Bayek is the reason why I still have a very soft spot for Origins despite my dislike for the RPGs. I can’t explain how attached I felt to Bayek and his story. His voice actor really did outperform himself.
It's especially unbelievable that Bayek's voice actor (I can't remember his name) was only like 23-24 when he recorded the lines for Origins. For such a young man he could really nail those more emotional scenes, the ones with Shadya for example.
For me it's gotta be Origins. The character of Bayek is so well written and his story so tragic. I think it's also helped a lot by having mocapped cutscenes.
Mirage is a huge downgrade compared to Origins. Here's very short list of downgrades off the top of my head: 1. You can't use sword while on horseback 2. Walking and running animations are worse 3. Fire and lighting are worse 4. Boat physics is terrible 5. Footprints on sand look like a joke 6. The open world is like 10 times smaller 7. Robe physics is outdated 8. Clothes don't get wet when you enter shallow water 9. The water doesn't get bloody when you throw corpses in it 10. Fights with animals are terrible + you can't hunt 11. Enemy AI is dumb: they don't carry dead bodies, they don't have any schedules (in Origins they patrol, go to sleep, sit by the fire, go to take a piss etc.)
Mirage was perfect for me. I loved origins arid climates and color palettes. I also loved the balance origins struck with combat and stealth and I believe they perfected the assassination progression but felt it was missing the traditional AC touch with how vast the world was and how much was going on all at once, so when Mirage came out I was in love because it took everything I liked about origins and refocused it
From what I've seen Mirage looks better to me. I hated having to upgrade your hidden blade in Origins to assassinate people. Also, the fact Mirage takes place in mostly one city is something I prefer.
I actually kind of liked the idea of upgrading the hidden blade as a one off thing for Bayek. The blade isn't perfected yet, and him upgrading it to how it is in later games before Altair is kind of cool. Of course I believe this should only be a thing in Origins tho, just like how the combat is more important. This should be a outlier and not the norm.
Also upgrading the hidden blade doesn't really make sense especially for that time period. It's just done to make it feel like an rpg. Not a fan of an artificial hidden blade upgrading. Ezio trilogy did upgrading hidden blade better
@@enzoamore8971i think the same thing it kinda makes sense he upgrades his hidden blade but i would’ve preferred if it wasn’t a grind and had less upgrades about 5-10 is the perfect amount
Yes, the need to upgrade the hidden blade severely impacted my enjoyment of the game since the pacing of the story and the moment to moment gameplay took a hit because of it.
Bayek in my honest opinion had the best voice actor in the entire series. That counts a lot on the feel of the game, as you spend time with the character, understanding things changes by the way they express themselves. One of the reasons people love AC4 and still play it a lot nowadays, is the great voice acting for Edward and Adewale. In Mirage, Roshan voice actress is the best. They need to create a DLC for Roshan.
I honestly think Origins is one of the best in the series. I will give the parkour and stealth to Mirage by a LONG shot cause that's what the games designed for lol, but I just think Origins tops it in almost every other way, obviously the story and characters are better because its a far bigger game with more time put into it, but from the voice performances to the motion capture to their individual stories, origins handles characters and their stories much better. Bayek is one of the best main characters from not just AC but from the last couple years of games as a whole. and Basim is cool and has the potential to be amazing (if they gave one of these guys a sequel for once) he imo doesn't really stand a chance with Bayek. the combat while not being everyones favorite has some of the most depth and customization from the series and once you learn can be just as fun as the counter based system from the older games, in my playthrough of the main story I never needed to go out of my way for any of the upgrades because I didn't just blast through the story, and imo I think with games like Origins or Unity or even the older AC games, or games like RDR2 or Ghost of Tsushima, its much better and an overall more fulfilling experience to take your time and explore the world then to just slam your way through the story. I get that its not everyone's prefered playstyle but games as big as Origins or Red Dead and with as fleshed out characters like Bayek if you don't get lost in that world then maybe that game wasn't really for you in the 1st place. and from a game from 2017 it still looks phenomenal and from the characters to the world itself looks better then Mirage imo. I get that Mirage is a much smaller game with much less time then Origins but there is just so much to do in Origins, from the ridiculous amount of side content, to the bases, to the tombs, to the gladiator arena, to the hippodrome, to those giant bosses, to just exploring Egypt and its cities to the huge open deserts and bodies of water. plus in Origins you can fight hippos so 🤷
In my opinion I think origins is better because I think they did the rpg aspect well and after you beat the story there is a lot to do where as mirage doesn’t have much to do besides the artifacts and stuff like that. Thank you for putting out great content and your videos make my day!
Dudes delusional. Origins is far and away better than Mirage. Hell, Black Flag is better than Mirage. Pathetic to say otherwise if we're being real@@JG-jz3wh
@@adaptivegamer9905 I am not new but if you look at most old acs they had actually a pretty decent amount to do after completing the story like unity’s heists and co-op for an example
You say that people who prefer the older games are more likely to prefer mirage, however as someone who has played all the games and prefers the oldest games I have to say origins felt better. While it is less assassins creed, the character and story felt like it had a soul, rather than mirage which feels hollow with the purpose of being an ac game which leads it to be lacking in most other places.
I have yet to play Mirage but I can say that Origins is a really good game, it had that strike of balance between old and new. I really enjoyed my time with it.
Orgins is a masterpiece of a game. Graphics slightly better, cutscenes very good. Open world just right...Very difficult to top it. Combat is also fantastic in Orgins.
Honestly Bayek is in the top 3 of assassins, his character writing and voice acting was top of the shelf. Origins had a really really cool setting too. The map was smaller so the RPG style worked a lot better.
Honestly i think if mirage could have a larger budget and more production time with bigger work team (In the sense that Ubisoft Bordex can get more staff) than it did be top 5
Awesome take on the similarities and differences when comparing Origins and Mirage. I’m a huge history buff and personally enjoy the time periods around Ancient Greece and ancient Egypt. While the larger maps added a lot of “dead space”, the vibrancy the open world gives us provides an opportunity to explore a world far in the past. Mirage is awesome so far, and it’s very refreshing to get away from the hack and slash of Valhalla. I’m having alot of fun in a dense city, working as an assassin and street thief. In terms of character comparisons, I think most of would lean to Bayek. They create a deep story telling of his character from the start while putting together all the pieces that have inevitably lead him to creating the hidden ones. He’s a character I truly rooted for from start to finish.
