New Intercept Exposé Uncovers SEAL Team 6's Ghastly Trail of Atrocities, Mutilations, Killings
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- democracynow.org - A stunning new exposé published today in The Intercept about the elite military unit SEAL Team 6 reveals a darker side of the group best known for killing Osama bin Laden. National security reporter Matthew Cole spent two years investigating accounts of ghastly atrocities committed by members of the unit, including mutilating corpses, skinnings and attempted beheadings. According to sources, senior command staff were aware of the misconduct but did little to stop it-and often helped to cover it up.
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“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”,
George Orwell “1984”.
"anyone can make up any bullshit on the internet and atribute it to anyone as a quote because people are dumbfucks who don't read" - Ghandi
im guessing russian soldiers mutilating ukranians keeps us safe?
warcrimes are not justified you fucking idiot
Perfect example of disinformation. Orwell never said or wrote that apparently. (He wrote something thematically similar in “Kim”.
Richard Grenier, is the author of the quote?).
@@duellingscarguevara bingo
Only reason this concerns me is for the mental health of our team guys. I think doing this stuff can have bad lasting damage while it might be therapeutic at the moment. Aside from that, I understand the oversight needed and to reign guys back in, but when you create the most deadly/effective human hunters this world has ever seen, don’t get upset with them when they aren’t as clean as the fairytale you drew up in your mind. Personally, I don’t think there is anything wrong with smashing the enemy skull into the ground, the problem was that they were civilians. They didn’t know that though when their leash was taken off. When you let the dogs off the leash, shit is going to get brutal.
You are absolutely correct. I wonder how many of these people think their pit bull is cute (Or any dog for that matter.), but would be mortified and disgusted with what Spot turned into, the day he had to protect them from an attacker.
Correct. See On Combat by LTC Dave Grosman; US Army PhD ret. SOF units deal with a lot. Some come unglued or begin to unravel. The DoD & VA do little to 0 for these classified service members.
Perfect!
If you read the book it's actually not anti seal it's a anti bad seal
Seals are inherently douchebags. and shit to work with.
Marines will always be there to save them from their stupid decisions
This is another perfect example of a civilian sticking his nose in military actions. You're not a soldier and you're not a veteran of war.
Exactly. This tool just wants to feel important
I was a Soldier, served 14 years in US Army 3rd SFG 2nd Battalion Charlie Company ODA 3324 & I agree with the civilian & reporter 100%. You guys worship Navy SEALS as though they are Deities & infallible, when it's the exact opposite. We are trained as Soldiers to conduct ourselves with honor, dignity, respect & self-control on the battle field & committing War crimes is NOT something that should ever be looked beyond, excused or justified. WE KNOW BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO KNOW BETTER. There is no excuse under the Sun to act in conduct that is unbecoming of an Officer. Wearing that great uniform does not give us a license to Kill at will & break the law, both Foreign & Domestic. No one is above being reprimanded for their actions & being a War Criminal is a disgrace to the Flag & Armed Services. We take an Oath, we aren't supposed to break that Oath by being barbarians & savages.
So only the military should poke their nose in the military? Ah, what could possibly go wrong with that scenario
@@wolf7el356doesn’t mean the operators deserve prison time for terrorizing the enemy. They’re human. Here’s how to fix this issue. Give them time off or even outright medically retire them with full pension. This isn’t about treatment for the enemy, this is about noticing how overused JSOC operators are. If they’re brutally dismembering ISIS fighters, then that’s a sign that the operator needs help. Not punishment.
@Atheismwillrise Yes it does. We have a strict set of laws & guidelines that we our bound by under Federal & International law. If you break them, you will suffer the consequences. We are taught from Bootcamp to be accountable for our actions & there is no excuse for being a War criminal. What separates us from them is that we follow the rule of law & do not act like barbarians, we hold ourselves to a higher standard than any other collective fighting force on the planet & that's what defines us as exceptional. A JSOC operator knows better than ANYBODY that he's not supposed to do those things, because in order to even get inducted into JSOC there's a long series of assessment & selection processes that happen for all JSOC units in which you are mentally evaluated on how you handle a multitude of different scenarios. They specifically quiz you both in the classroom & in live simulation in the field in mock-ups to see how you're going to act in highly stressful environments. You are briefed before EVERY mission about what you can & cannot do in terms of rules of engagement & specifically how to handle any captured detainees & enemy combatants. What these SEALS were doing was not "terrorizing the enemy", what they were doing is blatantly disregarding their orders & acting in accordance to their own ego & putting themselves above their unit, their command & the mission itself. There's a reason why Court Marshall exist, there's a reason why every Special Operator doesn't act this way, because they all know it's wrong.
This is deceptive journalism. "Canoeing" targets isn't an atrocity or war crime. It was an unintended consequence. All US special operations units within JSOC were made to change their tactics to shooting enemies in their faces instead of aiming center-mass (torso) after insurgents were still able to kill Army & Marines infantrymen through touching together wires that ran down their arms to their wrists to detonate their suicide vests in their last seconds alive. The only effective way to prevent it was by shooting them in their mustache areas because the bullet pierces through to the brain stem at the base of the cranium to instantly sever all communication between the body and the nervous system. The caliber of ammunition they use is so powerful that it consequently splits their heads open in a V shape. It isn't done to mutilate the enemy. It's just a side effect of the adjustments that were made by US forces due to conditions on the ground
From the limited research I've done with zero security clearance your information which seems legit is very important to let civilians like me understand what really goes on
Never heard that, thanks for the info. Also no mention in video of the fact that extremists also target the face because of American forces body armor.
