Fix Screen Tearing in Linux
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2023
- The guide shows you ALL the methods to remove screen tearing. VSync, Monitor Composition, and Drivers that are problem childs.
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Installing vaapi intel graphics driver “libva-intel-driver” or “intel-media-driver” and removing “xorg-video-intel” actually helped.
This has been driving me crazy for years!!! I did not know correct terms to search for solution. Thank You! Thank You!
I've learn a lot from your content Chris. Keep up the good work, really appreciate it! 🙏
I've had flickering issues on my setup since early 22. I got an Nvidia 2080S and use (now) Fedora 37. I gave your KDE and Nvidia tips a go. Rebooted and I've not had no flickering since so ty vvVm sir. Much appreciated. Nice way to start the New Year. Keep up the excellent work. And a Happy New Year to you! :)
Update - Not completely gone but sooooooooooooo much better. I'll deffo take it. Thanks again!
Super useful. I just bought a second Pixio PX277P, literally because I'm tired of how flaky mixed refresh rates and resolutions are with mismatched displays. Armed with more tearing knowledge from your video, it's going to be a butter smooth experience.
Coming here from the article to thank you !
You solved my horrible tearing issue I believed was due to my weak GPU inside my CPU !
👍👍👍
This has been a problem for as long as I can remember and the fact that this is still something we have to do is why I'm going back to Windows yet again.
1:03 I personally have here: "Re-use screen content" for Tearing Prevention and "force lowest latency (can lead to missed frames)" for the Latency setting.
Chris - You are SPOT ON with calling out that ancient xserver-xorg-video-intel package causing problems. Starting sometime after a kernel update in early 2021, my Linux Mint (Debian Edition) desktop would randomly lock up. The system appeared frozen, but not dead, because I could ssh into it, but the GUI was flat-lined. After months of blaming the kernel and trying different versions, I discovered reading the package files one by one that "The use of this driver (xserver-xorg-video-intel) is discouraged if your hardware is new enough (c. 2007 and newer)." Once I nuked it, my system has again been stable as a rock.
PS: Loved your Debian t-shirt!
Wow, this video was super helpful in fixing my screen tearing issue on my Linux machine. The instructions were clear and easy to follow, and now my screen is smooth and tear-free. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information!
4:24 The "Intel" driver is now obsolete. You must now use the modesetting driver, which also has the TreeFree option that was added recently.
Great topic Chris! Been delving into some of this myself lately. I use picom since im on Arch/i3 and want some great control and really dont need too much in the way of dragging....i mean I just tile.
I have another interesting question. How to force the fonts to reload and recreate them after changing the geometry of the monitor's orientation, e.g. by 90 degrees. After using the xrandr command for different types of managers.
Tested Ubuntu(wayland) on laptop w/ Ryzen APU and found zero screen tearing issues. Very efficient configuration and I am so far very happy with it.
This is one of the reasons I sucked it up and just went Gnome/Wayland. No screen tearing, just buttery smooth like Windows and macOS. No matter what settings I tweak under X11 it is never as good as Wayland out of the box. You would have to pay me to go back to X11 these days 🤑
Same. I switched to Ubuntu with Gnome/Wayland after *years* of being a Mint/Cinnamon fan because of this one issue. Thing is I watch a lot of video on my laptop and with X11 I was always having to find tweaks and then often find new ones after an update. Excuse the phrase but Wayland *just works*. The only issues I have are with a couple of applications that don't play nice with Wayland. But I live with a few quirks for things I don't do all the time for the sake of super smooth video.
@@PaulMason99 pretty much the same reasons for me. I can put up with one or two annoying apps if it means my whole system is smooth and a joy to use that doesn’t need me to bug fix often.
I just need Wayland to not be atrocious for gaming and then I can possibly switch to Linux full time. X11 is a hot mess with mixed refresh rates, Wayland just handles it like Windows, seamlessly and buttery, but it falls apart when you run games (or at least it did last I gave Linux a go in 2021)
@@digitalbarrito3555 1-2 years is a massive amount of time when discussing a project with as much development going on as wayland. If you're using a VRR monitor and amd wayland is likely better for gaming now. Using VRR will disable vsync and should offer lower latency than x11 without any tearing.
