1337 History of British Isles & Political Map
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- EUROPA UNIVERSALIS 5 Political Map fo the British Isles and their historical background
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While almost everyone in Ireland is taught Irish only a few towns in the west still speak it day to day
ludi you made a mistake @11:22 it's not the falklands, it's the faröer islands. can't watch any more of your videos because of that mistake, sorry.
Wrong Tinto Maps link in the description
Holy shit did I say falklands? Lol yes bro clearly south america is right above british isles cmon@@simonschmitz6719
According to data, as of 2020 there is only 1.3 million speakers of Irish languages today. The vast majority of those are people who picked it up as a secondary language. Estimates of the ones who speak it as a primary language is as low as 70,000 people in the world.
It's around 48,000 people in Ireland that can speak the language fluently and can use it in casual conversation
That 1.3million is not surprising. Every kid in Ireland learns Irish in school growing up, due to English being the first language though, many never speak it in adulthood and forget
sad
As low as 70.000? That's a lot, not a little.
@@Mebsutait's tiny
I'm getting the feel that they want us to play smaller in Project Caesar. I'm sure some countries will have a lot of advantages to form empires, but from these and culture-conversion, religious stuff, migration, it seems that those "All europe by 1550" playthrough are going to be a real challenge or not feasible at all. I like it. I feel that EU IV kind of trails off around 1650 and a lot of content is missed just because there's no more challenge after that time.
Just remember my words: we will have full eurome conquest by 1400 or even earlier. Don't underestimate Europa Universalis community
Yeah, I think EU4 makes rapid expansion too easy after a certain point. CK3 has empires become more unstable as they grow which would be nice in EU4.
Thanks for the quick uploads on the tinto talks/maps! Your hard work is really appreciated Ludi❤
Thank you kind sir
Hey guys i finished the exams i told you about last time. I did better than i expected except in the exam that's taken into consideration when becoming a doctor x) now i'm waiting for the results that are gonna be out 23/06. Ludi if i go to med school i promise i'll find a way to donate sth x) thanks for everyone that wished me good luck in the tests 💗
Don't worry about donation bro, use that money to get yourself something nice, you deserve it for studying so hard and being the awesome person you are. Love you and keep rocking
Wish you good luck
Best of luck man! Try not to stress too much about the results while waiting and forget the exams ever happened if you can.
I hope your results will come out as you wish
They should add various cultures into England which would later "melt" into English, like northumbrian etc..
i like this idea
Why? English are all the same at this point. Which is why taking a bath in England wasn’t common and living in filth was 😂
If that's the case, they should call Scots Northumbrian too, or at least the same culture group imo.
Province with "old" culture should has X% chance that it will convert into english (or get modifier to culture convertion) in first age for each english province it border to.
X%+Y in second age
X%+Y+Z in third age
According to wikipedia it stopped being the dominant dialect in the 16th century!
I live in the Pennines. They are soft, delightful rolling hills for the most part. They would offer no major impediment to trade nor military manoeuvres. I'm fat and in my 40s and walk them regularly.
I do too, although the Yorkshire Dales would be, for example N Yorks Moors. Re trade that made me laugh as the origin of the industrial revolution is linked to this area - wool, textiles, access to water for mills and trade (although no canals at this point of course)
Recommendation:
Bedfordshire looks a little large as a province, especially for somewhere that is so central to the heartland of England. Perhaps it could split into a Buckinghamshire and Bedfordshire?
write your suggestion in the forum post, then the devs may see it
Agreed.
Im not English but isnt Buchingham a meme?
Ireland does NOT have potatoes as a basic good. Problems are to be expected.
new world not invented sir Kappa
you are my legend! since 2014 and the great war channel before they went full woke/russophobic! i love you! you represent everything right with our lives!
i dunno about an autonomous wales, there were a lot more places in europe at the time with more autonomy which are not represented and i feel like England will need all the help it can get against the french.
The near-death of the Irish language wouldn't come until roughly the end-date for EU5 Ludi, the creation of the Statutes of Kilkenny (themselves a fascinating glimpse into the Anglo-Norman 'creole' of the time) suggest that Crown-aligned lords were fighting an uphill battle in enforcing/elevating English language/culture in their regions.
11:20
I hope you mean Faroer Islands... Falklands are near Argentina Ludi.
I think he knows and it was just a gag over the Falkland war, and that it was considered a core part of the UK (probably without trying to make an edgy historical point, just making a funny reference).
Thanks for going over the tinto talks and maps, I love hearing your insight on them! It'll also be awesome to see a mega-campaign where you play as a country that goes against whichever country you played the game before
Hen Ogledd is 'The Old North' referring to the parts of north west England and south west scotland that were inhabited by Brythonnic speaking peoples up until the middle ages. They arranged themselves into various kingdoms like Elmet and Rheged. You can play as the old north in CK3 as the Kingdom of Strathclyde.