Just wondering, has any of Matthew Cole's evidence or accusations been authenticated? There was an awful lot of "I believe","I was told", and "alleged" used here.
Trouble accepting the truth huh lmfao
@@roze5003 the truth is beautiful😉
@@roze5003 no but in the real world you need some proof and credibility
@@roze5003 truth is someone who was and is not even at any of these reports is now considered to be truth and fact to you? Well in that case, If you give me a million dollars I will in return be able to give you 3 million back. Lol
@@rp4712 lmao keep bootlicking. Are you really surprised this happens
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
- George Orwell
Orwell never originated that line, numbnut. He was quoting Kipling in an old article. U.S. Army propaganda attributed that line to Orwell. Think about it: You know, the guy who gave us "1984" and "Animal Farm"? He's probably rolling in his grave over that one.
@@rjs19862011 We'd probably all sleep even more soundly if the U.S. would just quit pissing off the rest of the World, and spend it's money on its citizens, rather than aircraft carriers.
@@rjs19862011 Is it really that socialist if people can have a chronic medical condition without going into bankruptcy? No other industrialized country treats its citizens like that. The U.S. spends 50% of every tax dollar on its military and military entitlements.
@@rjs19862011 "That is neither here nor there"? What is that supposed to mean? That you lost the argument?
@@rjs19862011 Do you even know what communism is? Neither here nor there, numbnut.
ppl should not be surprised. cmon, what do ppl think killing does to your brain? to your sense of self? how you view others?
Steny Ethan Mathews killing in and of its self is only so traumatic to the modern psyche because we are disconnected from death. Things like meat at super markets are the cause. Demonizing people is more damaging than killing is. Killing can be appropriate, but demonization is not.
exactly
+jsizzlesaurusrex Thats also true
Steny Ethan Mathews I gardened for a living for a decade. Not anymore... but I still garden from time to time out of habit, quietly weeding peoples planter boxes. I’ve never killed for a living, so I don’t need help to stop because it doesn’t hurt anyone when I do my old job out of habit when no one is around.
There is almost zero of this that comes as any surprise to me and further having served myself and knowing the level of dedication our military members carry every day nor do I blame them for being that desensitized to foreign combatants or their humanity. War is hell.
If you have ever heard the screams of what these people do to children as young as three, IS, AQ, TLB, you’d support the hell out of the Seals for matching the violence or going beyond it. I’m an Iraqi now American, I hope the seals never stop and give absolute hell to these Islamic extremist.
I respect it
When you ask others to kill for you, you have to accept some of the guilt for their actions regardless of whether or not you understood what you were asking in the first place. Politicians start wars. This doesn't absolve all sins committed by soldiers, but it mitigates them. Lynndie England got crucified in the press, got court marshaled IIRC, The person who created the situation at Abu Ghraib has taken up painting and is living a comfortable retirement, never have been held accountable for anything.
I have and never felt guild for the enemy that is eliminated by our Military !
@@stephenpoe2037 10s of thousands of those "enemies" in Iraq were innocent civilians who are just like you and your neighbors and family. Wars burn children to death. You should feel guilty for that.
@@stephenpoe2037 your are a physical. You have wife children too……..
@@yossarincatch6051 . How many was he responsible for killing ? And thin Feed his Body to the Pigs !
These type of things happen all the time in warfare. My father fought in the Pacific during WWII and using dead Japanese soldiers for target practice was common. Collecting teeth was common. Collecting sculls, bones, and other body parts was common. War turns us all into animals.
can't imagine what they had to endure.
Anton Leimbach I wouldn’t compare the wars initiated by America in the Middle East over the last 17 years to WW2. I too had family in the Pacific theatre and suffered at Japanese hands. The prolonged horrific conditions both sides went through battling the islands in the last 10 months were beyond anything, anyone cam imagine today.
Some people just like blood lust. Some have their minds turned in overwhelming situations like WW2.
Read the book "With the old Bread" by E.B. Sledge. It will give you a good idea.
WW2 was before rules of engagement and war crimes in general. Genocide was an expostfacto bullshit dog and pony show
Still have a jar full of ears from my uncle's time in the Pacific.
He got paid for every one he had from his father.
Retribution from pearl harbor
If hell is on Earth.....they've seen it
Shout out to the warfighters
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom and protection that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it" - Colonel Jessup USMC (A Few Good Men)
The fact that it's a quote from a movie does nothing to lessen its truth and accuracy.
Jessup was a psychopath and the entire plot of that movie revolved around him murdering a marine under his command and instructing his subordinates to cover it up. The only truthful and accurate thing about that quote is that it shines light on the deranged entitlement that often takes root in military communities.
I have zero problem with this. our enemies have done worse but the media never brings it up.
@@frankrizzo454 A little confused on what you don't have a problem with. Any American serviceman should take pause at the notion of a marine colonel ordering the murder and coverup of a private under his command and using the "civies don't understand the pressure i'm under" defense. We're not talking about whether or not enhanced interrogation is acceptable. We're not even talking about America's enemies. We're talking about marines being fuckboys and acting like they can get away with it.
Can you tell me who these enemies are ?
@@frankrizzo454 you guys are the enemies of every creature on earth.
I wish these guys were here to defend these allegations. Unfortunately most of them died on" extortion 17" that's the story that needs investigating.
