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  • @ModernRogue
    @ModernRogue  2 года назад +11

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    • @MalcolmAuger
      @MalcolmAuger 2 года назад

      A spaceman in king's arthur's court by Disney in the late 70's magnetized a sword that lead a bad guy astray.

    • @yomamaso100
      @yomamaso100 2 года назад

      You guys seriously need to do a episode where you sit down and play a game of Monopoly!

    • @Idigedgein
      @Idigedgein 2 года назад

      It was from Bio-Dome and Son-in-law, the only hyphenated Pauly Shore movies ;)

    • @DJSaucy564
      @DJSaucy564 Год назад

      Let me come and compete. Or collab or something. I can explain the science behind this and it isn't new age energy bullcrap.
      I can do this with 100% accuracy every single time
      Yall can do it with 99 buckets of sand and 1 bucket of water. 20 times. I win if I get it right 100% of the time.
      I'm dead serious. And there is actual science behind this you guys are just doing it way way way wrong.

    • @jacoviewright1260
      @jacoviewright1260 10 месяцев назад

      The gentleman never said "energy". He said you could sense where there was a "void" for "some reason" (may not be exactly what he said, but I believe more accurate). I'm not saying he is right. Just that he really didn't give of a new age, "energy" vibe.

  • @D33r_Hunt3r_
    @D33r_Hunt3r_ 2 года назад +449

    Buying art, especially modern art, is usually a scam or money laundering. Buying part of art sounds even more like a scam.

    • @nilpo
      @nilpo 2 года назад +26

      Precisely.

    • @ComradePhoenix
      @ComradePhoenix 2 года назад +30

      Its like dowsing, but for people who think 'line go up' is a valid statement.

    • @KusaneHexaku
      @KusaneHexaku 2 года назад +27

      while that does of course happen, please dont dismiss all art. some people just genuinely like art, and some artist just also genuinely like art.
      not saying i trust this sponsor or support nft or anything though

    • @nilpo
      @nilpo 2 года назад +29

      @@KusaneHexaku Absolutely! It's great to support art and artists. I have bought several paintings from local artists.
      But if you want something from a master, you buy it from a reputable dealer, not some random online brokerage. And you buy the whole artwork to own, you don't buy some interest in something that isn't tangible. That's just moronic.

    • @Ashephalt
      @Ashephalt 2 года назад +32

      It’s pretty disappointing to see from this channel honestly. You gotta keep the lights on obviously and I’m fine with the shitty VPN ads but this is awful.

  • @voidstar.studio
    @voidstar.studio 2 года назад +150

    Jason's absolute dedication to the bit to actually eat a mouthful of sand was impressive

  • @fawndoe1917
    @fawndoe1917 2 года назад +99

    fun fact: The US and Iraqi militaries actually bought bomb detecting machines in the 2000s which were in essence just dowsing rods which did not, in any way work

    • @Cthulhu013
      @Cthulhu013 2 года назад +6

      Bahahahaha. I really hope that is true. Just shows how high up incompetence can run.

    • @legion162
      @legion162 2 года назад +13

      @@Cthulhu013 it really is true, husband and wife team, they got sent down for fraud, it happened maybe 2013 ish, iirc they were from the South of England somewhere

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +23

      Yup. They spent millions on that crap. Sadly, I couldn't find a moment for those title cards.
      - Modern Rogue Editing Supervisor

    • @jordanthedove
      @jordanthedove 2 года назад +7

      Many peolpe died as a result of explosive devices getting through car check-points to their targets.

    • @DrSbaitsojr
      @DrSbaitsojr 2 года назад

      only trump supporters would fall for this lie. bombs are made containing metal. we have metal detectors

  • @Goryus
    @Goryus 2 года назад +227

    The way the JREF would have tested this is to fill each bucket with water or sand randomly, and ask the claimant to have the correct matching pattern. With 5 buckets it's about a 3% chance of success, versus the 20% in your setup.

    • @Cthulhu013
      @Cthulhu013 2 года назад

      Man James Randi did so much in his time. What a huge loss. Don't feel like anybody has picked up his mantle.

    • @lettersnstuff
      @lettersnstuff 2 года назад

      god I miss James Randi

    • @acegamer7549
      @acegamer7549 2 года назад

      It would actually be 50%, because each bucket is a 50/50 you’re right, and out of 5 buckets, you have a 50% chance of getting it right

    • @loganlambert5679
      @loganlambert5679 2 года назад +23

      @@acegamer7549 with five buckets there are 32 different combinations of water and sand buckets, so the chance of getting the correct order is 1 in 32 which is around 3%

    • @lettersnstuff
      @lettersnstuff 2 года назад +24

      @Logan Lambert the absolute state of the american public education system smh…

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 2 года назад +29

    Honestly. An occult survival kit sounds cool af as a novelty piece.

  • @skepticallypwnd
    @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +318

    True story, that's only like 2/3rds of title cards I made for this episode. Dowsing has been debunked so many times that it's not even recognizable as the dead horse it used to be. It's just a dry stain that every science communicator has been obligated to walk across the last 150 years.
    - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

    • @TravisTerrell
      @TravisTerrell 2 года назад +11

      People in my rural area literally still hire them all the time to tell them [guess] the best location for their well.

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +18

      @@TravisTerrell that makes me sad, but proves the skeptic rule of thumb that there is no form of BS ever introduced to the world that will ever completely leave.