From an Egyptian Egyptology nerd and old AC fan, I LOVED both, but I think Story = Origins(including everything, side content, and DLC) is more fleshed out and complex while Mirage is more direct and simple in formula, which is refreshing after Odyssey and valhalla. I beleive both actually compliment the game, Origins was the shift people were waiting for and it delivered, Mirage also serves a similar purpose making its simplicity(by simple I am referring the lineraity of the story and how it incorporated everything an old ac fan wants in an AC story, like the Assassin vs Templar conflict, the Isu element the amazing assassination missions, the Assassin brotherhood, stealth, parkour etc) side note I love that both have a good replayability factor. Combat = Origins wins in combat for its sheer variety of wepons and animations, Origins has a well rounded combat. My hot take is that Mirage's combat isn't ugly or bad it is just a stripped down version of valhalla's with style speed and cool finishers if you get the combos right. Stealth = Mirage wins, even though Origins had a good and functional ai, and outposts etc Mirage perfected the stealth system Origins was aiming for and brought back fan favorite tools. Parkour = Mirage wins fs, the reliability of ejects was important for me and Origins lacked that but Mirage didn't, plus even though I loved Origins and the setting, most of the nile valley reminded me of modern Egyptian rural villages, which do not have many parkour elements for an Assassin to parkour on😂(not historically innacurate btw most Egyptians were farmers and lived in small villages up until the industrial revolution, but the setting was just not well suited for parkour compared to the dense baghdad- granted Alexanderia Memphis Cyrene and Thebes had a good amount of density but nothing compared to Mirage). Protagonists = I loved Bayek, and I think he has the potential to surpass Ezio if he gets 1 ir 2 sequels, he's like the Egyptian Kratos to me😂(Similar backstory, similar character progression, plus Assassin elements, plus a well written and acted character, Bayek was great to me as an Egyptian, an Assassin's creed fan and a God of War fan)but Basim's archetypal hero personality was not bland or a negative to me, I think it actually improved the story's flow, as it showed us his character development in 5 stages, street theif to apprentice to initiate to master to half Loki serving the tragic and serious tone of the game. Overall, even though I am not the kind that finds common ground and takes both sides, I am conflicted on which is better because they both served their purpose perfectly
It is Origins for me. Ancient Egypt is still my favorite setting, and the roleplay and immersion you could have as an assassin is still strong in the game. I play Bayek as a Medjay warrior who may not be proficient with stealth but must learn to master it to hunt those responsible for the death of his son and protect his people. So I felt that the story and inability to one-shot assassinate enemies in the beginning made sense, and phylakes and some commanders were experienced warriors who can give Bayek a challenge.
got 100% on both but origin has a special place in my heart. i got 3x more time in origins so i feel more attached. narrative was way better imo and building up ur skills that acc show a diff maked me happy. mirage very good tho
Same here buddy been playing it tonight on Xbox and I’m still blown away with the graphics of Baghdad enjoying it so fare origins was good too I played straight as it first released but I find mirage better that Ac 1 feeling both good games
My biggest gripe with Origins is the continuity of the Assassins being tossed aside just so they could make well known historical figures be the antagonists of the game. It was stated in the 4th game that the Assassins existed for "thousands of years" in the year 1512 AD. Ubisoft decided to scrap that for less than 1600 years prior. They could have gone back another 2,000 years and still had an Egyptian setting, but in the end it was more important to splash in a big name than stay accurate to the lore, which they then butchered further by making Odyssey predate the "origin" game that was immediately before it. Origins has better characters and a better plot, but the lack of care for lore in favor of recognition, teeth pulling level system and upgrades, as well as the super fantastical elements that have no base in the game universe lore just destroy it's reputation in my eyes, and I would much rather play Mirage, even with the glaring flaws that it has, because of that true Assassin's Creed experience that has seldomly been seen since the Desmond Miles era.
I just started playing Origins and I am loving it! It definitely took influence from Dark Souls with the combat, but still has the feel of a stealth/assassin game. Egypt looks amazing, too!
I prefer the classic style and design of old Assassin's Creed games, so I of course enjoyed Mirage. Even then, I still think Origins is the better game. Mirage has better stealth and parkour, but the lack of good story and characters really hurt the experience and pacing overall. I felt completely disconnected from what was happening with the characters and the story, and that hurt the pacing and engagement for me. I also prefer the side quests and progression system of Origins, which can be pretty addicting.
Maybe I'm tripping but I feel like Origins has cities like Alexandria, Thebes and the area around the Hippodrome especially for some reason, which are just as populated as Baghdad and have a lot of dense urban environments as well.
in ac mirage i played on hard and the hard modes combat didnt feel that challenging until the bounty hunters showed up and i was using the default loadout for most of the story edit: poisoned throwing knives and smoke bombs are very useful for takeing out the bounty hunters
Im starting to realize that what im missing more than anything is the different cities that all look different. Ac1 had a few cities that you could travel to and none of them look the same,and then AC2 had florence and venice and the villa etc. If we had a game like mirage that had the different cities and building the brotherhood up etc like the best games in the series. The lack of different cities is honestly the only thing i didnt like about ac unity 😅. Like we need to travel and explore like we used to be able to
Man, it still hurts so much knowing how the cutscenes in Mirage would be so much better with motion capture, as you said. Oh well, what's done is done.
One thing i liked about the tools in Mirage is that not only are the tools useful when you have not been noticed by an enemy/enemy's but also while in combat. Sometimes i could not get the counter roll to work on the bigger guys so i would just throw down a smoke bomb and kill him. The stealth is so goooooooooooo!
If these games were combined it would literally be my dream AC game.. the world and story of Origins with the stealth of Mirage would be crazy and the parkour from Unity would be a big plus
Ngl I couldn’t get into Mirage even though I really wanted to. I stopped after the first black box mission. I think the game would be much better if it was built upon origins framework rather than Valhalla. But I’m glad ppl like it so we might see more og styled games.
Did you see the new gameplay showcase of AC Nexus? It looks good! Also yeah I prefer Mirage as well even though I love Origins I just can’t go back to upgrading my hidden blade and xp based progression.
SPOILER!!!!! This might be off topic but when Loki merged with basim it’s not like basim is gone it’s more like you put a strawberry and a banana in a blender. I was confused about the ending hopefully this helps people who also didn’t understand.
Still need to try Mirage. From what you explained, I think I will like it. I also agree that Origins has a gorgeous world and an amazing story. Combat wise, since it's more difficult and it seems more grounded than Origins, I think it's better in Mirage.
I think a perfectly sized world is Rogue's, you have the North Atlantic to explore on boat, you have River Valley to explore the wilderness on foot, and you have New York as a city to explore I'm fairly certain that the North Atlantic is much smaller than The Caribbean in AC4, but as a whole Rogue has a "bigger" map, as in more playable area, not necessarily just one big map though
Can you please do a retrospective on Tomb Raider 2013? It's 10 years old and In my opinion it still holds up. Also I'm hoping that Ubisoft Bordeaux will improve and expand on the foundation they laid out either in a sequel or a different game set in a different time period.
Let’s not forget that Mirage is also a much shorter game. I enjoy origins but it’s pretty long. After experiencing how crazy long Valhalla was, I really appreciated reaching the ending of Mirage.
While I still love Origins, I definitely prefer Mirage. Going through the bloated world of Origins like a checklist will always be a slog to me. Mirage's smaller, more focused map feels very encouraging for multiple playthroughs. Not to mention the larger tool kit is precisely what I felt Origins stealth was missing.
ONe thing I miss from origins/Odyssey was that they put in Overpower attacks that gave you a super cool attack and then took it out from Valhalla/Mirage.
I am an old school AC fan, after playing Mirage I re-visited Origins again, my-oh-my Origins in 2023 feels like a game came yesterday and Origins is soooo much soo much better than Mirage, atleast for me it felt like that. I could feel the love and passion the ubisoft poured on origins while playing it, the combat the stealth and most importantly the jaw-dropping story was so amazing. For the first time in my gaming years playing a game for the third time felt like playing a whole new game.! Origins is simply astonishing.
Both of them are equally good in there own way origins gave me the grind and Egypt was amazing mirage on the other hand gave me the stealth and feel of an assassin because it took place in a city setting again wasn’t as populated like unity was but i had such a good time
The combat in Mirage was such a mood killer, I’d be having fun all the way until I had to fight someone. Great game, but it could’ve been THE best comeback for AC with a better combat design.
