The Machine Shop Aboard Cruiser Olympia
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- What do you when you're at sea and need new parts? Take a look at the machine shop aboard Cruiser Olympia at Independence Seaport Museum to learn more about how sailors would repair parts and machinery.
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The lathe is the most important tool, from making new shafts to bushings.
i thought the same thing, the lathe can do anything the drill press can do, especially with that big 4 jaw chuck
🤨 Nah, the most useful "tool" to have at your disposal to ensure your warship remains in "ship shape", is to opt for the extended manufacturers warranty when you purchase the ship! It's also smart to have a membership in the AAA subsidiary, called "ASA"(American ship association).
👍 You know how the AAA will send someone out to help you when you've got a flat due to a hole in your tire? Well, the ASA will send people out during battles, to help "patch" torpedo holes in your hull! Or they'll help you reinstall your fire control systems, when they get blasted off of the upper superstructure by enemy cruisers...
⁉️ Strangely, the ASA has a very low worker retention rate, although no one understands why.......
@Storm Shadow What's your point shithead. Needles to say you have no clue how to machine your way out of a paper bag.
I concur
@@patrickhennigan9689 but you don’t machine pulped wood products….
I would dispute the statement that the drill press was the most important tool. The lathe can do anything the drill press and it can make parts to repair the drill press.
I was going to say this but you beat me to it!
Totally agree, the lathe is the most important machine in the room.
I basically agree, but you could make a drill press into a vertical lathe, if you had to, at least for some operations that a lathe does. I suspect that the drill press was the most frequently used power tool in that shop, which is a measure of importance.
@@Ferndalien Ever try to use a drill press for a lathe??? I've had to in a pinch, and they suck at it. And while the drill press might very well been one of the most used machine's, the lathe was what did all of the critical work. You aren't going to machine new seal assemblies for a condensate pump in a drill press.
@@Ferndalien A machinist's imagination is their only limitation! That goes for all the machines in this shop!
So far, no one has mentioned what it must have been like in that confined space using tools that can maim or kill you while at sea. The pitching and rolling would have made any job 1000 times harder and more hazardous. But if you needed a part, perhaps to save the ship, the machinists would have had to do their work regardless of weather conditions. These videos are terrific. Keep them coming.
I'm a fabricator by trade, so never used a lathe in my work, only a pillar drill. Watching this video gave me 'shivvers' at all those moving belts and gears, with LOTS of potential for "finger removal". Brave men in those days and modern workers don't know how lucky they are. Imagine trying to make something urgent in a hurricane.
Gimmi a brake ! that little space was my job for along time . I wasnt on a ship , I was on a barge , towed by a Navy tug , that carried a Piscies Deep Sea Sub . We had newer stuff than those old machines , and no line shafts .When its rough out , you dont want to walk far , you usually need something to hang on to . The sub launched out a hanger door at one end of my area . One day in rough weather , they had to open the door to let a zodiac in , behind it was a huge wave . The shop got rapidly cleaned . I turned around , to an empty work bench , no tools ,no mics , no hydraulic pump pieces I was working on . Call Liz , the FlyGirl , for an air drop .
I wonder how many people fell onto a machine due to the rocking of the ship.
@@paulbains9152 well that doesn’t seem too smart a design. You don’t plan on having the door open when it’s rough but if the potential of a wave cleaning out the shop is a real possibility… hope the folks on that zodiac were important lol
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The last mission of the USS Olympia, the flagship of the Asiatic Fleet during the Spainish American War at the Battle of Manila Bay, was just after WW1. The mission was to deliver the recently designated 'Unknown Soldier' to Washington DC. The body was moved only by 4 Army and 4 Naval Officers all 8 wore the rank of one star. Retirees, who had formally served on her, were offered the opportunity to serve in ships company for the mission. This ships company was rank heavy as many volunteered. When the mission was completed, the USS Olympia sailed to Philadelphia and docked and is still there today. Thank you for taking such good care of this national treasure 💖. I know it must be a challenge but I'm sure you are up to it.