There were 18 Seals out of 1,300 and thats an estimate so probably not.
“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
Sir Winston Churchill.
In reality it’s Americas destruction of those peoples countries that creates the “terrorists” that they then use as reasons to destroy again. Your country would actually be far more safe if it stopped occupying and committing war crimes in other countries.
@@forverusfull Churchill was a Rothschild's like Adolf Hitler was also, but those men who just wanted to be left alone do exist.
Ah yes, I'm so safe in my bed because some psychopaths and sadists in Seal team 6 skinned and mutilated corpses in Iraq and Afghanistan. Fucking hell, this is the kind of shit that radicalised people to want to kill Americans
Reckon any of them fellas like hazelnut in their coffee?
@@orsotheshadowqueer7424 probably
You don't fight terrorists with kindness and mercy.
This reminds me of a unit in Canada called the Canadian Airborne Regiment. It wasn't so much a special operations force but an elite unit of shock troops. I met several members of this unit well I was living near a Canadian forces base. They were proud of there unit and honoured to be a part of it. But they did admit that sometimes units that create such a mythic reputation can attract soldiers with sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. One of the reasons it was so effective and feared is that its ranks were filled with these types of people and they make very efficient soldiers that have little regard for human life and have virtually no panic in combat.
The riff raff of other units put together. Watch documentary on it
@@bookreaderson name of doc?
@@chiefs260 RUclips canadian airborne 1990s Somalia
@@bookreaderson Thanks!
@@bookreaderson Y'all think that some Canadian white privileged boys are a match for war stricken people at the time that were armed with aks and had fierce loyalty to their clan and had to basically fight everyday for their life?keep dreaming that's the reason they chased out the Americans in 3 days and it took Afghanistan 20 years to do so
The conservative apologists apparently need a safe space. No one is saying that all of the SEALS are bad guys, that's not the point. We never should've been in Afghanistan in the first place. The Afghanis had nothing to do with 9/11. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. We wasted thousands of American lives, killed countless Afghanis, and wasted trillions of dollars that could've been spent on our veterans here at home. We've been there for nearly two decades and haven't made the situation any better. And in the process, yes, we've committed heinous acts, war crimes, and destroyed entire families. If these words make you angry, GOOD. You should be angry at US foreign policy and the military industrial complex that sends our brave soldiers to fight in stupid, pointless wars that DO NOT make us any safer. We are only creating more enemies with these foolish wars.
Canoeing = excellent marksmanship under enormous pressure.
Who cares how OBL died? He would give zero fks how you died. If you ask a dead guy some questions nothing but silence...not that I think sociopathic displays are necessary but one must remember the first death at ones hand is the hardest even if it’s a rabbit..but after that it’s not as hard.. war makes monsters it’s if they can come back from it.. my guess is these lib college professors who look down on us knuckle draggers support the Ukraine war but it’s antiseptic to them, where our own guys being thrown into battle after battle r menaces n should b dealt with...
"If thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee" - Nietzsche "Beyond Good and Evil"
@cicatriz like Trump!
@cicatriz total mischaracterization of nietzsche. Yikes.
@cicatriz lol of course you believe that.
I understood the profundity of this statement, after I stared into a public 💩🕳in a Mumbai Train station, just a few years ago.
Layer upon layer of human feces, animated by colonies of flies, mixed with the stench of dried urine.🤭🤢🤮😷 💦💩
I couldn't eat any food for days.
prosecuting seal team 6 for violence is like giving Indy 500 race car drivers speeding tickets after the race
As the spouse of 2 Vietnam combat vets I can attest to the “fog of war” and wanting revenge. When you see fellow soldiers tortured, mutilated, eviscerated, castrated while alive then put on display how do you think you would react?😡
I wouldn't skin them, that's how I would react
Are you justifying their actions? Are you saying that team members dying was not expected when you walk into someones country/house with guns in your hands and kill their family?
@@gggromay it's insane how everyone defends this shit. They literally carried hatchets into combat specifically to decapitate corpses. What the absolute fuck
No one is excusing the behavior but that behavior didn't happen in isolation. The folks that committed these actions didn't just wake up one day and say to themselves "let's go behead and skin some individuals". The point of all this is that if you repeatedly expose individuals to atrocious acts of violence they become desensitized to it. This happens in the military, to police, correction officers, etc. What we should be trying to do is come of with strategies to prevent these things from happening. Part of that may be reducing the amount of time individuals are deployed in very hostile environments, more frequent psychological evaluations, extended periods of decompression after deployments.
@@pmh1nic You are right, but nobody is saying it happened in isolation, and even though you can certain things (because your desensitized and nobody is watching), it doesnt mean you should do it, they did know it was wrong, they knew the rules, and truth is not everyone chose to do this things, actually it was a minority, even though many more could have done them they chose not to, so it was a choice and thus you cant strip all responsibility.. I think they derailed, they made bad decisions and the real problem was nobody in command was ready to catch them and help them get back on track.
I think part of their training should be focused in strengthening their moral and ethical compase. So in the end the system failed them, and it should be improved, you are right about that.. But it still was their choice, they knew, and if many more others in the same situation could and did make the right choice, then they are accountable for their actions.
When your in a war zone fighting people that want to kill you everyday, you most likely go down some dark parts of the psyche. Its part of the way you cope and survive such a brutal situation. I can't judge them because i wasn't there.
