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@@micahquiton7731 Yeah like an entire arc with him as the villain that was already written and partially animated that could've easily been added *DISNEY.*
If you and I are on the same page@@KoalaTContent, then I believe that you're talking about the Crystal Crisis Arc, which to this day I'm sad we don't get to see that one in its finished state. I'd also love to see an arc that showcases why Grievous was such a terrible threat, whether that be his military tactics, or his lightsaber prowess.
Micah Quiton Yeah. Why is no one talking more about Grievous and his brief cameo in this episode? Also, what made Grievous so dangerous was not only his lightsaber skills, but also his strategic mind.
Ludwig The Medic he technically was already one. Since he refused promotion he was treated as a special case but since he wasn’t an official commander they couldn’t head to Mandalore which is why he was promoted
@1993DJC It just is. There isn't a how. Military terminology can be far less tame. Consider the distinction in the UK between a "commanding officer" and an "officer commanding".
1993DJC In the army, commanders outrank captains. While in the navy, captains outrank the commanders. But when you got a mixed personals from the army and navy, eg. On a warship where there might be army troops stationed aboard, it’s hard to know who has a higher rank.
Idk why but I was really sad when captain Vaughan died and how he reached for ashoka's hand and said I'm sorry Commander and also hearing clones screaming and dying a minute before that
The entire time I was questioning why none of the clones wer watching their flanks or why more did not come...you don’t need to be told what looks like an ambush but it’s still a show...
That was fast... Loved seeing clones back in action. The fights in the other episodes just didn't do it for me. This one did. RIP Vaughn... He joins Denal as another clone that had far too little screen time.
turd burglar egg roll garlic bread yes thank you. Granted these are only a few names but I’d say some of the bravest soldiers in the grand army of the republic
@@mixer1307 Especially in the S2 episode "Landing at Point Rain," where there's some clone and his bros just joking saying "good thing those bugs can't aim," only to be blown up with the joking clone grabbing and then losing hold of the LAAT.
Last Rookie yeah that was crazy to watch as a kid! Made the show so good tho, always felt bad for the clones, made me side with them more and despise the separatists
Why was he so special to y'all? I'm a fan of the series and I can't remember him from before :o I mean yes he was cool. But I'm confused :/ Admittedly I haven't rewatched the whole series to begin with. I just jumped into Season 7 when it came out.
@@brokkoliomg6103 Maybe there's some more of him in the EU, but I don't read that. He's another clone that looked different from the other fodder troops, so we wanted him to live a little more. Could've become another Fives in screen time, but instead he becomes another Waxer, Boil, Denali, Matchstick, Tag, Pawns, Thorne, Thire (though he didn't die), Cut-Up, Chapper (unknown), Havoc, Colt, Broadside, and probably many others I can't think of off the top of my head.
I think you missed a pretty important detail, these missiles aren't air defense, they were supercommando sent to take out LAATs. The use of Y-wings in this case is also pointless because not only are they quite big, but the whole infrastructure of the city is under a big dome and using them would probably end up with unnecessary losses. Sending Bo Katan fighters would probably lead to even greater losses in gunships because I'm sure they were also carrying soldiers who started to protect the invading fleet at the right time.
The city is under a dome but there would be defenses of some sort on the landing ports. The mandalorians would put up something how ever crude it might be it would be there and need to be dealt with. However that is a good connection on the missiles I completely did not consider that they were fired by the supercomandos that adds an element to the later quote in rebels that “ a mandalorian with a jet pack is a weapon”
@@ThatDragonGuy Probably it would be, but in my opinion tanks were used as anti-aircraft weapons or as a defence of docks against counterattack, we can't see where they used them, additionally, contrary to appearances, the city also has big squares where AT-TE can guard the order after defeating the supercommandos.
@@coopergunter6462 The defense of the landing ports apparently consisted of suppercommando, no cannon or fighter defense is visible. Supercommando were quite quickly overwhelmed by clones and mandolorians.
@@gamespcfull7201 tanks in a city specialy one like this is a disaster tanks preform best in open teratory that includes the AT Te its big cant look around corners and the enemy doesnt have armor just anoying infantry so i whould not use the AT TE they are just big targets for them in a city. And the AT TE canon is to powerfull. Those smaller walkers are better in a city but still are open toped so somthing like a ATST whould be the solution. Good vs infantery and not too big but still armored. And smaller guns with a higher fire rate. And you need somthing with AA capabilities i whould use a juglenaught tank if i had the dropships for it. It got enoth air missiles and armor so if HEAVy supported by infantery that cleares out sectors it could stop any counter attack by the enemy.
Not gonna lie when I first saw that scene I thought it was some kind of vision Ahsoka had, because she could only hear the clones and despite being only a few seconds behind them, she couldn’t catch up and only found them dead.
Vojta Janda Well... they’re conducting a ground invasion, one where they cannot just blow everything up. On the flip side, the rest of the fleet was going to join a space battle, where the fighters would have even needed, and not ground forces.
They could have left a smaller contingent anyway. And it does not excuse the lack of reconnaissance, even with inside information from the Loyalist Mandos, and their underuse of uncontested orbital superiority
@@rodrigogascagomez5190 Use their space supremacy how? The battle didn't occur on the ground, it was urban warfare. In Star Wars, orbital bombardments are nowhere near as effective as you'd think. Think of it more like World War 1 artillery, where you'd be lucky to land a shell within 200m of the target. As it stands, the Republic ran what was very much a hearts and minds campaign, where the focus was on the PEOPLE, not the planet. Bombing Mandalore would've been terrible for the Republic's ultimate goal
Calmgoodfire i would imagine an actual anti air system would utilise guidance in its rockets as well. The Mandalorian rockets seem to only have guidance when the plot suits it, otherwise they just fly around in circles sometimes hitting targets.
