z and the other is an Infiniti Q60S. These cars have performance suspensions and are not your average family sedans. With these cars, the quality of tires makes a huge difference in handling and ride. Now, on a Ford Ranger beater I had, there was little difference between the cheap Walmart Chinese tires and something like a Bridgestone because the Ranger was much more forgiving with respect to it's suspension. As for the number of miles tires go, it has to do with the type. All weather, Summer, Touring, etc. There is a tread wear rating on tires. Higher tread wear rating tend to be less grippy and last longer where as low tread wear rated gummy summer tires are great for handling, but do not last as long. I like to stick with OEM or higher quality tires for the particular car or truck. Doing it on the cheap generally nets less then desired results with respect to handling and the longevity of the tires. It is always best to check the type and size of tires on a car you plan to purchase. That new Infiniti with the 19" wheels may look cool, but when it comes time to replace those tires, be prepared for that $1000 bill, where as the base models with 18" or 17" tires may only cost $600 for a new set.
A friend got rid of the OEM tires on his Infiniti car and replaced them with the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3s. He said it was like the difference between night and day when driving in the rain.
If you can't tell the difference, don't pay the difference, but there is a big difference between the brand names tires. If you can't tell the difference between a Porsche and a Yugo, then buy the Yugo.
This video is so misinforming, I do not know where to start. Regular tires vas all seasons. Tread types can give different driving experience. Millage can be very different. 30,000 mile tire vas a 50,000 mile. Warrantee??? There are also different constructions of tires between companies with US and foreign.
You get what you pay for. make sure you look at ratings, reviews ...etc. While safety is priceless, the difference in price could be more than justified by the difference in tire life and fuel economy.
Really? I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA. Haha! Great famous performance with a big famous name. It actually drives pretty good. Everything went south👎👇 In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me. Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter. They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment. They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?" Guess what ? I said " YES". He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ." They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me. The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation. Guess what? The same tire dressing question? He ask me do I use any tire shine products again. I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question. If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires. If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires. It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim. Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim. I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim. No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty. I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me. I paid $ for my bad experience.
What about milage wear? Does name brand last longer? Better warranty? I love my car and I like putting quality under it... Now if I got 2 tires same quality and warranty and one is half the cost I will go with less cost. But I don't have an issue paying 240 per tire for nitto performance tires either. I done testing on my nitto vs various other tires I have owned and the cornering G's are much better,. Decreased stopping distance and all around grip improved. 20 feet difference in stop distance can be all the difference between missing a deer and hitting the deer.
Gaming Made Simple After my expensive experience with Michelin premium tires I probably would try out those dirt cheap Chinese tires. Michelin's great tire written warranty makes the most expensive toilet papers & gives the best PAIN in the S performance.
@@valerierodger7700 Where are you seeing a 30 ft difference in stopping distance. That would be about 25% of the total avg stopping distance from 60 mph. No consumer tire is 25% grippier than another unless you are talking about racing slicks. Just stop with the misinformation.
@@MegaTechpc "just stop with the misinformation" Ah, the irony. Not racing slicks, regular passenger vehicle winter tires - and the test was only done it 50 mph, the difference in stopping distance would be even greater at 60 mph. m.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=193 You can scroll down to the stopping distances for 50 mph to 0 159.4 - 128 = 31.4" difference in stopping distance on wet pavement
Ive seen major brand names shit out total crap tires like michelin back in the day that came stock on mid 80's mustang GT, they were crazy expensive too! luckily now you can do some research online read reviews etc...
Continental Truecontact for spring-summer Brigentone Blizzak WS80 for all long winter in Canada Toronto. forget about the BIG GUY Michelin. special the old Defender XH.
I have a 2008 Camry Hybrid. I commute 120 miles a day 5 days a week. I have yet to spend money on new tires. I am hesitant to spend too much money on brand name tires, but I know that commuting 5 days a week does take a toll on the tires. Is it better to use non brand name tires or brand name tires. I guess I'm looking to see people's opinion.
Bought Chinese tires before I went on a 1600 mile trip From Houston to El Paso Texas by the end of the trip lost all 4 !!! No more Chinese Tires for me.
That sucked. The only tire brand I heard of do worse was an American tire brand, named TreadWright, but the tires are not new, they're remolds. Someone on RUclips posted a video in which he lost all four tires before having to refuel his fuel tank. I feel comfortable with buying non-American tires, but one Chinese tire I can definately, positively say to stay away from is a brand called Sailun.
MrMaz111 Branded well known tyres are always the best , they probably come with a guarantee anyway. I remember years ago Esso use to make to make tyres, and even if they got damaged by running over glass or a nail they would replace the tyre in three months no quibble or there after give you a discount on another new one depending on the tread depth. Who remembers Esso tyres?
Had one band new Chinese tire on a trailer I was towing through Canada to Alaska. It frigg'n blew apart on me just as I was getting into Edmonton. Got of the hwy to look and it started pouring rain. Yeah, Chinese tires. NO MORE.
How do you know which tire is expensive and cheap? You have to split the cost with the miles you get out of it to know if it is cheap. Since all tires are round and black you need tests to provide information about performance.
The USofA DOT has a website for tire recalls. Maybe Canada has something similar. I use Tire Rack, 1010 tires, Consumer Reports and some others to get an idea of what customers have experienced with tires and what testing has shown.
Id go middle price, i just buy some chinese brand Grenlander from walmart store, for a nissan Versa, 2 tires for about $110 dollars size 195/65/15 in Mexico.
Do some research on tires, meaning the DOT specs, heat, traction, load range, (not tread wear that is a number set by the manufacturer only relative to their own tires not competitors), match these specs to your automobile manufacturers specs for your automobile. I've researched tires for years, right now I have tires on my Ford F 150 from Tire Rack that are made for them from some far east country, 50,000 mile warrantee have over 60,000 now and still good. My wifes new F 250 came with Michelin and with only 30,000 will need new tires before another 10,000 miles. Name brand doesn't mean anything.
