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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- As a power user, switching to Linux is HARD. However, here are some of the problems I encountered and how I overcame them.
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I think chris is a secret anti desktop enviroment agent, just look at the photos he choose to show gnome and kde
then, samsung dex should be your solution. 😂
A tad on the older side
Broooo those felt like a flashbang 😭😭
Nah.kde and gnome just the most popular ones.
their do look great now, but still bug all of the time, still prefer xfce or lxqt :v
“OS Age : 36 days”
I’ll check back in a year.
2025: “OS Age : 36 days”
How do i see OS Age? Any help?
@@ZihadGo use the command "uptime"
@@iusearchbtw69 uptime doesn't show os age. It shows how long system running without reboot
@@ZihadGo man you're clearly unfamiliar with shell scripting
"it never changes and it always works." You mean until you break it again. 😂
"you never have to worry about it breaking" while running a rolling release distro
Well, technically speaking, he's not entirely wrong. If you know what you're doing, if you don't install too much bloat on your system (packages you never end up using at all, or something like that), and if you properly maintain your system, you can pretty much run it forever with very little to no issue. It's all about not doing anything too crazy with your system, be careful, and maintain it properly
@@PhoenixStarYT Kernel update can easily break something, especially on a rolling distro. No way around it except not updating at all.
Sure I've been using opensuse Tumbleweed for less than a year and I've had to reinstall it more than 6 times.
@@johncombo Which is an inherent problem in monolithic style kernels. Im waiting on RedoxOS to mature more, (wish the redox dev would have chosen the SeL4 kernel)
he means it's not going to be xorg that breaks. You can run the same stuff he does on debian
Opus ...
I have learned something today
aye my other favorite Linux youtuber, both of you should do a collab
@@sebastiangonzales46 I second this!
@@sebastiangonzales46 I third this!
yup, opus is one of the best lossy audio codecs out there.
this youtube video is using opus right now
@@Treeman3 Yeah until you try to use Opus in an DLNA Environment that supports just ACC or AC3 :)
I can agree with your video 100%. It takes time to actually "know" what you will and will not use in your system - but once you have a routine and a suite of tools you trust - your Linux installs become minimal and powerful!
But we all know we cannot recommend stuff like this to newcomers as it would ruin their experience
What do they use? A word processor, a web browser and Solitaire. Everthing else is "power users".
@@DJDocsVideos This is exactly what I use lol. Thunderbird, LibreWolf, Notepad++, Solitaire and Rommé. That's all I have installed and that's all I ever need. Everything else is nonsense to me.
This is the reason why I still spend most of my time in Windows, something around 80 or 85% and the rest on Linux. I consider myself a power user, I'd been a Windows Server, VMware and Citrix administrator for 15 years until I moved into an IT management role. I have a home server running Debian 12 but my main workstation and desktop computers are both running Windows 10 due to the easy of configuration. I just simply don't have the time to investigate every single issue that Linux currently presents to me, I need to use my computers for work, I don't have the luxury of having spare time to search for workarounds, test them, search for more alternatives when those workarounds don't work as expected, and so on. I barely have time for entertainment when I'm at home and I don't want to spend that time trying to fix things either. I still installed Linux on my parents PC as, like Chris said, it's suitable for people who only use their computers for casual, online tasks such as reading the news, checking emails or the weather, shopping, etcetera.
100% i got older and don't have time to tinker all weekend or week night with linux driver or configuration issues. been there, done that, got the t-shirt! windows with WSL2 is good enough for me now!
Not only that but also the security issues phenomenon is also reversed - Linux is now a rabbit hole. Windows Operating System is now more secure than your typical Linux Distribution.
A computer that's connected to the internet is pretty much USELESS today.
If you have the wrong Linux distro,
Then of course you're going to
Have issues.
@@jschenardWHAAAAT??? Please explain how did you come to this assumption.
In fact I'm a power user and I'm trying to use Linux as my daily driver for years. I don't have time to deal with many problems Linux has, specifically with application compatibility and drivers issues. I am right now reinstalling my copy o Windows 11 removing any Linux thar has on my Nvme. Will stick to WSL for whatever I need on Linux.
We need more videos like this to be honest. the more these pain-points get exposed, the more likely they are to get fixed later down the line. and if work-arounds exist, they might get highlighted too. That's all everyone really wants at the end of the day, right? To make linux a better experience today/tomorrow than it was yesterday? Well.. I'd like to think so anyways.
I'd rather have pain points from people who are not power user. These kinds of videos from Linux channels happen about 12 times per minute and it's always the same thing over and over...Usually with people that use some sort of tiling manager.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino if all you find are linux videos from power users, and you yourself aren't a power user, and you want videos from non-power users to exist. . . consider making videos yourself? You feel there is a vacancy, so fill it. Just an idea. 🤷
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that even if someone nailed the Ninety-Five Theses to the door of the GNU church, the Linux community would become defensive, deny reality, declare that GNU+Linux is perfect and refuse to improve it's biggest issues. Linux community is the biggest detriment to the widespread adaptation of the Linux desktop. The worst part, they think it's a good thing and that Windows users should just adapt to all the issues they've learned to live with, and as a Windows user, I'd rather do the same with Windows than deal with the Linux community.
@@supra107 Just try to remember that while those types are very loud, they are in fact the minority of users. They primarily are found in the gentoo community from my experience. You'll find a few in the arch community too, but it's mostly the gentoo community as a whole.