Din Djarin: I can't let you do that. Gideon: (chuckles) Really? Do you not see the situation your in. Your completely surrounded. Din Djarin: (Smirks) You should've brought more. Gideon: (glares) I have an army. Din Djarin: And I got the darksaber. (Din ignites the blade and get into a blattle stance. Gideon on the other hand has only one thing to say.) Gideon: ...... well shit.
I love how every clones calls Ahsoka commander, although at that point she‘s just an advisor and Rex is the commander.Loyalty is very important too them...but first comes the Senate ! XD
The battle might be short, yes, but you have to take into consideration that the enemies are living beings. Not endless wave after wave of droids--who can be replaced in a matter of seconds. The Republic is simply flushing out a group of #Mauldalorian soldiers who are already severely limited in numbers due to their immense losses in the SoD comic & other previous engagements.
Something I appreciated about this episode is that it neatly answered something I've been wondering for a while now: Obviously the only way Maul could escape from Palpatine is if Sheev LET him get away, so how does Maul on the loose play into Palpatine's plans? And the reveal that the whole attack on Mandalore was intended by Maul as a trap for Obi-wan gives a pretty good reason: Letting Maul go is a ploy by Palpatine to get Anakin separated from Obi-wan. If Ahsoka hadn't been in the picture, then Obi-wan could very well have been the one going to Mandalore while Anakin went to Corosant.
This, my thinking is that Sheev wanted things to happen mid assault making it difficult for them to call it off/ abort. Obi wan likely would have been in the fighting etc and committed to taking down maul and anakin wouldve come alone to coruscant. Sheev knows maul is good enough to keep Kenobi occupied long enough for order 66 to be in play and theres no way he escapes deathwatch and the clone forces.
@finaldarkfire -- Maul: Son of Dathomir already answered all of that--it was an unfinished 4-episode story arc that they chose not to finish for this series finale which is weird since it was a huge gap in the show after all. This is why they should've gone and animated that story as well. There's so many people that still haven't read that comic or know all the key events that even took place in that comic.
Well too be fair to the republic, They had to scramble up a plan since it was such a sudden attack and most of the star fighters were needed for he battle of Coruscant.
That and the fact that Bo even said in the episode, "There's *no time*. My people are dying under Maul's control. Every second we waste is a chance for Maul to easily slip away" -- paraphrasing all of this cuz it's been a while, but she basically said all of that. Timing is everything.
Vishnu Gudivada Well,they *do* reach the ground......sometimes too fast or in the wrong place but unless it gets completely atomized or incinerated it should reach some patch of ground(maybe inside a black hole if destroyed in space)
Plus we have seen the AT-TE used as a mobile command center. The problem with RT walkers would be that they were open bike-like walkers that would leave the drivers exposed to jet pack mandos.
IMO this was the best episode yet. I absolutely LOVED this one. That opening sequence with that INCREDIBLE model of Grievous, the short scenes involving the Jedi at their place of death, and that GLORIOUS opening battle on the bridge was probably the most happy I’ve been in over a year. Don’t even get me STARTED on the fact that I literally cried at the reunion scene on the Venator. Ugh this entire episode was amazing.
Given the circumstances over Coruscant, I think Anakin took the 501st's fighters with him to that battle, which meant that the Mandalore assault force probably didn't have enough fighters to do a proper screen for the transports.
I'd like to take the time to point out the fact that we never see anyone using surface to air missles. Or half decent AA for that matter. Everything they use are just repurposed from other rolls.
This episode was literally the best content I've every seen in my life. Better than the mandalorian, better than the other clone wars episodes, better than even the movies. I absolutely loved the episode to death and have watched it 8 times now (I normally watch stuff once).
You have to remember though... This isn't the full 501st. it's a smaller division. They might not have all their vehicles, especially depending on what type of combat they were outfitted for
This episode was awesome!!! Great banter between Kenobi and Anakin to start the episode. Ashoka is such a skilled warrior making the deathwatch forces look silly during the blitz of mandolore. Commander Rex promotion well earned.
Nothing like Star Wars battles and life to keep you sane. Love the vids man. It’s been one of the few things relieving my boredom, and I’ve learned a bit more than I would’ve just watching the show. Love the work you do, and I look forward to your next vid.
I think the big things are: The AT-TE has heavy armor, but also seems to have a grappling ability, which could allow it to utilize open spaces vertically. The immediate attack with all ships allows the Republic to lock down the city quickly, without giving Maul an opportunity to escape. The reduced number of defenders means that in all likelihood, it's a search and destroy that's necessary, not necessarily stiff urban combat on all fronts.
Suggestion for a video to discuss: Why a fleet in the clone wars was usually composed of 3 venator class cruisers every time. (i.e to attack blockades, usual jedi transports, etc.)
Cuz usually when fighting tons of frigates, the republic usually has a standard of 3 venator cruisers to fight 5-10 frigates so I’m amazed and confused haha
The art in clone wars is better and more detailed while rebels make everyone look so ugly. Look at Bo in rebels. I she looks like a woman in her late 60’s.