The number of miles a tire lasts is only 1 metric of a tire. I don’t know shit about pick up truck tires but my favorite car tire (Michelin Pilot Sport) sticks to the road like glue (wet or dry) and handles great. If I get 20k miles out if a set, I’m pleased. I could put tires on my car with a 50k mile tread warranty but in an emergency braking or steering event, I’m thankful I’ve got the sticky, high performance tires to save my ass (and my car) instead of the high mileage warranty tires that might not keep me out of an accident. Thankfully I haven’t been in an emergency situation in my car recently but I have great peace of mind with those tires mounted on my wheels that the deck is stacked in my favor should an emergency present itself.
I'm an old school motorhead and only buy Continental tires, the "Contact" series exclusively. I had to throw out a whole set of 1/4 worn Coopers off my Jeep and Cross Contacts just came out. They're made by computer in Mexico in a completely automated factory. And today have a 91% best brand rating at Tire Rack. And Tire Rack should know, they've sold gazillions of tires of every brand; quite possibly to your own shop. That review is based on people who have actually bought the tires. Not some "experts" opinion. Over the years, since "Contacts" first came out, I've had about 20 sets and have never had a single problem with any one of them. That's the first thing I do when I buy a car. Even a new car, is put a set of Connies on it and don't worry about it. And I've done that with 1 new car and 2 new Jeeps now. Most new cars come with 28 dollar tires. Really. You can't even buy them and they're usually shot in 20,000 miles. Many of my "Contact" tires were purchased at Tire Rack because they're hard to find. And if they have them, you have them within a week. And their tread designs are excellent and have DWS imprints on the 2nd rib. (dry, wet, snow) When the S disappears, it's no longer rated for snow. When the W disappears, it's no longer rated for wet weather. When the D disappears the tire is worn out. I know of no other manufacturer that does this and these are 70,000 mile tires. I even have a pair of Teva sandals for my feet with Continental tire bottoms on them. Don't ask me. I've only had one flat tire out of over 90 tires and it was a nail. From Cross Contacts for my SUV's and Jeeps, to Extreme Contacts for my cars and Hot Rods. Continental's are the only tires I trust, or buy, and I'm currently running 4 sets of them. And when you're running 4 sets of tires, you better be sure. I Have more trouble with my rims than I do my tires. Modern factory alloy rims start corroding the day you get them and the valve stems start leaking. They have to hone out the hole and glue them in. Really, I'm not making this up, you'll see. All the rest of the major tire manufacturers are garbage. If you see a huge dent in your sidewall, it's not NORMAL like your dealer says; that tire is junk and isn't even round. They bounce when you drive down the road and wear your struts and suspension bushings out. That is also why you can't balance them properly. Cooper really disappointed me and Good Year has always been junk. Except in Semi Trucks: Michelin and Bridgestone are the most over rated tires there are. In the winter, Michelin's are useless and won't even let you leave your own driveway. Just ask my brother. And Firestone and Uniroyal? Are they even still in business? They shouldn't be. Dunlop makes excellent Motorcycle tires and that's about it. Pirelli makes good tires, and they wear out so fast you have to replace them every year, or even twice. They're only good for 7,000 miles. NOT 70. Continentals are standard equipment on many European cars and should be on all cars. They're weight rated for the car you buy them for, so they always ride very smooth. But hey, that just the opinion of one old school motorhead, who's been around the block a few times. Take free advice for what it's worth.
There's opinion and there's results from tests performed by independent organisations. This video here is an opinion. Tests show differences can be huge, big enough to be not so fine a line between a safe emergency stop and one leading to a fatal collision. And yet all fullfilled the so called safety requirements (meaning those requirements may need to be upgraded to the current state of technology and traffic density). Yes, premium brands often come out on top, that premium money doesn't only go into advertising, it also goes into research and development. Tests also show that quality (non-OEM) brands are catching up, making the gap with budget brands all the wider. My advice: check out test results from independent organisations and choose the best price/quality ratio product you're willing to pay for out there. You don't have to go for (e.g.) Michelin or Continental if (e.g.) Falken or Vredestein can offer a reasonably similar performance for a bit less. And one last question: wouldn't you rather spend an extra $160 on those Firestones and treat the expenditure as a CHEAP insurance premium, one that may potentially save your life?
Thanks for the video. What do you think of atlas tires? I just realized it’s a US brand but made by linglong tires with their factory in Thailand. There’s so much hate for Chinese tires and I am worried they will come apart at highway speeds or a few months down the road . Thanks for your time and patience.
That's how I look at tires as in paying for a name for good tires. I'm going to be buying a Set of 4 cheap tires brand name Haida tires good up to 60,000 MIles I think it's great for my old Ford that I really don't drive that car as much it's just a grocery go geter for me. I Understand Very Well My Friend and Thanks for all of The Info
Best tires I've ever owned were General and Continental (same company). Personally I like tires from a company I can sue if they fail and I get killed.
Another consideration for cheap tires is private label tires. 2 years ago I was replacing my spare tire on my 2009 Toyota Tacoma and went to Peerless tires (a regional tire shop chain known for selling cheap tires). For $100usd out the door I got a Delta all terrain tire. Delta tires is a private label brand and it turns out this tire was made in the USA in a Cooper tires factory. Cooper all terrain tires for my Tacoma usually run $150+/- a piece.
I had Kumho tires on my car and exchanged them now with Continental after 7 years. It is such a huge difference in better driving and safety feeling. I would go for the brand.
You will pay for the name of just about everything in commercial business. At the same time, paying more usually means a better quality product. It's like buying parts. Do you buy OEM or Aftermarket? Nothing is wrong with aftermarket depending on what you buy. But what you will find is when buy the "knockoff" version, it doesn't last as long. Or it falls apart. Or it have defective issues. In the case of name brand vs off brand tires, does it wear bad? How does it hold up in 90-100 degree weather? Depending on the region you live in, this can definitely be an issue. You may just be a victim of blown out shredded tire flying all over ppls cars leaving you on the shoulder. If a shoulder is even available! All I know is that all my years I been buying brand name tires I never was left on the side of the road. Now does this mean that they are that much better than the off brand name tires? You tell me? I'm not looking to play the experimental game at this point.
I bought a low price Douglas Tire from Walmart ...they were so loud i thought my rear end was going out on my 2014 Kia Optima ... i got Rid of them and bought a set of Goodyear Assurance...the difference was night and day...the brand name tire was 85% more quiet than the no name brand...this is just my story.
