Vashtorr: "At last! The path to becoming a true Chaos God is at my fingertips!" *Admech and Necrons start fighting* Vashtorr: "Godhood can wait. I gotta see this."
Correction, Imotekh didn't wake up before the silent king, the silent king never went into stasis. However, he woke up long before the Silent King returned to the milky way after his 60 million years of travel.
Man Ik the models look derpy af, but some of the tech priests in the books are legit badasses. One of the tech priests in imperator: wrath of the omnissiah had a war suit that was basically a massive mantis that he uses to solo emperor’s children marines in melee.
@@Guo1234bob I think that's the most frustrating thing, we could have some amazing characters and models (and tbf we have a lot of great ones) but the Marshall and the TechnoArch are just 'fine', but a bit safe, and the stilt boy is insulting. I think the Manipulus was great but that was still pretty mundane
thats why skatman is so bad its an awfull model, in a faction which has a HUGE amount of incredibly cool things to pull from that for no reason at all arent getting models admech players are being teased with all these incredible things, and then given literal shit and expected to be happy @@Guo1234bob
Lionel Craft, see the symbol of Thelema, Farsight represents real life Khonsu/Chris Evans, the future president of EEUU whos gonna sell us all to a cannibal race known as the Alpha/Kroot. O'Shaserra is Sxarlet and O'Vesa Carmen Sánchez muñoz, Pope Francis Aun'Va. See the symbol of Thelema in Heresy clothes and heraldry of Dark angels, they re the villains of Warhammer 40. Alpharius is Erda/Cachi/The Beast and Omegon is Hunter Biden/Nimrod. They planned the heresy with Malcador/walt disney/Osho/Violeta Komari Bravo. Emperor is Emmanuel/Salomon.
Admech/Necron players: Good Omnisiah! / Good Triarchs! what is happening over there? GW: Superweapons? Players: Superweapons? At this milennia, at this stage of the plot, In this part of the galaxy , Localized entirely In the expansion book? GW Yes. Players: may we use them? (ingame) GW: No. (edit): writing is hard.
With how simply the game is lately, if it was used it would be like this: Super Weapon: Spend all your Command Points and roll a d6. On a roll of 4+, you win the game. If not get f***ed. The end.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 its their turn next year i guess. seems like gw likes to release something first then wait with actually doing anything and then remembering that they were supposed to do something with it the next edition
I wanna see Vashtorr get reworked so he's like an uber-Warpsmith for Daemon Engines. Like, crazy shit. Fuck it, let him give a Maulerfiend an extra 10" of movement, shit like that. He's a GOD. Make him one.
Basically anything would make him better on the tabletop at this point. He might get lucky and smash a vehicle once per game, but he 100% needs to have a powerful repair mechanic to make him worthwhile because both his offensive and defensive rules are lacking. His flamer is a huge disappointment as well.
@@sashmiel6566 Probable because of the headache from the alien chitting noises buzzing in all around. Being highly psychic really doesn't help sometimes. Then again... With how the Eldar conducts their diplomacy, maybe they are not really that smart to figure out bugspray.
@@otaviolobo7989 There's a section about Death Guard fighting Tyranids in 9th ed codex, I forgot his name but there's someone who keeps infecting the tyranids and does a little dmg but then the nids evolve and become immune, he finds something new nids get immune soon but he refuses to share his recipes with other death guard companies
The Slient King just needs to persuade the Jade Overlord to return and whip the Mephrit Dynasty back into shape, he apparently still holds the secret of their ancient star-imploding tech
@@Daemonik i mean, theres is quite a few English accents. I am bad at them, but i think Auspex's is from the south east of the country. Also, he is recording for videos, you annunciate a bit differently when doing that, just to ensure all the words are clear, which matters less in person
@@Santisima_Trinidad His accent comes across as fairly vanilla southern, he certainly doesn't have a strong regional accent at all - though regional accents as a whole are declining quite quickly across the UK according to some research I saw a couple months ago. I was meaning more in relation to his cadence, enunciation and intonation, which I think you're right when you say about it being a "presentation voice". I'd be very surprised if he spoke like that at the pub! Remarkably consistent across his videos though.
It should be fun to read about Cawl getting heckled by Hapthatra and Mesophet while the silent king himself looks on with the thousand yard stare of a man who promoted these two morons a few years ago and has done nothing but regret it ever since. Some real Statler and Waldorf energy, lol.
I look forward to the Silent King meeting Thrazynn. Imagine he just civilly rolls up, tours the museum, has a nice chat with Trazynn and leaves? Meanwhile,Orikan attemps to derail the whole thing as a sour prank but fails in increasingly hilarious ways, inadvertently setting a few interesting lore bits for the other factions in motion? His Majesty Szarek(via a slave): 'A real live Primarch you say, Trazynn, now that would be interesting, I met one once you know..' Trazynn: 'but ofcourse, my most radiant Majesty, allow me to show you!' Meanwhile, Orikan chronomances the stasisfield....
It's so weird how the Pariah Nexus stuff happens now in 10th even though that was what 9th started with. You wanna tell me that we'll see more stuff happening in the Segmentum Pacificus in 11th? I do love this lore though. Admech is being fun and not just rolled over for once, Necrons are being peak AND our boy Vashtorr is back, what a cool setup. It could even be that Guilliman travels here and suddenly there will be a forest in his ship and the Lion arrives, leading to their first meeting
well he actually learned how to make them on a moving ship that can also travel thru Warp and use the homemade Pylons as better shields. But as he said, it takes too much time and too many resources but its still promising.
Vashtorr+Perturabo+Dark Mech HAS to be coming. If GW does not do that, i will forever understand that they do not know how to use their own characters properly
How about just perturabo and dark Mech. Vashtorr shows us that GW doesn’t know how to use its characters. But to be fair GW will bring back perturabo and have him job to some random ultramarines primaris lieutenant.
The Ad Mech being able to go toe to toe with Necrons because they have a LITTLE bit of dark age tech is kinda terrifying, imagine how powerful humanity was in the Golden Age.
12 Excindios (shackled Men of Iron used by the Dark Angels during the Heresy) were able to completely wipe a massive Forge World. Humanity's peak was no joke
Yeah, theres a reason the Necrons waited for humanity and the eldar to blow themselves to kingdom come by fucking with the warp before they woke up, for all their pretensions.
