Divers React to Insane Short videos
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Entangled on fishing net and close their air? WHY?!?
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Hey guys! Brazilian subscriber here, the last video says, in a rought translation of course, something along the lines of: "diving with low/no visibility and tangled up is not for everyone", and it was recorded in a state called "Pará". Keep up with the great content/reactions!
Até aqui, no dive talk, tem que brotar Br fazendo bosta... kkkkkk nem nesses conteúdos mais aleatórios a gente se salva.
I’m Brazilian too and to add some comment, that video is related with firefighters that are training for dive (CMAUT). Crazy training!!!
Que vergonha...
And apparently, this is a firefighter rescue course...
@@algummarcosvinicius verdade 😂
He says "Diving without visibility and with entanglement is not for everyone" then "CMAUT" which is some sort of entity "from Para" where Para is a region in Brazil
Yeah, he took his students down there to let them know a portion of the panic they would feel if they weren't careful and something went wrong.
For the second video, wrapping in fishing nets, safety divers nearby. And don’t cut of air. I think it’s ok to train. We dive in poor vis cleaning fish nets from wrecks. Getting entangled is easy. So better to train for it in a controlled environment.
But for sure that is is not for a standard rescue class.
I don’t dive but that casual conversation you guys imitated about cave diving really doesn’t sound crazy to me.
Hey Gus and woody long time no see I’ve been busy but I miss the vidz keep up the good work I’m gonna check your feed see if you made that restriction you were talking about
It's the PADI fish net survival course
$350. 2 theory sessions
2 pool dives
And the final open water dive,you get ran over by a trawler.
Second video is actually the Brazilian Fire Brigade Rescue course for their rescue team (CMAut). Bear also in mind that in Brasil the Fire Brigade is a Military Branch, so this is actually a military training.
The corses change depending on the state. Some of those CMAut courses last 500 hours spread in 13 weeks.
Yea, i think gus and woody are looking at this wrong. I would agree that this would be inappropriate for a rescue course, but the military might have a reasoning for this training. Not sure what are their specific missions, and might be reasonable in their region and the tasks that they do. The fact that it is in a controlled environment with probably many instructors around them makes it a pretty safe exercise. The same way he closed the air he could open at any second.
I had similar training with my rescue course.
Fishing nets on wrecks can be a real nightmare, what we probably didn't see is the ditch, untangling then re-don.
1st video: Thanks for the credit on my video lol. They followed my line down so I couldn’t pull it. I followed them to get them out.
I'm not familiar with that cave. They used your primary reel to reach the main line? Jezus.
Did you talk to them after they got out? How'd that go?
Sheesh. Thanks for sharing and yikes.
Hope you did speak up and say something to them..
Or even piont them to all the YT vids of when it goes wrong..
Good job to follow them! I could see you did at the end of the video
This was 100ft from the surface. No idea how far they got in. I once saw a guy running a DPV in the gallery at Ginnie with no scuba tank. He had a single AL40 in the sand he would scooter over to and take a breath off occasionally. I could not get away from that disaster waiting to happen fast enough. Safe diving!
Haven’t seen Gus in a video in a while & WOW! You’ve lost a ton of weight. It shows in your cheeks. Congratulations & keep it up. I’ve lost a ton of weight myself & can respect the effort it takes.
exactly what I thought. Haven't watched for like three months, hope everything is alright and weight loss is intentional. Good job man!
I thought so too. Looking good Gus!
@@martinpilda Until you get sick and people judge you for it.
@@rafaeltorre1643 ?
@@rafaeltorre1643 lol wut
Gus looking like he’s getting in shape!! Keep up the good work man
Gus!! I haven't tuned in for a little bit and you are noticeably slimmer! I'm going to assume this is positive and not due to some awful health issue, so congrats :)
I think an important factor of "do you step in or not" is to also take into consideration the following factors: time and stress. Depending on how you interact with people, you could also increase the chance of a possibly fatal accident. Confronting them takes time - time that they might be already short on because their air is running out. Especially when they are on the way out. And that's where the second factor stress comes into play. Stress through a confrontational situation elevates heartbeat and breathing rate. It also could lead to fight or flight reactions when they are feeling "found out" or something like this. In every case, the situation is getting more critical and dangerous than it already was.