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
ECLIPSExGAMING RIP Forge. A book should written where Forge Johnson and Buck all fight together. Then at the end of the book all 3 just chill at a bar.
During the end of tur series and order 66 is a active it would be cool to see rex tackle one of his men as they try to kill ashoka and ripping off his helmet like he did during umbra
@@joebond545 Being assosiated with the republic doesn't mean theyll be killed it sounds like yoyr saying senators or palpy will die to 66 too from your logic
@@mattgolka6266 well everyone knows what goes down on mandalore, ashoka and maul are attacked by the clones so I don't know what logic there is to it but it happens
I’m pretty sure the Mandalorian ‘anti-air’ missiles were from the Mandalorian Jetpacks. Also, I don’t think the AT-TE was planned to be used inside the city, but to hunker down outside to stop anyone leaving, because it is technically a Siege operation
Siege of Mandalore episode 3: 28 minutes of clones shooting Bariss Offee in her prison cell follows by a shot of Dave Filoni "There... No more questions if Barris will show up again"
What i imagine for the star destroyers staying in orbit is keeping them out of range if the mandos. Last thing you need is your ship being commandeered by super commandos
This battle was no where near as bad as that one since here all they had to deal with were the super commando's which they managed to fight through, Geonosis they had to fight through an airforce and an extensive AA network
While I agree that the anti-air assets were a threat to the LAATs, remember that the Republic needed to land quickly. From the Republic's perspective, any skirmishes before the landing could alert Maul to their presence and give him time to escape.
All is set perfectly with that episode, in few week we'll have everything (almost) beetwin ep 2 and 3, the integral of Star Wars will be not really but almost perfect.
I agree with the point about what the strategy that 501st used during the invasion, but I believe that the best explanation for this is that all these happened in a sudden, which leaves Rex and Ahsoka does not have the best equipments to conquer the city.
The Dome around the city was built specifically to withstand orbital bombardment, it would be pointless to put the cruisers at risk within range of whatever defense the city does have, without a purpose or objective ...
As much as I think the domes could withstand some shelling, I don't think that was their purpose. I'm quite sure the domes are in place to protect against the currently hostile environment of the world. Think of a concept for Martian domed cities. Great to protect against the inhospitable landscape but might not help too much if anyone wants to attack them.
FuckinAntiPope for continuity. My point is, why introduce characters in the last episodes that have no relevance to the overall arc. I understand Ahsoka was on a journey but that journey could have been handled differently.
I initially agreed with your statement that a force of strike fighters sent in first to suppress or destroy anti-air defenses (a SEAD/DEAD mission) before the gunships carrying troops would have been a smarter plan, but I'm starting to think that the Docks didn't actually have any anti-air defenses. It's possible that the missiles that struck the gunships in the opening volleys of the air battle were not actually surface-to-air missiles but jetpack missiles launched by Mandalorian super-commandos hiding in the clouds, considering they emerge from the cloud layer seconds later. If the only air power or defenses the Mandalorians had were their super-commandos, then perhaps it'd be too difficult to intercept them with actual fighters and Rex's forces would just have to expect to have troopers and ARC troopers fight Mandalorians from gunship to gunship, making liberal use of jetpacks.
An important note on the forces used for the invasion. Every ship and vehicle used from the Mandalorian fighters to the LAATs and AT-TEs double as troop transports. AT-TEs can carry 20 troopers last I checked and the Mandalorian ships can carry at least 8-10 warriors. The AT-TEs would also be useful for securing and holding the LZ with it's 6 anti-personnel turrets and armored exterior. While AT-RTs are more suited to a blitz type of attack, they are exceedingly lightly armored and Mandalorians are infinitely more agile than the walkers. AT-RTs would get outflanked quite easily while taking up more room on the walkways of Sundari than a squad of troopers would. The balance between size, mobility, and firepower is in favor of trooper squads rather than AT-RTs in Sundari. Additionally, there didn't seem to be enough room at the LZ in Sundari for an AT-RT drop like Umbara. Umbara was more or less an open field with moderate flora present and without an enormous Domed City blocking the flight path of the LAATs.
The only reason I can see why the republic didn’t send fighters into the battle was because I think they stuck with Obi-Wan and Anakin to support the space battle over Coruscant.
When you think about it jango gets his revenge against death watch with his clones ( obviously) snuffing out vizlas legacy and avenging jaster, his family, and the true mandalorians
if you see the beginning when they introduce the outer rim sieges, you can see a lot of providence class dreadnoughts assaulting republic fleets. There is a similar scene in the 2003 clone wars and i thought it was a nice nod to the original 2003 version.
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Hey Eck, I don’t know if you’ll see this comment but I have an idea for a few possible videos if you’re running out of ideas. How about a few videos of the ships that each faction used after the Battle of Endor in Canon, Legends and EU. An example would be the Penta-Star Allignment using the Vengence-Class Dreadnought etc. Keep up the great content. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I agree that episode 9 is one of the best ones. I'm also planning on watching the episodes revolving around the Citadel.
This was unexpected but I’m glad you made it!! What happen to the battle breakdown for umbara??
Ha i commented before you
Keaton Burton you had me in the first half ngl
Can we just appreciate how cool grievous looked in that 1 shot
I really wish we could get more of him.