@@mintw4241 There has still never been an example of human dark age tech which matches the necrons peak. Issue is the necrons used most of their technobabble superweapons on the ctan already. Lol.
To be fair, this is big bits of dark age tech. And most of the dark age tech i believe to have been focused on non military stuff, up until the men of Iron went rouge. At that point they kinda had to go full war economy, hence why so much of the dark age weapons stuff is incredibly unstable and prone to causing collateral. It's not missuse, it was never refined to the point of being safe to use, it was just shat out in a desperate bid to stop the men of iron. As for the necrons being ripped apart by it, well, it was designed to fight mechanical monstrosities, and the Neko boys are just that. Although you also must remember that they once had an empire bigger than the imperium, and it was far more efficient. What we see now is just a Tau sized portion of the Necrons, and they have still managed to do this entire pariah nexus thing.
So Admech and Necrons are the focus of the new lore, both with new models and codex. And then Vashtorr appears...which to me heavily implies his 'dark mech' will be the next 'new army' launch...
i don't understand why the pointyboy chaos fans are so eager for dark mech. You'd think one look at how GW is treating the imperial side of the faction would scare them away from wanting to see how awfully they could manage the chaos side.
Easy, you can say what you want about admechs cost and state on the table but it's still gonna be popular because the minis are just too damn good. And I imagine the same will be for the dark mechanicum @@Foxbeep_
@@Foxbeep_ The models are going to outlast any terrible rules that get written for them. It is far more difficult to get better models than it is to write better rules. The dark mechanicum+iron warriors and the eventual return of Perturabo to the scene is what I think is being carefully insinuated.
After this, I don't understand why GW doesn't release the Necron Pariah unit after all these years. Now they can have the excuse to introduce them again, changing just a bit their lore.
They are still out their in the lore, they were relegated to have been the test subjects of at least one to a few low-key necron forces. Most likely ones that had lost their ruling dynasty and were co-opted by the “mega mind” supercomputer running the various cron systems. Hence why they still thought ctan were in charge and why their highest leaders were just lords. So the computer set them to follow one of the directives of finding a cure to the biotransferance limitations.
Necron's experimenting on humans and biotransference. The soul sapping "pariah" effect. It'd be madness to NOT re-introduce Necrons Pariahs. The only reason they weren't popular originally is that taking them effectively ruined your phase out limit in the old rules (I was a Necron player back then and you REALLY had to worry about that phase out limit!). Cool models and lore bring them back!!
I don’t know how I feel about Imotekh, who was built up as a warmonger and is known as one amongst the Necrons is now being shown as a honourable leader while The Silent King, who has shown a lot of honour in past lore and even allowed humans that same courtesy of retreating when beaten is now the crazy evil one. Also, looking forward to seeing what Vashtors doing but afraid of him becoming a cameo character and being overused for the sake of his plan seeming more grand. Otherwise, good shit.
Obviously wrong theory: Szarekh, knowing he would never be able to shed the hatred of some for leading the Necrons to their current state somehow swaps bodies with Imotekh, the up and coming new leader. King's body can't speak (Silent King and all), and the other two members of the triarch who can speak are in on the plan. So all Imotekh can do now is reconquer, now in the Kings body.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Imotekh is just cruising in here to pad his resume by acting all high and mighty and reasonable, as a power play against the silent king who doesnt want the most important pet project he EVER worked on ruined. And even then you can see as the techno abomination usage on both sides grows, Imhotekh begins showing his true colours
Imotekh is pretending to respect the old codes of conduct to look better than the silent king because he knows the silent king can't afford to do the same while fighting a war on two fronts. Imotekh is also just generally a better commander than the silent king since he's explicitly one of the greatest strategists the galaxy has ever seen.
I like to imagine Auspex siting in universe 40k on some vox/radio news show broadcast throughout the Imperium. He just has the voice of someone who has seen all the war and is stoically reporting it.
The mechanical plague that melts things is similar to something in rouge trader pretty important to the plot since it destroys elder ships like instantly
So, they have a giant story about mining blackstone, but chose to not use their new Votann at all? Why did GW bring Votann back, if they do not use them at all? This is not Rock & Stone.
the leagues get multiple shoutouts in the book - being resistant to the stilling due to having insulated themselves from the Warp through their cloning processes they're ransacking any land left free and also working as mercenaries for the imperium on the side.
im so excited to see what vashtorr can get up to, he's my favourite character atm and i am crossing my fingers wishing he gets his own army (looking at that redacted codex in summer)
Great synopsis. This is going to make the Demon codex even more interesting if Vaashtor is in it. His initial profile was, eh, so maybe with a boost, he'll be frightening and could be nasty if he affects the chaos engines/machines too
It will splitt Necrons into civil war, making sure they can not conquer the galaxy even if much more powerful than the empire. But you are probably correct, they will not make any other major changes.
@@wb3159 l know but l want to see the lore work differently. The Lion only beat Angry Ron because it would only banish him for eight weeks, eight days and eight hours. Angry Ron should have beaten the crap out of the Lion. Mortarion should have ended Gulliman. Everything ends up a draw.
I am not at all shocked Necrons can't get a win. Necrons don't extend the Codes of Combat to the other lesser races. They really should not have an issue with their use on humans.
@@levb258 Most Dynasties carry over the old codes of conduct for other Necrons. Even the Necrontyr viewed alien races as lesser and did not extend them the same courtesy.
@@levb258 There are a few weapons that are usually off the table like the Celestial Orrery. In the case of the Orrery specifically, there are implied consequences for using to snuff out stars and planets.
I've always said that DAoT tech could rival Necron superweapons and people always laughed at me. VINDICATION. Also I find it really curious how a Chaos Demon/Minor God is somehow able to corrupt one of the most potent anti-warp devices in lore
Comes down to it being damaged and not radiating the warp stilling field. All they have to do then is undo the negative charge and imbue it with positive charge and it becomes a warp instability device instead. It’s been used in various books as ah-ah moments. Boils down to gw hates Necrons and doesn’t want them to have nice things.
The Celestial Orrery is a necron super weapon, the world engine is a necron super weapon, this is just what happens when you give crypteks a blank check to do whatever the fuck they like.
When practically every codex this edition is considered a disappointment, chances are the CSM codex along with Vashtorr in it will also be one. And this is probably GW's way of "balancing" the factions, in 9th Edition, people complained about certain factions being overpowered, so GW's going to correct it by making them all a little sucky.
