@@tusharimdad9595 1984? Was a little before my time as a John Barnes fan but yeah, seen it plenty of times over my lifetime. Pushed expectation of him through the roof, so it was part curse and part blessing.
Foden cant because Bellingham is taking his position, Foden needs to start centrally hes not a touchline winger. Gordon should play on the left because hes more of a touchline winger.
@@YTA5690 I think what he means is that if you're a top top player you'll win matches regardless of if you are out wide or in the centre. You have the talent to adapt.
Facts David Silva stepped up for spain playing on the Wing. Great players take responsibility regardless of position and he's put in class games from that position for City so we know he can do it just shrinks in the England shirt
This is the sort of hard decision making that England historically does not do. England tends to force in all of their big names whether they fit or not
Bellingham didn't play the last friendly for England and Foden was still poor there. Foden is a system player. A lot of things have to go his way for him to really shine.
With Gordon, England should forget about winning any tiurnament. Foden is an elite player, and in those tight games later on in the tournament, you need him. Bellingham should be deeper and if not.. they should allow Harry Kane to drop off and vacate the space so Bellingham can run in there. Jude has a good engine but it's mad to build team around him as a number 10. He makes too many players redundant
Just use Foden as an impact sub in last 15 mins to keep Jude fresh. That will scare rivals until Foden gets fit & catches 🔥. Start Palmer & Gordon as they are on 🔥 & also sub them with Saka & Bowen & Eze. USE SUBS BETTER as per the Maths Profs & run rivals ragged.
Ancheloti is the best because he had Ac milan that had the same issue and created the diamond formation to accommodate Kaka and Seedorf. Why can't England do that instead of playing players out of thier positions.
I always wondered why England didn't play the diamond back in the Golden Generation days because that's the only formation where you could get Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard playing centrally. If Beckham was in then Gerrard would be the holder but that would still have been better than putting these guys on the flank IMHO. A Christmas tree formation (4-3-2-1) is the only formation that might have been better in that situation but that meant dropping one of the forwards. Rooney was better up top alone than Owen. The full backs would have a lot to do in the diamond. Cole and Neville weren't ideal for that system but that's the challenge finding the best system for the best players.
I said this, when Bellingham is on the pitch, Harry Kane and Phil Foden suffer the most because Bellingham likes to take up very similar spaces to those 2. For me its simple, Bellingham is an all-round midfielder. He has the mentalitiy and focus to do any job to win a game. So, stick Rice and Bellingham together. I promise you, we will NEVER concede a goal with them 2 in DM. Let Foden and Kane play they're usual role and Bellingham can play box-to-box and make those last minute runs he is known for.. Him and Rice can do this role and take it in turns depending on the situation on the pitch.
@afolabitoye4393 Bellingham can still make that run and score that goal regardless of whether he started as a 10 or as an 8 beside Rice. That's the reason he's a box to box midfielder
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What? So you restrict the best player in the world to fit Foden? You Di Maria in his prime is on the right wing because Madrid likes to run wingers that go inside. He still played left wing for Messi because you don’t limit Messi to play Di Maria at his best. Di Maria adapted to that. Foden has to adapt to someone better than him. Bellingham is the only chance England has and you shouldn’t restrict him so Foden can shine. That’s like making a rock shiny when you already have the best diamond in the world.
@@olekmasidnoz9182 brother, Jude is in conversations as the best in the world. He’s on Vini, and Mbappé levels. That’s Ballon d’Or levels. Phil Foden isn’t that. He’s good. But he’s not Mbappé good, he’s not Vinicius good, he hasn’t actually really reached even Haaland good. Jude elevated himself up there.
@@harrisonmonte-carlo8779 I know and it would solve the problem in midfield next to rice and they can put a proper left winger in like Gordon who keeps the width Bellingham won’t be playing as a 10 next season for Madrid it’s just because they didn’t have a striker it will all change when mbappe plays Bellingham will be an 8
City play completely different. Trippier doesn’t maraud forward like Cancelo used to do when Foden played there. Foden has been even better in the 10 though.
@@Bert-lw1ot he has hardly if ever played on left this year. Last year Grealish was favoured on the left. Plus you must have missed Gvardiol getting forward at will.
@@123daniel4 foden is 23ish 6 prems 5 league cups 5 fa cups 100 points cl treble sc cswc player of the year . saka zero and bottler oh and foden add 4 peek
Spot on. It is the Bellingham show now. England's obsession with a superstar. The reason we never win. It was Kane; the play maker. Just nonsense as usual. Whatever the team needs, not the best players.
Bellingham actually backs up the hype and takes games by the scruff of the neck. Every game he plays he has an impact, much like Saka. However the same can’t be said for Foden for England.
@@martymarl4602Bellingham shouldn't be dropped he should be put next to rice and foden in the 10 n Gordon on the left and kane needs to stop dropping deep. Bellingham can still make his late runs,foden can create and make defence cutting passes
If England play 4:3:3 we can play with two number 10s Bellingham and Foden, with Rice as the deepest midfielder .Back of four Walker, Stones, Guehi, Trippier or shaw. Front three of Saka, Kane, Gordon or Eze. Become a 4:5:1 out of posession. Then Bob’s your uncle I should be England manager
City played silva and de bruyne in a midfield 3 with Fernandinho. That team also had sane, sterling and aguero in the team. If you want to play your best players together you can do it you have the confidence
Exactly, he had more or less a free role at City. In the England team he is asked to stay and act as a wide player making crosses but he is always looking to make inside runs or cut in on the inside!
he is managed by pep its like getting out of a ferrari and getting into a ford fiesta do not compare city to england would bellingham get in citys team no f chance instead of who rodri or kdb
So Southgate need to be more ruthless and leave Foden in the bench. End of story and Period. And then all of English fans and media need to stop keep pushing the Foden agenda or even sensationalizing the agenda into furious debates that will never stop and perhaps will even cost England a good tournament.