Although it is unlikely, I still hope and believe that Mirage's motions could change. If I'm not mistaken there are a few games where whole scenes are changed for better experience, and I think if Mirage's developers' dedication and if the sales are high, they could pull off applying motion capture in scenes that are really in need of it.
I love both, it's hard to choose as both games go for different things. Maybe I prefer Origins a bit more because of story and Bayek (as I like him more than Basim) but Mirage is also amazing.
Mercenaries are just too easy to kill in Mirage, but the game play and story is the thing here. Story I'd say goes to Origins, holy crap its good, and Bayek's back story? Amazing. Game play goes to Mirage, it just feels like home again (By that I mean like the older games), the parkour is incredible and is even more useful for dense areas like cities, which is why Mirage is fourth place in parkour for me, the other three being the Ezio Collection. I like Mirage more than Origins.
u should compare mirage and ac1. i recently beat the first game for the first time after completing mirage. they are both very good and suprisingly similar in my opinion. ac1 is obviously held back by things like graphics and animations and even the lack of story but through all that i felt like the first game held up extremely well and encapsulates the feeling and simplicity of being an assassin much better. i personally found altair wayy cooler and i liked the dullness and darkness of the world(even though its always day:/). parkour was super similar to me as well but being able to eject and stuff made 1's feel better. combat was better, i liked having kill animations for the sword, dagger, and hidden blade, and them all being different in skill to pull off a counter kill.
I have similar thoughts as you, Origin has great art and a large area to explore, and Mirage has a lot beautiful scenes in the rich city Bagdad. Also, I like the stealth system better in Mirage than Origin, spending my time and create strategy for it is fun! One thing I like to point out, I really like the Discovery tour in Egypt and Greek worlds, but they cancel it in Mirage, I feel bad that I cant walk around the city, watch scenes of people's daily life, and listen the tour guide in the background. I knew there are history documents I can read, but it doesn't feel the same! I guess it probably caused by the low budget, and I hope they will make Discovery tour for Bagdad as DL in the future. They put so many beautiful details in Bagdad, it will be a waste to not create a tour with them.
I think Origins is the better story but Mirage is the better game. The fact that you don’t have to grind to progress thru the story or upgrade the hidden blade makes the gameplay so much more enjoyable. I love the first two rpg games but the leveling systems were horrible in Origins (idk why but Odyssey didn’t have the same leveling issue for me).
Now that I finished watching the video, I agree with most of what you said. I will point out, however, that I believe Origins does have better AI than Mirage. For instance, in Origins, if enemies find another soldier dead, not only they will be alerted, but eventually one of them will actually pickup the corpse and drop it somewhere else, changing their routine. Also, their night routine is different than their day routine, which may be beneficial for infiltrating at night and can also change the enemies patrolling route while you are infiltrating, as some of them may actually go to sleep. Despite that, I agree that the stealth is better in Mirage. As for story, I disagree with your opinion on Mirage's story and characters. I honestly believe Mirage has the worse story and characters in the entire franchise. Basim is the blandest main character in Assassin's Creed, and his dynamics with Nehal don't make any sense, even in light of the ending. The story is almost uninteligible, with characters throwing a bunch of hard to read names around and completely bland and uninteresting plot points. Eventually, I tuned out for most of the story. I felt no connection with any of the characters or villains, and I was just assassinating for the gamepla, like I mentioned in my previous comment. The characters and story of Origins are leagues better than Mirage, in my opinion, and rank amongst the best in the entire series. Anyway, great video!
This is pretty hard, but I honestly got to go with mirage. Baghdad is so nice, I love the outfits and Easter eggs, and everything. My favorite thing to do is use the Altair outfit and turn on the AC1 color filter. Only complaint is I wish there was more content.
I think the fact that people are arguing which game is better is a good thing. It keep discourse going and gives the fanbase differing opinions and perspectives. It helps make it less of an echo chamber, and I think that’s a good thing overall.
they should keep the bird. not really for stealth stuff.if it can attack like in odyssey well thats goo too but i mean sometimes watching these entire cities from up high man makes my jaw drop many many many times. they should keep it i mean you can play without using it but for exploration of the city landscape etc its soooo damn good. i mean sometimes i play other games that have beautiful worlds to and i forget im not playing AC and i try to get the bird up to see the landscape. they should keep it
For me, it’s Origins and it’s not a competition. The gameplay is very fun in both games tho. My biggest complaint with Origins is that the map doesn’t really allow for good parkour. Though I do think it more than makes up for that with literally everything else in the game, such as the beautiful map, the amazing story, the (sometimes too) diverse range of weapons, the kill animations, the cutscenes, the side missions, the writing, the voice acting, etc. I don’t even mind the more RPG-like elements of Origins ‘cause unless you’re one of those people that only play the main story, you’ll never really have a level issue and stealth is still very much a viable way to play (it’s how I played 99% of the game). Unfortunately Mirage doesn’t do quite as much anywhere near as well. It brings back parkour, though it’s based on Valhalla’s parkour system, so although the map is rooftop heaven, it feels pretty sluggish. The combat is very much back to basics and it’s pretty fun, though I find my parries don’t always work. The stealth is definitely an improvement on any of the last 3 games, I quite like the tools and their upgrade options as well. Now that I’m done with what it does well… onto the rest. Although I am glad to get something more focused on the actual brotherhood of Assassins (Hidden Ones), the story is not very compelling, nor is it very well written, which is only made worse by the terrible voice acting, with a few exceptions, it’s pretty awful across the board. Even the good VAs sound bad in the game thanks to the writing. 90% of the cutscenes are still over the shoulder dialogue. What side missions there are are very boring and don’t seem to serve much of a purpose. And finally, the map is pretty boring, there’s no noticeable variation between the different parts of Baghdad and there’s not a whole lot going on outside of the city either. I’ve also noticed the NPCs are a bit odd, a lot of the time they’ll just be standing in the middle of the bridges or streets just doing absolutely nothing, staring off into space.
Origins assassination skills are underrated imo, it takes time to unlock and learn them but the skill ceiling is higher than it seems but it's very rewarding when you use them together.
Origins is stunning the fact Ubisoft made that game and delivered an amazing story with a massive world which yes can get repetitive but playing it for your first time you’d most likely love it. The protagonist bayek is for me the most unique with his show of emotions and dedication to for fill his revenge story and it shows throughout the game and especially the start with the knife in the mask scene. Personally after not even playing mirage yet, I’ve seen so much gameplay and I definitely agree with animations and the speed for parkour but then again this game is new and of origins had a massive update with changes like that it would be the best AC game but it’s understandable why their focus was the rpg at the time. As this is in my top 3 favourite AC games with black flag and AC Unity up there, all have different reasons on being up there I think AC Unity would of been the best AC game if it came out in this date but the rpg games it’s definitely AC origins for now but let’s see what Code Red brings cause I’m very excited for it as long as it’s not like Valhalla.
just wanna say im new to the franchise. originally came to assassins creed creeping from shadow of war looking to get my toes wet with other similar games. while the combat in this franchise will never be as cinematic or noob friendly as in shadow of war (which i shouldnt expect completely different franchises) i want to thank you personally. you have definitely helped someone like me who has fresh eyes on the franchise make up my mind and so for that reason im going to stick with a top 5 i plan on sinking into. my top 5 will be 1. origins. 2. black flag. 3. syndicate 4. odyssey. 5. brotherhood. thats my take away from all of your videos thank you alot for the comparison videos you being an connoisseur on the franchise has definitely made things easier.