Allow me to use the GW crystal ball of lore predictibility, all factions will gain some sort of minor or pyrrhic win. One faction will come close to ultimate victory. The Imperium will then pull mcguffins and preferential writing out the bag and snatch victory away from all other factions, ending the Pariah Nexus sorry line.
You can guarantee that vastor will claim domination in the sector whilst Cawl will disappear and build bridges stitching parts of the rift together allowing the beacon to be felt across both sides. This allowing the split imperium forces to reunite to tackle the Nids. Crons will lose everything in these areas and retreat in a much weakened state, just in time for the next balance update. (Crons always lose for no fucking reason then they are hated by gw).
Hoping the black templars show up since helbrecht has beef with the stormlord if the runours are true that guilliman is on his way to the nexus he may have called up helbrecht
I am calling it now! This is leading to the awakening of Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon from inside Mars. Cawl has been F'ing around alot with forbidden shiz lately and with Vastorr here in real space, Necron's in the fray too. I Really think this might be some big ol necron awakening of some kind,I hope its the Void Dragon. Also Guilliman can go away already, he is jamming his way into every flippin story. Give us stories from other chapters or bring them in at least. Sick of everything being Fists and Ultramarines every story.
Motherfucker we haven't even been involved with anything major in current lore, the fuck are you talking about. If anything, 30k is where we Fists shine. But I haven't heard any stories for us recently except losing gene stock to those motherfucking Iron Jackasses.
wait, how does everyone have time to go fight the necrons in the nexus? I thought the imperium was litterally on the brink of being swallowed whole by tyranids
Really hoping this is leading to some new Vashtor inspired models / new army for 40K. Possibly including FellGors AI machine / daemonforged stuff etc. 🙏🤩
Wait what ? Guilliman is heading towards the Nexus and not to hold back the new Leviathan hivefleet ? Also, gotta love the doomsday weapon escalation between the AdMech and Silent King. Literal galactic MAD triggered there.
Man, everybody wants to _stop_ Chaos; nobody wants to _embrace_ Chaos. Chaos is so fun! It's unpredictable, constantly changing, and there's always something new to try! And you look so cool with your new and ornate armour and mutations. Jokes aside, it's interesting that the Pariah Nexus can stop warp entities. There's always been ambiguity as to how alive they really are. They don't truly die in the Materium. They just fade back into the warp. But it seems to behave differently to life born in Real Space. I do love how Vastorr is a constant threat in the lore, but hasn't matched that on the tabletop just yet. The new codex is going to bring some interesting lore and updates. It's also fascinating to see how fast the formerly stagnant 40K lore has been.
I feel the same for Genestealer Cults... I mean the Tyranids are supreme masters of biological evolution, surely they could adapt the Genestealers to infiltrate the Orks (tyranid spores) or the Eldar (disable the Psychic Tyranid mama's call) or the T'au (there's no excuse to not have these).
The cutting off the warp causing massive death and will to live kind of shows that while warp is evil it basically is the spiritual world of universe, and essential part of life, no demons means no humanity.
That would be the best way to do it honestly, Imotekh is a shit fighter but he's convinced he's a master. Whereas the silent king destroyed an unsundered c'tan in melee, it should be obvious who's winning that fight lmao.
@@AnEnormousNerd You never know, depend on who's writing it, But at the very least I want to see G-Mans warp charged analytical mind go up against an enemy that's more then swinging swords.
Love it. Finaly we see some solid necron action and all the big metal boys are here + finaly seeing admech shine bised just being flavor for humanity...the only thing i hate is that Vashdore is not here by luck, witch means not only that Lion lost him , but probably he's lost in the webway too...was nice have him for a book or 2 i guess, but it also ruins the build up
I feel like all of this action happening in the Nexus is going to do nothing but attract Chaos once Guilliman arrives then Tyranids once they sense like 4 mortal factions in one place
I find it really sad that the Necrons aren't stomping everyone in this region of space. The Silent King is actively fighting here alongside his legions, and some named imperial characters are giving him the finger. I always thought he was on the same tier as the Emperor, not on the same level as a super inquisitor or a chapter master. Its a shame really.
The silent king is getting fucked up by imotekh, not humanity. Not until the admech opened up their stockpile of forbidden doomsday weapons at least. Imotekh is a better commander than the silent king AND he's attacking while the silent king is already fighting a war AND he's forcing the silent king to fight by the inefficient old honour codes or lose face publicly and risk losing the support of the other big dynasties. It's a political masterstroke honestly.
With a webway tunnelling device now in play it can't be long till the Eldar need to get involved in this. A good opportunity for Games Workshop to remember Ynnari are a thing and actually have them do something other than getting spanked?
It has been crazier since Cadia Blew up and Papa smurf returned buddy. Things can only go up. Though I admit im interested in a "Galactic Narrative Break" where every faction suddenly are forced to pause with the craziness to breath a little, and bring back the smaller skirmishes for a little while.
The Inquisitor who freed the Ctan shards is exactly like the Horus heresy beacon who attracted the Tyrannids. JUST .DONT. Also, it could be seen as canon that anything the Admech do Comicly backfire and make everything worse
Welp…this ain’t looking too good for the Skelly bois…😅 Come on Szarekh just make him one of the Triarch. No one can remember the other two’s names anyway. We need to not get steamrolled by the imperium, remember back in 8th edition where we were such an insane existential threat that most people said it was only a matter of time before either the Necrons or Tyranids wiped everyone else out? Those were good times 😂
The oversimplified game gives Spacemarines 10 support characters but we from AdMech get an overpriced (points) sniper. Tau, Eldar, Guard and Spacemarines have a large range of cool forgeworl units. But guess the chaps that ,are' the forgeworlds?!? They get not even upgraded stats for the secutarii Hoplites. Because it would be draining too much human recourses of the company.
Let's hope all this vashtorr shenanigans means they'll buff him properly when codex releases to make him the ultimate anti-vehicle weapon primarch level baddy
I am honestly hoping they do something more woth Vashtorr. All the hype leading to his release only to see a sub par datasheet was hugely dissapointing. Great model and had to get it, but man....they need to actually build something up for this apparently "Important" character.
Vashtorr’s lore: can control nearly every weapon on the rock and unleash them into the enemy. In game: gives +1 S to daemons engines and makes enemy vehicles move slower and lose attacks in combat. WHY GW
God knows, 10th edition book has him running around arguing with rogue dynasties so at least he's still around. It could be cool if the silent king appointed him as the head of the triarch praetorians. Could get an interesting new plastic model out of that.