I was a Machinist's Mate aboard the battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) for three years. No, in the modern Navy MMs don't run machine tools (I worked in the engine rooms), that's done by MRs (Machinery Repairmen). But I did have much to do with our machine shop and the men who worked in it. Going from memory here, but I remember (at least) two large engine lathes plus a small South Bend toolroom lathe, a horizontal mill, a large shaper, a Bullard Vertical Turret Lathe, and I'm sure that we had drill presses although I don't remember size or type. No vertical mill, but with the shaper and the horizontal mill our MRs could work around it. The next compartment forward held a full motor rewind shop, and there was an overhead monorail which connected (via a chain hoist through a large hatch to the third deck) to the monorail which ran the length of the engineering spaces down Broadway.
As the commentary here said, we really couldn't stock enough spares for all of our equipment. Instead we carried "blanks" which the machine shop could finish into needed parts...and not only for our ship. During our deployment to the Persian Gulf in 1987 we were the most capable repair facility within 500 miles, and our MRC used to grouse about being assigned "to the only tender in the Navy with fourteen-inch armor!" Good memories.
I love shops/machine tools, and ships/all things naval...
This one was a jackpot for me! Thanks!
Thank you for sharing this great machine shop tour. When I was in Philly for a Navy reunion years ago, the Oly was closed for tours. I am thankful that you present video tours of the ships features.
It’s funny, growing up I must have been aboard half a dozen times, built the model 2-3. But I sure don’t remember Olympia ever looking that good back in the ‘70s. 👍
Split Bed lathe is actually called A Gap Bed. That drill press, the larger one is mounted in a tough spot to be using the lathe. Also that style of drill press was referred to as a “Stiff Head” because of the two bearings mounted far from each other. If the original motor still worked that would really be impressive. Not surprised it doesn’t function. The Shaper isn’t seen much these days in relatively modern machine shops but was a huge use in most all machine shops for decades. A planer would be a larger version of the same type of machining operation. I’m an old school Tool and Die maker and still working (66) and it’s glorious to see this machine shop that is like the ones my father worked in his whole career. He taught me the trade. I simply must visit this time piece soon.. thank you for the presentation. Outstanding job keeping her so beautiful.
It's possible the original motor is still capable of working, and they just don't have a source of DC power sufficient to run it.
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I was going to mention the gap bed lathe but I noticed that the machines are operating dry. Very bad. Must be oiled before use. The dc mother would work fine and there should have been a winding area on ship or on a sister ship to rewind it. I know battleship Texas has one.
You would be in your 90's if you were old school. At 66, you are still an apprentice.
@@M70ACARRY actually would be true for most but I served my apprenticeship under my father who was 66 in 1980…one on one ..between 1980-1989 in our own shop which had only three Index Mills (no DRO’s) one 9” southbend lathe, one 6x12 hand surface grinder, one bench top drill press, one die filer, one vertical band saw, one small cut off saw, one heat treat oven, one set of torches… that’s it. I got to learn how to design and build stamping dies, jigs and fixtures from him and he served his apprenticeship in the Pennsylvania Rail Road where old school was practically invented. I’m 66 years young but I still design on a drawing board.. that’s the old ways.. from this “young” apprentice.. lol
Fascinating. I could spend days poking around in that workshop.
Awesome love the old machine thanks keep them running
Very impressed that you have that machine shop going
I am a retired navy MR. That is a big shop for the size of the ship.I worked one time on a ASR 13 Kittywake she was a 250 foot ship. Most people don't understand what it is like machining while at sea on the atlantic. The ship will rock upto 30 degrees. After that it gets trying because when the ship tilts the back play will come out and break your cutting tool. But you can time it cut up hill and stop for the down hill. That shop as you can see is osha approved. They would love the open belts.Of course you dont run all the belts at once. They will be going allot faster. I went on that ship back in the early 80s I don't remember seeing the machine shop.
The lathe is always the queen of any machine shop.
Ah yes, the workbench, thats where my coffee cup goes
Never put your coffee cup on a metal workbench, it goes cold to quick
Very interesting! Great video!