    • @franklinrowland1093
      @franklinrowland1093 2 года назад +24

      I work for a water dept. And these are still used by me and my crew daily to mark water lines in the ground. Infact, USA Blue Book ,a retailer for pipes, fittings, and the like, sell the "Magnetomatic" part#25720. In it's "instructions" it started it works with magnetic fields... It's made from stainless steel and plastic... Materials that aren't attracted to magnets...

    • @edmundf.kuelliiispiritualn2963
      @edmundf.kuelliiispiritualn2963 2 года назад +4

      @@TravisTerrell of course they do because it works.

    • @carsond7870
      @carsond7870 2 года назад +23

      @@skepticallypwnd Have the team look deeper into the sponsor masterworks, they are two steps from a pump a dump scam!! I know you guys have higher standards, I know you guys respect your viewers.

  • @carsond7870
    @carsond7870 2 года назад +42

    I understand the hunt for the bag, but put a disclaimer if your sponsor is a blatant scam, have some class

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 2 года назад

      How is it a scam lol

    • @carsond7870
      @carsond7870 2 года назад +15

      @@MrPacman64 Masterworks is known in the industry for being very deceptive about the investment pieces they offer, most have a deliberate negative cash flow. The company also charge up to 25% transaction rates and a surcharge on any withdrawal.

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 2 года назад

      @@carsond7870 what Industry exactly lmao I've never heard of it. Also if everything is written out I don't see how it's a scam. Just sounds like a bad deal

    • @carsond7870
      @carsond7870 2 года назад +1

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    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 2 года назад

      @@carsond7870 how is online investing bad lmao what? Giving off mad tinfoil vibes

  • @TheoneStanband
    @TheoneStanband 2 года назад +38

    "If they are thirsty then let them drink the sand" I would actually like to see you guys do a dowse or no dowse game show even if it's just a single episode.

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      I’m down!

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      Use physics and the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod. To use physics in dowsing you have to be moving for crossing the sought radiated elemental magnetic flux lines which energize the sought element's one-tenth ounce dowsing rod load that is attached to the dowsing rod. The world is about to be taught the physics in dowsing, how to build your own modern ball bearing dowsing rod by reading the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition.

  • @lazywargaming6752
    @lazywargaming6752 2 года назад +18

    I feel like putting dowsing rods in a survival kit is kinda like putting a d8 or a coin. One of those 'Im out of options and moral, let's just leave it up to change' sort of things

    • @sophiatrocentraisin
      @sophiatrocentraisin Год назад +3

      And in this very specific case, it's actually better than nothing.
      Hell, even when you don't know where to start looking, you might as well resort to this kind of noise generator. At worst it just breaks analysis paralysis by giving you an absolute random result. At best it taps into your intuitive pattern recognition in a way where you may actually be better than pure randomness at locating water given landscape features, but you need something to have any kind of confidence in your intuition

  • @dbackscott
    @dbackscott 2 года назад +33

    I’m a geotechnical engineer. When I first started watching this video I was thinking “please tell me they’re going to debunk this bullshit.” At 5:00: “oh, thank God.”

    • @snarkylive
      @snarkylive 2 года назад +14

      I'm a geologist, when the driller busts out the dowsing rods, I know its time to go smoke and let them decide which of the infinite rapidly shifting underground utilities they are going to drill into.

    • @dbackscott
      @dbackscott 2 года назад

      @@snarkylive what’s even more infuriating is when the utility locators bust out the dowsing rods…

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад +2

      😂

    • @dbackscott
      @dbackscott 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, Florida… need I say more?

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад +2

      @@dbackscott they can find anything if they focus hard enough, even love

  • @Bobsmith-xq2pr
    @Bobsmith-xq2pr 2 года назад +124

    Hi rogues, I love your content and I do know you need sponsorships to make your money, but this weeks sponsor is kinda shady.
    You guys normally promote stuff like VPNs, supplements, and fairly normal and useful stuff.
    Promoting an iffy investment scheme is worse. There's a big difference between advertising a product worth ~$50 - $200, and an investment scheme asking for thousands of dollars.
    Maybe choose slightly better sponsors in the future?
    I love your content, but I want to keep this comment as a warning to viewers to avoid janky investing schemes like the one promoted today.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад +14

      yeah these "partial investment" things trigger a lot of alarms here.

    • @medleyshift1325
      @medleyshift1325 2 года назад +13

      Yeah, gonna double down with you Bob, thanks for saying something.
      Rouges, we really get you need to keep the lights on, and trust us when we say we fully understand and are grateful, but this is a bit much.

    • @AnymMusic
      @AnymMusic 2 года назад +4

      Not to mention that they doubled down on it, with (I believe it was Brian in the comments) saying it "passed his sniffing test". Dude might as well have used dowsing rods to see if Masterworks is legit or not

  • @EpicMonkeyFries
    @EpicMonkeyFries 2 года назад +33

    Princess Bride. He's thinking about Inigo Montoya and the Pit of Despair.

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +7

      SHHHHH!
      - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

    • @EpicMonkeyFries
      @EpicMonkeyFries 2 года назад +1

      @@skepticallypwnd Oh crap. Sorry... I misread the text. I didn't see the "wrong" part. O_o

    • @Ihahnsolo
      @Ihahnsolo 5 месяцев назад

      Yesssssss ✊

  • @dvldgz6306
    @dvldgz6306 2 года назад +7

    I heard Adam Savage talk about this. He thinks that we naturally know where water is more likely to be in nature and so we move the sticks that way when we see natural indicators. Like lush plant life or moss.

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      Read the recently published book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition. This is one that when dowsed correctly, Adam Savage and crew would never be able to debunk the physics of dowsing with the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod and electronic metal detectors are one and the same.

