Perfectionism and ADHD | Thriving with Adult ADHD

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • When you think about ADHD, perfectionism may not be the first thing that comes to mind, but many describe adults with ADHD as being perfectionists.
    While wanting to make sure that things are correct is a good thing, it becomes a problem when it causes you to feel enormous stress, anger, or sadness if you think something isn’t quite right or fear someone might criticize you for imperfections. These feelings may affect your relationships, causing you to withdraw from loved ones or lash out at those who try to help.
    This presentation will help you better understand why you put an enormous amount of time and energy into trying to be perfect. Learn ways to get unstuck and move forward with confidence.
    About the Presenter
    Carol Ann Robbins, PhD, is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in the diagnosis and treatment of ADHD across the lifespan. She is the clinical director of the Annapolis ADHD Center and works with Kathleen Nadeau, PhD, at the Chesapeake ADHD Center of Maryland. Dr. Robbins is a seasoned speaker, presenter, and author, as well as past president of the Maryland Psychological Association and coordinator of the MPA Post-Doctoral Institute on ADHD across the Lifespan. She has served as coordinator of the Anne Arundel County chapter of CHADD since 2002. www.psychologytoday.com/us/th...
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Комментарии • 251

  • @KarriSimone
    @KarriSimone 2 года назад +159

    It's like I'm realizing more of my self identification. I literally have a panic when I face this thought that its not going to be perfect 😕 so I literally don't do it. People have told me there is no way I'm a perfectionist because I have ADHD. Thank you for not making me feel like I just don't care but I know I care too much and avoid so I don't disappoint people.

    • @brennancarter7721
      @brennancarter7721 2 года назад +18

      I have the same problem, when I feel like it won’t be perfect, I have no motivation to do it.

    • @hannahjohn9154
      @hannahjohn9154 2 года назад

      I got frusrated having this ADHD , but with the use of dr imenherbal on RUclips herbal remedy , i have been able to get rid of ADHD

    • @richardbarry1926
      @richardbarry1926 2 года назад +8

      You need someone that supports you sometimes it just takes encouragement from a loved one to break that barrier of doubting yourself

    • @KarriSimone
      @KarriSimone Год назад +1

      😊 so true👍.......

    • @richardbarry1926
      @richardbarry1926 Год назад +3

      @@KarriSimone I've got ADHD and it's been they are since I was a young child I guess but I really have an addressed it until recently... anyway. If you want to talk about it sometime you can text me

  • @adk2277
    @adk2277 2 года назад +226

    I was 34 when I was diagnosed. I had moved from New Mexico to Texas. I got a job as a Med/Surg nurse and the hospital required a physical. I found a new PCP and then I was delighted to find out he sat on the board of the hospital where I would be working and he treated his own patients when they were hospitalized and he and I would be working together. Fast forward 3 and a half months and I was back in his office to have him look at a rash. He asked me why I didn't list my ADHD meds on my med list. I laughed and said "You've been working too many hours Doc, I don't have ADHD". He looked at me shocked, and said, "You absolutely have ADHD" He began asking me questions...How often do you lose things? How often are you late? Do you consider yourself forgetful?....he went through a few dozen questions, and then he started me on my journey of healing. All of the things I beat myself up for had a CAUSE. My "depression", which really felt like paralysis, was actually Executive Dysfunction. My procrastination, my disorganization, nights I couldn't get to sleep and mornings I couldn't wake up.... ADHD. Once I really poured myself into getting help, I found out that the tricks I had developed to study, the timers I set to get me on task....these weren't things other people had to do. The blessing in this was when I saw my own daughter silently suffering, I was able to recognize her struggle and get her help immediately. My dad was an amazing doctor. My mom was the best teacher. They never dreamed I had ADHD because I was a straight A student. I was the "good" kid who could entertain myself quietly for hours, and I was the opposite of hyperactive.....luckily, I loved to learn and I was hyperfocusing on the things that interested me. I also had a huge fear of failure and never wanted to disappoint my parents. Thank you for making this video.

    • @nicolenicole319
      @nicolenicole319 Год назад +20

      Your post could have been written by me .. I had to turn away in acknowledgment, gratitude and shock that my habits weren’t done by others … thank you for your post .. what meds do you take ? Thank you 😊

    • @theantiqueactionfigure
      @theantiqueactionfigure Год назад +4

      @@nicolenicole319 me too.

    • @debbiedebbie9473
      @debbiedebbie9473 Год назад

      What does PCP stand for ? I need to be diagnosed. Does your PCP work over the phone or online etc ? The one who could tell you had ADHD ?

    • @adk2277
      @adk2277 Год назад +1

      @@debbiedebbie9473 Primary Care Physician

    • @grammytina373
      @grammytina373 Год назад +7

      I'm 72 and just now learning about how to deal with my ADHD. I am noticing that some of the coping mechanisms are things that I have instinctively taught myself over the years. I appreciate the tools that she teaches us in this video! The other videos that I have watched about ADHD have shown me what the symptoms are but don't teach me tools for dealing with it.