Interesting to see the belt lacer by the work bench. I laced a few belts with one, even the leather belt on my South Bend Heavy 10 lathe. You might want to know, the lathe is the only machine that can duplicate itself. Worked with shapers too, in the early 1970's. Thanks for Sharing this marvelous video.
Fantastic great job thanks for sharing!
You missed something. All those leather belts were from BUFFALO! Until small electric motors were developed, and reinforced rubber vee-belts, those line shafts with belt take-off was what powered the Industrial Revolution. The leather was stronger, thicker, with fewer scars that weaken the leather.
That fact gets skipped over, a lot. If you walked into ANY machine shop, in most of the industrial world, in 1895, you could see all those buffalo hide belts.
The condition of that drill press table says bad things about the “machinists” (?) who used it! In most privately owned machine shops, you’d either get beat, fired, or both for damaging a machine like that! Good tour, and a true museum piece machine shop!
It is in bad condition but it's over 100 years old and it was used at sea. I'm sure using a drill press at sea is significantly different than onshore.
Holes in the table are normal but there are quite a few.. Chalk it up to newbies.. good journeyman usually stop making such mistakes after the first hole… lol.. usually
@@paulbfields8284 Usually being the operative word! I worked 41 years as a certified welder at a railroad car and locomotive repair facility, and it amazed me how many forklift blades got chopped off inadvertently by people using cutting torches on steel supported by the blades! Had quite a few repeat offenders too! And, like Washington chopping down the cherry tree, I did indeed gouge one once! Not nearly all the way off, but a good notch anyhow! And only once! (or that’s all I’m confessing to!)
I noticed that too, the same thing in the machine shop on the New Jersey. Maybe they let random sailors use the machines for their own projects or something as no professional machinist would ever drill into the table? And I would expect anyone ignorant enough to do such a thing in the navy back in the day to be keelhauled or at least flogged for their stupidity.
I used to teach construction equipment maintenance at a vocational institute, we had three different sizes of drill presses (from a small bench top model to a huge radial one), no holes in the tables even though they had been used by thousands of students over some 30 years, most with no prior machining experience. We really made a point of not drilling into the table when teaching them how to use the machines.
Back in elementary school workshop class I did see some swiss-cheesed drill press tables though. Maybe the teachers there were less careful in instructing the proper use of tools.
@@Murgoh show me a drill press table with no holes or gouges in it and I’ll show you a machine shop that’s not very productive. Same thing goes for milling vises. And mill tables. It happens. You do what you can to avoid but yes.. it’s usually an apprentice..
If OSHA had been around there never would have been a Navy.
To be fair, OSHA standards have saved many lives and limbs in the past nearly 50 years.
The drive belts in that machine shop are little different, if at all, from the drive belts used in land based factories and machine shops world wide at that time. Yes, there were more injuries back then.
Brilliant, genius. Real "out of the box" thinking there. I suppose that, to in your reality, the abolition of press gangs and floggings was a bad move, also?
I’m curious what osha violations that ship machine shop actually has. Probably just the belt drives. All the machines there have potential to be dangerous but modern machines still have the same danger too.
I seem to remember a milling machine as well. A horizontal milling machine. I was last there in 1989.
Terrific video. I remember touring the Olympia back in the early 1980's and none of this was operation. As a professional machinist making parts for 100 year old airplanes, I love this. Thank you for all your hard work! Maintaining this ship must be a tremendous challenge.
That was awesome thank you
Good vid.
I've toured that ship,and submarine next to it...the ship is incredible inside..the captains quarters is amazing...
Great video!
Wonder if they also had a blacksmith shop and foundry, you think they would.
In WWII lots of guys made knives in Ship machine shops like this
Hi, one suggestion is a display cabinet containing a selection of parts, all labelled made in this machine shop.
Very nice. Master Chief Bob Briggs took me all over the ship back in1986 but we must have missed that. From an old machinist thank you.
