I love how you give advice on how to land in a wind, and in my mind I'm thinking "yeah, yeah, good idea. I'll totally do that next time I'm landing a big jet. Thanks for the tip." I'm a doctor. lol
Every pilot is taught to increase the approach speed of a plane (even small private planes) when it's windy. I have forgotten the exact percentage of increase based on wind, but the information provided in the video is, as I noted, standard, varying of course for each type of aircraft.
Right? I was thinking the same thing as it looked like he was going for the road first, saw the lines, and then turned it over to autorotate into the field.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing he's probably not going to make it past the road, and risking hitting a car would only make things worse. Great quick thinking and execution.
I swear you can see the moment he decides, pulls the nose up just a hair to guage his speed/loft and then immediately dives left down left hard to get some speed/loft for what I'd guess is a little more risky (tempting a sideways 'crash' or rotor hitting the dirt, but way safer than eating some power lines.)
There is another point I would like to make about the helicopter pilot. He did a great job in telling his passengers "stay where you are". One of the hazards with an unpowered helicopter rotor is that they can suffer from an aeroelastic event called "blade sail", the sudden, unexpected departure from from its rotational plane. The tips of the rotor blades on a Bell OH13 (Sioux), a chopper I have both flown and worked on, are about 10 feet off the ground when stationary. I have seen the tip of an unpowered rotating blade sail down and strike 3 ft high fire extinguisher about half way up. The pilot kept his head, allowing his passengers to keep theirs!
Completely agree, the chopper was in no immediate danger requiring an evacuation. Also, not only would blade sail be an issue, but they were also on uneven ground, so one side of the prop will be rotating towards the ground. Passengers can lose all common sense in a state of panic and find themselves making moronic decisions. Always best to make sure everything is completely shut down and come to a halt before allowing them to exit in a situation like this.
It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that something as heavy as a 747 at close to max landing weight can BOUNCE and not drive the landing gear right up through the airplane. The engineers at Boeing who designed those landing gear struts really earned their money. The first time I saw a 747 bounce was at IAH and a Royal Jordanian plane bounced on landing. I actually thought I'd be interviewed on TV because I witnessed the crash. That was when I discovered just how stout those struts really are.
Now try to wrap your head around this. Ground pressure exists. The actual surface footprint of the tires is roughly 6 sq ft per tire. In this video, that's 12 instances of 6 sq ft, or 72 sq ft. Roughly 300,000 kilos are being divided between those 12 instances. Roughly 4160 kilos per square foot. To put that into scale, the footprint of a standard cab pickup is roughly 175 sq ft. (7 foot wide, 25 foot long) and weighs roughly 2950 KG total (using a 2002 Ford F250 as my example) Now, that runway has to put up with a sudden shock load comparable to stacking 2 full size trucks on top of one another, and then have them hit 1 square foot of area... Not sure about that particular runway, but the regional here had to have 6 feet of concrete under the 6 inches of asphalt just to land the "puddle jumper" dash 800 turboprops. Just how deep do you think that runway has to be?
19:27 that was actually an Airphil express A320, flight 969, and yes that was the original audio, and yes the investigation cited the cause as pilot error.
The airport was Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK) which "serves" Boracay but is actually a good 40 miles from Boracay which is an island without an airport of its own. The runway at the time was 7175 feet long, which is on the short side but not extremely so, I mean, LaGuardia's runways are only 7000 feet. It looks like poor speed management to me and not having a stabilized approach.
@@alexmollen9339 Are you sure? It is the former Caticlan Airport that has changed name to Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) and after extending the runway it can actually take an A320 now, if handled with care. I went there once in the old days when you had to fly with an ATR42. I admit that judging from the surroundings it does look a lot more like Kalibo., but then why would Kelsey call it Boracay?
@@tommyrjensen A quick look at Google Maps told me that they would have ended up in the ocean at Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) at both ends of the runway. So definitely Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK).
@@tommyrjensen it is definitely Kalibo. Air Phil Express was already rebranded to PAL express when RPVE was expanded to accomodate the A320. See also the terminal building a few meters from the runway threshold. Thats the terminal building of RPVK those days.
I did a go-around a week ago! Really cool that this channel taught me what was going on. I spoke to the captain afterwards and apparently the tower was signaling the incorrect runway 😬 Captain was pretty upset about it.
I thought you meant you flew a go around at first! 🤣 I was momentarily puzzled that you’d only learned from RUclips what was going on before I realised you’d been a passenger!
@@moiraatkinson Same. For a minute I thought he myst have been the co-pilot of Flight 420 to San Francisco, if he learned about go-arounds from this channel.
@@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser Yeah, the Tenerife disaster has been, IIRC, the worst by fatalities in history, and was caused in large part by a series of the ground and tower miscommunications with the flight crews. :(
@@cykkm Yeah, there is one I remember seeing a documentary on where a bunch of mishaps occurred all at once, leading to two jumbo jets colliding on the runway, as one was crossing, and the other taking off
As someone who has a massive fear of planes, watching your content has helped calm me so much. I think just learning about how things work and how much the pilots know really helps, and you explain things so well!
@@haroldk724 Commercial flights are extremely safe and it is proven that more people have died in car crashes while traveling to the airport than have died in aircraft. The huge majority of aircraft deaths are in privately owned small aircraft. I don't know the exact dates but there was a 10 year period of time between 2009 and 2019 where not one person died in a commercial airplane crash in the USA.
@@cherb23 at least you can avoid situations when you are driving yourself. I would never take public transportation, especially commercial flights, i dont trust them.
I'll further compliment those helicopter pilots (who I just noticed were probably hunting based on the AR15 in the cockpit lol) by saying they didn't immediately go for their gopros like some other people and instead made sure everyone was alright first, then doing whatever they did to make sure the helicopter was shutting down properly. I also like how they kept an upbeat mood to keep everyone calm and cheerful. THAT is how you handle a stressful situation. 👏
Looks like they may have been hog hunting. I know they're a nuisance in some states, like Texas. Ranchers will let, or maybe even pay, these guys to come and thin out the population of hogs on their property. Some ppl shoot them and some ppl run dogs on them. I've never been for letting dogs get hurt for hogs, I'd rather just shoot the hogs with cheap ammo, if i had to. I can't stand seeing a poor dog get gutted.
Is hunting from a helicopter legal anywhere in the US? If I were using a helicopter as transportation to a hunting site, the long guns would be in a case.
@@Av8or7 I'm not 100% sure on the legality of it in TX. The only person I know personally that's done it was flying with the owner of the property. The owner of the property owned the helicopter and has a helicopter pilots license. The owner/pilot is a Vietnam vet that flew hueys, and lives on a couple thousand acres in BFE Texas.
