Perfect example of disinformation. Orwell never said or wrote that apparently. (He wrote something thematically similar in “Kim”. Richard Grenier, is the author of the quote?).
Only reason this concerns me is for the mental health of our team guys. I think doing this stuff can have bad lasting damage while it might be therapeutic at the moment. Aside from that, I understand the oversight needed and to reign guys back in, but when you create the most deadly/effective human hunters this world has ever seen, don’t get upset with them when they aren’t as clean as the fairytale you drew up in your mind. Personally, I don’t think there is anything wrong with smashing the enemy skull into the ground, the problem was that they were civilians. They didn’t know that though when their leash was taken off. When you let the dogs off the leash, shit is going to get brutal.
You are absolutely correct. I wonder how many of these people think their pit bull is cute (Or any dog for that matter.), but would be mortified and disgusted with what Spot turned into, the day he had to protect them from an attacker.
Correct. See On Combat by LTC Dave Grosman; US Army PhD ret. SOF units deal with a lot. Some come unglued or begin to unravel. The DoD & VA do little to 0 for these classified service members.
The conservative apologists apparently need a safe space. No one is saying that all of the SEALS are bad guys, that's not the point. We never should've been in Afghanistan in the first place. The Afghanis had nothing to do with 9/11. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. We wasted thousands of American lives, killed countless Afghanis, and wasted trillions of dollars that could've been spent on our veterans here at home. We've been there for nearly two decades and haven't made the situation any better. And in the process, yes, we've committed heinous acts, war crimes, and destroyed entire families. If these words make you angry, GOOD. You should be angry at US foreign policy and the military industrial complex that sends our brave soldiers to fight in stupid, pointless wars that DO NOT make us any safer. We are only creating more enemies with these foolish wars.
This is deceptive journalism. "Canoeing" targets isn't an atrocity or war crime. It was an unintended consequence. All US special operations units within JSOC were made to change their tactics to shooting enemies in their faces instead of aiming center-mass (torso) after insurgents were still able to kill Army & Marines infantrymen through touching together wires that ran down their arms to their wrists to detonate their suicide vests in their last seconds alive. The only effective way to prevent it was by shooting them in their mustache areas because the bullet pierces through to the brain stem at the base of the cranium to instantly sever all communication between the body and the nervous system. The caliber of ammunition they use is so powerful that it consequently splits their heads open in a V shape. It isn't done to mutilate the enemy. It's just a side effect of the adjustments that were made by US forces due to conditions on the ground
From the limited research I've done with zero security clearance your information which seems legit is very important to let civilians like me understand what really goes on
Never heard that, thanks for the info. Also no mention in video of the fact that extremists also target the face because of American forces body armor.
Just wondering, has any of Matthew Cole's evidence or accusations been authenticated? There was an awful lot of "I believe","I was told", and "alleged" used here.
@@roze5003 truth is someone who was and is not even at any of these reports is now considered to be truth and fact to you? Well in that case, If you give me a million dollars I will in return be able to give you 3 million back. Lol
You should read the book he just put, out that’s the whole point If they are the elite of the elite and we set ourselves to different standards they have to be held accountable to separate the True elite from the animals.
There is almost zero of this that comes as any surprise to me and further having served myself and knowing the level of dedication our military members carry every day nor do I blame them for being that desensitized to foreign combatants or their humanity. War is hell.
If you have ever heard the screams of what these people do to children as young as three, IS, AQ, TLB, you’d support the hell out of the Seals for matching the violence or going beyond it. I’m an Iraqi now American, I hope the seals never stop and give absolute hell to these Islamic extremist.
I was a Soldier, served 14 years in US Army 3rd SFG 2nd Battalion Charlie Company ODA 3324 & I agree with the civilian & reporter 100%. You guys worship Navy SEALS as though they are Deities & infallible, when it's the exact opposite. We are trained as Soldiers to conduct ourselves with honor, dignity, respect & self-control on the battle field & committing War crimes is NOT something that should ever be looked beyond, excused or justified. WE KNOW BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO KNOW BETTER. There is no excuse under the Sun to act in conduct that is unbecoming of an Officer. Wearing that great uniform does not give us a license to Kill at will & break the law, both Foreign & Domestic. No one is above being reprimanded for their actions & being a War Criminal is a disgrace to the Flag & Armed Services. We take an Oath, we aren't supposed to break that Oath by being barbarians & savages.
@@wolf7el356doesn’t mean the operators deserve prison time for terrorizing the enemy. They’re human. Here’s how to fix this issue. Give them time off or even outright medically retire them with full pension. This isn’t about treatment for the enemy, this is about noticing how overused JSOC operators are. If they’re brutally dismembering ISIS fighters, then that’s a sign that the operator needs help. Not punishment.
@Atheismwillrise Yes it does. We have a strict set of laws & guidelines that we our bound by under Federal & International law. If you break them, you will suffer the consequences. We are taught from Bootcamp to be accountable for our actions & there is no excuse for being a War criminal. What separates us from them is that we follow the rule of law & do not act like barbarians, we hold ourselves to a higher standard than any other collective fighting force on the planet & that's what defines us as exceptional. A JSOC operator knows better than ANYBODY that he's not supposed to do those things, because in order to even get inducted into JSOC there's a long series of assessment & selection processes that happen for all JSOC units in which you are mentally evaluated on how you handle a multitude of different scenarios. They specifically quiz you both in the classroom & in live simulation in the field in mock-ups to see how you're going to act in highly stressful environments. You are briefed before EVERY mission about what you can & cannot do in terms of rules of engagement & specifically how to handle any captured detainees & enemy combatants. What these SEALS were doing was not "terrorizing the enemy", what they were doing is blatantly disregarding their orders & acting in accordance to their own ego & putting themselves above their unit, their command & the mission itself. There's a reason why Court Marshall exist, there's a reason why every Special Operator doesn't act this way, because they all know it's wrong.
Orwell never originated that line, numbnut. He was quoting Kipling in an old article. U.S. Army propaganda attributed that line to Orwell. Think about it: You know, the guy who gave us "1984" and "Animal Farm"? He's probably rolling in his grave over that one.
@@rjs19862011 We'd probably all sleep even more soundly if the U.S. would just quit pissing off the rest of the World, and spend it's money on its citizens, rather than aircraft carriers.
@@rjs19862011 Is it really that socialist if people can have a chronic medical condition without going into bankruptcy? No other industrialized country treats its citizens like that. The U.S. spends 50% of every tax dollar on its military and military entitlements.
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom and protection that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it" - Colonel Jessup USMC (A Few Good Men) The fact that it's a quote from a movie does nothing to lessen its truth and accuracy.
Jessup was a psychopath and the entire plot of that movie revolved around him murdering a marine under his command and instructing his subordinates to cover it up. The only truthful and accurate thing about that quote is that it shines light on the deranged entitlement that often takes root in military communities.
@@frankrizzo454 A little confused on what you don't have a problem with. Any American serviceman should take pause at the notion of a marine colonel ordering the murder and coverup of a private under his command and using the "civies don't understand the pressure i'm under" defense. We're not talking about whether or not enhanced interrogation is acceptable. We're not even talking about America's enemies. We're talking about marines being fuckboys and acting like they can get away with it.
I understood the profundity of this statement, after I stared into a public 💩🕳in a Mumbai Train station, just a few years ago. Layer upon layer of human feces, animated by colonies of flies, mixed with the stench of dried urine.🤭🤢🤮😷 💦💩 I couldn't eat any food for days.
I find it to be dishonest to begin the interview discussing a seal officer bashing the head of a dead man. Only later did we find out this was days after a seal member was killed and decapitated/mutilated. These men aren’t robots and we cannot always separate our human emotions from the ethical standards we try to maintain. Violence leads to more violence, savagery is meet with barbarity.
+Jordan Ross Al Qaida and Seals are supposed to be two drastically different things too. The fact people think its ok for alleged professional soldiers acting as barbaric as tribal Islamist militants is extraordinary.
As the spouse of 2 Vietnam combat vets I can attest to the “fog of war” and wanting revenge. When you see fellow soldiers tortured, mutilated, eviscerated, castrated while alive then put on display how do you think you would react?😡
Are you justifying their actions? Are you saying that team members dying was not expected when you walk into someones country/house with guns in your hands and kill their family?
@@gggromay it's insane how everyone defends this shit. They literally carried hatchets into combat specifically to decapitate corpses. What the absolute fuck
No one is excusing the behavior but that behavior didn't happen in isolation. The folks that committed these actions didn't just wake up one day and say to themselves "let's go behead and skin some individuals". The point of all this is that if you repeatedly expose individuals to atrocious acts of violence they become desensitized to it. This happens in the military, to police, correction officers, etc. What we should be trying to do is come of with strategies to prevent these things from happening. Part of that may be reducing the amount of time individuals are deployed in very hostile environments, more frequent psychological evaluations, extended periods of decompression after deployments.
@@pmh1nic You are right, but nobody is saying it happened in isolation, and even though you can certain things (because your desensitized and nobody is watching), it doesnt mean you should do it, they did know it was wrong, they knew the rules, and truth is not everyone chose to do this things, actually it was a minority, even though many more could have done them they chose not to, so it was a choice and thus you cant strip all responsibility.. I think they derailed, they made bad decisions and the real problem was nobody in command was ready to catch them and help them get back on track. I think part of their training should be focused in strengthening their moral and ethical compase. So in the end the system failed them, and it should be improved, you are right about that.. But it still was their choice, they knew, and if many more others in the same situation could and did make the right choice, then they are accountable for their actions.
When you ask others to kill for you, you have to accept some of the guilt for their actions regardless of whether or not you understood what you were asking in the first place. Politicians start wars. This doesn't absolve all sins committed by soldiers, but it mitigates them. Lynndie England got crucified in the press, got court marshaled IIRC, The person who created the situation at Abu Ghraib has taken up painting and is living a comfortable retirement, never have been held accountable for anything.
@@stephenpoe2037 10s of thousands of those "enemies" in Iraq were innocent civilians who are just like you and your neighbors and family. Wars burn children to death. You should feel guilty for that.
My brother, when you die one day, will you die as an American or as a human being? If there is a God out there, do you think he cares about your americanism or about your deeds in your life? I pray to God that you see the humanity in everyone, regardless of their nationality. Cuz I believe in Adam & Eve and hence we all are siblings....bad people and good people are on both sides.....but unfortunately nationalism has been ingrained in you since your childhood, which will not help you when you are in your grave....wake up my brother.....travel thru other countries to see that you have more in common with the 'Others' than you might think.
michael ellis, don’t bother about the other guy commenting on this. he’s probably just another anti american person who rather terrorist be set free for ethics, rather then show them we don’t take revenge and justic lightly. godspeed
These type of things happen all the time in warfare. My father fought in the Pacific during WWII and using dead Japanese soldiers for target practice was common. Collecting teeth was common. Collecting sculls, bones, and other body parts was common. War turns us all into animals.
Anton Leimbach I wouldn’t compare the wars initiated by America in the Middle East over the last 17 years to WW2. I too had family in the Pacific theatre and suffered at Japanese hands. The prolonged horrific conditions both sides went through battling the islands in the last 10 months were beyond anything, anyone cam imagine today. Some people just like blood lust. Some have their minds turned in overwhelming situations like WW2.
Still have a jar full of ears from my uncle's time in the Pacific. He got paid for every one he had from his father. Retribution from pearl harbor If hell is on Earth.....they've seen it Shout out to the warfighters
I think it's hilarious. I don't see the problem with stomping a couple skulls in. We all enjoy the benefits provided by the tip of the spear but you get butthurt because criminals occasionally get cut by it.
Steny Ethan Mathews killing in and of its self is only so traumatic to the modern psyche because we are disconnected from death. Things like meat at super markets are the cause. Demonizing people is more damaging than killing is. Killing can be appropriate, but demonization is not.
Steny Ethan Mathews I gardened for a living for a decade. Not anymore... but I still garden from time to time out of habit, quietly weeding peoples planter boxes. I’ve never killed for a living, so I don’t need help to stop because it doesn’t hurt anyone when I do my old job out of habit when no one is around.