@@imzesok In my experience, saying that it's just the Gentoo crowd or the Arch crowd or some other marginal group is a cope. If they are a fringe minority, then either the true Linux community doesn't do their due diligence to show the true welcoming side of the Linux community, or it's simply not true and it's a fringe majority. You can go under any comment section of a video or an article or whatever talking about Windows issues and chances are you will find a smug Linux user telling people they should use Linux. Like a vegan smugly stating they eat vegetables only or a cyclist stating that he's not polluting the environment by cycling. This is the image of the Linux community that I know because it's the one that I see the most, so if the true Linux community truly is an understanding, open and helpful community, they should work on improving their image to be exactly that.
At the end of this video (and elsewhere of course) you said something important: People who try Linux and run into some problem, stop there. I think this is because they have learned from Windows or macOS that there is nothing the user can do about it. With Linux, one must change their way of thinking completely. Help is available and most often there is another way to accomplish the same thing.
I guess that's why I've been fine with Linux, because even on Windows I've been a tinkerer for years, getting some games that have issues to run better, changing things about Windows itself, going into hidden settings, going into the group policy editor, going into the registry, because I can't stand the Windows defaults, and sometimes some Windows default setting combined with some games and the gpu drivers can cause problems, like Windows thinking the gpu driver has crashed and killing the process just because a game has a spot where the gpu winds down alot for a minute, super annoying, but changing the tdr window so it waits slightly longer before killing the process fixes this issue, whilst most people I know would just blame the game or Windows and stop playing that game.
I see it as a challenge to change things they don't want you to change, to change things they don't give you easy access to, to fix things other people think are hopeless.
Of course things are quite a bit different on Linux vs Windows, but I feel already being a tinkerer pushing boundaries on Windows is the best mindset to have if you want to switch to Linux, because you already do not assume everything will work the way you want it to, you are already prepared to tinker with the system and figure out ways to make it work as you want it to, that mindset I feel is helping me work with Linux now.
Either that, or you post a forum question about the problem and get a hailstorm of insults from the toxic community.
You doing dirty by showing those old screenshot 😂
i guess they are from the last time he really used a DE indteasd of a WM on Linux. KDE and especially Gnome have come a long way since he left them.
@@k00bly26 have they though? Just trying to configure sddm from the settings now results in a completely broken sddm for me and getting kicked into tty. At this point I'm convinced both gnome and plasma just need to die if we want the Linux desktop to actually work.
@@donkey7921 Ugh no. We need simple to use desktops for the everyday computer user. I can't imagine my parents trying to use a window manager, but they can't tell the difference between KDE, GNOME ( with extensions ) and Windows, it's all the same for them.
@@donkey7921As much as I hate gnome, they are the only properly polished desktop environment with consistent UI standards. That kind of stuff matters, because first impressions are more important than how actually useful or powerful the software is. Do people actually want to use your software? Well, you have to make it look inviting them.
@@MrGamelover23 im hoping cosmic will change that!
It is very true, Linux isn't all sunshine and rainbows, and everything working...
But, once I got everything working under Linux, I started to do the same thing under Windows as well, and realized that I often had to spend time tinkering, searching out solutions there as well, and when I accounted for that...
They BOTH weren't sunshine and rainbows...
And this is called "procrastination."
Some truth there, though with this current linux config, he'll never have to deal with the tinkering again. There's no win12 (errr um sorry, no win10/11 update) to come along and force a new tweak(s). And if he was on a more stable distro, the move between KDE/Gnome versions would probably have been more smooth. Though then he likely would have lost some game compat... so building own DWM for the win.
That's the cold hard truth. Both Windows and Linux have their own subset of problems you need to deal with, and both have different strengths and weaknesses in specific applications. Windows is great as a desktop OS, Linux is great as a server OS, or as something like Proxmox for virtualized servers. However, only one userbase insists that their OS of choice is perfect, has zero issues, that everyone should move to it at an instant and that it's just like the more popular option, only to then start being all defensive and deflective once people encounter the myriads of issues they've taken for granted and accepted as something normal that doesn't have to be fixed, at the detriment of the users of the more popular option that are desperately looking for an alternative as their OS of choice is getting worse and worse.
Here's the secret for linuxland: set the bar low. I run a similar system as what Chris is running now (rolling release distro with openbox instead of DWM) and fully share his experience aside from the gpu: my AMD7000 card is running great.
Now don't get me wrong. The learning curve is steep. But now that I'm there, it's turned into a nearly painless situation and I have zero desire to switch things up (be it distro or overall config).
Where I DO see folks having trouble is the wayland/pipewire crowd (though again, my pipewire is running great). If you want to "bleeding edge" things, then yeah you're gonna have a rough time.
Overall, it certainly is a panic-filled scenario right now. Thanks, microsoft.
This video is a masterpiece. Simultaneously showcasing both the PEAK of Linux systems and the worst part which is we're not CTT to do all of that 🤣
I love it.
chris titus is the type of dude who uses a 1500$ xeon very casually
Casual Desktop using 26GB / 64GB in RAM
@@aopen130 "I paid for all the RAM, I'm gonna use all the RAM"
@@aopen130 probably vms running in background
@@thatoneguy385 I had to go from 192gb to 96gb because the performance decrease was very noticeable in latency sensitive applications. FPS went from ~290 to 200. Was shocked 4 dual rank dimms tanked performance that far. Slight decrease from the 128gb I had before, but not "painful". Going to 64gb would be a massive pain with how much stuff I have running. Page file would get hammered. Good thing I run optane though. One day I'll drop $2k on that gen 2 optane.
Desktop Linux greatest strength and biggest weakness is that almost nothing is standardized. Just the fact that there are different audioservers, display servers, package managers, init systems, c library implementations(!), ... . It can be great if have the time and motivation to learn all of that stuff, but it creates so much issues when it comes compatibility and just downloading something and expecting it to just work.