Well put let it go
Saddle was American best friend,because with his help and American arms, he million of Irans, when he was not usable anymore they attacked his country with a lie, weapon of mass destruction, American has weapons of mass destruction, which they used inww2, after provoking the Japanese to attack, to use as an excuse to get into War, which was pay for by American money, allen dullard brothers and all the other brown shirts, billarden was working for the USA,
The term "war crimes" is used repeatedly throughout this interview by both interviewer and interviewee yet neither specify exactly what war crimes were committed. They don't even define the term. The Geneva Convention on the other hand does quite clearly define war crimes. When viewed by someone sitting in a comfortable and safe video recording studio who has never been in combat are some of the alleged actions repugnant? Yes, but even if the allegations are absolutely true and accurate are they "war crimes"? Not according to the Geneva Convention.
Killing innocent civilians in the act of War, is indeed a War crime...
@@wolf7el356 Civilians always die in war. That's especially true in modern war with bombs and missiles. That reality is recognized within both the Geneva Convention of 1949 and the US Uniform Code of Military Justice.
@@bobhunt4402 Deliberate killing of civilians is not the same thing as collateral damage or blowback. To murder an unarmed civilian that poses no threat to you is a War Crime & there is no justification for it on any level. We're specifically trained to NOT do that, especially a Navy SEAL from DEVGRU.
@@wolf7el356 You mean those unarmed civilians who were just carrying their "family weapons"?
Pretty sure mutilating bodies is not ok
US Military doing what they've always done here and abroad.
War is ugly. Go seals ! The enemies need to fear our military. They will lose the will to fight. This guy is a major P word.
My brother, when you die one day, will you die as an American or as a human being? If there is a God out there, do you think he cares about your americanism or about your deeds in your life? I pray to God that you see the humanity in everyone, regardless of their nationality. Cuz I believe in Adam & Eve and hence we all are siblings....bad people and good people are on both sides.....but unfortunately nationalism has been ingrained in you since your childhood, which will not help you when you are in your grave....wake up my brother.....travel thru other countries to see that you have more in common with the 'Others' than you might think.
michael ellis, don’t bother about the other guy commenting on this. he’s probably just another anti american person who rather terrorist be set free for ethics, rather then show them we don’t take revenge and justic lightly.
godspeed
1 video and now everybody is an expert on Devgru
One video with a whole lot of interesting information. The Navy better get its shit together. The American people are watching, and we know a Nazi when we see one.
@@MiClLC what does the navy have to do with Nazism
@@MiClLC you wouldn't be here if it was not for them
OBL was canoed, good grief. And he was such a gentle soul.
Then they threw his body in the sea to see if it would float ?. It's all beginning to "make sense" !
His parents said "he was such a nice boy"
One of the most important aspects of that mission was to identify him, so seems like they either did it afterwards, it didnt happen, there was a cover up, or the seals are just as human and sloppy as anybody letting pride and emotions get in the way.
Lmao I am dying laughing that is hillarious.
It’s none of our business. If you care so much.. go over there and see what they would do to an American. You think this stuff is bad?
Why so many dislikes? What deranged, patriotic lunatics can’t handle the truth?
I think it's hilarious. I don't see the problem with stomping a couple skulls in. We all enjoy the benefits provided by the tip of the spear but you get butthurt because criminals occasionally get cut by it.
The ones that pick a side of the pen thinking they run the farm
@@fuckyou1p8r487p93q47 your EL-ite masters enjoy the benefit
You cant be on your first deployment if you are in seal team six. You need a lot of military experiance to be in seal team six.
Wrong very wrong
@@kevinm4209 ye ur right. seal team six is know for recruiting fat drunk 80 yo bums from the streets....
to be fair he did say this was shortly after the war in Afghanistan started
Kevin M Kevin you’re talking out of your ass you fruit cake. Go play call of duty.
@@kevinm4209 To get into Dev, you must have a few years under your belt before going in. You can't apply off the street or be assigned to JSOC right after completing your training. This was the a key principle of the unit from its conception. Go watch CNN and eat a bat
I Love It When People Who Have Never Been In Combat Or Shot At, Place Judgement On Those That Have!! Sleep Well Under The Blanket Of Freedom That These Warriors Provide!!
Then when these "warriors" come home, they so happy in their "blanket of freedom" they're topping themselves at an average rate of 22/day ??
Beheading and skinning people didnt help protect anyone's freedom
Mathew Cole is a communist.
I was thinking this exact thing. I don’t support unethical treatment of civilians but it is completely laughable how some desk jocky can ridicule these elite operators. ESPECIALLY regarding excessive force against the opposition. I get the complaints, but you don’t understand - they are literally in hell on earth
ROYS TOYS I HOPE YOU GET RICHER GOD BLESS THE NAVY SEALS AND ROYS TOYS ALSO AMEN
"Search you feelings. You know it to be true." -Darth Vader
"You want.....this? Don't you?"
(Gently caresses HK long gun with suppressor)
Lots of keyboard warriors in this section playing COD and watching glamorized Hollywood movies with cool soundtracks ... far from reality, safe in their western homes. War is hell. There’s no glory, no honor, especially these days. Watching someone lose their humanity doesn’t just extend to the enemy that so many here celebrate, it doesn’t end there.
Psychopaths are not awesome, they’re assholes who only care about themselves, that means they couldn’t give a fuck about you and in this field, may well daydream about doing something sadistic to you whilst laughing that you’re defending them, buying their books, kissing their ass on social media. Don’t get me wrong, not all special forces are psychopaths, perhaps a minority as they’re a liability.