Was there some sort of error on the Warhammer Community site the other day where the Chaos Daemon codex was meant to go up for pre-order? I'm sure I remember seeing it but the pre-order link didn't work and now all mention of it seems to have vanished.
Make new souls, illuminor Szeras has been trying to figure out how for a long time without success but if anyone could figure out how it would be the necrons.
For really tin foil hat reasons this makes me think Ferrus Mannus could come back. The Necron are trying to move minds and souls between flesh and necrodermis. The end of the Horus Heresy has just had an impossible cameo from Mr Iron Hands himself and everyone seemed to be all over his Skull. In life his body was fused with some necrodermis so I think it is not unreasonable that the stars could align and ferrus comes back. Most importantly we could follow on from shipping Guilliman and Yvraine with shipping Ferrus with The Silent King.
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Vashtorr: "At last! The path to becoming a true Chaos God is at my fingertips!"
*Admech and Necrons start fighting*
Vashtorr: "Godhood can wait. I gotta see this."
Correction, Imotekh didn't wake up before the silent king, the silent king never went into stasis. However, he woke up long before the Silent King returned to the milky way after his 60 million years of travel.
Guiliman entering the sector is going to look like the meme of a guy with a pizza in a burning room.
That guy is Donald Glover and you will put some damn respect on his name!
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"Flee in face of the sheer power of our forbidden dark age technology!"
(...stilt boy awkwardly waddles towards the battlefield...)
Man Ik the models look derpy af, but some of the tech priests in the books are legit badasses. One of the tech priests in imperator: wrath of the omnissiah had a war suit that was basically a massive mantis that he uses to solo emperor’s children marines in melee.
@@Guo1234bob I think that's the most frustrating thing, we could have some amazing characters and models (and tbf we have a lot of great ones) but the Marshall and the TechnoArch are just 'fine', but a bit safe, and the stilt boy is insulting.
I think the Manipulus was great but that was still pretty mundane
@@Gaussian_Bell Yeah, there are such cool things to be done with such excentric cyborgs, even if they just created a doc oc ripoff I would be hyped
@@noxion4143 I've picked up some Green stuff rollers and a Necromunda House Delaque to do just that for some enginseers
thats why skatman is so bad
its an awfull model, in a faction which has a HUGE amount of incredibly cool things to pull from that for no reason at all arent getting models
admech players are being teased with all these incredible things, and then given literal shit and expected to be happy
@@Guo1234bob
An area of space where everyone has been sapped of the will to live? My god, they've created Britain!
I blame the food. Corpse meal is still preferable to British food.
Mmmmmmm beans on corpse starch
*Space Britain
Greggs use corpse starch to make their sausage rolls.😋
Still better than the pig eyelids and arseholes that used to be in them. Soylens viridians, my favourite !
Really surprising to see GW keeping Vashtor in play instead of forgetting about him for years. You know, like that last Eldar Sword, or Malal.
They can’t use Malal, they don’t hold the copyright/usage rights to the name/concept of Malal.
Malal’s role (Chaos defeating Chaos) was eventually repurposed into Belakor after they lost the rights to use him, which happened around Rogue Trader.
Lionel Craft, see the symbol of Thelema, Farsight represents real life Khonsu/Chris Evans, the future president of EEUU whos gonna sell us all to a cannibal race known as the Alpha/Kroot. O'Shaserra is Sxarlet and O'Vesa Carmen Sánchez muñoz, Pope Francis Aun'Va. See the symbol of Thelema in Heresy clothes and heraldry of Dark angels, they re the villains of Warhammer 40. Alpharius is Erda/Cachi/The Beast and Omegon is Hunter Biden/Nimrod. They planned the heresy with Malcador/walt disney/Osho/Violeta Komari Bravo. Emperor is Emmanuel/Salomon.
Admech/Necron players: Good Omnisiah! / Good Triarchs! what is happening over there?
GW: Superweapons?
Players: Superweapons? At this milennia, at this stage of the plot, In this part of the galaxy , Localized entirely In the expansion book?
GW Yes.
Players: may we use them? (ingame)
GW: No.
(edit): writing is hard.
With how simply the game is lately, if it was used it would be like this:
Super Weapon: Spend all your Command Points and roll a d6.
On a roll of 4+, you win the game. If not get f***ed.
The end.
We can't even use the basic HH guys in our AdMech armies. :(
Many of these super weapons sound like they annihilate both sides. So not very useful in game
I'd like to see a model for the technomandrites, they do seem fun
"Explain to me why you need a Celestial Orrey for... 'foliage management'?"
It's so odd to me that Necrons were the launch of last edition, but they waited until now to move this plot forwards.
Atleast it’s keeping them relevent.
@@kahoonatownadventures7529 Yes, so fuck the Tyranids who were supposed to be the big bads now?
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 its their turn next year i guess. seems like gw likes to release something first then wait with actually doing anything and then remembering that they were supposed to do something with it the next edition
@donald2005 11th Edition. "Hey, guys, Chaos are the big bads now, oh, yeah, the Tyranids!" Give me a bloody break.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 at least you'll get to overshadow chaos in their own edition again, that'll be funny.
Now if GW would be so kind as to make Vashtorr actually useful on the tabletop that would be great
At least Vashtorr is tied to a good faction. Cawl, on the other hand, is both useless on the tabletop and has a bad faction.
I wanna see Vashtorr get reworked so he's like an uber-Warpsmith for Daemon Engines. Like, crazy shit. Fuck it, let him give a Maulerfiend an extra 10" of movement, shit like that. He's a GOD. Make him one.
@@im_flat Demigod, to be exact.
Basically anything would make him better on the tabletop at this point. He might get lucky and smash a vehicle once per game, but he 100% needs to have a powerful repair mechanic to make him worthwhile because both his offensive and defensive rules are lacking. His flamer is a huge disappointment as well.
@@datkhornedog899 bro went toe to toe with bela'kor, give the man better rules
The 40k habit of one army leaving a major battle in the middle of a fight for irrational reasons is GW's newest crutch.
It’s got real Fast and Furious energy: We don’t want to resolve this fight so there is an explosion and they have to jump away from it.
With Necrons led by Silent King some major distractions like Imotekh rebellion is needed to happen as to explain why he hasn't wiped the invaders yet.