I really think its for those "powerusers" like me that are in the top 50 - 99% of computer literacy that struggle with this. If you are in the bottom 50% and need a browser, music player and email client, you never have to deal with this, but if you need more niche software or use some non common hardware... yeah!
Well that's the cost of freedom and doing things a non standardized way/not enforcing a particular architecture.
Also, there may be no official standards but at least main stream software that will work on the majority of Linux systems like pipewire, gnu tools (glibc although still error prone in some ways), systemd (controversial but still widely used) and at least wrapper libraries to cope with the transition from X11 to Wayland.
Packagingwise debs are pretty universal (arch pkgs are just repackaged) and otherwise flatpaks and AppImages are pretty universal too. You could even go so far and just provide docker containers with the proper config, then it's even more universal.
In the end every software has it's unique dependencies, Windows and MacOS have a similar problem in the end by requiring certain frameworks to be installed (.NET and co.). In the end it's always the question who your target audience is and what type of Linux distro the majority is using.
@@l.h.503 that's not freedom. Standards agreed by everyone is a good thing and are usually just specifications on how things should work, but implementation can be different.
The chaos of the bazaar model in Linux is why I just stopped using it for most stuff. Like you said, it has its ups and downs. I’ve grown tired of the ever changing landscape. The BSDs have old software but they enhance it. Linux just replaced it. I don’t want to know what’s coming after Pipewire in the next 10 years
This is why i never recommend a distro aside from Linux Mint or at least some other Debian-based distro. Even for a power user like I (engineer), the non standardized crap in linux is really infuriating. So why would i bother with or recommend anything else except for the most popular and therefore most standardized distro?
@@connivingkhajiit Depends on what your aim is I guess. If you want to run very up to date or niche software it quickly gets more difficult to get that on LM than on a rolling release with some "source building system" like arch and the aur for example. If you have big security needs you also wouldn't go for things like glibc, sudo, X11 or other software with bigger codebases than needed bc it introduces unnecessary risk for bugs.
The casual user of course would be completely fine with popular distros like Linux Mint and the engineer who needs a stable system without special needs either.
I love how hopeless is this man in every single cover
😂
Switched to Linux on my gaming PC last weekend. Arch+Wayland+Hyprland on Nvidia. Running Mint+X11+i3 on various older laptops. The great thing about it all is choice. And really the only thing I still need to dual-boot windows for is some VMWare stuff (Horizon...) and DCS in VR.
VMware supports Linux natively though. VR depends on your GPU and headset, but generally, it's a no.
I can play VR inside a Windows VM with PCI passthrough, though!
Why limit yourself with Linux is allways the conclusion I come to after running it as a desktop for a few months, there is no hdr or vrr support and many other software and hardware limitiations.
I think alvr is a good solution to vr problem's.
@@michaelandrews4783Playing VR while editing in photoshop, just copy data on windows partition and install alvr, done.
really enjoyed this tour of your system, gives me tons of ideas
The biggest thing I have always appreciated is the fact that you change your stances on stuff so much! 😂 But it's valuable. I like hearing and seeing both of what has worked and what hasn't worked for you after so many years, it's always been insightful. Might not be everyone's cup of tea but I have no issue with it.
On a side note, sad about your 7800XT not being fully utilized, it's quite bizarre. I'm running a 7900XTX and average on 98% utilization for games. ( I have a VM with an A5000 passed through as well).
Keep up the great content.
A bit of a nooby question from a Linux-veteran: How do you measure the utilization of your graphics card? Do you use the GALLIUM_HUD or something like it for this purpose? I never found a tool like nvidia-smi for AMD, so would naturally be curious about using one for my 6800XT...
@@MrRecorder1 mangohud is great
I'd be willing to check this out myself also. Am running a 4090 in my main rig but have a 7800XT & 7900XTX but I mostly watch movies and game, so it's a different workload.
@@MrRecorder1 sudo watch -n 0.5 cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_pm_info
@@MrRecorder1I use MangoHUD to show this during gaming, Chris uses it as well in the video gaming videos you see
I appreciate the video. I have to say I'm a bit disappointed to hear about your AMD troubles. My workstation PC has been on Ubuntu for several months now, and since 24.04 I haven't touched my Windows partition.. to the point I'm considering reclaiming the drive space. I'm making the switch on my gaming PC this week.. but it has a 7900XT that I'm quite happy with. I suppose we'll see! I've been around since the MS DOS, Windows 3.1 days so maybe a return to the command line is in my future? Thanks for taking the time to document your experiences.
I've got a 7900XT and it works fine. My suspicion is that his card problems weren't an AMD problem but a board manufacturer problem.
@@tecknogyk I hope so. I'm trying it out either way, and I care more about how things look on my screen than what the utilization numbers show. I tend to limit my frame rates to my screen refresh, and since moving to this card it typically never gets to 100% utilization.
AMD open source drivers are by and large not bad, where you run into problems is with OpenCL & GPU compute workloads. Here you need to use propriety drivers as Clover is too old and broken and as for RustCL...
Problem is AMD seems to have developed the "sucks to be you!" attitude towards Linux users, to the point that my next card will be Nvida. I need OpenCL and if AMD support is going to be patchy to non-existent then my money's going elsewhere.
In my experience, for general desktop use in Linux AMD cards are best, for gaming it's more even, and AMD seems to get better all the time, but for GPU compute loads or any proprietary video software like DaVinci Resolve, you are better off with NVIDIA. I still would like to see the open source software/driver stack for OpenCL on AMD to get up to speed, but there doesn't seem to be enough interest at the moment. Even if it did, that doesn't mean proprietary software would start making use of it.