I purchase mile star tires after replacing name brand (good year) tires after owning for one year and they crapped out. Drove 3 years with the mile star no issues. From then I bought high performance achilles tires for my STI I had no issues. I ain't going to lie Michelin tires probably the best brand tires I have used way too pricey. Just buy what you can afford and read the reviews.
Just having brand new tires in general is a blessing
megadethGUY M amen. Ive been buying used for years
@@johnhonest9347 So if nobody buy new u will never buy used ones.
So be grateful people still buy new ones
Greatdreams yeah let them take the hit. My corvette grand sport ran me 25k I’m happy
@@johnhonest9347 Having a corvette and like to buy used ones , i drive a chevy 2005. I still buy new ones for it , my safety and driving comfort comes first.
You starement sound like those who likes to buy new cars and cannot afford for the gas and car payment
Greatdreams wooooah my comments went to the wrong video. That’s why. I was thinking I was posting to the herts video where they are selling corvettes for 65k. Disregard my second comment. For my corvette I buy new. I have lion hearts on them. Car ID got me the staggered fit tires for $400 with purchase of rims. Sorry bout that. So used tires for my work van if one goes flat. As for my vette new. And honestly I can barely afford the payment now and days with corona but I have 80,000 smiles on that car... oops miles. Jaydrivin. Is my Ig if u wanna see for yourself.
My Coopers are made in the USA and cost me $98 per tire. They are considered to be "mid grade" tires and are a good trusted "name brand" tire.
Mine cracked after 3 years and they were not baked in the sun living in the UK, not a good experience with them.
@@mirola73 mine are still mounted on the rims and doing well.
I don't know about anybody else but that slurping every time he breathes driving me nuts in this video
ME TOO!!!!! I thought, "damn....sounds like he's drooling over everything and everybody around him"!
@ Good thing for him that tires don't RUST!!! :-)
It drives your nuts.?
lmao ... i thought the same thing ..
Made me close the video! Sounds disturbing!!!!!
There have been near countless tests proving the cheaper tyres on the whole do not perform the same as the big established brands.
Trying to say that all these tests, many here on you tube, are not fair, rubbish, etc. etc. is incorrect.
I usually go for mid brands, just a little more expensive than budget, but much better performance getting close to the big boys, but much cheaper.
I recently bought a set of Starfire WR's for my Genesis sedan (sub-brand of Cooper made in China) and they are absolutely fantastic so far. Smoother riding than the BFGoodrich's I replaced and much quieter. I can't say how good the tread life will be yet but so far I am very impressed with these cheap China-made tires. Got a set of four 235/50R18's from Kauffman installed for $375! That's just a fantastic deal and I have no regrets whatsoever! Will be buying cheap tires from now on for sure. Unless you are tracking your car or driving a lot in very inclement weather, spending boat loads of money on premium brand tires is just a waste of money.
Hard to believe he thinks "meeting safety requirements" and price are the only considerations.
What are the others? If it's safe and affordable, why not?
@@humansvd3269 specs!
@@Daniel-tv9tb safety is the first and foremost thing it should meet. Then price. Anything after that is extra.
Warranty, comfort and shorter braking distant.
@@ynestroza95 braking distance is part of safety. if you want shorter braking distances don't drives too fast and pay attention to where you are driving.
I only buy used tires. I've never had a blowout. It would suck to buy new tires then lose the car to a wreck 1 week later.
Consumer Reports rated the Firestone Winterforce at the bottom. Chinese tires last a year or two, they use crappy rubber, guaranteed to age crack prematurely. But why does Michelin age crack way before the tread wears out? Are they using inferior rubber? They're made in Canada France and USA. 303 rubber treatment should help
I bought a set of 33x12.50 sport king at tires,,,, Chinese tires I know but they lasted 5 years and all balanced with less than an ounce of weight.
On a budget so I've narrowed my choices for my 2007 Highlands to: 16" Phantom AP's, Rocky Mountain HT and Rocky Mountain LT225. The Rocky Mountains have identical tread patterns, more rugged looking but the LT225 is a 10 ply with a higher load range. Any input from anyone who has any of these would be appreciated.
In my country (eastern Europe) China is about 50 euros brand new while name brand is 100-120 if i don't go for top shelf which can be about 200 for my car, so tell me why should i go to name brand tires?
Dude! For someone so "knowledgeable" you only know the sales aspect of selling tires. I worked for Bridgestone for 6 years, not only in the tire plants but also in the corporate office. While working in corporate I hit every Bridgestone/Firestone plant in the US. Including 2 of the rubber and synthetics plants. There's a lot more that goes into the name brand tires than just rubber.
The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell. And they sell a lot of them! They wear a long time but they are very noisy on the highway (I've owned 2 sets). The synthetics/rubber mix is not the same as the us brands which is why they are cheaper and the technology in all Chinese tires is not as good as US name brands. They sell those tires in the Chinese market too. Not to add comfort to driving but because the compound is different because the roads are not as good as here. It's the same for all Chinese brands.
The Firestones you show come from the Joliette, Quebec plant. Not China.
Question: Do you know what the painted strip means on those tires???
Alicia Akes hi thanks for your feedback and info, what does those stripes mean?
On US built tires, the color strip (1) indicate which OEM gets certain tires from production runs You could have 3 different production lines creating those Firestone's in the same facility (Joliette) but only one line is applying the red strip to the tire before curing. Stripped tires get inspected at least twice by hand before being matched with other tires of similar weight and balance. Every wonder why the new set that came on a new car lasted longer than tires in a tire store? That's why.
As far as getting stripped tires in an aftermarket store, Tires Plus, Firestone Care, Tire Rack, your store and others, those are rejected OEM tires made for the US market. There's nothing wrong with them other than maybe a small blemish on the side wall or not all of a letter filled out in the press. That's it. I have stripped tires (Bridgestone's) I bought from Firestone Care on both my cars. I requested them when I bought them.
Stripped tire marking is used for OEM manufactured tires from all the major tire producers in the US supplying them to the auto production lines.
Stripped tires from overseas have similar meanings. Since they won't always be applied to US production cars, one strip will indicate it's going to the US, others could indicates which facility it's from or materials mix in the tire. Really unknown about the Chinese produced tires.