  • @kennethhubbs3599
    @kennethhubbs3599 2 года назад +19

    Honestly, I was really expecting them to find that ALL the buckets were filled with sand. Goes against the experiment, but would have been funny!

  • @groovychic
    @groovychic 10 месяцев назад +5

    love when city scientists attempt to "disprove" something country folks have done and will continue to do successfully for hundreds of years.

  • @JoeDiamondLive
    @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад +73

    I’ve always wanted to do Dowsing on this show! Thanks for having me back!

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +13

      Our pleasure!

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +5

      Thanks, man! I don't get to flex my skeptic muscle very often these days.

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      Read the recently published book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition for learning all the physics that energize both the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod and electronic metal detectors with being the same principle of having to be moving for becoming energized by the sought element's elemental magnetic flux lines. I give FREE dowsing lessons in Laplata Canyon near Durango, Colorado where a gold vein system runs underneath the Laplata County Road. Bring the filming crew and be flabbergasted by the dowsing!

    • @gh0stwulf863
      @gh0stwulf863 Год назад +2

      @@michaelfercik3691 Oh, god… I hope you’re just trolling. I REALLY hope you’re trolling! If not, I hope you’re at least honest about the giving “free” dowsing lessons. I can already imagine some of the people you teach turning around and using their new “ability” to scam some poor saps trying to find gold or lost jewelry…

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 Год назад

      ​​@@gh0stwulf863Google tells us all we need to know here - one Michael Fercik _wrote_ the book "The Art of Dowsing: Separating Science from Susperstition." A copy can be yours for about $15.

  • @Gararrad08
    @Gararrad08 2 года назад +16

    Dowser? I hardly know her.

  • @johnholchin
    @johnholchin 2 года назад +11

    gas company was doing a CBYD check and one of the guys got out dousing rods. they also used their real equipment, but I still wrote to the company about dangerous activity.

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +1

      Good for you! Sincerely. (why does that always look sarcastic in print?)
      - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

    • @catchara1496
      @catchara1496 2 года назад +2

      @@skepticallypwnd try a tilde inbetween the last word and punctuation?
      Good for you!
      vs
      Good for you~!
      Idk tho

    • @Brent-jj6qi
      @Brent-jj6qi Год назад +1

      @@catchara1496 That looks more sarcastic, or lewd depending on which corners of the internet you've been to

    • @Xolisaz83
      @Xolisaz83 Год назад +1

      You havent digged trenches in your life. Utility employees will always use their rods to get the job done quickly. It would be stupid not to use them.

    • @Brent-jj6qi
      @Brent-jj6qi Год назад +1

      @@Xolisaz83 except there’s no scientific basis or any studies showing that there might be anything about them that works

  • @mountainhun
    @mountainhun 2 года назад +17

    Ooooooh in one of my classes, we were studying remote sensing, geophysical devices to detect things in the ground, stuff like ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, electromagnetic devices, etc. In one of the books or papers we had for reading, they did mentioned dowsing, and like thoroughly roasted it, like "Dowsing rods have not been found to be more accurate than random chance in encountering and recording anomalies or archaeological material." XD

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Год назад +1

      The phone company sent guys to bury the internet cable today. I looked out the window after hearing a noise and I watched a guy with one divining rod instantly locate the water line in one try, walk away to get a shovel, dig down and locate the line within seconds, then successfully NOT damage my water line burying the cable. I watched a guy I worked with use it repeatedly to find water lines and even leaks on jobs...one four feet deep. So explain it. If these guys ridiculed me for UFO attacks I experienced I`d hurt them.

    • @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE
      @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE Год назад

      @@baneverything5580 it's just nonsense. Every time someone is critical of divining, people come out from the dark corners and say "I saw a guy do it once" or some variation of the story and that is supposed to be proof. It's like the existence of viruses claiming they cause disease. It's fantasy. If divining were real, there would be a scientific test done, a proper gold standard controlled test. But there is not anything like that proving it works. It would be a simple test to conduct as well, one which does not require lab coats, million dollar devices, research grants etc. But no one has ever proven it works against a control in a proper test.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Год назад

      @@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE Perhaps you should at least make an attempt at educating yourself by reading astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell`s book, The Way Of The Explorer, and spend some time examining the evidence and research available. They said Uri Geller the "spoon bender" was a fake and they convinced the public of this. But isn`t it VERY ODD that he has made a massive fortune using DIVINING to locate extremely valuable oil, gas, and mining deposits for huge companies for his entire adult life? And isn`t it odd what Dr Mitchell discovered when testing the man? But you just keep on believing the "woke" version of "modern" MSNBC "science" and all these evil, greedy crooks calling themselves the "experts." "TRUST THE SCIENCE!" LOL! Oh boy...

    • @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE
      @THE_CHOAS_ENGINE Год назад

      @@baneverything5580 I don't trust the science all the time. I look at evidence and make my own decision. I don't believe viruses are real for example which means Covid isn't a disease which means vaccines don't do what they are claimed which means they should not be injected into your inner body as there is no reason for it. Now flat Earth... evidence to me suggest the Earth is round. I pick and choose. Dowsing is like viruses to me... sure people are getting sick but is it caused by a virus? Similar to that people may find water but observing someone finding water is like obersiving someone geting sick and saying its caused by a virus you caught from someone else.