So long story short: offering support or guidance or even a polite "what you do is not safe - please stop it" could make the situation less dangerous. But beeing too confrontational could lead to disaster.
Your comment reminds me of when my dad was supervising my driver's ed and a particular night drive along a curvy cliffside road...he was silent for the drive but when we got home said, "You need to work on spatial awareness - your right tires were at least an inch off the pavement edge in these places." I freaked out and asked why he hadn't said anything in the moment and his response was, "I thought you'd panic and overcorrect and then over correct again, sending us off the edge you were doing a good job of staying on".
There is a VERY solid argument to be made not to startle the horses in dangerous situations even when the person is doing something stupid and dangerous.
The second video is kinda wild but also how do you train people not to panic when panic is the correct response? Putting them in a " controlled " version of the scenario is pretty standard.
My 2 cents from Germany: I've actually heard of a similiar drill being done by an instructor during a SDI Solo Diver certification in the UK. Diving in the north and baltic sea, entanglement by ghost nets and fishing line is a real threat that can realistically happen to you. One might argue that cutting their air supply is too much, but I do think that it's better to experience something like entanglement for the first time in a relaitively safe training environment compared to the dark and cold open sea.
I love Woody's attitude, no ego, it's the best way to be especially in showbiz, as a musician myself, With anything really
Gus's laughter after seeing the instructor entangling the students and closing their air is absolutely contagious!🤣
I’m not a diver at all but love your guys videos and have actually learned a lot from them. If I were a cave diver I think I would be pretty upset about non cave divers in a cave. It’s very dangerous for the untrained not only do they put their life in danger but also put whoever nigh have to go rescue them too. And like you guys said they rush getting the cave shut down for all the certified divers. Some people just don’t think
i know for a fact both woody and gus are better divers than i am. I would really enjoy taking either of their classes.
If someone dies in a cave, it'll be closed for everyone else, plus also you risk government regulation, and when does that ever go well? As always it's a case of 'there's always that one guy who has to ruin it for everyone else'.
Gus looks half the man he used be even from just months ago.....And I bet he's all the healthier for it (Not saying you wasn't healthy before as you were more active than most people anyway I'd bet,but now you've got the physique to go with it.Looking great chief 👍
My man Gus is losing some weight huh? Looking good ma Dud!
PS: That second video of people entangling themselves in net under water is in Brazil...apears to be some kind of training for rescue divers. The translation to that portuguese text is: "Diving with no visibility and with obstacles to stuck you is not for everyone". "CMAUT do Pará" means "Curso de Mergulho Autônomo de Resgate" or "Recue Diving Course" of the Brazilian State of Pará. You guys may think this is dangerous....but since it is made by professionals, trust them...Here in Brazil we are kind of "ninjas" LOL
Waking up to a new Dive Talk is always a good way to start the day. Thanks, guys.
I only know this because I just finished my Intro to Cave (in side-mount doubles) and it's fresh in my mind, but in the TDI book, it stated you can complete Intro to Cave on a single high-capacity tank back-mounted, but it has to have an H-valve or Y-valve, so you have two fully independent regulators. That being said, I seriously doubt they were even cavern certified based on what you could see in the video. I do feel like I got ripped off in my Rescue class though. I didn't have to risk death to pass it - that's
A roommate of mine was, as he was walking out. The door told me I’m going bass, jumping with some friends of mine. I said have you ever parachuting? He said no. I said what the hell are you talking about? You’re going to bass jumping? He said you jump off you pull the cord, what could go wrong? That is a true statement. He ended up not doing the best job, and it’s still alive…
Hello, I'm Portuguese, in the second video the caption says: "diving without visibility and with entanglements is not for everyone", I assume it's a strange diving lesson with low visibility, or night diving.
Thanks guys for this video. I love this content and would like to see more of it, specifically react videos. If you guy s want to hit a million subscribers sooner than later. I would recommend more react videos. It does not hurt your brand, and it provides short videos where engagement can be high. The commentary you guys provide keeps an audience watching. Keep banging these out. You are on to something.
Thanks and we agree!
Totally. These reaction videos are irresistible!