@@thedean4431rodri or KDB aren’t in conversations as the best player in the world. You know who does? Vini, Mbappé, Bellingham. Brother, you don’t need to shine the Foden rock when you have the diamond Bellingham. He’s way better, and way younger, and I know this doesn’t account for much but he’s the face of the team because he’s in Madrid. He’s the face of the team and you want to restrict that?
Rodri and Kdb are definitely in the best in the world conversation wtf are you talking about, you could say maybe KDB has dropped out of it due to age but in his prime he’s 10x the player of current Bellingham.
@@ronnyron4681 yep leave the prems best player on the bench i donr know why city players go there its beneath them imagine city played that england team f hammer them mcfc 6 in 7 treble 4x 100 points super cup club world cup 4 peek remember that
What a silly excuse. Pep won’t be at city forever so a new coach would come and change the way they play. Also a top player needs to adapt to a different environment. Saka, Vini, Jude etc are performing for their countries. Foden is a top guardiola player. He isn’t world class.
You clearly don't follow Brazil cause Vini is getting criticism for not performing for Brazil at the same level as Real Madrid, Rodrygo plays better for Brazil than him
Vini has the same issue with Brazil and he is playing in his preferred position but can't do it like foden! Foden has played vs Iceland as #10 and ghosted the whole game
In most other countries, the team would be built around Foden. Belligham's physicality will help you beat Serbia and Denmark, but not France and Germany.
I think the inability to maximize veryone's potential is basically tactical and man management. theoretically, if you make the perfect touch, use the correct techniques, and make the right decisions, everyone can shine in the team. They just need to be team players rather than individuals. in other words, in every game, jude, foden, etc. just need to perfectly string the perfect passes and movements at the right tempo, and shoot hard and accurate enough, and everyone's happy.
He had one the best midfielders behind him. The game against Serbia he was naturally coming back into the 8 role and by doing so tired himself out and faded throughout the second half.
Finally some words of wisdom. Barnes knows better than most as England never saw the best of him. If you play Jude deeper then Foden may be effective. Should England beat or draw with Denmark then for the last game play Gordon; Foden and Saka behind Kane or even Watkins. What may help Foden is a player like Watkins making runs in the channels freeing space up. But come on Southgate aint Pep.
Hold on, isn't this the same Phil Foden that was brilliant largely playing on the left wing for several seasons before moving more centrally the season just gone? The same Phil Foden that never turned up for England prior to Bellingham breaking into the squad? I don't think it's where he's playing/playing with Jude and more-so about the England shirt weighing heavy or Southgate not getting the best out of him
Foden needs to deliver when he gets time, you can't keep blaming on Southgate or positions, when he gets the ball he needs to make things happen its simple as that, no more excuses by everyone! Foden whereever he plays he has to do the job and do it well! The player needs to stand up to challenges!
I dont think Gareth Southgate is technically astute enough to solve the problem of playing our best players in a system/formation,unlike Carlo Ancellotti
Just play Jude deeper.. which is where he’s going to end up next year at RM. He played as a 10/false 9 because they didn’t have a star striker. Mbappe and Vini jr will be doing that, with Rodrygo too. Jude is gonna be an 8 who comes from deep to score goals, just like Lampard.
Without Shaw on the pitch, you can easily argue 'Go three at the back, play two up front, have two proper wingers/WAMs, Two B2Bs and one holding the fort.' That's the only way I can see fitting both Foden and Bellingham into the same side. Pickford; Walker, Stones, Guehi; Saka, Bellingham, Rice, Foden, Eze; Kane, Watkins.
@@geekylove3603 When you can play with your left and right foot as well as he can you can play anywhere. This kid is a sensational talent and the fact he is not on the pitch is criminal
Foden has NEVER brought it for England either on the left or in the middle. The team needs penetration down the left so put a proper winger there. Also Rice needs a strong DM next to him so that he can go forward so no Trent for me.
Individuals instead of a team, that's the problem. Not to mention so many of our players like the ball to feet. Kane, Saka, Foden Bellingham, Palmer all like the ball at their feet in or around that 10 position. We have nobody running in behind.
Foden has to be played centrally as that #10 playmaker. He’s superb when he receives the ball on the half turn and sprays passes around. Bellingham will still have the same impact on the game deeper alongside Rice. It’s a no brainier!
I agree with Barnes. Foden has been played in all foward positions by Pep and has excelled in all of them. We saw him play as a 10 against Iceland and he still struggled regardless. Based on the system Southgate plays Foden will not thrive henceforth he has to bench
A lot of stupid people are trying to restrict the face of the project, the best player in the world for Phil Foden. Lol. Who gets pushed out? Someone who’s premier league player of the year? Or someone in conversations as the best player in the world with Vini and Mbappé, and plays for Real Madrid, the best team in the world with the most pressure, and highest standards? Madridistas hate non-perfect players and they all adore Jude. It’s obvious who needs to sacrifice. Look at Germany, they have two 10s and they adapted. Foden needs to adapt to Bellingham because he’s the face of the team and their best player. Also more importantly, it could be possible that Foden just had an off night. Lol.
Foden is overrated and is getting exposed outside of Man City. Great players are great wherever they play, even out of position. Good players (not exceptional) like Foden can't adjust. English hype as usual. Bellingham has mega hype that upsets people but he backs it up, even when he has bad games, people with ball knowledge see the little things he does to help the team out.