Better be keeping those ways well oiled if your going to running them like that on display all day long. That could all be damaged if its ran dry.
The 1890's wasn't as primitive as I thought...
Very few modern machines today last more than 10 years. I guess back then quality was indeed job 1.
Wow, modern-day OSHA inspectors would become apoplectic looking at this...
Yes, I suppose they would but for historical purposes some small souvenir items could be made to demonstrate the functionality of it...say bolts, screws and nuts?
I have some handmade (apprentice) bolts and nuts, which are over 100years old and show the importance of being able to "make" these important fasteners...
Get some oil on dovetails of shaper
I am very impressed with the great job you are doing with keeping the Olympia going sir... she was and still is an amazing vessel. I was 7 years old the first time I went onboard her, and I will never forget the experience, I was literally mesmerized. Thank you for bringing that feeling of awe and wonder to children of all ages today. The videos that you have been making are great. Much love and respect to you and your crew sir.
the men who used that machinery would of been highly skilled to accomplish what was needed. amazing tech for it's day. what is even more amazing the navy was capable of lifting up some ships sterns while still afloat, to do some prop work, One ship I note was called Piedmont. machine repair ship.. my self, I was in the Army.
I don't doubt they were highly skilled but that drill table tells a few stories. These things will happen but in the toolrooms I worked in there would have been a stern bollocking handed out by the foreman for everyone one of those pits.
just by using a hardwood round pole , you would knock the drive belt for
whichever machine you wanted to stop , Later on on , there were clutch type
apparatus that allowed for stop and start conditions
Need to add this to bucket list. Need to find out where it is located first.
Cruiser OLYMPIA is part of Independence Seaport Museum, located along the Delaware River in Philadelphia, PA!
Very nice presentation. Anybody know how large that space is, and how many machinists would have been working there at any one time?
The most important tool in the machine shop is the lathe, not the drill press. Awesome vid though. I really enjoyed seeing this. Thank you for sharing!
The lathe is way more important than the drill press. The lathe drills, bores, turns diameters of shafts, chases threads..
There is nothing better than a line shaft shop
That looks so dangerous. I would put shrouds around all the pullies and belts. I wonder how many fingers were lost in that shop?
It teaches one to work very carefully and safely, and not blame someone else or pass new laws when you don't. The lesson is swift and sure.
I like how everything turns on all at once. Hopefully nobody forgets to disengage power feed before leaving their machine.
Well! Incredible
I'm both a retired PO, RCN and retired machinist... well, machinists don't actually retire... we play at it in our home shops.
This little shop is incredible... I recognize all the macine tools (yes, even the shaper) and could turn out work from that shop.
Beautiful! I absolutely love it!
BZ on the work done on this beautiful old girl! ❤
As a hobby machinist, this was SUPER cool and interesting! 👍
These machines were made in America l wonder how long the ones made in China would last.
Wow! I work with cnc so my first question would be what's the torque on that lath, it seams to me the belt would slip quite easily 🤔😊
The difference between a shaper and a planer is that on latter the workpiece moves on table under the cutting head, while on a shaper the cutting head moves.
Drill divots on the drill press table WTF. Ha ! ran a shaper once to rough out a plastic injection die block when I first started out in the tool and die trade. They are rarely seen/used now obsolete for the most part.
Really cool,I once had a 1917 leblond lathe,much like that behemoth,belt drive also,with an ac motor over the pulleys and it was a 25inch chuck with a 60 inch bed.
Can't stock parts where do they store the steel 🙄
Interesting video and good to see the machines working. It isn’t the oldest warship still floating. That honour goes to HMS Warrior in Portsmouth, England.
Well he did say steel ship.
Is the British ship iron?
@@josephpadula2283 Warrior was commissioned in 1860 as an iron hulled ship, also the first steam powered warship.
They don't make 'em like they used to.
I think the this channel is going to get big fast keep the great videos coming
Thanks for sharing this video!
I will go into the process of looking for the power source of the electric motor in the machine shop, but also how it was done before that with the steam engine method.
Be well.!