*sigh*
@@micahquiton7731 Yeah like an entire arc with him as the villain that was already written and partially animated that could've easily been added *DISNEY.*
If you and I are on the same page@@KoalaTContent, then I believe that you're talking about the Crystal Crisis Arc, which to this day I'm sad we don't get to see that one in its finished state.
I'd also love to see an arc that showcases why Grievous was such a terrible threat, whether that be his military tactics, or his lightsaber prowess.
He looked bad ass
Micah Quiton
Yeah. Why is no one talking more about Grievous and his brief cameo in this episode? Also, what made Grievous so dangerous was not only his lightsaber skills, but also his strategic mind.
It's nice to see that Rex finally was promoted to Commander.
Ludwig The Medic ya only for one battle 😂
That promotion lasted for like 2 days lmao
In my book experience outranks everything
Ludwig The Medic he technically was already one. Since he refused promotion he was treated as a special case but since he wasn’t an official commander they couldn’t head to Mandalore which is why he was promoted
Yeah but it doesn't sound right to me
One of the best moments is that the LAAT pilot DOES NOT DIE, unlike every other shot down LAAT pilot.
Well unlike most other pilots his ship didn’t touch the ground yet
Even when the Badbatch tried they couldn’t save their LAAT Gunship Pilot......F to all the Pilots who didn’t make it out a crash/explosion(s)
LAAT pilot ejection seat now canon.
I mean, most other LAAT pilots don't have a ex-jedi conveniently jump on thier ship and open the malfunctioning canopy so...
Every laat next to the protagonist's one: a bueno adios master
It is just so pleasing to hear “ Commander Rex”
@1993DJC It just is. There isn't a how. Military terminology can be far less tame. Consider the distinction in the UK between a "commanding officer" and an "officer commanding".
1993DJC In the army, commanders outrank captains. While in the navy, captains outrank the commanders. But when you got a mixed personals from the army and navy, eg. On a warship where there might be army troops stationed aboard, it’s hard to know who has a higher rank.
1993DJC it depends on the force that is using the ranks to decide what outranks what
@@CaptainM792 Which army use the title Commander?
For Clone Ranks, Commander is the highest, then Captain, lieutenant, and Sergeant
Idk why but I was really sad when captain Vaughan died and how he reached for ashoka's hand and said I'm sorry Commander and also hearing clones screaming and dying a minute before that
Yeah, I also found it quiet petrifying, seeing how they were all scattered around
The entire time I was questioning why none of the clones wer watching their flanks or why more did not come...you don’t need to be told what looks like an ambush but it’s still a show...
It's always sad when clones die
@@sikid4000 yes yes
It being a tv show isn’t relevant
That was fast...
Loved seeing clones back in action. The fights in the other episodes just didn't do it for me. This one did.
RIP Vaughn...
He joins Denal as another clone that had far too little screen time.
Ya same
FOR THE REPUBLIC
He will be put on the wall of heroes alongside Fives, Commander Thorn, and *sniff* 99
Dues Caymania and the clone that punched the battle droid
turd burglar egg roll garlic bread yes thank you. Granted these are only a few names but I’d say some of the bravest soldiers in the grand army of the republic
Rip CT-0292
2:30 "The Republic… breaking treaties"
*Obi-Wan:* Breaking the rules of warfare is our speciality.
Anakin's specialty*
Obi Wan's was invoking the Yavin Code.
Republic strategy in every battle:
Throw LAAT's at a heavily fortified position until you win
It’s bitter sweet seeing them explode, like damn that’s epic but the poor clones inside just got pulverized
@@mixer1307 Especially in the S2 episode "Landing at Point Rain," where there's some clone and his bros just joking saying "good thing those bugs can't aim," only to be blown up with the joking clone grabbing and then losing hold of the LAAT.
Last Rookie yeah that was crazy to watch as a kid! Made the show so good tho, always felt bad for the clones, made me side with them more and despise the separatists
Works every time
Any other suggestions?
RIP Vaughn , you didn't have enough screen time you deserve.
Why was he so special to y'all?
I'm a fan of the series and I can't remember him from before :o
I mean yes he was cool. But I'm confused :/
Admittedly I haven't rewatched the whole series to begin with. I just jumped into Season 7 when it came out.
Brokkoli OMG this is his first appearance
@@brokkoliomg6103 Maybe there's some more of him in the EU, but I don't read that. He's another clone that looked different from the other fodder troops, so we wanted him to live a little more. Could've become another Fives in screen time, but instead he becomes another Waxer, Boil, Denali, Matchstick, Tag, Pawns, Thorne, Thire (though he didn't die), Cut-Up, Chapper (unknown), Havoc, Colt, Broadside, and probably many others I can't think of off the top of my head.
Dude had a 1 day promotion
@@DanielMendoza-qq5pv At least he died with that promotion. Would've sucked if he got demoted for some reason mid-way and then died. Ouch.
I think you missed a pretty important detail, these missiles aren't air defense, they were supercommando sent to take out LAATs. The use of Y-wings in this case is also pointless because not only are they quite big, but the whole infrastructure of the city is under a big dome and using them would probably end up with unnecessary losses. Sending Bo Katan fighters would probably lead to even greater losses in gunships because I'm sure they were also carrying soldiers who started to protect the invading fleet at the right time.
Wouldn't using tanks also be overkill?
