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He also needs a visual rework too.
I like his normal looks. Simple yet elegant but I wouldn't mind a deluxe version.
Yeah give him a general grievus helmet
I hope Nyx is the next in the rework list, but yes Caliban needs Pablo's Magic
They already unofficially confirmed its coming from pablo
If we talk about her 1st ability, I think it's great but needs 1 change. It is to make the little fella teleport to you on command rather than after some distance. Mind controlled enemy can handle some things on their own but the current automatic teleportation limits it's potential (the MOA units always want to fight so they tend to run to the enemies all the time) as well as confuses it's AI to change it's behaviour. My guess is to add a HOLD option to teleport the fella to you and give back the ability to do everything they want. I know it sounds dumb cuz it's 1st ability, but with enough buffs from damage and augment certain controlled enemies can handle things fine by themselves, and they tend to hold specific places for some reason. Overall, the teleportation is good but mostly bad in my opinion and experience. And by experience I talk about maining this chick since her old unreworked days
My opinion is that Oberon needs it more. Everyone says Caliban has worse versions of other frame's abilities, but that's literally Oberon, who's been clunky and held back for longer.
Oberon's problem is that he hasn't grown WITH the game, so he had weird limitations and a bad passive that aren't present in newer or reworked frames.
For instance:
Why do I get 4 tiny pieces of Hallowed Ground, when Protea and Hydriod can cast their coverage areas nonstop with the best damage statuses in the game to the point of creating instakill zones???? It's stuff like that that's his issue.
he was never good since day 1
Being a sentient frame, he has one of the coolest themes in Warframes universe. Yet, they somehow managed to completely gut him. It's almost as bad and uninspired as our endgame.
There's also banshee as well
From my perspective the only issue Banshee have is her totally outdated 4. Other abilities are okay. Im playing her with condemn and augments for 1 and 2. Really solid pick imo. DE just need to do something with 4.
I dunno i used him in steel path and netra cell runs and he was pretty damn good as just a shield tank and armor stripping, like its still FREE adaption on top of your adaptation. Its not that bad but its just a passive so not too important. At the end of the day alot of frames are copying one another some form or some way, when you get to this many frames that what happens but at the end of the day the important thing is 'staying alive', stripping armor and doing damage. IF you can do all three of those then its fine. Helminth is there to fix that issue. Caliban does not need more attention then say VALKYR, dont get me wrong her 2 and 4 are perfect its just that her 1 may as well be a blank spot and her 3 COULD be really good but its just so mechanically janky.
Caliban became my main now since The New War came out cause I actually like his kit (except for Razor Gyre) and he just so cool to use and pretty great design wise but it's just his passive and 1st I have a gripe but other than that he's my favorite plus with Nourish on his 1st it's amazing for me and is just feeling unbeatable
Caliban is one of my best frames for steel path. Granted his kit is a little clunky, but it has some synergies that you can take advantage that really go a long way. His biggest problem is how resource intensive he is, as he absolutely requires multiple umbra forma AND archon shards, whereas most of the other steel path viable frames mostly only require a single umbra forma and the archon shards are optional.
Once your build is fully invested in and completed, Caliban is an end-game viable MONSTER that excels at everything that doesnt require mobility.
My build involves 3 umbra forma (I know, noob trap, but hear me out!) because of the set bonus that having all 3 equipped provides; with all 3 umbra mods all you need is a single red shard power strength archon shard and the exilus mod power drift in order to achieve 100% armor/shield strip on his 4.
I spoke about synergy earlier; the set bonus gives you a good chunk of armor and hp, which combines with his passive (it should be 75% at least not 50 but its not a huge deal) for a deceptively large effective health pool.
his 1 being arguably the worst single ability in the game isnt a problem for me, because there's no question as to what to subsume for a different ability (i like firewalker, although saryn's molt works as well, as does eclipse in the video here.)
his 2 is a hand "oh shit" button if you ever find yourself cornered. it's a solid cone of aoe CC that buys you time to reposition.
his 3 is one of my favorite abilities in the game. The summons don't need to do damage; they provide overshields and most importantly THEY DRAW PRIORITY FROM THE ENEMY. This means instead of targeting you, an ally, or a defense objective, they target your summons. And I dont think I've ever seen a summon actually die earlier than it expired. It draws melee enemies into a nice group, and since the summons wander it gives whatever is attempting to survive some breathing room on higher levels which is very welcome.