Let me get this straight... they ask these fellows to sneak in a house at night shoot people...take pictures of the guys quickly... and take hair and skin samples?... and you’re saying they took pictures too soon and took too much skin and hair and shot them in a non respectful way? And they get a little loopy...Come on... most people would go insane if you asked them to do those things as a part of their job...
johnneydoe when they are talking about canoeing it makes me recall a time the UN had to evaluate Marine kills in Iraq I think 2004 time frame.. because the Marines were getting too many headshots and the UN council was concerned that Marines were intentionally executing prisoners.. the investigation concluded that the enemy would only show the top of their heads as they shot around walls (spray & pray) and the Marines had been issued ACOGS/RCO (4x mag optic) so they'd shoot at what was exposed aka the head. War isn't a movie. You don't get a restart. It's you or it's them. Fight or flight. These men were asked to do things many people can't and would not be able to do. ROE's are established and carried out but sometimes war gets the best of man unfortunately & instead of standing by and reasoning many ppl rush to slam the gavel rather than understand the nature of war. It's hell. Anyone curious on the psychological effect war has on man I'd suggest reading "On killing" it really gives the depth to how people coup with the effect war has on them. And what it takes from them.
That's why I don't understand why do folks line up to salute serviceman for doing what they have signed up to do. These guys are not normal. They are insane because you have to be insane to do what they do. Go to a mental asylum, there are plenty of crazy dudes there you can applaud and salute to.
There is no peace without the violence of good men. There are no rules when you're fighting monsters. I wouldn't expect civilians to understand. You all live in bliss because of the actions of a few. God bless our servicemen 🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
This reminds me of a unit in Canada called the Canadian Airborne Regiment. It wasn't so much a special operations force but an elite unit of shock troops. I met several members of this unit well I was living near a Canadian forces base. They were proud of there unit and honoured to be a part of it. But they did admit that sometimes units that create such a mythic reputation can attract soldiers with sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. One of the reasons it was so effective and feared is that its ranks were filled with these types of people and they make very efficient soldiers that have little regard for human life and have virtually no panic in combat.
@@bookreaderson Y'all think that some Canadian white privileged boys are a match for war stricken people at the time that were armed with aks and had fierce loyalty to their clan and had to basically fight everyday for their life?keep dreaming that's the reason they chased out the Americans in 3 days and it took Afghanistan 20 years to do so
When your in a war zone fighting people that want to kill you everyday, you most likely go down some dark parts of the psyche. Its part of the way you cope and survive such a brutal situation. I can't judge them because i wasn't there.
Saddle was American best friend,because with his help and American arms, he million of Irans, when he was not usable anymore they attacked his country with a lie, weapon of mass destruction, American has weapons of mass destruction, which they used inww2, after provoking the Japanese to attack, to use as an excuse to get into War, which was pay for by American money, allen dullard brothers and all the other brown shirts, billarden was working for the USA,
@@jamesquinn5281 I hope you dont know an Eric quinn cause if so you fucked ur uncles reputation bud, either way you fucked his reputation actually and yours for being proud of it. this will be fun kid thanks for the info
@@caposantana8753Eric! Hahaha. Good times bro!!! No he's alive and doing well. When he went Afganistan he was SF and not on a rape squad. He did kill a few people when he was there. Iraq was the country where he made everyone his bitch.
@highmiles 68 Who's back peddling. Rape is a great tool that is used in war. It's very effective and can boost morale. My uncle is a patriot and so am I.
As barbaric as it sounds, I want Seal Team Six to be so FEARED that ANY enemy would flee or surrender to a tree at the thought of ST6 being sent after them. True story.
Yeah, fear the U.S. Gov't goddamn, so that they can push their GMO's, "Do what we say or we'll sanction/regime change/bomb you." And people wonder why countries would rather do business with the Chinese?
Really feared ha, Pathetic in 1989 of the invasion in Panama , Panamanian Army Soldiers with little training killed 4 Navy Seals at an airport during the invasion in the first night, and it took 2 years since 2006 for the Iraqi Resisters to kill Navy Seals in Iraq so who's fearsome now.
@@DEMONFOXALEX Nice. I even noticed in that movie "Lone Survivor" how those guys were all kneeling or sitting upright. If that's how they really operated, then thank god I was trained by Vietnam Vets - Always in the prone position (flat on your stomach whenever possible), behind cover. And I was just a basic infantryman decades ago! You can't reinvent this shit. I don't care how much body armor you're wearing.
The term "war crimes" is used repeatedly throughout this interview by both interviewer and interviewee yet neither specify exactly what war crimes were committed. They don't even define the term. The Geneva Convention on the other hand does quite clearly define war crimes. When viewed by someone sitting in a comfortable and safe video recording studio who has never been in combat are some of the alleged actions repugnant? Yes, but even if the allegations are absolutely true and accurate are they "war crimes"? Not according to the Geneva Convention.
@@wolf7el356 Civilians always die in war. That's especially true in modern war with bombs and missiles. That reality is recognized within both the Geneva Convention of 1949 and the US Uniform Code of Military Justice.
@@bobhunt4402 Deliberate killing of civilians is not the same thing as collateral damage or blowback. To murder an unarmed civilian that poses no threat to you is a War Crime & there is no justification for it on any level. We're specifically trained to NOT do that, especially a Navy SEAL from DEVGRU.
Two quotes come to mind after listening to this report. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” Wars are ugly and sometimes you have to go in deep to get to the level of the enemy that you are trying to eliminate. We have units that are capable of doing this and they are extremely effective in what they do. These units operate outside of the public eye and that is where they are supposed to stay. These units sacrifice everything from family life to marriage to spending hardly anytime at home due to constant deployments. The second quote that comes to mind is, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". The two people (reporters) in this video are so far out of their element in regards to what they are talking about. They are literally on the outside looking in, however, what they are trying to see is incomprehensible to them.
Well said. It is frustrating to listen to their opinions and judgements when they've no idea what it is like to be in those situations, no idea what it feels like to lose comrades, teammates, squadron mates during incredibly high stress, intense life or death combat operations. I am so incredibly grateful that these guys are still out there on our behalf, ridding the world of those that would do us harm.
It is absurd to put these brave and absolutely essential warfighters in the hellish fights they are ordered to be a part of, and then criticize the way they do their duty. This is far from new. British forces in India regularly executed Punjabi fighters with cannon fire to obliterate their remains. In the minds of the Punjabi, this kept them from going to their afterlife. If you're going to combat a culture of death, like extreme Islam, you must be willing to fight on their terms. To not do so is to guarantee defeat. SEALS are extremely well-trained, patriotic warriors, and sitting back, safely behind the wall of protection they help keep maintained, criticizing what they do in the heat of battle, while risking death and worse, is deplorable.
Kevin Gossett; I absolutely agree with you Sir. Please correct me if I'm wrong, first we send these elite dedicated warriors to fight a brutal enemy that torture untill they're satisfied and then behead them while recording it for the whole world to see if they get caught, second, our country keep deploying them to the front lines and even behind enemy lines time after time after time well beyond the "burn out" point and then our country treat them like criminals even to the point of having a hard time getting help from VA after they return. I think that this is similar to the "civilians" asking for a fair trial for the ones in Guantanamo. Well, there are no trials at all in war, either you live or get killed. Most of these critics so called "geniuses" haven't even been servicemembers let alone been in combat trying to make the correct decisions under fire and in extremelly dangerous enviroments. Maybe we should send "Girl Scouts" with a lot of cookies on deployments against these enemies or the critics can pick up a rifle, munitions and equipment to solve this issues against these unmercifull individuals,(taliban, isil or any other), so they can make the right decisions and do what they think is right. It's very easy to talk of an issue when you haven't experience it. Civilians may not even care of the phychological problems that these servicemembers bring back with them, problems that cause the fracture of their mental health, family circle and even to the point of committing suicide if they do not receive the appropriate help on time. This servicemembers certainly deserve so much better. SEMPER FI!!.
Seal Team members get intel from other sources. If they "hit" a caravan in effort it is due to bad intel. Besides the fact that bad guns are imbedded within these groups and "wedding" goers like The Left is imbedded in "news blogs" like this one.
One of the most important aspects of that mission was to identify him, so seems like they either did it afterwards, it didnt happen, there was a cover up, or the seals are just as human and sloppy as anybody letting pride and emotions get in the way.
Lots of keyboard warriors in this section playing COD and watching glamorized Hollywood movies with cool soundtracks ... far from reality, safe in their western homes. War is hell. There’s no glory, no honor, especially these days. Watching someone lose their humanity doesn’t just extend to the enemy that so many here celebrate, it doesn’t end there. Psychopaths are not awesome, they’re assholes who only care about themselves, that means they couldn’t give a fuck about you and in this field, may well daydream about doing something sadistic to you whilst laughing that you’re defending them, buying their books, kissing their ass on social media. Don’t get me wrong, not all special forces are psychopaths, perhaps a minority as they’re a liability. Watching someone you love become brutalised, lose their humanity, severe ptsd that they don’t want to confront or momentarily is not fun. This is all for the elites, betrayals and constantly switching sides, proxy wars between world leaders that are quite often in bed with each other. Is it worth it, no. But please don’t let me interrupt your circle jerk session
Nexus Be honest now, who is really circle jerking here, you & your guilty conscience maybe? Shut the fuck up man, if you were dumb enough to go over to killing fields for the rich cause they said some guy in a cave flew planes into New York (they also said they could find the plane blackboxes in the wreckage but they found the highjackers paper passports) but bin Laden didn't shut down NORAD that day, Cheney did that with the help of some other individuals..... .....might point is if the killing fields were not to your liking, maybe you shouldn't have been there invading other countries to make rich people richer based on lies. Next time you want to get all holier than thou and bent out of shape remember this: In just the 2 u.s. - Iraq wars and the sanctions a grand total of approximately 3,000,000 Iraqi people died, about half in the last war Iraq had been our ally fight Iran for 10 years before the Gulf War, he was told he had u.s. approval to invade Kuwait but George H.W. Bush was playing him. Then his son made up an excuse to go invade their county because they said a man in a cave in Afghanistan flew planes into New York- 3,000,000 Iraqis killed where they lived that had not done anything to us to make rich Americans richer. They stole a whole country and didn't even share the spoils with the army, the boys got sent home missing limbs and having PTSD and we're promptly forgotten. Do you feel bad about how it all turned out, you should ..... Everyone should.
julian assange is an enemy of the united states who’s actions have probably caused the death of countless operatives who were exposed because of his need to play hero. one day america will be able to seek revenge, god bless america
Who cares how OBL died? He would give zero fks how you died. If you ask a dead guy some questions nothing but silence...not that I think sociopathic displays are necessary but one must remember the first death at ones hand is the hardest even if it’s a rabbit..but after that it’s not as hard.. war makes monsters it’s if they can come back from it.. my guess is these lib college professors who look down on us knuckle draggers support the Ukraine war but it’s antiseptic to them, where our own guys being thrown into battle after battle r menaces n should b dealt with...
Tom Modeski I agree, You don’t ask men to protect you from all enemies, And then question the very men manner in which they protect you. It must be real nice for this guy to sit comfortably knowing that his freedom is being protected by the very people he’s stating are crossing the line of protection.
Right, because El Quaeda frogmen are swimming across the Atlantic Ocean and forming sleeper cells in Omaha,as part of an international plot to take out Con Agra. We must stay strong, comrade!
xfbth4z you would have to be a sociopath to not have that environment of killing twist your mind up somewhat.....we need soldiers to protect us if they are not killing innocents, which is not OK, who are we to question them?
This dude said “their acts were hidden from the public.”....well I could be wrong but even their Identities are hidden from the public. If their identities are hidden of COURSE their acts will be.
This is a smear campaign by Obama, hillary and Biden because they knew their secrets are coming out and they will hang untill dead.. That's the reason Biden ran for president, God is having fun with him right now untill the revelations come out but make no mistake ,they will face justice . No Mercy to Traitors.