*Imotekh:* "Our troops are destroying the battlefield! SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!!!"
Yarimazing
wait a minute, a mechanical plague that melts living metal?
nurgle, is that you in that red robe?
or 3 nurglings in a red trechcoat xD
Meh... Nurgle can't even infect the Tyranids (a feat the T'au acomplished first) and you think he would gain something out of this? Nah.
There is something similar in Rouge Trader game
Eldar: Why didn't we think of that?
@@sashmiel6566 Probable because of the headache from the alien chitting noises buzzing in all around. Being highly psychic really doesn't help sometimes.
Then again... With how the Eldar conducts their diplomacy, maybe they are not really that smart to figure out bugspray.
@@otaviolobo7989 There's a section about Death Guard fighting Tyranids in 9th ed codex, I forgot his name but there's someone who keeps infecting the tyranids and does a little dmg but then the nids evolve and become immune, he finds something new nids get immune soon but he refuses to share his recipes with other death guard companies
13:03 BAH GOD! HERE COMES VASTORR WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Atleast the writers didn’t forget about the AdMech
Yet
The writers never forget about Admech, Non imperial factions need to win against someone 😊
Look at the admech codex. They forgot
@@adamshapiro5692clearly the Nexus writers should have done our codex
Yea… but it’s not helpful. Trying to get up a campaign, and the Admech players are not playing Admech cause they so bad 😂
The Slient King just needs to persuade the Jade Overlord to return and whip the Mephrit Dynasty back into shape, he apparently still holds the secret of their ancient star-imploding tech
The imperium is fighting real hard to blow up a sector before the enemy can blow it up for their own goals
it's the principle! we'll look like chumps if we're not the ones to blow up sectors
And while all this happens Leviathan is eating its way towards Terra… perhaps we’ll see that acknowledged in 10 years or so.
It's like the ALpha Legion in the Deathwatch, they forgor
The Tyranid fleets *are* supposed to travel very slowly.
Honestly by 40k scale that's like the blink of an eye.
When everything is a civilization-ending threat: nothing is.
@@ropable yeah, the new lore is a joke
Sometimes I think Auspex Tactics is kind of a cyborg himself because of two reasons:
1. He uploads videos fast and consistently
2. The way he talks
The Dragon of Mars building his following behind the scenes
I think the way he talks is more influenced by the fact he lives in England
@@Eschatonin6666I live in England and know nobody who talks like this...
@@Daemonik i mean, theres is quite a few English accents. I am bad at them, but i think Auspex's is from the south east of the country.
Also, he is recording for videos, you annunciate a bit differently when doing that, just to ensure all the words are clear, which matters less in person
@@Santisima_Trinidad His accent comes across as fairly vanilla southern, he certainly doesn't have a strong regional accent at all - though regional accents as a whole are declining quite quickly across the UK according to some research I saw a couple months ago. I was meaning more in relation to his cadence, enunciation and intonation, which I think you're right when you say about it being a "presentation voice". I'd be very surprised if he spoke like that at the pub! Remarkably consistent across his videos though.
The silent king has to meet Belasarius Cawl soon . I hope . He’s already met Fabius , silent king is next on my list of must have encounters
It should be fun to read about Cawl getting heckled by Hapthatra and Mesophet while the silent king himself looks on with the thousand yard stare of a man who promoted these two morons a few years ago and has done nothing but regret it ever since.
Some real Statler and Waldorf energy, lol.
I look forward to the Silent King meeting Thrazynn. Imagine he just civilly rolls up, tours the museum, has a nice chat with Trazynn and leaves?
Meanwhile,Orikan attemps to derail the whole thing as a sour prank but fails in increasingly hilarious ways, inadvertently setting a few interesting lore bits for the other factions in motion?
His Majesty Szarek(via a slave): 'A real live Primarch you say, Trazynn, now that would be interesting, I met one once you know..'
Trazynn: 'but ofcourse, my most radiant Majesty, allow me to show you!'
Meanwhile, Orikan chronomances the stasisfield....
It's so weird how the Pariah Nexus stuff happens now in 10th even though that was what 9th started with. You wanna tell me that we'll see more stuff happening in the Segmentum Pacificus in 11th?
I do love this lore though. Admech is being fun and not just rolled over for once, Necrons are being peak AND our boy Vashtorr is back, what a cool setup. It could even be that Guilliman travels here and suddenly there will be a forest in his ship and the Lion arrives, leading to their first meeting
"Liminal Abraisers"
So, Cawl *has* learned from Trazyn how to build his own version of Pylons of Cadia after all...
well he actually learned how to make them on a moving ship that can also travel thru Warp and use the homemade Pylons as better shields.
But as he said, it takes too much time and too many resources but its still promising.
Vashtorr+Perturabo+Dark Mech HAS to be coming. If GW does not do that, i will forever understand that they do not know how to use their own characters properly
They don't
@@SarajevoKyoto hahahaha 😂 fair enough
How about just perturabo and dark Mech. Vashtorr shows us that GW doesn’t know how to use its characters. But to be fair GW will bring back perturabo and have him job to some random ultramarines primaris lieutenant.
@@sambarnett6996 I'd be happy with Perty and Dark Mech. 2/3 is a win in my books haha
AdMech: Unleashes Horrors Technological Super Weapons that leaves worlds uninhabitable even for them
Also AdMech: Shoots and hits like a guardsmen
Game: Lasguns and boltguns are the same.
like guardsmen but with fewer friends*
Worse than a guardsman. Guardsmen get bettered when they get yelled at.
@@Sparkyinbozo-xe9fnit strange how order make better marksman than admech data
The death star hitting Alderaan on a 4+, no rerrolls.
The Ad Mech being able to go toe to toe with Necrons because they have a LITTLE bit of dark age tech is kinda terrifying, imagine how powerful humanity was in the Golden Age.
12 Excindios (shackled Men of Iron used by the Dark Angels during the Heresy) were able to completely wipe a massive Forge World. Humanity's peak was no joke
Yeah, theres a reason the Necrons waited for humanity and the eldar to blow themselves to kingdom come by fucking with the warp before they woke up, for all their pretensions.
@@mintw4241 There has still never been an example of human dark age tech which matches the necrons peak. Issue is the necrons used most of their technobabble superweapons on the ctan already. Lol.
I mean the necrons were fighting on 2 fronts, and that's never easy. Look at Germany ww2.