You can also play as them in the 1066 start date as Well, and still have the same title last I checked. It's just they have less land and aren't independent.
Always ready for updates from you!
Awww very kind of you to say bro thanks
First play through has to be Wales. Trying to break from English rule will be a welcome challenge. Including the marches will be great.
Ally with Scotland/Bruce and the French.
@@xWHITExEAGLEx Definitely. The Home and Away achievement on EU4 was one of my favourite runs!
So, what he means by John Wycliffe, was the Wycliffe Bible, a bible published in Middle-English for the Lollard Heresy, which caused a pseudo-reformation in England.
Talking of impassable areas, far more coul'd be made of the fenlands around Eastern England and Somerset as these were almost but not quite impassable and historically significant. King Alfred used them to his advantage to prevent Danes from taking over the whole country, King John came to grief in the and many placenames reference islands such as the Isle of Ely the Isle of Axholme or anywhere with a name ended 'ey' such as Athelney. These places were almost literally islands before the fens were drained.
The Pennines probably didn't pose much of an impediment to troop movements, the moors are less fertile than the valleys and less populated but far from impassable apart from maybe the very north near Carlisle where there would have been a lack of routes.
I love dynamic provinces and county names based on culture. The dynamic province names is part of what still makes EU4 so repayable for me.
The dynamic province name system sounds amazing
Did you know that paradox hired a bunch of the devs from the mod you showcased related to this start from eu4? These mechanics are apparently in eu4 as well so it makes sense why they are listening to us, being players and devs themselves rather than money factory people
Don't forget Lollardy, Ludi!
They say "Europa" in the second paragraph rather than Europe idk of anyone else noticed
lmao yah i just caught that, paradox is pretty great for allowing pretty much open discussion of a game that hasn't even been announced yet.
In many european languages europe is just Europa, and Swedish is one of them. So although it probably is EU5, that word in this place is not one of the evidences.
@@p-j-g The dev writing this blog seems to be British.
@@p-j-g Well the Dev that wrote this is SaintDaveUK so I assume hes british and he also uses 'Europe' in every other paragraph, so I think it is intentional
Have Wales include Chester and the marches but make it have English as a primary culture and be lead by the marcher lords.
Definitely this
Not going to lie, absolutely triggered that both a “Breifne” and a “Cavan” exist
Why
@@achillesmichael5705 One is Irish, one is English pronounciation?
Eastern england beign tied to the dublin market makes sense. At the time it was way faster to travel from lancashire to london by ship than by land (there where weeks of difference. Dublin is just right there, though i expect that as the game develops london's market is going to swallow up most of the british isles
I think they should still divide England into two/three cultures, it's a pretty large population on a vast area, I don't see why it should be different from France or Germany
Why? Nasty english culture is all same, not taking baths and living in swamps like savages😂
What do You propose ? South anglosaxon ? Notrh anglosaxon ? Cornish ?? Walesian ?
England is significantly different from France:
England land area: 130,279 km²
'Modern' metropolitan France: 551,695 km²
England was also far more 'unified' and centralised than France from centuries before 1337.
That makes no sense. English were just savages who lived in swamps
Saying Wales wasn’t formerly annexed by England until the 1500s is completely wrong. The 1536 act of union was simply an integration of Wales into the English legal system not an act of annexation. This was to reduce the autonomy of the Welsh region and tie it ever closer to England (thus increasing the power of Henry VIII). Wales at this point was just another part of the Kingdom of England not some separate entity finally being incorporated into the Kingdom proper. Conflating an act of centralisation with one of annexation is a complete fallacy in this context and its s really concerning that such a large historical error has been made.
The "artic" tiles are over the larger Mountains in the highlands like the Cairngorms and Snowdonia/Eryri in Wales (the national park with the 2nd highest mountain in the UK)
11:22 Falklands? You mean Faroes, right?
Was just about to comment the same lol
Or Shetlands I guess. The Falklands would be a little extreme
@@GreenIsTheWayForward Aye, would be a bit of a stretch including them with the North Sea Isles lol
Do you mean Malvinas ??
@@BXCrysers Never. Falkland Islands forever!
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i love you too
Nah. Strongest start is going to be John of Luxemburg
Duke of Luxemburg, King of Bohemia, vicelord of Mazovia, lord of various stuff in northern Italy, ally of the HRE emperor with his son historically becoming HRE emperor.
It's going to be straight up easy mode.
I hope we have later start dates, 1337 is gonna be a pain in the ass to get through the 100 years war AND the 1444 stuff to get to the interesting part of the game
We Yorkshiremen don't accept the sorry XD. great video as always, can't wait to see the mega campaign
Working on it!