I think the SEALs should be able to take home the severed body parts of people they kill. So what? Everyone needs a trophy once in awhile to tell everybody the good work they've done.
What is legal isn't necessarily moral and what is moral isn't necessarily legal. Right and wrong 'actions' can Only be determined by their effects, not by decrees. For instance, you cannot legalize 'murder' by calling it something else, like 'military actions', then, therefore, apply virtue to the term, but then say that head stomping the 'enemy' is immoral. It's philosophically inconsistent, through and through, because murder, already, on its own, is a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle. You cannot, by proclamation, change Natural Law or undo the consequences from its violations. By ignoring this fact, people will always be subject to manipulation and/or confusion. Governmental laws, words written down (or in the case at hand, 'rules of engagement' for the people that they 'label' as soldiers), are something akin to magic spells. It's like a magic trick. Yep, our Rulers are like wizards/magicians in the way that they try to change/manipuate reality. And unfortunately, it feels like we are being lead away from those bloody, hard-won principles that mankind has discovered over the millenia. Btw, it has never been clear to me by which principles Democracy Now is operating from.
@@Bazompora Indeed, the neo cons went into Syria anyway, despite a No vote from Congress. Such was their humanity and concern for the "plight" of the Syrians. - and helped ISIS etc Al murder unthinkable numbers of them. Syria survived with help from Russia and Iran. Libya not so fortunate. See "Benghazi Whistleblowers. The Story behind the cover up."
So to sum up your nonsense word salad, Would you agree that what you mean to say is that when it comes to war, Anything goes. As the nature of war is savage so those who become embroiled in it must become total savages otherwise they may be called hypocrites. If so I think You may have been reading your Philosophy and Ethics books upside-down or something. Your Simplistic dogma although wrapped in big words is akin to saying we evolved from monkeys so lets not pretend to be any better than a Chimps. A standard you seem to be living up to, If your comment is anything to go by.
I Love It When People Who Have Never Been In Combat Or Shot At, Place Judgement On Those That Have!! Sleep Well Under The Blanket Of Freedom That These Warriors Provide!!
I was thinking this exact thing. I don’t support unethical treatment of civilians but it is completely laughable how some desk jocky can ridicule these elite operators. ESPECIALLY regarding excessive force against the opposition. I get the complaints, but you don’t understand - they are literally in hell on earth
One video with a whole lot of interesting information. The Navy better get its shit together. The American people are watching, and we know a Nazi when we see one.
The jihadists would do worse to our children. War is chaos. People do horrible things doing war. Trust me, when someone shoots at you, you don’t stay philosophic. You get a rage that can’t be described. That is why war is tragic. People become prehistoric when in battle
@nick sweeney killing people because someone else told you they were bad ? really , this is a profession . are you real ? so if you were to kill another , who had raped or killed one of your "family" . and do it in your own way . you are a murderer and you will go to jail . that's because we have rules and laws in place that will deal with the perps of the crime against yours . there are rules of engagement in war that need to be adhered to also , otherwise all sorts of atrocities will be carried out . but unusually its the allies that carry out most atrocities as we are now discovering . how do you make the distinction betwixt war crimes and acts of valour ? is it based on who carries the acts out ? it would seem so . war crime if a foreigner does it , act of valour if its an ally .
@@gerardvaughan1847 Name one SEAL Team 6 operator that's ever come home and killed himself. Just one. Then shut the fuck up because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Huevo Duro702 Yeah I guess killing civilians, beheading and mutilation is all part of War. Interestingly these are all things ISIS does, I wonder what's the difference between America and all the other terrorists.
Your assumptions are based on nothing you assume I'm Muslim based on my name. But I'm actually atheist, religion is for dimwitted fools like yourself. I notice you lack the mental capacity to have a civil conversation without hurling bigoted insults. Also you should know ISIS kills more Muslims than Christians, so by their actions alone they don't kill people for being merely Christians. Anyone who doesn't buy in to their nonsense is fodder for their guns. You said they only behead dead people as if that's some how better. Can you imagine it. Someone all ready dead and another person trying to cut off their head. That's even more psychotic. You can justify the deaths of civilians how you want, and regurgitate nonsense fed to your kind by your corporate controlled media. But the reality is America is no better than those it fights, in many cases worse. But the reality is stupid Americans go and fight wars that have notjing to do with terrorism or soreading democracy. But has everything to corporate interest. Soldiers go to war with dollar signs on their back dying for oil and 9ther resources.
What drives this little weak lamb chop to question and try to expose the Shepards that protect him and his fellow sheep family? Did he just say battle field ethics? Did he do his service? Foreign or at home? ]
Don't try to reason with ANY of these sheep... Drop them behind enemy lines for an hour, taking fire and mortars from some indistinct rooftop somewhere, and watch them BEG THE U.S. to issue an airstrike to save them, regardless of the "collateral damage"...
@@kevinm4209 To get into Dev, you must have a few years under your belt before going in. You can't apply off the street or be assigned to JSOC right after completing your training. This was the a key principle of the unit from its conception. Go watch CNN and eat a bat
Why is it that anyone who was never in the military and reports for a living seems to think they have the moral high ground on any topic of warfare? Hats off to all the brave men and women who put their asses on the line for all of us. I served with many in the military who did the same thing and would do it again if they had to. The only thing the third world respects is violence. If you dish it out, then don't snivel when it comes back and bites you in the ass.
They killed innocent people for fun. That’s still murder, they chose to serve and the people that did this shouldn’t be justified just because they got what they signed up for. I’m sorry but if you’re in a third world country like this and start killing innocent children, I draw the line and think you’re a human piece of shit. I’m sure the majority of people who served wouldn’t do this and think these actions are just as egregious as they are, but the ones that committed these actual war crimes should be shot.
@@rron5641 In 1970 during the Viet Nam war, I was drafted into the United States Army and served with the paratroopers in the 82nd Airborne Division. After that I joined the United States Marine Corps from 1972 to 1976. I am no hero but served with hundreds of hero's. I am proud of my service to my country and if my country asked me to serve today I would do so without hesitation. You see, I am a patriot. I believe in my country and believe all of us have a obligation and a duty to serve if our country ask that of us. I may disagree with the political opinions of others but I will serve my country to defend anyone right to voice their opinion no matter how repugnant I think it is. That is what makes the United States the greatest country in the world and I would defy anyone to find any other place where you can find the opportunities and freedoms that one can find here. Peace.
In vietnam.....they put skulls of the vc on their tanks...war is hell...and not for the weak hearted...to second guess them after the fact is wrong...attrocities were made on both sides of every war since the beginning of time...If you train someone to kill without prejudice...dont be offended if they dont do it politically correct.
Never realised it was a wedding party that attacked US on 9/11. They keep changing their story ! Still, at least we got the Poppy fields back in production. The damn Taliban had decimated the industry, and Pig Pharma was not a happy Easter Bunny !
God did say "an eye for an eye" and he changed his mind later and said "turn the other cheek". Our boys can eliminate the bad guys without behaving like them...point of honor.
The war started after the terrorists trained by the US military training camps in Afghanistan guarded by US military soldiers attacked the USA. They were all Saudi citizens who attacked the USA on 911 and no Afghan people were involved in the camps or attacks on the USA. This was established by CNN and federal prosecutors and children who spoke to the soldiers guarding the training camps were arrested as persons of interest but held without hearing or trial in Guantanamo Bay Cuba and federal prosecutors were fired by the White House attorney Brett Cavanaug citing executive privilege. Afghanistan people were not involved attacking the USA at all. Taliban ISIS and Al Queda are Saudi terrorists trained by the US military training camps in Afghanistan. Afghan people were not involved in attacks on the USA at all.
Caving the dead guys head in creating a brutal scene is otherwise known as psychological warfare. Sorta like flying airplanes into buildings forcing people to jump a thousand feet to certain death.
The whole problem with America is lack of Ethics Ruby Ridge Uss Liberty Waco All would have been handled different if the government had Ethics in mind
US Govt is "advised" by the fake Jew Satanyahoo, The CFR, and Congress controlled by a bunch of Zionists known as AIPAC. That is why. If it don't fit his agenda, ain't gonna happen.
So, they accidentally bombed a wedding convoy and shot dead terrorists in the face? What does anyone expect? Did anyone think what these guys do has zero collateral damage and zero gratuitous violence? Stop being so naive.
How do you control a group of hardened killers? I mean really, who is going to supervise them out in the field? Certainly not keyboard crybabies, or some pampered high ranking officer.
Most military units are run by the enlisted soldiers. Officers provide guidance and direction, but the enlisted personnel make it happen. Sergeants and Petty Officers make every unit work. Officers get involved when needed, but normally in a limited fashion.
Exactly. They are trained to kill expertly. The military should deprogram these guys when releasing them back into society. We shouldn't be there but that's another topic altogether.
I don't care, when this unit is.called in you"re going to receive the best of the worse in treatment. Sometimes mistakes are made it battle and those who cross the line should be dealt with internally regardless of rank.
Nearly three thousand comments in this thread, but I'm adding mine anyway. Do I favor more wars? No. Is it acceptable behavior to mutilate the enemy post-mortem? No. There are laws governing our behavior even in wartime and combat. There are also protocols and localized rules governing our professionalism. Dead is dead. Even if we lost a teammate and the enemy did shitty things to his corpse, retaliation is accepted and expected, mutilating the dead is not. We become no better than the enemy we seek to destroy and defeat by succumbing to the impulsiveness that creeps into the mind after suffering the loss of a close friend, brother and team member. It would be best if politicians and their global banking controllers, those inbred psychopathic bloodline banking families, who always benefit from (financing BOTH sides plus) all the killings, bombings, terror attacks and worse, didn't do everything they can to start wars and send our people off to kill and be killed. But the masses haven't yet figured that out. Until then, until ALL people wake up and start working together to make the politicians do what the voters want AND people can resolve their artificially created differences (stop buying the media lies) to become united to a common goal of ending their grip on everything, every system, including education, entertainment, banking, media, medicine, industry of every kind, food production, access to information, the intelligence community, communications, the military, organized religion, and so many more systemic and global sociological controls there will be no peace and no end to wars on this planet. There are but a few families with access to limitless wealth that have been behind every war and genocide for centuries. Incredulity and disbelief by the average person to see that their control is in fact very real are two of the best tools they depend on to retain their global power. Try reading. The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy by Jim Marrs, any of his books actually, and books written by Fritz Springmeier, or Johnny Cirucci for much more about the real rulers of this world.
Hatred has no place anywhere... ever. An exceptional soldier needs a sense of purpose, physical conditioning, a quick and creative intellect, a heart that wills him beyond the limitations faced in conflict and the knowledge that truth and justice is on his side.
The ignorance of this accounting and responses are amazing. You'll never know what it takes and costs both physically and mentally to conduct these missions. Revenge is human nature. War is brutal and ugly and is won by men willing to do what others won't. Canoeing, is a slang term for effectively killing your enemy. I've never seen someone killed nicely or beautifully....
I agree lolan, so many of these third world countries harbor these animals, and when a high ranking priority target of these animals pop up, no better than a seal team moving in and taking these targets out and hopefully in a brutal way to give their victims some kind of justice
What a ridiculous reply. And you think that the amount that these men have gone through justifies them to mutilate civilians - innocent people who lost their lives because we were to impatient to to verify a target? You me sick.
Because dying on your feet is better than living on your knees... I'd rather die a free man than go on living as a slave... We didn't... Remember 9/11?
Mark Chambers What war? Ooooohhh you mean Middle East. Well sorry pal but that's not a war, it's a murdering feast of million civilians. When US gets in war and they starting to lose millions citizens then we can call it war, but when US invades countries and killing millions of people that's not war.
shark wolf Well said. Many of the other morons commenting seem to have missed the fact they were all Civilians shot up and bombed in the first instance. I can understand a Soldier losing it with an enemy if he has just lost friends to the enemy. You don't though take it out on Civilians that have been killed. Not on. That Officer needed to be removed from command. He either was mentally not suited to start with or had become mentally deranged. There is no place for Officers of that type. They belong out of the unit under treatment.