I liked the helicopter guys attitude to the crash. After asking if everybody was ok, and all of them replied with a yes, he only had one thing to say. "Perfect" The chopper is probably heavily damaged. Lots of paper work etc etc but all that really mattered to him is everybody was unhurt. Props to the pilot. Seriously...he needs new props.
That’s one hung I’ve always loved about helicopters. While you fixed wing folks get lots of time to plan things out when your engine(s) go quiet, you also need a LOT of room to land. We don’t have much time… but only need an area 1/2 the size of a tennis court to pull it off 😃
@@Jukkala Thanks 👍🏼 Obviously, we all live on a rotating mass called Earth. Centrifugal "forces" are therefore very real in our daily lives, no need to explain. However, spontaneous local wind shears and downdrafts are not something to mess with, especially in small aircraft
Kelsey, your videos are just incredible. The way that you explain everything to even the most uneducated viewers is spot on. Thanks for the patience that you have in all of the explanations of every different scenario in your videos! I have really enjoyed every one that I have watched. Keep up the great work!
The clean, empty hotel background makes me smile…it’s great to see stop overs being used for more than drinking or sleeping.. the videos and explanations are even better!
He had a bad mag ground and it allowed him to take off with mags off. Vibration found the ground and lost the engine. He’s young and will learn from his mistake.
These are always entertaining! My dad flew Vulcans, and later Jaguars for the RAF and I remember he used to say 'tell your friends your dad is a fighter pilot, Sue' 😀 ''
@Glow in the dark yes we were stationed at Lossiemouth and later Coltishall. He got up to some hair raising stuff I guess some of which im finding out sbout now.My sister had a flight in a Jaguar with him-not me I haven't the guts for it! I recall the Nimrod planes ,two of the first plane names I learnt were nimrod and lightnings (SO loud)
the insight in the beginning of this video is extremely insightful and the work you put into these videos is greatly appreciated. thanks man keep making great content
Kelsey is mistaken on the first vid. I remember watching this one. They came in hard to try and bounce the under carriage loose. They had a spotter that would have told them if the wheel had come down. If it would have dropped, they would have taken back off, circled and come back in for a normal landing. The hard landing was deliberate
This was my first thought when I saw this clip. Glad to hear it was intentional. I suspect they knew the exact sink rate they could hit at safely. My father was a 747 captain when he retired. He was methodical and sharp and everything was intentional.
WRONG. He bounced, simply because the hyd problem he had meant that some of the elevator surfaces were not available, thus catching him out when he tried to do his normal flare. The slowness of the aircraft's response is not something normally practiced and therefore entirely excusable.
@@12345fowler I was listening to it live on BBC and SkyNews at the time. The thing was flying around for hours before it came to land. The crew said that they were going to attempt it before they did it. Their conversations with ATC were broadcast live at the time. You know you can disagree with someone without going all Rain Man. No need to swear.
The guy who set the world record for helicopter altitude (Jean Boulet) also set the record for autorotation during the same flight, safely landing from 40,000ft after his engine flamed out due to the cold.
1:08 that's the pilot hi five that slight nod is a great job bro. 11:58 is the opposite that look is priceless. lol 14:49 so good the smile turns in to the nod then turns into a nice! that's a touchdown right there
@@tmanf22 Did he have the time, or the ability to take hands + focus off flight controls to actually do that? A good auto ends with everyone alive surely.
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 It's fairly safe to assume the pilot was the guy in the right seat and the passenger in the left. We can also see there's no controls attached on the left so it is definitely a passenger and not a fellow pilot.
That helo pilot did a fantastic job; he had no time at all at that altitude to even think about it. Not only find a place to set down but missed the road too. I'd fly with him anytime.
You'd fly with a guy who happily takes off with the magneto switches set to off'? And then sheepishly looks at the camera when he goes to turn them off after they've crashed?
Yeah Rob, took the word out of my mouth. I think he did a great job not killing them after, but he also caused it. Anyone can make mistakes, but thats what check lists are for. If you go by memory, you'll miss something for sure
@@ovalteen4404 what are you saying? If you watch the actual video, you can clearly see the key in the same position after the crash as before he started his take off. You can see him switch it to off during his shut down procedure. He didnt have the switch off in flight, it was on a single mag not both, as it should be at all times unless doing a mag check.
I'm not even a pilot but I've always been fascinated with planes. Kelsey explains these concepts so well for lay-people! There've been times when I've had some smooth landings and you don't even notice and other times when it's really rough and people clap when it's finally over! Guess it all depends on the different factors that the captains were facing on that particular day!
Nope. You guys got it all wrong. The pilot had found a copy of Rhinestone Cowboy and after removing 19 years of dust he put it in his DVD player and didn't even blink for the next 2 hours. He then decided to enter a bull riding competition at the end of his next shift. So what we all witnessed was just a warm up practice session. That pilot has a right to dream, and who are we to judge? 😆🤣😂
Probably wouldn't have been able to reach it and still line up with the road. Auto rotations are very steep, especially if you take up a nose down attitude. My question is this, why did he fly it into the ground, he never slowed his ground speed with a flair.
Watched a vid about the development of helicopters. They were still VERY new and individually made and a man was trying to convince some rich people to invest. Final argument that swung the deal? "This machine is going to save a lot of lives."
As someone has already noted he probably wasn't sure if he could get that far. Also, dirt has a bit of "give" to it which helps when you have fixed skids instead of landing gear with shock absorbers....
@@rattler24 If he hadn't slowed his descent, they'd all be pancakes. Notice how not far off the ground they were in the first place, there weren't a whole lot of autorotation to work with, especially after eating up some of the speed to turn away from the road.
just wanting to tell ya that I appreciate a TON that you upload in 1440p too. It's my native resolution and I love it! Thank you so much not only for that but also for the insanely awesome content!
The helicopter pilot did a great landing, but caused the accident in the first place by taking off with the magneto switches in the off position! Those switches fail to "on" if they have a bad connection, so that's why they were able to take off. You can see it in the full video and in his expression when he sees they're off as they're shutting down. Lesson: ALWAYS DO CHECKLISTS!!!!
Ummm no magneto switches do not turn on the magneto by closing the switch. Magnetos are always on. The switch in the "off" position is actually a closed switch, not an open one. It works by grounding the P-lead in the off position which grounds out the magneto stopping the spark. If a mag switch fails open or the p-leas breaks or is disconnected, the only way you can shut down the engine is by closing the mixture.
That runway in Boracay(RPVE) is really short. A320s barely fit there. My company actually requires MED braking action, full reverse, and full flaps when landing there. Nice video @kelsey
I admire how calm were the passengers on that helicopter during and after the mishap. In my case, I'd be just like the giraffe in your Madagascar video. Greetings from Argentina.
