Glad the mill section dried out and wasn't totally ruined. The section with the pour does look very effective as did the technique for the water effect over the weir. Cheers Euan
Thank you Euan, I stripped out the whole substructure to gain access to the riverbed from below. Did a third water test, and still leaked but I saw exactly where from. Glue gun came to the rescue. Making steady progress, lol
Learning never stops. In my model railway days, I did a lot of experimenting. Most of the time, success. We need to be willing to go outside of our comfort zone. Your experimenting with the river reminds me of a football match. Your team played a poor first half. You trail 2-0 at the half. But in the second half, you 3 goals and you are now in extra time. You now have a good chance to win the match. I believe you will prevail over the river. Bill and Janet from California
Bless you Bill, most definitely never stop learning. Kids in school keep reminding me of that. It took a few goes to get the Torr Vale unit watertight, but just added the resin, so far so good.
Hi John! Every day is a school day - even during the holidays! Lol! Great result in the end though! Can't believe how clear that resin is! Good luck with the pour around the Mill! Cheers, Ian.
Hi Ian, yes such a relief. I did manage to seal the Torr Vale unit and just added resin, all good so far. We have to try these things, and after 2-3 goes with resin my confidence is beginning to increase. There are many types of resin and I happen to choose a crystal clear one and yes it is glass clear. However, british rivers tend to be that very muddy brown colour. Great if you work for Mr Wonka, lol
Hi John You certainly learn new skills with model railways and disaster can always be just round the corner 😀😀 Resin looks good though John. Cheers Kev
You certainly do learn so many different skills. I don’t think any of us can honestly say we know everything. I certainly don’t. I do though try to focus on the benefits. Gratefully Torr Vale Mill was and is ok. I did the resin pour today, all good, ready to add ripples and white water, yay.
Congratulations on the water pour. I’ve been building a hillside with water falls and just started to develop the water side of things. It’s not a job you can rush as you have to let things dry out, as you know. Great work John. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Sounds good Roy, and yes things do need to dry out. I had to go back to reseal mine with silicone, but least all worked out. Do we get to see the results? Perhaps you could send me some pics when done?
All end well John but that was a close call on the Mill. The resin has worked well on that section and it will be interesting to see how the larger poor come out. Good luck. Stephen
Thanks Stephen, I had to strip out the sub frame on the Torr Vale build, finding that it was all quite damp. I had to plug a few areas but found the main cause was a 3mm hole buried behind foliage. Seems to be working out ok. Ill breathe that sigh of relief when both parts of the resin are sucessfully in, lol
Hi John, Great your on Holiday a break away from all the stress of your job and then you put yourself through all this!!!!! but well done its looks so life like and its not even finished yet bring on the next video. Cheers Robert.
Thanks Robert, I guess its the fear of the unknown, how the resin will react. Gratefully I got the Torr Vale unit watertight and pour in the resin, that was scary bit. What if I had resin all over the carpet. Moving on... Ive added the water ripples to the Goytcliffe area, does look a bit strange as the mod podge isnt quite as glossy. Still to add white water, but going well so far.
Thanks Paul, yes it was a bit scary first time, but had 2-3 goes now. I guess its the fear of the unknown and how we deal with it. All is good so far though.
Kudos John for sticking with it and overcoming a near disaster, many might have given up at that point. The silicone on the plastic wrap was very innovative, for a moment I thought you were going to peel the silicone water off the plastic wrap. It looks terrific being able to see the river bed. So well done
Hi John I've been on holiday so missed a few videos. I do my rivers in a similar fashion. However I do use sculptamould for the river bed sealed with acrylic paint then sealed on top with a small amount of the water mixture. This also seals the stones on the river bed too. I seal the masking tape with sealant, it's not overkill it's just common sense to me. My waterfalls are made the kathy millat way also. Great job so far, look forward to the next one. By the way the river goyt is that colour because it starts on the moorlands adjacent to the cat and fiddle inn so it's coloured by the peat, it's also sat in errwood and fernilee reservoirs on route cheers Andy
You do make me chuckle Andy, here's me thinking that mud colours the river water, silly me, lol. Thank you for your kind comments about the resin pour, I still cant believe the acrylic varnish wasn't waterproof, never mind. Even though I smoothered the 'silcone' compound, strangely it looks ok through the resin. Got to be a result. Btw, I went to create the mound you suggested by Goytcliffe viaduct to hide the clip. However, it was so close to the tracks it didnt look right. So I made some hollow containers, they fit better, hope you dont mind? Although, how someone gets to them is another matter. Perhaps they need a tardis to get to there, lol.
@@piccadillymodelrailways No. Faulders mill in Stockport. It was a summer job after my O Levels. The Goyt and the Tame come together in Stockport to form the river Mersey.
@piccadillymodelrailways Growing up, they were clean on the way into Stockport, but once they had gone the mile through town as the Mersey, the river was dead. The foam off it would bleach your clothes. It was said that if you fell in, you would asphyxiate before you drowned! There were 27 coal powered mills in a square mile at that time, a gas works, a power station, and an iron foundry!
Glad the mill section dried out and wasn't totally ruined. The section with the pour does look very effective as did the technique for the water effect over the weir. Cheers Euan
Thank you Euan, I stripped out the whole substructure to gain access to the riverbed from below. Did a third water test, and still leaked but I saw exactly where from. Glue gun came to the rescue. Making steady progress, lol
Learning never stops. In my model railway days, I did a lot of experimenting. Most of the time, success. We need to be willing to go outside of our comfort zone. Your experimenting with the river reminds me of a football match. Your team played a poor first half. You trail 2-0 at the half. But in the second half, you 3 goals and you are now in extra time. You now have a good chance to win the match. I believe you will prevail over the river. Bill and Janet from California
Bless you Bill, most definitely never stop learning. Kids in school keep reminding me of that. It took a few goes to get the Torr Vale unit watertight, but just added the resin, so far so good.