@@tecknogyk For AMD I only use Sapphire cards - never had a problem with their implementations 🙂
Was hoping SOMEONE would deal with all these types issues while we’re young. Thanks for this video Sir.
I appreciate the honesty! I think "Linux just works" only applies in the best case scenarios for the most vanilla users. Wayland being the default is good.... now someone has to fix all the broken stuff for all the vanilla users.
I often hear it in ircs for distros: "you can't expect no issues because you're not running a standard system," where you've done any customisation at all. It's all about choice, but your choices will probably cause problems and the community is very opinionated on which choices are "correct."
@@NotLegato so accurate.
vanilla linux is just like jenga. customizations are fun, yet precarious. (and everyone is standing around judging your choices.)
@@bigrob029 Usually they're fine if you sort of know what you're doing, but you gotta be very careful. I timeshift my system before every update, once a week. Now that we're on Plasma 6, it's not gonna break too badly until they hit 7, which should be a long time from now. Hopefully.
@@NotLegato true, yes! however, is it just me not setting it up right or does timeshift take up a TON of space?
@@bigrob029 It takes about 17-20 gigs for me. I keep one snapshot and delete it when I take another just before an update. Make sure you exclude all home stuff and also any flatpaks/snaps you might have, cause those take a lot of space. Mine are in /var/lib/flatpak. I don't schedule it because I want to spare the NVME and also only keep it as an "oh shit my update broke" tool.
Thanks for Sharing Mr Titus!
One question: Will you use your 7800 XT for passtrhough action now?
Freaking font rendering is my only issue with any Linux distro. Especially with 4k display
Gosh, fractional scaling / UI scaling really is behind on Linux. It can be done, but it takes much more work.
Also, HDR support is still missing but I heard the wayland project is working on it.
@@l.h.503 it's already here in plasma 6 you can test it in Kde Neon or Arch and for gaming the Nobara project supports it on Arch and Fedora and on PikaOs in a beta state which i tested and once i got it working it was great
Chris one thing I love about DWM and windows managers that use Xorg xrandr is the ability to set --pos 0x0 for a seperate capture card set to a lower refresh rate than the application you're capturing on your main display. I then pipe my audio out the HDMI output with an OBS instance. Then my streaming PC handles the streaming/recording. It's amazing...
Why desktop environments struggle to display the same content with varying refresh rates boggles my mind.. or how does DWM or other window managers do this it's complete magic.
Xorg does not "just work" in my experience. I always have screen tearing even with TearFree set true. Wayland is more reponsive overall and never tears.
for me Xorg sessions just refuse to launch on my laptop half of the time. Wayland works fine for everything except games.
The only tearing I ever had in xorg was with nvidia, and it is using resolved with forcing full compsition pipeline. With radeon, never experienced but in some instances, I find disabling the kde compositor (ctrl+f12) can improve things.
My screen never tears. So I guess it's just you. I've never even heard of TearFree. Because I've never needed to. Maybe Wayland is more responsive but X is imperceptible to me as it is. I'd have to measure the response time with some kind of software that can characterize time slices I cannot. Basically WTF are you even talking about?
@@1pcfred Basically different people might have different hardware and software configurations, but I'm sure this has never crossed your mind. Xorg is just one piece of the puzzle.
The Xorg screen tearing is from using the xorg drivers for your card amd or intel. Remove that package and magically all your tearing will be gone.
I appreciate your videos, how in-depth you go. I'm a recent transplant from Windows to Linux (Mint) after trying years ago with zero success. My use case has changed, I'm not trying to set the world on fire with games anymore and I like something that just... works. Linux fits that need. I'm trying to learn, but boy there is a learning curve. I'm dual booting at the moment, just in case I do need anything from Windows, or boot in to play a game or two that isn't supported on Linux, but have only been back to Windows a handful of times over the last two months.
I'm just struggling to figure out how to tinker without breaking things. Because once I break them, it's a system wipe - I don't know how to fix them, obviously! But your videos inspire me to become a better user, I enjoy how clean and quick your system looks, how stable it appears, and how it just... works. I'll continue watching your videos and seek out some tips on how to go from "noob" to "power user" and continue to give it my best!
Excellent point about Linux vs Windows. When I was using Windows as a developer everything was easy to install and get going with, but I'd constantly be searching to fixes for 3rd party libraries that had randomly broken. Linux is harder to learn and get setup, but there are far fewer random bugs cropping up and I feel more in control instead of needing to apply workaround on top of workarounds just because the windows version of a library was unstable.
My problem with Linux is that a lot of hardware simply doesn´t work. Creative 5.1 bluetooth sound dongle, for example. It refuses to work and it is clearly the best option on the market for lossless CD audio quality bluetooh.
Then you have sound equalizers. The best is FXsound and again, it doesn´t work on Linux. And yes we can use pulse, alsa etc but they are not nearly as good...
And finally we can´t still play some of the multiplayer games like Warzone or Valorant.
What happens next? I love Linux but if I still need Windows (sadly) for some stuiff, then I rather only use Windows. it is what it is
@@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei As much as I personally dislike Apple, I think this is why a lot of creatives use a mac.
Linux is pretty mush the same as you described for Windows. But harder to fix because without at least some "standard" to go by and knowing what is secure and what isn't (just like Windows but more so with terminology foreign to most). Just like Windows/Mac is all about them controlling you, the user that thought you bought the OS but really didn't, too much freedom is chaos and no order and puts people in just as bad of situations. It would seem there is no win/win with either, just try to learn and use what is best for you.
I'm not a developer, but the whole "workaround on top of workaround" is how it feels for me when I try to use Linux. It's not like that for everyone, but for me with my setup currently.