I love both but mirage is the better game in my opinion. Although origins has a better protagonist and a better story, gameplay and mission-design is so much better in mirage. The stealth is great in mirage, might even be my favorite stealth system of the series. The blackbox assassinations were a lot of fun. And of course the open world. Baghdad is probably my favorite city in AC. Or rome, I can’t decide.
As an OG AC fan, if Origins allowed us to instant assassinate main targets, side objective targets and high level enemy commanders after getting the hidden blade(without the need to upgrade sh*t) and it had Mirage's combat and stealth options, it would have been a masterpiece, the crown jewel of the AC RPG trilogy and maybe Odyssey and Valhalla would have been widely accepted if they had the same gameplay features.
Origins is still one of the highest on my list, but after replaying Syndicate and Unity this year.. Mirage just doesn't quite cut it for me - Baghdad looks drop dead gorgeous tho
They are pretty different games, ones an RPG and the second one is a classic AC, so a comparison between this two is difficult. They are different experiences but personally I liked Mirage more
22:33 Agree. Aya was a great sub-protagonist. In the story, Bayek is a character who is relatively lacking in political aspects, not only because he has a relative lack of connection to politicians, but also because he does not trust politicians. (Like Connor Kenway in AC3 or Jin Sakai in GoT, Bayek is a kind of people's fighter. It would have been strange if Bayek, who had no connection with Rome, had assassinated Caesar.) The character that compensates for these shortcomings is Aya. Of course, Bayek also had his own creed and sense of purpose, and was a character who was much more involved with the people than Aya, and he awakened Aya from her blind loyalty to Cleopatra. As married couple characters and main/sub protagonists, Bayek and Aya are characters who complement each other's shortcomings. I really want to see a sequel to Bayek/Aya.
Basim’s Creeds contracts are the best feature in the game. Doing hits on people makes you an assassin. RPG games side quests are better for exploration
I like both but I prefer Origins. While I appreciate Mirage for going back to its stealth roots which gave me lots of nostalgia, I didn't find myself invested much in the story or side missions in Mirage but instead I was just rushing through the game while occasionally enjoying the nice views. Origins gameplay may not be stealth focused but like you correctly said in this video we are given the choice on which gameplay style you want to apply which gave Origins more depth in my opinion. All and all if its mainly nostalgic and traditional AC stealth gameplay you value then Mirage is better but if its story, exploration and characters with less stealth options than Mirage and past AC games then Origin clears. 💯
Currently replaying origins after playing mirage. Mirage felt like a refresh of the older way assassins creed and tbh I appreciated that from ubisoft cause I understand that they need to cater to their newer audience more than the OG players. But, Origins is by far the better game.
It's really not a fair comparison. But if the vision of Mirage was given the same level of scale and care Origins got then Mirage would be better in my opinion
I would like a video where you discuss the skill of Basim against the other assassin's, like is Basim better than Jacob Frye or maybe even better than Arno.
That’s a very interesting concept I actually think about a lot. I feel like I’m terms of strength and without the bs gods, Bayek might be stronger then Connor, but skill wise, I couldn’t see him surviving an assassin from Blacl flag and earlier as all of them are easily more skilled fighters who utilize stealth in a far more advanced sophisticated way. But he is more skilled then the Frye twins and Arno, and without powers, he beats eivor and the misthios
I agree with the 3 points World: Each has its own merits, but as an Assassin's Creed game, Baghdad world is better designed Stealth: Mirage really made me play like how I used to play. Just as I did in Unity and Syndicate. The tools yoi have encourage you to use them. Combat: Mirage can be better, as an Assassin's Creed game. Just take note of Sekiro. The fights are fluid, and responsive. My main gripe is when enemy blocks your attack, they stop for a second, when they should be using that time to strike back, and you having to counter again. The break in the flow kills it. Story: Gonna give it to Origins. It's always a different feel when your character has their own motivation for the story. Also the voice acting. It really feels weird in Mirage. Like it's good but you know they're not giving it their all. Maybe because they don't record it together with the other actors. They just have to imagine the responses. 16 hours for Mirage main story is passable. Short but straight to the point. But I think I lean more to the 25 hours. Anyway this game is cheaper.
Origins is one of the best game of all time! Whenever I hear Bayek's voice I get goosebumps, that shows how phenomenal of a character he is. Origins will always be my favorite AC, as I haven't played Mirage yet waiting for it to come on Steam.❤️🔥
Bayek is the reason why I still have a very soft spot for Origins despite my dislike for the RPGs. I can’t explain how attached I felt to Bayek and his story. His voice actor really did outperform himself.
My thoughts exactly!
Bayek's the GOAT!
And the way Egypt was designed in Origin... You didn't see that in oddysee and Valhalla.
It's especially unbelievable that Bayek's voice actor (I can't remember his name) was only like 23-24 when he recorded the lines for Origins. For such a young man he could really nail those more emotional scenes, the ones with Shadya for example.
Bayek’s Creed is the star of the rpg games
The way he screamed Shadya's name while striking down the Order member responsible was a legendary moment for me. His va needs to be goated
Agreed! Bayek made that transition to their RPG style a little easier in my opinion. I had the same feeling with Kassandra in Odyssey.
For me it's gotta be Origins. The character of Bayek is so well written and his story so tragic. I think it's also helped a lot by having mocapped cutscenes.
ORIGINS IS KING❤
Mirage fixes the issues I had with Origins but at the same time water downs or completely ruins things i liked about origins.
What’s the issues you had in Origins?
@@Jimmm11deez nuts
@@Jimmm11Parkour, Stealth, black box assassination mission, big cool City to explore, and the hiden blade who instant kill (i still love Origins btw)
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@@caseybarrett8352 daaamn that's funny blud 😁
Mirage is a huge downgrade compared to Origins. Here's very short list of downgrades off the top of my head:
1. You can't use sword while on horseback
2. Walking and running animations are worse
3. Fire and lighting are worse
4. Boat physics is terrible
5. Footprints on sand look like a joke
6. The open world is like 10 times smaller
7. Robe physics is outdated
8. Clothes don't get wet when you enter shallow water
9. The water doesn't get bloody when you throw corpses in it
10. Fights with animals are terrible + you can't hunt
11. Enemy AI is dumb: they don't carry dead bodies, they don't have any schedules (in Origins they patrol, go to sleep, sit by the fire, go to take a piss etc.)
Origins was harder.
Mirage was perfect for me. I loved origins arid climates and color palettes. I also loved the balance origins struck with combat and stealth and I believe they perfected the assassination progression but felt it was missing the traditional AC touch with how vast the world was and how much was going on all at once, so when Mirage came out I was in love because it took everything I liked about origins and refocused it
Wrong 😂
@@acest2098wdym wrong 💀
From what I've seen Mirage looks better to me. I hated having to upgrade your hidden blade in Origins to assassinate people. Also, the fact Mirage takes place in mostly one city is something I prefer.
I actually kind of liked the idea of upgrading the hidden blade as a one off thing for Bayek. The blade isn't perfected yet, and him upgrading it to how it is in later games before Altair is kind of cool.
Of course I believe this should only be a thing in Origins tho, just like how the combat is more important. This should be a outlier and not the norm.
Also upgrading the hidden blade doesn't really make sense especially for that time period. It's just done to make it feel like an rpg. Not a fan of an artificial hidden blade upgrading. Ezio trilogy did upgrading hidden blade better
Origins is far far better.