    • @bloodyhell8201
      @bloodyhell8201 Год назад

      @@baneverything5580 Go on, hurt them.
      You wont do shit. 😋

  • @PBTophie
    @PBTophie 2 года назад +17

    "Own pieces of ... Banksy's..."
    Wait, what? No! THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE ENTIRE IDEA!!! Banksy's worked too hard for people to completely miss the point.

    • @gaiusjuliuspleaser
      @gaiusjuliuspleaser 2 года назад +7

      2022 Banksy completely misses the point of 2002 Banksy, too. These days, my man is all in on the NFT grift.

  • @overestimatedforesight
    @overestimatedforesight 2 года назад +5

    Jason's commitment to the joke is unparalleled

  • @Palthura
    @Palthura 2 года назад +2

    *me dowsing in an SHTF situation and I walk up to the river behind my house*
    “Babe! They work!!”

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel 2 года назад +36

    I love how we've clearly got two well-intentioned charlatans looking for reason and one polite skeptic with no time for bullshit.
    And I really wish they dumped the water bucket on Shwood after he "won" like a gatorade cooler.

  • @sythestar
    @sythestar 2 года назад +13

    Pretty sure Brian was thinking about Indigo Montoya using his sword to guide his way to the six fingered man in The Princess Bride.

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +5

      yup. they finally let me off the hook at the end.

    • @minette36
      @minette36 2 года назад

      You absolute saint.

    • @XXassasinzX
      @XXassasinzX 2 года назад

      Oh, I fully thought we were talking about Rincewind's magic sword in TCOM movie. Princess Bride I'd far less vague lol

    • @ikitclaw7146
      @ikitclaw7146 2 года назад

      @@XXassasinzX i was right there with you on this one. never seen princess bride lol

  • @shellbournian
    @shellbournian 2 года назад +14

    you guys remember that time Jason just casually put a handful of sand in his mouth and it somehow wasn't the weirdest crap you just saw?

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      😂

    • @Gabrocol
      @Gabrocol 8 месяцев назад

      He doesnt like sand because its coarse ruff and irritating

  • @Beegpapijimbo
    @Beegpapijimbo 5 месяцев назад +1

    Using dowsing rods for plumbing is like using Tarot for HR decisions

  • @merashino
    @merashino 2 года назад +5

    imagine if joe switched the bucket of water for another bucket of sand and let Jason and Brian find the "water" only because they expect it to be there

  • @navn_ukjent
    @navn_ukjent 2 года назад +29

    Dowsing for water is of course silly, but it would very rarely be dangerous. The insanity and danger is much higher when people claim that they can use dowsing to find landmines! This is something that regularly pops up, and will of course lead to injuries and deaths. It's particularly insidious when it's sold to un-developed countries as a cheaper alternative to actual anti-mine equipment.

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +13

      oh, yeah-- that was one of the more electronic-ish gizmos that were happening in the early 2000's.

    • @lokithecat7225
      @lokithecat7225 2 года назад +7

      Sounds like they work just fine...
      If they have a thousand land mines to find, give a thousand villagers Rods.
      Over a long enough time, they will all be found and "Disarmed".

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад +1

      Good point

    • @kixeusvent
      @kixeusvent Год назад

      Dowsing for water does work though. Water witches have jobs for a reason

  • @ZanadoRandel
    @ZanadoRandel 2 года назад +3

    So there is a solid argument that the people who were successful with them in the wild were so successful because they new what the signs of potential underground water are. All the rods did was let them focus on something that allowed them to unconsciously see those signs, which is why no matter how many times they can do it in a wilderness setting, they can never do it in a scientific one, the rods do nothing, its there brain thats picking up on the signs of water in the area.

  • @semorebutts2584
    @semorebutts2584 2 года назад +2

    In The Princess bride, his father's sword guides him to the torture chamber.

  • @jamienightingale707
    @jamienightingale707 2 года назад +28

    Having a couple lengths of coat hanger wire in a survival kit isn't such a bad idea though

  • @jernada6794
    @jernada6794 Месяц назад

    8:47 "can we sell or cultist survival packs?" Yes, yes you can sell them, you can put anything in them, and it will sell.

  • @chetmcgovern9985
    @chetmcgovern9985 2 года назад +3

    I have an uncle that legitimately believes in this sorta stuff. Instead of using it for fun like Joe here, he believes that this stuff really exists and that he has a gift for using it on other people.

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад +2

      *Uncle takes off disguise to reveal he’s really Joe Diamond 😱

    • @chetmcgovern9985
      @chetmcgovern9985 2 года назад +1

      @@JoeDiamondLive I woulda gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling rogues!

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      @@chetmcgovern9985 😂

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      Nobody understood the physics of dowsing and metal detecting are the same. Read the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition that explains all the physics of dowsing with the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod, which accurately gauges all edges, depth buried with angle of deposition and GRADING

    • @chetmcgovern9985
      @chetmcgovern9985 Год назад

      @@michaelfercik3691 It isn't a science nor has it ever truly been proven under legitimate scientific conditions.
      There have been tests done with dowsers where they were placed in a multistory building and told that there was a large body of water on the floor beneath them (which there was). With all their tricks, none of them could ever find it.

  • @ryanbard8555
    @ryanbard8555 2 года назад +2

    I heard dowsing rods are very effective at locating reiki practitioners

  • @TheRandomNat
    @TheRandomNat 2 года назад +3

    A sword that guides you around? sounds like Shadow of the Colossus to me...

  • @oldnerdsteve
    @oldnerdsteve 2 месяца назад

    With the coathangers, you can get two cheap ball point pens and strip the insides out and use those for the tubes. That's what some friends and I did in high school.