  • @mareehutchin2702
    @mareehutchin2702 Год назад +45

    I’m yet to be diagnosed with ADHD but definitely have struggled with perfectionism and procrastination all my life… I often can’t get the assignments perfect so don’t hand them and drop out of the course…

  • @r-pupz7032
    @r-pupz7032 Год назад +20

    I was diagnosed age 39. I was a junior doctor but had repeated episodes of depression and very severe imposter syndrome. I was constantly anxious and exhausted. No one spotted my adhd, this was a decade ago so it just wasn't on anyone's radar, especially in an adult woman.
    I internalised it as my own failures and weaknesses. I barely made it through medical school and felt like I wasn't good enough. Eventually I completely decompensated and left medicine after my partner died, and spiralled into drug addiction.
    I'm now in recovery from drugs and am on medication for ADHD. The diagnosis changed my life, and I am working to reframe my negative thiughts such as blaming myself for my "failures", and I realise that ADHD burnout due to my perfectionism and intense masking was the cause of my depression and burnout while working as doctor.
    I am nervous about getting my life back on track in a new career (I want to work in public health and health education) as my perfectionism is still an issue, and it has led to paralysis and stagnation for years now. I am so scared that I will fail, and I can't break down the steps I will need to take to achieve my dreams. After starting medication, it actually got worse as for thr first time in years, I felt like I could potentially achieve my goals. That was terrifying.. so I have been avoiding it.
    I do the same with social interactions, im terrified of being a bad friend like I was when I was undiagnosed (I know this is a harsh assessment but it's how I feel, I would constantly drop off the map, or overpromise the let people down.)
    I "solved" this by not even trying to have social interactions or friendships for many yeats. I am keen to change this as I am very lonely and really miss my friends, but my perfectionism and past "failures" have led to extreme avoidance and paralysis.
    I've never watched a video that spoke to me as much as this did! Thank you so much, I understand myself a bit better now, which is a big step towards self compassion and meaningful change.

    • @BXLrules
      @BXLrules 9 месяцев назад +1

      I hear you. I'm 40, managed to derail my life gradually although I'm an expert in my field. socially isolated myself because of shame and negative thought spirals. now on my way to own my adhd, get help, get diagnosed, do what I have within my reach.

    • @avacadoes4853
      @avacadoes4853 5 месяцев назад

      Keep going!! you will make it!

    • @bbtank3000
      @bbtank3000 24 дня назад

      What type of person specifically deals with this diagnosis? I was raised in a family that was very anti-therapy, so I'm not even sure where to start.

  • @Shifterfire
    @Shifterfire Год назад +17

    Aa someone with ADHD, if you have ADHD and struggle it with starting (task initiation)...
    NEVER eat the frog (first) !!!
    Start with something easy and as you get into the flow start tackling your harder tasks. (but don't save them for the end obviously)

  • @polarpalmwv4427
    @polarpalmwv4427 2 года назад +58

    Did this woman have a crystal ball into my mind? I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at 48 and have been exploring what that means but, wow, this video describes me eerily well.

    • @beahappy1today
      @beahappy1today 2 года назад +6

      I had the same thought 😆 She gets my brain! This video was enlightening and right on target for what I needed. Lawrence, 48 is a long time to unknowingly have ADHD! I don’t know what I would have done without treatment growing up.

    • @jaeshasway
      @jaeshasway 2 года назад +8

      @@beahappy1today It’s the same for me. Diagnosed at 52. I’m in a critical state in my life trying to build a totally different mindset and skill set. I spent most of my life using procrastination and adrenaline to get things done. At 50 in the midst of menopause, with chronic stress and sleep deprivation due to insomnia, stress and overwork that stopped working. My life quickly started going downhill with memory, focus, concentration issues kicking in on top of that. Many women are diagnosed when menopause starts because estrogen actually helps us compensate for many adhd symptoms. My doctor said I was high functioning, or rather I accommodated and worked around my adhd problems. Without the estrogen the symptoms were front and center.

    • @flowersunshinemtn
      @flowersunshinemtn Год назад +2

      @@jaeshasway omg-I resonate with your story….so much! TY for sharing!

    • @jaeshasway
      @jaeshasway Год назад +2

      @@universaltruth2025 I’m more hyperfocused but learning now that the co-symptoms are essentially the same. Insomnia is a big one and I’ve had trouble sleeping literally since I was 5 years old or younger. I remember sneaking snacks into bed as a toddler because I couldn’t sleep. In elementary school I hid under the covers with a flashlight and read. My dad would check on us and tell me to go to sleep when he’d catch me. I recently started HRT pellets and it’s helping. I’m also learning that childhood trauma can basically make adhd even more problematic as we develop many coping skills at a young age and due to trauma can develop the wrong skills when there’s no one there to protect us and teach us differently. My mother remarried after divorcing my Dad and my Stepdad was physically abusive towards my mother and we would often find ourselves in the middle of it. She left him but we develop certain coping skills very early on and mine were warped as a result of being in that environment. I’m trying to sort that out but it’s a tough journey. I still have no real rush due to lack of adrenaline so I’m procrastinating beyond deadlines. Hoping they get the hormones balanced soon. I also have thyroid problems so it’s tricky. On the plus side the HRT has given me increased energy so at least I can get up early or stay up late to get things done when I need to for work. But fatigue and lack of motivation is a daily battle. I got off of Ambien years ago. Not sure I could manage with sleeping pills now as anything I take other than Vyvanse (and even that has to be at a certain dose) will put me in an emotionally blunted state making lack of motivation even worse. When you feel nothing you literally do nothing except hyperfocus on everything else except what you need to focus on. I can only hope that doctors are helping young girls and women more now and less women will have to reach 50 before getting the help they need to navigate life more easily. I spent years misdiagnosed with bipolar when it was actually ADHD. Wishing you well. ♥️