Bellingham is massively overrated too. He done fuxk all for Real Madrid in the latter stages of the season. He scores goal or assists to cover up stinkers 😂
@@olekmasidnoz9182Jude doesn't just score goals you know, where was Vini at the beginning of the season when Jude was winning el clasicos and Girona matches at the beginning of the season? He was La Liga player of the season for a reason, overrated is not the word... 😏😂
Personally think we shouldn’t be playing Kane. He doesn’t offer anything else besides a tap in, need a player almost like Havertz who acts as a pivot for the whole team and can make darting runs
You are right, but it's hard to tell him to stop when he's on fire atm while kane and foden are underperforming. I don't think I have seen kane make a run off a defenders shoulder in 4 years!
We call that best player in the world syndrome. Because he is. Kane will adapt, Bellingham doesn’t overlap much with him. But Foden needs to change it up. He’s gonna need to rediscover himself or else be swallowed by the media like now. And he can’t push Bellingham out of that position.
@MungaRaphael-lz3wx you are so right, jude is a black boy, he needs to make way for foden. If we keep rewarding places based on merit we will end up looking like the French squad!😡
Jude wasn't playing against Iceland.... Foden still wasn't good as a 10. people just need to understand that these system players are average when they don't have the system and other players to do dirty work. Foden in Man City system got no responsibility. he get no blame and no pressure. people like Rashford carried his team and blame. Greanlish carried Villa.
England can't bring the ball out of the back. Bellingham has to play alongside Rice and Foden plays behind Kane or on the right and Kane plays behing the striker.
Both players like to take up the same space, which does not work. Play Bellingham as 10 and leave Foden on the bench. Play a wide man left and bring back Shaw as soon as he is fit.
So you move Saka out of the right? Oh he likes to roam like Jude? So the best player in the world has to adapt to someone who’s worse than him? Bellingham is the face of the England team. Foden needs to adapt.
@@BiggestChungus21Bellingham in your opinion is best player in the world not mine. They are both that good they’d adapt, either could drop abit whilst the other is more forward
Foden has started for city off the left and played well. Bellingham does not stop foden from playing well. Foden just needs to get out of his own head. I believe Kane is not the right fit for the english striker. Hes the best striker but not the best FIT. Watkins is a better fit imo.
Call me old fashioned but what’s wrong with having two proper strikers up front like the old days so they can work together I would have toney and Watkins with foden behind Gordon on the left palmer on the right with rice and Bellingham in the middle and use Kane as a impact sub as my nan is quicker than him use the wide players to whip first time crosses in or even a cross would nice instead on this short tippy tappy passing on the floor which gets us nowhere then ends up all the way pack to the keeper.our players have no confidence to turn and beat a player and create quick passing football they stand on the ball and pass back.i have watched most of the games and most of the other nations play quick tempo football with the ball hit from one side to the other or down the wings crossing in to the boxes creating chances also hitting shots from outside of the box. we do not do that we want to walk the ball in to the net this style of football has been drummed into them for the last 8 years I think they don’t know how to play any different it’s like they have been brainwashed by Southgate I reckon Pickford has more touches than the rest of the keepers. if Kane is up front on his own then he needs balls whipped across the box not balls passed around the side of the area looking in for a way in to the box only for the ball to be sent all the way back to the keeper
We have to supply Harry Kane that's ALL that matters. Playing Bellingham too deep would be moronic too. Having Harry with 3 touches all game is a bad sign. We need pace and width and supply. Or we go home
Don't aree with this, but they need to be balanced off, Grealish was the man to do it, okay we'd be a bit narrow, but he'd play in the pockets behind Foden and Bellingham is all action he would run the show from no 8. Once Shaw is fit he'd offer width.
Bellingham isnt even a number 10. He's a natural 8. Play Jude in his actual position and play foden in his actual position. There's only one man to blame and its Southgate. Has the easiest job in the world If I was foden I'd just walk out of the camp and go on holiday until Southgate is sacked
We desperately need an old fashioned winger who can take on the full back and cross the ball like a prime John Barnes or Lee Sharpe...we just don't have these any more.
Rice holding, intercepting, simple passing, Bellingham has the fire and talent to be box to box, create and score then Foden 10 and coming in LW should be Gordon.
Bellingham should be in the midfield to next Rice. Bellingham isnt a playmaker like that, he's a crash the box midfielder who can get up and down the pitch and score goals. Just because Bellingham plays CAM for Real Madrid doesn't mean he should play there for England. Madrid have the players to hide Judes deficiencies despite what the media says. Foden needs players on the same wavelength.
It's simple Gareth. Players in their strongest position. Bellingham with Rice in middle. Foden in #10 and Gordon/Eze on the left. At least try it for 30 mins!
Even if u bring iniesta on that left wing role nothing will change with d way enlgand play football...man city would destroy this english squad all day long....southgate zero football knowledge
This is all on Southgate, having to direct wingers from either side is not the way to go if you wanna control games going forward an defend.. play Foden in a 4 3 3 an you'll find the balance!
I think he'll grow with the tournament and he'll deliver at a critical point,he's good talent,he's got goals in his boots, he's just lacking Jude's condidence,he needs the gaffers support. English are very impatient, maybe it is due to them not winning anything in decades
The problem isn’t Foden, it’s Southgate. Player of the season, yet Southgate bends over backwards to accommodate TAA, who did nothing. Bellingham just marauds around the pitch as if he’s the only one that matters, it’s supposed to be a team game, not the Jude Bellingham show! There’s no fluidity, no communication, countless times Foden was asking for the ball, making himself available, but just ignored
Phil is just unlucky he’s in a generation with Bellingham, alot like when they forced Scholes out onto the left and we didn’t see the best of him either. However scholes did adapt somewhat and still had success for england, Foden will have to so the same, if hes world class he will adapt. If he’s not then he’ll have to sit it out.