@@enzoamore8971i think the same thing it kinda makes sense he upgrades his hidden blade but i would’ve preferred if it wasn’t a grind and had less upgrades about 5-10 is the perfect amount
Yes, the need to upgrade the hidden blade severely impacted my enjoyment of the game since the pacing of the story and the moment to moment gameplay took a hit because of it.
Bayek in my honest opinion had the best voice actor in the entire series. That counts a lot on the feel of the game, as you spend time with the character, understanding things changes by the way they express themselves. One of the reasons people love AC4 and still play it a lot nowadays, is the great voice acting for Edward and Adewale. In Mirage, Roshan voice actress is the best. They need to create a DLC for Roshan.
Roger Clark: What am I chopped liver?
@@oukeithroger clark never voiced anyone in assassins creed dumbass
Alexios had the best voice actor in the series lol
Bayek followed by AC1 Altair. Dialogue was next level in Altair’s Creed. Don’t understand the quick steep decline with AC2
@@RAY_II everything about alexios’s performance was terrible. accent sounded incredibly fake and the voice was emotionless
I honestly think Origins is one of the best in the series. I will give the parkour and stealth to Mirage by a LONG shot cause that's what the games designed for lol, but I just think Origins tops it in almost every other way, obviously the story and characters are better because its a far bigger game with more time put into it, but from the voice performances to the motion capture to their individual stories, origins handles characters and their stories much better. Bayek is one of the best main characters from not just AC but from the last couple years of games as a whole. and Basim is cool and has the potential to be amazing (if they gave one of these guys a sequel for once) he imo doesn't really stand a chance with Bayek. the combat while not being everyones favorite has some of the most depth and customization from the series and once you learn can be just as fun as the counter based system from the older games, in my playthrough of the main story I never needed to go out of my way for any of the upgrades because I didn't just blast through the story, and imo I think with games like Origins or Unity or even the older AC games, or games like RDR2 or Ghost of Tsushima, its much better and an overall more fulfilling experience to take your time and explore the world then to just slam your way through the story. I get that its not everyone's prefered playstyle but games as big as Origins or Red Dead and with as fleshed out characters like Bayek if you don't get lost in that world then maybe that game wasn't really for you in the 1st place. and from a game from 2017 it still looks phenomenal and from the characters to the world itself looks better then Mirage imo. I get that Mirage is a much smaller game with much less time then Origins but there is just so much to do in Origins, from the ridiculous amount of side content, to the bases, to the tombs, to the gladiator arena, to the hippodrome, to those giant bosses, to just exploring Egypt and its cities to the huge open deserts and bodies of water. plus in Origins you can fight hippos so 🤷
origins is my fav ac but i put mirage right behind it (yes i think the ezio trilogy and unity are overrated).
@@shimik11 did you play any of the Ezio trilogy when it came out? the hype matched the result.
@@shimik11so true
@@P..770nah, the parkour is grossly overrated, and the story. Definitely overrated but I do like the Trilogy
@@P..770Objectively, they are the best. Never Unity.
In my opinion I think origins is better because I think they did the rpg aspect well and after you beat the story there is a lot to do where as mirage doesn’t have much to do besides the artifacts and stuff like that. Thank you for putting out great content and your videos make my day!
And the exploration experience in Origins is just way better
Dudes delusional. Origins is far and away better than Mirage. Hell, Black Flag is better than Mirage. Pathetic to say otherwise if we're being real@@JG-jz3wh
Idk if you’re a new fan but that’s how all the AC games were before the ROG era of AC
@@adaptivegamer9905 I am not new but if you look at most old acs they had actually a pretty decent amount to do after completing the story like unity’s heists and co-op for an example
To be fair Mirage was purposefully doing its best not to be an RPG
You say that people who prefer the older games are more likely to prefer mirage, however as someone who has played all the games and prefers the oldest games I have to say origins felt better. While it is less assassins creed, the character and story felt like it had a soul, rather than mirage which feels hollow with the purpose of being an ac game which leads it to be lacking in most other places.
Origins and it’s not even close, I mean origins is a complete game while mirage is a dlc forced into a full game
I have yet to play Mirage but I can say that Origins is a really good game, it had that strike of balance between old and new. I really enjoyed my time with it.
Orgins is a masterpiece of a game. Graphics slightly better, cutscenes very good. Open world just right...Very difficult to top it. Combat is also fantastic in Orgins.
Honestly Bayek is in the top 3 of assassins, his character writing and voice acting was top of the shelf. Origins had a really really cool setting too. The map was smaller so the RPG style worked a lot better.
Honestly i think if mirage could have a larger budget and more production time with bigger work team (In the sense that Ubisoft Bordex can get more staff) than it did be top 5
yup, imagine mirage with origins' budget
Both are in my top 5 AC games because they feel like natural evolutions of the series, but I do prefer how Mirage handled that over Origins.
Mirage reminds me of a mix between Revelations & Origins
nah valhalla and orgins
@@TheRipaw4 no. revelations and origins
@@akaakaakaak5779 how revelations it uses more assets from valhalla
AC 2, Black flag and Origins are my top 3. All these 3 are GOATed Games.
I remember you, you were the arthur Morgan I kept seeing a few years ago😂
@@Based1889 really that's so funny to hear.
Damn this video made me realise how much improved the gameplay of mirage is over the rpg entries
Origins was always my favorite, from the last 3 games
me to i love the story of bayek and his child it's so sad for him
Because origins is a better game than Odyssey and Valhalla
@@evanpaluch6190 better that Cringhalla 10 times
Awesome take on the similarities and differences when comparing Origins and Mirage.
I’m a huge history buff and personally enjoy the time periods around Ancient Greece and ancient Egypt. While the larger maps added a lot of “dead space”, the vibrancy the open world gives us provides an opportunity to explore a world far in the past.
Mirage is awesome so far, and it’s very refreshing to get away from the hack and slash of Valhalla. I’m having alot of fun in a dense city, working as an assassin and street thief.
In terms of character comparisons, I think most of would lean to Bayek.
They create a deep story telling of his character from the start while putting together all the pieces that have inevitably lead him to creating the hidden ones.
He’s a character I truly rooted for from start to finish.
Mirage is good but origins is masterpiece.
I had a lot of fun with origins, but mirage hits that assassins creed itch
Origin is sh!ttt
Origins is the far far better story with good gameplay but is not a masterpiece to me and I prefer Mirage ultimately
@@TheBatman402don't worry. Just because rpg is not your style doesn't mean it's shit. I respect your opinion though.
@@grapes9h5 Agreed
From an Egyptian Egyptology nerd and old AC fan, I LOVED both, but I think
Story = Origins(including everything, side content, and DLC) is more fleshed out and complex while Mirage is more direct and simple in formula, which is refreshing after Odyssey and valhalla. I beleive both actually compliment the game, Origins was the shift people were waiting for and it delivered, Mirage also serves a similar purpose making its simplicity(by simple I am referring the lineraity of the story and how it incorporated everything an old ac fan wants in an AC story, like the Assassin vs Templar conflict, the Isu element the amazing assassination missions, the Assassin brotherhood, stealth, parkour etc) side note I love that both have a good replayability factor.
Combat = Origins wins in combat for its sheer variety of wepons and animations, Origins has a well rounded combat. My hot take is that Mirage's combat isn't ugly or bad it is just a stripped down version of valhalla's with style speed and cool finishers if you get the combos right.