My only knock against Chinese produced tires is they are usually loud on the highway, don't ride well regardless of the tread design and tend to wear quickly if balance and alignment are out. Other than that, they wear like iron and will last the designed miles (i.e. 40-60K). They're great for first time drivers! You can hit curbs, speed bumps, debris on the road they still go.......and are cheap to replace when they do split a sidewall.
Alicia Akes wow!!! Informative!! Send us your contact info! Would love to connect about tires!
"The only tires Bridgestone brings into N. America are Primewell." Ok on Tire Rack I am seeing tht the Bridgestone DriveGuard tires are from France. Is that information incorrect?
Thank you for your knowledgeable advise. What about Crosspro YS71 ? Are they good ?
i would need to know the max miles per each brand.. the higher priced may be warranted .. say 70.000 miles.. the middle tire may only be warranted for say 45.000 miles and lower miles for the lowest price tire.. that also makes a big difference in my decision.. think about it..
I found these tires on line for cheap 345 Canadian for a set of 4 winter tires, I asked for the brand name “rapid ice night” I searched everywhere but was unable to find anything about them, can anybody help me with this?
The last 14 tires I have purchased have all been Hankooks. Looking at the Dynapro RF11 AT2s for my next purchase.
What's the wear rating? What's the traction rating? What's the temp. rating?
Why waste your time with those worthless ratings
Do some subjective tests for acceleration, braking, and cornering. You will see where that money is going besides the plate glass windows.
BreadAndGatorade yeah I wanna see how these things handle on water.
Acceleration, braking, and cornering grip are relatively low priority for most normal drivers. We are generally talking about All-Season tires that just need to be safe. You don't need P-Zero grip to have a safe tire. Now if you are tracking your car you probably care a lot about grip, but in day-to-day commuting basically any DOT rated tire has plenty of raw grip to be considered safe.
@@MegaTechpc except that emergency when you need all that performance
@@MegaTechpc that’s the words considered safe I much prefer to have a tire that can handle emergency braking much better A couple of feet can make the difference of hitting a kid on the street or not always choose something that’s over engineered so your never pushing the product to it’s breaking point
When a tire meets DOT's (or Canada's version) requirements, they are meeting MINIMUM requirements. Saying these tires meet DOT's requirements is not a selling point. if you have a beater that needs tires and you don't do much hwy driving, get the el cheepos. If it's on a nice car or truck, your children, wife or someone else you love is driving, get the good tires.
Check the mfg dates on whatever tires you get. Do not except any tires beyond 1 year from mfg date unless you are certain you are going to wear them out before they are 5 years old.
Milestar ms932? what do you think?
I gotta chime in. I have used Continental tires on my car since the day I bought it. It came with them, I get 45,000 miles out of a set. One time and ONLY ONE TIME we went to Pep Boys because money was tight and got Futura tires. Loud junk. I currently run GoodYear Assurance on it now because Amazon was too good to pass up.
But that is what those brands are for. They meet the minimum USofA DOT specifications to keep you going. I helped a person out and Discount tire would not patch one of her worn out tires. The others had various states of bad wear. I took the deal for the lowest cost 4 new tires they had. She got something with decent tread depth. Sure they will not last more than two years, but it is better than driving on bald tires with sidewall bubbles.
Goodyear assurance tires suck they came on my Malibu that I bought brand new
I run cheap Kenda Klever AT tires on my 2019 Silverado, and I have 3 winters on the same set. Great tires in the winter, but they're getting noisy now that they have 75K miles on them.
It's not just tyres, all heavily advertised products carry a price premium. I've had Kumho tyres on a heavy, powerful car for some months and am quite happy with them having saved quite some money.
Kumho haven't really taken off in the UK yet, I'm going to try some on my car before the price gets hiked up. Saving a lot of money on the factory fitted Continental tyres. The only difference according to the spec is the very slightly less efficient fuel economy, which doesn't bother me as I don't drive vast distances. Looking forward to trying them.
I purchased a set of Radar Dimax AS-8 all season tires. And they are by far MUCH better then the OEM Michelin Latitude Tour HP's that came on my 2015 Lincoln MKC AWD. They are XL (extra load) rated which is better then the SL (standard load) Michelin's i had. They are also rated higher being 101V as opposed to my old Michelin's which were 97V. And tread wear is 60K for these Radar tires and 55k for my old Michelin's. The Radar load rating is also higher at 1819lbs vs the Michelin's 1609lbs. And then the biggest difference was in tread wear life with the Radar's at 600AA vs the Michelin's 440AA rating. I also considered the Milestar MS932 Sport tires. However, i came to find out through much research reading online reviews about how noisy they were. And thankfully i'm NOT finding that to be a problem with these Radar brand tires. My Lincoln is pretty damn quiet anyway as it is a luxury SUV with a lot of sound deadening. But regardless of that i still didn't want to put out money for a noisy tire. Especially on a $40k vehicle.
Thanks for your nice review!
I wouldn't buy Chinese tires. But I've bought brand names like Cooper, General (Continental), Falken, Yokohama, BF Goodrich. Will be purchasing Toyo Proxes soon.
All held up very well except for the Yokohama's, which surprised me quite a bit.
Bottom line, do your research. It's not just about the brand, but specific models of a brand based on what type of conditions you need them to perform in. The best feedback will always be from people that actually have them and experience them firsthand. Not from a salseman.
some brand tires are made in china as well.
Stuff made in US is actually put together in the US but with global parts( made in china lol).
people think they are not buying stuff from china. Can you achieve that goal? I doubt it.
the electronics appliances clothings cookwares led bulbs car parts even oem car parts you name it...
oh forgot one thing the glass frames( costs store maybe 5-10 bucks shipped from china and sells to you for 300-500 bucks lol )
those are all made in china.
if you are really not buying stuff from china you are not leaving your home cause u will be looking for ur underwear suit ties hats gloves socks and you cant even lock your home because locks are also made in china lol.
so you are calling ur boss you will miss the work today oh no cellphobe is made in china too.
@@yz8302 😆
I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA.
Haha!
Great famous performance with a big famous name.
It actually drives pretty good.
Everything went south👎👇
In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me.
Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter.
They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment.
They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?"
Guess what ?
I said " YES".
He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ."
They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me.
The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation.
Guess what? The same tire dressing question?
He ask me do I use any tire shine products again.
I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question.
If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires.
If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires.
It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim.
Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim.