    • @jaeshasway
      @jaeshasway Год назад

      @@flowersunshinemtn Hope you’re doing well. ♥️

  • @jacquelineflood3244
    @jacquelineflood3244 Год назад +8

    “Just B you because No One else can” 💛
    Dr Abraham Lowe “Lower Your standards, Your Performance Will Rise”

  • @helly_bell
    @helly_bell Год назад +37

    This was useful. I would never have called myself a perfectionist but once again - because I didn't understand what it really meant. One thing I didn't agree with was the advice to 'eat the frog'. I just listened to another ADDITUDE webinar where the speaker categorically said that 'eat the frog' does not work for people with ADHD. It certainly doesn't for me. Trying to tackle the biggest job first is usually too big a hurdle to get over which means nothing gets done. Far better to break everything down, do small things, and tackle the bigger thing when I've built some momentum.

    • @laalaa3281
      @laalaa3281 Год назад +3

      For me eating the frog does work, even though i didn't remember that tip, but still do it i found out, that when I have much to do I dont get the biggest thing / frog done, unless get up one morning and start with it.

    • @avacadoes4853
      @avacadoes4853 5 месяцев назад

      I had heard eating the frog was about doing the most undesirable first, so that everything that came after "tasted better" not necessarily the biggest task. I have heard that as how to eat an elephant, one bite at a time - hope that helps if it adds any clarity 💙

  • @kathleenlovett1958
    @kathleenlovett1958 2 года назад +135

    This is kind of long, especially for those of us with ADHD. I'll probably watch it in 5 - 10 minute segments. Thank you for the information ❣️

    • @louern123
      @louern123 2 года назад +5

      I just need to read the title ! Lol

    • @kriskerr1316
      @kriskerr1316 2 года назад +18

      I sped up the playback speed, and also put on the subtitles.

    • @hannahjohn9154
      @hannahjohn9154 2 года назад

      I got frusrated having this ADHD , but with the use of dr imenherbal on RUclips herbal remedy , i have been able to get rid of ADHD

    • @northgeorgiamom8956
      @northgeorgiamom8956 Год назад +8

      @@kriskerr1316 same!!😂 I do that with every RUclips video!

    • @neko_neko9
      @neko_neko9 Год назад +7

      I listen to these on 1.25 or 1.5 while walking!! Cannot otherwise, but if I'm moving I digest the info very well

  • @nicolenicole319
    @nicolenicole319 Год назад +10

    Right now, I’m trying to do two small projects that have to do with using my phone but instead I’m watching this video on ADHD lol and it’s 12:30 AM

  • @debbiedebbie9473
    @debbiedebbie9473 Год назад +9

    I got through 28 minutes before a TEMU ad with pictures popped up and I ended up looking at cool products for an hour. Thought it was 20 minutes, but nope. A full hour. 😅

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад +1

      Those ads are so distracting! If you have Google chrome, you can block those pop ups.

  • @johansen2bfree
    @johansen2bfree Год назад +9

    I found out about lifelong ADHD when I was 51 years old, and I am still learning about how to live purposefully with my condition 🥰

  • @jaymeleonhard3764
    @jaymeleonhard3764 Год назад +18

    OMG 😳 wow I can relate to this. I have ADHD and dyslexia. Have. Masters and have this tendency and it has led to burnout. Procrastinating explanation is so true. Feeling inadequate in early learning days made me feel I was last in everything and I need to give it all just to pass as average.

    • @HaHaLooLoo
      @HaHaLooLoo Год назад +3

      this is me i couldnt have put it better myself 🤧 ". Feeling inadequate in early learning days made me feel I was last in everything and I need to give it all just to pass as average."

  • @KerryFairbanks
    @KerryFairbanks 10 месяцев назад +5

    I literally wrote an email today to one of my instructors explaining in past leadership positions I have been a perfectionist which caused me to be curt and inflexible. I didn't intend to find this video but it is so relevant right now to my current studies

  • @cherrykissesxo94
    @cherrykissesxo94 8 месяцев назад +8

    This video brought me to tears. I relate to everything she said. It makes sense of my whole life.

  • @jonigarciajg
    @jonigarciajg Год назад +4

    Eating the frog first doesn't work for many with ADHD, because we just don't do anything. For many of us it's more effective to do the simple things or the things were more interested in so that we build momentum

  • @lippycruz3819
    @lippycruz3819 8 месяцев назад +5

    when you mentioned the importance of imagining myself doing those things, I think it's a negative thing for me. It's like tricking my brain into thinking that now I don't have to physically do it, now that I went through all the process in my head.
    Great video though, keep up with the great content. ❤

  • @TheWorldJr
    @TheWorldJr 11 месяцев назад +5

    Dude this is me. That maladaptive perfectionism is holding me back. I'm glad I can clearly hear and see it laid before me. Thank you 🙏🏿

  • @annab13
    @annab13 Год назад +5

    I was doing house work and forgot what I was listening to and thought, "Man that sounds like me!". Then I realised it was. Adhd is like being another species

  • @debbiedebbie9473
    @debbiedebbie9473 Год назад +11

    This is seriously helpful and probably neuro-typical people already knew these things their entire lives. I wish we had appropriate help while growing up. Everything, our entire lives might have come out better than it did.

  • @world_still_spins
    @world_still_spins 9 месяцев назад +2

    33:11 Good advice, resources can change, and "you did the best you could at the time".