The city is under a dome but there would be defenses of some sort on the landing ports. The mandalorians would put up something how ever crude it might be it would be there and need to be dealt with. However that is a good connection on the missiles I completely did not consider that they were fired by the supercomandos that adds an element to the later quote in rebels that “ a mandalorian with a jet pack is a weapon”
@@ThatDragonGuy Probably it would be, but in my opinion tanks were used as anti-aircraft weapons or as a defence of docks against counterattack, we can't see where they used them, additionally, contrary to appearances, the city also has big squares where AT-TE can guard the order after defeating the supercommandos.
@@coopergunter6462 The defense of the landing ports apparently consisted of suppercommando, no cannon or fighter defense is visible. Supercommando were quite quickly overwhelmed by clones and mandolorians.
@@gamespcfull7201 tanks in a city specialy one like this is a disaster tanks preform best in open teratory that includes the AT Te its big cant look around corners and the enemy doesnt have armor just anoying infantry so i whould not use the AT TE they are just big targets for them in a city. And the AT TE canon is to powerfull. Those smaller walkers are better in a city but still are open toped so somthing like a ATST whould be the solution. Good vs infantery and not too big but still armored. And smaller guns with a higher fire rate. And you need somthing with AA capabilities i whould use a juglenaught tank if i had the dropships for it. It got enoth air missiles and armor so if HEAVy supported by infantery that cleares out sectors it could stop any counter attack by the enemy.
The last time I was this early, Darth maul was dead.
Last time I was this early Ahsoka was hated by the fans
He never stays dead
Haha
@@ahsokatano5498 you're still my favorite though General Tano
@@sugdolomar Very much appreciated ♥️
Ashoka: What's in their?
Captain Vaughn: Only what you take with you...
Ashoka: What?
Captain Vaughn: What
theunwantedworld1 then it turns out Vaughn is the only clone to become a force ghost lol
Not gonna lie when I first saw that scene I thought it was some kind of vision Ahsoka had, because she could only hear the clones and despite being only a few seconds behind them, she couldn’t catch up and only found them dead.
*there
Ahsoka starting her siege on Mandalore
Me: "I've been looking forward to this"
When the fleet split the Coruscant fleet most likely took all fighters and we relying on the mandos to provide air support
Well that is just stupid on their part.
Vojta Janda Well... they’re conducting a ground invasion, one where they cannot just blow everything up. On the flip side, the rest of the fleet was going to join a space battle, where the fighters would have even needed, and not ground forces.
They could have left a smaller contingent anyway. And it does not excuse the lack of reconnaissance, even with inside information from the Loyalist Mandos, and their underuse of uncontested orbital superiority
@@rodrigogascagomez5190 Use their space supremacy how? The battle didn't occur on the ground, it was urban warfare. In Star Wars, orbital bombardments are nowhere near as effective as you'd think. Think of it more like World War 1 artillery, where you'd be lucky to land a shell within 200m of the target. As it stands, the Republic ran what was very much a hearts and minds campaign, where the focus was on the PEOPLE, not the planet. Bombing Mandalore would've been terrible for the Republic's ultimate goal
Grievous looked amazing.
Yeah I agree
That was the best thing about the episode by far.
Vojta Janda ????????
The republic was back fighting mandalorians, they just couldn’t help themselves. I think this is one of my favourite episodes so far as well
It is the favorite episode for me.
In my opinion, most of the fighters were sent to coruscant so can't be used effectively on this raid
The missiles were not from an AA system, they were from the rocket launchers on the Mando’s jet packs
Ben K-P ye I though that was incredibly obvious but apparently not.
Finol I realized immediately but 🤷🏻♂️
If it was the AA system it would’ve shot a lot more missiles
Calmgoodfire i would imagine an actual anti air system would utilise guidance in its rockets as well. The Mandalorian rockets seem to only have guidance when the plot suits it, otherwise they just fly around in circles sometimes hitting targets.
@@finol6127 If you;re familiar with mando's yes it obvious but majjority are not.
This episode of clone wars is my favourite. I watched it twice already. The anakin being a cheeky lad was worth the watch alone
Bo-Katan: Mandalore WILL survive... we always have... and always will.
Din Djarin: I can't let you do that.
Gideon: (chuckles) Really? Do you not see the situation your in. Your completely surrounded.
Din Djarin: (Smirks) You should've brought more.
Gideon: (glares) I have an army.
Din Djarin: And I got the darksaber.
(Din ignites the blade and get into a blattle stance. Gideon on the other hand has only one thing to say.)
Gideon: ...... well shit.
This is the way.
"We're an idea, and you can't kill ideas. But we can certainly kill you." - Mandalore the Destroyer
@@piercepayumo4212 Gideon: *Gets shot from a distance*
Boba Fett: You're good to me Dead
*Darth Revan dislikes this*
There was plenty of air superiority I'll say that. LAAT gunships and jet troopers are a better combo then just ground troops.
Man, i wonder what poe would say when he saw that battle, maybe...
they fly now?
@@iwu-xm3xc yup. That's what he would say.
@@iwu-xm3xc Finn: "ASHOKA DID IT! SHE DID IT!"
Especially against mandos
@@iwu-xm3xc They fly.
"I loved episode 9" had a very different meaning a few months ago
Indeed haha
HA HA so true lol
Although I’ve enjoyed all episodes in season 7 this was my favorite one by far.