  • @crazyinterestin4287
    @crazyinterestin4287 2 года назад

    We find water lines underground consistently.
    Turning the water on, so their is running water in the line seems to help.

  • @Aliraldd992
    @Aliraldd992 2 года назад +2

    Joe is one of the best guest and it's always a pleasure to have him on, but Jason eating sand in the end?
    That's just gold

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад +1

      I’ve never been happier to be upstaged 😂

  • @Gabrocol
    @Gabrocol 8 месяцев назад +1

    After watching this video, i can confirm I still dont like sand. Its coarse, ruff, and irritating and it gets everywhere.

  • @Zelmel
    @Zelmel 2 года назад +6

    Holy shit, Jason committed to that bit and I can't imagine that was pleasant. His dentist is probably both crying and rubbing his hands in delight. Also lol the screen comment about younglings. Maybe not in the best of taste given when this was posted and Texas, but still.

  • @IlTrojo
    @IlTrojo 2 года назад +1

    I almost expected Brian to shout "Thalatta! Thalatta!" when water was revealed.

  • @Mussoi7000
    @Mussoi7000 2 года назад +1

    the film that brian is looking for is called "legend of zelda skyward sword"

  • @lokithecat7225
    @lokithecat7225 2 года назад +1

    Brian Missing the Movie Reference.... Inconceivable.

  • @justinbanks2380
    @justinbanks2380 2 года назад +2

    Episodes with Joe Diamond are always awesome

  • @johnnymac6242
    @johnnymac6242 Год назад

    Dowsing for water is a sham, BUT, I have seen linemen dowse for buried lines multiple times with accuracy. It is by no means perfect like a locator. The linemen would use copper conductor off the back of the truck, approximately 1 foot by 6 inches on each side of the bend.

  • @jessehackett6941
    @jessehackett6941 Год назад +1

    Iv used these for years as a plumber and I can tell you 100% that they work to find leaks and pipes and water pockets for a well.

    • @jagervolant7871
      @jagervolant7871 Год назад

      I tried their test w 10 buckets, and had them randomly switched…. 3 out of 3 times… and I was a skeptic. 😂

  • @MrSears_1.618
    @MrSears_1.618 2 года назад +1

    I was taught this very young, way back in the mountains of Southern Appalachia.

  • @CrowHavenPastures
    @CrowHavenPastures 2 года назад +2

    I live in a small town in the great lakes region of the US and no joke if anyone wants a well drilled in my county they have to hire a "water witch" who dowses for a good spot on your land. Which usually determines where your house will be built.

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +1

      That's depressing. Damn.
      - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

    • @CrowHavenPastures
      @CrowHavenPastures 2 года назад +1

      @@skepticallypwnd yeah. It's not even the person who owns and runs the drilling equipment, it's a service all it's own. Thank modern rogue for legend smashing this one 👍

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 2 года назад +1

      Out of curiosity, how much does it pay to be a "water witch?" Are water warlocks also accepted? Asking for a friend, who is me.

  • @Cthulhu013
    @Cthulhu013 2 года назад +10

    Just to be clear, there is no good evidence to support dowsing. In fact, every controlled test conducted has failed to demonstrate it's a reliable method for locating anything. In short, it's woo woo.

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      Great addition 😊

    • @newtonbomb
      @newtonbomb 2 года назад

      But it's pragmatically useful woo-woo, at least when it comes to locating water lines. It's better than just blindly guessing and in my own experience has prevented me from wasting time or damaging lines on multiple occasions. I don't claim to know it's providence, and think it is likely some sort of subconscious mental trick, but I do know that it can work very effectively when the normal means of radio detection are not an option.

    • @Cthulhu013
      @Cthulhu013 2 года назад +1

      @@newtonbomb It's not better though. It's been tested. Controlled studies on the matter don't show any reliability. If you believe otherwise, there are still prizes offered from different organizations around the world looking to reward anybody that can successfully demonstrate such phenomena under controlled conditions. What do you have to lose other than time? Especially if you walk away with pockets full of cash and having contributed to scientific knowledge?

    • @newtonbomb
      @newtonbomb 2 года назад

      @@Cthulhu013 I'm fairly confident under any controlled laboratory conditions I wouldn't perform any better than baseline chance would suggest, as those conditions would be specifically setup to isolate some actual empirical effect allowing the normally purported mystical dowsing ability for materials, which I highly doubt actually exists. What I do know is that in the real world, not an isolated laboratory setting, it has actual pragmatic use given a few conditions gathered from my experience:
      1. Used to locate water lines specifically, at least that is the only use I've done it successfully for.
      2. Prior knowledge of a general area (even if quite large) and vague direction (ie. from this general point on a house to where the water main hookup should tacitly be located, or some similar situation) of where the lines should be running
      3. If water can be made to flow through the line it seems to make a difference in accuracy and reliability, especially when attempting to locate 90° turns and the like.
      I've used it in this manner multiple times in such a fashion that should I just guess and mark where I consciously think the lines are, I would have been way off from where I dowsed them to correctly be (within + or - 10" or so generally). What the actual mechanism causing it to work effectively in that narrow use case is, I have no real idea; it could be some power of the subconscious mind to pick up on subtle clues my conscious mind cannot, such as tiny vibrations, sounds, or minute landscape/vegetation changes, or it could be some electric/dielectric field interaction. I'm not sure, and don't really care tbh if it works 🤷

    • @newtonbomb
      @newtonbomb 2 года назад

      I should also say that I believe it possible that someone else could also achieve reliable practical in the field dowsing ability based on a set of conditions that they gather from their own experience, and that I could also possibly build a system for using it in other cases should I have the time and need to put in the work to do so. I'd rather, and would rather others, just use an actual radio electromagnetic field effect locator or GPRS when possible which is 99.9% of the use cases I run into and no doubt the same for others.