  • @vaultdweller966
    @vaultdweller966 Год назад +4

    I have all those flaws. Thank you so much, I can finally identify the root cause of many of my problems.

  • @AwakenThyself
    @AwakenThyself Год назад +5

    I was 40 when I was diagnosed. Put alot of clarity into my life however as the years have gone on and the stress compiled - it amplifies.

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад

      Let us know if we can provide any additional resources or information that will be helpful.

  • @lizziejones
    @lizziejones 8 месяцев назад +3

    I tried to the body double thru Focusmate for the first time today and I loved it! It really help me tackle the piles of laundry that have been so daunting! There were a few times I got distracted and then I remembered I had a goal to meet and got back on task. Looking forward to using this more in the future! Thank you!!

  • @Old52Guy
    @Old52Guy Год назад +5

    Thank you for this. I have lost out on many opportunities because of this need for perfectionism. If anything, the discussion played down, but not by much, how impactful and damaging this facet is.

  • @7177YT
    @7177YT Год назад +2

    I was diagnosed at 44. The only thing that helped me getting my life out of chaos and despair was daily medidation. I rate it as effective as medication in my case. There are immediate benefits too but it offers slower permanent improvements (concentratioon emotional control ...) which take consistent application for a couple months. Try it if u havent. Turned my life around for sure.

  • @abby1nailah
    @abby1nailah Год назад +4

    This deserves way more views. You are describing me at work and I can’t believe how accurate this is. Thank you so much! This is going to help me at work and will probably be life changing.

  • @ProfBoggs
    @ProfBoggs 2 года назад +15

    I was diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 40 just after my child was born while I was going up for tenure. While I've been in treatment for it since then, only in the last year or so have I really started to become aware of my perfectionism. Thanks for this lecture on the topic. It's helped me better understand myself and provided some techniques to attempt.

    • @cocotulle23
      @cocotulle23 2 года назад +2

      GO YOU for getting tenure!!! ❤️

    • @ProfBoggs
      @ProfBoggs 2 года назад

      @@cocotulle23 It was about 11 or 12 years ago, but thank you :)

  • @liz21304
    @liz21304 2 года назад +5

    every single sentence spoke to me. I've been diagnosed since childhood but am still learning how it impacts me. some strategies I knew and some were new to me. I work with children and we use the positive approach model to increase their self esteem and chances of success but not once have I thought to use it on myself. thank you!

  • @ragtimegals
    @ragtimegals 2 года назад +9

    I have ADHD and am a perfectionist. I don’t think I feel the pressure of perfectionism to prove myself to other people, though. My family abused me growing up by constantly putting me down and gaslighting me. They would constantly tell me as a child what a failure I would be in life. I would never have a career, marriage, etc. because I’m just such a horrible person. I feel that my perfectionism comes from me wanting to prove to myself that what they said about me is not true and that I can actually far exceed their low expectations of me. I was always at the top of my class, straight A’s, etc. without ever having to study at all. I learned to read when I was 3, and I don’t know my IQ but my mother was basically a case study for a mental hospital because she had such a crazy high IQ as a child (she also has ADHD). Maybe I am subconsciously people-pleasing but I feel that for me I am trying to beat down those abusive projections hanging over me.
    On a lighter note - before I had to do a presentation once in college, I recorded myself doing it so that I could practice and see what id need to improve. This actually really helped because I realized what I was nervous about wasn’t true - I sounded good, I didn’t look awkward, and the information was we presented. This gave me more confidence for the presentation because if I hadn’t seen myself do it already, I would have been insecure about how I looked/sounded and whether my presentation was good. And yes, even though I was at the top of my class and a 4.0 in college, I worried every time I took a test or did a presentation that I would somehow just mess the whole thing up and get a 0. It’s like I had the imposter syndrome about my own intelligence, and I honestly still do. But I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging about having a high IQ which is what everyone things as soon as you bring it up. It actually has made my life a lot harder I think.

    • @QutaibaX
      @QutaibaX Год назад +6

      I think I am in the same category.. aced my school was top of class, graduated with a very good GPA from college.. but now as I an adult I am finding it difficult to start simple task that most people find not that challenging… I am a perfectionist, I procrastinate, an I worry too much about how people view me sometimes to the point of being people-pleaser.

    • @ragtimegals
      @ragtimegals Год назад +4

      @@QutaibaX me too! The only thing that helps me is to just force myself to start doing something without thinking about it

    • @universaltruth2025
      @universaltruth2025 Год назад +1

      Abuse from childhood can cause complex post traumatic stress disorder. Many of the symptoms v similar to those of adhd. So you may have a double dose from the adhd itself and from cptsd. Two really good people on yt to learn more about cptsd are Richard Grannon and Patrick Teahan

  • @susiehooper2798
    @susiehooper2798 2 года назад +6

    I found this really helpful thank you!
    I'm awaiting my ADHD assessment at the age of 54. My son has ADHD and our difficulties overlap. I got my self esteem by doing well at sciences in secondary school after struggling at primary school and have really pushed myself too hard to do well. Struggles that I've had have led me to procrastinate get anxious and avoid tasks!

  • @cherylkenyon2408
    @cherylkenyon2408 2 года назад +6

    wow!! great advice. I have struggled with this for so long. I like how you say to set a timer for 10 and just start on that task..........

  • @user-jq1mt9pu6m
    @user-jq1mt9pu6m Год назад +2

    All this explains all my struggles through my life and I just turned 51💥

  • @AJMonntana
    @AJMonntana 2 года назад +3

    Thankyou for being open I was hopeless until now.