Foden is a system player Jude is a free player, Pep turns players into system players, his players. For Foden to shine he must play freely & get the Pep system out of his mind!
Just because Gordon Ramsay can cook a good Steak & Chips doesn't mean I'd play him on the left wing. It's about what you're good at. You play the best players in the position they play best. Surely that's obvious .... isn't it? Why isn't that obvious? Paul Scholes suffered the same fate with England.
Why the hell should Jude take a back seat to accommodate Foden? For 4yrs Foden had many chances and blee them all. He was playing the central against Iceland whilst Jude was resting after the CL and he did nothing. What does that say?!?
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Remember his Brazilian style goal versus Brazil?
@@tusharimdad9595 1984? Was a little before my time as a John Barnes fan but yeah, seen it plenty of times over my lifetime.
Pushed expectation of him through the roof, so it was part curse and part blessing.
If you’re a quality player you step up no excuses
Foden cant because Bellingham is taking his position, Foden needs to start centrally hes not a touchline winger. Gordon should play on the left because hes more of a touchline winger.
@@YTA5690 I think what he means is that if you're a top top player you'll win matches regardless of if you are out wide or in the centre. You have the talent to adapt.
Facts
Facts David Silva stepped up for spain playing on the Wing. Great players take responsibility regardless of position and he's put in class games from that position for City so we know he can do it just shrinks in the England shirt
@@cavanriley7373💯 right and Foden is not David Silva ...
Foden should be on the bench as back up to Bellingham. Bring in Bowen. Gordon or eze for the left wing.
Bellingham should just be box to box. He's good breaking up play too and has the fitness to get up and down
Am a city fan and I support you
This is the sort of hard decision making that England historically does not do. England tends to force in all of their big names whether they fit or not
What are you smocking😂
Gordon on the left, foden,rice, Bellingham, Palmer on the right. Or swap foden and Palmer. That was hard......
Bellingham didn't play the last friendly for England and Foden was still poor there. Foden is a system player. A lot of things have to go his way for him to really shine.
So by your logic England have no system?
@@GermanChickenwingu can’t defend fodens performances for England don’t even try
@@GermanChickenwingThey have a system but it's not one that Foden can thrive in
@@GermanChickenwing ONLY Pep has a system like Pep's.
@@saab2906 Did i? I never.. My problem is people calling him a system player.. All teams have system people
Bellingham was not playing against iceland when foden was playing 10 and we lost 0-1
Foden should not start at all
@@Rua007 drop that diving joke bellingham and let the big guns in who dont play in farmer leagues
@@thedean4431 what would have been the score in the first game then clown?
With Gordon, England should forget about winning any tiurnament. Foden is an elite player, and in those tight games later on in the tournament, you need him. Bellingham should be deeper and if not.. they should allow Harry Kane to drop off and vacate the space so Bellingham can run in there. Jude has a good engine but it's mad to build team around him as a number 10. He makes too many players redundant
@@thedean4431 lmaooo
Spot on John. The style of football that England play is the problem, and that’s down to Southgate.
Its Southgates fault for not taking him out of the team if he doesn't suit the system, you shouldn't cater for one player at the expense of the team
@@sosolawson6587How about we choose a system that gets the best out of our best players?
@@KevinSheedy10 I don’t think Southgate is that tactically astute.
There’s no time to retrain all the players a system they are not used to at club level, in international football. i think that’s what John meant.
Just use Foden as an impact sub in last 15 mins to keep Jude fresh. That will scare rivals until Foden gets fit & catches 🔥. Start Palmer & Gordon as they are on 🔥 & also sub them with Saka & Bowen & Eze. USE SUBS BETTER as per the Maths Profs & run rivals ragged.
None of those is benching Saka
😂😂 they played against Iceland at home... and they lost 😂😂 average players
@@Seby1xyeah but Gordon was one of the best players if not the best, one player can’t stop a defeat dafty 🤦♂️
@@Charlton2010Grealish is better than Gordon. Shame they didn't take him.
@@Seby1xlosing any game doesn't make you average. Argentina lost to Saudi and went on to win the World cup, so did Spain.
Gordon needs to get his chance on the LW.
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Ancheloti is the best because he had Ac milan that had the same issue and created the diamond formation to accommodate Kaka and Seedorf. Why can't England do that instead of playing players out of thier positions.
Because they are not that brilliant
I always wondered why England didn't play the diamond back in the Golden Generation days because that's the only formation where you could get Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard playing centrally. If Beckham was in then Gerrard would be the holder but that would still have been better than putting these guys on the flank IMHO.
A Christmas tree formation (4-3-2-1) is the only formation that might have been better in that situation but that meant dropping one of the forwards. Rooney was better up top alone than Owen.
The full backs would have a lot to do in the diamond. Cole and Neville weren't ideal for that system but that's the challenge finding the best system for the best players.
Because Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the world and Southgate is not.
I said this, when Bellingham is on the pitch, Harry Kane and Phil Foden suffer the most because Bellingham likes to take up very similar spaces to those 2.
For me its simple, Bellingham is an all-round midfielder. He has the mentalitiy and focus to do any job to win a game. So, stick Rice and Bellingham together. I promise you, we will NEVER concede a goal with them 2 in DM.
Let Foden and Kane play they're usual role and Bellingham can play box-to-box and make those last minute runs he is known for.. Him and Rice can do this role and take it in turns depending on the situation on the pitch.
Do you mean like the goal he scored? If Jude had not been there, perhaps England would have ended the match nil
@afolabitoye4393 Bellingham can still make that run and score that goal regardless of whether he started as a 10 or as an 8 beside Rice. That's the reason he's a box to box midfielder
Southgate is a championship manager he will never do anything smart
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What has this got to do with the video tho 🤷🤦♂️
England need Eze to help break down team coming from the wing and going in the middle of the field dribble 2 to 3 player so England need Eze.