I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim.
No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty.
I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me.
Michelin no longer sell the Premier MXV4 after 5 years.
The worst expensive tire experience.
i got 4 nankang ns25 tires and all 4 are defective from the factory. they all have flat spots and one has a flat with uneven tread cut ...
so nankang crap or bad luck and got handed 4 def tires ..??
I live in NZ , South Pacific . I swear by the big name tyre companies for reliability and safety on the road . A lot of modern cars require good sporting designs in road holding and wet weather driving , which I have had the fortunate Australian designed Ford and Holden ( GM ) and they certainly need to be shod with great performance tyres to be able to handle whatever road surface they travel on . The cheapo Chinese ones I bought one year , were so terrible , they were sliding on corners , I had to take it easy and nurse the car for half of the tyres life , because that`s how long it took to scrub the nylon / rubber , so that it was safe to drive !! Never again ! I couldn`t take them back as we were heading away for the Xmas break , everything was shut for the week . Gave the Tyre Shop a bloody mouthful when I got back and never dealt with them again !
I sold Cooper, Hankook, Michelin, Goodyear, Firestone, Kumo. Have to say if I was going to buy tires. It was always mid grade. Seemed to me they wore longed for me.
So what brand are the mid ranges?
I put cheap ass tires on my EX’s car and kicked her out the door. Stoping distance from 100ft to 135ft.
They say the more expensive tires do have higher quality rubber for winter. Ppl say the cheaper tires in colder weather give up having good traction quicker
Yes, ratings and reviews are the best answer to quality and know what to buy . The name brand items are partially advertising & marketing costs. At my shop we sale use tires only. At a chip price but we get this tires from places were tire have been in the road that haven't been sitting expose to rain and sun.
Always check the DOT date stamped into the tire! Usually tire sales are on tires that are getting too close to lifetime end which is 10 years! DOT numbers are read if they say 2318 they were made on 23rd week of 2018!
Good info 🤟
HOLD THE CAMERA STILL!!!
FOCUS ON EACH ONE!
What's your opinion on Atlas Priva AT tires? I needed new tires and Wal-Mart didn't want to honor their mileage warranty to prorate a new set. Got the Atlas ones bal and mounted for $400 vs $565 for Wrangler Trailmark. Thanks for any input.
i havent used those tires before,
@@HILLYARDSRIMLIONS If and when you do, will definitely be looking out for your review.
if you could make a video how much you would need two start a small tire shop . that would be grate
Angel Bolanos I actually have already made one, check it in my.videos on "how to run successful tire shop"
+HILLYARD'S RIM LIONS thank you I will
i got a premium brandd tire ...in just a few months just found out there was a factory defect.. long crack inside and had to replace it. Still thankful it just went flat and did not explode whle im drvng..
2014 Chev Silverado 1500 LT with your expertise what tire do your recommed keep in mind saving dollars
is important . budget price mid grade & brand price
I have Saliun ice blazer on my edge and they are good tire in the snow good on wet pavement and quiet on the hwy. I would buy them again no problem.
SHOULD YOU BUY A BETTER CAMERA OR SHOULD YOU NOT??????????
Can't afford it
Michelin tires only. Of all the tires I have tried, Michelins are the only tire for me.
Performance tires Michelin are good. Continental are better though. Michelin winter stores are not good in wet cold. Nokian is a better option. The only class I would rate michelin as superior is their all season, the defender would be my choice. Their all weather is good for a first try but not a patch on nokian all weather. Depending in where you live, the car you own and the climate I wouldn't blindly stick to michelin.
Your thinking is like mine. I would go with the cheaper tires for my good running cheap car.
Bro stop shaking the camera so much
I had a set of cheap Chinese winter tires given free with my leased Honda Civic. The tread made an awful racket on all road surfaces and the sidewalls seemed to be unstable on icy surfaces. I had zero confidence in them and bought a set of Michelin x-ice tires to replace them.They may save money, they may be certified for use, but there is no way I'm putting my life on the line with substandard rubber.
I looked up landspider tires idk how your video poped up!? Does RUclips know that that’s a tire brand or did you tag that brand?
What about contruction. 2 ply, 4 ply.
I tow a 3 ton caravan.
I got falken at3ws.
Anything less. Not interested
Do you have any input on the mazzini mud contender tires?
For God's sake remove your camera from the kangaroo's back!
Kangaroo's back! Hahahaha. You are so funny!
lol
i am getting dizzy watching this
Sorry i move the camera a lot. I get exciting talking about tires.lol!
😅😅😅😅
Bought 4 tires from Amazon for $250. My car is 14 years old so it could fail at any time so I don't want to take a chance and buy high end tires for $600. I don't drive in snow so I just need some good sticky rubber for the dry season.
Tires have ratings as well. H, V, etc.. It has to do with the durability of the carcass and speed ratings. Generally the higher speed rating on the tire, the stronger the carcass.
Friend's Sunny tire sidewall bubble and blew out.
Never had good luck with firestone tires. There was a brand new set of Firestone’s on my van when I bought it wasn’t even two years later the belts had already shifted. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problems. Bought a 2012 civic car wasn’t even three years old lots of tread on the tires all cracked firestone again. Replace them with Michelin‘s no more problem. As far as the China tires and sailun tires i’ve had great luck with those on different cars and trucks never had a problem with them. That’s just my experience over the last 43 years of driving. As far as I’m concerned Michelin is the top dog on the pile. Most highway trucks have Michelin‘s on the front steer axle that should tell you something because you don’t want a blow out on the front or you could end up upside down.
I noticed that no brand names are last longer than brand names Yes Coz I tried it not unless this brand names is made in the USA ...I always look nowadays that brand names are made either made in China or Taiwan Thailand...I rather buy no brand coz they will last longer than brand names and are both made in China..
I think this video has just seal my faith on putting infinity 245/45r18 tire on my 04 Infiniti G35 ✌
And for those of you watching this in lower part of the lower 48, buy name brand tires! They last longer in the heat, separate less and balance better. Hey Hillyard rim, please provide the road force readings of a name brand vs a no name brand (First spin, before balance). Explain how high road force effects longevity of the tire, suspension and steering components not to mention provides a less than stellar ride and are more subject to belt separation.