These men are heroes who put their lives at risk hundreds of times during a combat deployment, and they should be given great latitude to prosecute our enemies. War is hell and terrible things happen in combat, including civilian deaths. If these jihadis and their families don't like the treatment they get, they shouldn't crave war.
As a Viet Nam Combat Veteran no one is a hero. Your either a victim of the unknown when you got drafted or enlisted. No lost soul expects to become a butcher. Serving in the Military doesn't make America any safer & in most cases doesn't help your life experiences which will come later in life.
your argument could easily apply the other way around lmao "If these americans don't like the things terrorists do they shouldn't fuck with other countries"
12.35. The saddest thing is that there are Americans that will defend and praise this. Little do they realize, that by doing so, they're no better than terrorists. Trump and many of his supporters will love the idea of this sick behavior.
Jews are people who follow the traditional beliefs and holidays of Judaism. Just like we follow Christian holidays like Easter and Christmas. Mostly ordinary people with no special status in society.
I love how everyone commenting on this channel honestly thinks a RUclips channel is going to be able to uncover anything on the most secretive and most classified military unit in the world.
Seal team 6 is not the most secretive unit in the world. Delta Force is more secretive, JTF2 in canada is more secretive even the priminister of canada doesn't know everything including their deployments. Many countries have more secretive tier 1 than seal team 6. CIA has its own special forces who are more secretive.
i believe it happened, and its disgusting and should be prevented, but given what happened to their soldier on essentially the first day, can you really blame them? what kind of trauma gets exchanged on the battlefield is disgusting. I dont really blame the soldiers, i blame the people who sent them there.
We're in a war where no prisoners are taken. So I don't have a problem with it. Also this reporter doesn't realize Spec Ops guys train to shoot in the head. You shoot someone in the chest they can still press a button and detonate their explosive vest. Shooting them in the head turns their lights off immediately. It's a very good skill to have if you're going up against terrorists who use suicide vests. I've seen a lot of people shot in the head and have never seen a "V" that leaves the brain exposed as he describes. The brain has the consistency of pudding. If you shoot someone in the head the skull bones shatter and the pressure of a bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound causes the top of the head to blow apart and the brain always splatters everywhere. Sometimes it completely removes the brain from where it sits leaving an empty bowl. That might be what they are describing as a canoe. Either way, OBL got what was coming to him. So have many others you will never hear about. As far as the wedding party. It was a mistake and war is full of mistakes. The head stomping was rage coming out due to the loss of his team member. If you lived in the wild west and someone chopped up your little brother or mom to pieces, you just might stomp that bad guys head a few times yourself. It's something many regular folks have in them. Not just SEALs.
People don't switch off when you shoot them in the head, you have to shoot them in the brain stem, which is a small target, and in a confrontation pretty mobile. You shoot people in the head if you think they have armor, or if it just happens to be the first thing you lock onto. The US works in the world with partners, and based on a population the majority of whom don't share your values. That's a problem whether you see it as weakness or whatever doesn't matter. Shooting one old dude doesn't win wars. You can kill tons of people and just make it worse. That is how this mess started, though radicalization of Egyptian prisoners, and the transfer of them to the war in Afghanistan to toss out the Russians.
I guess you don't follow the prisoner swaps ... I've poked around at brain tissue and you just don't what you're talking about, also nobody is trained to shoot for the head, they're trained to win. It's not a one sentence training, it's weeks and months of instruction and practice.
33 years in law enforcement, many of those as a homicide detective and 14 shootings on my record. So I do know what I'm talking about. Also I trained every month to put two rounds in the chest and one in the head. I could draw my pistol and put a round on a 8 inch steel plate up to 100 feet away faster than anyone in my last unit before I retired. Unlike some cops, I took my shooting abilities seriously. Not some gun fanatic, I just figured if the taxpayers were gonna pay me to protect them, I was going to give them the best.
Sorry for the upset but I am Indian and once a Pakistani jihadis killed our army captain and beheaded him.. our Naga regiment guys the next day killed the entire jihadi squad exept 2 .. and our Naga brothers ate those 2 ... Distributed the remains ... It's eye for an eye it's war..
Sometimes you have to send evil to kill evil. These Seal teams are not evil, but the things they come up against are absolutely evil. When you see kids' heads on pikes as you are walking through a village in Afghanistan, you see what you are dealing with. I saw a civilian get killed, but he was raping a 3-year-old child. The things we came across, you couldn't even imagine in your wildest nightmares. I'm not a Seal, but I was right there.
If, according to you, SEAL Team 6 doesn't consist of 'real tier one operators' I don't know what group does consist of them (besides Delta Force). Also, if that is what is 'allowed to be released' I don't think that SEAL Team 6 is the most secretive militairy group on the planet anymore, like I already said. Information like this that just gets out in the open would be highly classified in my country, especially when it's about our special forces. I think Seals aren't the silent professionals they used to be, or they should be. last couple of years there have been so many that opened up and wrote a book or made a movie I can't take them as seriously anymore compared to other groups who actually value their integrity more.
JUST LIKE WHAT THEY DID TO THE TEMPLARS OF THE CRUSADES. In war, only the most vicious, savage, and strategic win. Folks, we need to study why war works the way it works. The peace we maintain is not the same around the world. Our laws were written in the blood of our enemies. Try fighting a war against people who practice the same and/or worse with "civili-ty". Surely hundreds of the same wars fought by our SEAL T6 were won with "civili-ty". Fucking enlighten me.
“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”,
George Orwell “1984”.
"anyone can make up any bullshit on the internet and atribute it to anyone as a quote because people are dumbfucks who don't read" - Ghandi
im guessing russian soldiers mutilating ukranians keeps us safe?
warcrimes are not justified you fucking idiot
Perfect example of disinformation. Orwell never said or wrote that apparently. (He wrote something thematically similar in “Kim”.
Richard Grenier, is the author of the quote?).
@@duellingscarguevara bingo
Only reason this concerns me is for the mental health of our team guys. I think doing this stuff can have bad lasting damage while it might be therapeutic at the moment. Aside from that, I understand the oversight needed and to reign guys back in, but when you create the most deadly/effective human hunters this world has ever seen, don’t get upset with them when they aren’t as clean as the fairytale you drew up in your mind. Personally, I don’t think there is anything wrong with smashing the enemy skull into the ground, the problem was that they were civilians. They didn’t know that though when their leash was taken off. When you let the dogs off the leash, shit is going to get brutal.
You are absolutely correct. I wonder how many of these people think their pit bull is cute (Or any dog for that matter.), but would be mortified and disgusted with what Spot turned into, the day he had to protect them from an attacker.
Correct. See On Combat by LTC Dave Grosman; US Army PhD ret. SOF units deal with a lot. Some come unglued or begin to unravel. The DoD & VA do little to 0 for these classified service members.
Perfect!
If you read the book it's actually not anti seal it's a anti bad seal
Seals are inherently douchebags. and shit to work with.
Marines will always be there to save them from their stupid decisions
The conservative apologists apparently need a safe space. No one is saying that all of the SEALS are bad guys, that's not the point. We never should've been in Afghanistan in the first place. The Afghanis had nothing to do with 9/11. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. We wasted thousands of American lives, killed countless Afghanis, and wasted trillions of dollars that could've been spent on our veterans here at home. We've been there for nearly two decades and haven't made the situation any better. And in the process, yes, we've committed heinous acts, war crimes, and destroyed entire families. If these words make you angry, GOOD. You should be angry at US foreign policy and the military industrial complex that sends our brave soldiers to fight in stupid, pointless wars that DO NOT make us any safer. We are only creating more enemies with these foolish wars.
This is deceptive journalism. "Canoeing" targets isn't an atrocity or war crime. It was an unintended consequence. All US special operations units within JSOC were made to change their tactics to shooting enemies in their faces instead of aiming center-mass (torso) after insurgents were still able to kill Army & Marines infantrymen through touching together wires that ran down their arms to their wrists to detonate their suicide vests in their last seconds alive. The only effective way to prevent it was by shooting them in their mustache areas because the bullet pierces through to the brain stem at the base of the cranium to instantly sever all communication between the body and the nervous system. The caliber of ammunition they use is so powerful that it consequently splits their heads open in a V shape. It isn't done to mutilate the enemy. It's just a side effect of the adjustments that were made by US forces due to conditions on the ground
From the limited research I've done with zero security clearance your information which seems legit is very important to let civilians like me understand what really goes on
Never heard that, thanks for the info. Also no mention in video of the fact that extremists also target the face because of American forces body armor.
Just wondering, has any of Matthew Cole's evidence or accusations been authenticated? There was an awful lot of "I believe","I was told", and "alleged" used here.
Trouble accepting the truth huh lmfao
@@roze5003 the truth is beautiful😉
@@roze5003 no but in the real world you need some proof and credibility
@@roze5003 truth is someone who was and is not even at any of these reports is now considered to be truth and fact to you? Well in that case, If you give me a million dollars I will in return be able to give you 3 million back. Lol
@@rp4712 lmao keep bootlicking. Are you really surprised this happens
Walk in their shoes and then tell me you still believe in disrespecting these exceptional men.. Shameful
You should read the book he just put, out that’s the whole point If they are the elite of the elite and we set ourselves to different standards they have to be held accountable to separate the
True elite from the animals.
Amen.
Psychopaths won't disrespect their fellow psychos. For the rest of us normal humans, we'll spit on em.
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Found the bootlicker. How does that imperial boot taste like, sucker?
I wish these guys were here to defend these allegations. Unfortunately most of them died on" extortion 17" that's the story that needs investigating.
There were 18 Seals out of 1,300 and thats an estimate so probably not.
There is almost zero of this that comes as any surprise to me and further having served myself and knowing the level of dedication our military members carry every day nor do I blame them for being that desensitized to foreign combatants or their humanity. War is hell.
If you have ever heard the screams of what these people do to children as young as three, IS, AQ, TLB, you’d support the hell out of the Seals for matching the violence or going beyond it. I’m an Iraqi now American, I hope the seals never stop and give absolute hell to these Islamic extremist.
I respect it
This is another perfect example of a civilian sticking his nose in military actions. You're not a soldier and you're not a veteran of war.
Exactly. This tool just wants to feel important
I was a Soldier, served 14 years in US Army 3rd SFG 2nd Battalion Charlie Company ODA 3324 & I agree with the civilian & reporter 100%. You guys worship Navy SEALS as though they are Deities & infallible, when it's the exact opposite. We are trained as Soldiers to conduct ourselves with honor, dignity, respect & self-control on the battle field & committing War crimes is NOT something that should ever be looked beyond, excused or justified. WE KNOW BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO KNOW BETTER. There is no excuse under the Sun to act in conduct that is unbecoming of an Officer. Wearing that great uniform does not give us a license to Kill at will & break the law, both Foreign & Domestic. No one is above being reprimanded for their actions & being a War Criminal is a disgrace to the Flag & Armed Services. We take an Oath, we aren't supposed to break that Oath by being barbarians & savages.
So only the military should poke their nose in the military? Ah, what could possibly go wrong with that scenario
@@wolf7el356doesn’t mean the operators deserve prison time for terrorizing the enemy. They’re human. Here’s how to fix this issue. Give them time off or even outright medically retire them with full pension. This isn’t about treatment for the enemy, this is about noticing how overused JSOC operators are. If they’re brutally dismembering ISIS fighters, then that’s a sign that the operator needs help. Not punishment.
@Atheismwillrise Yes it does. We have a strict set of laws & guidelines that we our bound by under Federal & International law. If you break them, you will suffer the consequences. We are taught from Bootcamp to be accountable for our actions & there is no excuse for being a War criminal. What separates us from them is that we follow the rule of law & do not act like barbarians, we hold ourselves to a higher standard than any other collective fighting force on the planet & that's what defines us as exceptional. A JSOC operator knows better than ANYBODY that he's not supposed to do those things, because in order to even get inducted into JSOC there's a long series of assessment & selection processes that happen for all JSOC units in which you are mentally evaluated on how you handle a multitude of different scenarios. They specifically quiz you both in the classroom & in live simulation in the field in mock-ups to see how you're going to act in highly stressful environments. You are briefed before EVERY mission about what you can & cannot do in terms of rules of engagement & specifically how to handle any captured detainees & enemy combatants. What these SEALS were doing was not "terrorizing the enemy", what they were doing is blatantly disregarding their orders & acting in accordance to their own ego & putting themselves above their unit, their command & the mission itself. There's a reason why Court Marshall exist, there's a reason why every Special Operator doesn't act this way, because they all know it's wrong.