@@quasigod1083 I don't use AMD, and the last I tried Wayland wasn't better for gaming.
Huge part of the problem for me with Linux is the amount of research and tweaking it can take to just get something to work as you'd expect it to. Not a fan of rolling the dice on whether or not things will work the way I expect them to.
will this work on like screen mirroing bugs i dont have any screen tearing on my laptop but screen mirroring via vga doesnt work on x11 sadly so i am using wayland currently but kde or gnome is heavy so its a struggle to use it
Hey chris, your thoughts on nvidia killing gamestream? If i recall correctly you make heavy use of it. Thanks!
Happy new year hi Chris I seam to remember you talking about setting up a debian mirror on your server, just wondering if you made a video about this if not are you and perhaps you could use a raspberry pi (headless)as a local mirror for your debian install to make installing debian quicker and updating pc.
Dude, thank you so much, you save me from the pain, omg...
Just a bit skeptic : tearing also depends if on X11 or Wayland no ? You dont say at the beginning of the video.
I remember on my 1070 I had a lot of tearing issues, on my 3070 I actually havent had any tearing issues at all. I used to have to turn on "force full composition pipeline" but now its not tearing at all (both were on GNOME)
Yep. Always been my fix too for Nvidia cards too
Honestly, I fixed tearing completely by switching to Wayland. It is not perfect, screen sharing works well only with updated apps (with pipewire), so in Discord it still mostly doesn't, screen recording also needs some setup, and most VNC servers don't work with it either.
But otherwise all the tearing is gone, and you also get much better inputs support, gestures, scaling can be better to.
I can't see Force full composition pipeline on my settings no matter what :(
Thank you for this video
My compositor seems to be Compton-TDE. I cannot find a way to change settings for it. And I am advised against replacing it on the Q4OS forums.
Sadly the AMD method has caused my TDE not to want to start up. Claiming it can't find a display. I noticed a comment mentioning to replace the spaces. I tried that, but no difference. Once I delete the 20-amd.conf file it boots fine again.
If someone could help me out with the conf file or changing the compositor, that would be great.
Hey hey Chris. How to fix mouse upside down in kali Linux. Screen working normal only misuse cursor and its setting upside down. And how add touch screen driver
Much beter on my nvida thanks!
Thx for share !
Love this video
I mostly didn't notice any screen tearing (maybe because I use it on small screen) but maybe enabling wobbly windows and magic lantern animation could hide it....
I like Wayland but the ecosystem isn't ready yet, I still use X11 (dwm) and ocasionally I run Wayland for gaming.
my screen tearing only happens in overwatch, the other games or on my desktop are fine. does that basically mean ur grafik card is getting bad bc i have mine for like 3 years and its used... and i didnt had it before only 1 year before it started
7:00 what happened here? It was a bad config and you skip it?
I don't get it, why did you skip it? How did you fix it afterwards? Did you ever fix it?
So what was wrong in the 20 amd conf file that caused the boot to hang at 6:15 ??
Yeah, he never answers that
you just need to install an X11 AMD package. It's xf86-video-amdgpu and xorg-X11-drv-amdgpu on fedora. After installing it, it works
ty, having this problem rn
i love your videos :)
Thank you @Chris for the helpful tip.
I realized that this is part of the reason Linux on the desktop will never come close to even beating Windows is because things that should be resolved within the drivers require users to get into the command line. I'm not saying that it's hard to do, but for the ordinary and even experienced folks, it kinda gets annoying to get to the terminal or some software (like in Windows sometimes) for every other fix.
Most people just want to boot their computer, get work done or get entertained, or just browse the internet and leave all the advanced stuff for the OS to handle in the background through updates. Fixing any OS, be it Windows, Mac OS or Linux wastes a lot of time. Time is very precious nowadays.