  • @stinkymccheese8010
    @stinkymccheese8010 Год назад +1

    If I remember correctly the twigs used were typically willow, but may well have varied depending on what you are looking for.

  • @gracesews876
    @gracesews876 2 года назад +2

    the fact that Brian had to google it actually hurts my soul

  • @anarkizt
    @anarkizt 2 года назад +1

    The game show should be titled “Dowse or Douse” and the gag is if you get it wrong you get doused in water.

  • @user-md3is4dq2d
    @user-md3is4dq2d 2 года назад +2

    I think dowsing rods translate “gut feeling” to a continuous readout of direction.

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      All of the physics involved in dowsing and metal detecting are one and the same. Read the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition and learn how to build the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod for using the physics explained and become a professional dowser.

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 Год назад +1

      @@michaelfercik3691 Michael, you wrote the goddamn book. I don't trust any of that coming from you.

  • @kd7jhd
    @kd7jhd 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for the informative and entertaining video. BTW, When are we going to see you guys on the Skeptics Guide to the Universe again?

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +3

      Shoot! I should reach out to the gang!! -BB

    • @kd7jhd
      @kd7jhd 2 года назад +3

      @@ModernRogue I bet Steve would be open to reviewing some of the things you discussed in this video. Especially the part about pseudoscientific survival kits.

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      I’d be down 😊

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki 2 года назад +2

    4:20 yeah dowsing rods are like a poor man's version of Jack Sparrow's compass; it shows you what you want most.

  • @Ramonatho
    @Ramonatho 2 года назад +17

    I can't wait to see Brian covering Masterworks on world's greatest con in a few years.

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 2 года назад +1

      Why is it a scam exactly?

    • @Ramonatho
      @Ramonatho 2 года назад +4

      @@MrPacman64 never believe anything that promises "partial ownership" of anything. You don't own it. You hold a share of something that you cannot materially do anything with other than sell. You cannot change, manipulate, or otherwise alter said thing they claim you "own".

    • @mikey9164
      @mikey9164 2 года назад +3

      The greatest cons are the ones that are technically legal right?

    • @skepticallypwnd
      @skepticallypwnd 2 года назад +1

      If it's a scam then so is capitalism... Oh wait. But seriously, it's no different than any other investment/stock market.

    • @carsond7870
      @carsond7870 2 года назад +1

      @@skepticallypwnd this is not a good opinion friend. You should hold yourself to a higher standard. This is a predatory company that uses deception and high rates to make it easy to put money in and difficult to withdraw.

  • @IamNerfDart
    @IamNerfDart 2 года назад

    Bruh Jason went full Anakin mode with the "I don't like sand" at the end.

  • @SourceOfBeing
    @SourceOfBeing 2 года назад +2

    I was expecting all 5 barrels to have sand

  • @HughStLeger
    @HughStLeger 2 года назад +1

    Brian found water but it was poisoned,Jason survived

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +1

      on nutritious, nutritious sand.

    • @HughStLeger
      @HughStLeger 2 года назад

      @@ModernRogue love that y'all replied,love from Ireland and you'll last 3 days without water, you'll shit yourself to death on bad water in two

  • @ForensicCats
    @ForensicCats Год назад +1

    They actually do not find water but it's the voids!
    I accept this challenge and have used these in the field fir years!- finding underground pipes and electrical.
    I accept yout challenge for as little as $10,000.00.
    You bury the pipe, take nme to the location and say it's a 10 foot pipe burried two feet deep.
    I will reveal it's location and if not, I will pay you $10,000.00 and if i find it, you'll pay me $10,000.00 plus my travel expenses.
    This is not a joke and you can do the video live!
    We split the video profits 50/50 ...
    We will both escrow the $10,000.00 so no way to back out.
    I can even explain your bucket test flaws .. .

  • @adamnichols476
    @adamnichols476 2 года назад +1

    that plumber comment makes no sense, even if they blamed the rods, they are still responsible.

  • @mh_vegas
    @mh_vegas 2 года назад +10

    Storytime! I used to run a backhoe on a gas pipeline crew. One day the town we were working in sent an official guy to paint lines on the ground to indicate where a giant water main was underground (for us to avoid it). He pulls out a set of dowsing rods, walks around a couple minutes, and marks the line. I raised one eyebrow like really dude? This guy was a very cool old-timer and he just laughed and carefully explained how it worked, even showing me his technique and letting me try. I still remember the feeling of them clearly and it was 30 years ago. Although I wasn't convinced until I dug up the area. He was right on the money.

    • @MGlBlaze
      @MGlBlaze 2 года назад +4

      The rational explanation is that the guy misattributed the effectiveness of his own memory to the effectiveness of the dowsing rods. He already knew where the lines were, presumably because he had either marked them out multiple times before, or otherwise was familiar with their placement, and he unconsciously moved the rods in response to where he already knew they were.
      I'm sure he BELIEVED it was the dowsing rod's doing, but really it was all him.

    • @mh_vegas
      @mh_vegas 2 года назад +1

      @@MGlBlaze Perhaps! When he let me try his instructions were just like 'feel the water'; and at one point I was sure I felt them move. But I remained very skeptical, and was surprised at the accuracy of his markings. This was in an area with long stretches of wide new road. I had never considered that he may have inspected the line when it went in, it was covered up with a street and he was really accurate compared to average underground utility marking (like phone lines or power lines located with a detector tool).