What? So you restrict the best player in the world to fit Foden? You Di Maria in his prime is on the right wing because Madrid likes to run wingers that go inside. He still played left wing for Messi because you don’t limit Messi to play Di Maria at his best. Di Maria adapted to that. Foden has to adapt to someone better than him. Bellingham is the only chance England has and you shouldn’t restrict him so Foden can shine. That’s like making a rock shiny when you already have the best diamond in the world.
Jude ain't the best player in the world bro😂😂
Took awhile for Di Maria to adapt and took a while years even for Argentina to get the best out of messi
Jude isn't better than Phil though
@@olekmasidnoz9182 brother, Jude is in conversations as the best in the world. He’s on Vini, and Mbappé levels. That’s Ballon d’Or levels. Phil Foden isn’t that. He’s good. But he’s not Mbappé good, he’s not Vinicius good, he hasn’t actually really reached even Haaland good. Jude elevated himself up there.
Bellingham is ruining the whole team
Why does everyone think Bellingham has to play 10 when he’s an 8 so annoying
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This over relying on the 20 yr old kid is gonna be England's downfall, as good as he is!!!! He should be just behind Foden both centrally.
@@harrisonmonte-carlo8779 I know and it would solve the problem in midfield next to rice and they can put a proper left winger in like Gordon who keeps the width Bellingham won’t be playing as a 10 next season for Madrid it’s just because they didn’t have a striker it will all change when mbappe plays Bellingham will be an 8
@@T-hv9lv 🎯💯 you have a good football brain son
He’s been fine on the left for Man City, why are people talking like he’s been playing number 10 for City for years?? He’s barely played there at all
City play completely different. Trippier doesn’t maraud forward like Cancelo used to do when Foden played there. Foden has been even better in the 10 though.
@@environm3ntalist549 he’s been playing with centre backs at left back for 2 seasons, not exactly marauding forward either
@@Bert-lw1ot he has hardly if ever played on left this year. Last year Grealish was favoured on the left. Plus you must have missed Gvardiol getting forward at will.
@@environm3ntalist549 THIS YEAR yes, but for most of his City career he has! KDB in the middle and Bernardo Silva on the right
That’s what I’m confused about too. Otherwise he wouldn’t put there in the 1st place.
And people say Saka is blocking Fodens pathway.
Saka is 22 and Foden is 25
@@123daniel4 Wrong Saka is still 22 and Foden just turned 24 last month.
Who's saying that?
@@123daniel4 foden is 23ish 6 prems 5 league cups 5 fa cups 100 points cl treble sc cswc player of the year . saka zero and bottler oh and foden add 4 peek
@@monkey39128 the guy he was running past is 37 lol he got battered in the second half
Well said Mr Barnes
Spot on. It is the Bellingham show now. England's obsession with a superstar. The reason we never win. It was Kane; the play maker. Just nonsense as usual. Whatever the team needs, not the best players.
Yeah true however kane fc still exists . Hence why he doesn’t get taken off
Bellingham actually backs up the hype and takes games by the scruff of the neck. Every game he plays he has an impact, much like Saka. However the same can’t be said for Foden for England.
are you suggesting they drop Belligoal? Who should be dropped in your opinion, your take is ambiguous
@@martymarl4602Bellingham shouldn't be dropped he should be put next to rice and foden in the 10 n Gordon on the left and kane needs to stop dropping deep.
Bellingham can still make his late runs,foden can create and make defence cutting passes
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You want to reduce Bellingham just to accommodate Foden. Do you realise that the goal Bellingham scored foden will never be there
Jude is England's best player, foden gets in his way. Drop foden play antony gordon.
Bellingham is a number 8 not a 10. He just happens to play 10 for real and has done a good job. Bellingham should be 8 foden 10.
I was with you UNTIL the last part. I like Antony Gordon but come on, you lose credibility when you say he's better than Foden😂😂
😂😂😂Bellingham is not better than Foden stop it
@@delete9090 Has more pace and he's a better winger than foden. That was the problem in the second half there was no out ball.
@@smallmanjimu7557 jude is a million light years better than foden, there is no comparison.
If England play 4:3:3 we can play with two number 10s Bellingham and Foden, with Rice as the deepest midfielder .Back of four Walker, Stones, Guehi, Trippier or shaw. Front three of Saka, Kane, Gordon or Eze. Become a 4:5:1 out of posession. Then Bob’s your uncle
I should be England manager
Bellingham position in Madrid is Harry Kane role , if Kane is dropping to the middle, then crushing the box .
City played silva and de bruyne in a midfield 3 with Fernandinho. That team also had sane, sterling and aguero in the team. If you want to play your best players together you can do it you have the confidence
Exactly, he had more or less a free role at City. In the England team he is asked to stay and act as a wide player making crosses but he is always looking to make inside runs or cut in on the inside!
he is managed by pep its like getting out of a ferrari and getting into a ford fiesta do not compare city to england would bellingham get in citys team no f chance instead of who rodri or kdb
So Southgate need to be more ruthless and leave Foden in the bench. End of story and Period.
And then all of English fans and media need to stop keep pushing the Foden agenda or even sensationalizing the agenda into furious debates that will never stop and perhaps will even cost England a good tournament.
@@thedean4431rodri or KDB aren’t in conversations as the best player in the world. You know who does? Vini, Mbappé, Bellingham. Brother, you don’t need to shine the Foden rock when you have the diamond Bellingham. He’s way better, and way younger, and I know this doesn’t account for much but he’s the face of the team because he’s in Madrid. He’s the face of the team and you want to restrict that?