Wayland has been the biggest improvement for me and better gaming performance
The fact that we still have to deal with screen tearing issues on Linux like 20 years past is really embarrasing
would like to see all cases included in that video. you just read out loud the archwiki pages
what about intel+nvidia hybrid optimus laptops? None of the methods work in this configuration. It is the real challenge that nobody ever covers for some reason that I don't understand
Could you maybe also get over the scenario intel+nvidia dual GPU setup like in many notebooks? Because there won’t be any Xserver settings inside the nvidia-settings gui … couldn’t solve this so far :(
What I had to do was create a desktop file in ~/.config/autostart to turn forcefullcompositionpipeline on after every boot via the CLI. I don’t know if it’s the “right” way, but it works.
I fixed my screen tearing issue on dual gpu Acer laptop by simply switching my Nvidia GPU to on-demand mode in nvidia settings
My media streaming mini PC on the TV has tearing issues, and its noticeable on most OSes, i am using mint 20.3 for now and still has microstutters, i thought my device was a niche case where something is disruotpting linux support to make it work bad, because on windows was fine but slower, and for the usecase, too unesserary resourse usage for me to still consider. This video might help on that or mb i switch to wayland, though also before i had EndlessOS installed and it was also bad..
These are all settings. Why is this not automatically configured correctly? I bet you can benchmark this.
Hey Titus! How to fix hyprland screen annotation and screen sharing problem...? What to do in order to fix Wayland display compositor issue ...for example gromit-mpx doesn't work on hyprland...
This trouble realy deserves a separate video...
only problem with Nvidia's "Force Full Composition Pipeline" is that it disables the ability to do adaptive-sync for games and such
Love to see all those bookmarks and extensions. Gives the browser some life . lol
2023 and we are still talking about screen tearing on linux!
You didn't really solve the issue with the AMD xorg settings. I had the same issue doing "grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log" showed me that I was loading both amdgpu and radeon drivers. Removing the radeon_drv seems to have fixed the problem. Now it is "smooth" sailing!
What is the cost of enabling Force Full Composition Pipeline in nvidia?
Did you find something? I think the cost, is the whole display will now be rendered with nvidia cards, wheras earlier it was done with the inbuild monitors rendering cards.
Hi! I'm new to Linux and for the time being I installed Ubuntu 23.10 while I get more familiarized with Linux overall. I need help because I haven't found a solution for my issue. My main monitor goes up to 165.01Hz refresh rate, but anything above 60Hz makes my display to start flickering like crazy (59.95Hz really, as it appears like that on the Ubuntu settings). I don't have screen tearing issues, at least not noticeable, but this flickering thing has me crazy because I want to be able to use my monitor at max refresh rate and on Windows I have no issues at all, the screen works perfectly at that high refresh rate, so it is a Libnux thing and I haven' found a solution. I have an Nvidia card, RTX 3080 and my processor is an AMD 5800X3D, but Ubuntu installed all the necessary Nvidia drivers for me so I don't know what else to do. Please help, and thanks in advance. 😥😥😥
I`m going through a similar issue... Still no solution.
Good stuff
WIll this fix Q4 wine flickering NBA 2K 23?
Already i have some solve this problem. now i have learned more information. i have two monitor and 1 monitor connect with NVIDIA card and another connect with mother board so i can't solve perfectly. My think if you connect two monitor with gpu , it will be good perfomance
Changing the settings in nvidia-settings fix it for me.
I have AMD, so I'm still stuck. Wayland being fully integrated on all desktops can't happen too soon!
Thanks for bringing this annoying old package, has put me off x11 for the past few years using intel integrated graphics, I've started to rice out my openbox again :)
How do I locate the config file? I try what he did and it just create a new file
Then you don't have the file.
In the last, at least, 3 years I haven't experienced any kind of screen tearing. Before that it was a huge issue.
I wonder, will we ever be able to remove screen tearing without getting a lot of input latency.
use a high refresh monitor. in nvidia-settings i've disabled vsync, which also disables it in the compositor. so for my 240hz monitor it's good. for the 60hz tv this computer also runs to, i have the force full pipeline option enabled so i get no tearing.
as a side note, with my current system the compositor isn't respecting full screen apps. by which i mean leaving them the F alone. so i have to disable it when launching a game. i set a keybind. (ez in kde just search "disable compositing" in shortcuts)
i didn't need to do that in opensuse tumbleweed, nobara, or arch. now that i'm on debian sid i do. it's either because it's using an older nvidia driver or because i decided to use flatpak for steam and lutris for this install and flatpak isn't interacting with the compositor properly. i dunno. point is YMMV depending on configuration.