You can see the passenger has a rifle and ammo. Probably some sort of aerial hunt, so I reckon this wasn't their first time in a helicopter....hell, maybe not even their first engine out.
@@larrybe2900 Agreed, they were likely almost on the ground by the time the passengers comprehended what was about to happen. Even in a plane, the stories and video you see from real emergency landings everyone is typically pretty calm. Reality isn't dramatic enough for Hollywood - the place most people get their idea of emergencies (and how a courtroom works).
I've flown KLM a few times, and I've probably flown just around 10-15 times in my life (at 23), and out of all the flights I've been on, KLM seems to have either stellar pilots or stellar luck with weather at landing, because every time I've flown with them the landings have been so smooth you barely noticed the plane touching down. All other flights have either been rocky or downright scary landings.
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 no not beating the helicopters become good friends with the air and do many favors for it and once it has the airs full trust it social manipulates it into feeling bad for all of the things the helicopter has done for it and says that the air will be in no debt if the air gives it levitation as an ability this usually takes around 7 days and this process is called *Building the helicopter*
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 - yup, heard them all, including "a collection of spare parts flying in loose formation." My favorite being: Airplanes are different from helicopters. An airplane, by it's nature, wants to fly and unless interfered with too strongly by unusual circumstances or a deliberately incompetent pilot, the airplane will fly. A helicopter doesn't want to fly. It is supported in the air by a series of conflicting forces. Disrupt any one of those forces, and the helicopter stops flying, immediately and disastrously. There is no such things as a gliding helicopter. That's why, in general, airplane pilots are buoyant, clear eyed extroverts while helicopter pilots are brooders, introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something hasn't happened, it's about to! Still, all things considered, that helicopter pilot did a good job. The aircraft but bent but everyone inside (4 souls I believe) walked away with no injuries. I'm not sure a light airplane in the same situation would have faired as well but that's just speculation on my part.
@@monavie9110 - I think you're really picking nits on this one. The rotor blade on a helicopter is an "airfoil" (wing) just like the wings on a 747 are "airfoils" and wings on C172 are "airfoils" and the wings on a glider are "airfoils." They all manipulate the air in the same way. Air moves faster over the top of the wing than it does below thus creating a relative low pressure area on top of the airfoil (ie: wing!) and thus creating lift. They all do the same thing. They are all wings and they all create lift. The difference lies in the fact that the wings on a 747, C172, or glider are all fixed (stationary) relative to the fuselage of the aircraft while the rotors (wings) on a helicopter are not and the helicopters wings are not dependent on the motion of the aircraft as a whole to generate left which allows helicopters to do the one main thing that fixed wing aircraft will never be able to do. "Hover!"
I used to be one of your co-workers. I suspect they would have silenced aural alerts because the gear was up, which would have killed the RA callouts. If they habitually flare at a certain altitude they could have easily missed it, leading to an exceptionally hard landing. I've seen it happen in person, it's really easy to not notice the RA callouts are absent. It worked for us to have the 2 FO make the calls from the observer seat.
Thanks KeIsey appreciate how you breakdown things for normies. The audio on the last clip might be real. I've been on flights where the passengers have laughed off unusual outcomes.
I’ve always have a large amount of respect for helicopter pilots. I’ve been a passenger on a few of them and have enjoyed the experiences, but could never be fully comfortable in them, the lack of gliding ability was always at the back of my mind.
I like when you include some that are like awesome and impressive flying and congratulate them. Far too often people of the same profession seem to feel competitive and it's great, especially in this profession, to recognize and appreciate someone being a BA.
Watching these videos really helps calm my nerves about flying when I have to for work so I appreciate the knowledge and reassurance that everything is going to be fine even if things go bad.
@74gear, You can see @9:26, he realizes he caused the engine failure by not having his mags on. He attempts to turn them off only to see that he had never turned them on.
got to talk to an air ambulance pilot about emergency crash procedures, and he told us about the fuel cutoffs, and then said helicopter pilots are so conditioned to emergency shutdown procedures, that even if the pilot is killed in the crash, there's a 50% chance he will still hit the cutoffs.
You got to it before me lol. If you look up the original video, I think he only had his left mag on. You can see the key position before he takes off in the original long video. At least that's what I heard. I thought it was funny when he said, "give the pilot a beer", because the pilot caused it to go down himself! But, regardless he put it down, and everyone was okay sooooso? Would you offer him a beer knowing that? Haha 😂. (honest question) I wouldn't.
@@hesatwitchyone Years ago, I worked a coding job for a big sports website. Each weekend during football games, the site went down due to some legacy server code that wasn't optimized. Finally, a senior engineer was brought in to fix the issue. He was cheered a hero when he corrected it. Turns out when we looked up the code history, he was the original author in the first place. 🤦♂️
This was a Virgin Atlantic 747 29th Dec 2014 landing at Gatwick UK. That day I was flying a CAP 10C with my son over Kent coast at 5000 ft about midday (south east of gatwick) when we noticed a 747 coming out of Gatwick and it looked really strange. It was climbing with flaps and gear down heading straight towards us. I circled around and in a few minutes it passed directly over us at about 6000 ft. London TMA started at 5500, It obviously had problems, it was heading out to sea. Then as we watched it turned left and started back again so I hung around and waiting and realised it was holding over the Seaford SFD VOR which we were above. It went around a few times while it passed directly over our heads. (for those who dont know a CAP-10 its a 2 seat aerobatic plane with a bubble cockpit, so we had a spectacular view of the undercarridge. After the encounter we flew off and then later on the news that night found out what happened. The plane took off, had issues then spent the next several hours buring off fuel and trying a few landings to try to bump the undercarrige down, none of this worked so at some time after 15.00 it made a landing at Gatwick which is what your video shows. What really really annoyed me is that I had left the video camera in the car as we were going to fly aeros, so I have no film of this. Having video and being right underneath the plane meant I could have sold it to the news feeds for thousands. Never mind. It was a lot of fun though.
On my very first flight when I was 16, we were flying to Calif - pilot announces the hydrolics for landing gear has failed and they would need to manually lower the gear. They prepared us for crash landing - none of that seemed alarming to me for some reason - I thought all the preparations were a normal part of landing. Only when we actually did land safely but saw the runway lined with emergency vehicles did I actually realize how close we actually came to real problem.
At holiday dinners, Grandma never understood why Kelsey would interrupt the conversation every 4 minutes to explain how writing is hard and Grammarly can help.