To be fair, this is big bits of dark age tech. And most of the dark age tech i believe to have been focused on non military stuff, up until the men of Iron went rouge. At that point they kinda had to go full war economy, hence why so much of the dark age weapons stuff is incredibly unstable and prone to causing collateral. It's not missuse, it was never refined to the point of being safe to use, it was just shat out in a desperate bid to stop the men of iron.
As for the necrons being ripped apart by it, well, it was designed to fight mechanical monstrosities, and the Neko boys are just that. Although you also must remember that they once had an empire bigger than the imperium, and it was far more efficient. What we see now is just a Tau sized portion of the Necrons, and they have still managed to do this entire pariah nexus thing.
So Admech and Necrons are the focus of the new lore, both with new models and codex. And then Vashtorr appears...which to me heavily implies his 'dark mech' will be the next 'new army' launch...
i don't understand why the pointyboy chaos fans are so eager for dark mech. You'd think one look at how GW is treating the imperial side of the faction would scare them away from wanting to see how awfully they could manage the chaos side.
Easy, you can say what you want about admechs cost and state on the table but it's still gonna be popular because the minis are just too damn good. And I imagine the same will be for the dark mechanicum @@Foxbeep_
@@Foxbeep_Because we could at least get cool looking models
@@Foxbeep_ The models are going to outlast any terrible rules that get written for them. It is far more difficult to get better models than it is to write better rules. The dark mechanicum+iron warriors and the eventual return of Perturabo to the scene is what I think is being carefully insinuated.
Because we will be admech but with spikes and that is enough for us
After this, I don't understand why GW doesn't release the Necron Pariah unit after all these years. Now they can have the excuse to introduce them again, changing just a bit their lore.
They are still out their in the lore, they were relegated to have been the test subjects of at least one to a few low-key necron forces. Most likely ones that had lost their ruling dynasty and were co-opted by the “mega mind” supercomputer running the various cron systems. Hence why they still thought ctan were in charge and why their highest leaders were just lords. So the computer set them to follow one of the directives of finding a cure to the biotransferance limitations.
Necron's experimenting on humans and biotransference. The soul sapping "pariah" effect. It'd be madness to NOT re-introduce Necrons Pariahs. The only reason they weren't popular originally is that taking them effectively ruined your phase out limit in the old rules (I was a Necron player back then and you REALLY had to worry about that phase out limit!). Cool models and lore bring them back!!
But that investment could be better spent making 23 more unique Primaris Space Marine Lieutenants/Captains
Think of the poor investors😢
I don’t know how I feel about Imotekh, who was built up as a warmonger and is known as one amongst the Necrons is now being shown as a honourable leader while The Silent King, who has shown a lot of honour in past lore and even allowed humans that same courtesy of retreating when beaten is now the crazy evil one.
Also, looking forward to seeing what Vashtors doing but afraid of him becoming a cameo character and being overused for the sake of his plan seeming more grand.
Otherwise, good shit.
Imotekh is a master strategist. Im sure he can see the strategical advantage of seeming like the "reasonable side of the necrons" in this conflict.
Obviously wrong theory: Szarekh, knowing he would never be able to shed the hatred of some for leading the Necrons to their current state somehow swaps bodies with Imotekh, the up and coming new leader. King's body can't speak (Silent King and all), and the other two members of the triarch who can speak are in on the plan. So all Imotekh can do now is reconquer, now in the Kings body.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Imotekh is just cruising in here to pad his resume by acting all high and mighty and reasonable, as a power play against the silent king who doesnt want the most important pet project he EVER worked on ruined. And even then you can see as the techno abomination usage on both sides grows, Imhotekh begins showing his true colours
Imotekh is pretending to respect the old codes of conduct to look better than the silent king because he knows the silent king can't afford to do the same while fighting a war on two fronts.
Imotekh is also just generally a better commander than the silent king since he's explicitly one of the greatest strategists the galaxy has ever seen.
I like to imagine Auspex siting in universe 40k on some vox/radio news show broadcast throughout the Imperium. He just has the voice of someone who has seen all the war and is stoically reporting it.
Bold assuption, the metal plague was used against Mens of Iron, or rather MoI are the reason that device was developed in the first place.
It only makes sense that most of the secret weapons retained from the Dark Agewere either built by the MoI, or built to destroy the MoI.
Gosh, I sure hope GW made Cawl a fun and valuable centrepeice model for a well written rule faction at the heart of the 40k narrative...
If Calaban is involved the Lion will show up for sure.
The mechanical plague that melts things is similar to something in rouge trader pretty important to the plot since it destroys elder ships like instantly
So, they have a giant story about mining blackstone, but chose to not use their new Votann at all?
Why did GW bring Votann back, if they do not use them at all? This is not Rock & Stone.
There are actually a few Votann mercenaries that were hired in the book
the leagues get multiple shoutouts in the book - being resistant to the stilling due to having insulated themselves from the Warp through their cloning processes they're ransacking any land left free and also working as mercenaries for the imperium on the side.
Don't worry, Imotekh will just take the right hand of any champion he defeats, but allow them to come back and deal a blow in return.
im so excited to see what vashtorr can get up to, he's my favourite character atm and i am crossing my fingers wishing he gets his own army (looking at that redacted codex in summer)
Ad Mech in lore: unleashing super weapons powerful enough to make the necrons scared
Ad mech on tabletop: wet noodles for legs and guns
Hey, be fair!
Sydonian's legs are dry noodles, otherwise they wouldn't work as stilts!
I really like when you cover lore! It's nice to get coverage on the game's expanding story now that GW is moving it forward
Great synopsis. This is going to make the Demon codex even more interesting if Vaashtor is in it. His initial profile was, eh, so maybe with a boost, he'll be frightening and could be nasty if he affects the chaos engines/machines too
One of the few Ad Mech W’s in lore.
Finally a book where a forge world isnt destroyed and admech need to be rescued by space marines.
This needs to be the way that Dark Mechanicum are introduced. It's the perfect opportunity if they're going to do it
Oh yeah Vastorr recover the key to the Old Ones arsenal since his last appearance?
Silent King : Enough use the Super forbidden weapon
Admech : Did someone say super forbidden weapon ?
Vashtorr: Hippity Hopity i love technology
It will all be a draw.
Games Workshop won't risk any of its big sellers.
Cawl, the Silent King, Imhotep, Vashtorr and Gulliman.