I am all on Intel CPUs with onboard graphics, any idea how far back it goes before you need that problem package?
It is basically for the old 815 chipset, from the pentium III days aka the year 2000, it stopped being used around 2007. So if your hardware is newer than that, you have no need for it. 915 driver is and has been the linux driver for 20 years or so. Intels website still lists it as the go to driver, and is the one that is updated by intel regularly.
@@Bruce.ItsYourPC so basically anything 64 bit should be fine to remove the problem package
@@javabeanz8549 Not necessairly as 64bit cpus were implemented around 2003 and the 815 chipset was in use until 2007. But my guess would be that you are certainly safe to remove it unless you are running 20 year old hardware. It can always be re-installed if you need to.
@@Bruce.ItsYourPC Sorry, I don't really count the Itanium. Core 2 Came out in 2006, so some very early models made need it. My stuff I think is all 9xx or newer chipsets, as my oldest machines are Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad, but mostly I have i5 and i7 4th Gen and newer.
@@javabeanz8549 Uninstall it, you don't need it, and to be honest the distros that include it shouldn't.
The simple solution I do to fix screen tearing most of the time (I usually use Nvidia cards) is to use the proprietary drivers from Nvidia instead of the default xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
Please, make video how to enable hardware acceleration in apps like vscode
Me video indeed
yeah, this was reason, why I leave linux and go back to win.. I cant solve tearing with my nvidia card :(
The 20-nvidia.conf file that Nvidia-settings creates in xorg.conf.d after setting ForceFullCompositionPipeline causes the system to boot to a black screen, and I have to pull up a tty to rm the xorg.conf. And, of course you need the xorg file for the changes to persist on reboot. The alternative for me was to create a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart with the following exec line:
Exec=nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
Not sure why the xorg.conf file didn’t work, but I verified that autostart file does work in the nvidia-settings GUI as Force Full Composition Pipeline was checked.
@6:16 Xorg wouldn't launch because of a syntax error on line 2. It should be just "AMD" not "AMD Graphics"
My Nvidia must be too old (GeForce GT 520M), I dont get that option, thanks for showing anyway.
I tried that for Rx 550 and got the same fail..
Never had an issue with Pop OS.
Thank you, It helped alot wasted about 1 day in it found the solution. NVdia sucks........
there is no xrandr in manjaro
You need to try OpenBSD to see what screen tearing nightmare is. Love the system, but man my eyes hurt. Lot's of mess around and never enough untearing.
is that even an issue ? I don't know till now
1:36 Cris doesn't understand the concept of refresh rate, or is it me who gets it wrong
Compton is deficating itself as well.
If you’re here and using KDE Plasma and are at your wits end, my issues all disappeared when I went to cinnamon.
OMG I had no screen tearing until you told me so :-D
Do not use force comp pipeline if you are gaming it causes stuttering
Ye only the left option, not full force
add x config file for intel solve my problem
step 1 : use wayland
Seriously, even with a rolling release, on Nvidia, using KDE, wayland works absolutely fine. Some tools don't support it yes, but for the vast, VAST majority of users that isn't an issue and alternatives are quickly being developed. Even when there IS a display issue, by setting "#!/bin/bash
killall plasmashell&&kstart5 plasmashell" as a shortcut in KDE I can manually restart my plasmashell if anything does actually go wrong which, again, is exceptionally rare.
I'm on KDE with a 3070 Ti and wayland is completely broken. X works perfectly fine.
The Linux Experience in a Nutshell: "Use this, changes your life" "Tried that, ruined my life" xD
@@defranken did you turn modeset on?
>gayland
>kde
Lol
Part of why I stopped trying to give Linux an honest shot at replacing Windows is because of how god awful mixed refresh rate support is on Linux compared to Windows. In Windows, it just works. In linux it's a mess and not worth the headaches imo.
This AMD config is bad. It actually force X11 to use the specified driver no matter what. That means if you will decide to run your system with non-amd GPU (replaced your GPU, switched to Intel iGPU, trying to run your system on another PC etc.), it will break X. I don't know why it is populated this way everywhere.