In the last clip, they are actually landing at Kalibo International Airport in the province of Aklan, Philippines. From there, it's an hour and a half drive to Caticlan, where you take a ferry over to Boracay. Interestingly in about 2009, they extended that end of the runway by a couple hundred feet. So the area where the plane stopped is now concrete.
The last footage there, from The Philippines was actually at Kalibo airport, not Borocay and it happened way back in 2012. PROBABLE CAUSE The Aircraft Accident Investigation and Inquiry Board determined that the probable cause of this accident was: - CAUSE FACTOR - Primary Cause Factor a. Failure of the flight crew to discontinue the approach even though prevailing conditions suggest that a missed approach should have been more appropriate. (Human Factor) - Contributory Factor a. The decision of the Pilot Flying to take runway 23 at less than 4 DME putting them at a high work load that resulted to late configuration of the aircraft. (Human Factor)
i appreciate the "float" talk. just got back into flight sims with the new one out. hardest thing for me is the speed on approach. like you said it feels like it should just stop. but you have to glide sooooo slow(probably a lot different when in the cockpit), especially in bigger aircraft. i tend to stick to smaller planes so far. less speed, lighter, and way easier to land smooth.
I was on an international flight to South Korea from Florida, and there was some lady on the plane who stuffed a diaper into the toilet and clogged it. It caused the entire airplane to start flooding with lovely toilet water, and the captain had to do an emergency landing in Michigan. He informed us, rather excitedly, that we would get to see them dump fuel, which he said is something he had never done before and is fun to see and told us to take pictures.
I once was in a passenger plane that landed similar to the 777. After taxing safely off the runway the pilot came on the PA and say "well that's the last time I let one of the stewardess land the plane". Cracked everyone up and relieved the tension.
Just discovered your channel - very informative. I am going to recommend my son subscribes, too. He's currently learning to fly and could possibly be a bigger Av-geek than me. Thanks for sharing.
John.....get your son to listen to qualified instructors not a scruffy freighter co-pilot....who just expresses his opinion of what he thinks is right not what is right......
@@daftvader4218 Or he could listen to both, one for more entertainment and a few tips, and the other for the REQUIRED information and experience to be able to fly in the first place lol. It's not like this guy's son is going to listen to what this guy has to say and follow his advice over his actual instructors.
I plan on being a "Flight Attendant" in the future and a lot of your videos including Stella's are comforting and exciting for hopefully my future career!
Kelsey, yes the helicopter pilot did a great job saving it, but he also caused it. If you look at the position of the key, he only has one mag running. Instead of set to dual like it is supposed to be. I don't know what his boss had to say because he did save their lives. But he also caused the engine failure
Landed at MCO today after pilot aborted the initial attempt. Was armed with knowledge from your channel to calm my wife who was not keen to the sudden full throttle and elevation change. Thnaks man!!
Re: the 474 with the landing gear problem, I was surprised that some of the remaining tires didn't blow out. They are selected based on their share of total weight they have to carry, but now some of the tires aren't in contact with the runway, so they're bearing more of the load. Then, on top of that, the pilot drives the plane into the runway. Strong tires.
Actually that’s not correct. Boeing intentionally designed the 747 so you only needed one landing truck for redundancy. They were concerned that a failure would be catastrophic because of the high gross weight. . That was the thinking in the 1960’s.
Kelsey, Would you please consider an episode of seven for gear that talks about how you overcame various flying problems that were in fact very concerning? It would be really exciting to hear you tell how you overcame obstacles in the air to land under less than excellent conditions.
my grandfather used to fly pontoon planes in Minnesota, basically as a private fishing charter, he used to tell me, "Any landing you walk away from, is a good landing." I don't know if that truly applies, but it makes sense to me.
As a retired 777-300 long haul pax pilot, I agree with some of what you have said. I must say though that anyone with enough time flying to be in a 747 in that situation should be overly careful of your sink rate so as to make the transfer of weight to the remaining gear as soft as possible. I honestly can't cut these guys as much slack as you have. Given that, Boeing sure builds tough airplanes such that the G forces sustained in that landing didn't compromise the remaining gear. I have dumnped fuel only once in a 35 year career and I agree. It's an odd thing to do. Many believe that an overwieght landing is preferred to dumping fuel. I beleive if you have the time to dump it's one less thing to explain at the review board.
Hi Kelsey! After watching a ton of your videos (and others) I have a landing-related question: Since you're going maybe 150kts or so and your tires go from completely stationary to 150kts or so in an instant, we see tire smoke. Totally understandable. What's the average service life of a main gear tire on a 747? How often (under normal service) do tires have to be replaced? I would imagine they wear unevenly, and quickly. Thanks for the entertaining and informative content!
Hey Kelsey.. love your channel.. I’m a helicopter pilot and there is a longer version of the helicopter incident where he is starting the R44 up.. he completes a mag check ( you know what that is) but it looks pretty clear that he doesn’t turn the mags back to both and only leave it on one mag.. this is that caused the engine failure shorty after take off as it’s possible the mag was also faulty.. so he kinda caused this as well as saved it .. he do a good auto at low level though 😉
A life time ago I sat behind the Captain on the little jump seat on a BA 747-200 on the way to YYZ from LHR. I was working at RR at the time so enjoyd chatting with the Flight Eng for a couple hours. When we crossed into Newfoundland and Labrador we watched a couple Luftwaffe pilots practicing out of Goose Bay in the valleys below us. Pretty cool. Even more cool was sharing a few beers at the Brass Rail later that night in Toronto lol...
I have to watch each landing/film-clip twice. I first watch the aircraft then rewind to watch your facial expressions. The videos you’re making makes me want to change careers and become a pilot.
It would be so hilarious to watch you film a video judging by the blooper you posted on Instagram. Do you crack yourself up when editing or just end up thinking, "I'm such a dork..."
I landed in Nagoya in a 777 in windstorm, very windy and very rainy. It is my understanding that the 777 has a computer which puts in small increments to keep the flight level. We landed perfectly! When we got to the car and were driving out, it was difficult to keep the van on the road because of the gusty winds. That was the smoothest landing I have ever had.
The gear was stuck up. The firm contact with the ground was a deliberate attempt to dislodge it with the intention of converting it into a touch and go if it did start to come down. It didn't, so they carried on with it as a landing, hoping not to fall over sideways. This was Virgin Atlantic at Gatwick, in 2014, and the (unnamed) pilot in command is very experienced indeed, unflappable. His daughter was on board. The gear was stuck up because some strut had been installed the wrong way round in maintenance just prior to the flight (possibly on the ramp if memory serves), causing it to jam (and presumably to make a horrible noise) as the gear was retracted after take off.
Boracay has no airport, Caticlan is on the Island of panay where you take a ferry to boracay. Caticlan has ocean infront and back of its runway. The last airplane would end up in the ocean if its Boracay/Caticlan.
