hey mike , great tutorial btw..ive run into a problem thought. i have done everything you've shown , but one i get to midi mapping and select "user" , i turn the top nob to assign the "start" point , but the slot at the bottom of screen that reads "press a midi key or move midi controller to make assgn" doesnt acknowledge the fact that im moving the knob , the "clickable" tab that pops beneath and says negative 2 etc doesnt show up, what gives?
Hey on the choke group part of this video, you can set the first one to a choke group and then click on it and then select copy to siblings and it will copy the setting to all of them.
Peace, Sun. I went through this technique with every controller I have (Akai MPD32, MPK49, and Maschine in Controller mode) and it the start and end markers don't move as fine as you are doing; it moves in increments of 250 or so. Is there a way to really do this with any other controller? Or is the precise scrolling only possible with Push? I'm stumped for right now. HELP!!!
Great tutorial, I highlighted all the clips and assaign parameters to control pitch and velocity. I prefer to keep them as audio files instead of putting them into a drumrack. It gives you more flexibility, especially when you record a part, consolidate it and then use warp and quantization.
Do you think it's possible to do all of this w/o interacting with the pc? I'm a little hesitant to make the move to Push (I really really want to!) because I don't want to loose the awesome sample editing capabilities in Maschine (1.8.2). I'm thinking I might just keep the Maschine and load it as a plugin in Live and use it as my sampling. #imtorn
Hi, Love this little video, just a little something to add though. I got my Push yesterday (14th Feb 2014) and the User port wasn't enabled for remote control as standard. I had to go to Live's Preferences -> MIDI and switch on Push User Port in 'Track ->On' and 'Remote -> On' before I could map the start and end markers to push in 'User' mode. Cheers.
I actually set this up before, I used it in my push sampled beat video. I named my rack 'sample chop". When I chop with warp markers and use the 'convert to new midi track' I chose this rack and everything is set, but when I drag clips into this same rack for some reason it doesnt work the same. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong.
Load an audio track with a audio clip. Make sure the track is selected with push. Hit the button that says clip. There you can set the start points and length of the clip without touching the mouse. Having clips locked to certain notes in user mode will make you spend more time setting up new sets. If you think about it and create blank drum rack like this you could load 127 cells with the same song and adjust with a macro. Search 'The Last Drum Rack You'll Ever Have to Make" VIDEO
I'm pretty sure if you delete them all it will not save your settings. When I tried it with live 8 it didn't work, prolly because my settings were in the clip itself.
What I don't understand is if you're duplicating a clip with the start and end points mapped to midi won't the points be messed up on the first clip by editing the 2nd one? What am I missing
Mine did some weird stuff like that too. I just tried all those settings at the bottom till I found one that worked right. Maybe its a different setting for your controller. I sold my MPD32 or else I would figure it out for you.
I'm missing something here guys. I have map mode enabled but when I go to move the nob it doesn't seem to recognize therefore i'm not getting to the "relative 2 comp" option. can someone please walk me through this, because I would love to learn how to sample using this technique.
Aj Santana I'm not sure why. You may have to change something in the midi setup. (live, preferences, midi, midi sync) Probably have to enable certain midi ports.
I had this problem in the past. My scroll wasnt smooth, it would jump. But with push and these settings this didnt happen anymore. Guess maybe it is the controller. This happened with my MPD and my LPD8.
Again this video is how to chop samples with Ableton & Push like maschine. For those that say use slice to midi or use the macros in the drum rack that has nothing to do with maschine. I know and use those methods, the point of this video is get the MASCHINE sample workflow. And this method DOES NOT time a lot of time, its a one time set up.
i dont have that type of intricate control with the start and end.. it jumps drastically. thought my nob was broke so i assigned it to something else and it was fine
thanks wasabi.. im getting frustrated finding tutorials for ableton.. feeling more like work and less like fun.. i even said eff it and paid for a lynda tutorial and it had the same problem as free tuts.. i think the problem is that the people making the how to's are all ready far along in the learning process and kinda forget the beginner struggles
haha.. im about 4 days into my break after 2 weeks of tuts.. i always forget about reddit, even reddit failed me.. everyone suggested this guy that makes tuts that spent the first 18min talking about his finger.. im gonna try again when im less likely to punch myself in the face
that was really helpful.. thank you so much! But that high frequency flute was so irritating.. Please choose a less irritating sample next time for the video.. hehe
Thanks for the tutorial but this can be accomplished in normal (Not User) mode by loading a clip and accessing the macro parameters at the top of the push. This tutorial in fact takes twice as much programming to get the identical result.
I was having trouble getting live to receive input from Push when in User Mode. Read here on how to set up Live to receive info from Push in User Mode - go to the ableton website and add this to the end of the address: /en/articles/push-user-mode/
Good work around, but this is what is fundamentally wrong with the push. This option should be in drum rack. They need to some how be able to edit, and trim within drum racks. Until they get that to work, then maschine is winning. This same time, I would of been jamming already on maschine. This is coming from a ableton fanboy
i watched your video and copyd ur lil tech here and eveything went well, chopped up some ub40, but after i realized there was an easier way to chop it... *** IF YOU CONVERT THE AUDIO FILE TO MIDI, it will give u the option of how u wanna chop it up and itll make a nice little drum rack for u with everything in line... also user mode is a biatch...