Watching someone you love become brutalised, lose their humanity, severe ptsd that they don’t want to confront or momentarily is not fun. This is all for the elites, betrayals and constantly switching sides, proxy wars between world leaders that are quite often in bed with each other. Is it worth it, no.
But please don’t let me interrupt your circle jerk session
Nexus
Be honest now, who is really circle jerking here, you & your guilty conscience maybe?
Shut the fuck up man, if you were dumb enough to go over to killing fields for the rich cause they said some guy in a cave flew planes into New York (they also said they could find the plane blackboxes in the wreckage but they found the highjackers paper passports) but bin Laden didn't shut down NORAD that day, Cheney did that with the help of some other individuals.....
.....might point is if the killing fields were not to your liking, maybe you shouldn't have been there invading other countries to make rich people richer based on lies.
Next time you want to get all holier than thou and bent out of shape remember this:
In just the 2 u.s. - Iraq wars and the sanctions a grand total of approximately 3,000,000 Iraqi people died, about half in the last war
Iraq had been our ally fight Iran for 10 years before the Gulf War, he was told he had u.s. approval to invade Kuwait but George H.W. Bush was playing him. Then his son made up an excuse to go invade their county because they said a man in a cave in Afghanistan flew planes into New York-
3,000,000 Iraqis killed where they lived that had not done anything to us to make rich Americans richer. They stole a whole country and didn't even share the spoils with the army, the boys got sent home missing limbs and having PTSD and we're promptly forgotten.
Do you feel bad about how it all turned out, you should
..... Everyone should.
I don't think we are competing with Divinity Schools for Special Unit Operators.
That someone re-killed a dead guy doesn't cause me to much concern.
That's just as well, eh ?
Then 22/day of these "heroes" come home and kill themselves because US is such a great place to be.
@@gerardvaughan1847 Name one SEAL Team 6 operator that's ever come home and killed himself. Just one. Then shut the fuck up because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
“We don’t know, but we believe” says it all
There is no peace without the violence of good men. There are no rules when you're fighting monsters. I wouldn't expect civilians to understand. You all live in bliss because of the actions of a few. God bless our servicemen 🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
THATS RIGHT ZZZZZ GOD BLESS OUR SERVICE MEN AMEN TO ALL OF THEM AMEN
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
FREE JULIAN ASSANGE!
Julian Assange is a misdirecting of attention psyop.
I look forward to hearing him really talk. He has as much as said flat out that Seth Rich gave wikileaks the emails.
julian assange is an enemy of the united states who’s actions have probably caused the death of countless operatives who were exposed because of his need to play hero. one day america will be able to seek revenge, god bless america
I'd rather you just thanked them for your Freedom and Safety than whine about the manor in which they protect it !
What is legal isn't necessarily moral and what is moral isn't necessarily legal.
Right and wrong 'actions' can Only be determined by their effects, not by decrees.
For instance, you cannot legalize 'murder' by calling it something else, like 'military actions', then, therefore, apply virtue to the term, but then say that head stomping the 'enemy' is immoral.
It's philosophically inconsistent, through and through, because murder, already, on its own, is a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle.
You cannot, by proclamation, change Natural Law or undo the consequences from its violations.
By ignoring this fact, people will always be subject to manipulation and/or confusion.
Governmental laws, words written down (or in the case at hand, 'rules of engagement' for the people that they 'label' as soldiers), are something akin to magic spells. It's like a magic trick. Yep, our Rulers are like wizards/magicians in the way that they try to change/manipuate reality.
And unfortunately, it feels like we are being lead away from those bloody, hard-won principles that mankind has discovered over the millenia.
Btw, it has never been clear to me by which principles Democracy Now is operating from.
Then why are there war crimes?
To make you think war itself is not a crime?
@@Bazompora
Indeed, the neo cons went into Syria anyway, despite a No vote from Congress. Such was their humanity and concern for the "plight" of the Syrians. - and helped ISIS etc Al murder unthinkable numbers of them.
Syria survived with help from Russia and Iran. Libya not so fortunate. See "Benghazi Whistleblowers. The Story behind the cover up."
So to sum up your nonsense word salad,
Would you agree that what you mean to say is that when it comes to war, Anything goes.
As the nature of war is savage so those who become embroiled in it must become total savages otherwise they may be called hypocrites.
If so I think You may have been reading your Philosophy and Ethics books upside-down or something.
Your Simplistic dogma although wrapped in big words is akin to saying we evolved from monkeys so lets not pretend to be any better than a Chimps.
A standard you seem to be living up to, If your comment is anything to go by.
How do you control a group of hardened killers? I mean really, who is going to supervise them out in the field? Certainly not keyboard crybabies, or some pampered high ranking officer.
The Seals don't HAVE pampered officer's, only honored and respected operators who get promoted 4 living thru the hardened killing!!
Support the SEALs!!
Even God said
Eye for and eye.
Stop crying let them do their job
Never realised it was a wedding party that attacked US on 9/11. They keep changing their story !
Still, at least we got the Poppy fields back in production. The damn Taliban had decimated the industry, and Pig Pharma was not a happy Easter Bunny !
That's against the ganevaconvech conventi n
God did say "an eye for an eye" and he changed his mind later and said "turn the other cheek". Our boys can eliminate the bad guys without behaving like them...point of honor.