It seem funny to some but I realized that I have learned from Kelsey that every video I see of suboptimal landings is that I automatically look for the wind sock. I have to chuckle about it, but it's a great learning point.
I love how you give advice on how to land in a wind, and in my mind I'm thinking "yeah, yeah, good idea. I'll totally do that next time I'm landing a big jet. Thanks for the tip." I'm a doctor. lol
Every pilot is taught to increase the approach speed of a plane (even small private planes) when it's windy. I have forgotten the exact percentage of increase based on wind, but the information provided in the video is, as I noted, standard, varying of course for each type of aircraft.
@@jonshepard85 I wanna say half the guat factor. So if it's 15 gusting to 25, add 5 knots to normal approach speed.
Maybe you can leave some tips for 74Gear-Pilot on removing someone's tonsils or such. lol
Sometimes a passenger has had to land a plane, who knows that information might come in handy. Any knowledge you acquired is not wasted. LOL
@@ezell8884 only in Hollywood movies... you’re probably more likely to get struck by lightning several times than have to land a plane as a passenger.
The heli guy knew he wasn't going to clear the road and wires, good choice.
Right? I was thinking the same thing as it looked like he was going for the road first, saw the lines, and then turned it over to autorotate into the field.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing he's probably not going to make it past the road, and risking hitting a car would only make things worse. Great quick thinking and execution.
I swear you can see the moment he decides, pulls the nose up just a hair to guage his speed/loft and then immediately dives left down left hard to get some speed/loft for what I'd guess is a little more risky (tempting a sideways 'crash' or rotor hitting the dirt, but way safer than eating some power lines.)
He didn't have the required energy to make it, so he didn't have that option, at all.
Im just wondering why that guy had a gun😂
There is another point I would like to make about the helicopter pilot. He did a great job in telling his passengers "stay where you are". One of the hazards with an unpowered helicopter rotor is that they can suffer from an aeroelastic event called "blade sail", the sudden, unexpected departure from from its rotational plane. The tips of the rotor blades on a Bell OH13 (Sioux), a chopper I have both flown and worked on, are about 10 feet off the ground when stationary. I have seen the tip of an unpowered rotating blade sail down and strike 3 ft high fire extinguisher about half way up. The pilot kept his head, allowing his passengers to keep theirs!
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Completely agree, the chopper was in no immediate danger requiring an evacuation. Also, not only would blade sail be an issue, but they were also on uneven ground, so one side of the prop will be rotating towards the ground. Passengers can lose all common sense in a state of panic and find themselves making moronic decisions. Always best to make sure everything is completely shut down and come to a halt before allowing them to exit in a situation like this.
Kelsey's nod of approval for the KLM landing was precious.
It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that something as heavy as a 747 at close to max landing weight can BOUNCE and not drive the landing gear right up through the airplane. The engineers at Boeing who designed those landing gear struts really earned their money. The first time I saw a 747 bounce was at IAH and a Royal Jordanian plane bounced on landing. I actually thought I'd be interviewed on TV because I witnessed the crash. That was when I discovered just how stout those struts really are.
Now try to wrap your head around this. Ground pressure exists. The actual surface footprint of the tires is roughly 6 sq ft per tire. In this video, that's 12 instances of 6 sq ft, or 72 sq ft. Roughly 300,000 kilos are being divided between those 12 instances. Roughly 4160 kilos per square foot.
To put that into scale, the footprint of a standard cab pickup is roughly 175 sq ft. (7 foot wide, 25 foot long) and weighs roughly 2950 KG total (using a 2002 Ford F250 as my example)
Now, that runway has to put up with a sudden shock load comparable to stacking 2 full size trucks on top of one another, and then have them hit 1 square foot of area...
Not sure about that particular runway, but the regional here had to have 6 feet of concrete under the 6 inches of asphalt just to land the "puddle jumper" dash 800 turboprops. Just how deep do you think that runway has to be?
@@nunyabidness674😮
19:27 that was actually an Airphil express A320, flight 969, and yes that was the original audio, and yes the investigation cited the cause as pilot error.
The airport was Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK) which "serves" Boracay but is actually a good 40 miles from Boracay which is an island without an airport of its own. The runway at the time was 7175 feet long, which is on the short side but not extremely so, I mean, LaGuardia's runways are only 7000 feet. It looks like poor speed management to me and not having a stabilized approach.
@@alexmollen9339 Are you sure? It is the former Caticlan Airport that has changed name to Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) and after extending the runway it can actually take an A320 now, if handled with care. I went there once in the old days when you had to fly with an ATR42. I admit that judging from the surroundings it does look a lot more like Kalibo., but then why would Kelsey call it Boracay?
@@tommyrjensen A quick look at Google Maps told me that they would have ended up in the ocean at Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) at both ends of the runway. So definitely Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK).
@@tommyrjensen it is definitely Kalibo. Air Phil Express was already rebranded to PAL express when RPVE was expanded to accomodate the A320. See also the terminal building a few meters from the runway threshold. Thats the terminal building of RPVK those days.
I hope the report also praised the pilot’s actions!
I did a go-around a week ago! Really cool that this channel taught me what was going on. I spoke to the captain afterwards and apparently the tower was signaling the incorrect runway 😬 Captain was pretty upset about it.
That is understandable. As an aviator myself, I know that some of the worst crashes in history were a result of miscommunication, or ATC errors
I thought you meant you flew a go around at first! 🤣 I was momentarily puzzled that you’d only learned from RUclips what was going on before I realised you’d been a passenger!
@@moiraatkinson Same. For a minute I thought he myst have been the co-pilot of Flight 420 to San Francisco, if he learned about go-arounds from this channel.
@@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser Yeah, the Tenerife disaster has been, IIRC, the worst by fatalities in history, and was caused in large part by a series of the ground and tower miscommunications with the flight crews. :(
@@cykkm Yeah, there is one I remember seeing a documentary on where a bunch of mishaps occurred all at once, leading to two jumbo jets colliding on the runway, as one was crossing, and the other taking off
As someone who has a massive fear of planes, watching your content has helped calm me so much. I think just learning about how things work and how much the pilots know really helps, and you explain things so well!
Good for You...way to go......but watching this channel and a couple more I will never fly again.......keeping my feet on the ground
@@haroldk724 Commercial flights are extremely safe and it is proven that more people have died in car crashes while traveling to the airport than have died in aircraft. The huge majority of aircraft deaths are in privately owned small aircraft. I don't know the exact dates but there was a 10 year period of time between 2009 and 2019 where not one person died in a commercial airplane crash in the USA.
i only fear when im not flying it, like driving
if someone drives me i get violently ill and im so stressed
@@cherb23 at least you can avoid situations when you are driving yourself. I would never take public transportation, especially commercial flights, i dont trust them.