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
- George Orwell
Orwell never originated that line, numbnut. He was quoting Kipling in an old article. U.S. Army propaganda attributed that line to Orwell. Think about it: You know, the guy who gave us "1984" and "Animal Farm"? He's probably rolling in his grave over that one.
@@rjs19862011 We'd probably all sleep even more soundly if the U.S. would just quit pissing off the rest of the World, and spend it's money on its citizens, rather than aircraft carriers.
@@rjs19862011 Is it really that socialist if people can have a chronic medical condition without going into bankruptcy? No other industrialized country treats its citizens like that. The U.S. spends 50% of every tax dollar on its military and military entitlements.
@@rjs19862011 "That is neither here nor there"? What is that supposed to mean? That you lost the argument?
@@rjs19862011 Do you even know what communism is? Neither here nor there, numbnut.
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom and protection that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it" - Colonel Jessup USMC (A Few Good Men)
The fact that it's a quote from a movie does nothing to lessen its truth and accuracy.
Jessup was a psychopath and the entire plot of that movie revolved around him murdering a marine under his command and instructing his subordinates to cover it up. The only truthful and accurate thing about that quote is that it shines light on the deranged entitlement that often takes root in military communities.
I have zero problem with this. our enemies have done worse but the media never brings it up.
@@frankrizzo454 A little confused on what you don't have a problem with. Any American serviceman should take pause at the notion of a marine colonel ordering the murder and coverup of a private under his command and using the "civies don't understand the pressure i'm under" defense. We're not talking about whether or not enhanced interrogation is acceptable. We're not even talking about America's enemies. We're talking about marines being fuckboys and acting like they can get away with it.
Can you tell me who these enemies are ?
@@frankrizzo454 you guys are the enemies of every creature on earth.
"If thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee" - Nietzsche "Beyond Good and Evil"
@cicatriz like Trump!
@cicatriz total mischaracterization of nietzsche. Yikes.
@cicatriz lol of course you believe that.
I understood the profundity of this statement, after I stared into a public 💩🕳in a Mumbai Train station, just a few years ago.
Layer upon layer of human feces, animated by colonies of flies, mixed with the stench of dried urine.🤭🤢🤮😷 💦💩
I couldn't eat any food for days.
I find it to be dishonest to begin the interview discussing a seal officer bashing the head of a dead man. Only later did we find out this was days after a seal member was killed and decapitated/mutilated. These men aren’t robots and we cannot always separate our human emotions from the ethical standards we try to maintain.
Violence leads to more violence, savagery is meet with barbarity.
Juan Lopez war and your "everyday life" are two drastically different things
....this is how some people Really think....
+Jordan Ross Al Qaida and Seals are supposed to be two drastically different things too. The fact people think its ok for alleged professional soldiers acting as barbaric as tribal Islamist militants is extraordinary.
i know.... all is reduced to blood and bones these days.... yes, we share that, i guess...Doomed ;(
Aren't these men supposed to be professionals? Stop making excuses for fucked up behavior.
We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night
To do violence to those who would do us harm . Winston churchhill.
big mike winston Churchill was a sadist and loved war. Look up his history. Scary really.
That was a quote by George Orwell not Winston Churchill. But very true
Where would Britain be without him?
Right. Because other rough men are defending others. It's called escalation.
Byrnzie400 And yet for some reason it always accompanies it.
As the spouse of 2 Vietnam combat vets I can attest to the “fog of war” and wanting revenge. When you see fellow soldiers tortured, mutilated, eviscerated, castrated while alive then put on display how do you think you would react?😡
I wouldn't skin them, that's how I would react
Are you justifying their actions? Are you saying that team members dying was not expected when you walk into someones country/house with guns in your hands and kill their family?
@@gggromay it's insane how everyone defends this shit. They literally carried hatchets into combat specifically to decapitate corpses. What the absolute fuck
No one is excusing the behavior but that behavior didn't happen in isolation. The folks that committed these actions didn't just wake up one day and say to themselves "let's go behead and skin some individuals". The point of all this is that if you repeatedly expose individuals to atrocious acts of violence they become desensitized to it. This happens in the military, to police, correction officers, etc. What we should be trying to do is come of with strategies to prevent these things from happening. Part of that may be reducing the amount of time individuals are deployed in very hostile environments, more frequent psychological evaluations, extended periods of decompression after deployments.
@@pmh1nic You are right, but nobody is saying it happened in isolation, and even though you can certain things (because your desensitized and nobody is watching), it doesnt mean you should do it, they did know it was wrong, they knew the rules, and truth is not everyone chose to do this things, actually it was a minority, even though many more could have done them they chose not to, so it was a choice and thus you cant strip all responsibility.. I think they derailed, they made bad decisions and the real problem was nobody in command was ready to catch them and help them get back on track.
I think part of their training should be focused in strengthening their moral and ethical compase. So in the end the system failed them, and it should be improved, you are right about that.. But it still was their choice, they knew, and if many more others in the same situation could and did make the right choice, then they are accountable for their actions.
prosecuting seal team 6 for violence is like giving Indy 500 race car drivers speeding tickets after the race
A psychopath is a perfect foundation for a soldier, a politician, a lawyer, a corporate leader, and a florist.
JamesThomas A florist?
YES A FLORIST, YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED!! IT IS WHAT WE WOULD DO TO RELAX!! SO YES LIKE I SAID YOU WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED!! #Resist #RiseUpAndFightback
@Christian, just a vain attempt at a little humor.
BUT TRUE!!
JamesThomas IT WOULD HELP CLEAR MY MIND!! NOW I USE IT TO SAVE MY MIND!!
When you ask others to kill for you, you have to accept some of the guilt for their actions regardless of whether or not you understood what you were asking in the first place. Politicians start wars. This doesn't absolve all sins committed by soldiers, but it mitigates them. Lynndie England got crucified in the press, got court marshaled IIRC, The person who created the situation at Abu Ghraib has taken up painting and is living a comfortable retirement, never have been held accountable for anything.
I have and never felt guild for the enemy that is eliminated by our Military !
@@stephenpoe2037 10s of thousands of those "enemies" in Iraq were innocent civilians who are just like you and your neighbors and family. Wars burn children to death. You should feel guilty for that.
@@stephenpoe2037 your are a physical. You have wife children too……..
@@yossarincatch6051 . How many was he responsible for killing ? And thin Feed his Body to the Pigs !
Support the SEALs!!
War is ugly. Go seals ! The enemies need to fear our military. They will lose the will to fight. This guy is a major P word.
My brother, when you die one day, will you die as an American or as a human being? If there is a God out there, do you think he cares about your americanism or about your deeds in your life? I pray to God that you see the humanity in everyone, regardless of their nationality. Cuz I believe in Adam & Eve and hence we all are siblings....bad people and good people are on both sides.....but unfortunately nationalism has been ingrained in you since your childhood, which will not help you when you are in your grave....wake up my brother.....travel thru other countries to see that you have more in common with the 'Others' than you might think.
michael ellis, don’t bother about the other guy commenting on this. he’s probably just another anti american person who rather terrorist be set free for ethics, rather then show them we don’t take revenge and justic lightly.
godspeed
These type of things happen all the time in warfare. My father fought in the Pacific during WWII and using dead Japanese soldiers for target practice was common. Collecting teeth was common. Collecting sculls, bones, and other body parts was common. War turns us all into animals.
can't imagine what they had to endure.
Anton Leimbach I wouldn’t compare the wars initiated by America in the Middle East over the last 17 years to WW2. I too had family in the Pacific theatre and suffered at Japanese hands. The prolonged horrific conditions both sides went through battling the islands in the last 10 months were beyond anything, anyone cam imagine today.
Some people just like blood lust. Some have their minds turned in overwhelming situations like WW2.
Read the book "With the old Bread" by E.B. Sledge. It will give you a good idea.
WW2 was before rules of engagement and war crimes in general. Genocide was an expostfacto bullshit dog and pony show
Still have a jar full of ears from my uncle's time in the Pacific.
He got paid for every one he had from his father.
Retribution from pearl harbor
If hell is on Earth.....they've seen it
Shout out to the warfighters
Good job SEALs
Why so many dislikes? What deranged, patriotic lunatics can’t handle the truth?
I think it's hilarious. I don't see the problem with stomping a couple skulls in. We all enjoy the benefits provided by the tip of the spear but you get butthurt because criminals occasionally get cut by it.
The ones that pick a side of the pen thinking they run the farm
@@fuckyou1p8r487p93q47 your EL-ite masters enjoy the benefit
ppl should not be surprised. cmon, what do ppl think killing does to your brain? to your sense of self? how you view others?
Steny Ethan Mathews killing in and of its self is only so traumatic to the modern psyche because we are disconnected from death. Things like meat at super markets are the cause. Demonizing people is more damaging than killing is. Killing can be appropriate, but demonization is not.
exactly
+jsizzlesaurusrex Thats also true
Steny Ethan Mathews I gardened for a living for a decade. Not anymore... but I still garden from time to time out of habit, quietly weeding peoples planter boxes. I’ve never killed for a living, so I don’t need help to stop because it doesn’t hurt anyone when I do my old job out of habit when no one is around.
Let me get this straight... they ask these fellows to sneak in a house at night shoot people...take pictures of the guys quickly... and take hair and skin samples?... and you’re saying they took pictures too soon and took too much skin and hair and shot them in a non respectful way? And they get a little loopy...Come on... most people would go insane if you asked them to do those things as a part of their job...
johnneydoe when they are talking about canoeing it makes me recall a time the UN had to evaluate Marine kills in Iraq I think 2004 time frame.. because the Marines were getting too many headshots and the UN council was concerned that Marines were intentionally executing prisoners.. the investigation concluded that the enemy would only show the top of their heads as they shot around walls (spray & pray) and the Marines had been issued ACOGS/RCO (4x mag optic) so they'd shoot at what was exposed aka the head. War isn't a movie. You don't get a restart. It's you or it's them. Fight or flight. These men were asked to do things many people can't and would not be able to do. ROE's are established and carried out but sometimes war gets the best of man unfortunately & instead of standing by and reasoning many ppl rush to slam the gavel rather than understand the nature of war. It's hell. Anyone curious on the psychological effect war has on man I'd suggest reading "On killing" it really gives the depth to how people coup with the effect war has on them. And what it takes from them.
+R. S. "on killing" is a fantastic book.
That's why I don't understand why do folks line up to salute serviceman for doing what they have signed up to do. These guys are not normal. They are insane because you have to be insane to do what they do. Go to a mental asylum, there are plenty of crazy dudes there you can applaud and salute to.
All this is because of a lack of diversity and inclusivity. Sade
There is no peace without the violence of good men. There are no rules when you're fighting monsters. I wouldn't expect civilians to understand. You all live in bliss because of the actions of a few. God bless our servicemen 🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
THATS RIGHT ZZZZZ GOD BLESS OUR SERVICE MEN AMEN TO ALL OF THEM AMEN
Thing is not taking prisoners mean the enemy won't surrender, if we mutilate corpses so will they, it's prity simple.
Crimes against a persons own soul will eventually consume them. These actions are signs of a country heading for collapse. Real collapse.
This reminds me of a unit in Canada called the Canadian Airborne Regiment. It wasn't so much a special operations force but an elite unit of shock troops. I met several members of this unit well I was living near a Canadian forces base. They were proud of there unit and honoured to be a part of it. But they did admit that sometimes units that create such a mythic reputation can attract soldiers with sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. One of the reasons it was so effective and feared is that its ranks were filled with these types of people and they make very efficient soldiers that have little regard for human life and have virtually no panic in combat.