Most military units are run by the enlisted soldiers. Officers provide guidance and direction, but the enlisted personnel make it happen. Sergeants and Petty Officers make every unit work. Officers get involved when needed, but normally in a limited fashion.
I sleep well in my bed because Violent Men are ready to take action
That's what nazi supporters said
Who thought otherwise? You can clearly see the human garbage in the comments.
Good job SEALs
You teach men to kill, and you expect what?
My uncle was on a Spec Ops rape squad in Iraq.
James Quinn
Rape squad?
@@jamesquinn5281 I hope you dont know an Eric quinn cause if so you fucked ur uncles reputation bud, either way you fucked his reputation actually and yours for being proud of it. this will be fun kid thanks for the info
@@caposantana8753Eric! Hahaha. Good times bro!!! No he's alive and doing well. When he went Afganistan he was SF and not on a rape squad. He did kill a few people when he was there. Iraq was the country where he made everyone his bitch.
@highmiles 68 Who's back peddling. Rape is a great tool that is used in war. It's very effective and can boost morale. My uncle is a patriot and so am I.
Two quotes come to mind after listening to this report. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Wars are ugly and sometimes you have to go in deep to get to the level of the enemy that you are trying to eliminate. We have units that are capable of doing this and they are extremely effective in what they do. These units operate outside of the public eye and that is where they are supposed to stay. These units sacrifice everything from family life to marriage to spending hardly anytime at home due to constant deployments. The second quote that comes to mind is, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf".
The two people (reporters) in this video are so far out of their element in regards to what they are talking about. They are literally on the outside looking in, however, what they are trying to see is incomprehensible to them.
Good Stuff!!
Well said. It is frustrating to listen to their opinions and judgements when they've no idea what it is like to be in those situations, no idea what it feels like to lose comrades, teammates, squadron mates during incredibly high stress, intense life or death combat operations. I am so incredibly grateful that these guys are still out there on our behalf, ridding the world of those that would do us harm.
Very well put!
@@reggierico why the fuck were you in the first place. Remember you child goes to school and wife is back alone at home, he devil is never satidfied
"SEAL Team 6"??? Why can't these people, who apparently know everything, even get the name of the unit correct?
Thing is not taking prisoners mean the enemy won't surrender, if we mutilate corpses so will they, it's prity simple.
Crimes against a persons own soul will eventually consume them. These actions are signs of a country heading for collapse. Real collapse.
It is absurd to put these brave and absolutely essential warfighters in the hellish fights they are ordered to be a part of, and then criticize the way they do their duty. This is far from new. British forces in India regularly executed Punjabi fighters with cannon fire to obliterate their remains. In the minds of the Punjabi, this kept them from going to their afterlife. If you're going to combat a culture of death, like extreme Islam, you must be willing to fight on their terms. To not do so is to guarantee defeat. SEALS are extremely well-trained, patriotic warriors, and sitting back, safely behind the wall of protection they help keep maintained, criticizing what they do in the heat of battle, while risking death and worse, is deplorable.
Kevin Gossett; I absolutely agree with you Sir. Please correct me if I'm wrong, first we send these elite dedicated warriors to fight a brutal enemy that torture untill they're satisfied and then behead them while recording it for the whole world to see if they get caught, second, our country keep deploying them to the front lines and even behind enemy lines time after time after time well beyond the "burn out" point and then our country treat them like criminals even to the point of having a hard time getting help from VA after they return. I think that this is similar to the "civilians" asking for a fair trial for the ones in Guantanamo.
Well, there are no trials at all in war, either you live or get killed. Most of these critics so called "geniuses" haven't even been servicemembers let alone been in combat trying to make the correct decisions under fire and in extremelly dangerous enviroments. Maybe we should send "Girl Scouts" with a lot of cookies on deployments against these enemies or the critics can pick up a rifle, munitions and equipment to solve this issues against these unmercifull individuals,(taliban, isil or any other), so they can make the right decisions and do what they think is right. It's very easy to talk of an issue when you haven't experience it.
Civilians may not even care of the phychological problems that these servicemembers bring back with them, problems that cause the fracture of their mental health, family circle and even to the point of committing suicide if they do not receive the appropriate help on time. This servicemembers certainly deserve so much better.
SEMPER FI!!.
Seal Team members get intel from other sources. If they "hit" a caravan in effort it is due to bad intel. Besides the fact that bad guns are imbedded within these groups and "wedding" goers like The Left is imbedded in "news blogs" like this one.
we should not forget the scene where a soldier pissed on a dead Afghan body
Or the scenes where US military personnel's bodies were lit on fire by Al Qaeda.
The jihadists would do worse to our children. War is chaos. People do horrible things doing war. Trust me, when someone shoots at you, you don’t stay philosophic. You get a rage that can’t be described. That is why war is tragic. People become prehistoric when in battle
Taliban fighter*
I know flying airplanes into tall buildings doesn't sound so bad, but 100s of people being cooked in gas is pretty bad.
Thank god for men like that to sacrifice for our safety.
AMEN AMEN AMEN TO RANDY GATES GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES AMEN AMEN AMEN
I vote we drop this guy off in Afghanistan for a couple of years; zero assistance or support from U.S. Military
Marv X how fast would this fuckin guy change his tune on his knees with a hood on about to have his fucking head chopped off.......tisk tisk mr you just lost yourself a global 911
@@jaredbrown1580 Afghans would protect a US American who tells the truth. Because the only Americans the world knows age lying thieves and murderers.