It will splitt Necrons into civil war, making sure they can not conquer the galaxy even if much more powerful than the empire.
But you are probably correct, they will not make any other major changes.
I bet we’ll see Nemesor Zandrekh and Varguard Obryion (I hate necron spelling) die because they were removed from the codex
Well yeah. It’s a table top wargame, the lore is to support that. Not the other way round
@@wb3159 l know but l want to see the lore work differently.
The Lion only beat Angry Ron because it would only banish him for eight weeks, eight days and eight hours.
Angry Ron should have beaten the crap out of the Lion.
Mortarion should have ended Gulliman.
Everything ends up a draw.
@@timothylyons5686 get over it.
And then the Tyranids arrive and- one second GW is banging on their CEOs office i... borrowed
To be honest I too thought the Tyranids would be drawn here as well. Dark Eldar too.
I am not at all shocked Necrons can't get a win. Necrons don't extend the Codes of Combat to the other lesser races. They really should not have an issue with their use on humans.
Is it a code of conduct thing? I thought they just didn't like the weapons being used at all, regardless of who they were used against.
I’m glad I’m not the only one confused by it, they see humans like roaches
Not everyone. Only certain dynasties don't
@@levb258 Most Dynasties carry over the old codes of conduct for other Necrons. Even the Necrontyr viewed alien races as lesser and did not extend them the same courtesy.
@@levb258 There are a few weapons that are usually off the table like the Celestial Orrery. In the case of the Orrery specifically, there are implied consequences for using to snuff out stars and planets.
I've always said that DAoT tech could rival Necron superweapons and people always laughed at me. VINDICATION.
Also I find it really curious how a Chaos Demon/Minor God is somehow able to corrupt one of the most potent anti-warp devices in lore
Comes down to it being damaged and not radiating the warp stilling field. All they have to do then is undo the negative charge and imbue it with positive charge and it becomes a warp instability device instead. It’s been used in various books as ah-ah moments. Boils down to gw hates Necrons and doesn’t want them to have nice things.
The Celestial Orrery is a necron super weapon, the world engine is a necron super weapon, this is just what happens when you give crypteks a blank check to do whatever the fuck they like.
Back in my day, "lore" was just called "the fluff".
Does this mean Vashtorr might actually get some decent rules when the CSM codex comes out this spring?
No
When practically every codex this edition is considered a disappointment, chances are the CSM codex along with Vashtorr in it will also be one. And this is probably GW's way of "balancing" the factions, in 9th Edition, people complained about certain factions being overpowered, so GW's going to correct it by making them all a little sucky.
No, but he might get his own codex in the summer.
This is the 40k I know and love, all out mutual destruction.
Admech has one epic hero who is awesome in the lore and underwhelming and overcosted on the table.
Rooting for you, Szarekh old boy.
Marines: "Daaaad! The Xenos might have a win in the lore again!"
Gw: "Send in the Belisarius PLOTKAI!!!!"
Hope this means we'll get some cool new units from each faction. Hopefully sone major super heavy necron units would be cool.
Come on Dark Mech
Thank you for the lore video 😊
Allow me to use the GW crystal ball of lore predictibility, all factions will gain some sort of minor or pyrrhic win.
One faction will come close to ultimate victory.
The Imperium will then pull mcguffins and preferential writing out the bag and snatch victory away from all other factions, ending the Pariah Nexus sorry line.
You can guarantee that vastor will claim domination in the sector whilst Cawl will disappear and build bridges stitching parts of the rift together allowing the beacon to be felt across both sides. This allowing the split imperium forces to reunite to tackle the Nids.
Crons will lose everything in these areas and retreat in a much weakened state, just in time for the next balance update. (Crons always lose for no fucking reason then they are hated by gw).
@@Docktavion Crons deserve to be a bigger threat than what they are portrayed tbf.
Hoping the black templars show up since helbrecht has beef with the stormlord if the runours are true that guilliman is on his way to the nexus he may have called up helbrecht
I am calling it now! This is leading to the awakening of Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon from inside Mars. Cawl has been F'ing around alot with forbidden shiz lately and with Vastorr here in real space, Necron's in the fray too. I Really think this might be some big ol necron awakening of some kind,I hope its the Void Dragon. Also Guilliman can go away already, he is jamming his way into every flippin story. Give us stories from other chapters or bring them in at least. Sick of everything being Fists and Ultramarines every story.
Motherfucker we haven't even been involved with anything major in current lore, the fuck are you talking about. If anything, 30k is where we Fists shine. But I haven't heard any stories for us recently except losing gene stock to those motherfucking Iron Jackasses.
Thanks Auspex
wait, how does everyone have time to go fight the necrons in the nexus? I thought the imperium was litterally on the brink of being swallowed whole by tyranids
Really hoping this is leading to some new Vashtor inspired models / new army for 40K. Possibly including FellGors AI machine / daemonforged stuff etc. 🙏🤩
Wait what ? Guilliman is heading towards the Nexus and not to hold back the new Leviathan hivefleet ?
Also, gotta love the doomsday weapon escalation between the AdMech and Silent King.
Literal galactic MAD triggered there.
Honestly, I'm drawn more and more towards having my necrons loyal to Imotekh The Strorm Lord
The Silent King never Joined the Great Sleep, he was awake in self imposed exile the whole time.
Man, everybody wants to _stop_ Chaos; nobody wants to _embrace_ Chaos.
Chaos is so fun! It's unpredictable, constantly changing, and there's always something new to try! And you look so cool with your new and ornate armour and mutations.
Jokes aside, it's interesting that the Pariah Nexus can stop warp entities. There's always been ambiguity as to how alive they really are. They don't truly die in the Materium. They just fade back into the warp. But it seems to behave differently to life born in Real Space. I do love how Vastorr is a constant threat in the lore, but hasn't matched that on the tabletop just yet.
The new codex is going to bring some interesting lore and updates. It's also fascinating to see how fast the formerly stagnant 40K lore has been.
I feel the same for Genestealer Cults... I mean the Tyranids are supreme masters of biological evolution, surely they could adapt the Genestealers to infiltrate the Orks (tyranid spores) or the Eldar (disable the Psychic Tyranid mama's call) or the T'au (there's no excuse to not have these).
"Necron superweapons": You mean the standard 10th ed Necron codex?
Poor Admech. Attacking necrons with their current rules is tantamount to suicide.