Yo man peep this if you haven't seen it. It's a hack script that adds some pretty cool functionality to PUSH in User Mode. Pretty dope.... Isaac shares Ableton Push "Hack" Script PXT from Native Kontrols
i want to do it with a bcf2000 controller. but midi values are just 0-127 so how can i slow down the endless encoder on my bcf ? any idea how to do this without makin my own max patch ? :D
hey mike , great tutorial btw..ive run into a problem thought. i have done everything you've shown , but one i get to midi mapping and select "user" , i turn the top nob to assign the "start" point , but the slot at the bottom of screen that reads "press a midi key or move midi controller to make assgn" doesnt acknowledge the fact that im moving the knob , the "clickable" tab that pops beneath and says negative 2 etc doesnt show up, what gives?
Thanks man, appreciate what your doing. You really helped me out. Keep grinding
Hey on the choke group part of this video, you can set the first one to a choke group and then click on it and then select copy to siblings and it will copy the setting to all of them.
This is very good thanks. How is it different from using "Slice to Warp Markers" in Ableton Live 9 though?
Super informative, love this vid. Is there a way of making the samples 'monophonic' so that they cut each other out once played?
Yes, I set mine up in advance. I saw a youtube video on how to do it.
Peace, Sun. I went through this technique with every controller I have (Akai MPD32, MPK49, and Maschine in Controller mode) and it the start and end markers don't move as fine as you are doing; it moves in increments of 250 or so. Is there a way to really do this with any other controller? Or is the precise scrolling only possible with Push? I'm stumped for right now. HELP!!!
Hey when i turn my knobs on my push zoomed in they move way to fast. How did you manage to turn them like in the video?
How would you do drums for a track like this? Would you use a drum loop or would you play drums on the pad?
How do you get the each sample to cut out after another pad is played? so each sample doesn't overlap each other
Great tutorial, I highlighted all the clips and assaign parameters to control pitch and velocity. I prefer to keep them as audio files instead of putting them into a drumrack. It gives you more flexibility, especially when you record a part, consolidate it and then use warp and quantization.
Thanx. How exactly would this work? I'm pretty sure your mistaken.
Don't forget to setup the correct Push MIDI in/out in the preferences before you try this : www.ableton.com/en/articles/push-user-mode/
And turn off WARP too like he said. That screwed with me for a couple minutes. ;)
Cheers Bro :)
I can't get my nobs to sync with the start and end. My push is synched, but I don't know what is going wrong.
Do you think it's possible to do all of this w/o interacting with the pc? I'm a little hesitant to make the move to Push (I really really want to!) because I don't want to loose the awesome sample editing capabilities in Maschine (1.8.2). I'm thinking I might just keep the Maschine and load it as a plugin in Live and use it as my sampling. #imtorn
AJ Sorenson Thats the point of this method, to reduce your interaction with the cpu. One its set up you hardly touch the mouse for chopping.
Can't you delete all the clips before you set it as default? Great Video. Inspiring me to make a similar one.
Mike, when i'm adjusting the encoders they aren't moving by a single frame, they're moving by 4. Where do you adjust this??
Can you save this user mode as a Push preset so you don't have to do this setup everytime?
Cool tips, thanks for sharing.
Hi,
Love this little video, just a little something to add though. I got my Push yesterday (14th Feb 2014) and the User port wasn't enabled for remote control as standard.
I had to go to Live's Preferences -> MIDI and switch on Push User Port in 'Track ->On' and 'Remote -> On' before I could map the start and end markers to push in 'User' mode.
Cheers.
This is what I needed, thanks
Thanks mike ! Nice job
I actually set this up before, I used it in my push sampled beat video. I named my rack 'sample chop". When I chop with warp markers and use the 'convert to new midi track' I chose this rack and everything is set, but when I drag clips into this same rack for some reason it doesnt work the same. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong.
Load an audio track with a audio clip. Make sure the track is selected with push. Hit the button that says clip. There you can set the start points and length of the clip without touching the mouse. Having clips locked to certain notes in user mode will make you spend more time setting up new sets. If you think about it and create blank drum rack like this you could load 127 cells with the same song and adjust with a macro. Search
'The Last Drum Rack You'll Ever Have to Make" VIDEO
I'm pretty sure if you delete them all it will not save your settings. When I tried it with live 8 it didn't work, prolly because my settings were in the clip itself.
Thx so much! nice tutorial! was looking for that!
Would also like to know how. Did you find a way ?
What I don't understand is if you're duplicating a clip with the start and end points mapped to midi won't the points be messed up on the first clip by editing the 2nd one? What am I missing
vforvillain77 Each clip is completely separate. The cutoff point of one sample won't effect the start point of the next.
is there way to map zoom? i will stay with my maschine ;)
Great tutorial man! Thanks for sharing =)
Thanks man. You sound like Devin the Dude, nice and chill.