Gus did you lose weight? You look so great today! You too Woody ❤
He's looking in good shape!
Great content as usual and great feedbacks from you guys!! Awesome❤
That Grim Reaper Chain Gus is wearing is sick!!! Is that the same Grim Reaper that is on the signs you see before you enter an underwater cave??
Yes
Watching while at work. I am doing my cavern class the week after Easter I’m north Florida. So ready to start my cave journey since I started diving in 2016.
Congrats! Please stay safe!
It's funny when you had the discussion about what would you do if you saw someone who was obviously not cave cert in a cave. And I loved the discussion, but i definitely wonder what would Edd Sorenson do WWESD. I could totally see him either man handling someone out of a cave, or using his level 10000 badass perk to calm and persuade the diver to exit the cave and get proper training.
I'm not a diver, but your videos have inspired me to look into getting certified.
Just for educational purposes I would love to explain to you guys how i almost died at the Blue Grotto in Florida. You would think that’s not a normal occurrence but that dive went down hill really fast.
Reach out to them by email, they might not see your comment here. That sounds like a great story worth sharing.
You know how they put the danger signs inside the caves to warn divers of a possible death? I have an idea and maybe its dumb but it's just a thought.
Before I download a game on PC and spend that money, the developers will provide the "minimum requirements" list, so that I know whether or not I'm equipped enough to handle the game, before I buy it.
How about a professional "minimum requirements" sign outside of the cave, so that those who may not know all that they'll need for this particular cave/dive can reference it? Or maybe even just a simple a simple check-list/reminder?
I'm not a diver so I don't know but I feel something like that could only be helpful. Just some sort of a guide or... something.
Can't hurt.
In one of their other videos of a Florida cave there is a plaque and the divers (not certified) just go right past it and break several of the rules of the cave. It might help some but definitely not all people.
Gus your looking skinnier, you losing weight? Looking good!
Gus looking healthy with all the weight he has lost! Now he can get through smaller passageways hopefully lol.
Have you thought about how maybe letting those uncertified cave divers into the cave could not only put themselves in danger but other people as well who are certified to cave dive? What if one of them gets lost, panics, and silts the place out and or gets wrapped up in the line or even worse breaks it causing others to get lost. I AM NOT A CAVE DIVER so what I’ve just said may have been stupid but was something I thought about. Anyway, great video guys!
Talk about restrictions but how about Mr. Gus restricting his caloric intake!? Looking good Gus and keep up the good work, both you guys for all that you do. 👍👊
I restricted carbs to 20g/day and lost 110 lbs in a year. Ketosis is incredible!
OMG GUS!! You look like you have lost at least 60 punds!! What happened!? Still looking fresh both of you :)
Wauw Gus. You lost some weight🙌👌
I was about to post the same reaction.
@@tvpromo1 i always called him the little round guy. But that's the past.
@@elephantprotector no apologies. Facts are Facts😉. Butt I love the two🙏
@@elephantprotector amen🙏😚
Looking good Gus!! I need to lose weight to but I can def see your slimmer!!
Every video on this channel feels like hanging out with two longtime friends. A few video ideas I’d personally _love_ to see you guys cover (with a trademark woody hat!!):
•• diving videos on people with physical disabilities- both with video reaction, and hopefully an interview with the person, who’ve either:
adapted their diving (kits, style etc) to accommodate a new disability e.g amputation or;
Learned to first dive with a disability e.g person who is blind or paraplegic z
It’s such a freeing craft, the closest most of us will get to being astronauts in space, & I think that’s what attracts a lot of disabled people- the physical freedom & equality we don’t share when on ground.
•• if you haven’t already, interview Aussie former paratrooper & bomb disposal navy diver Paul de Gelder, who survived a 700pound bullshark attack in Sydney harbour, losing an arm and leg. He’s a phenomenally wonderful, successful man using his experience for so much good. And just a generally magnetic character!
•• I’d also love to see you do a video on the Aussie pearl divers off of Broome, Western Australia.
My uncle was one of these pearl divers, post 1960. So far as we know, Australian pearl diving started in the 1850’s, by our Indigenous Australians.