I guess we kinda get a reason how Appo became the commander of the 501st
I loved that touch. I was always confused as to why Appo was at the Jedi Temple.
cameron burke you mean why he’s the commander? Because I think it’s obvious why he’s at the temple
cameron burke appo might have been with the other half of the 501st that went with anakin to save the chancellor
I guess Rex been away or MIA for around 9 months(or less) then, considering that Order 66 was issued about the same time Padme was due to give birth.
AlexSDU what
I love how every clones calls Ahsoka commander, although at that point she‘s just an advisor and Rex is the commander.Loyalty is very important too them...but first comes the Senate ! XD
The battle might be short, yes, but you have to take into consideration that the enemies are living beings. Not endless wave after wave of droids--who can be replaced in a matter of seconds. The Republic is simply flushing out a group of #Mauldalorian soldiers who are already severely limited in numbers due to their immense losses in the SoD comic & other previous engagements.
Something I appreciated about this episode is that it neatly answered something I've been wondering for a while now: Obviously the only way Maul could escape from Palpatine is if Sheev LET him get away, so how does Maul on the loose play into Palpatine's plans? And the reveal that the whole attack on Mandalore was intended by Maul as a trap for Obi-wan gives a pretty good reason: Letting Maul go is a ploy by Palpatine to get Anakin separated from Obi-wan. If Ahsoka hadn't been in the picture, then Obi-wan could very well have been the one going to Mandalore while Anakin went to Corosant.
I think the comic maul: son of dathomir explains how he escaped palpatine, from what I can remember the mandalorians help him.
This, my thinking is that Sheev wanted things to happen mid assault making it difficult for them to call it off/ abort. Obi wan likely would have been in the fighting etc and committed to taking down maul and anakin wouldve come alone to coruscant. Sheev knows maul is good enough to keep Kenobi occupied long enough for order 66 to be in play and theres no way he escapes deathwatch and the clone forces.
@finaldarkfire -- Maul: Son of Dathomir already answered all of that--it was an unfinished 4-episode story arc that they chose not to finish for this series finale which is weird since it was a huge gap in the show after all. This is why they should've gone and animated that story as well. There's so many people that still haven't read that comic or know all the key events that even took place in that comic.
Captain Vaughn rlly said peace out
Well too be fair to the republic, They had to scramble up a plan since it was such a sudden attack and most of the star fighters were needed for he battle of Coruscant.
That and the fact that Bo even said in the episode, "There's *no time*. My people are dying under Maul's control. Every second we waste is a chance for Maul to easily slip away" -- paraphrasing all of this cuz it's been a while, but she basically said all of that. Timing is everything.
“Commander Rex” 😏
Low key disappointed by the lack of Grievous content.
That one shot we got of him looked so promising, such a missed opportunity.
Micah Quiton yeah my boi never gets the screen time he deserves nor a major victory when it comes to a lightsaber battle
Disney needs to finish crystal crisis
I think we’ll maybe get a small glimpse of the battle of coruscant in the next episode.
God Grevious looks so damn scary! Shame we’re never gonna see this model of him in action!
I just Old friends not forgotten part 1 a few hours ago and I love how they gave information of where Ahsoka was during episode 3
I'd argue that the AT-TE was a good asset to bring, they would work extremely well to keep the docks locked down with their weapons arrays.
Vishnu Gudivada Well,they *do* reach the ground......sometimes too fast or in the wrong place but unless it gets completely atomized or incinerated it should reach some patch of ground(maybe inside a black hole if destroyed in space)
Plus we have seen the AT-TE used as a mobile command center. The problem with RT walkers would be that they were open bike-like walkers that would leave the drivers exposed to jet pack mandos.
IMO this was the best episode yet. I absolutely LOVED this one. That opening sequence with that INCREDIBLE model of Grievous, the short scenes involving the Jedi at their place of death, and that GLORIOUS opening battle on the bridge was probably the most happy I’ve been in over a year. Don’t even get me STARTED on the fact that I literally cried at the reunion scene on the Venator.
Ugh this entire episode was amazing.
Anakin: commits a war crime by pretending to surrender
Obi-Wan: bRaVo, aNakiN
Anakin is very good at committing war crimes lol.
who's gonna arrest him, droid police?
@@qualitigma7440 #DroidLivesMatterToo
@@Vandicoup my clanka
@@pc_115 bro you cant say that
Given the circumstances over Coruscant, I think Anakin took the 501st's fighters with him to that battle, which meant that the Mandalore assault force probably didn't have enough fighters to do a proper screen for the transports.
Rip Captain Vaughn. He got promoted to captain after Rex got promoted and was awesome. He died way to quick.
It genuinely felt like I was watching the Umbara Arc all over again. Constant hype
Life: LAATs get mauled by AAA and SAMs literally since day one.
Republic: "Rather be dead then protect my Air CAV with SEAD"
I'd like to take the time to point out the fact that we never see anyone using surface to air missles. Or half decent AA for that matter. Everything they use are just repurposed from other rolls.
Grievous looking scary in the intro
Definitely
Nice picture 👍👌
Tim Bartsch Thanks
@@odstdisciple9819
No prob 👍👍
Just like his original version in episode 3
@@neofulcrum5013 And in CW 2003 which is actually his first appearance.
This episode was literally the best content I've every seen in my life. Better than the mandalorian, better than the other clone wars episodes, better than even the movies. I absolutely loved the episode to death and have watched it 8 times now (I normally watch stuff once).
same, i really enjoyed the first 5 minutes especially
anyone else absolutely love S7E9 of clone wars?