Great tutorial, thanks for sharing
great video taught me a lot there
Mine did some weird stuff like that too. I just tried all those settings at the bottom till I found one that worked right. Maybe its a different setting for your controller. I sold my MPD32 or else I would figure it out for you.
I'm missing something here guys. I have map mode enabled but when I go to move the nob it doesn't seem to recognize therefore i'm not getting to the "relative 2 comp" option. can someone please walk me through this, because I would love to learn how to sample using this technique.
Aj Santana Yes! i have the same problem! can anyone explain? is it because i have abelton intro?
Aj Santana I'm not sure why. You may have to change something in the midi setup. (live, preferences, midi, midi sync) Probably have to enable certain midi ports.
Can you please do a video of you walking through how to record from your Push from the Internet with RUclips?
Maressa Pirro I planned to but didn't. I think I will do that next.
I had this problem in the past. My scroll wasnt smooth, it would jump. But with push and these settings this didnt happen anymore. Guess maybe it is the controller. This happened with my MPD and my LPD8.
hey mike if you dont mind tellin me. What sample/song is that?
John Johnson I would tell you but I don't remember.
Really helpful man, thanks.
7:36 RIP Headphone users
+Fastmagnum004 yeah holy shit mike.. can you not hear that distortion on the flute's highest note?
+FRANK LLOYD WRIGHTEOUS sorry no offense, but you would do well respect your viewers' hearing and at least use a limiter on your audio..
why dont you use slice to midi?
this can be done on any controller then right?
yep i use the mpd232
Is all your ever need...
People always love to say that, and it's never true in the long run.
Again this video is how to chop samples with Ableton & Push like maschine. For those that say use slice to midi or use the macros in the drum rack that has nothing to do with maschine. I know and use those methods, the point of this video is get the MASCHINE sample workflow. And this method DOES NOT time a lot of time, its a one time set up.
can this method be used on the launchpad pro?
+Aston Hinds >not quite sure.
i dont have that type of intricate control with the start and end.. it jumps drastically. thought my nob was broke so i assigned it to something else and it was fine
thanks wasabi.. im getting frustrated finding tutorials for ableton.. feeling more like work and less like fun.. i even said eff it and paid for a lynda tutorial and it had the same problem as free tuts.. i think the problem is that the people making the how to's are all ready far along in the learning process and kinda forget the beginner struggles
haha.. im about 4 days into my break after 2 weeks of tuts.. i always forget about reddit, even reddit failed me.. everyone suggested this guy that makes tuts that spent the first 18min talking about his finger.. im gonna try again when im less likely to punch myself in the face
Is there a way to map duplicate?
Eli fan Not that I could find. I was hoping there is a way.
that was really helpful.. thank you so much!
But that high frequency flute was so irritating..
Please choose a less irritating sample next time for the video.. hehe
or just keep the volumes lower. Great vid tho.
tracklabstudios lol yeah it gave me a friggin heart attack
Such a long way round...
Thanks for the tutorial but this can be accomplished in normal (Not User) mode by loading a clip and accessing the macro parameters at the top of the push. This tutorial in fact takes twice as much programming to get the identical result.
I agree.
Has been working fine.
Now you can dothe same thing with the slice mode of the new simpler instrument
Exactly
I was having trouble getting live to receive input from Push when in User Mode. Read here on how to set up Live to receive info from Push in User Mode -
go to the ableton website and add this to the end of the address:
/en/articles/push-user-mode/
4:45 one, two, three, four, fiiiiiiiveee=))) b.b. king=)
I do both.
Thanks that was interesting
Good work around, but this is what is fundamentally wrong with the push. This option should be in drum rack.
They need to some how be able to edit, and trim within drum racks. Until they get that to work, then maschine is winning. This same time, I would of been jamming already on maschine.
This is coming from a ableton fanboy
This video is hilarious!
Thanks man
Can u tell me the commands for a pc
+W4sabiNinja Okay thanks
thanks
i watched your video and copyd ur lil tech here and eveything went well, chopped up some ub40, but after i realized there was an easier way to chop it... *** IF YOU CONVERT THE AUDIO FILE TO MIDI, it will give u the option of how u wanna chop it up and itll make a nice little drum rack for u with everything in line... also user mode is a biatch...
Maschine doesnt have slice to midi.
I know that method, This is something completely different.
Oh shit I thought it did
Yo man peep this if you haven't seen it. It's a hack script that adds some pretty cool functionality to PUSH in User Mode. Pretty dope.... Isaac shares Ableton Push "Hack" Script PXT from Native Kontrols
That doesn't work with choke groups.
Fell asleep.
Glad I could help.
theres no point in chopping like this it slows down the flow
For sho my brotha
this can be done on any controller then right?
Yes
i want to do it with a bcf2000 controller. but midi values are just 0-127 so how can i slow down the endless encoder on my bcf ? any idea how to do this without makin my own max patch ? :D