Caliban's 3 is, in my opinion, one of the most useful and slept-on abilities in warframe.
i don't want caliban to get a rework. I'd LOVE for some buffs or some changes to lifted status, an enhancement on his passive. But to be clear, he absolutely doesn't NEED the buffs, he's extremely strong as it is.
I love him too, but he does need a bit of a rework, mostly make his 1st more viable and make his passive not decay. Also tie in his 1st with his 3rd for synergy. Otherwise i agree, i hit 2 the 4 rinse repeat. Natural talent and fleeting expertise!
After that one dev stream when someone asked a question on caliban in front of people wanting to try the game and on stream now its a must that they do or it just looks bad on them
If we talk about every type of mission with the exception of level cap, he is not as bad as selfgriefing/teamgriefing prime aka Limbo, Nidus who s mutations on non solo non camp scenarios are gl with that, and grendel that u can t even precast nourish with an enemy on his belly or go into atlas's boulder state dor the majority of mission.
I would get the sentient boy over those any day for my daily shinanigans.
I think there are ways to make him more consistent. Like i think every ability (except the spin) is actually not bad but they all have false which makes the whole kit feel weak. I think is 3rd should gives us away to assign a role to the sentient that we call like shield regeneration, attack mode and maybe a pull mode that draws in enemies (maybe even a synergies with the 2 where enemies hit by it would be pulled faster to the sentient point[i am where that thats not a typical sentient ability but look at caliban he needs help])
His first needs to change to i could here see a potential to synergies with the attack mode sentient. But i don't really n
Know what it could do to make it good.
I actually think his 2nd and 4th are already pretty good with more range and maybe a more visible effect area indicater for his 4th would be great
This is my favorite frame right now 😂
He’s not useless or anything, but his 2 is buggy as hell. If you’re running deadhead you might as well not use it, because the enemies are ragdolled for some reason. Not to mention the damage bonus feels a bit mid, but that’s subjective. Still, I don’t see the point in making enemies take more damage while also making them harder to hit.
His 3 spawns in sentient guys that are bad at killing shit, and are melee units. In order to properly use this ability, ya gotta use it for the shields, which means following them around because of Warframe’s bad ai. It’s good for shieldgating tho- at least in my opinion.
His 4 is by no means bad, but it costs 100 energy and there are other warframe abilities with at least some of the properties of his 4.
Lets not forget about his passive, which is just a worse (but also better) version of adaptation. No reason why this shouldn’t reach at least 75% DR, or stack with adaptation. You’re either stuck coping with 50% DR or you’re replacing it, and just bringing a passive that only affects your teammates.
Not only does he have one dogshit ability (razor gyre), he has four abilities that are all interesting but turn out to be mid.
Caliban could be so much better.
There are likely plans to rework Caliban, as Caliban Prime is coming up eventually. After Protea Prime comes Xaku Prime, and after that are Lavos Prime and Sevagoth Prime, then Yareli Prime and Gyre Prime. After those two primes would be Caliban Prime and Styanax Prime! Thing is, we'll have to wait until the second half of release rotation after this current one that began with Protea Prime...
pretty sure gyre was after caliban
@@RPZSTA Oh, I know! The prime release rotation is typically two female frames in release order then two male frames in release order...
I’ve never used caliban but Valkyr and Loki need major reworks
I haven't played caliban enough to have an opinion on him, I do think Frost and Banshee and maybe a few other older frames should get a rework first
Caliban is really cool… but unfortunately only on paper. I love his design and the ideas behind his abilities but none of it comes together in the end. I dumbed 11 Forma into him to no avail. If they are to rework him these are the core problems in my opinion after testing him for around 50 hours of trail and error. 1. his base energy is much too low for his needs. He needs to be able to cast a lot and his pool does not cut it at all. 2. He has no dump stat at all. He needs 200% power for his strip but cannot really afford to go below 100% in any other stat. His 4s base range is only 10m so minus range is a no no, his sentient companions cost 50 energy each so up to 150. Also base duration on both his 2 and 4 are not great. That means minus duration is also a no no. Just casting all of his abilities once surpasses his energy pool so negative efficiency is a real big no no. That being said 3. none of his abilities individually is good enough to build just for it like a Molecular Prime for example. He desperately needs his 2, 3 and 4 to function. 4. his 1… we don’t talk about his one. 5. I like his passive. But 50% is too low to replace a mod. In a world where a Hydroid can armor strip just with his passive I don’t get it. The passive should be 90% but it’s effect halfed for the team. Because he needs all the mod space he can get. 6. his sentients should get a damage buff against lifted targets and a slow against defense stripped targets. That would make them really useful. 7. his 4 needs a slightly higher base range. And then we can start talking about him being at least viable to use. And like I said I want to like him and dumbed a lot of time and resources into him. But in the end I had to admit to myself that it was a failed experiment and not worth the hassle
There's a handful of other frames that need a rework first
His power and survival is good, just needs identity and to be more fun to play. If his 1 was more like sandstorm rework we would be cooking.