@@justanotherpxrson i feel you. 90% of the time I feel that way, but when I've done development that's suited to work on linux (like romhacking) it does flip and linux is the more frictionless approach. neither system is perfect and both will have plenty of problems depending on what you want out of it
If you only have one gpu, how do you do your gpu passtrough vms?
Wow, Chris has come a long way. I remember when he was still a (youtube) baby.
I've been a Windows user since I was a kid, but 11 is so bad I decided to give Linux a chance, and know what I really like Linux Mint! Still getting used to it, of course.
Linux Mint feels like the best introduction for Windows users to switch to Linux, and when more comfortable, switch to a better distro of their choice.
Its really the best place to start and promoted as such for good reason. If you want to learn more you can move to arch later, but its really not necessary. If you ever get to the point where you're unable to find applications in mint/ubuntu repo and you get sick of compiling your own apps, you might try an arch-based distro, but aside from that, Mint is as good as it gets.
yup i agree fully to this and it's really what you want to do with your system, linux is just the do whatever you want with it without limitations basically but of course you gotta know what you are doing. Also i would suggest to read arch wiki or from the interwebs about how the linux filesystem works and what are all the folders for. That really helps you to understand why linux works the way it does!
i feel like most windows users are gamers. so I feel like bazzite is the best introfuction for windows users to switch to linux
Windows 11 is such a flaming tire fire, you litterally couldn't have switched at a better time, to a better distro. This is coming from an MCSE/MCITP & I happily run Linux with all Windows box's now just VM's. Im working on AWS anyway so I could use a Chrome book only (god help me) if I wanted to.
Thank you Chris! Any thoughts on IME? Can we do anything about this global backdoor?
I'd be interested in a Debian 12 setup for Resolve, with the demise of Windows 10, my laptop will probably need to be set up for Linux. After the CentOS debacle, I've gone for Debian on anything that matters. I am not a power user!
Also are you using the software activation or a USB dongle? Several years ago there were some reports of problems getting the USB dongle working. Since I have a dongle for activation, that's a concern for me.
You may be a more powerful user than you know.
My problems whenever I tried switching to Linux permanently has always been audio related. If I get it working right on desktop, it doesn't work right in-game. If I get it working in-game it has problems with equalizers, headset output not working or some combination of the above. And from my experience trying to get help on the topic nobody wants to help deal with it beyond the very basic troubleshoot.
Tbh I used to have terrible problems with Linux audio, but since pipewire was implemented, it all has been a breeze. I not only listen to music, I also produce. I'm even using vst plugins via wine.
It has gotten better with pipewire, but its still not great. I still have to do stuff like either manually, or using pavucontrol, bind output to particular applications. Nothing remembers by default. Also, the lack of a normal built in equalizer or volume normalizer like WIndows is really annoying. I tend to use something called JamesDSP for that stuff.
There's a lot with Linux audio that's a mystery to me. I just am glad when sound works. How well sound works is often down to what hardware you're trying to use. Some is supported better than others.
That's because Pulseaudio is a janky, unreliable 20-year-old piece of software that simply cannot be made to work under some circumstances.
The sooner distros and software make the switch to Pipewire, the better.
I am using two different dedicated computers to overcome this inconvenience. One with a x3d cpu optimised for gaming, the other with high core count cpu for production. For now that is how I avoid headaches.
I'm glad to hear you had similar issues with Wayland. It has caused nothing but issues for me as a new Linux user.
I use XFCE as my desktop environment. It gets out of the way and when it breaks it still tends to be usable. I get wanting a slimmed down OS, but XFCE isn't that big, and it's compatible with a lot of existing GUI elements. Anyhow, welcome to my TED talk.
Hi Chris, on the subject of AMD, how could you tell that your 7800 was not being used to its fullest? Please note that I am new to this and currently running Ubuntu 24.04 K:6.8.0-35-generic.
Maybe he meant on da vinci.. but that should be a bad software optimization
you can use mangohud to display an overlay that shows cpu and gpu utilization in a game
@@iiisaac1312 Thank you sir...
ty titus , made the switch lately and im impressed (secondary sys)
It’s so satisfying to see such a new full-time Linux user doing in such an old-school fashion! Please keep influencing people to do the same. 🤗
Really nice and all, but have you been able to solve the long standing problem of videos being decoded on the CPU rather than the dedicated decoders on GPUS when viewed in browsers?
for resolve did you need to buy the license to get hardware encoding to work with NVIDIA?
One of my personal issues with most distros is the coupling together of OS and Application package management. You can decouple them by using multiple package managers, flatpaks, or even manually installing and you will generally have a more stable experience.
Finally, some honesty about Linux. and not just people raving about how easy it is and glossing over problems as if they're minor things. While in my experience it is somewhat true that if you just have /basic/ user requirements like running a browser or libreoffice or GiMP it /is/ pretty straight-forward to run Linux in my limited experience. I'm fairly certain if I could get it setup for him, even my barely computer-literate brother could mostly run it as a daily driver since he only really uses firefox, a word processor, and sometimes minecraft.
However like in this video I /am/ a power-user, have been that way in windows for years. And going from an high-level user of windows to Linux is like stepping onto an alien planet, or at the very least into a foreign country with a different language you barely understand and different customs and ways of doing things.
I've run into /many/ bugs trying to tweak linux how I want it to work, or how I'm used to using a computer, and since I've gotten used to a very custom setup that I literally spent years scripting and tweaking, and I have little to no idea where to even get started on some of it on Linux because the same software doesn't exist, and will not work properly under WINE due to sandboxing not really allowing you to make global tweaks to your system. Also the /constantly/ trying to do something only to realize I don't have permission and need to re-launch something with sudo and make all the edits from scratch and/or enter my password again and again and again.