@@coffee8814 you can''t avoid anything when other people crash into your car.
I'll further compliment those helicopter pilots (who I just noticed were probably hunting based on the AR15 in the cockpit lol) by saying they didn't immediately go for their gopros like some other people and instead made sure everyone was alright first, then doing whatever they did to make sure the helicopter was shutting down properly. I also like how they kept an upbeat mood to keep everyone calm and cheerful. THAT is how you handle a stressful situation. 👏
The AR is the equivalent of gopros for some people.
Looks like they may have been hog hunting. I know they're a nuisance in some states, like Texas. Ranchers will let, or maybe even pay, these guys to come and thin out the population of hogs on their property. Some ppl shoot them and some ppl run dogs on them. I've never been for letting dogs get hurt for hogs, I'd rather just shoot the hogs with cheap ammo, if i had to. I can't stand seeing a poor dog get gutted.
Also how they made sure people stayed inside until the rotors stopped.
Is hunting from a helicopter legal anywhere in the US? If I were using a helicopter as transportation to a hunting site, the long guns would be in a case.
@@Av8or7 I'm not 100% sure on the legality of it in TX. The only person I know personally that's done it was flying with the owner of the property. The owner of the property owned the helicopter and has a helicopter pilots license. The owner/pilot is a Vietnam vet that flew hueys, and lives on a couple thousand acres in BFE Texas.
That KLM landing was smoooooooth. Passengers would have barely felt it. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I've flown with KLM many times and I have to say they have amazing pilots.
I liked the helicopter guys attitude to the crash. After asking if everybody was ok, and all of them replied with a yes, he only had one thing to say.
"Perfect"
The chopper is probably heavily damaged. Lots of paper work etc etc but all that really mattered to him is everybody was unhurt.
Props to the pilot.
Seriously...he needs new props.
... and a takeoff checklist apparently, according to others here who pointed out a magneto switch oversight.
hey, this is my avatar. get your own, copycat!
That’s one hung I’ve always loved about helicopters. While you fixed wing folks get lots of time to plan things out when your engine(s) go quiet, you also need a LOT of room to land.
We don’t have much time… but only need an area 1/2 the size of a tennis court to pull it off 😃
"Wind shear is something that is hard to determine because it's wind..." - my brain in auto complete mode: "and it shears"
I thought the same thing as I was reading your comment
The term "wind shear" uses shear as a noun, as in a type of force. This is opposed to a centrifugal force caused by a rotating mass.
@@Jukkala Thanks 👍🏼 Obviously, we all live on a rotating mass called Earth. Centrifugal "forces" are therefore very real in our daily lives, no need to explain. However, spontaneous local wind shears and downdrafts are not something to mess with, especially in small aircraft
I am a How to train your dragon fan, and to me, and many other fans, this means something else
@@berkiaskyclan2948 yep
I have a special place in my heart for the 747. It's the plane that brought me home from Iraq.
I flew in a Atlas Air 747 when I got back home from some deployment, I think it was Panama but not sure.
Kelsey, your videos are just incredible. The way that you explain everything to even the most uneducated viewers is spot on. Thanks for the patience that you have in all of the explanations of every different scenario in your videos! I have really enjoyed every one that I have watched. Keep up the great work!
The clean, empty hotel background makes me smile…it’s great to see stop overs being used for more than drinking or sleeping.. the videos and explanations are even better!
Rotor Pilots ROCK! Lots of hours fixed wing and lots of hour in rotors. Love it!!! Good job Kelsey!!!!
He had a bad mag ground and it allowed him to take off with mags off. Vibration found the ground and lost the engine. He’s young and will learn from his mistake.
I love the way Kelsey says...
"Comin' up..."
"Let's get into it..."
"Keep the blue side up."
And his unique capabilities of not blinking eyes
Pilots ain’t got time to blink.
Dude, you are a really good orator. Excellent emphasis, comedy, facial expressions, etc., a perfectly executed landing every time.
I just love how freaking polite everyone is! No muss no fuss...total calm! Amazingly confident and competent pilot!
18:52 Was not expecting a 747 pilot to imitate the sound of speed brakes lmao
These are always entertaining! My dad flew Vulcans, and later Jaguars for the RAF and I remember he used to say 'tell your friends your dad is a fighter pilot, Sue' 😀 ''
These days you can boast My Dad flew VULCAN'S!
@Glow in the dark yes we were stationed at Lossiemouth and later Coltishall. He got up to some hair raising stuff I guess some of which im finding out sbout now.My sister had a flight in a Jaguar with him-not me I haven't the guts for it! I recall the Nimrod planes ,two of the first plane names I learnt were nimrod and lightnings (SO loud)
@@paintedblue1791 hey yeah, i loved that plane, used to see it from the playground
coming in, and hear that sound and be like 'yay the Dads are back!'
Wow, lucky him, the Vulcan is such a cool plane
the insight in the beginning of this video is extremely insightful and the work you put into these videos is greatly appreciated. thanks man keep making great content
Kelsey is mistaken on the first vid. I remember watching this one. They came in hard to try and bounce the under carriage loose. They had a spotter that would have told them if the wheel had come down. If it would have dropped, they would have taken back off, circled and come back in for a normal landing.
The hard landing was deliberate
I fact-checked and found you are correct and it sure makes sense. 👍🏻
This was my first thought when I saw this clip. Glad to hear it was intentional. I suspect they knew the exact sink rate they could hit at safely.
My father was a 747 captain when he retired. He was methodical and sharp and everything was intentional.
WRONG. He bounced, simply because the hyd problem he had meant that some of the elevator surfaces were not available, thus catching him out when he tried to do his normal flare. The slowness of the aircraft's response is not something normally practiced and therefore entirely excusable.
bullshit. See correct explanation from MegaWeebles below.
@@12345fowler I was listening to it live on BBC and SkyNews at the time. The thing was flying around for hours before it came to land. The crew said that they were going to attempt it before they did it. Their conversations with ATC were broadcast live at the time.
You know you can disagree with someone without going all Rain Man. No need to swear.
The guy who set the world record for helicopter altitude (Jean Boulet) also set the record for autorotation during the same flight, safely landing from 40,000ft after his engine flamed out due to the cold.
1:08 that's the pilot hi five that slight nod is a great job bro.
11:58 is the opposite that look is priceless. lol
14:49 so good the smile turns in to the nod then turns into a nice! that's a touchdown right there
that autorotation was perfect, love how he realised there were power lines too and altered his course
A good auto starts with making sure both mags are on.... : P
@@tmanf22 Did he have the time, or the ability to take hands + focus off flight controls to actually do that? A good auto ends with everyone alive surely.