I like his little shield minions, the tankyness with the ability to strip armor is just good. I think people just only look at 9999 runs or not. Like who cares? ive been playing warframe since the beginning and never done a 9999 run. Its not needed.
Fusion Strike paired with Tesla Bank is okay.
I would like him and banshee to get a rework
They should rename Caliban to Taliban, his one is a spammable RPG with terribad accuracy and his 4 is "S-vest" where he wipes the map but costs him one revive.
On a serious note; most frames are garbage. Just objectively. You might enjoy a certain playstyle, but for efficiency's sake you only really need a small handful to do all content easily.
- Give his passive more adaptability for himself and less for allies (80% for him and 50% for allies).
- The tornado should strip enemies armor and regroup just like inaros new tornado
- his sentient invocations needs to be more aggressive, adaptative damages between factions and a possibility to aim an enemy particularly. Or sentient hitting an enemy would mark him and let players do more damages on him... Have a % of enemy level for the % of power you have (200% power would mean 150% levels of enemy for example)
- his laser should be simple, and yet combined with his other sentient would make the big boom to make combination between skills
Idk for more change but that what's I would make
Should go for 90% just like what I have said in the video and keep it at 50% for allies.
@@thegrindshack Thought it would be easier for DE to upgrade the passive but not obtain an complete adaptability has a passive lol but I'm ok with you
Caliban is great as he is! All he needs is some Augments.
Nyx, Valkyrie, Chroma alone with Caliban plus hopefully Frost are in a group of warframes that need a rework or greater touch up to their kit.
In our spotlight on Caliban, the overall kit has potential if done right. His first has two flaws which make you locked into a spin which leads to funny haha thing but really the point is to have the two functions that it was made for. Dealing damage and life steal. Best fix is giving the spin invincibility during cast and allow the damage while cast have scaleing when dealing damage with no upper limits. If want us to be stuck using this may as well let it become powerful panic button ability. Keep the second as is but while the first is active will suck the targets hit towards you so you can keep that damage rumping up. The third power to summon his allies are alright aside having as duration based and should be fixed like specters plus making them better is by having a tap cast and hold cast so you can have them follow you closely if you hold it which have them stay close so you'll always have that shield charge in full swing. The tap cast is let them all go out and attack or follow other teammates if you tap cast too but instead of dealing massive damage or anything is they hit targets with a scaled debuff up to times 4 for yourself and the three summons are still around and alive which should make the targets more vulnerable to said damage. If a summon gets killed you can bring them back by waiting after a few seconds or keeping them alive using the first cast which heals Caliban himself and summons. His passive should be set to 90% DR so it can BE worth a darn after the new war and at last be called the Legion frame.
Nyx and Valkyr?? I guess not. Both of them are imortal and make lot of damage, i guess that you could be more on build of both... Try Valkyr with Nourish and Nyx with augment of mobility, use strengh (not so much) for armor striping, CC, and you will be imortal, for energy and more, i use Protea hability, some shards for more energy, a lack of efficience, duration, and i have a imortal Nyx...
@AtsocSuiciniv One power doesn't excuse the kit lacking overall, plus mods shouldn't be a bandaid for powers falling short. I can see each frame having the potential to be better cause the game is more than just not being killed. Soul reason why I looked at Nyx and Valkyrie. I can see Nyx being a crowd control frame with double down one debuffs to sweep up rooms instead of bubble walk for a bit. Valkyrie doesn't need much aside the hook power needing to actually bring dudes in groups to slam them in front of you. Passive would be amazing to take advantage of not only getting up faster while also any damage hits you will give a modifier to boost your outgoing melee damage, really good if the passive works while you're in Berserker mode with building along with more that you keep to melee.