The riff raff of other units put together. Watch documentary on it
@@bookreaderson name of doc?
@@chiefs260 RUclips canadian airborne 1990s Somalia
@@bookreaderson Thanks!
@@bookreaderson Y'all think that some Canadian white privileged boys are a match for war stricken people at the time that were armed with aks and had fierce loyalty to their clan and had to basically fight everyday for their life?keep dreaming that's the reason they chased out the Americans in 3 days and it took Afghanistan 20 years to do so
When your in a war zone fighting people that want to kill you everyday, you most likely go down some dark parts of the psyche. Its part of the way you cope and survive such a brutal situation. I can't judge them because i wasn't there.
Well put let it go
Saddle was American best friend,because with his help and American arms, he million of Irans, when he was not usable anymore they attacked his country with a lie, weapon of mass destruction, American has weapons of mass destruction, which they used inww2, after provoking the Japanese to attack, to use as an excuse to get into War, which was pay for by American money, allen dullard brothers and all the other brown shirts, billarden was working for the USA,
You don't fight terrorists with kindness and mercy.
You teach men to kill, and you expect what?
My uncle was on a Spec Ops rape squad in Iraq.
James Quinn
Rape squad?
@@jamesquinn5281 I hope you dont know an Eric quinn cause if so you fucked ur uncles reputation bud, either way you fucked his reputation actually and yours for being proud of it. this will be fun kid thanks for the info
@@caposantana8753Eric! Hahaha. Good times bro!!! No he's alive and doing well. When he went Afganistan he was SF and not on a rape squad. He did kill a few people when he was there. Iraq was the country where he made everyone his bitch.
@highmiles 68 Who's back peddling. Rape is a great tool that is used in war. It's very effective and can boost morale. My uncle is a patriot and so am I.
As barbaric as it sounds, I want Seal Team Six to be so FEARED that ANY enemy would flee or surrender to a tree at the thought of ST6 being sent after them. True story.
As stupid as it sounds, a rogue, uncontrollable military unit is no use for the military.
Yeah, fear the U.S. Gov't goddamn, so that they can push their GMO's, "Do what we say or we'll sanction/regime change/bomb you." And people wonder why countries would rather do business with the Chinese?
Really feared ha, Pathetic in 1989 of the invasion in Panama , Panamanian Army Soldiers with little training killed 4 Navy Seals at an airport during the invasion in the first night, and it took 2 years since 2006 for the Iraqi Resisters to kill Navy Seals in Iraq so who's fearsome now.
@@DEMONFOXALEX Nice.
I even noticed in that movie "Lone Survivor" how those guys were all kneeling or sitting upright. If that's how they really operated, then thank god I was trained by Vietnam Vets - Always in the prone position (flat on your stomach whenever possible), behind cover. And I was just a basic infantryman decades ago! You can't reinvent this shit. I don't care how much body armor you're wearing.
The term "war crimes" is used repeatedly throughout this interview by both interviewer and interviewee yet neither specify exactly what war crimes were committed. They don't even define the term. The Geneva Convention on the other hand does quite clearly define war crimes. When viewed by someone sitting in a comfortable and safe video recording studio who has never been in combat are some of the alleged actions repugnant? Yes, but even if the allegations are absolutely true and accurate are they "war crimes"? Not according to the Geneva Convention.
Killing innocent civilians in the act of War, is indeed a War crime...
@@wolf7el356 Civilians always die in war. That's especially true in modern war with bombs and missiles. That reality is recognized within both the Geneva Convention of 1949 and the US Uniform Code of Military Justice.
@@bobhunt4402 Deliberate killing of civilians is not the same thing as collateral damage or blowback. To murder an unarmed civilian that poses no threat to you is a War Crime & there is no justification for it on any level. We're specifically trained to NOT do that, especially a Navy SEAL from DEVGRU.
@@wolf7el356 You mean those unarmed civilians who were just carrying their "family weapons"?
Pretty sure mutilating bodies is not ok
Two quotes come to mind after listening to this report. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Wars are ugly and sometimes you have to go in deep to get to the level of the enemy that you are trying to eliminate. We have units that are capable of doing this and they are extremely effective in what they do. These units operate outside of the public eye and that is where they are supposed to stay. These units sacrifice everything from family life to marriage to spending hardly anytime at home due to constant deployments. The second quote that comes to mind is, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf".
The two people (reporters) in this video are so far out of their element in regards to what they are talking about. They are literally on the outside looking in, however, what they are trying to see is incomprehensible to them.
Good Stuff!!
Well said. It is frustrating to listen to their opinions and judgements when they've no idea what it is like to be in those situations, no idea what it feels like to lose comrades, teammates, squadron mates during incredibly high stress, intense life or death combat operations. I am so incredibly grateful that these guys are still out there on our behalf, ridding the world of those that would do us harm.
Very well put!
@@reggierico why the fuck were you in the first place. Remember you child goes to school and wife is back alone at home, he devil is never satidfied
It is absurd to put these brave and absolutely essential warfighters in the hellish fights they are ordered to be a part of, and then criticize the way they do their duty. This is far from new. British forces in India regularly executed Punjabi fighters with cannon fire to obliterate their remains. In the minds of the Punjabi, this kept them from going to their afterlife. If you're going to combat a culture of death, like extreme Islam, you must be willing to fight on their terms. To not do so is to guarantee defeat. SEALS are extremely well-trained, patriotic warriors, and sitting back, safely behind the wall of protection they help keep maintained, criticizing what they do in the heat of battle, while risking death and worse, is deplorable.
Kevin Gossett; I absolutely agree with you Sir. Please correct me if I'm wrong, first we send these elite dedicated warriors to fight a brutal enemy that torture untill they're satisfied and then behead them while recording it for the whole world to see if they get caught, second, our country keep deploying them to the front lines and even behind enemy lines time after time after time well beyond the "burn out" point and then our country treat them like criminals even to the point of having a hard time getting help from VA after they return. I think that this is similar to the "civilians" asking for a fair trial for the ones in Guantanamo.
Well, there are no trials at all in war, either you live or get killed. Most of these critics so called "geniuses" haven't even been servicemembers let alone been in combat trying to make the correct decisions under fire and in extremelly dangerous enviroments. Maybe we should send "Girl Scouts" with a lot of cookies on deployments against these enemies or the critics can pick up a rifle, munitions and equipment to solve this issues against these unmercifull individuals,(taliban, isil or any other), so they can make the right decisions and do what they think is right. It's very easy to talk of an issue when you haven't experience it.
Civilians may not even care of the phychological problems that these servicemembers bring back with them, problems that cause the fracture of their mental health, family circle and even to the point of committing suicide if they do not receive the appropriate help on time. This servicemembers certainly deserve so much better.
SEMPER FI!!.
Seal Team members get intel from other sources. If they "hit" a caravan in effort it is due to bad intel. Besides the fact that bad guns are imbedded within these groups and "wedding" goers like The Left is imbedded in "news blogs" like this one.
I've never been more proud of our SEALs. Thank you for this.
You are a fucked-up person.
Adam Whittaker This is true. I'm afraid we all are broken.
SEALs fuck up the nation's enemies. This expose compliments their work.
lost_ranger hell yeah bro
yeah , Devon, you are lost just like lost ranger,, both lost.. you have no moral compass. and you are obviously a racist. closet KKK, probably
OBL was canoed, good grief. And he was such a gentle soul.
Then they threw his body in the sea to see if it would float ?. It's all beginning to "make sense" !
His parents said "he was such a nice boy"
One of the most important aspects of that mission was to identify him, so seems like they either did it afterwards, it didnt happen, there was a cover up, or the seals are just as human and sloppy as anybody letting pride and emotions get in the way.
Lmao I am dying laughing that is hillarious.
Lots of keyboard warriors in this section playing COD and watching glamorized Hollywood movies with cool soundtracks ... far from reality, safe in their western homes. War is hell. There’s no glory, no honor, especially these days. Watching someone lose their humanity doesn’t just extend to the enemy that so many here celebrate, it doesn’t end there.
Psychopaths are not awesome, they’re assholes who only care about themselves, that means they couldn’t give a fuck about you and in this field, may well daydream about doing something sadistic to you whilst laughing that you’re defending them, buying their books, kissing their ass on social media. Don’t get me wrong, not all special forces are psychopaths, perhaps a minority as they’re a liability.
Watching someone you love become brutalised, lose their humanity, severe ptsd that they don’t want to confront or momentarily is not fun. This is all for the elites, betrayals and constantly switching sides, proxy wars between world leaders that are quite often in bed with each other. Is it worth it, no.
But please don’t let me interrupt your circle jerk session
Nexus
Be honest now, who is really circle jerking here, you & your guilty conscience maybe?
Shut the fuck up man, if you were dumb enough to go over to killing fields for the rich cause they said some guy in a cave flew planes into New York (they also said they could find the plane blackboxes in the wreckage but they found the highjackers paper passports) but bin Laden didn't shut down NORAD that day, Cheney did that with the help of some other individuals.....
.....might point is if the killing fields were not to your liking, maybe you shouldn't have been there invading other countries to make rich people richer based on lies.
Next time you want to get all holier than thou and bent out of shape remember this:
In just the 2 u.s. - Iraq wars and the sanctions a grand total of approximately 3,000,000 Iraqi people died, about half in the last war
Iraq had been our ally fight Iran for 10 years before the Gulf War, he was told he had u.s. approval to invade Kuwait but George H.W. Bush was playing him. Then his son made up an excuse to go invade their county because they said a man in a cave in Afghanistan flew planes into New York-
3,000,000 Iraqis killed where they lived that had not done anything to us to make rich Americans richer. They stole a whole country and didn't even share the spoils with the army, the boys got sent home missing limbs and having PTSD and we're promptly forgotten.
Do you feel bad about how it all turned out, you should
..... Everyone should.
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!
Julian Assange is a misdirecting of attention psyop.
I look forward to hearing him really talk. He has as much as said flat out that Seth Rich gave wikileaks the emails.
julian assange is an enemy of the united states who’s actions have probably caused the death of countless operatives who were exposed because of his need to play hero. one day america will be able to seek revenge, god bless america
Canoeing = excellent marksmanship under enormous pressure.
Who cares how OBL died? He would give zero fks how you died. If you ask a dead guy some questions nothing but silence...not that I think sociopathic displays are necessary but one must remember the first death at ones hand is the hardest even if it’s a rabbit..but after that it’s not as hard.. war makes monsters it’s if they can come back from it.. my guess is these lib college professors who look down on us knuckle draggers support the Ukraine war but it’s antiseptic to them, where our own guys being thrown into battle after battle r menaces n should b dealt with...
Sorry but we need those kind of people to protect us because our enemies don't follow any rules
Tom Modeski I agree, You don’t ask men to protect you from all enemies, And then question the very men manner in which they protect you. It must be real nice for this guy to sit comfortably knowing that his freedom is being protected by the very people he’s stating are crossing the line of protection.
www.usmcofficer.com/the-basic-school/training-phases/phase-1/law-war-rules-engagement-roe/
Right, because El Quaeda frogmen are swimming across the Atlantic Ocean and forming sleeper cells in Omaha,as part of an international plot to take out Con Agra. We must stay strong, comrade!
sorry, but we dont want to be a terrorist nation like israel
American soldiers should have ethics and rules
xfbth4z you would have to be a sociopath to not have that environment of killing twist your mind up somewhat.....we need soldiers to protect us if they are not killing innocents, which is not OK, who are we to question them?
This dude said “their acts were hidden from the public.”....well I could be wrong but even their Identities are hidden from the public. If their identities are hidden of COURSE their acts will be.
This is a smear campaign by Obama, hillary and Biden because they knew their secrets are coming out and they will hang untill dead.. That's the reason Biden ran for president, God is having fun with him right now untill the revelations come out but make no mistake ,they will face justice . No Mercy to Traitors.
“We don’t know, but we believe” says it all
I think the SEALs should be able to take home the severed body parts of people they kill. So what? Everyone needs a trophy once in awhile to tell everybody the good work they've done.
nonplayerzealot4 ,I 'd go for an earneckless
Like the Somalians did?