Ill be impressed when you fit city skylines 1 and 2 into your mega campaign
Great to see Longford properly attributed to the O Fearghal or O'Farrell in English.
my man you transported the falklands a long way
Deheubarth is far too archaic to feature in the 1330s, especially considering wales was a part of England at the time, Carmarthenshire or Pembrokeshire would be a much more accurate name
10:41 Maybe there's a reference to Lollardism (Proto Protestant movement of England)
Should each location have at least two resources like a primary resource and maybe just a secondary I feel like it could make the world more diverse, one location only produces one raw material is just odd. Maybe the
Secondary raw material only produces half
the attention to detail is insane
I chuckled a little on the political map when I saw you can play as the tribe of Mayo. Reminds me of the Petty Kingdom of Mumu from CK2. I just find those names amusing. As for the mountains in GB, while I don't live there I do know they are not all that tall. My home city of Albuquerque sits at a higher elevation than all of the British Isles, around 5,000ft, and the peak of the Sandia mountains next to the city is a little under 10,700ft tall.
9:54
Irish here, or pole living in ireland. A very very low amount of use here speak Irish Gaelic but it is mandatory in schools. There are villages or towns that are called Gaeltachts where irish is majority spoken and you get payed to live in them. It was an almost dead language and its being brought back with a revival effort
The map of England seems like they've relied to heavily on modern borders and intudstiral/post-industrial towns. They should completely re-do using a map of the Hundreds as their basis.
Feel like scotland should be its own region as well as have its own market considering it was its own nation back then and was influential at that point in time
For the shires in Scotland, the Mull of Kintyre, which is the part the sticks out south of Argyll, should be part of Argyll and not Inner Hebrides. It's part of the County of Argyll and Bute, as well as the Isle of Arran which is the Isle East of the Kintyre peninsula. Arran is similar to the Hebrides but it's separated from them so technically not a part of them. My family is from the Mull of Kintyre :)
I would keep Southern English and Northern English separate - The North had a partly separate culture because the Danelaw was there and It was a problem even into the 12th century, as they supported Danish attempts to retake England. The divide is still there today. They have been very inconsistent with their cultures.
True, a lot of our words come from French. This is our biggest etymology groip. But the most commonly used word (sight words) are predominantly Germanic.
Cumbria (Cumberland/Westmorland) should have an impassable mountain, it contains basically all the decently mountainy mountains in England
Clandeboye should probably be like a province smaller. The Earldom of Ulster (which later becomes a Plantagenet possession since their current Earless is a 3 year old lady in London) controlled a bit more than is shown
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Already? :p
@@LudietHistoria Always. (snape voice)
Recommendation:
Reworking the locations within Kent. Chatham is fine and can stay as is. Makes huge historical sense due to the heavy Royal Navy presence there during the timeframe.
However the location of Canterbury does not contain the city of Canterbury. I would therefore use the existing Kent boroughs to redraw the location borders within Kent as follows:
Canterbury location contains the current boroughs of Canterbury and Thanet.
Dover location containing the boroughs of Dover and the Eastern half of Shepway.
Ashford Location containing the boroughs of Ashford and the Western half of Shepway.
Maidstone location containing the boroughs of Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells.
This expands Kent to 5 locations which as a local in my opinion better represents the county and it’s historical locations. I would them all Farmlands with the possible exception of Ashford which could be Marsh due to the presence of the Romney Marsh in the location.
Resource wise I would do:
Marble in Canterbury.
Fish in Dover.
Livestock in Ashford.
Stone in Maidstone.
Wheat in Chatham.
the count palatine of Cheshire was given to the Hair apparent before the creation of the Royal title of the prince of Wales and was folded into the prince of Wales holding. So its historically accurate
The population of England seems too large, especially considering the big discrepancy, between France and England at the time and comparing this with the earlier tinto map of France. This also played a really big part in the 100 years war, for example the army sizes at Agincourt. The English monarchy had much more centralized system allowing them to draw upon more men despite their smaller population. If possible i'd like this to be better represented somehow.
re: wales.
the prinicpality proper should be a personal union under england, but the marches, should all maybe be owned by england, with like events to transfer then to wales or to "shire" wales and integrate it into the england tag.
personally would like to see more detail in the locations on the modern english side of the marcher lordships. like the ones that were autonomous liberties from shropshire and hereford
(but still understood as being part of those shires)
english maelor (the sticky out bit of modern wrexham) should be attatched to regular maelor as its long been welsh in 1337 and is called english because of its archbishopric, not because it was thought of as outside wales.
there was a concept of wales and of england at the time, but legally there was regular england, the principality and lordships
there should be welsh minorites in chester(the town), shropshire, and herefordshire, especially as border lordships that are part of those english shires were still majority welsh.
also, the dublin market might be more historical if it was the chester market? dublin forsure works tho.
chester silts up in this games timeframe and liverpool gets made/built up as the alternative base of englsih royal power projection from england into the irish sea. it was a very important port
london should obviously have all sorts of minorites (welsh, dutch, low german etc)
The copper in Kerry gives me a real archaeology stiffy. Copperworking spread there from mainland Europe (iirc from either Portugal or Brittany), and it became (as far as we know) the birthplace of the chalcolithic in the Isles. Ross Island in Killarney National Park still shows signs of this.