Hi John! Every day is a school day - even during the holidays! Lol! Great result in the end though! Can't believe how clear that resin is! Good luck with the pour around the Mill! Cheers, Ian.
Hi Ian, yes such a relief. I did manage to seal the Torr Vale unit and just added resin, all good so far. We have to try these things, and after 2-3 goes with resin my confidence is beginning to increase. There are many types of resin and I happen to choose a crystal clear one and yes it is glass clear. However, british rivers tend to be that very muddy brown colour. Great if you work for Mr Wonka, lol
Hi John
You certainly learn new skills with model railways and disaster can always be just round the corner 😀😀
Resin looks good though John.
Cheers Kev
You certainly do learn so many different skills. I don’t think any of us can honestly say we know everything. I certainly don’t. I do though try to focus on the benefits. Gratefully Torr Vale Mill was and is ok. I did the resin pour today, all good, ready to add ripples and white water, yay.
Great to know that you're not a resin-pour virgin any more!! Looks really good John, well done. Chris
Lol, first time for everything. If I do another river scene I'll definitely approach it very differently for sure.
Congratulations on the water pour. I’ve been building a hillside with water falls and just started to develop the water side of things. It’s not a job you can rush as you have to let things dry out, as you know. Great work John. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Sounds good Roy, and yes things do need to dry out. I had to go back to reseal mine with silicone, but least all worked out.
Do we get to see the results? Perhaps you could send me some pics when done?
All end well John but that was a close call on the Mill. The resin has worked well on that section and it will be interesting to see how the larger poor come out. Good luck. Stephen
Thanks Stephen, I had to strip out the sub frame on the Torr Vale build, finding that it was all quite damp. I had to plug a few areas but found the main cause was a 3mm hole buried behind foliage. Seems to be working out ok. Ill breathe that sigh of relief when both parts of the resin are sucessfully in, lol
The new river looks very effective!
Thank you, the modpodge effects will create some fantastic ripples.
Hi John,
Great your on Holiday a break away from all the stress of your job and then you put yourself through all this!!!!! but well done its looks so life like and its not even finished yet bring on the next video.
Cheers Robert.
Thanks Robert, I guess its the fear of the unknown, how the resin will react. Gratefully I got the Torr Vale unit watertight and pour in the resin, that was scary bit. What if I had resin all over the carpet. Moving on...
Ive added the water ripples to the Goytcliffe area, does look a bit strange as the mod podge isnt quite as glossy. Still to add white water, but going well so far.
@@piccadillymodelrailways could you add a gloss varnish over the hogmog to match the rest???
Cheers Robert
Yes I am going to put gloss varnish over the 'hogmog' lol indeed. What you like?
Nice one John, always a scary moment when you start the pour but the results look fantastic.
Thanks Paul, yes it was a bit scary first time, but had 2-3 goes now. I guess its the fear of the unknown and how we deal with it. All is good so far though.
Kudos John for sticking with it and overcoming a near disaster, many might have given up at that point.
The silicone on the plastic wrap was very innovative, for a moment I thought you were going to peel the silicone water off the plastic wrap.
It looks terrific being able to see the river bed. So well done
Thank you, it was Kathy Millet's idea to use cling film so I can't take the credit for that. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Thats impressive John very interesting indeed
Thanks Digger, I finally got the Torr Vale unit watertight, took 3-4 goes mind, lol. Literally just added the resin, time will tell how it comes out.
Hi John I've been on holiday so missed a few videos. I do my rivers in a similar fashion. However I do use sculptamould for the river bed sealed with acrylic paint then sealed on top with a small amount of the water mixture. This also seals the stones on the river bed too. I seal the masking tape with sealant, it's not overkill it's just common sense to me. My waterfalls are made the kathy millat way also. Great job so far, look forward to the next one. By the way the river goyt is that colour because it starts on the moorlands adjacent to the cat and fiddle inn so it's coloured by the peat, it's also sat in errwood and fernilee reservoirs on route cheers Andy
You do make me chuckle Andy, here's me thinking that mud colours the river water, silly me, lol. Thank you for your kind comments about the resin pour, I still cant believe the acrylic varnish wasn't waterproof, never mind. Even though I smoothered the 'silcone' compound, strangely it looks ok through the resin. Got to be a result.
Btw, I went to create the mound you suggested by Goytcliffe viaduct to hide the clip. However, it was so close to the tracks it didnt look right. So I made some hollow containers, they fit better, hope you dont mind? Although, how someone gets to them is another matter. Perhaps they need a tardis to get to there, lol.
In the summer of 1976, I worked in a mill by the side of the Goyt. It's looking about the right shade to me! Regards, Stephen.
Was it Torr Vale mill by New Mills Central station by any chance was it? You kept that quiet, lol
@@piccadillymodelrailways No. Faulders mill in Stockport. It was a summer job after my O Levels. The Goyt and the Tame come together in Stockport to form the river Mersey.
Oh I see, I dare say both rivers were/are as filthy as each other.
@piccadillymodelrailways Growing up, they were clean on the way into Stockport, but once they had gone the mile through town as the Mersey, the river was dead. The foam off it would bleach your clothes. It was said that if you fell in, you would asphyxiate before you drowned! There were 27 coal powered mills in a square mile at that time, a gas works, a power station, and an iron foundry!
Blimey, how life changes. A world when 'health and safety' handn't been thought of by the sound of it.
very interesting, glad it worked out okay
Thank you, Im still working on the Torr Vale unit, but should be ok.