My most common thing I miss is AutoHotkey, as all the macro software I've tried on Linux just pales in comparison even the attempted linux ports are missing tons of what I consider basic functionality. No blocking key events, no capslock/scrolllock/numlock control, no ability to setup a hotkey for only the left/right modifier key, no having the hotkeys be dependent on what window you're in. And that's not even starting on trying to script my custom interactive stuff like making a popup menu for doing operations on the clipboard. The only stuff I can find online says something about trying a python library and making a python script, though I can't tell if the library actually only detects input events or if it allows you to block and override them. Heck, I'm not even sure if Linux architecture even allows something like the Windows Global Keyboard Hook which Autohotkey relies on to work. I had some limited success with some of my basic hotkeys by tweaking config files and using a couple different programs, but it was spread-out, unstable and a rather cludged together mess, metaphorically held together with gum. It was far from centralized and easy to implement/change or reliable. The one software only let the hotkey work the first few presses before it reverted back to default behavior. underwhelming
Great Video again. When I will retire I will change from MacOS to Linux because I would not have to use certain Apps any longer. But there is still one issue for me:
When will Linux be able to give me HDR10 support? Or is there a solution meanwhile?
Thanks for always talking about Linux and helping people understand its potential and weaknesses. For now i'm still on Windows on my main system simply because i want something that just works, but i got a second system (a laptop) with Linux to fiddle around and learn, and so far very few things didn't work as expected.
I had lots of problems associated with steam proton's fullscreen mode. Since it's not an actual fullscreen (wine emulates it by scaling the window to avoid changing the actual desktop resolution), mouse input breaks in some games and scaling looks terrible, especially fonts. I don't even know what it is, but fonts look much better when they're in actual fullscreen mode and there's no option to force that.
The Opus tipp was a banger. I started Audio editing and for a friend who wants to start youtube.
It is kind of a pain in the low point on linux. I was kind of thinking about davinci resolve but I guess I stick to audacity since I do not want to uninstall my DE.
But yeah I will look into Opus thanks a lot.
I want to install linux the way you do but my knowledge is not quite there yet. Where can I find some more guides and info on it?
Do you use Hyprland, a dynamic tiling Wayland compositor based on wlroots that doesn't sacrifice on its looks?
What is that font you're using on browser? Looks amazing :D
Isn't issues with Wayland on Nvidia sorted now since version 555 of the proprietary driver got it's beta release?
Oh nice. I look forward to the release then. I just installed Bazzite and it’s no fun. Stuck at 60Hz refresh on 120Hz TV
its an involving process, but ye, its getting better, i now dont regret buying nvidia gpu that came with my laptop at least(rtx 3060 mobile gpu).
I'm on Tumbleweed and since I installed the 555 beta drivers I've had a almost flawless Wayland experience on Plasma 6. I only say almost because on waking from sleep mode the desktop environment does not recover correctly and I have to reboot. For me that's a small price to pay.
@@skorne7682 tbf, waking from sleep/hibernate was always pretty 50-50 on linux to begin with IIRC.
I think it might be interesting to see a Linux setup on a portable computer.
I've been tinkering putting Linux on an older MacBook Pro that I inherited and it was a little tricky, mainly because of lack of drivers, but it was fun to do. I'd like to see what you use for a portable computer, if you have one at all.
Thanks for another great video
With all this AI stuff coming with copilot+ etc. and as a gamer that plays pretty much everything out there. What would you recommend as a new user to Linux for what distribution to try out? Right now this Recall and Copilot are limited to newer systems that I have but the sooner I learn Linux the better. I have been using windows all the way back to 3.11 on our old 386 when I was a kid.
Wow. I don't do a lot of video editing, but I would love to see more about how gaming works with this setup. Thanks for sharing your experience.
The only reason I haven't switched yet is I still haven't figured out how to properly route audio and MIDI in Linux, and just trying to get anything working right ends with me inevitably breaking something...losing time and money in the process, so I get forced into going back to Windows to get any audio work done.
Something on the insanity of Linux audio, and how to properly navigate it in a pro-audio setting would be a great video!
Also, DON'T use pulseaudio, that crap is older than my grandma, if yo wanna pulse/jack support in pipewire, install pipewire-jack & pipewire-pulse. Also for midi I should encourage the install of pipewire-alsa, alsa-lib, alsa-tools & alsa-plugins.
Do you get hardware video decoding when watching youtube?
Thanks for the deep insight into your hardware and software requirements. I have average Linux skills, but I'm in the process of learning more and more. Looking at your problems makes me understand my current situation! You have helped me by working out your problems, as I have had almost the same experience in the last month...! Tuxedo OS2 goes 3 - wayland is now supported... I use KDE and also have the pulseaudio issue. Will have a look at your description! Other example: libinput gestures are still working fine on x11, not at all on wayland. I'm using AMD hardware on the really really awesome Tuxedo Pulse 15 gen2 laptop. Long story short: I've now plucked up the courage to go troubleshooting with Tuxedo's great customer service! This Tomte software will certainly help 😅
Is there a way to use Visual Studios 2022 and MS SQL Management Studio on linux or do I need wine for that?
This is the greatest strength and sometimes the biggest roadblock to new users, choice. You can have a bog standard distro with KDE loaded up for grandma and it'll be a "just works" bootloader for a web browser. Or you can go with an ultra minimalist custom kernel riced set up that's almost a server like this. It can be intimidating for perspective users to sift through but it's amazing to have al those options.