    • @gregorybatz7297
      @gregorybatz7297 2 года назад +4

      My experience I that it works, but only for flowing water.

    • @foulphilosopher8624
      @foulphilosopher8624 2 года назад +6

      It worked for me every time for finding underground power

    • @gregorybatz7297
      @gregorybatz7297 2 года назад +1

      @@foulphilosopher8624 I used a Rigid Seektec for power lines. The transmitter used variable frequencies and you can determine depth fairly accurately. In approximately 18 months I only missed one electrical line.

  • @hollywoodhobie
    @hollywoodhobie 2 года назад +2

    I can't believe you had to google The Princess Bride, for shame.

  • @dustymcdust5095
    @dustymcdust5095 Год назад

    The rods don't find the water you do, they just act as an antenna between your frequency within you and what you seek to find

    • @chlorie0w061
      @chlorie0w061 Год назад +2

      1why doesn't everyone use it
      2it takes training
      1why don't plumbers use it
      2it isn't that easy
      1why do only untrained people use it
      2frequencies from the user
      1why can't machines measure them
      2magic

  • @bryanturner683
    @bryanturner683 5 месяцев назад +1

    Testing it on buckets is just stupid. they need to hire and independent person to take them out and have them look for sprinkler lines in a golf course. something they have no idea of, then you still have to account for the fact it doesnt work for everyone. This proves nothing.

    • @UberSpah
      @UberSpah Месяц назад

      What's the difference? Dowsers agreed to participate, meaning they are absolutely sure about their abilities and confident that they will work. Yet they don't.

  • @chuckolmstead2921
    @chuckolmstead2921 Год назад

    Fill all buckets with water, then put a roast in one of the buckets, cover the buckets and see what happens.

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 2 года назад

    The Princess Bride. Inigo Montoya asks his dead father to guide his sword and lets his sword lead him around.

  • @T0MA2EN
    @T0MA2EN 2 года назад +1

    i think the reason they seem to work is if you go far enough any direction you will most likely find water

  • @Radix.Strategy
    @Radix.Strategy 2 года назад +3

    You had me at Occultist Survival Kits. Love you guys!
    Edit: the real plumbers bring thermal sensors and run hot water to find the damg pipes. Fixed the problem. Winners.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад

      For surviving when the dark gods walk again unto our land

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      Occult Survivalist Kits! I gotta get to work on those!

  • @xhybridnoisebloomx1187
    @xhybridnoisebloomx1187 2 года назад +1

    definitely am sketched out by the sponsor here, would urge to reconsider

  • @fromthebackseat4865
    @fromthebackseat4865 Год назад

    Kinda weird how a channel which teaches people about scams so often has scammers sponsor them.

  • @urban1337
    @urban1337 2 года назад +1

    Props to Jason to for the ending I was not expecting.

  • @jebadia4518
    @jebadia4518 2 года назад +1

    the real move would've been to make all 5 buckets sand

  • @Ihahnsolo
    @Ihahnsolo 5 месяцев назад

    I believe the movie he was thinking of is Princess Bride when he finds the torture chamber in the tree with his fathers sword asking for his fathers direction (;

  • @BlockTechGold
    @BlockTechGold 2 года назад

    the princess bride when Indigo was looking for the Wesley

  • @ragerequiem6323
    @ragerequiem6323 2 года назад +1

    The number of people in the business of locating utilities that use these is truly horrifying and makes the number of lines that get cut make more sense

    • @ComradePhoenix
      @ComradePhoenix 2 года назад +1

      I didn't have to scroll much farther down in the comments to find someone saying they do precisely that.
      And it honestly explains so much why my local county once made me lose internet for a whole week when clearing out a drainage ditch.

    • @newtonbomb
      @newtonbomb 2 года назад

      @@ComradePhoenix to be fair, many times there is actually no scientific device or way to locate some types of underground utilities due to either materials or corrosion over time, so it is often not the workers fault. Sometimes you just have to dig slowly and hope you get lucky (which you don't always or often neccessarily).

    • @ComradePhoenix
      @ComradePhoenix 2 года назад

      @@newtonbomb In this case, there was no excuse. The ISP had little boxes along the road, and orange flags placed between them. Besides, doesn't 'call 811 before you dig' exist for a reason?

    • @newtonbomb
      @newtonbomb 2 года назад

      @@ComradePhoenix fair enough. They were probably just lazy and didn't dig down with a shovel to find it like they should've before they went at with the machine. Happens all the time, I work for an ISP and if I had a nickel for everytime our fiber got broke for just that reason I'd be more than a few dollars richer.

  • @jameswest6232
    @jameswest6232 2 года назад +6

    If I had a plumber come by and he pulled out a pair of rods, I would be taking photos before telling him to get out, he's not getting a cent, and if he or his company even tries to kick up a fuss about it, I'll be sharing those photos with the cops.

  • @noeljbass
    @noeljbass 5 месяцев назад

    Im 56 seconds in, and the movie you are looking for is Princess Bride. Don't know if you figure it out later in the video, but just for the record XD

  • @alwaysfallingshort
    @alwaysfallingshort 2 года назад +1

    My family are atheists, my dad is one of the most reasonable people I know. He still somehow believes in dowsing. He's very defensive too, the emperor isn't very certain about his new clothes. It's maddening. He is also a very intuitive, smart person--so his belief that it works comes from his actual knowledge and experience finding water as a driller/blaster. But it must be the rods, not his 50+ years of knowledge.