Why dont you grow some balls and go yourself?? You fat ass fucks talk a lot bbn of shit from the safety of your living room.
This dude said “their acts were hidden from the public.”....well I could be wrong but even their Identities are hidden from the public. If their identities are hidden of COURSE their acts will be.
This is a smear campaign by Obama, hillary and Biden because they knew their secrets are coming out and they will hang untill dead.. That's the reason Biden ran for president, God is having fun with him right now untill the revelations come out but make no mistake ,they will face justice . No Mercy to Traitors.
What's the problem of torturing terrorists that tortured and killed lots of people??!!!
Nearly three thousand comments in this thread, but I'm adding mine anyway.
Do I favor more wars? No. Is it acceptable behavior to mutilate the enemy post-mortem? No. There are laws governing our behavior even in wartime and combat. There are also protocols and localized rules governing our professionalism. Dead is dead. Even if we lost a teammate and the enemy did shitty things to his corpse, retaliation is accepted and expected, mutilating the dead is not. We become no better than the enemy we seek to destroy and defeat by succumbing to the impulsiveness that creeps into the mind after suffering the loss of a close friend, brother and team member.
It would be best if politicians and their global banking controllers, those inbred psychopathic bloodline banking families, who always benefit from (financing BOTH sides plus) all the killings, bombings, terror attacks and worse, didn't do everything they can to start wars and send our people off to kill and be killed. But the masses haven't yet figured that out. Until then, until ALL people wake up and start working together to make the politicians do what the voters want AND people can resolve their artificially created differences (stop buying the media lies) to become united to a common goal of ending their grip on everything, every system, including education, entertainment, banking, media, medicine, industry of every kind, food production, access to information, the intelligence community, communications, the military, organized religion, and so many more systemic and global sociological controls there will be no peace and no end to wars on this planet. There are but a few families with access to limitless wealth that have been behind every war and genocide for centuries. Incredulity and disbelief by the average person to see that their control is in fact very real are two of the best tools they depend on to retain their global power.
Try reading. The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy by Jim Marrs, any of his books actually, and books written by Fritz Springmeier, or Johnny Cirucci for much more about the real rulers of this world.
Also 'JFK to 911 - a rich man's trick''
What drives this little weak lamb chop to question and try to expose the Shepards that protect him and his fellow sheep family?
Did he just say battle field ethics?
Did he do his service? Foreign or at home?
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Don't try to reason with ANY of these sheep... Drop them behind enemy lines for an hour, taking fire and mortars from some indistinct rooftop somewhere, and watch them BEG THE U.S. to issue an airstrike to save them, regardless of the "collateral damage"...
I love how everyone commenting on this channel honestly thinks a RUclips channel is going to be able to uncover anything on the most secretive and most classified military unit in the world.
Seal team 6 is not the most secretive unit in the world. Delta Force is more secretive, JTF2 in canada is more secretive even the priminister of canada doesn't know everything including their deployments. Many countries have more secretive tier 1 than seal team 6. CIA has its own special forces who are more secretive.
The interviewer is terrible, but Cole clearly knows his stuff and isn’t some knee-jerk anti-military guy. He seems to care most about the truth.
We support SEAL TEAM 6! 100%!
Good idea !. Just try not ever look like a wedding party without a large sign on the ground for US zombies to read saying "We all US citizens and love Dick Cheney and George Bush, and believe "enhanced interrogation" is good for YOU, but not Us".
Lol Jesus. DEVGRU is even more cool than I thought.
kill the enemy means kill the enemy . it is not child's play or for the weak at heart.
sure kill the enemy not innocent civilians for sport that just makes you a sociopath
It was a war. It's difficult to judge those guys by people who have never been in the combat situation.
They “‘unearthed’ an interview that had never been found before”. LMAO
It’s an interview. It was found. During the darn interview. This dude is nuts. How can you find an interview for a book?
Killing people isn't a "job", even though they pay you for it.
@nick sweeney killing people because someone else told you they were bad ? really , this is a profession . are you real ? so if you were to kill another , who had raped or killed one of your "family" . and do it in your own way . you are a murderer and you will go to jail . that's because we have rules and laws in place that will deal with the perps of the crime against yours . there are rules of engagement in war that need to be adhered to also , otherwise all sorts of atrocities will be carried out . but unusually its the allies that carry out most atrocities as we are now discovering . how do you make the distinction betwixt war crimes and acts of valour ? is it based on who carries the acts out ? it would seem so . war crime if a foreigner does it , act of valour if its an ally .
Apparently a lot of so called patriots didn't like to hear the reality of war and atrocities attempted by US troops and gave thumbs down.
In vietnam.....they put skulls of the vc on their tanks...war is hell...and not for the weak hearted...to second guess them after the fact is wrong...attrocities were made on both sides of every war since the beginning of time...If you train someone to kill without prejudice...dont be offended if they dont do it politically correct.
The whole problem with America is lack of Ethics
Ruby Ridge
Uss Liberty
Waco
All would have been handled different if the government had Ethics in mind
US Govt is "advised" by the fake Jew Satanyahoo, The CFR, and Congress controlled by a bunch of Zionists known as AIPAC. That is why. If it don't fit his agenda, ain't gonna happen.
Unrelated ta this video.