Favorite episode no doubt. We got a lil shot of grievous and Ashoka without an annoying friend
Noah Cider annoying friend?
Larniie Playz Trace 😠😠
I loved the Bad Batch arc and I’m loving the final arc so far!
I'll just say, this was the best episode 9 we'll ever see
Big Pete Montesano Unless the Umbara Ac started as Episode 9 for a Season.....
@@SIVAmemSIVAmemcode yeah very true
@@SIVAmemSIVAmemcode plan of dissent was episode 9 of season 4, that was pretty damn good too, so I guess that counts lol
Scariff update delayed again boys
AGAIN! Oh lord the pain!
Considering everything that’s happening in the world at the moment it was bound to happen at some point.
They still need time to deploy the garrison
i wish it was a clone wars update tho
You have to remember though... This isn't the full 501st. it's a smaller division. They might not have all their vehicles, especially depending on what type of combat they were outfitted for
This episode was awesome!!! Great banter between Kenobi and Anakin to start the episode. Ashoka is such a skilled warrior making the deathwatch forces look silly during the blitz of mandolore. Commander Rex promotion well earned.
Nothing like Star Wars battles and life to keep you sane. Love the vids man. It’s been one of the few things relieving my boredom, and I’ve learned a bit more than I would’ve just watching the show. Love the work you do, and I look forward to your next vid.
I think the big things are:
The AT-TE has heavy armor, but also seems to have a grappling ability, which could allow it to utilize open spaces vertically.
The immediate attack with all ships allows the Republic to lock down the city quickly, without giving Maul an opportunity to escape. The reduced number of defenders means that in all likelihood, it's a search and destroy that's necessary, not necessarily stiff urban combat on all fronts.
Suggestion for a video to discuss: Why a fleet in the clone wars was usually composed of 3 venator class cruisers every time. (i.e to attack blockades, usual jedi transports, etc.)
Yeah I have always wondered about that
I mean, how many Venators were made and how many fleets were there?
Cuz usually when fighting tons of frigates, the republic usually has a standard of 3 venator cruisers to fight 5-10 frigates so I’m amazed and confused haha
The magic number is just 3, most fleets are just minif frigs, not providences or recus class capital ships.
I think Gar Saxon is the best example of why the Clone Wars’ art style is superior to Rebels
Arc 48 yes. He actually looks like a chad in this series. In rebels he tries to be one, never hits the mark.
And me. Rebels made me look awful
@@legendhimself9810 We don’t talk about Rebels Anakin. He doesn’t exist in our minds
The art in clone wars is better and more detailed while rebels make everyone look so ugly. Look at Bo in rebels. I she looks like a woman in her late 60’s.
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
then forge would still be alive :(
ECLIPSExGAMING RIP Forge. A book should written where Forge Johnson and Buck all fight together. Then at the end of the book all 3 just chill at a bar.
What does this have to do with the Siege of Mandalore ?
Good question
@@thekhans2823 Nothing obviously but it's an askeck question so it doesn't necessarily need to be
They definitely upped the CGI budget for this episode! All in all, I really enjoyed it! Also, did anyone else spot Kanan from Rebels in the opening?
I love that the mando’s are back in proper action
I’ve watched this episode 4 times so good!
During the end of tur series and order 66 is a active it would be cool to see rex tackle one of his men as they try to kill ashoka and ripping off his helmet like he did during umbra
Likely something like this will happen
shes not a jedi though so will 66 apply?
@@mattgolka6266 of course it will they know shes an ally to the republic
@@joebond545 Being assosiated with the republic doesn't mean theyll be killed it sounds like yoyr saying senators or palpy will die to 66 too from your logic
@@mattgolka6266 well everyone knows what goes down on mandalore, ashoka and maul are attacked by the clones so I don't know what logic there is to it but it happens
I think the combination of LAATs and Mandalorian ships flying together was some of the best eye candy from the show
I’m pretty sure the Mandalorian ‘anti-air’ missiles were from the Mandalorian Jetpacks. Also, I don’t think the AT-TE was planned to be used inside the city, but to hunker down outside to stop anyone leaving, because it is technically a Siege operation
I loved how obi wan was really struggling and then anakin just walked into the battle so calm and winning it nearly instantly.
Siege of Mandalore episode 3: 28 minutes of clones shooting Bariss Offee in her prison cell follows by a shot of Dave Filoni "There... No more questions if Barris will show up again"
*Hey, Eck: Upon re-watch, the missiles were not from an AA system, they were from the rocket launchers on the Mando’s jet packs
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Anikan:loyalty means everything to the clones
A couple days later
Palpatine:initiate order 66
Clones:it will be done my lord
I just got done catching up on the Clone Wars S7, so this is the perfect way to recap that latest episode!
This was by far my favorite clone wars episode. There was a lot of cool action.
Edit: I love how that sounds, Commander Rex 3:58
Finally the season gives a good story line
A clone captain with my name appears in The Clone Wars and then dies in the same episode! Oh well, R.I.P. Captain Vaughan!
hey, if it makes you feel better, he was awesome and it seems like everyone loves him~
rest in peace :c he died too soon
After watching this video today. I knew you would have a video on the battle breakdown. Good stuff Eck!