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 no, but if he followed the checklist he wouldn't have taken off without both mags on and thus not crashing
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 It's fairly safe to assume the pilot was the guy in the right seat and the passenger in the left. We can also see there's no controls attached on the left so it is definitely a passenger and not a fellow pilot.
@@tmanf22 Fair point!
That helo pilot did a fantastic job; he had no time at all at that altitude to even think about it. Not only find a place to set down but missed the road too. I'd fly with him anytime.
You'd fly with a guy who happily takes off with the magneto switches set to off'? And then sheepishly looks at the camera when he goes to turn them off after they've crashed?
Yeah Rob, took the word out of my mouth. I think he did a great job not killing them after, but he also caused it. Anyone can make mistakes, but thats what check lists are for. If you go by memory, you'll miss something for sure
More importantly he moved quickly to avoid the power lines lining the road. Would have be a sad ending if he'd tripped into those. ⚡
During the flight, the key was facing 2 o clock. After shutdown it was facing 10 o clock. You can't do a 90 degree rotation from off to off.
@@ovalteen4404 what are you saying? If you watch the actual video, you can clearly see the key in the same position after the crash as before he started his take off. You can see him switch it to off during his shut down procedure. He didnt have the switch off in flight, it was on a single mag not both, as it should be at all times unless doing a mag check.
I'm not even a pilot but I've always been fascinated with planes. Kelsey explains these concepts so well for lay-people!
There've been times when I've had some smooth landings and you don't even notice and other times when it's really rough and people clap when it's finally over! Guess it all depends on the different factors that the captains were facing on that particular day!
I used to float like a butterfly... until I almost rode off into a random house on the end of the runway.
Expert FS2020 pilot here.
I've done my share of floating in Kerbal Space Program. Bouncing too.
Rumour has it that the Korean Air flight was charged four landing fees!
Captain Kangaroo had to pay for one of them personally :D
But they got to log four landings in their log book.
Nope. You guys got it all wrong. The pilot had found a copy of Rhinestone Cowboy and after removing 19 years of dust he put it in his DVD player and didn't even blink for the next 2 hours. He then decided to enter a bull riding competition at the end of his next shift. So what we all witnessed was just a warm up practice session. That pilot has a right to dream, and who are we to judge? 😆🤣😂
I see bush copter and first thought is Australia for some reason, immediately upon seeing AR-15 I said out loud "Oh, they are in Texas"
~~Lol~~ 🚁
Pig shoots from helicopter probably
@@kevinfeeney7371 That is 100% what it was. I would bet good money that it is a pig shoot in Texas lol.
Yeah ive seen the original video post of that, was a hog hunt.
re: hog hunt. wow, how brave of those hunters - not!!!! 😼
I swear you have become my therapy. If ever I am blue I just check in with you and my spirit is always lifted. That's pretty awesome.
How you ever said "Coming Up" when ATC asks you to climb?
no but I think now I have to do it, next time I am announcing my flight on IG so you can listen to ATC I will try to slide that in there.
Kelsey: vee one, rotate, positive climb
Captain: Gear up
Kelsey: Gear........ coming up!
@@74gear You should do one of the voices for car navigation systems. "Right turn... coming up."
"Cargo 456, LA Center, climb and maintain FL 340."
"Flight level 340, Coming Up!"
I'm about 0.9% sure that's in the AIM under Proper Phraseology.
"Ok so he's coming in for an emergency landing, why didn't he aim for the road? Wow that descent was rapid...OH SHIT HE'S IN A CHOPPER NEVERMIND."
Probably wouldn't have been able to reach it and still line up with the road. Auto rotations are very steep, especially if you take up a nose down attitude. My question is this, why did he fly it into the ground, he never slowed his ground speed with a flair.
Watched a vid about the development of helicopters. They were still VERY new and individually made and a man was trying to convince some rich people to invest. Final argument that swung the deal?
"This machine is going to save a lot of lives."
As someone has already noted he probably wasn't sure if he could get that far.
Also, dirt has a bit of "give" to it which helps when you have fixed skids instead of landing gear with shock absorbers....
@@rattler24 If he hadn't slowed his descent, they'd all be pancakes. Notice how not far off the ground they were in the first place, there weren't a whole lot of autorotation to work with, especially after eating up some of the speed to turn away from the road.
Love the WW1 pilot quote « When an engine fails you need to wind your watch » one could use this in life. I just found your channel and bingeing! 😍🇨🇦
just wanting to tell ya that I appreciate a TON that you upload in 1440p too. It's my native resolution and I love it!
Thank you so much not only for that but also for the insanely awesome content!
The helicopter pilot did a great landing, but caused the accident in the first place by taking off with the magneto switches in the off position! Those switches fail to "on" if they have a bad connection, so that's why they were able to take off. You can see it in the full video and in his expression when he sees they're off as they're shutting down. Lesson: ALWAYS DO CHECKLISTS!!!!
Perfectly good hog hunting day shot to hell! Welcome to Texas!
Ummm no magneto switches do not turn on the magneto by closing the switch. Magnetos are always on. The switch in the "off" position is actually a closed switch, not an open one. It works by grounding the P-lead in the off position which grounds out the magneto stopping the spark. If a mag switch fails open or the p-leas breaks or is disconnected, the only way you can shut down the engine is by closing the mixture.
That runway in Boracay(RPVE) is really short. A320s barely fit there. My company actually requires MED braking action, full reverse, and full flaps when landing there. Nice video @kelsey
the video's in Kalibo RPVK
@@GugsGunny well that makes sense. RPVE’s clearway is water, not some rice paddies. Thanks!
I admire how calm were the passengers on that helicopter during and after the mishap. In my case, I'd be just like the giraffe in your Madagascar video. Greetings from Argentina.
Greetings from Argentina times two! 😁
@@lovelandtales527 ¡Qué grande!
You can see the passenger has a rifle and ammo. Probably some sort of aerial hunt, so I reckon this wasn't their first time in a helicopter....hell, maybe not even their first engine out.
Five seconds is not much time to even to begin processing emotion if you are going down.
@@larrybe2900 Agreed, they were likely almost on the ground by the time the passengers comprehended what was about to happen.
Even in a plane, the stories and video you see from real emergency landings everyone is typically pretty calm. Reality isn't dramatic enough for Hollywood - the place most people get their idea of emergencies (and how a courtroom works).
You are one of my favorite youtuber! I love the energy and all the information distilled with such distinguished humor!