I guess a mill was not around in the 1900s or available
Beautiful old tools. Thank you for sharing.
Beautifully preserved.
Loving the pinup👍 I think it's cool that you could use this space.
It's not Elvira, but it'll do.
I was on a Submarine Tender while in the US Navy. This ship had a machine shop that was the most outstanding I have seen.
Which one?
Hi US Navy . I was the Machinist on a Canadian Sub Tender , the Pender . What ever we were short , we could have air-dropped in 3 hours .
What would I like to see in the future videos about the Olympia Cruiser............
How about everything and anything at all that you can dig up on her! I was a very young kid when I first visited her, maybe 5-6 yrs old. When my older brother Keith took me down in the engine room, I new we were below the waterline and what that ment. So when I saw drops of water slowly dripping from some misc., piece of plumbing I began to freak out!!! I was absolutely certain that the ship WAS SINKING!!!
And that was the end of my historic adventure on the Olympia.
I am now way overdue for a new adventure especially since I am about 60 yrs older since then. I can't wait!!!
I get the historical part…but you would think with the US military budget they’d dish out enough bread to have a couple CNC mini mills and tool room lathes. Haas or a Tormach at least.
I find it fascinating that they found a shaper to be more important to have than a miller, the shaper is slightly more versatile, but insanely slower. On the other hand, milling cutters would require a much more complicated sharpener than single point tools would.
"Gap Bed Lathe" more commonly known as a "Railroad Lathe" here in Heartland, USA.
I wonder what the metal stockroom looks like on such a ship. If they can't bring every spare part with them, they better have enough material to make the parts themselves.
Looks brand new all of it but the old electric motor.lathes can cut many shapes not just round,it can fab most anything.
still use any of it
super daß es solche schiffe noch gibt.
How many men were court marshaled for drilling holes in the drill press table? LOTS
the vice is important. try beating on a piece of metal while holding it with a plyer.
All those exposed belts running in that small space seems kind of hazardous. You'd have to be very alert working in there.
Wow. Just Wow! Thank you for yalls protective efforts.
When was last time Olympia was drydocked & out of the water??
and they got stuff done without warning signs like, do not stick fingers under belt :)
LITTLE TINEY ,where did this guy get hie education?
awesome!
I wish I could've seen that when I was there in 2019.
Nice shop just like we had in high school all belt driven
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The lathe is the queen of all machine tools . She can do anything .
Great video. Not a single CNC machine in sight.
imagine the ship rocking and just getting sent into the belt
That machine shop is not man bun friendly lol
gREAT TOUR!
That whole room looks super dangerous
It looks like all the machines are running all the time. How do you turn them off so you can swap out drill bits and other cutting accessories? Does each machine have some sort of local mechanical off switch or do you have to turn off the common electric motor for all of them?
you slide the drive belt sideways to an Idler pulley which is not driven
Each machine has its own clutch...
@@staffordduecker665 there is no clutch on the drill press. The frame at 2:00 shows the mechanism to slide the belt from the driven pulley to the idler pulley
no grinder ?
Galley.
I'm from year 1952 and has seen/used some of the machines and some just with a motor instaled, when i was a aprentice. I'm glad, it's kept for generations to come.
I'd pay good money to be allowed to make something in that machine shop. For a kid that would be an awesome experience.
I miised spelled kittiwake sorry.
Great Video, Very Impressive !
How would you be able to hold tight tolerances with the ship bobbing up and down?
The best we can guess since nothing is gimballed is that their machinists would have been accustomed to the ship’s movements while manufacturing parts. That being said, Olympia's hull design made her fairly stable in calm seas.
At 4:36 What is that thing in the corner of the room on the floor on the left? Looks like it sits on legs and has a hand crank on it.
Looks like just a portable vise ?
Great video thank you 😊
That's why you had tenders
Wow! Cool equipment.
Great video.
Would be cool to see a video showing some of the parts you make in there with videos of them being made.
some people have no idea that parts had to be made at sea or anywhere else, they seem to think that if you are a fitter then you cannot operate machinery?