  • @MosaicLotus
    @MosaicLotus Год назад +2

    Thank you so much! The tools and information are very helpful for me. I am 52 and got diagnosed only two days ago. This is a journey I can now approach with understanding.
    😊

  • @hoperomine2915
    @hoperomine2915 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this video and your way of explaining things. I’m almost 45 and just now started college and have been having some issues with studying, remembering and focusing and someone suggested I may have ADHD and Anxiety and after watching this video it definitely clarifies it! Thank you! I lost focus after about 10 minutes of this video so I’ll have to rewatch it a few times.

  • @amykarnehm3602
    @amykarnehm3602 5 месяцев назад

    5 min in and this is me!!! 55 yrs old and recently diagnosed. Happy to have found this channel!

  • @lindajackson7843
    @lindajackson7843 Год назад +3

    I would so come see you, if I lived in that area! Thank you for this, Sooooo many women suffer in all areas of life in mid life!
    We either fail,or overachieve to compensate, there is no middle unless we have a Dr like yourself! Thanks for all the great info.

  • @omidsafa1
    @omidsafa1 2 года назад +5

    Excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @Tswizzle266
    @Tswizzle266 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was diagnosed this year and I still sometimes don't believe that I have ADHD, and I think having a perfectionism mindset of not measuring up to what my mind has of ADHD has led me to some very bad mental habits.
    Why think that I can do well and let myself build up the expectation? Always let myself have incredibly low bars because it felt more attainable. ☹️
    This year has been a very big learning curve to take care of myself and learn that it's OK to be me.

  • @mariaalvarez3822
    @mariaalvarez3822 Год назад +3

    This is so helpful. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at 38yo.
    I am definitely a perfectionist; I hate and love this about myself.
    Learning to see myself from a different light. Thank you for this video. Incredibly thankful for people like you who are helping us understand ourselves better. 😢❤😅😊

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад

      We're glad that you found it helpful!

  • @countrysister700
    @countrysister700 Год назад +1

    THANK YOU Dr Robbins for the deep dive and detailed precise action points on this subject that drives me crazy as I attempt to create a late life professional career. This video is one of several CHADD videos I've zoned in on and watched this am. Fantastic info presented quickly and concisely with those wonderful Powerpoint points and time stamp prompts. My favorite videos I've seen in a long time!
    66 YO widowed female diagnosed recently after 30yo son was clinically diagnosed. A "teledoc" practice I found agrees that with regular reporting BP I'm a good candidate for medication. Out of pocket I can't afford Vyvanse - the medication that's literally changed my son's life and gives me a quiet, under-the-radar productive, happy day that my generic Adderall doesn't (no insurance for Tx or Rx).

  • @stephmiller2137
    @stephmiller2137 2 года назад +5

    This was an excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @christophermacdonald7012
    @christophermacdonald7012 Год назад +1

    Okay, so I'm halfway though this lecture and I have some issues with her language. "No one is ever in the mood to work all the time" is exactly the kind of dismissive language people with ADHD will hear all the time, and it's a generalized kind of advice that doesn't take into account the specific, non-negotiable obstacles that people with ADHD have to work around. Controlling your environment, and the conditions, are EXACTLY what some of us need to do to give ourselves a fighting chance to succeed. This is trying to apply a mindset change instead of a functional coping strategy. Library is too crowded and distracting? Learn the hours when it's quiet. Too tired to work? Learn when you're the most functional in the day and get the difficult stuff done at that time.
    "Eat the frog first" is great for neurotypicals, but taking on smaller tasks first to build momentum, and get a starting dose of dopamine, is an effective coping strategy when you just don't have enough dopamine in your brain to make it through the big task yet.
    You have ADHD, you have to do things differently. Your success depends on your understanding of your condition as much as it does on your mindset. There is some helpful advice in this talk, but I have my doubts about it's provable effectiveness, and the language used.

  • @ryandsetfree
    @ryandsetfree 2 года назад +7

    This is ridiculously helpful. Thank you!

  • @neko_neko9
    @neko_neko9 Год назад +2

    My god I've just signed up for Focus Mate and it's just amazing!! I've finished my translation without any distractions. Wish I'd known sooner!!!

  • @loriomyoreo8224
    @loriomyoreo8224 2 года назад +1

    Very helpful. I qualify. Viewing your talk really felt like salve for my soul. Thank you.

  • @grayman1
    @grayman1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Avoiding commitments without medication is the hardest thing ever I swear.

  • @evatokarchuk5721
    @evatokarchuk5721 Год назад +3

    Such a good video. But god how difficult it is to go through one hour with ADHD! I now went to the beginning and trying to take notes 😅

  • @adara6707
    @adara6707 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for this. It explains a lot 🙏🏼 xx

  • @annyspb1
    @annyspb1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Tremendously helpful. Thank you - this is a resource I'll keep returning to.

  • @th8257
    @th8257 Год назад +14

    It seems there's an overlap with OCPD / OCD in some cases. I wonder if in years to come, we'll find out they're more related than we currently understand.

    • @ninaromm5491
      @ninaromm5491 Год назад +1

      @ T H . Interesting point. I saw somewhere recently the suggestion that the OCD may be operating not externally, but in the mind. Ordering and re-ordering ideas. That was a BIG AHA! for me.
      Yes !!!! Best regards

    • @Shifterfire
      @Shifterfire Год назад

      Yup! I think OCPD develops as a measure to regain control over all the things you don't notice and getting constantly criticised for things you do wrong that you didn't even realise you did.