About me, just a tech in a hot climate area of the lower 48. I "HATE" buying and installing tires and suspension components (for myself). I buy one tire brand and have for years. My tires normally "time" out before they wear out. I also road force the tires with a goal of 10 pounds or less of road force. Most tires will be under 10 pounds on the first spin. I also road force balance every 20,000 miles.
It drives me a little nuts to see we are still selling UTQG Temperature B and C tires in the USofA. If the tire companies could increase traction so much that the DOT had to create an AA Traction rating then why can't the tire companies get all the tires to perform at the A Temperature level. Maybe we need an AA Temperature rating to incentivize them. Michelin Defender T&H tires are a perfect example of this. A UTQG of AB on one of your most important tires? Now I suspect that the real performance of the Michelin Defender T&H is UTQG AA, but they are being conservative and underpromising just in case something something, but other companies really are at the minimum of the B temperature performance range. As you state that is not great in the summer heat driving up I-95 or I-75.
you never explain why buy the middle price rather than the lowest price. If they are both equally good, why pay more?
What do you think about the Venom Power Terra Hunter XT tire?
I like the Firestone LE3. Is there a cheaper company that makes a tire like that I should try?
Honestly, the le3 tread pattern is pretty unique. Maybe aspen tires
You’re paying for research and development that Chinese companies do not do. Always go with name brand tyres.
I have been extremely happy with all the Hankook tires I've purchased in the last 20 years
Which ones?
@@abc0583 Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10. Have purchased at least 10 of them over the past several years. Currently have some Hankook Kinergy tires on the wife's car. Will be buying 4 more Hankook Kinergy tires for my project truck when the time comes. Hankook are good tires at a decent price.
I work in a dealership that sells those exact firestones as a winter tire package. and let me tell you, they are junk! They dry rot in less than 3 seasons of use, and they're extremely prone to punctures. They wear quickly and unevenly. And being the guy who gets to install them, i'll tell you that I'll never run firestone tires in my life. All personal opinions, of course. But that's my view on this topic.
that's why almost 100 years later ford dropped them you are 100 % right on that . letz see 1980s Firestone 500 then ford explorer in 90s had wilderness tire that separated tread they should have been in the wilderness as a planter !!!
@@bradb5445 😆
OK, I have done both. Bought cheap Walmart tires and then bought better
Bridgestone tires. My present cars are a Nissan 350Z and the other is an Infiniti Q60S.
These cars have performance suspensions and are not your average family sedans. With these cars, the quality of tires makes a huge difference in handling and ride. Now, on a Ford Ranger beater I had, there was little difference between the cheap Walmart Chinese
tires and something like a Bridgestone because the Ranger was much more forgiving with respect to it's suspension. As for the number of miles tires go, it has to do with the type. All weather, Summer, Touring, etc. There is a tread wear rating on tires. Higher tread wear rating tend to be less grippy and last longer where as low tread wear rated gummy summer tires are great for handling, but do not last as long. I like to stick with OEM or higher quality tires for the particular car or truck. Doing it on the cheap generally nets less then desired results with respect to handling and the longevity of the tires. It is always best to check the type and size of tires on a car you plan to purchase. That new Infiniti with the 19" wheels may look cool, but when it comes time to replace those tires, be prepared for that $1000 bill, where as the base models with 18" or 17" tires may only cost $600 for a new set.
A friend got rid of the OEM tires on his Infiniti car and replaced them with the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3s. He said it was like the difference between night and day when driving in the rain.
If you can't tell the difference, don't pay the difference, but there is a big difference between the brand names tires. If you can't tell the difference between a Porsche and a Yugo, then buy the Yugo.
This video is so misinforming, I do not know where to start.
Regular tires vas all seasons. Tread types can give different driving experience.
Millage can be very different. 30,000 mile tire vas a 50,000 mile.
Warrantee??? There are also different constructions of tires between companies with US and foreign.
its an opinion.
What is the meaning of 100/97s in tyer can u explan me
You get what you pay for. make sure you look at ratings, reviews ...etc. While safety is priceless, the difference in price could be more than justified by the difference in tire life and fuel economy.
geniuspharmacist: Apparently you learned nothing from this video.
Really?
I had Michelin all seasons premium top of the line (PREMIER MXV4) passager tires proudly made in CANADA.
Haha!
Great famous performance with a big famous name.
It actually drives pretty good.
Everything went south👎👇
In only 3 1/2 years dry rots with only about several hundreds of fine cracks lines on all sidewalls of all 4 tires smiling at me.
Brought it back to COSTCO with its famous posted black and white powerful warranty behind their beans counter.
They blamed me for all the dry rots and all the sidewalls cracks. With a big no no instore warranty claim or adjustment.
They asked me a double sword question of " Do you use tire shine or not?"
Guess what ?
I said " YES".
He replied back " You shouldn't be supposed to use any tire shine or rubber preservatives products ."
They give me Michelin's own representatives toll free number to deal with me.
The Michelin Co. representative tells me to go to one of their independent privately owned tire shop near me to get another evaluation.
Guess what? The same tire dressing question?
He ask me do I use any tire shine products again.
I quickly realized it's a double-edged sword question.
If you use tire dressing products, it means you are using chemicals are a no-no for the Michelin tires.
If you said you don't use tire dressing products, which means you don't take care of your tires.
It ends up another no and forfeit warranty claim.
Then the Michelin tire rep, give me another tire shop located much farther away from this location for me to get another evaluation for warranty claim.
I realize this is just another RUNABOUT GAME Michelin played to F#*k me up to get rid of me from warranty claim.
No warranty claim on a 5 years FAMOUS Warranty.
I will never look at MICHELIN tires again after this HALL OF SHAME GAME 🎮 they played on consumers like me.
I paid $ for my bad experience.
Passing Safety standards compared too quality and longevity are 2 different things. The problem is that you never know until its tried and tested
armstrong tru-trac ht worth 125 each?
What about milage wear? Does name brand last longer? Better warranty? I love my car and I like putting quality under it... Now if I got 2 tires same quality and warranty and one is half the cost I will go with less cost. But I don't have an issue paying 240 per tire for nitto performance tires either.
I done testing on my nitto vs various other tires I have owned and the cornering G's are much better,. Decreased stopping distance and all around grip improved. 20 feet difference in stop distance can be all the difference between missing a deer and hitting the deer.