Or just take home rifles. Who knows what diseases the dead will have. That's how Ebola Zombies are created.
Maybe they should put a head in a fridge you know like normal ppl.
Isn't that too "pagan" for a "Christian" country.
What is legal isn't necessarily moral and what is moral isn't necessarily legal.
Right and wrong 'actions' can Only be determined by their effects, not by decrees.
For instance, you cannot legalize 'murder' by calling it something else, like 'military actions', then, therefore, apply virtue to the term, but then say that head stomping the 'enemy' is immoral.
It's philosophically inconsistent, through and through, because murder, already, on its own, is a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle.
You cannot, by proclamation, change Natural Law or undo the consequences from its violations.
By ignoring this fact, people will always be subject to manipulation and/or confusion.
Governmental laws, words written down (or in the case at hand, 'rules of engagement' for the people that they 'label' as soldiers), are something akin to magic spells. It's like a magic trick. Yep, our Rulers are like wizards/magicians in the way that they try to change/manipuate reality.
And unfortunately, it feels like we are being lead away from those bloody, hard-won principles that mankind has discovered over the millenia.
Btw, it has never been clear to me by which principles Democracy Now is operating from.
Then why are there war crimes?
To make you think war itself is not a crime?
@@Bazompora
Indeed, the neo cons went into Syria anyway, despite a No vote from Congress. Such was their humanity and concern for the "plight" of the Syrians. - and helped ISIS etc Al murder unthinkable numbers of them.
Syria survived with help from Russia and Iran. Libya not so fortunate. See "Benghazi Whistleblowers. The Story behind the cover up."
So to sum up your nonsense word salad,
Would you agree that what you mean to say is that when it comes to war, Anything goes.
As the nature of war is savage so those who become embroiled in it must become total savages otherwise they may be called hypocrites.
If so I think You may have been reading your Philosophy and Ethics books upside-down or something.
Your Simplistic dogma although wrapped in big words is akin to saying we evolved from monkeys so lets not pretend to be any better than a Chimps.
A standard you seem to be living up to, If your comment is anything to go by.
What's the problem of torturing terrorists that tortured and killed lots of people??!!!
Thank god for men like that to sacrifice for our safety.
AMEN AMEN AMEN TO RANDY GATES GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES AMEN AMEN AMEN
US Military doing what they've always done here and abroad.
charging Navy Seals with crimes is like giving tickets out at Indy 500
It was a war. It's difficult to judge those guys by people who have never been in the combat situation.
Thanks for these warriors who are heroes
most of them are in hell any way extortion 17
RIGHT YOU ARE JOHNNY AND THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH AMEN
I Love It When People Who Have Never Been In Combat Or Shot At, Place Judgement On Those That Have!! Sleep Well Under The Blanket Of Freedom That These Warriors Provide!!
Then when these "warriors" come home, they so happy in their "blanket of freedom" they're topping themselves at an average rate of 22/day ??
Beheading and skinning people didnt help protect anyone's freedom
Mathew Cole is a communist.
I was thinking this exact thing. I don’t support unethical treatment of civilians but it is completely laughable how some desk jocky can ridicule these elite operators. ESPECIALLY regarding excessive force against the opposition. I get the complaints, but you don’t understand - they are literally in hell on earth
ROYS TOYS I HOPE YOU GET RICHER GOD BLESS THE NAVY SEALS AND ROYS TOYS ALSO AMEN
1 video and now everybody is an expert on Devgru
One video with a whole lot of interesting information. The Navy better get its shit together. The American people are watching, and we know a Nazi when we see one.
@@MiClLC what does the navy have to do with Nazism
@@MiClLC you wouldn't be here if it was not for them
we should not forget the scene where a soldier pissed on a dead Afghan body
Or the scenes where US military personnel's bodies were lit on fire by Al Qaeda.
The jihadists would do worse to our children. War is chaos. People do horrible things doing war. Trust me, when someone shoots at you, you don’t stay philosophic. You get a rage that can’t be described. That is why war is tragic. People become prehistoric when in battle
Taliban fighter*
Killing people isn't a "job", even though they pay you for it.
@nick sweeney killing people because someone else told you they were bad ? really , this is a profession . are you real ? so if you were to kill another , who had raped or killed one of your "family" . and do it in your own way . you are a murderer and you will go to jail . that's because we have rules and laws in place that will deal with the perps of the crime against yours . there are rules of engagement in war that need to be adhered to also , otherwise all sorts of atrocities will be carried out . but unusually its the allies that carry out most atrocities as we are now discovering . how do you make the distinction betwixt war crimes and acts of valour ? is it based on who carries the acts out ? it would seem so . war crime if a foreigner does it , act of valour if its an ally .
I don't think we are competing with Divinity Schools for Special Unit Operators.
That someone re-killed a dead guy doesn't cause me to much concern.
That's just as well, eh ?
Then 22/day of these "heroes" come home and kill themselves because US is such a great place to be.
@@gerardvaughan1847 Name one SEAL Team 6 operator that's ever come home and killed himself. Just one. Then shut the fuck up because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Theirs no such thing as clean wars
Huevo Duro702 Yeah I guess killing civilians, beheading and mutilation is all part of War. Interestingly these are all things ISIS does, I wonder what's the difference between America and all the other terrorists.
i guess just religion and language
Hans Blitz I'm actually atheist dude
Your assumptions are based on nothing you assume I'm Muslim based on my name. But I'm actually atheist, religion is for dimwitted fools like yourself. I notice you lack the mental capacity to have a civil conversation without hurling bigoted insults. Also you should know ISIS kills more Muslims than Christians, so by their actions alone they don't kill people for being merely Christians. Anyone who doesn't buy in to their nonsense is fodder for their guns. You said they only behead dead people as if that's some how better. Can you imagine it. Someone all ready dead and another person trying to cut off their head. That's even more psychotic. You can justify the deaths of civilians how you want, and regurgitate nonsense fed to your kind by your corporate controlled media. But the reality is America is no better than those it fights, in many cases worse. But the reality is stupid Americans go and fight wars that have notjing to do with terrorism or soreading democracy. But has everything to corporate interest. Soldiers go to war with dollar signs on their back dying for oil and 9ther resources.
Hans Blitz then you could say the same things with Christians!
kill the enemy means kill the enemy . it is not child's play or for the weak at heart.
sure kill the enemy not innocent civilians for sport that just makes you a sociopath
What drives this little weak lamb chop to question and try to expose the Shepards that protect him and his fellow sheep family?
Did he just say battle field ethics?
Did he do his service? Foreign or at home?
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Don't try to reason with ANY of these sheep... Drop them behind enemy lines for an hour, taking fire and mortars from some indistinct rooftop somewhere, and watch them BEG THE U.S. to issue an airstrike to save them, regardless of the "collateral damage"...
You cant be on your first deployment if you are in seal team six. You need a lot of military experiance to be in seal team six.
Wrong very wrong
@@kevinm4209 ye ur right. seal team six is know for recruiting fat drunk 80 yo bums from the streets....
to be fair he did say this was shortly after the war in Afghanistan started
Kevin M Kevin you’re talking out of your ass you fruit cake. Go play call of duty.
@@kevinm4209 To get into Dev, you must have a few years under your belt before going in. You can't apply off the street or be assigned to JSOC right after completing your training. This was the a key principle of the unit from its conception. Go watch CNN and eat a bat
Why is it that anyone who was never in the military and reports for a living seems to think they have the moral high ground on any topic of warfare? Hats off to all the brave men and women who put their asses on the line for all of us. I served with many in the military who did the same thing and would do it again if they had to. The only thing the third world respects is violence. If you dish it out, then don't snivel when it comes back and bites you in the ass.
They killed innocent people for fun. That’s still murder, they chose to serve and the people that did this shouldn’t be justified just because they got what they signed up for. I’m sorry but if you’re in a third world country like this and start killing innocent children, I draw the line and think you’re a human piece of shit. I’m sure the majority of people who served wouldn’t do this and think these actions are just as egregious as they are, but the ones that committed these actual war crimes should be shot.
100% chance you have not served
@@rron5641 In 1970 during the Viet Nam war, I was drafted into the United States Army and served with the paratroopers in the 82nd Airborne Division. After that I joined the United States Marine Corps from 1972 to 1976. I am no hero but served with hundreds of hero's. I am proud of my service to my country and if my country asked me to serve today I would do so without hesitation. You see, I am a patriot. I believe in my country and believe all of us have a obligation and a duty to serve if our country ask that of us. I may disagree with the political opinions of others but I will serve my country to defend anyone right to voice their opinion no matter how repugnant I think it is. That is what makes the United States the greatest country in the world and I would defy anyone to find any other place where you can find the opportunities and freedoms that one can find here. Peace.
@@ne1sail tell them AA all american
@@combatbattalion6 Airborne, all the way!
In vietnam.....they put skulls of the vc on their tanks...war is hell...and not for the weak hearted...to second guess them after the fact is wrong...attrocities were made on both sides of every war since the beginning of time...If you train someone to kill without prejudice...dont be offended if they dont do it politically correct.
Even God said
Eye for and eye.
Stop crying let them do their job
Never realised it was a wedding party that attacked US on 9/11. They keep changing their story !
Still, at least we got the Poppy fields back in production. The damn Taliban had decimated the industry, and Pig Pharma was not a happy Easter Bunny !
That's against the ganevaconvech conventi n
God did say "an eye for an eye" and he changed his mind later and said "turn the other cheek". Our boys can eliminate the bad guys without behaving like them...point of honor.
"Search you feelings. You know it to be true." -Darth Vader
"You want.....this? Don't you?"
(Gently caresses HK long gun with suppressor)
It’s none of our business. If you care so much.. go over there and see what they would do to an American. You think this stuff is bad?
The war started after the terrorists trained by the US military training camps in Afghanistan guarded by US military soldiers attacked the USA. They were all Saudi citizens who attacked the USA on 911 and no Afghan people were involved in the camps or attacks on the USA. This was established by CNN and federal prosecutors and children who spoke to the soldiers guarding the training camps were arrested as persons of interest but held without hearing or trial in Guantanamo Bay Cuba and federal prosecutors were fired by the White House attorney Brett Cavanaug citing executive privilege. Afghanistan people were not involved attacking the USA at all. Taliban ISIS and Al Queda are Saudi terrorists trained by the US military training camps in Afghanistan. Afghan people were not involved in attacks on the USA at all.
seal team 6 more like cia hit squad extrodinaires
Caving the dead guys head in creating a brutal scene is otherwise known as psychological warfare. Sorta like flying airplanes into buildings forcing people to jump a thousand feet to certain death.
Right on!
When your enemy is savage and show's no mercy..you must fight them with the same viciousness.
Trust me- when things get bad real bad u want serial killers to make " IT" all stop. War is so gruesome. Where's my meds
The whole problem with America is lack of Ethics
Ruby Ridge
Uss Liberty
Waco
All would have been handled different if the government had Ethics in mind
US Govt is "advised" by the fake Jew Satanyahoo, The CFR, and Congress controlled by a bunch of Zionists known as AIPAC. That is why. If it don't fit his agenda, ain't gonna happen.
Unrelated ta this video.
Assassinations that took place at ruby ridge were part of agenda 3-3.6
This video is in regards to agenda 12.8-13.3
@@jimmyhunt9081
They were murders, not "assassinations"
So, they accidentally bombed a wedding convoy and shot dead terrorists in the face? What does anyone expect? Did anyone think what these guys do has zero collateral damage and zero gratuitous violence? Stop being so naive.
How do you control a group of hardened killers? I mean really, who is going to supervise them out in the field? Certainly not keyboard crybabies, or some pampered high ranking officer.
The Seals don't HAVE pampered officer's, only honored and respected operators who get promoted 4 living thru the hardened killing!!
I'm more upset that they cowered to the mandates
"SEAL Team 6"??? Why can't these people, who apparently know everything, even get the name of the unit correct?
Most military units are run by the enlisted soldiers. Officers provide guidance and direction, but the enlisted personnel make it happen. Sergeants and Petty Officers make every unit work. Officers get involved when needed, but normally in a limited fashion.