Right config looks like this:
Section "OutputClass"
Identifier "AMD GPU"
MatchDriver "amdgpu|radeon"
Option "TearFree" "true"
EndSection
It matches the driver first and won't break X if you run incompatible GPU.
Hey Titus please make a video on screen tearing issue in windows 11
There is no screen tearing on Windows since at least XP days (probably earlier) if you have a GPU driver installed, lol.
It only happens in KDE to me so i dont use it
i fixed the screen tearing but then it broke hardware acceleration in Firefox 🤦
I don't have screen-tearing on Linux. AMD+FreeSync-monitor for the win.
That's what you get for running Ubuntu
Ive using debian 12, after it goes into sleep mode, screen blinks constantly every 30-40 seconds, please help
I legit copy pasted the command from your website and my screen got completely dark. Had to reinstall nvidia drivers :D thank god I had another monitor
I'd really care about screen tearing if I spent all my day moving windows around and looking for "problems". Who does that?
I never cared in the Bad Old Days (tm) when (looking back) I did have screen tearing and I don't care much more on my newest PC which doesn't have tearing with an out-of-box config.
Why are some people in the comments section calling screen tearing a show-stopping level problem?
I'm asking as an old fart who doesn't understand what all the cool kids are upset about.
Honestly I've never had any noticeable tearing issues... not once in 15 years...
Maybe you're used to it by the time. LOL
please help me with one thing. I have a samsung notebook with ubuntu 23.04 and I have 2 external screens and 1 which is the notebook itself totaling 3 screens, however I do not use the notebook screen, I use it closed and I use the 2 external screens a 22 inch lg and a portable screen 2k of 16, however I do not know if any configuration what I face today is every time I restart the notebook it does not come to me on the secondary screen, it only comes on the main screen of the notebook and I have to keep opening the notebook all the time to type a password. when I used UbuntuDDE it didn't have that. when i rebooted even the boot screen came on the secondary monitor. I don't know what else to do to solve this. Has anyone ever experienced this?
Do not enable force full composition pipeline on modern nvidia cards, it will completely tank your performance.
So you show the AMD config, it doesn't work, and you just skip over it...?
openSUSE Tumbleweed running on three machines with intel chipsets/graphics, not one of them has the xorg intel package installed. Not a single one of them. The statement that no distribution has gotten rid of it is a wild claim and simply misinformation. Unless you have installed and run every single linux distribution available, and checked each and everyone of them for this package, then perhaps you should rephrase your statement, limited to the few distros you have run and checked. I have been using linux since 1996 and have yet to meet someone who has run every linux distro available.
good idea is just turn off the compositor , and disable are all animation from Desktop effects , trust me all tearing problem solve
You can't write for this kind of comedy :)
1. Nvidia has horrible linux support... See : you have to click a checkbox in gui. All's done.
2. AMD with GREAT linux support: messing around with root privils in X conf files, pasting cr*p from some website... GUI burns and dies on startup :) Just MAYBE, edit this part out....
There's a system file you can edit that fixes screen tearing on Ryzen.
Yeah but all this solutions introduce latency, while on windows since vista there is none. Dragging windows around is most noticeable, they lag behind cursor. And that about gameing, now you are forced to play with vsync on all the time... Linux...
That sounds like a misconfiguration. The steam deck is the best representation of what gaming on Linux CAN be like. The problem most of the Linux folks miss is they say it is the best for everything or that gaming is better. While it can be in certain configurations, I still say Windows is the best for gaming in the general population. The big issue is the hardware and software config being setup correctly.
Of course it is, hardware is more than capable and has been for decades now. Haven't tried steam deck but I hope distro devs give this some attention and configure distros with good compositors out of the box in the near future. It is must have feature, but has always been problematic...
This is not true. The settings he changed are related to the compositor which is disabled when gaming. Also, if you have a monitor with VRR support you can have zero tearing with low latency. Windows also only has low latency if you use VRR or disable vsync, causing tearing just like Linux.
So like what, r u saying that this is like a Linux issue or something? 😁
Switch to Wayland. Duh.