Historically they retrieved the pearl oysters by freediving. Later on, surface supplied diving helmet was used, & this is where barotrauma & decompression sickness was first sort of ‘discovered’ as if were
From Wikipedia. _But In order to find enough pearl oysters, free-divers were often forced to descend to depths of over 100 feet on a single breath, exposing them to the dangers of hostile creatures, waves, eye damage, and drowning, often as a result of shallow water blackout on resurfacing_ .
_ By the 1890s, pearling was the largest industry in the region, and had a huge impact on coastal Aboriginal Australians and Torres Strait Islander peoples_
_Because of the dangers of diving, almost no white people participated, and Asian, Pacific, and Indigenous Australians were used as cheap labor for the industry_
_Shells were the main aim for collection, and the whole industry was essentially a colonial one geared to procuring mother-of-pearl for sale to overseas markets for the making of buttons. As time went on and sources were depleted, divers were encouraged to dive deeper, making the enterprise even more dangerous_
_Divers experimented with the heavy diving suit, discarding the full diving suit and using the helmet and corselet only, which became standard practice until 1960. "Hookah" gear, tested to 48 fathoms (87 metres) in 1922, was considered unsuitable for the strong tides in these waters, and the later Scuba equipment did not supply enough air to spend the time required underwater and for decompression while surfacing_
Love your channel as always. Big love from down under
Wow, great video suggestions! That is fascinating about the pearl diving--never heard about it before.
Gus looking healthy bro! love the content keep it up guys :)
That second one brought back entanglement /flooded mask panic memories at depth. Don't recommend it. Saved once again by a really good buddy.
As a non diver never mind a cave diver, i love you guys and your videos.. It gives the likes of me a window into your crazy world which i wish i was man enough to do..!!
Thank you both for all the videos and please keep them coming... Love from Ireland..
That was a firefighter training session for extreme situations with entanglement and no visibility, similar to military random situations training, they are not students and it is supposed to be like that :)
I hate it when I go for a dive and I die. It sucks.
It's also embarrassing, somewhat.
I wish there was a universal sign language for "hey we are instructors/professionals and see a potential issue with your gear that you might not be aware of, we do not recommend you go any further but if you insist we won’t stop you" lol. If I was going into a situation and someone as experienced as Gus and Woody saw me doing something I didn’t realize was as dangerous as it is, I would want them to stop me :(
Idiots dont know theyre idiots though..
This
It's tricky, though. A person who is doing that in real life is a lot less likely to recognize the validity of their concern--they don't know what they don't know.
I am not a diver, never been in the water. Never even had an interest in diving as I have a crazy fear of the idea being underwater like that. But they make it so interesting and educational, I just love the videos. And as a new viewer wow Gus your lookin good brother! Whatever your doin keep up the good work guys. You are reaching and educating even dummies like me 😅
I just want to tell you guys that you've made me want to dive sooo much that I already started to saving money for it. Diving courses are not cheap! Thank you guys for spreading so much love for water and thank you for your knowledge
If you guys are ever in Florida, have you considered diving some of the wrecks with a salvage crew?
I swear I go through every emotion watching these videos 😂 I've been binge watching them every night with my fiance. Thanks for sharing! 🙏🤙🏼
First time back to the channel in a while and Gus is looking sharp my guy! 💪
Gus & Woody, another fun video, thank you. I love watching it when you two are laughing. That's actually my favorite part. Love you guys!
how physically demanding is this practice? could someone explain the general physical fitness requirements for the different types of diving? I am 40 with injuries and can no longer do BJJ. I took to riding a motorcycle for a few years after my last injury but it is not the same kind of stress relief i want. I have been watching your videos and have always been curiously excited about diving...But I dont want to waste my time to learn and invest if it is going to risk myself and others because of a bad shoulder and knee. I almost feel like cave diving would require less physical and more mental strength while lakes and oceans would require more physical than mental...i have this assumption based on things like your reactions to swimming techniques in the cave. I am just looking for a new passion that I wont have to give up on it. Your hobby seems to fit the bill. There is required knowledge, even with the knowledge there are challenges with real risks, there is specific methodology and techniques involved etc. all of that was true for BJJ, and the thinking through the challenge and whole process was like hitting the reset button on stress and anxiety and depression...everything was baseline or better every time it was over and I was always better for the experience. I want something like that again...any input anyone has on this? I live in NY just a short drive from Lake Erie and many other bodies of water that are unexciting generally speaking but that all post their own learning experiences to help me build up to a more conventional diving location...Like I could see me doing it, but I dont know how demanding it is on joints like a shoulder or knee as mine are not up to par with the normal person.