Honestly what did you expect? Not saying it's right but I didn't expect anything less of self proclaimed badass killers
I'm surprises they don't so worse stuff. Imagine what Russian Spetznaz does in Syria, oh damn.. who knows.
Yea they just don’t cry about it.
Exactly. They are trained to kill expertly. The military should deprogram these guys when releasing them back into society. We shouldn't be there but that's another topic altogether.
AmmO Mug they shouldnt be programming people to kill people that a bunch of rapists and thieving politicians deem "bad guys"
No sh*t right, it's the Navy Seals... not the girl scout's
I don't care, when this unit is.called in you"re going to receive the best of the worse in treatment. Sometimes mistakes are made it battle and those who cross the line should be dealt with internally regardless of rank.
The interviewer is terrible, but Cole clearly knows his stuff and isn’t some knee-jerk anti-military guy. He seems to care most about the truth.
Nearly three thousand comments in this thread, but I'm adding mine anyway.
Do I favor more wars? No. Is it acceptable behavior to mutilate the enemy post-mortem? No. There are laws governing our behavior even in wartime and combat. There are also protocols and localized rules governing our professionalism. Dead is dead. Even if we lost a teammate and the enemy did shitty things to his corpse, retaliation is accepted and expected, mutilating the dead is not. We become no better than the enemy we seek to destroy and defeat by succumbing to the impulsiveness that creeps into the mind after suffering the loss of a close friend, brother and team member.
It would be best if politicians and their global banking controllers, those inbred psychopathic bloodline banking families, who always benefit from (financing BOTH sides plus) all the killings, bombings, terror attacks and worse, didn't do everything they can to start wars and send our people off to kill and be killed. But the masses haven't yet figured that out. Until then, until ALL people wake up and start working together to make the politicians do what the voters want AND people can resolve their artificially created differences (stop buying the media lies) to become united to a common goal of ending their grip on everything, every system, including education, entertainment, banking, media, medicine, industry of every kind, food production, access to information, the intelligence community, communications, the military, organized religion, and so many more systemic and global sociological controls there will be no peace and no end to wars on this planet. There are but a few families with access to limitless wealth that have been behind every war and genocide for centuries. Incredulity and disbelief by the average person to see that their control is in fact very real are two of the best tools they depend on to retain their global power.
Try reading. The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy by Jim Marrs, any of his books actually, and books written by Fritz Springmeier, or Johnny Cirucci for much more about the real rulers of this world.
Also 'JFK to 911 - a rich man's trick''
Hatred has no place anywhere... ever. An exceptional soldier needs a sense of purpose, physical conditioning, a quick and creative intellect, a heart that wills him beyond the limitations faced in conflict and the knowledge that truth and justice is on his side.
Apparently a lot of so called patriots didn't like to hear the reality of war and atrocities attempted by US troops and gave thumbs down.
God bless NAVY SEAL’S
The ignorance of this accounting and responses are amazing.
You'll never know what it takes and costs both physically and mentally to conduct these missions. Revenge is human nature. War is brutal and ugly and is won by men willing to do what others won't.
Canoeing, is a slang term for effectively killing your enemy. I've never seen someone killed nicely or beautifully....
Ro Ro Schools they're everywhere man
If war is brutal, why start it? You can’t have it both ways. You can’t start wars and complain they are brutal.
I agree lolan, so many of these third world countries harbor these animals, and when a high ranking priority target of these animals pop up, no better than a seal team moving in and taking these targets out and hopefully in a brutal way to give their victims some kind of justice
What a ridiculous reply. And you think that the amount that these men have gone through justifies them to mutilate civilians - innocent people who lost their lives because we were to impatient to to verify a target? You me sick.
Because dying on your feet is better than living on your knees... I'd rather die a free man than go on living as a slave... We didn't... Remember 9/11?
There are no rules in real war
Yes there is. www.usmcofficer.com/the-basic-school/training-phases/phase-1/law-war-rules-engagement-roe/
There s always rules. An army without discipline is a rabble
You can have honour or you can be trash, that is the difference.
Mark Chambers What war? Ooooohhh you mean Middle East. Well sorry pal but that's not a war, it's a murdering feast of million civilians. When US gets in war and they starting to lose millions citizens then we can call it war, but when US invades countries and killing millions of people that's not war.
shark wolf Well said. Many of the other morons commenting seem to have missed the fact they were all Civilians shot up and bombed in the first instance. I can understand a Soldier losing it with an enemy if he has just lost friends to the enemy. You don't though take it out on Civilians that have been killed. Not on. That Officer needed to be removed from command. He either was mentally not suited to start with or had become mentally deranged. There is no place for Officers of that type. They belong out of the unit under treatment.
These men are heroes who put their lives at risk hundreds of times during a combat deployment, and they should be given great latitude to prosecute our enemies. War is hell and terrible things happen in combat, including civilian deaths. If these jihadis and their families don't like the treatment they get, they shouldn't crave war.
RIGHT YOU ARE RON THIS GUY MATT COLE SHOULD SHUT UP AND GET ANOTHER JOB
You belong to a physic institution you depraved shit
As a Viet Nam Combat Veteran no one is a hero.
Your either a victim of the unknown when you got
drafted or enlisted.
No lost soul expects to become a butcher.
Serving in the Military doesn't make America
any safer & in most cases doesn't help your
life experiences which will come later in life.
your argument could easily apply the other way around lmao "If these americans don't like the things terrorists do they shouldn't fuck with other countries"
@@baileyayyy5085why are you sympathizing with Zarqawi?
12.35. The saddest thing is that there are Americans that will defend and praise this.
Little do they realize, that by doing so, they're no better than terrorists.
Trump and many of his supporters will love the idea of this sick behavior.
Nancy Mesek you understand Obama was in charge during this right?
As were W and Cheney.
Trump will stop these fake wars so relax
What a dummy you are. Trump is fully part of the Globalist Zionist Establishment. Trump even has 2 of his kids married to nasty Jews.
Jews are people who follow the traditional beliefs and holidays of Judaism. Just like we follow Christian holidays like Easter and Christmas. Mostly ordinary people with no special status in society.
I love how everyone commenting on this channel honestly thinks a RUclips channel is going to be able to uncover anything on the most secretive and most classified military unit in the world.
Seal team 6 is not the most secretive unit in the world. Delta Force is more secretive, JTF2 in canada is more secretive even the priminister of canada doesn't know everything including their deployments. Many countries have more secretive tier 1 than seal team 6. CIA has its own special forces who are more secretive.
Who thought otherwise? You can clearly see the human garbage in the comments.
Maximum shock, Maximum violence that’s what wins battles.
I'd rather you just thanked them for your Freedom and Safety than whine about the manor in which they protect it !
i believe it happened, and its disgusting and should be prevented, but given what happened to their soldier on essentially the first day, can you really blame them? what kind of trauma gets exchanged on the battlefield is disgusting. I dont really blame the soldiers, i blame the people who sent them there.
Sailors
All they did was take out the *GARBAGE*
Damn straight.
I know flying airplanes into tall buildings doesn't sound so bad, but 100s of people being cooked in gas is pretty bad.
We're in a war where no prisoners are taken. So I don't have a problem with it.
Also this reporter doesn't realize Spec Ops guys train to shoot in the head. You shoot someone in the chest they can still press a button and detonate their explosive vest. Shooting them in the head turns their lights off immediately. It's a very good skill to have if you're going up against terrorists who use suicide vests. I've seen a lot of people shot in the head and have never seen a "V" that leaves the brain exposed as he describes. The brain has the consistency of pudding. If you shoot someone in the head the skull bones shatter and the pressure of a bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound causes the top of the head to blow apart and the brain always splatters everywhere. Sometimes it completely removes the brain from where it sits leaving an empty bowl. That might be what they are describing as a canoe. Either way, OBL got what was coming to him. So have many others you will never hear about. As far as the wedding party. It was a mistake and war is full of mistakes. The head stomping was rage coming out due to the loss of his team member. If you lived in the wild west and someone chopped up your little brother or mom to pieces, you just might stomp that bad guys head a few times yourself. It's something many regular folks have in them. Not just SEALs.
People don't switch off when you shoot them in the head, you have to shoot them in the brain stem, which is a small target, and in a confrontation pretty mobile. You shoot people in the head if you think they have armor, or if it just happens to be the first thing you lock onto.
The US works in the world with partners, and based on a population the majority of whom don't share your values. That's a problem whether you see it as weakness or whatever doesn't matter. Shooting one old dude doesn't win wars. You can kill tons of people and just make it worse. That is how this mess started, though radicalization of Egyptian prisoners, and the transfer of them to the war in Afghanistan to toss out the Russians.
I guess you don't follow the prisoner swaps ... I've poked around at brain tissue and you just don't what you're talking about, also nobody is trained to shoot for the head, they're trained to win. It's not a one sentence training, it's weeks and months of instruction and practice.
33 years in law enforcement, many of those as a homicide detective and 14 shootings on my record. So I do know what I'm talking about. Also I trained every month to put two rounds in the chest and one in the head. I could draw my pistol and put a round on a 8 inch steel plate up to 100 feet away faster than anyone in my last unit before I retired. Unlike some cops, I took my shooting abilities seriously. Not some gun fanatic, I just figured if the taxpayers were gonna pay me to protect them, I was going to give them the best.
Craig Thomas Wow another loser pretending to know what they are talking about!! You are a bootlicking coward!!
mikemarleigh123 slap yourself simple bitch.... add to the convo or fuck off
Elite combatants will be in a extreme class, but war can do this to anyone
Gary Weaver Shut the fuck up. Why don't I see other militaries doing this?
Gary Weaver then why did all of them not commit these same war crimes? If it happens to every soldier how come not all the team did these things
Sorry for the upset but I am Indian and once a
Pakistani jihadis killed our army captain and beheaded him.. our Naga regiment guys the next day killed the entire jihadi squad exept 2 .. and our Naga brothers ate those 2 ... Distributed the remains ... It's eye for an eye it's war..
WAR is WAR, you have to give the enemy no quarter. Show them the Black Flag Sir.
Sometimes you have to send evil to kill evil. These Seal teams are not evil, but the things they come up against are absolutely evil. When you see kids' heads on pikes as you are walking through a village in Afghanistan, you see what you are dealing with. I saw a civilian get killed, but he was raping a 3-year-old child. The things we came across, you couldn't even imagine in your wildest nightmares. I'm not a Seal, but I was right there.
Do you seriously think this guy has an inside track to the most secretive military group on the planet?
Who the sas
With all these books and movies, seals are far from the most secretive militairy group on the planet these days..
alexander van der burg This is what is allowed to be released. You don't here about delta force and real tier one operators.
If, according to you, SEAL Team 6 doesn't consist of 'real tier one operators' I don't know what group does consist of them (besides Delta Force). Also, if that is what is 'allowed to be released' I don't think that SEAL Team 6 is the most secretive militairy group on the planet anymore, like I already said. Information like this that just gets out in the open would be highly classified in my country, especially when it's about our special forces. I think Seals aren't the silent professionals they used to be, or they should be. last couple of years there have been so many that opened up and wrote a book or made a movie I can't take them as seriously anymore compared to other groups who actually value their integrity more.
We don't know. In those circles people don't snitch on eachother so we'll probably never know
Hoyah Devgru, job well done.
Surfing SpiritBear "Hooyah"
you fight fire with fire,they dont care why should we,somebody should shut this guy up
Fucking heroes!!!!
Contact one of the Devgru guys...tell that to them eyeball to eyeball...then post a follow-up comment letting us know how that worked out for you.
JUST LIKE WHAT THEY DID TO THE TEMPLARS OF THE CRUSADES.
In war, only the most vicious, savage, and strategic win. Folks, we need to study why war works the way it works.
The peace we maintain is not the same around the world. Our laws were written in the blood of our enemies. Try fighting a war against people who practice the same and/or worse with "civili-ty".
Surely hundreds of the same wars fought by our SEAL T6 were won with "civili-ty".
Fucking enlighten me.