  • @kathleenlovett1958
    @kathleenlovett1958 2 года назад +21

    "fear of failure" but what about fear of success‽ Any thoughts on that?

    • @stepha7822
      @stepha7822 2 года назад +7

      I remember being a kid and the first time I feared the success I had achieved...why??

    • @kalidoscope3270
      @kalidoscope3270 2 года назад +1

      Exactly! Nobody speak about that!

    • @KarriSimone
      @KarriSimone Год назад +2

      I consistently hear a quote in my head saying "Are you afraid to fail or are you afraid of success?" I used to believed it was failure only but the truth is being successful and not maintaining is sometimes a bigger fear.

    • @pattie1411
      @pattie1411 Год назад +2

      Isn’t the fear of success just another version of failure? Kind of like pride and self hatred? “I am afraid to succeed because, if I do, then I will have a steeper fall if I fail later.” 🤔

    • @KerryFairbanks
      @KerryFairbanks 10 месяцев назад

      Toxic meekness

  • @MrZombietoucher
    @MrZombietoucher 3 месяца назад

    You called me out with my own stuff and i need to learn how to call myself out. Its hard but i need to start. Thank you for this.

  • @isabelcorthierphotographer717
    @isabelcorthierphotographer717 Год назад +1

    Thank, very clarifying!

  • @TheHalfmanofOz
    @TheHalfmanofOz 11 месяцев назад +1

    A brutally relatable analysis. Thank you.

  • @jennifermorinedwards462
    @jennifermorinedwards462 Год назад +2

    "Productive Procrastination" was a new learned term for me. Thank you!

  • @olgadalekorey3822
    @olgadalekorey3822 Год назад +1

    Very helpful lecture. Thank you

  • @angiebabesdarboe3944
    @angiebabesdarboe3944 3 месяца назад

    I’m 55 and still don’t have the diagnosis of ADHD yet, I have been diagnosed with lupus and BPD, I got 96% on an exam but when I got home my dad asked what happened to the other 4% I knew nothing was ever going to be good enough for him

  • @JamieHumeCreative
    @JamieHumeCreative 7 месяцев назад

    Well that was intense. Thank you for keeping it consice and without filler. I hate filler.

  • @phyliciajoykloes
    @phyliciajoykloes Год назад +3

    Oof, thank you for this video! My colleague actually mentioned the other day that perfectionism can be related to ADHD. I've recognized a lot of the listed things regarding to ADHD/ADD. Interesting to learn about this.

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад

      We're glad this video got your interest. You can find more on adult ADHD at chadd.org/for-adults/overview/ or give us a call, 866-200-8098 M-T 1-5 PM ET.

  • @ProfBoggs
    @ProfBoggs 2 года назад +7

    Perchance do you have any other videos or resources focused on strategies for research faculty with ADHD? I was intrigued by the mention at ca. 25:40 example of the professor using FocusMate.

  • @afreaknamedallie1707
    @afreaknamedallie1707 Год назад +4

    It does kind if rub me wrong that I got this video suggested to me after rewatching a fellow adhd person explaining why the eat the frog mentality is a neurotypical kind of advice being forced onto brains that don't really function that way.
    I also wished that people suggested other things than "mindfulness" and "meditation." Literally half the time I'm having a serious issue with something not being perfect, it's a fully "present moment" issue and the problem is often the physical sensation of my body in that second of time. Being even more mindful of the thing that is causing me distress by focusing even more on how my body feels only makes me spiral, and meditation in general makes me itchy--body, mind, and soul. The only times I feel anything remotely similar to "meditative" is when I'm doing physical activities like running or other aerobic movements, playing a musical instrument while in the zone, or being hyoerfocused on something. When I try to meditate following the methods always presented I genuinely get agitated and feel aggressive. It is not comforting, comfortable, and usually just creates additional physical and mental stress. But when I voice this concern to meditation being constantly thrust on me I get treated like I'm just a child throwing a temper tantrum and not an adult trying to explain their physical and mental state.

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад +1

      Each person is different and if you ADHD with a hyperactive/impulsive presentation, exercise can be very helpful. Here is more information chadd.org/?s=exercise

  • @CommittedtoCalm
    @CommittedtoCalm 2 месяца назад

    Me, having anxiety because this is hitting home so much LOL I was just diagnosed with ADHD last year at age 46. So much makes sense now. My psychiatrist and I have been working on treating me for severe anxiety for so many years. I am realizing that a lot of my anxiety has come from ADHD and not understanding it. My mother has OCD so I didn't think I was a perfectionist. But I am a perfectionist when it comes to social interactions and work. I love being aware of these things now because that means I have a place to work from. And it gives me confidence knowing that I can work on something tangible

  • @isabellaqueiroz4941
    @isabellaqueiroz4941 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this 🙏🌈 so helpful ❤️

  • @chriscrosbymusic
    @chriscrosbymusic 5 месяцев назад

    Great information! Thanks for the work you do.