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After my expensive experience with Michelin premium tires I probably would try out those dirt cheap Chinese tires. Michelin's great tire written warranty makes the most expensive toilet papers & gives the best PAIN in the S performance.
In my experience if you're going to hit a deer you're going to hit a deer; no tire is going to make a difference in that.
@@valerierodger7700 Where are you seeing a 30 ft difference in stopping distance. That would be about 25% of the total avg stopping distance from 60 mph. No consumer tire is 25% grippier than another unless you are talking about racing slicks. Just stop with the misinformation.
@@MegaTechpc "just stop with the misinformation"
Ah, the irony.
Not racing slicks, regular passenger vehicle winter tires - and the test was only done it 50 mph, the difference in stopping distance would be even greater at 60 mph.
m.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=193
You can scroll down to the stopping distances for 50 mph to 0
159.4 - 128 = 31.4" difference in stopping distance on wet pavement
@@valerierodger7700 I'm confused, where in this video or discussion were freaking snow tires ever mentioned?
Ive seen major brand names shit out total crap tires like michelin back in the day that came stock on mid 80's mustang GT, they were crazy expensive too! luckily now you can do some research online read reviews etc...
bridgestone & firestone had their major probs in the past too
Continental Truecontact for spring-summer Brigentone Blizzak WS80 for all long winter in Canada Toronto. forget about the BIG GUY Michelin. special the old Defender XH.
My car only likes used tires. When ever I put new one's it chews them up from one side really fast.
I have a 2008 Camry Hybrid. I commute 120 miles a day 5 days a week. I have yet to spend money on new tires. I am hesitant to spend too much money on brand name tires, but I know that commuting 5 days a week does take a toll on the tires. Is it better to use non brand name tires or brand name tires.
I guess I'm looking to see people's opinion.
I go buy certain people in the business a lifetime they will say the cheaper tires will only last half as long.
Guys I'm about to buy a set of Kenda tires for my motorcycle, which is a 200cc. Are they good? Thanks in advance!
What about bootleg tires?
Hey rim line how are you what is the full name of that Firestone and full specs
Has anyone tried Starfire tires?
I always use Walmart tires for the last 30 years made in China i love it good 👍 thanks for sharing your video
Bought Chinese tires before I went on a 1600 mile trip From Houston to El Paso Texas by the end of the trip lost all 4 !!! No more Chinese Tires for me.
That sucked. The only tire brand I heard of do worse was an American tire brand, named TreadWright, but the tires are not new, they're remolds. Someone on RUclips posted a video in which he lost all four tires before having to refuel his fuel tank. I feel comfortable with buying non-American tires, but one Chinese tire I can definately, positively say to stay away from is a brand called Sailun.
MrMaz111 Branded well known tyres are always the best , they probably come with a guarantee anyway. I remember years ago Esso use to make to make tyres, and even if they got damaged by running over glass or a nail they would replace the tyre in three months no quibble or there after give you a discount on another new one depending on the tread depth. Who remembers Esso tyres?
Had one band new Chinese tire on a trailer I was towing through Canada to Alaska. It frigg'n blew apart on me just as I was getting into Edmonton. Got of the hwy to look and it started pouring rain. Yeah, Chinese tires. NO MORE.
How do you know which tire is expensive and cheap? You have to split the cost with the miles you get out of it to know if it is cheap. Since all tires are round and black you need tests to provide information about performance.
The USofA DOT has a website for tire recalls. Maybe Canada has something similar. I use Tire Rack, 1010 tires, Consumer Reports and some others to get an idea of what customers have experienced with tires and what testing has shown.
US tire are higher because Unions. Not putting down unions but they add cost to the final price
Id go middle price, i just buy some chinese brand Grenlander from walmart store, for a nissan Versa, 2 tires for about $110 dollars size 195/65/15 in Mexico.
Very good. About the same thing my auto expert told me.
Yes. you are paying a little more for the brands. That's it.
Do some research on tires, meaning the DOT specs, heat, traction, load range, (not tread wear that is a number set by the manufacturer only relative to their own tires not competitors), match these specs to your automobile manufacturers specs for your automobile. I've researched tires for years, right now I have tires on my Ford F 150 from Tire Rack that are made for them from some far east country, 50,000 mile warrantee have over 60,000 now and still good. My wifes new F 250 came with Michelin and with only 30,000 will need new tires before another 10,000 miles. Name brand doesn't mean anything.
The number of miles a tire lasts is only 1 metric of a tire. I don’t know shit about pick up truck tires but my favorite car tire (Michelin Pilot Sport) sticks to the road like glue (wet or dry) and handles great. If I get 20k miles out if a set, I’m pleased. I could put tires on my car with a 50k mile tread warranty but in an emergency braking or steering event, I’m thankful I’ve got the sticky, high performance tires to save my ass (and my car) instead of the high mileage warranty tires that might not keep me out of an accident. Thankfully I haven’t been in an emergency situation in my car recently but I have great peace of mind with those tires mounted on my wheels that the deck is stacked in my favor should an emergency present itself.