Assassinations that took place at ruby ridge were part of agenda 3-3.6
This video is in regards to agenda 12.8-13.3
@@jimmyhunt9081
They were murders, not "assassinations"
These men are heroes who put their lives at risk hundreds of times during a combat deployment, and they should be given great latitude to prosecute our enemies. War is hell and terrible things happen in combat, including civilian deaths. If these jihadis and their families don't like the treatment they get, they shouldn't crave war.
RIGHT YOU ARE RON THIS GUY MATT COLE SHOULD SHUT UP AND GET ANOTHER JOB
You belong to a physic institution you depraved shit
As a Viet Nam Combat Veteran no one is a hero.
Your either a victim of the unknown when you got
drafted or enlisted.
No lost soul expects to become a butcher.
Serving in the Military doesn't make America
any safer & in most cases doesn't help your
life experiences which will come later in life.
your argument could easily apply the other way around lmao "If these americans don't like the things terrorists do they shouldn't fuck with other countries"
@@baileyayyy5085why are you sympathizing with Zarqawi?
seal team 6 more like cia hit squad extrodinaires
Seven years later. Has even one sailor been charged let alone convicted of anything ???
wonder if this dude served?
God bless NAVY SEAL’S
Thanks for these warriors who are heroes
most of them are in hell any way extortion 17
RIGHT YOU ARE JOHNNY AND THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH AMEN
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it."
Hatred has no place anywhere... ever. An exceptional soldier needs a sense of purpose, physical conditioning, a quick and creative intellect, a heart that wills him beyond the limitations faced in conflict and the knowledge that truth and justice is on his side.
I sleep easy knowing these men stand in my place.
Duty First!
the Frankfurt school at work, criticizing everything but never Israel or Israeli actions.
When this guy goes and fight for his life and his brothers then he can talk sh$&. War is not cake and icecream
Nobody said war is disney land. But this does not mean to kill innocent people. There are many instances where the US army and privat companies killed countless civilians in iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. This is not the America one once loved and respected. It’s more a dark nazi like horror creation. Where humanity was lost and torture is normal.
"War is a racket" -General Smedley Butler. He knows what war is. He is the most decorated marine in WWI.
Three cheers for Seal Team 6! We need guys like that. Canoe? Canoe!
Trust me- when things get bad real bad u want serial killers to make " IT" all stop. War is so gruesome. Where's my meds
WAR is WAR, you have to give the enemy no quarter. Show them the Black Flag Sir.
All they did was take out the *GARBAGE*
Damn straight.
Well done DEVGRU' pile em' high!
i had a good friend that was a marine, he came back from the war laughing about crushing a mans head with a big ass rock after killing him, we were drinking with 4 of his soldier friends and they talked about it laughingly....this was a very good friend of mine and a good guy before he went over there.....this doesnt surprise me at all
wake up war is brutal be brutal or lose
PC doesn't apply to war.
End of story.
I think you mean MORALITY doesn't apply to war. But you're WRONG. Because in wars prior to the VietNam-GENOCIDE-for-Control-of-the-Opium, there was MORALITY in wars. There was honor. There was courage. That's all gone now. Has nothing to do with "political correctness", which is not and never has been a terminology of use regarding war.
Those who play with the Devil's Toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword.
What if they used a sword??
I don't care, when this unit is.called in you"re going to receive the best of the worse in treatment. Sometimes mistakes are made it battle and those who cross the line should be dealt with internally regardless of rank.
I'm more upset that they cowered to the mandates
Thank you for covering this story, but for the love of God -- STOP pushing the idea that democracy equates to freedom! WE'RE NOT A DEMOCRACY! This is a Constitutional Republic.
a constitutional republic is a for of democratic governance you dumbass
@@phillipwombacher9635 You've been lied to, moron.
LETS BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS VIDEO IS. IT IS SIMPLY A STORY. PURE CONJECTURE. Carry on and have a nice day!
Yes the Team was imagining shooting statistics with their "leader" way ahead. Like just cuz he shot a little girl defending her Gramp, no need to go off the deep end, ay !? "Wee r a Superpower", as Mr. Pompouspiggo pointed out.
It always amazes me that all these experts who weren't there and have never experienced anything like what these SEAL's experience are all of a sudden aware of whats going on through second hand information. The game is highly dangerous and the rules are severe and it's the terrorists that set those rules so how do you want to deal with them.
Deal with them with the hand of death , the terrorist have 0 battle rules , were overseen by a bunch of yahoo deck jockey , meanwhile were being shot at from a church.
If this punk was held captive by terrorist in Afghanistan and team 6 came to rescue him do you think he'd complain about the way team members treated his captors?
The level of ignorance in these comments is astounding. No one wants to acknowledge that we went to an illegal war. No war since ww2 has been necessary.
It is absolutely necessary to combat the Communist Atheists and Islamists scourge across Asia, Africa, Latin America, Eastern Europe and the Middle East. If the US does not civilize the Backwards and Barbarics by killing the Communist Atheists and Islamists, the world will suffer and mass migration will continue to the handful of civilized countries
Caesar Vespasian No actually war is not necessary. It makes things worse. If we really wanted to improve the lives of middleeasterners there's lots of ways we could do it, without traumatizing both sides
Who gives af🤷
Go get some!!!!!!!!!
" tit for tat happens in war all the time! the Pacific during WWII is a perfect example! It is what it is!" dm
Do you have any proof of these serious accusations?
God bless the SEALS & GOD bless America.
isaac ddumba thank you!