Wales should be represented as not its own tag but through similar locations modifiers as mentioned about the palatinate of Durham to show off the increased autonomy of the region
A minor point. In Welsh a dd is pronounced more like a th, so Gwynedd is pronounced Gwyneth.
I hope they make a dev talk about Peria and Caucasus soon. I am particularly interested in what they have in store for my Country, Georgia 🇬🇪
I don't remember a stargate in ireland, but it's O'Neill who we're talking about, he'd find a way😂
10:40 he was talking about the Lollards Ludi who inspired the hussites and can be seen as the first embers of the later reformation in Europe, not the later Anglican Church
IIRC SaintDaveUK is a VERY old team member. I think he makes 3D models. And has been doing so at least since EU4.
Most people outside of Dublin speak some Gaelige. Many people are fluent and for some it's a first language. It was banned by Cromwell IIRC. Quite a few hundred years after the start. The pronunciation of the language, Gaelige, sounds something like Galwah. I have heard different people have slightly different pronunciations but that's the closest my foreign mind can get to imitating what they're saying.
Wow, your quick to release a video , and I love the Irish clans , more the merrier and I don’t mind the entire wales as a English dominion with English lords in the south
I really hope that we will be able to merge/mix culture like in ck3
On Munster, you were right with your first guess so good guess.
Great video as always!!
9:59 it's called "Irish" in English or "Gaeilge" in Irish
A good few people (though not the majority) are fluent from school but far fewer Irish people are native speakers.
OMG Ireland is beautiful! I will deffo play as Connaught. Greetings to all my Irish fellas out there!
I think Connaught region in Ireland need at least one Stone province, there was and still is quite few Stone Quarries in the area.
If the Isle of man becomes independent it should change name to Ellan Vannin as it was known in Manx, the common name Isle of Mann is derrived from the Celtic sea god Manannan Mac Lir
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Yes I am excited for it, and I would like how do you handle the transition between IR to CK3 ?
CORNISH WORLD CONQUEST!!!!!!!! CORN RULES ALL!!!!!? I AM SO HYPE TY LUDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ol'- * cough * Irish dynasty joke had me dying Ludi lol
I think the hay color eu4 uses to represent farmland regions would probably look better/more distinct than this strong green
21:35 We were promised Balkan after British Iles
Im confused the last thing on englands list whas a seperate wales considering how badly beaten the where in 1294 by our Prince Madog.
Scarily enough you are almost right when it comes to Mcdonald's and O'Neil's
anatolia wil be the best region to play, can't wait
Hey Ludi does paradox releasing so much info about the game mean that it is going to launch really soon, or is this a sort of early access version to test the new features?
The "800 years war" dammnnn
I assume the arctic bit in Wales will be Snowdon. Yeh it literally means snow hill
Project Caesar Ludi, please. This is not a fanfic, this is fact.
i wonder if the irish area of munster is in some way related to the geman city of münster
Munster is the anglicisation of Mumha, so there wouldn't be an etymological connection (unless whoever was anglicising it decided to connect the names for fun).
Is it like V3 where some provinces start smaller than they actually are, and once united can't be split again into smaller separate states?
5:29, yes it is indeed Oxford Ludi
I like that they've changed the name from Innse Gall to Hebrides, as the former is basically calling the island foreigners in its own language lol.
Innse Gall is what Scottish people on the mainland called the the Western Isles in Gaelic while the Norse ruled them for a few hundred years.
Yes, excited to see the mega game
When he mentions the religious map mode as not being fully Catholic “for long” is due to the Lollard heresy inspired by English theologian John Wycliffe
And it is Canon that Colonel/General/Secretary Jack O'Neil is a descendent of the O'Niell
3 hours 10,840 views bro is on the rise
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you should also cover the hansa
To answer your question actually quite a lot of irish people know at least some Gaelic, about 40% of the irish population (a lot of schools teach it, politicians usually do their speeches in both english and gaelic etc), but very few people use it commonly in their everyday life (4-5%)
It seems like they are leaving the Balkans for the last tinto talks, too spicy
Shouldn't parts of Mercia be classified as Tropical ,after all coconuts were found there in the time of King Arthur.
We gonna have a culture war next week.
It seems like this game is going to be like ck3 and eu4 combined
11:22 Ludi please google where the Falklands is
Where is Anglo-Norman language ? It's still 1337 so it was in use in England and in Ireland at that time
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