Rodri and Kdb are definitely in the best in the world conversation wtf are you talking about, you could say maybe KDB has dropped out of it due to age but in his prime he’s 10x the player of current Bellingham.
@@ronnyron4681 yep leave the prems best player on the bench i donr know why city players go there its beneath them imagine city played that england team f hammer them mcfc 6 in 7 treble 4x 100 points super cup club world cup 4 peek remember that
Why not!!!!!Bellingham assisted him a ball he shd put on the Net.bring Gordon on simple
Gvardiol isn't left footed? You sure about that John?
He definitely is left footed haha
He is left footed though
@@selenkywrecklesswell done very clever
He wanted to say Trippier cos Southgate used Trippier as left back who is right footed
@derickjd5274 no he said he should be used to playing with a right footed left back because Gvardiol is right footed (which he isnt)
Hard to believe Bellingham is only 20.....future England captain this one.
What a silly excuse. Pep won’t be at city forever so a new coach would come and change the way they play. Also a top player needs to adapt to a different environment. Saka, Vini, Jude etc are performing for their countries. Foden is a top guardiola player. He isn’t world class.
You clearly don't follow Brazil cause Vini is getting criticism for not performing for Brazil at the same level as Real Madrid, Rodrygo plays better for Brazil than him
What a lie! Show me the games that Vini hasn’t performed? 😂
He may not have the same goal production for Brazil like in Madrid, but he is assisting alot and a part of almost every dangerous attack Brazil makes.
Vini has the same issue with Brazil and he is playing in his preferred position but can't do it like foden! Foden has played vs Iceland as #10 and ghosted the whole game
@@kdaray8010u fckn talking about a friendly gtoh
It's bizarre how Barnes is not on TV and radio anymore, he is the only one that makes sense.
One qualification to be a Tv & Radio host is to be Idiotic. To have abysmal opinions that bring attraction to discussion and reactions.
In most other countries, the team would be built around Foden.
Belligham's physicality will help you beat Serbia and Denmark, but not France and Germany.
Foden has had 35 caps and scored 4 goals it’s time to try something different, give Bellingham a chance
I think the inability to maximize veryone's potential is basically tactical and man management. theoretically, if you make the perfect touch, use the correct techniques, and make the right decisions, everyone can shine in the team. They just need to be team players rather than individuals. in other words, in every game, jude, foden, etc. just need to perfectly string the perfect passes and movements at the right tempo, and shoot hard and accurate enough, and everyone's happy.
Arsenal with rice and saka weren't up to the task when Arsenal were knock out of Europe last season.
I mean Bellingham was playing out of position at real madrid this whole season n guy delivered thats what u call a wc player
He had one the best midfielders behind him. The game against Serbia he was naturally coming back into the 8 role and by doing so tired himself out and faded throughout the second half.
You are spot on. Bellingham is world class.
Where was he in the latter stages of the season for madrid, literally a passenger. Goals and assists covered many Tapingham stinkers
@@olekmasidnoz9182@olekmasidnoz9182 Scored against Barcelona and assisted in the CL final.
@@olekmasidnoz9182 scored on varcadogs heads , scored vs girona and even assisted in cl final .
Then he isn't world class as some people say
I think Kane and Bellingham are world class. That's it. Saka is very good though.
Bellingham isn't world class he failed to prove that in the UCL
Finally some words of wisdom. Barnes knows better than most as England never saw the best of him. If you play Jude deeper then Foden may be effective. Should England beat or draw with Denmark then for the last game play Gordon; Foden and Saka behind Kane or even Watkins. What may help Foden is a player like Watkins making runs in the channels freeing space up. But come on Southgate aint Pep.
Didn't he play as #10 vs Iceland where Jude wants even there? And btw he ghosted the whole game!
Hold on, isn't this the same Phil Foden that was brilliant largely playing on the left wing for several seasons before moving more centrally the season just gone? The same Phil Foden that never turned up for England prior to Bellingham breaking into the squad? I don't think it's where he's playing/playing with Jude and more-so about the England shirt weighing heavy or Southgate not getting the best out of him
Cancelo and ake make runs 😂 foden would drift 😂
Foden needs to deliver when he gets time, you can't keep blaming on Southgate or positions, when he gets the ball he needs to make things happen its simple as that, no more excuses by everyone! Foden whereever he plays he has to do the job and do it well! The player needs to stand up to challenges!
So record top scorer Kane is also average I guess?
The system is bad .. you all trying so hard to make Bellingham the best and golden boy and not being factual
I dont think Gareth Southgate is technically astute enough to solve the problem of playing our best players in a system/formation,unlike Carlo Ancellotti
Just play Jude deeper.. which is where he’s going to end up next year at RM. He played as a 10/false 9 because they didn’t have a star striker. Mbappe and Vini jr will be doing that, with Rodrygo too. Jude is gonna be an 8 who comes from deep to score goals, just like Lampard.
Foden is a fantastic player, more than capable of playing on the left but yeah some truth in that he probably needs to adjust.
John Barnes is so on point.
Bellingham and Foden linked up well first 30 mins or so. Played a lot of one two’s, they’ll get better as tournament progresses.
Should be 4-3-3. Rice, Foden, Bellingham with Kane, Palmer, Saka up front but that might be a bit too advanced for Southgate
Without Shaw on the pitch, you can easily argue 'Go three at the back, play two up front, have two proper wingers/WAMs, Two B2Bs and one holding the fort.' That's the only way I can see fitting both Foden and Bellingham into the same side. Pickford; Walker, Stones, Guehi; Saka, Bellingham, Rice, Foden, Eze; Kane, Watkins.
England will never see the best of any of its players
Tell me how to get rid of Southgate without saying get rid of Southgate...