Stealth = Mirage wins, even though Origins had a good and functional ai, and outposts etc Mirage perfected the stealth system Origins was aiming for and brought back fan favorite tools.
Parkour = Mirage wins fs, the reliability of ejects was important for me and Origins lacked that but Mirage didn't, plus even though I loved Origins and the setting, most of the nile valley reminded me of modern Egyptian rural villages, which do not have many parkour elements for an Assassin to parkour on😂(not historically innacurate btw most Egyptians were farmers and lived in small villages up until the industrial revolution, but the setting was just not well suited for parkour compared to the dense baghdad- granted Alexanderia Memphis Cyrene and Thebes had a good amount of density but nothing compared to Mirage).
Protagonists = I loved Bayek, and I think he has the potential to surpass Ezio if he gets 1 ir 2 sequels, he's like the Egyptian Kratos to me😂(Similar backstory, similar character progression, plus Assassin elements, plus a well written and acted character, Bayek was great to me as an Egyptian, an Assassin's creed fan and a God of War fan)but Basim's archetypal hero personality was not bland or a negative to me, I think it actually improved the story's flow, as it showed us his character development in 5 stages, street theif to apprentice to initiate to master to half Loki serving the tragic and serious tone of the game.
Overall, even though I am not the kind that finds common ground and takes both sides, I am conflicted on which is better because they both served their purpose perfectly
It is Origins for me. Ancient Egypt is still my favorite setting, and the roleplay and immersion you could have as an assassin is still strong in the game. I play Bayek as a Medjay warrior who may not be proficient with stealth but must learn to master it to hunt those responsible for the death of his son and protect his people. So I felt that the story and inability to one-shot assassinate enemies in the beginning made sense, and phylakes and some commanders were experienced warriors who can give Bayek a challenge.
I love both games to be honest but I’m more interested in the timeline and lore
Yeah AC works best with Mid East settings. You get something else when the timeline overshadows the assassins
Agreed
got 100% on both but origin has a special place in my heart. i got 3x more time in origins so i feel more attached. narrative was way better imo and building up ur skills that acc show a diff maked me happy. mirage very good tho
I only played 5 hours of mirage. And went back and started a new game in origins. And having a blast. I don't know I couldn't get into mirage.
Same. I think it’s the cutscenes that put me off. And ig the gameplay isn’t as fun as I thought it’d be.
Mirage is currently my favourite ac game of all time due to gameplay and setting also the history and culture
Same here buddy been playing it tonight on Xbox and I’m still blown away with the graphics of Baghdad enjoying it so fare origins was good too I played straight as it first released but I find mirage better that Ac 1 feeling both good games
My biggest gripe with Origins is the continuity of the Assassins being tossed aside just so they could make well known historical figures be the antagonists of the game. It was stated in the 4th game that the Assassins existed for "thousands of years" in the year 1512 AD. Ubisoft decided to scrap that for less than 1600 years prior. They could have gone back another 2,000 years and still had an Egyptian setting, but in the end it was more important to splash in a big name than stay accurate to the lore, which they then butchered further by making Odyssey predate the "origin" game that was immediately before it.
Origins has better characters and a better plot, but the lack of care for lore in favor of recognition, teeth pulling level system and upgrades, as well as the super fantastical elements that have no base in the game universe lore just destroy it's reputation in my eyes, and I would much rather play Mirage, even with the glaring flaws that it has, because of that true Assassin's Creed experience that has seldomly been seen since the Desmond Miles era.
"imma keep it spoiler free" also "Bayek's son dies" 😂
I just started playing Origins and I am loving it! It definitely took influence from Dark Souls with the combat, but still has the feel of a stealth/assassin game. Egypt looks amazing, too!
*_"It definitely took influence from Dark Souls with the combat"_*
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@@Jake-mn1qcshut up jake
I prefer the classic style and design of old Assassin's Creed games, so I of course enjoyed Mirage. Even then, I still think Origins is the better game. Mirage has better stealth and parkour, but the lack of good story and characters really hurt the experience and pacing overall. I felt completely disconnected from what was happening with the characters and the story, and that hurt the pacing and engagement for me. I also prefer the side quests and progression system of Origins, which can be pretty addicting.
And Syndicate was a " semi rpg ", it did have rpg elements sort of ,but it wasn't an rpg or either close to an rpg even with its " leveling system "
Maybe I'm tripping but I feel like Origins has cities like Alexandria, Thebes and the area around the Hippodrome especially for some reason, which are just as populated as Baghdad and have a lot of dense urban environments as well.
in ac mirage i played on hard and the hard modes combat didnt feel that challenging until the bounty hunters showed up and i was using the default loadout for most of the story
edit: poisoned throwing knives and smoke bombs are very useful for takeing out the bounty hunters
Im starting to realize that what im missing more than anything is the different cities that all look different. Ac1 had a few cities that you could travel to and none of them look the same,and then AC2 had florence and venice and the villa etc. If we had a game like mirage that had the different cities and building the brotherhood up etc like the best games in the series. The lack of different cities is honestly the only thing i didnt like about ac unity 😅. Like we need to travel and explore like we used to be able to
Man, it still hurts so much knowing how the cutscenes in Mirage would be so much better with motion capture, as you said. Oh well, what's done is done.
Dang man, I remember back in the day when you only had 100k. Keep up the stellar work 👍👍
One thing i liked about the tools in Mirage is that not only are the tools useful when you have not been noticed by an enemy/enemy's but also while in combat. Sometimes i could not get the counter roll to work on the bigger guys so i would just throw down a smoke bomb and kill him. The stealth is so goooooooooooo!
If these games were combined it would literally be my dream AC game.. the world and story of Origins with the stealth of Mirage would be crazy and the parkour from Unity would be a big plus
Ngl I couldn’t get into Mirage even though I really wanted to. I stopped after the first black box mission. I think the game would be much better if it was built upon origins framework rather than Valhalla. But I’m glad ppl like it so we might see more og styled games.
Did you see the new gameplay showcase of AC Nexus? It looks good! Also yeah I prefer Mirage as well even though I love Origins I just can’t go back to upgrading my hidden blade and xp based progression.
I was waiting for a video like this after mirage released. Luv ur content ❣️
Mirage is way better than origins lol
SPOILER!!!!!
This might be off topic but when Loki merged with basim it’s not like basim is gone it’s more like you put a strawberry and a banana in a blender. I was confused about the ending hopefully this helps people who also didn’t understand.
Bruh are you serious 😐 this is the biggest spoiler I’ve gotten so far and I didn’t even open the comments section to see it. PLEASE delete this dude
Still need to try Mirage. From what you explained, I think I will like it. I also agree that Origins has a gorgeous world and an amazing story.
Combat wise, since it's more difficult and it seems more grounded than Origins, I think it's better in Mirage.
I like Mirage. But Origins, is amazing. One of my top 3.
as gameplay origin for sure but the music in mirage it's just pure gold i'm still listening mirage music from the first day of release till this day
I think a perfectly sized world is Rogue's, you have the North Atlantic to explore on boat, you have River Valley to explore the wilderness on foot, and you have New York as a city to explore
I'm fairly certain that the North Atlantic is much smaller than The Caribbean in AC4, but as a whole Rogue has a "bigger" map, as in more playable area, not necessarily just one big map though
Before I even watch the video I wanna say the better game is Origins.. by a long shot
I did the platinum for Mirage, it was worth it and it was fun
Can you please do a retrospective on Tomb Raider 2013? It's 10 years old and In my opinion it still holds up.