What i imagine for the star destroyers staying in orbit is keeping them out of range if the mandos. Last thing you need is your ship being commandeered by super commandos
"a very hot landing"
Remind me of the second battle of Geonosis
What a mess
Von Kartoffeul “gronosis” I’m sorry but that triggered me so bad.......
@@SIVAmemSIVAmemcode Done !
This battle was no where near as bad as that one since here all they had to deal with were the super commando's which they managed to fight through, Geonosis they had to fight through an airforce and an extensive AA network
I hope we get to see Rex remove his inhibitor chip.
I was just glad to have a good episode. Nice video!
Dog funny my favorite part 8:57
I enjoyed the episode and I do love these break downs of the battle, can not wait to see more
While I agree that the anti-air assets were a threat to the LAATs, remember that the Republic needed to land quickly. From the Republic's perspective, any skirmishes before the landing could alert Maul to their presence and give him time to escape.
All is set perfectly with that episode, in few week we'll have everything (almost) beetwin ep 2 and 3, the integral of Star Wars will be not really but almost perfect.
#askEck what if little Anikin didn’t say “now this is pod racing” In The Phantom Menace?
I love the beginning of siege battles. The orderly chaos
I agree with the point about what the strategy that 501st used during the invasion, but I believe that the best explanation for this is that all these happened in a sudden, which leaves Rex and Ahsoka does not have the best equipments to conquer the city.
Great video and love these battle breakdowns
The fact that the 501st have a different helmet color than their body color gives me OCD
B2_the_ray it’s for ahsoka
@@okryo266 He knows, but it's still odd, like why dont they just paint the blue markings to the orange and have some other blue markings on the arms
The Dome around the city was built specifically to withstand orbital bombardment, it would be pointless to put the cruisers at risk within range of whatever defense the city does have, without a purpose or objective ...
As much as I think the domes could withstand some shelling, I don't think that was their purpose. I'm quite sure the domes are in place to protect against the currently hostile environment of the world. Think of a concept for Martian domed cities. Great to protect against the inhospitable landscape but might not help too much if anyone wants to attack them.
I was expecting the battle to start in the second episode and the first be build up, but pleasantly surprised.
I’m glad this episode came out. It was a great change of pace from the last few. They would have been better if Ahsoka had taken the sisters with her.
Why should she do that? They don't belong in the war, that's not their business and I doubt that Ahsoka would want them to be in it
FuckinAntiPope for continuity. My point is, why introduce characters in the last episodes that have no relevance to the overall arc. I understand Ahsoka was on a journey but that journey could have been handled differently.
And then there was me thinking that Anakin and Obi were on the 3 cruisers, they just dropped Ashoka off at Mandalore and then went to Coruscant
The Invasion reminds me of the Invasion in the beginning of Star Wars Force Commander, tons of landing craft with no fighter support.
Finally an episode 9 that doesn't disappoint
They fired long range SAM missiles......finally, I think that's a first.
Most of the time they engage each other with direct AA or fightercraft.
Hey eck! I hope you and your family are doing okay! stay safe and may the force be with you
I initially agreed with your statement that a force of strike fighters sent in first to suppress or destroy anti-air defenses (a SEAD/DEAD mission) before the gunships carrying troops would have been a smarter plan, but I'm starting to think that the Docks didn't actually have any anti-air defenses. It's possible that the missiles that struck the gunships in the opening volleys of the air battle were not actually surface-to-air missiles but jetpack missiles launched by Mandalorian super-commandos hiding in the clouds, considering they emerge from the cloud layer seconds later. If the only air power or defenses the Mandalorians had were their super-commandos, then perhaps it'd be too difficult to intercept them with actual fighters and Rex's forces would just have to expect to have troopers and ARC troopers fight Mandalorians from gunship to gunship, making liberal use of jetpacks.
An important note on the forces used for the invasion. Every ship and vehicle used from the Mandalorian fighters to the LAATs and AT-TEs double as troop transports. AT-TEs can carry 20 troopers last I checked and the Mandalorian ships can carry at least 8-10 warriors. The AT-TEs would also be useful for securing and holding the LZ with it's 6 anti-personnel turrets and armored exterior. While AT-RTs are more suited to a blitz type of attack, they are exceedingly lightly armored and Mandalorians are infinitely more agile than the walkers. AT-RTs would get outflanked quite easily while taking up more room on the walkways of Sundari than a squad of troopers would. The balance between size, mobility, and firepower is in favor of trooper squads rather than AT-RTs in Sundari.
Additionally, there didn't seem to be enough room at the LZ in Sundari for an AT-RT drop like Umbara. Umbara was more or less an open field with moderate flora present and without an enormous Domed City blocking the flight path of the LAATs.
I don't wanna just guess, but I feel that the missiles that hit the LAAT's came from the jet packs of the Mando's.
Geez this season is so beautiful
Was good to finally see the Siege of Mandalore.
This episode was awesome. I can’t wait for part 2
The only reason I can see why the republic didn’t send fighters into the battle was because I think they stuck with Obi-Wan and Anakin to support the space battle over Coruscant.
When you think about it jango gets his revenge against death watch with his clones ( obviously) snuffing out vizlas legacy and avenging jaster, his family, and the true mandalorians
very true
if you see the beginning when they introduce the outer rim sieges, you can see a lot of providence class dreadnoughts assaulting republic fleets. There is a similar scene in the 2003 clone wars and i thought it was a nice nod to the original 2003 version.
Love how there is way more numbers of ships, clone troopers, etc. The animation budget is a lot better