I'm an old school motorhead and only buy Continental tires, the "Contact" series exclusively. I had to throw out a whole set of 1/4 worn Coopers off my Jeep and Cross Contacts just came out. They're made by computer in Mexico in a completely automated factory. And today have a 91% best brand rating at Tire Rack. And Tire Rack should know, they've sold gazillions of tires of every brand; quite possibly to your own shop. That review is based on people who have actually bought the tires. Not some "experts" opinion. Over the years, since "Contacts" first came out, I've had about 20 sets and have never had a single problem with any one of them. That's the first thing I do when I buy a car. Even a new car, is put a set of Connies on it and don't worry about it. And I've done that with 1 new car and 2 new Jeeps now. Most new cars come with 28 dollar tires. Really. You can't even buy them and they're usually shot in 20,000 miles. Many of my "Contact" tires were purchased at Tire Rack because they're hard to find. And if they have them, you have them within a week. And their tread designs are excellent and have DWS imprints on the 2nd rib. (dry, wet, snow) When the S disappears, it's no longer rated for snow. When the W disappears, it's no longer rated for wet weather. When the D disappears the tire is worn out. I know of no other manufacturer that does this and these are 70,000 mile tires. I even have a pair of Teva sandals for my feet with Continental tire bottoms on them. Don't ask me. I've only had one flat tire out of over 90 tires and it was a nail. From Cross Contacts for my SUV's and Jeeps, to Extreme Contacts for my cars and Hot Rods. Continental's are the only tires I trust, or buy, and I'm currently running 4 sets of them. And when you're running 4 sets of tires, you better be sure. I Have more trouble with my rims than I do my tires. Modern factory alloy rims start corroding the day you get them and the valve stems start leaking. They have to hone out the hole and glue them in. Really, I'm not making this up, you'll see. All the rest of the major tire manufacturers are garbage. If you see a huge dent in your sidewall, it's not NORMAL like your dealer says; that tire is junk and isn't even round. They bounce when you drive down the road and wear your struts and suspension bushings out. That is also why you can't balance them properly. Cooper really disappointed me and Good Year has always been junk. Except in Semi Trucks: Michelin and Bridgestone are the most over rated tires there are. In the winter, Michelin's are useless and won't even let you leave your own driveway. Just ask my brother. And Firestone and Uniroyal? Are they even still in business? They shouldn't be. Dunlop makes excellent Motorcycle tires and that's about it. Pirelli makes good tires, and they wear out so fast you have to replace them every year, or even twice. They're only good for 7,000 miles. NOT 70. Continentals are standard equipment on many European cars and should be on all cars. They're weight rated for the car you buy them for, so they always ride very smooth. But hey, that just the opinion of one old school motorhead, who's been around the block a few times. Take free advice for what it's worth.
my friend says Chinese tires are trash is he right?
@Roscoe Dogg 2 years for a yes lol.
Matter of fact, ling long (who makes infinity) and sailun are top 3 tyre company from China and ling long is within 10 global tyre brand now.
Through quantity no other reason
There's opinion and there's results from tests performed by independent organisations. This video here is an opinion.
Tests show differences can be huge, big enough to be not so fine a line between a safe emergency stop and one leading to a fatal collision. And yet all fullfilled the so called safety requirements (meaning those requirements may need to be upgraded to the current state of technology and traffic density).
Yes, premium brands often come out on top, that premium money doesn't only go into advertising, it also goes into research and development.
Tests also show that quality (non-OEM) brands are catching up, making the gap with budget brands all the wider.
My advice: check out test results from independent organisations and choose the best price/quality ratio product you're willing to pay for out there. You don't have to go for (e.g.) Michelin or Continental if (e.g.) Falken or Vredestein can offer a reasonably similar performance for a bit less.
And one last question: wouldn't you rather spend an extra $160 on those Firestones and treat the expenditure as a CHEAP insurance premium, one that may potentially save your life?
You can't compare unless you cut them and examine the profile. Check the bead, check the radial threading, check the inner and outer walls.
Thanks for the video. What do you think of atlas tires? I just realized it’s a US brand but made by linglong tires with their factory in Thailand. There’s so much hate for Chinese tires and I am worried they will come apart at highway speeds or a few months down the road . Thanks for your time and patience.
Hi thanks for watching I used to sell Atlas tires never had a problem Chinese tires are made very well these days
That's how I look at tires as in paying for a name for good tires. I'm going to be buying a Set of 4 cheap tires brand name Haida tires good up to 60,000 MIles I think it's great for my old Ford that I really don't drive that car as much it's just a grocery go geter for me. I Understand Very Well My Friend and Thanks for all of The Info
Best tires I've ever owned were General and Continental (same company). Personally I like tires from a company I can sue if they fail and I get killed.
How tf you sue when dead?
id loveto see u sue as u say when your dead ! the judge will say will the corpse rise !!
Yeah like to see that also thatd be a cool trick
HAHAHA
He will sue them when dead he meant after life
Another consideration for cheap tires is private label tires. 2 years ago I was replacing my spare tire on my 2009 Toyota Tacoma and went to Peerless tires (a regional tire shop chain known for selling cheap tires). For $100usd out the door I got a Delta all terrain tire. Delta tires is a private label brand and it turns out this tire was made in the USA in a Cooper tires factory. Cooper all terrain tires for my Tacoma usually run $150+/- a piece.
yeah watch out on those Coopers, depending on size and style, Made in EITHER: US. Mexico, Portugal or China... "ya feelin' lucky?" -- Dirty Harry
I had Kumho tires on my car and exchanged them now with Continental after 7 years. It is such a huge difference in better driving and safety feeling. I would go for the brand.
And Kumho is usually much better already than unknown (budget) brands.
In my opinion kumho its better
why is every Tire stack a different height and by cost they're taller hello
You will pay for the name of just about everything in commercial business. At the same time, paying more usually means a better quality product. It's like buying parts. Do you buy OEM or Aftermarket? Nothing is wrong with aftermarket depending on what you buy. But what you will find is when buy the "knockoff" version, it doesn't last as long. Or it falls apart. Or it have defective issues. In the case of name brand vs off brand tires, does it wear bad? How does it hold up in 90-100 degree weather? Depending on the region you live in, this can definitely be an issue. You may just be a victim of blown out shredded tire flying all over ppls cars leaving you on the shoulder. If a shoulder is even available! All I know is that all my years I been buying brand name tires I never was left on the side of the road. Now does this mean that they are that much better than the off brand name tires? You tell me? I'm not looking to play the experimental game at this point.
Firestone Firehawks . I went through two sets on a 2013 Dodge . not the best . my choice ? Michelin or Goodyear
I bought a low price Douglas Tire from Walmart ...they were so loud i thought my rear end was going out on my 2014 Kia Optima ... i got Rid of them and bought a set of Goodyear Assurance...the difference was night and day...the brand name tire was 85% more quiet than the no name brand...this is just my story.
Douglas allseason tires are good winter tires, hence the same noise you get from snow or all terrain tires. Just got my 3rd set of Douglas.
How's the lexani lx twenty tire?
I purchase mile star tires after replacing name brand (good year) tires after owning for one year and they crapped out. Drove 3 years with the mile star no issues.
From then I bought high performance achilles tires for my STI I had no issues.
I ain't going to lie Michelin tires probably the best brand tires I have used way too pricey. Just buy what you can afford and read the reviews.
I purchased the Flintstone's GT, They were kind of Square and rode ruff, But i got a yabba dabba doo price.