Cole Palmer plays left and right
but they have a penalty taker
He doesn't play left. That's a lie or you do not watch Palmer, Chelsea or City.
@@thedean4431yes, they have the record goalscorer overall, and record goalscorer in major tournaments.
@@geekylove3603 When you can play with your left and right foot as well as he can you can play anywhere. This kid is a sensational talent and the fact he is not on the pitch is criminal
@@geekylove3603he did off the bench for city
Foden has NEVER brought it for England either on the left or in the middle. The team needs penetration down the left so put a proper winger there. Also Rice needs a strong DM next to him so that he can go forward so no Trent for me.
Your user fits, people like you have terrible memories.
@@Plausible386 I'm happy with my opinion which I have no intention of changing.
@@barryispuzzled okay barry, stay puzzled mate
@@Plausible386 I'm an international puzzle designer. That's the origin of the name. 😏
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How ironic ;)
Seem like that Pep Man City system with 80% possession is where he belongs. He can't manage the directness of international football
Individuals instead of a team, that's the problem. Not to mention so many of our players like the ball to feet. Kane, Saka, Foden Bellingham, Palmer all like the ball at their feet in or around that 10 position. We have nobody running in behind.
They've known long before Bellingham that Foden can't play in midfield for England.
Would it make sense on form to put Saka on left, a midfield 3 of Bellingham, Foden and Rice, then Palmer on the Right against Denmark?
Foden has to be played centrally as that #10 playmaker. He’s superb when he receives the ball on the half turn and sprays passes around.
Bellingham will still have the same impact on the game deeper alongside Rice.
It’s a no brainier!
When was the last time Fodan played centrally at City? Only when Debruyn was not playing.
@@afolabitoye4393u crazy
Y'all were told to sack Southgate before Euros...
John's still got the best rap in the best England song ever made.
He talks alot of sense aswell
Foden has 2 goals in last 32 caps. The excuses for this guy is getting tiresome
When you start realizing that it's never comming home 🏠🏠🏠🏠..
I agree with Barnes. Foden has been played in all foward positions by Pep and has excelled in all of them. We saw him play as a 10 against Iceland and he still struggled regardless. Based on the system Southgate plays Foden will not thrive henceforth he has to bench
Bellingham-Foden is like Gerrard-Lampard debate - Cannot play together !
John is spot on
Totally agree
A lot of stupid people are trying to restrict the face of the project, the best player in the world for Phil Foden. Lol. Who gets pushed out? Someone who’s premier league player of the year? Or someone in conversations as the best player in the world with Vini and Mbappé, and plays for Real Madrid, the best team in the world with the most pressure, and highest standards? Madridistas hate non-perfect players and they all adore Jude. It’s obvious who needs to sacrifice. Look at Germany, they have two 10s and they adapted. Foden needs to adapt to Bellingham because he’s the face of the team and their best player.
Also more importantly, it could be possible that Foden just had an off night. Lol.
Foden is overrated and is getting exposed outside of Man City. Great players are great wherever they play, even out of position. Good players (not exceptional) like Foden can't adjust. English hype as usual. Bellingham has mega hype that upsets people but he backs it up, even when he has bad games, people with ball knowledge see the little things he does to help the team out.
Excellent 🎉
Whose the best player in the World ?
Bellingham is massively overrated too. He done fuxk all for Real Madrid in the latter stages of the season. He scores goal or assists to cover up stinkers 😂
@@olekmasidnoz9182Jude doesn't just score goals you know, where was Vini at the beginning of the season when Jude was winning el clasicos and Girona matches at the beginning of the season? He was La Liga player of the season for a reason, overrated is not the word... 😏😂
Personally think we shouldn’t be playing Kane. He doesn’t offer anything else besides a tap in, need a player almost like Havertz who acts as a pivot for the whole team and can make darting runs
Bellingham has main character syndrome. Hinders Kane and Foden’s game as he wants to occupy spaces available.
You are right, but it's hard to tell him to stop when he's on fire atm while kane and foden are underperforming. I don't think I have seen kane make a run off a defenders shoulder in 4 years!
It's been one game.
We call that best player in the world syndrome. Because he is. Kane will adapt, Bellingham doesn’t overlap much with him. But Foden needs to change it up. He’s gonna need to rediscover himself or else be swallowed by the media like now. And he can’t push Bellingham out of that position.
Then drop jude to accomodate foden
@MungaRaphael-lz3wx you are so right, jude is a black boy, he needs to make way for foden. If we keep rewarding places based on merit we will end up looking like the French squad!😡
Johnny we know it word for word mate. Top top bloke.
Jude wasn't playing against Iceland.... Foden still wasn't good as a 10. people just need to understand that these system players are average when they don't have the system and other players to do dirty work. Foden in Man City system got no responsibility. he get no blame and no pressure. people like Rashford carried his team and blame. Greanlish carried Villa.
Leave kane out put folden in its easy cause more problems up front
Just play 4-3-3 with Bellingham as the 7 and Foden as the 8. Then two wingers and Kane. You’d still have a back four protected by Rice
England can't bring the ball out of the back. Bellingham has to play alongside Rice and Foden plays behind Kane or on the right and Kane plays behing the striker.
Balance wasn't there and kane didn't really touch the ball either, something is not right
Both players like to take up the same space, which does not work. Play Bellingham as 10 and leave Foden on the bench. Play a wide man left and bring back Shaw as soon as he is fit.
Play him in his city role, ffs he was Premier league player of the year playing it 🤷🏼♂️
So you move Saka out of the right? Oh he likes to roam like Jude? So the best player in the world has to adapt to someone who’s worse than him? Bellingham is the face of the England team. Foden needs to adapt.