I'm not even close done looking at the details but I sure do have my hopes high for older frames getting better chances of reworks.
You're playin him as a shield tank/support frame. He is a solo dps frame. Use nourish, and molt augmented. Shield Gating alone should be enough.
Use zephyr ability helmith its a nice combo with the reat of his kit. Take off the one…
The combo is 1 2 then 4
Every thing should be dead or armor stripped
Caliban is a hard to get warframe. Deserves to be top tier especially mainly because he is considered a sentient. Been playing warframe for over 6 yrs and still farming its parts😂😂😂. Hahahah
Also, his TEXTURES are fucking bugged. He looks so dead, like, faded in colors and it's going SINCE HIS RELEASE (there was a moment when his colors were normal, but it bugged again, idk when exactly, but I made a post about it. Ignored as usual). It's not like you can't just play him, you can't LOOK AT HIM. But the point is... the bugged textures applying only for his base skins, that means his tennogen helmet is NORMAL. WTF is this, DE?
Most underrated frame in the game. Idk what you’re doing if you’re having trouble surviving with him. I used him last week in archimedea. When I first got him I thought he was unkillable until I went to a solo sp void cascade.
If only his passive was 90% for him and maybe 75 for the teammates id already see a reason to play him
Really unfortunate tbh
Was thinking trinity, but right calibad exists.
trinity is great wytb, do not touch trinity my god
I like caliban, use 2 then 4 and you pop everything
I'm what you would call a "casual" so I have no idea how to fix him other than make his 1 useful and add some synergy to his abilities. He's a warframe that I bring to missions a lot and even though I try to enjoy him, I struggle to do so at times. I would be really happy if DE could fix him.
Ember ability on 1 works great since it armor strips and sets everyone on fire, pair it up with the stomp 2 and they are floating without armor burning alive.
The companions I will admit our trash as far as killing enemies, but I don’t really need them to kill enemies. Need them to keep me alive and they do that really well.
That damage vulnerability lift ability is trash. I must admit, but can be used if you really want to.
His one is actually trash in every way
His four isn’t bad I like the lingering AOE effect that rips armor. Honestly, the fact that he has built in armor strip makes his four probably his best ability by far.
His passive is good paired with adaptation. He’s pretty much not dying. As well as guardian on companion, and your summoning of Your three buddies it almost impossible to die. If you’re petty, you’ll put on arcane ages…
What about nyx???
Nyx can cc entire rooms. Even eximus making them all attack each other
Why do people think Nyx is bad lol Yes, she needs buffs, but she isnt worse than Calibad.
What about nyx, atlas, equinox banshee, trinity, ember & Vauban (this ones got reworked already but for the worse) and Valkyr?
Not gonna lie I should ask for reworking of the skill set of certain Warframes to be reallocated for QOL like the multi skills of certain Warframes to just a tap/hold and turn the leftover into a tap/hold of another normal skill.
@@PrimeHunter3195 I like Caliban more than nyx, at least his armor strip is not just permanent but also lingers in an aura left by the explosion, his survivability is more consistent than a skill that blocks your movement speed and depletes your energy bar in one steel path exilus shot.
BTW she is also easier to fix:
Passive: boost the 20 less accuracy to 30-40%, add AOE damage resistance at the same percentage, also if there is a mind controlled enemy, they will become the priority target.
1: mind control can be cast over 2 or 3 enemies to differentiate from decoy.
2: psychic bolt armor strip is not removed because you cast the skill again, it will last the full duration of the effect, mind controlled enemies will throw extra bolts every time you cast it.
3: enemies affected by chaos will deal increased damage to each other and their attack priority will be: enemies affected not affected by chaos > enemies affected by chaos > mind controlled enemies > tenno/Warframe/allies. Also psychic bolts will bounce over chaos affected enemies to others (from 1 to 3 times depending on how broken that could be), renewing the duration of chaos and armor striping them.
4: absorb will end up either becoming mag's polarize with it's augment + shifting the enemy priority to you / the enemy trapped, nezha's ring of fire with a release of all the damage in an AOE at the end or becoming something completely different, my proposal: ( she creates absorb + assimilate but with a time limit, all the enemies in the zone are shifted priority to attack her, her energy consumption works like mirage's prism (initial cost/channel, no consumption for damage) and the big boom at the end with all the damage absorbed, not just 0.03%, also assimilate either restores shields or grants you overguard based on the damage received while reducing either the range, damage or both.