The cutting off the warp causing massive death and will to live kind of shows that while warp is evil it basically is the spiritual world of universe, and essential part of life, no demons means no humanity.
Would love to see the silent king put down the rebellion not with superior tech. But in hand to hand combat
That would be the best way to do it honestly, Imotekh is a shit fighter but he's convinced he's a master. Whereas the silent king destroyed an unsundered c'tan in melee, it should be obvious who's winning that fight lmao.
G-Man going toe to toe in strategy and logistics vs the Silent King and Imoteck could give him a win for once.
Silent King, maybe. Imotekh would kick his ass though.
@@AnEnormousNerd You never know, depend on who's writing it, But at the very least I want to see G-Mans warp charged analytical mind go up against an enemy that's more then swinging swords.
The imperials will link up and help the necrons beat back Vashtor . He wants dark age tech .
Love it. Finaly we see some solid necron action and all the big metal boys are here + finaly seeing admech shine bised just being flavor for humanity...the only thing i hate is that Vashdore is not here by luck, witch means not only that Lion lost him , but probably he's lost in the webway too...was nice have him for a book or 2 i guess, but it also ruins the build up
Sounds good!
AdMech vs Necron kill team inbound?
Necrons gathering at a planet for a civil war. Vashtorr: so where do i set up my shop so i may gain capital?
Can Chaos just fuck off for a few editions? Cant we just wage war on Xenos in peace every now and then?
I feel like all of this action happening in the Nexus is going to do nothing but attract Chaos once Guilliman arrives then Tyranids once they sense like 4 mortal factions in one place
I find it really sad that the Necrons aren't stomping everyone in this region of space. The Silent King is actively fighting here alongside his legions, and some named imperial characters are giving him the finger. I always thought he was on the same tier as the Emperor, not on the same level as a super inquisitor or a chapter master. Its a shame really.
He is not really actively fighting though. They gave him a setback with Imotekh and not really paying attention to humans at the first.
The silent king is getting fucked up by imotekh, not humanity. Not until the admech opened up their stockpile of forbidden doomsday weapons at least.
Imotekh is a better commander than the silent king AND he's attacking while the silent king is already fighting a war AND he's forcing the silent king to fight by the inefficient old honour codes or lose face publicly and risk losing the support of the other big dynasties.
It's a political masterstroke honestly.
I can't be the only one listening to this, and all I hear is the Beard saying:
"Vashtorr here!"
"Vashtorr battle!"
"Vashtorr happy!"
All hail Imotekh!!
Enjoy the lore videos.
With a webway tunnelling device now in play it can't be long till the Eldar need to get involved in this. A good opportunity for Games Workshop to remember Ynnari are a thing and actually have them do something other than getting spanked?
Guilliman is coming so Yvraine's getting spanked either way ;)
Is it just me, or is it getting crazier out there?
It has been crazier since Cadia Blew up and Papa smurf returned buddy. Things can only go up. Though I admit im interested in a "Galactic Narrative Break" where every faction suddenly are forced to pause with the craziness to breath a little, and bring back the smaller skirmishes for a little while.
Really appreciated, this succinct round up of the latest lore. Thank you.
💜 ... ... Simon
While I love me some AdMech, I really hope for DarkMech this summer. Vashtor is beyond cool.
The Inquisitor who freed the Ctan shards is exactly like the Horus heresy beacon who attracted the Tyrannids. JUST .DONT.
Also, it could be seen as canon that anything the Admech do Comicly backfire and make everything worse
Welp…this ain’t looking too good for the Skelly bois…😅 Come on Szarekh just make him one of the Triarch. No one can remember the other two’s names anyway. We need to not get steamrolled by the imperium, remember back in 8th edition where we were such an insane existential threat that most people said it was only a matter of time before either the Necrons or Tyranids wiped everyone else out? Those were good times 😂
The oversimplified game gives Spacemarines 10 support characters but we from AdMech get an overpriced (points) sniper. Tau, Eldar, Guard and Spacemarines have a large range of cool forgeworl units. But guess the chaps that ,are' the forgeworlds?!? They get not even upgraded stats for the secutarii Hoplites. Because it would be draining too much human recourses of the company.
Hey! Imotekh isn’t an Overlord according to the Codex!
He's a phaeron but it doesn't really matter because no one knows necron lore. Lol.
Let's hope all this vashtorr shenanigans means they'll buff him properly when codex releases to make him the ultimate anti-vehicle weapon primarch level baddy
My Helbrecht model needs some good old revenge against Imotekh
I kitbashed my Imotekh to be holding Helbrecht's right hand. Now I just need to paint it...
I am honestly hoping they do something more woth Vashtorr. All the hype leading to his release only to see a sub par datasheet was hugely dissapointing. Great model and had to get it, but man....they need to actually build something up for this apparently "Important" character.
Vashtorr’s lore: can control nearly every weapon on the rock and unleash them into the enemy. In game: gives +1 S to daemons engines and makes enemy vehicles move slower and lose attacks in combat. WHY GW
Vashtorr better avoid the Silent King and Guilliman with the Emperor's sword or he is going to get dunked.
40k turning into a heavily modded Stellaris run....the circle closes in on itself😂
At times like this I always love to ask, I wonder what Anrakyr is up to right now.
God knows, 10th edition book has him running around arguing with rogue dynasties so at least he's still around.
It could be cool if the silent king appointed him as the head of the triarch praetorians. Could get an interesting new plastic model out of that.
Was there some sort of error on the Warhammer Community site the other day where the Chaos Daemon codex was meant to go up for pre-order? I'm sure I remember seeing it but the pre-order link didn't work and now all mention of it seems to have vanished.
😂 Metalica, one L from a lawsuit
So where are the souls of the Necron race? Weren't they eaten by the C'Tans? How would they ever become living beings again without souls?
Make new souls, illuminor Szeras has been trying to figure out how for a long time without success but if anyone could figure out how it would be the necrons.
For really tin foil hat reasons this makes me think Ferrus Mannus could come back. The Necron are trying to move minds and souls between flesh and necrodermis. The end of the Horus Heresy has just had an impossible cameo from Mr Iron Hands himself and everyone seemed to be all over his Skull. In life his body was fused with some necrodermis so I think it is not unreasonable that the stars could align and ferrus comes back. Most importantly we could follow on from shipping Guilliman and Yvraine with shipping Ferrus with The Silent King.
Man this is just not choas's milllineum
In which book does gulliman enter the pariah nexus?