My two favourite people on RUclips! Love you guys! 🤙🏼🤍 AWESOME CONTENT 😁
Luv the chain gus !!!
2nd video. Would that be specialty training for specific situations? Like maybe these divers dive fishing wrecks to recover equipment or treasure hunting and finding nets is common. Maybe?
It actually is. It's the Brazilian Fire Brigade Rescue course for their rescue teams.
So I haven't watched in awhile but is it just me or is gus getting really skinny?? If so, go get em gus! Looking good man!
I've been watching your videos for the last 2 months and I love the knowledge and the synergy between you guys! If you want to come to Portugal to dive, tell me! Eheh cheers
I don't think there should even be a question or "stigma" around stopping someone woefully under prepared entering a cave. I don't think it even has anything to do with "confrontation" , its COMMON SENSE. At least to me, like... That is heroic to stop and save them from themself. I would treat it like a burning building. You have all the fire gear, air tank, etc to enter a burning building are you going to watch someone in a t-shirt and shorts rush by you to jump into the building? I wouldn't.
Good Morning Guys! 😊
It's definitely an entire problem across the whole of society that too many people are offended by constructive criticism. I understand the struggle to answer this one. Ppl are stubborn.
Oh NOT the worst instructor video! 😂😂😂 You guys are just soft and opposed to "tough love" 😂
Apologies....satire^😂
According to google it means
"Diving without visibility and with
tangles are not for everyone"
And I'm not sure but it might be from the "department of public security and social defense of Ceará State" (a state of brasil). So maybe a military or professional rescue training?
But that would be CBMCE not CMAUT. So it might be something else. It would help to know who uploaded it, I can't find the original video.
Can see the argument for twins. In the caves I dive in Thailand, we do dive single back mount tank on a wing with a bail out. Still do rule of thirds, but our penetration depth is usually max 250m at a depth of 15-20m
So, I did a little googling and the second video is from a rescue diver training for the fire department for the state of Pará, in Brazil. Since that state is located in the Amazon region, my guess is they must do underwater work on rivers and such, so entanglement might be a real concern.
Last video in Portuguese: "Dive without visibility and tangled is not meant for everyone. CMAUT from Pará(state in the north of Brazil)"
SO it looks like they are blind folded on top of it 😅😅😅
Hey, guys!! Brazilian subscriber speaking!! Someone has already translated the subtitle of the video!! I’m just here to say that it seems to be fire department training! Anyway, I dont think it’s usual at all 😂 but .. just to make it clear or, hopefully, less weird! 😂
Not gonna lie- it’s hard for me to be on the side of “if they wanna die, let them” (for about a hundred reasons) but imagine they really don’t know how much danger they’re in. Imagine they were taught improper preparation. Idk. It’s hard for me to just say well, let them die it’s their life. It’s hard for me to even say I care more about the diving spot being restricted for others with proper gear and knowledge, I wouldn’t…want…someone to die, when I could have helped. If they decided to go in anyway, at that point id be more willing to say ok…I tried, and they chose to risk it, not much else I can do short of truly policing their choices and decision to dive w less than safe precautions taken. Not saying this is what yall are saying, I just struggle to relate to people saying oh just let em die its their choice…Yes, it is…but that’s…still a whole human life. Person probably has family/friends/spouse etc, i think they’d be grateful if someone stopped their loved one from making a fatal mistake/decision. Just my 2 cents
Gus, I thought you said you were Catholic? Are you worshiping La Muerte or The reaper on your necklace?? That is absolutely grave sin. Just so you know, you are dealing with demons.
May God protect you both Woody and Gus.
WOODYY!!!💦 Where did you get you « I AIN’T U» Beanie?? I’ve been looking for it everywhere!😹
Unrelated question… I’ve seen you guys plug ideco pro before, can that app be used for open water recreational diving or is it for Tech divers only? Don’t wanna spend the ten bucks if I can’t use it for recreational!!! Thanks in advance!!!!