Also I'm hoping that Ubisoft Bordeaux will improve and expand on the foundation they laid out either in a sequel or a different game set in a different time period.
Let’s not forget that Mirage is also a much shorter game. I enjoy origins but it’s pretty long. After experiencing how crazy long Valhalla was, I really appreciated reaching the ending of Mirage.
A sense of completion is always nice.
'The start clothes of Arno and Basim are very similar' were my thoughts after seeing Basim.
While I still love Origins, I definitely prefer Mirage. Going through the bloated world of Origins like a checklist will always be a slog to me. Mirage's smaller, more focused map feels very encouraging for multiple playthroughs. Not to mention the larger tool kit is precisely what I felt Origins stealth was missing.
ONe thing I miss from origins/Odyssey was that they put in Overpower attacks that gave you a super cool attack and then took it out from Valhalla/Mirage.
I am an old school AC fan, after playing Mirage I re-visited Origins again, my-oh-my Origins in 2023 feels like a game came yesterday and Origins is soooo much soo much better than Mirage, atleast for me it felt like that. I could feel the love and passion the ubisoft poured on origins while playing it, the combat the stealth and most importantly the jaw-dropping story was so amazing. For the first time in my gaming years playing a game for the third time felt like playing a whole new game.! Origins is simply astonishing.
Both of them are equally good in there own way origins gave me the grind and Egypt was amazing mirage on the other hand gave me the stealth and feel of an assassin because it took place in a city setting again wasn’t as populated like unity was but i had such a good time
The combat in Mirage was such a mood killer, I’d be having fun all the way until I had to fight someone. Great game, but it could’ve been THE best comeback for AC with a better combat design.
Although it is unlikely, I still hope and believe that Mirage's motions could change. If I'm not mistaken there are a few games where whole scenes are changed for better experience, and I think if Mirage's developers' dedication and if the sales are high, they could pull off applying motion capture in scenes that are really in need of it.
I love both, it's hard to choose as both games go for different things. Maybe I prefer Origins a bit more because of story and Bayek (as I like him more than Basim) but Mirage is also amazing.
Mercenaries are just too easy to kill in Mirage, but the game play and story is the thing here.
Story I'd say goes to Origins, holy crap its good, and Bayek's back story? Amazing.
Game play goes to Mirage, it just feels like home again (By that I mean like the older games), the parkour is incredible and is even more useful for dense areas like cities, which is why Mirage is fourth place in parkour for me, the other three being the Ezio Collection.
I like Mirage more than Origins.
u should compare mirage and ac1. i recently beat the first game for the first time after completing mirage. they are both very good and suprisingly similar in my opinion. ac1 is obviously held back by things like graphics and animations and even the lack of story but through all that i felt like the first game held up extremely well and encapsulates the feeling and simplicity of being an assassin much better. i personally found altair wayy cooler and i liked the dullness and darkness of the world(even though its always day:/). parkour was super similar to me as well but being able to eject and stuff made 1's feel better. combat was better, i liked having kill animations for the sword, dagger, and hidden blade, and them all being different in skill to pull off a counter kill.
I have similar thoughts as you, Origin has great art and a large area to explore, and Mirage has a lot beautiful scenes in the rich city Bagdad. Also, I like the stealth system better in Mirage than Origin, spending my time and create strategy for it is fun! One thing I like to point out, I really like the Discovery tour in Egypt and Greek worlds, but they cancel it in Mirage, I feel bad that I cant walk around the city, watch scenes of people's daily life, and listen the tour guide in the background. I knew there are history documents I can read, but it doesn't feel the same! I guess it probably caused by the low budget, and I hope they will make Discovery tour for Bagdad as DL in the future. They put so many beautiful details in Bagdad, it will be a waste to not create a tour with them.
I think Origins is the better story but Mirage is the better game. The fact that you don’t have to grind to progress thru the story or upgrade the hidden blade makes the gameplay so much more enjoyable. I love the first two rpg games but the leveling systems were horrible in Origins (idk why but Odyssey didn’t have the same leveling issue for me).
Origins is so much better.
Now that I finished watching the video, I agree with most of what you said. I will point out, however, that I believe Origins does have better AI than Mirage. For instance, in Origins, if enemies find another soldier dead, not only they will be alerted, but eventually one of them will actually pickup the corpse and drop it somewhere else, changing their routine. Also, their night routine is different than their day routine, which may be beneficial for infiltrating at night and can also change the enemies patrolling route while you are infiltrating, as some of them may actually go to sleep. Despite that, I agree that the stealth is better in Mirage.
As for story, I disagree with your opinion on Mirage's story and characters. I honestly believe Mirage has the worse story and characters in the entire franchise. Basim is the blandest main character in Assassin's Creed, and his dynamics with Nehal don't make any sense, even in light of the ending. The story is almost uninteligible, with characters throwing a bunch of hard to read names around and completely bland and uninteresting plot points. Eventually, I tuned out for most of the story. I felt no connection with any of the characters or villains, and I was just assassinating for the gamepla, like I mentioned in my previous comment. The characters and story of Origins are leagues better than Mirage, in my opinion, and rank amongst the best in the entire series.
Anyway, great video!
This is pretty hard, but I honestly got to go with mirage. Baghdad is so nice, I love the outfits and Easter eggs, and everything. My favorite thing to do is use the Altair outfit and turn on the AC1 color filter. Only complaint is I wish there was more content.
I think the fact that people are arguing which game is better is a good thing. It keep discourse going and gives the fanbase differing opinions and perspectives. It helps make it less of an echo chamber, and I think that’s a good thing overall.
they should keep the bird. not really for stealth stuff.if it can attack like in odyssey well thats goo too but i mean sometimes watching these entire cities from up high man makes my jaw drop many many many times. they should keep it i mean you can play without using it but for exploration of the city landscape etc its soooo damn good. i mean sometimes i play other games that have beautiful worlds to and i forget im not playing AC and i try to get the bird up to see the landscape. they should keep it
For me, it’s Origins and it’s not a competition. The gameplay is very fun in both games tho.
My biggest complaint with Origins is that the map doesn’t really allow for good parkour. Though I do think it more than makes up for that with literally everything else in the game, such as the beautiful map, the amazing story, the (sometimes too) diverse range of weapons, the kill animations, the cutscenes, the side missions, the writing, the voice acting, etc. I don’t even mind the more RPG-like elements of Origins ‘cause unless you’re one of those people that only play the main story, you’ll never really have a level issue and stealth is still very much a viable way to play (it’s how I played 99% of the game).
Unfortunately Mirage doesn’t do quite as much anywhere near as well. It brings back parkour, though it’s based on Valhalla’s parkour system, so although the map is rooftop heaven, it feels pretty sluggish. The combat is very much back to basics and it’s pretty fun, though I find my parries don’t always work. The stealth is definitely an improvement on any of the last 3 games, I quite like the tools and their upgrade options as well. Now that I’m done with what it does well… onto the rest. Although I am glad to get something more focused on the actual brotherhood of Assassins (Hidden Ones), the story is not very compelling, nor is it very well written, which is only made worse by the terrible voice acting, with a few exceptions, it’s pretty awful across the board. Even the good VAs sound bad in the game thanks to the writing. 90% of the cutscenes are still over the shoulder dialogue. What side missions there are are very boring and don’t seem to serve much of a purpose. And finally, the map is pretty boring, there’s no noticeable variation between the different parts of Baghdad and there’s not a whole lot going on outside of the city either. I’ve also noticed the NPCs are a bit odd, a lot of the time they’ll just be standing in the middle of the bridges or streets just doing absolutely nothing, staring off into space.