@@carlostejeda4341 why Trinity ant Nyx??? Both of them do litteraly everything on game. Heal, Energy, endurance, strip armor, buff crits, and restore shield, and all of this for the team!!! And Nyx could be imortal, strip armor, control and crowd control.. I guess that you dont build them correctly...
Love u keep up the good work 🫡
I’m just begging for a Valkr or Nyx reworked
Valk doesnt even need a full rework. Just fix the jankyness of her 3 to make it useful and give her an ACTUAL ability for her 1. 2 and 4 are fucking amazing abilities
@@RPZSTA so she’s 1/2 useless, her passive is a non factor, and half of her working kit can be subsumed. That sounds like something worth reworking
@@RPZSTA oh and she also has the worst exalted melee in the game. Worst range, highest energy consumption rate, and no combo scaling. So it only really has base damage and false immortality.
when is bro gonna fix his mic, it sounds so bad. your content is amazing, dont get me wrong there. but that mic just hurts my ears
Limbo arguably needs it more. There is no other warframe that would make others leave a mission other than him. Shame. xD
L take. Caliban is a good frame 3 tauforged archon shards is too much 2 base casting speed shards are fine I personally have 2 amber casting speed and 3 azure energy shards all basic for the time being removed flow for equilibrium and adaptation for rolling guard as a safety net for when I need it and subsumed Nourish over his 1 even after the update Nourish is still best in slot imo for Caliban. I admit his 1 is kinda bad but I think it should be it's his 1 the basic ability the frame starts with before investment 1's should be on the weaker side imo but not all abilities are built the same. Something to think about his 2 is it still works even if the enemies aren't affected by the lift so steel path acolytes still receive the damage vulnerability. Caliban is a good frame that can do most steel path missions comfortably and really excels in endless mission types and holding down an area or 2 if anyone who tells you otherwise it's just a skill issue!
This title seems utterly mental when you consider there are frames like Loki or Volt. Sure Volt got a nifty shield for eidolons, but rest of his kit is whatever. Not to mention frames like Limbo or Ash who are too clunky or just toxic in teams. Except for Bubble, Frost's kit is a nothing burger...
He is better than Grendel tho
2,4,2then 3 rinse repeat
honestly, I don't even think he's close to the worst. His casting speed is his biggest downfall. He needs a bunch of yellow shards to just be functional, but at least he has conditions to do a surprisingly effective gameplan. You know who ACTUALLY doesn't do anything? Loki. He's outclassed in so many ways it's not even funny.
Unironically loki prime was genuinely the only prime ive ever deleted and I pray I never get him again
Naa Nyx is good , Banchee and Caliban need a rework for shuar 😊👍
Eclipse is boring i run resonator or roar 😂😂
Remember when wukong was THE worst frame of all times fun times
Why you always liein 😂
@@thejuan9274🤨lying?? Wukong was terrible before he got reworked
Nah yall are crazy excluding his 1 he isnt bad at all.
His passive dosen't stack with adaptation, wack af.
I know. I did explain why I added adaptation in the video. It's kind of dumb to put adaptation but you get no choice because it's better compared to his passive.
I love caliban, but he's really lackluster and only viable for veterans that have the stuff to make him viable. He needs his numbers increased, energy cost reduced and first ability make him go faster instead of slower. That should be enough to make him shine
The MIGHTY SEER can save him
Yawns
I dont think he is that bad
Then youre huffing copium. Hes not absolutely terrible, but every other warframe is better.
Just needs a rework. A hydroid level one. I canot usually see his 4 ground effect either so it's very tedious to use. 😊
The kit is OK but 1 needs to be more like sandstorm and his passive should not be relatively redundant with adaptation.
nah vauban is still worst
Press 4, press 2, grab popcorn, shoot the occasional eximus.
Edit: Vauban also, as of the last few hotfixes, has the only form of cc that still ignores overguard. Bastille applies an irresistible slow to anything otherwise immune to crowd control. Not a particularly strong slow, but noticeable nonetheless.
vauban can be used in eso to kill enemies faster, he has uses in other game modes too, where can caliban be used?
@@TheRagnus exactly what i am sayin
Nop you Just dont know How to play him
@@ThatOneWeirdGuyEnder afking 🤣
Worst Warframe in the game is Qorvex - useless in any role and Caliban by far better then him.