    • @alwaysfallingshort
      @alwaysfallingshort 2 года назад

      He's also not very self aware and its my opinion that it gives people more access to their subconscience, that's why people feel "funny" when they do it. They don't usually notice how much their brain works.

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  2 года назад +2

      that tracks, imo. -Brian

  • @Nefyoni
    @Nefyoni 2 года назад +1

    I was expecting them all to be sand

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 11 месяцев назад

    Quite clearly the minute movements in the hands are causing the rods to go where you want them, are expecting them to go. You should explain it to someone who's totally ignorant of the idea, that the rods spin AWAY from the water. And I guarantee you that's what you'd see in that person.

  • @bannablitz247
    @bannablitz247 Год назад

    I appreciate the idea of buying random artwork, but don't try and fool me into believing that billionaires are not just laundering money Mr. Modern Rogue Sir.

  • @ProductKingReviews
    @ProductKingReviews Год назад

    This randomly popped up when searching something else. Haven’t see that guy in over a decade back when I watched “Scam School” Podcast on my Zune when I was in High School. Wow! Blast from the past.

  • @jharuldsmythe
    @jharuldsmythe 2 года назад

    the movie Brian was thinking of at the start is Adam Sandler's Click

  • @alexandernovakovic6075
    @alexandernovakovic6075 2 года назад

    it was an episode of loony tunes, elmer fudd was using a sword to find bugs.

  • @greengaleproductions
    @greengaleproductions 2 года назад +3

    (DISCLAIMER: NOT AN EXPERT)
    I think the reason it works (or at least worked in the past) is because humans have an innate intuition that we either ignore or distrust. By using a tool that is mostly chaotic (like Dowsing Rods or Pendulums), your intuition meets with your ideomotor response and you end up being able to visualize your intuition and making it more likely to guess correctly and confidently.
    AGAIN, I am not an expert, I literally haven't researched this since about a decade ago.

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      Not gonna lie. I kinda dig this theory 😊

  • @BeastOfTraal
    @BeastOfTraal 2 года назад

    I was expecting all the buckets to be sand.

  • @patrickhodson8715
    @patrickhodson8715 2 года назад

    Some of my coworkers definitely come to work with a negative -energy- measurable capacity to do work

  • @codys6409
    @codys6409 Год назад

    I don't know almost anything about dowsing, but this doesn't seem like a fair / accurate test.... And these people were clearly biased going into this.

  • @allenthiele1804
    @allenthiele1804 2 года назад +1

    I love that scene in Die Hard.

  • @jwayneair
    @jwayneair Год назад

    Funny how they “don’t” work.. when I was a kid, my dad had professional well drillers come out a drilled for a well based on geological surveys and got nothing. Then he had a waterwitcher come out with his dowsing rods, marked a spot, drilled there and got water at 4 gpm at a shallower depth than the first hole was drilled to. Later drilled deeper and the well had 12 gpm. Multiple people tried it, and no matter how tight the rods were held, they still turned at the same place, all while not knowing for certain if there was water there. But yeah, somehow it didn’t work. 🤷‍♂️

    • @UberSpah
      @UberSpah Месяц назад

      You can find water almost everywhere if you drill deep enough.

  • @salimufari
    @salimufari Год назад

    The damn Princess Bride when Inyego is trying to find "the Man in Black". SMH

  • @ghosttheexplorer
    @ghosttheexplorer 2 года назад

    My dad worked for the watter company, he had dowsers...

  • @jacobyspurnger8488
    @jacobyspurnger8488 2 года назад +1

    I could 100% see this being a challenge on the survivor show

  • @jhonda1956
    @jhonda1956 5 месяцев назад

    Humans are 97% water and dont see an issue with a handheld water detecting device 😂😂😂😂

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Год назад

    Oh fuck I feel so stupid right now! I see him hold the coat hangers loosely in his hand and I am literally like: “why again did I make those from brass rod and a live or brass pipe where I slid a pipe as a handle and tapped a brass ball on the bottom for the 4 pairs I used in my show?!” I could’ve just had to bend the thin brass bar and be done.” Damn… where were you guys 15 years ago 😂😂😂
    I actually used 4 individuals and what I did was covertly also looking who was the most open for suggestion for the suggestion/hypnosis bit later on. And I would keep the two best and have 5 “dove pans ;)” and had them dowse usually. The most suggestive person went second so seeing the first person’s rods cross would unconsciously also do for them. Sometime with a little suggestive nudge. And then you have a seeming miracle that they both found 1 “dove pan” with water (is actually used oil) and the others empty. If they’d disagree I’d urge them to try and come to a consensus. But 4 out of 5 times that wasn’t even necessary.

  • @heckensteiner4713
    @heckensteiner4713 2 года назад +1

    50% of the time it works 100% of the time.

  • @therandomguy9774
    @therandomguy9774 2 года назад

    Theoretically letting your subconscious brain take control over that could in theory help you (very much just in theory) for example in your peripheral vision you saw some water far away, your conscious brain didn't "perceive" it but your brain still decided to remember it

  • @SmashedHatProject
    @SmashedHatProject 2 года назад +1

    I like Joe Diamond bringing his showmanship to the scientific-adjacent test

    • @JoeDiamondLive
      @JoeDiamondLive 2 года назад

      Thank you 😊

    • @michaelfercik3691
      @michaelfercik3691 Год назад

      One big problem. No professional dowsers on this video. Read The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition book to learn the physics involved in dowsing for yourself becoming a professional dowser.