@@BiggestChungus21Bellingham in your opinion is best player in the world not mine. They are both that good they’d adapt, either could drop abit whilst the other is more forward
Foden has started for city off the left and played well. Bellingham does not stop foden from playing well. Foden just needs to get out of his own head.
I believe Kane is not the right fit for the english striker. Hes the best striker but not the best FIT. Watkins is a better fit imo.
Foden and palmer is better 10 than bellingham
Call me old fashioned but what’s wrong with having two proper strikers up front like the old days so they can work together I would have toney and Watkins with foden behind Gordon on the left palmer on the right with rice and Bellingham in the middle and use Kane as a impact sub as my nan is quicker than him use the wide players to whip first time crosses in or even a cross would nice instead on this short tippy tappy passing on the floor which gets us nowhere then ends up all the way pack to the keeper.our players have no confidence to turn and beat a player and create quick passing football they stand on the ball and pass back.i have watched most of the games and most of the other nations play quick tempo football with the ball hit from one side to the other or down the wings crossing in to the boxes creating chances also hitting shots from outside of the box. we do not do that we want to walk the ball in to the net this style of football has been drummed into them for the last 8 years I think they don’t know how to play any different it’s like they have been brainwashed by Southgate I reckon Pickford has more touches than the rest of the keepers. if Kane is up front on his own then he needs balls whipped across the box not balls passed around the side of the area looking in for a way in to the box only for the ball to be sent all the way back to the keeper
Why not have fodden replace saka after 65mins... Play Gordon jude saka - manno rice
Trent stones grehi gomez
John Barnes hit the nail on the head different players different system at Man City.
We have to supply Harry Kane that's ALL that matters. Playing Bellingham too deep would be moronic too. Having Harry with 3 touches all game is a bad sign. We need pace and width and supply. Or we go home
At last someone talking sense! Well said John Barnes!
Don't aree with this, but they need to be balanced off, Grealish was the man to do it, okay we'd be a bit narrow, but he'd play in the pockets behind Foden and Bellingham is all action he would run the show from no 8. Once Shaw is fit he'd offer width.
Bellingham isnt even a number 10. He's a natural 8.
Play Jude in his actual position and play foden in his actual position.
There's only one man to blame and its Southgate. Has the easiest job in the world
If I was foden I'd just walk out of the camp and go on holiday until Southgate is sacked
I totally agree, this is like the gerard and lampard in the golden generation 🤔. You play one other, that has to jude Bellingham without dought 👍.
Through the media of course
My question to Guillem Balague is Trent neither of fallback nor midfielder what is his position?
We desperately need an old fashioned winger who can take on the full back and cross the ball like a prime John Barnes or Lee Sharpe...we just don't have these any more.
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Rice holding, intercepting, simple passing, Bellingham has the fire and talent to be box to box, create and score then Foden 10 and coming in LW should be Gordon.
Bellingham should be in the midfield to next Rice.
Bellingham isnt a playmaker like that, he's a crash the box midfielder who can get up and down the pitch and score goals. Just because Bellingham plays CAM for Real Madrid doesn't mean he should play there for England. Madrid have the players to hide Judes deficiencies despite what the media says. Foden needs players on the same wavelength.
It's simple Gareth. Players in their strongest position. Bellingham with Rice in middle. Foden in #10 and Gordon/Eze on the left. At least try it for 30 mins!
Even if u bring iniesta on that left wing role nothing will change with d way enlgand play football...man city would destroy this english squad all day long....southgate zero football knowledge
This is all on Southgate, having to direct wingers from either side is not the way to go if you wanna control games going forward an defend.. play Foden in a 4 3 3 an you'll find the balance!
I think he'll grow with the tournament and he'll deliver at a critical point,he's good talent,he's got goals in his boots, he's just lacking Jude's condidence,he needs the gaffers support. English are very impatient, maybe it is due to them not winning anything in decades
I totally agree with big barnsey
The problem isn’t Foden, it’s Southgate. Player of the season, yet Southgate bends over backwards to accommodate TAA, who did nothing. Bellingham just marauds around the pitch as if he’s the only one that matters, it’s supposed to be a team game, not the Jude Bellingham show! There’s no fluidity, no communication, countless times Foden was asking for the ball, making himself available, but just ignored
Facts Bellingham scores goals to cover up his stinkers
Kevin Phillips ex Leeds😍🤩 was treated very bad by pep😬.
Very well said, cannot believe no one else is noticing this
Gvardiol is a left footer John....do your homework
Spot on John! Just bring Foden off the bench, get Jude at 100% for 60 minutes every game.
Barnes talks so much sense
I agree so its Foden on the bench for me.
Certainly wouldn't build a team around him, nobody owes him a living.
Phil is just unlucky he’s in a generation with Bellingham, alot like when they forced Scholes out onto the left and we didn’t see the best of him either. However scholes did adapt somewhat and still had success for england, Foden will have to so the same, if hes world class he will adapt. If he’s not then he’ll have to sit it out.
Bellingham is the Cream of the Crop, periodt. But, that doesn't take away from Foden's quality, I still rate him massively.
Foden is a system player Jude is a free player, Pep turns players into system players, his players. For Foden to shine he must play freely & get the Pep system out of his mind!
Just because Gordon Ramsay can cook a good Steak & Chips doesn't mean I'd play him on the left wing. It's about what you're good at.
You play the best players in the position they play best. Surely that's obvious .... isn't it? Why isn't that obvious? Paul Scholes suffered the same fate with England.
Spot On Barnsy!
Why the hell should Jude take a back seat to accommodate Foden? For 4yrs Foden had many chances and blee them all. He was playing the central against Iceland whilst Jude was resting after the CL and he did nothing. What does that say?!?