  • @wilsel1394
    @wilsel1394 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @SusKa22
    @SusKa22 6 месяцев назад

    I am convinced I have AUDHD and perfectionism. Kind of imposter. But I am fine with it. I like to be alone after being in crowded places. I always felt myself different. And after a lot of failures my self esteem was below zero. I am Improving gradually. I am fulltime mother by the way and I do it well. Since I educate myself I understand myself a lot better. And coop with the way I am. Thanks for this information 👍

  • @mr._sharpe
    @mr._sharpe 7 месяцев назад +1

    I was 10 when I was diagnosed and I think that it actually made things worse for me. Being diagnosed and medicated that early just magnified the already existing inferiority complex. The medication took a part of my personality that I have desperately been searching for. I still haven’t completely grasped it at 35..I used to be a productive perfectionist but since i was diagnosed it turned into paralysis as a result of being extremely self conscious. I can remember being a willing and eager student but I slowly started to hate learning. I felt like I had been diagnosed with mental retardation. Idk why.
    I say this to say; maybe being diagnosed later in life isn’t such a bad thing.

  • @debbiedebbie9473
    @debbiedebbie9473 Год назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video. ❤️

  • @margaritagaona
    @margaritagaona Год назад

    I am finally understanding everything.

  • @maralsa1
    @maralsa1 4 месяца назад

    i just got diagnosed... im so sad, but this video helped me so much... thank you

  • @sydneyann7713
    @sydneyann7713 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for this!!!

  • @julin8597
    @julin8597 10 месяцев назад

    I am blown away. This is so me. I know I have potential and talent but somehow I never start or complete things. It’s almost like I can’t and it scares me. I was thinking I had a defeatist mind set

  • @constantina63
    @constantina63 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @BenTheMiller
    @BenTheMiller Год назад

    This is great thank you

  • @dwayneneckles
    @dwayneneckles Год назад +1

    Were they any tips given on dealing with avoidance procrastination as described here at 12:15. The problem was outlined well, but I may have missed it.

  • @KatieKat369
    @KatieKat369 6 месяцев назад +1

    I do this with txting even, I have to go back and correct it and sometimes get overwhelmed and just give up. Then people think I’m ignoring them.

  • @alissap1290
    @alissap1290 Год назад +4

    I’m best friends with my husband, we love and are attracted to each other but when it comes to intimacy, I get so in my head. It takes a lot for me to enjoy it. I’m very critical of every thing he does. I try not to be but feel so much anxiety in my body. I often end up crying cause I can’t “ do it right” he’s not judging me at all but somehow I am judging myself. I get mad that I can’t enjoy it and tense up more. Is this a common thing for people with adhd? I don’t want to stay stuck in this but am hoping I’m not alone.

    • @pattie1411
      @pattie1411 Год назад +3

      Hey, definitely not alone. I’m divorced now, but I had the same problem when I was married. I think mine was a combination of adhd/perfectionism/previous sexual abuse. I wish I could give you a silver bullet, but I can’t. It helps to admit that you’re feeling anxious and breathe through it together, sometimes having the assurance from your partner helps with the performance anxiety. Another really good option would be couples or sex therapy. This is a very common thing for women because abuse is so rampant so having a professional help walk you guys through it might help.
      I know it’s hard, for me I would try so many things to “get in the mood” since my ex was extremely critical if I wasn’t. I even resorted to trying to fake excitement just to avoid the criticism or disappointing him. I’m glad this doesn’t seem to be your experience, I just wanted to share some of mine so you know that your feelings and struggles are valid ❤️. Best wishes

    • @HaHaLooLoo
      @HaHaLooLoo Год назад

      omg... I AM LIKE THIS

  • @MOhamed-hq7zj
    @MOhamed-hq7zj Год назад +2

    Due to the nature of my job I have been unable to try out alot of things, also I tend to be forgetful of things so I went to the hospital and I was asked to conduct some tests. When the doctors told me I had ADHD, and meeting Dr Iyhere after all these so called treatments, my life has been quite difficult.

  • @maryr7593
    @maryr7593 Год назад +1

    Those of you who can't listen, I suggest you listen to video while doing a mind numbing task...washing dishes, sorting papers, picking toys or folding laundry. Also a suggestion is to do your online window shopping. I actually need to do something else besides just listen...some folks knit. Keeps their hands busy but mind can just listen. Another thought is to read the transcript by the description BUT the accuracy of transcript is dependent on the ai program which interpreted the speech.

    • @HelpForADHD
      @HelpForADHD  Год назад

      Thank you for sharing these great suggestions! The information provided is important and helpful!

  • @bengrimm622
    @bengrimm622 2 года назад +2

    I made myself a cripple perfecting minimum wage jobs. So I have nothing to show for it. And was obviously kicked to the curb the second I got hurt.

  • @roysmith7087
    @roysmith7087 Год назад

    I've been diagnosed ADHD but I'm not driven except that my work needs to be flawless
    I wonder because I want consistent life that maybe I might be autistic
    I don't like things being different.
    I get distracted and forget where I left off
    I have to leave cues for myself to remember to finish what I started
    I get the way you describe this procrastinating and depression.
    I'm there.
    I can't ever be good enough.
    I also have a criminal record and can't seem to raise myself above anything beyond just a basic job.
    I feel like my entire life is destroyed.
    I'm trying to figure out how to get past this

  • @victoriaalbastra6325
    @victoriaalbastra6325 Год назад +1

    What do you mean celebrate your own success? Is that something people do? Unironically? Isn't success the least you should do to be good enough? Do I have ADHD?