"I just like setting everything up in terminal", the same for me. Once you get used, the terminal is unbeatable.
enjoy your stuff Chris! I've been trying my best in the past 6 months to migrate from Windows 11 to Linux, and I've settled on Fedora. My main issue is I have a AMD graphics card, and while Resolve launches fine, it just does nothing. I've read it has to do with h264 encoding, or it could be a combination of my graphics card as well. Not sure if you've seen or heard of similar problems? It just looks like I'm going to have to keep some sort of Windows 11 just for video editing and photo projects.
Can you tell me more about the 7800XT issues? I have switched to AMD 7700XT and it have worked fine for me, but I only play Diablo 4 and use Blender. But it's A LOT easier to install Nvidia to use Cuda cores in Blender than it is to get my AMD 7700XT "cuda" stuff (can't remember the name) working in Blender
I have a question for you. What is the best Linux for gaming with AMD hybrid graphics? It is a pretty modern Laptop. I have Raidion Graphics along with RTX-6700M gaming graphics.
This was great... I'm a new pop os 22.04 user and I like it. I'd love you to relate your Linux gaming experience and tips some time. I'm reading your posts under your Linux section about gaming :-)
I'm looking forward to Cosmic. The choice of floating and tiled window managers is really good.. Nice keyboard shortcuts to get around. it seems really quick and getting rid of windows at home has been great. Being able to ssh between machines is so much easier than farting around with slow windows networking. Even the remote desktop sharing is so good. Also the USB audio works really well with my external DAC.
But I've found getting games going a headache. I have lots on GOG, Epic and Steam.. I've messed around with Bottles, Heroic, Steam and Lutris and haven't had a lot of success. A few games work but most don't. I'm using the nvidia version of pop os 22.04 and my gtx 1080 does its thing. It would be great to have a single approach where I'm doing the same thing to organise and play games.. at the moment it seems pretty fragmented.
How do you deal with XORG allowing all windows to access all keyboard input. That is your calculator, notepad, and browser can see the sudo password you use along with you bank account username and password? I think this is not possible with Wayland and with Windows you need to install a keylogger modified to broadcast key presses to all apps.
What do you suggest for the 'cool kids' like me with amd gpu and want hdr display to play games in hdr. Using fedora with KDE and Wayland, but very new to Linux and unsure if there is any way to keep system lightweight and simple. Also can not find any good options to play games with mods and using windows just for this.
my laptop has rtx 2060 and an integrated amd gpu, when it runs in hybrid gpu mode, wayland works perfectly, but as soon as i switch to dedicated gpu only, issues appear on wayland, practically very hard to use wayland with it, im guessing this will be fixed this summer with the wayland/nvidia update but its still very weird to me, especially as a beginner (using linux for about 9 months now)
I am trying to switch to Linux from Windows 10 for years now. Today I tried debian 12.5 but even things like the clipboard manager or remote desktop are laughable. Not to speak of Autohotkey. And the speed is worse. I was a Mac fanboy from 1993 to 2007 but right now, I think Windows 10 is the best for medium desktop power users and Linux for servers. I like your idea to get rid of the whole desktop and use the terminal. What file manager are you using? In Windows 10 I use Opus and I think it is the best.
Do you have any ideas on how to get Scrivener to work? I am se Cinnamon and that is my most valuable program. I probably need to go virtual drive.
great video! I love the tip on blacklisting audio devices! thank you
Can you pleas tell me why do you disable audio over hdmi, any specifieck reason for this ?
Is this floorp or thor something because I'm looking for an non chomum something browser that is good and don't use much memory nor high cpu
It's always going to better as Wayland support for Resolve is in beta right now for the next version (19), but you're right, use what's work best in the present.
Lol I have encountered and have been working to solve some of these same problems, and have been walking towards the same or similar soluitons. Great upload man.
I am planning to use Resolve myself.
Funnily enough, when Arch Linux switched to pipewire, after some initial problems, it has basically solved any audio issues I had.
Hey Chris... could you make a tutorial on how you set up your OS? I was really craving an OS that was as light as possible (I don't care about animations or anything on the visual side of the desktop) while having the possibility of playing games, I have used Linux before, but I'm no expert, so I need your help, I have nothing to lose for breaking the arch installation because I personally will NOT upgrade to Windows 11 (sorry if my English isn't good, I'm from South America)
Hmm... any thoughts on why I would get eye strain from Linux (both debian and arch, any distro) ... messed with refresh rates, backlight settings, redshift, flux etc. But it always seems too bright even when the brightness is turned way down. It isn't specific hardware as I've tried Linux over the years on different hardware and monitors, always the same issue. 🤔
My two hurdles are my need for solidworks and my massive catalog of autohotkey automation scripts ~75000 lines. I have given up hope on solidworks ever running native, but could do a vm. Autohotkey looks like it can be mostly emulated with xdotool and autokey. What would really be ideal is a cross platform toolset, where automation logic is common and interfacing with the os is platform specific code. I see promise with using python and its keyboard package for automating keypresses and the win32com package for doing COM operations when the script is run on windows. How would you go about automating guis in linux?
Ok it's ugly, especially by default, but I've never had any problem with XFCE4 and there's a shitton of super useful functionalities
Even though there wasn’t anything that I can directly reflect upon and implement right this second, this was great perspective as usual.
Would love to follow your lead on this!
Though as I am on a 7900XTX, with little to no chance of changing, I am skeptical of my chances of succeeding with a Linux daily driver :/
I need wayland to work on Nvidia 40 series because my screens have different resolutions so it's not usable to not have scaling per display.
I totally get what you are saying, with the recent news and how it was going windows, i've been trying to drop windows all along. I switched to ubuntu studio, because i like to make some music and edit some videos and it has a low latency kernel. But in recent update from 22.04 to 24.04 for whatever reason the amd drivers are not working, there is no new version to be downloaded but the old ones refuse to work. I've been using safe mode for a month with mesa drivers which are not ideal.