The problem is, nowadays, unless the person drowns, in which case you TOTALLY should have done something, and the internet will flame you for it, or you are just a nosey Karen that should mind your own business, and the internet will flame you for it.
I know its SUPER hard, but at one point you need to be able to look their mothers in the eyes and say "there was signs everywhere. They knew how dangerous it was and that they shouldnt be there. Its 100% their fault".
But its easier to just slap gate and a lock.
I don’t do any dives deeper than 100ft on a single cylinder. As for the second video, it looks almost like a military training dive. If you look closely, both divers appear to have the exact same kit. Looks like military issue equipment for training. If that’s the case, military divers go though some weird shit and I wouldn’t question it. Lol.
Sorry Mark but I think you gave her way too much depth and credit. I'm fairly certain she said "blue-eyed white dragon". Not belied. And I think the white dragon is a similar idea to the white devil. Where they're just calling her an evil blue-eyed white person. The blue eyed and white are both putting emphasis on how different she is from them physically.
So, completely unrelated field, but I have a lot of experience with parentings doing a certain thing (I don't want to be specific but im not in the mood for being yelled at). When I see that something is unsafe, I realize I may not be the most popular person, but in a safe of unsafe use, it could result in major injury or death. I suppose I stick my nose into things, but I say something when I see someone doing something unsafe (but, again, Im that mom that tells kids to have bike helmets and if they don't own one, i give them one to wear,..im kind of protective like that).
As far as what young people "used to do", we used to walk across a bridge a train frequently crossed, with no protective areas in case a train and no idea of the train schedule. Was that stupid? Absolutely? Would I say something if I saw kids doing this. I would probably be screaming at them. But, like I said, maybe I'm just a big mouth and don't like to think later "maybe if i had said something..". Not that is how you guys look at it, just thought i would give you a different perspective. Also, if your goal is to keep caves open, its in your best interest to say something. Win...win. Even if they dont heed your advice, at least your conscience is clear.
Yes!!! Heading to work I can’t walk much today my lower back and legs hurt so I get to relax and watch RUclips today! I had surgery in November on my lower back so yeah I can’t do much
On second video gotta add “no vis” to entangled and out of air.
Apparently they where blind folded and it says no visibility ( sem visibilidade )
“Brasileiros sao foda kkk”
Brazilians are F*ed up. Lol. As a Brazilian I can attest to that.
Can you guys pls make a video about the Deep Sea Expeditionary with No Decompression (DSEND) suit??
Diving caves etiquette is similar to elevator etiquette. Allow those exiting to proceed before entering. Makes sense.
unlike on the subway where the etiquette seem to be "all rush into the tram, making sure people cant get off"
*Me, watching the 1st vid, where the only stuff I know about diving is what I learned from watching dive talk*: freakin' noobs
Well, that's what they do in the US Navy SEAL training. They tie off their air and entangle them. It's training on how to remain calm. They don't expect you to be able you to clear the airway, but they want you to go through the steps to clear everything. And then they give you to go ahead to surface. And if go up without being cleared, guess what! You get to do it again. Now granted this is a crazy military training, not civilians.
It wouldn't make any difference to me, whether there's flow in this one. I would just be careful and move around carefully. That way, I don't even have to think about it. And, even then, something will happen.
well, if One is prone to Diving With or in Scenarios, where others would Threaten, Attack with Net ....
Does this teacher do Movies? Seems more like a 'Sea Hunt' show. : }
First video: I legit was like "why did he giggle?" The a second later it hit me and I was like "hold up! Were those just on his back????" 😂 I did that meme where the guy blinks but irl lol
In the second video it says: "Diving without visibility and being entangled is not for the regular person"
First video, if the where on their way in. I would stop them. I’m not a confrontational guy, but having them die and knowing I did nothing.. if there already on their way our I would just signal ok and hope they respond ok. I would not stop them on their way out, that could potentially escalate things. Maybe I would follow them out to the cavern zone. Depends on the cave and navigation.