  • @MimiMangetsu
    @MimiMangetsu 2 месяца назад

    I'm trying to get diagnosed, but because my grades were good before my burnout/depression, the doctor thinks I just have residual symptoms from depression. I have always struggled with motivation. I get easily interested and excited about new things, but often hyperfocus on details and then my energy runs out and I never finish anything without deadlines. I had many common symptoms of inattentive ADHD as a child, but the DIVA-5 sadly focuses on outward symptoms. I also experienced childhood trauma, so it could be that, ADHD or both. I was a reserved kid, but often got very talkative with friends, not understanding social rules about when to speak and small talk. But to every adult I was a well behaved smart kid, who just daydreamed often.
    I have worked on my perfectionism for a while, but I feel like it is natural to me to be detail oriented and go with the flow. I have tried many studying methods now in uni, but the best for me is just read through things, and not get stuck. As a perfectionist it is hard to not google every thought I get during studying. I have also started to just write essays without meticulous planning, because if I plan too much I get bored. This is still a journey, but next I'm trying to desensitize myself to failing!

  • @jodiecatlin3790
    @jodiecatlin3790 Год назад +1

    This is almost definitely me! OMG

  • @giovannamoro8564
    @giovannamoro8564 Год назад +1

    By looking at the definition of adhd we could than conclude that every single object that is very well designed and perfectly manufactured is the product of an adhd mind but I really don't it is. Some people have a inner sense of aesthetic beauty,proportions ,elegance and attention to details. This human quality applies to objects but not exclusevely .

  • @lauracastromunoz8947
    @lauracastromunoz8947 5 месяцев назад

    OMG!! Stop talking about me... jaaaa!! I'm exactly like that... I can't believe how accurate your description is!!!😲😹

  • @marcomoon6062
    @marcomoon6062 2 года назад +1

    10:17 the thought of... if I fail at being perfect then I at least did good enough

  • @ericav3284
    @ericav3284 2 года назад +2

    i would really appreciate having access to the ppt slides of these presentations, please.

    • @amythoner702
      @amythoner702 Год назад +1

      You can just take screen shots : ) I did....

  • @brianc11388
    @brianc11388 Год назад +3

    What if you don't know how to get started during that time you're using focus mate? For me the next time I have to be even more structured and more structured with a usual spiral into just giving up.

    • @pattie1411
      @pattie1411 Год назад +2

      This is me entirely. Several times a day I have to stop everything and have a heart to heart with myself. If I don’t, I end up restricting and restricting until I inevitably explode and become a potato for three days. 🥔

  • @roysmith7087
    @roysmith7087 Год назад

    I totally understand avoiding
    I get things started but I'm afraid I won't or can't finish it
    On probation, I'm afraid to start things because I'm afraid of ending back in jail or prison and never getting the original project completed

  • @thejoeblowshow
    @thejoeblowshow Год назад +2

    Oh, how wrong you can be. . . This video "is perfect!" : - ) I finally found the video that I've been searching for. You explain the root cause of perfectionism and ADHD perfectly. Thank you so much!

  • @A_Lex
    @A_Lex 4 месяца назад

    Oh, that's my problem. I'm like jesuit to myself and others, especially those whom I value. I just can't stand crying.

  • @Rainar100
    @Rainar100 Год назад +1

    I entered academia because of perfectionism, but do my strengths even support it? Now I suffer under this burden to be the best here as well. I could do activities that I may like for a living, but these are perhaps not so "honorable", but I can't seem to settle for anything less. Doing these "less" activities, I also feel not valuable. Well, well…

  • @annetteka
    @annetteka 6 месяцев назад

    Tone, cadence and speed… changing the latter never works for me. Tried but faster didn’t make it any better or easier to engage. I either instantly can follow, and ideally both content and delivery align, or I have to eject/abort. This is right down my street.. despite adult adhd, I can follow endlessly it’s genuine, sincere, succinct and at the right ‘speed’. I used to be faster (brain still runs its own velocities) but since hitting Mesopause my needs and perceptions have shifted big time. What I used to be able to put up with I’m no longer a slave to. I still respond to the drum-hum (always will!) but its urgency has shifted. Do NOT underestimate the power of your hormonal im/balance onto your self perception and wellbeing.
    Relatability consists of a multitude of individual predispositions, parameters and preferences. I’d argue age/stage in life of both receiver and deliverer, impact more than we might consider at first. Don’t force it I’d say. Kudos if you can adjust the intake for contents’ sake and stomach any accompanying aches.

  • @skrunkle615
    @skrunkle615 6 месяцев назад

    this is me !

  • @bbtank3000
    @bbtank3000 24 дня назад

    For Perfectionists, it's a tragic self-fulfilling prophecy:
    By worrying about failure, our worry causes us to underperform. Whereas, if we were more carefree and had more confidence, our performance would better align with the high standards we set for ourselves.

  • @andreil1234
    @andreil1234 6 месяцев назад

    You know, big part of the problem at least when it comes to jobs is the increased number of bs jobs and bs tasks that quite obviously don't bring any service or value but are nevertheless demanded of people. This is also painfully true in the academic environments and even secondary school.
    What 99% fail to do is speak up and try changing things.
    Another point I'm trying to make is that situations like these where you really have to invent an incentive to do something are pushing people even further into this spiral.
    Falling to speak up destroys your moral integrity and further lowers your sense of self worth.
    Cheers!

  • @june2110
    @june2110 Год назад +2

    I was scared to announce my disability at a job because ppl treat you different like your slow and that makes me feel dumb and I don't like that because I know I'm not dumb I just learn differently. I am a visual learner...