Thanks Chris. This is what Linux is really like. Fortunately, there are a lot of resources on the Internet where people have the same issues and clever fixes for them.
Thanks for the good advice Chris! I am slowly migrating to Linux permanently and you are a treasure trove of information :)
What is that 27G/62G label on your top bar? Is that RAM usage? So much because of virtual machine?
it's dwm+ neofetch ram usage only!!!
New sub here, I saw you on Omnizoa's video it was a supercut of reactions from the LTT Linux Daily Driver challenge.
Anyway,
I've been using Linux on my laptop for a few months now and very recently I've been using it on my main gaming machine, mostly because I don't really give much of a crap anymore to the newest games to put up with windows bs anymore.
It hasn't been painless but it was much less painful than I thought it would be. My main concern was my GPU which is an Nvidia one and I was very reluctant on using it under linux because I heard so many horror stories about Nvidia and Linux not vibing. I got the same setup on both my laptop and my main pc (Arch, Xorg and KDE) and but really the only problem I had so far is that i've noticed a difference in how my DE behaves on the Nvidia machine, on KDE with proprietary nvidia drivers the desktop animations (like closing, opening, minimizing windows) are VERY choppy (and that's mostly a problem with KDE) aside from that, nothing serious or system breaking.
Hearing you talk about issues on linux with an AMD gpu has come as quite the revelation from me haha.
I went the Jeff Geerling route. All my hobby kit runs Linux. All my servers are Linux. My daily driver is MacOS because I don’t want to spend time fixing my own computer. Before that I ran gentoo with a custom desktop. Initially I hated macOS because I could not set it up as I liked, it is what it is. Once I stopped fighting it I realised being unable to tweak it made me stop chasing the perfect desktop. I just do what I need to do, which is generally terminal and vscode. It never breaks, audio is always solid, the display is crisp, it stays out of my way. I’m glad you’ve got a great setup for you, but for me paying the apple tax is worth it to stop me spending all my time tinkering with my OS and desktop!
Great Video Chris!
As a Ham radio operator, many technologies I want to use involve computing. With Linux the classic search is for the USB port that my radio or other device is using, then we want GPS and the accurate timing it brings, on the go, so we can do digital modes in the field. Lastly, sound. The software creates sounds to send through the radios, and many operators have difficulty with Linux's handling of sound.
Since you asked for linux gripes, here we go.
A few driver versions ago nvidia introduced a laptop feature to desktop, so called runtime D3 (RTD3). This allows you gpu to fully power down when not in use, now for home server applications this is great! The feature promises to drop you nvidia card from something like 14 watts to basically 0.
However I for the life of me cannot get it to work, if you ever get the chance, do take a look at this feature. I am especially interested in how to enable it on a motherboard that doesn't have the right ACPI calls implemented by the board vendor. Perhaps by patching the DSDT of SSDT tables.
I've been using Nvidia and Xorg for 10 years. Everything works fine.
Resolve has always worked well for me, but I switched all my video/audio editing workflow on an Apple Silicon Mac.
I've used tiling window managers, and various DEs. GNOME has always been the one that gave me less issues. I recently switched to KDE Plasma just to try it out after years. It was semidecent until the upgrade to Plasma 6, which is garbage...I think all the issues in Linux desktop boil down to the DE and the audio stack.
So far I've been very happy with the switch to pipewire, but I think I'll nuke any DE and move to dwm myself (and stay on Xorg) since I'm learning C anyways
@christitus - Can you please create a post regarding DWM install on fresh debian (with no desktop environment), Also what are the dependencies to be installed before DWM install and What are the essential softwares you installed for the basic/normal day to day use...
Interested
I'm working on a Linux tool that will auto install all this.
@@ChrisTitusTech ok... i watched it (Linux Tool Box twitch stream)....... Glad to know its included in it.........
Been dealing with this on Pop OS, getting Davinci and some games to work has not been fun so far but I'm sticking with it.
It would be awesome to see a video of how you setup your desktop and stuff to where its a cohesive environment like KDE or Gnome.
New linux user here (at least as a daily driver) with a Nvidia card. I can definitely agree that wayland is causing a lot of flickering and other issues. Since I've gone away from KDE and wayland I have less issues like that. Also as a power user I love timeshift, it has saved me a lot these days. Now that I'm commenting I wanna say, I appreciate your videos and what you do for this community, your windows utility is a fantastic tool
Content creator with my wife and we’re trying to switch from Windows to Linux. Got Resolve working without much issue. However neither Resolve or KDEnlive will import files from our NAS shares. This just works on Windows, surprisingly.
Any GUI based fixes for this? I can terminal but she won’t want to. If it’s not buttery smooth to use then she’s out and we go to Mac.
Currently settled on Ubuntu 24.04 but if another distro handles it better I’m fine with switching.
Curious if anyone has tried an Intel battlemage with this setup and also AV1 encode/decode ... also Chris , why could u not use like an Nvidia Tesla math card in tandem with a radeon?
I had to go back to X and pulseaudio as well, for many of the same reasons you ran into. Hyprland (wlroots 0.7+) and audio (recent pipewire) don't work in VMs anymore. An alternative to dwm is DK wm which is only a 140K binary but has many of the patches (built in and configurable externally) that you would normally apply to dwm. The only thing I miss is the wayland foot terminal, which is lightweight and has sixel support.
Great info, as always! As you said, the thing about Linux si that you can set it up as you wish, however you need it to work. Yes, it requires a bit of work but, what doesn't. I have issues with DaVinci Resolve as well, who knows, it might work someday ;-) 😬
has Chris ever done a vid of cloud storage?