The origins soundtrack is just amazing, the story and stuff, I like both gameplay styles both classic and rpg
Origins assassination skills are underrated imo, it takes time to unlock and learn them but the skill ceiling is higher than it seems but it's very rewarding when you use them together.
I actually need a crossover between you and the hidden one on yt. Great content
Origins is stunning the fact Ubisoft made that game and delivered an amazing story with a massive world which yes can get repetitive but playing it for your first time you’d most likely love it. The protagonist bayek is for me the most unique with his show of emotions and dedication to for fill his revenge story and it shows throughout the game and especially the start with the knife in the mask scene. Personally after not even playing mirage yet, I’ve seen so much gameplay and I definitely agree with animations and the speed for parkour but then again this game is new and of origins had a massive update with changes like that it would be the best AC game but it’s understandable why their focus was the rpg at the time. As this is in my top 3 favourite AC games with black flag and AC Unity up there, all have different reasons on being up there I think AC Unity would of been the best AC game if it came out in this date but the rpg games it’s definitely AC origins for now but let’s see what Code Red brings cause I’m very excited for it as long as it’s not like Valhalla.
Both amazing in different ways, It’s very difficult for me to compare the two
Been waiting for someone to post this comparison video, glad it was you 😎
Origins story is more emotional and the whole game is more polished but gameplay wise I prefer Mirage and it's not even close.
just wanna say im new to the franchise. originally came to assassins creed creeping from shadow of war looking to get my toes wet with other similar games. while the combat in this franchise will never be as cinematic or noob friendly as in shadow of war (which i shouldnt expect completely different franchises) i want to thank you personally. you have definitely helped someone like me who has fresh eyes on the franchise make up my mind and so for that reason im going to stick with a top 5 i plan on sinking into. my top 5 will be 1. origins. 2. black flag. 3. syndicate 4. odyssey. 5. brotherhood. thats my take away from all of your videos thank you alot for the comparison videos you being an connoisseur on the franchise has definitely made things easier.
I love both but mirage is the better game in my opinion. Although origins has a better protagonist and a better story, gameplay and mission-design is so much better in mirage. The stealth is great in mirage, might even be my favorite stealth system of the series. The blackbox assassinations were a lot of fun. And of course the open world. Baghdad is probably my favorite city in AC. Or rome, I can’t decide.
ac origins menu theme is soooooooo good
As an OG AC fan, if Origins allowed us to instant assassinate main targets, side objective targets and high level enemy commanders after getting the hidden blade(without the need to upgrade sh*t) and it had Mirage's combat and stealth options, it would have been a masterpiece, the crown jewel of the AC RPG trilogy and maybe Odyssey and Valhalla would have been widely accepted if they had the same gameplay features.
Mirage has felt like a cross between Revelations and Origins to me ever since I saw the trailer.
Origins is still one of the highest on my list, but after replaying Syndicate and Unity this year.. Mirage just doesn't quite cut it for me - Baghdad looks drop dead gorgeous tho
They are pretty different games, ones an RPG and the second one is a classic AC, so a comparison between this two is difficult. They are different experiences but personally I liked Mirage more
22:33 Agree. Aya was a great sub-protagonist.
In the story, Bayek is a character who is relatively lacking in political aspects, not only because he has a relative lack of connection to politicians, but also because he does not trust politicians.
(Like Connor Kenway in AC3 or Jin Sakai in GoT, Bayek is a kind of people's fighter.
It would have been strange if Bayek, who had no connection with Rome, had assassinated Caesar.)
The character that compensates for these shortcomings is Aya.
Of course, Bayek also had his own creed and sense of purpose, and was a character who was much more involved with the people than Aya, and he awakened Aya from her blind loyalty to Cleopatra.
As married couple characters and main/sub protagonists, Bayek and Aya are characters who complement each other's shortcomings.
I really want to see a sequel to Bayek/Aya.
Basim’s Creeds contracts are the best feature in the game. Doing hits on people makes you an assassin. RPG games side quests are better for exploration
I like both but I prefer Origins. While I appreciate Mirage for going back to its stealth roots which gave me lots of nostalgia, I didn't find myself invested much in the story or side missions in Mirage but instead I was just rushing through the game while occasionally enjoying the nice views. Origins gameplay may not be stealth focused but like you correctly said in this video we are given the choice on which gameplay style you want to apply which gave Origins more depth in my opinion. All and all if its mainly nostalgic and traditional AC stealth gameplay you value then Mirage is better but if its story, exploration and characters with less stealth options than Mirage and past AC games then Origin clears. 💯
Thank you for making this video! I'm really considering buying Origins after finishing Mirage.
Can't get enough playing around desert!
Currently replaying origins after playing mirage. Mirage felt like a refresh of the older way assassins creed and tbh I appreciated that from ubisoft cause I understand that they need to cater to their newer audience more than the OG players. But, Origins is by far the better game.
It's really not a fair comparison. But if the vision of Mirage was given the same level of scale and care Origins got then Mirage would be better in my opinion
Not even then
I would like a video where you discuss the skill of Basim against the other assassin's, like is Basim better than Jacob Frye or maybe even better than Arno.
That’s a very interesting concept I actually think about a lot. I feel like I’m terms of strength and without the bs gods, Bayek might be stronger then Connor, but skill wise, I couldn’t see him surviving an assassin from Blacl flag and earlier as all of them are easily more skilled fighters who utilize stealth in a far more advanced sophisticated way. But he is more skilled then the Frye twins and Arno, and without powers, he beats eivor and the misthios
Origins and black flag will forever be my favorite games
I agree with the 3 points
World: Each has its own merits, but as an Assassin's Creed game, Baghdad world is better designed
Stealth: Mirage really made me play like how I used to play. Just as I did in Unity and Syndicate. The tools yoi have encourage you to use them.
Combat: Mirage can be better, as an Assassin's Creed game. Just take note of Sekiro. The fights are fluid, and responsive. My main gripe is when enemy blocks your attack, they stop for a second, when they should be using that time to strike back, and you having to counter again. The break in the flow kills it.
Story: Gonna give it to Origins. It's always a different feel when your character has their own motivation for the story. Also the voice acting. It really feels weird in Mirage. Like it's good but you know they're not giving it their all. Maybe because they don't record it together with the other actors. They just have to imagine the responses.
16 hours for Mirage main story is passable. Short but straight to the point. But I think I lean more to the 25 hours. Anyway this game is cheaper.
Mirage’s music reminds me so much of Origins as well
Mirage was held back by being a stealth game built on the rpg platform
Origins is one of the best game of all time! Whenever I hear Bayek's voice I get goosebumps, that shows how phenomenal of a character he is. Origins will always be my favorite AC, as I haven't played Mirage yet waiting for it to come on Steam.❤️🔥
As a fan of the original assassin's creed games (not the rpg ) I say mirage
I am a fan of the og games as well but still prefer Origins
@@evanpaluch6190 I understand
It's about preference
I just finished mirrage and I loved it but I don't know which one I loved more probably equally
Make stealth the focus in future games but beef up direct combat also