But hey at least the brought a pony bottle 🙊
I just hope the divers getting tangled in the net were not experiencing their first try dive haha XD for real though are you supposed to maybe stop and check divers if they are heading into a cave with clearly incorrect equipment (and training judging from the right of way issue at exit..) what if you passed them and later found out they got lost! Very interesting point for discussion!!
just food for thought on your stop no stop talk. If you approached a diver or two inadequately equipped for survival and asked them if they are OK??? or DO you guys need anything instead of stop we are the dive police turn around etc. Its all about how you approach them. Maybe you can get them to think before they do die. It sucks but a life is important, and we should never want people to meet their end out of such ignorance.
Wow gus you look great buddy! You too woody! But man gus is killing it!!!
I know! I think he lost weight!
I think the fact that it's even a risk that the authorities would close a cave because of the ignorant, selfish actions of one person just goes to show how utterly immature and inept the authorities are.
People are mortal. Doing _literally anything_ is dangerous to varying degrees. Doing something that is _obviously dangerous_ like going in to an environment where humans quite literally cannot survive, should always, _always_ come with an implicit ownership of culpability.
No one argues that mountains should be closed off when one idiot marches up there during a storm. It's frankly stupid that anyone even suggests it for _cave diving._ A far _less accessible_ sport that is _even more obviously_ dangerous. Shame on anyone who calls for punishing the many because of the foolishness of fools.
2nd video, dude probably saw a BUD/S course for Navy Seals where they f up your gear, toss you around, etc., and thought it was a good idea to replicate a terrible version of it.
11:12 they are part of Brazil firefighter rescue divers in the Amazon !!! THis is partt of their day job dealing with fishing nets in Amazon rivers!
the problem with trying to stop someone doing something dangerous is, they quite often will feel like they are not doing something dangerous and will not know you know a lot about the subject, they wont know you're an expert, to them you are just some random killjoy coming up to try to ruin their day.. they are probably more likely to do it. the only way you could stop them is maybe before they get in where you can try to discuss it, show how experienced you are and offer them advice, suggesting not to do it rather than telling them not to do it. for example.. i constantly get people moaning at me for climbing walls or trees, thinking its dangerous.. yes it is... but im reasonably good at climbing.. it could go wrong, but if it does, its pretty rare and them saying beforehand not to do it, doesnt mean that i was dumb for not taking their advice.. ive already done it a 1000 times before and nothing happened.. you could fall down your own stairs in your house and break your neck.. so i could tell everyone constantly not to ever go upstairs and if they do eventually have an accident, tell them "i told you so".. its a ridiculous thing to do... and the problem is.. when u do know a lot and know they are really doing something dangerous liek a 50/50 chance of dying. they will just assume ur those other type of people who think everything is too dangerous and they will ignore you
When I learning diving in a pool our instructor would randomly shut my air off. And then I would reach around n turn it back on. And then he disconnect the regulator from tank. He would also pull our masks off and we would put it back on again. Lots of practicing.
Ya know, im right here up on 575 on exit 16. I'm really close to yall. I would love to take some classes taught by you guys.
It's obvious that's training like the Navy Seals do. They kick your ass down there too lol they drown you just for a little bit then bring you back. This is why our SEALS are the best of the fkn best on the planet
Just get a little blue/red flashing light and pull them over! Wee woo wee woo cave police. Second video the guy was a BUDS wannabe.
My two cents, and I’m a newbie cave diver, but if we don’t police our own community, then someone else will eventually end up policing it for us. I personally would rather we police ourselves, and so we should hold each other as divers accountable for obvious negligent and potential lethal activities.
Side note, what if you let someone that is ill equipped / trained pass you without intervention, they die, how would you feel about that? I wouldn’t want that on my conscience.
Not cave diving, but I HAVE told people off under water for going to places they shouldnt, but its been obvious that they were beyond their limits.
In one instance Ive told the dive ops and guides straight up that if a certain diver follow me, I take no responsibility for their safety as they would obviously not be able to do the type of diving me and my buddies does. We would trie to save their ass if all went sideways, but Id rather not have to...
I still think it’s nuts to dive into a cave. I understand there are those who train properly and perform that activity as safely as humanly possible. But, it’s so so so dangerous. I’m very excited to learn how to dive, but I will never enter a cave. I don’t even like watching videos on cave diving.