I've flown KLM a few times, and I've probably flown just around 10-15 times in my life (at 23), and out of all the flights I've been on, KLM seems to have either stellar pilots or stellar luck with weather at landing, because every time I've flown with them the landings have been so smooth you barely noticed the plane touching down. All other flights have either been rocky or downright scary landings.
"Any day now." I love your dry humor!
That rotor blade spinning above your head isn't "acting" like your wing, it IS your wing!! ;-)
No. It's acting. Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission.
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 no not beating the helicopters become good friends with the air and do many favors for it and once it has the airs full trust it social manipulates it into feeling bad for all of the things the helicopter has done for it and says that the air will be in no debt if the air gives it levitation as an ability this usually takes around 7 days and this process is called *Building the helicopter*
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 - yup, heard them all, including "a collection of spare parts flying in loose formation." My favorite being:
Airplanes are different from helicopters. An airplane, by it's nature, wants to fly and unless interfered with too strongly by unusual circumstances or a deliberately incompetent pilot, the airplane will fly. A helicopter doesn't want to fly. It is supported in the air by a series of conflicting forces. Disrupt any one of those forces, and the helicopter stops flying, immediately and disastrously. There is no such things as a gliding helicopter. That's why, in general, airplane pilots are buoyant, clear eyed extroverts while helicopter pilots are brooders, introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something hasn't happened, it's about to!
Still, all things considered, that helicopter pilot did a good job. The aircraft but bent but everyone inside (4 souls I believe) walked away with no injuries. I'm not sure a light airplane in the same situation would have faired as well but that's just speculation on my part.
no it IS a rotor blade. different kind of air manipulation, same function
@@monavie9110 - I think you're really picking nits on this one. The rotor blade on a helicopter is an "airfoil" (wing) just like the wings on a 747 are "airfoils" and wings on C172 are "airfoils" and the wings on a glider are "airfoils." They all manipulate the air in the same way. Air moves faster over the top of the wing than it does below thus creating a relative low pressure area on top of the airfoil (ie: wing!) and thus creating lift. They all do the same thing. They are all wings and they all create lift. The difference lies in the fact that the wings on a 747, C172, or glider are all fixed (stationary) relative to the fuselage of the aircraft while the rotors (wings) on a helicopter are not and the helicopters wings are not dependent on the motion of the aircraft as a whole to generate left which allows helicopters to do the one main thing that fixed wing aircraft will never be able to do. "Hover!"
I used to be one of your co-workers. I suspect they would have silenced aural alerts because the gear was up, which would have killed the RA callouts. If they habitually flare at a certain altitude they could have easily missed it, leading to an exceptionally hard landing. I've seen it happen in person, it's really easy to not notice the RA callouts are absent. It worked for us to have the 2 FO make the calls from the observer seat.
“I’m 6 feet tall” That sounds like something a 5’11” guy would say.
Outa my way shrimp.
Do we know each other?
@@brentbarnhart5827 I don’t think so
It was joke, I'm 5'11"
@@brentbarnhart5827 haha good one.
God, I don't know what's better... watching the planes or Kelsey's face 😂 I subscribed for both.
Thanks KeIsey appreciate how you breakdown things for normies. The audio on the last clip might be real. I've been on flights where the passengers have laughed off unusual outcomes.
I’ve always have a large amount of respect for helicopter pilots. I’ve been a passenger on a few of them and have enjoyed the experiences, but could never be fully comfortable in them, the lack of gliding ability was always at the back of my mind.
When I saw that Korean 777 landing video I came straight to this channel right after.
Helicopter pilot is a damn hero! Saved lives with his skill and mind.
I think Ryan Air has been thinking about how to stack passengers all the way up to the ceiling without seats...tickets gonna be super cheap...
I like when you include some that are like awesome and impressive flying and congratulate them. Far too often people of the same profession seem to feel competitive and it's great, especially in this profession, to recognize and appreciate someone being a BA.
Watching these videos really helps calm my nerves about flying when I have to for work so I appreciate the knowledge and reassurance that everything is going to be fine even if things go bad.
OMG 74 Gear waddup? I love ur vids sooooo much, keep up the goo work matey
thanks Pro, glad to hear it, thanks for watching!
@74gear, You can see @9:26, he realizes he caused the engine failure by not having his mags on. He attempts to turn them off only to see that he had never turned them on.
Yeah, this was a self inflicted crash landing.
got to talk to an air ambulance pilot about emergency crash procedures, and he told us about the fuel cutoffs, and then said helicopter pilots are so conditioned to emergency shutdown procedures, that even if the pilot is killed in the crash, there's a 50% chance he will still hit the cutoffs.
You got to it before me lol. If you look up the original video, I think he only had his left mag on. You can see the key position before he takes off in the original long video. At least that's what I heard. I thought it was funny when he said, "give the pilot a beer", because the pilot caused it to go down himself! But, regardless he put it down, and everyone was okay sooooso? Would you offer him a beer knowing that? Haha 😂. (honest question) I wouldn't.
How did he start engine, take off and fly to the point of engine failure with the mags off?
@@hesatwitchyone Years ago, I worked a coding job for a big sports website. Each weekend during football games, the site went down due to some legacy server code that wasn't optimized. Finally, a senior engineer was brought in to fix the issue. He was cheered a hero when he corrected it. Turns out when we looked up the code history, he was the original author in the first place. 🤦♂️
19:52 I have said "Any day now" myself while waiting to touch down for a landing...
This was a Virgin Atlantic 747 29th Dec 2014 landing at Gatwick UK.
That day I was flying a CAP 10C with my son over Kent coast at 5000 ft about midday (south east of gatwick) when we noticed a 747 coming out of Gatwick and it looked really strange. It was climbing with flaps and gear down heading straight towards us.
I circled around and in a few minutes it passed directly over us at about 6000 ft. London TMA started at 5500, It obviously had problems, it was heading out to sea.
Then as we watched it turned left and started back again so I hung around and waiting and realised it was holding over the Seaford SFD VOR which we were above. It went around a few times while it passed directly over our heads. (for those who dont know a CAP-10 its a 2 seat aerobatic plane with a bubble cockpit, so we had a spectacular view of the undercarridge.
After the encounter we flew off and then later on the news that night found out what happened.
The plane took off, had issues then spent the next several hours buring off fuel and trying a few landings to try to bump the undercarrige down, none of this worked so at some time after 15.00 it made a landing at Gatwick which is what your video shows.
What really really annoyed me is that I had left the video camera in the car as we were going to fly aeros, so I have no film of this. Having video and being right underneath the plane meant I could have sold it to the news feeds for thousands. Never mind. It was a lot of fun though.
On my very first flight when I was 16, we were flying to Calif - pilot announces the hydrolics for landing gear has failed and they would need to manually lower the gear. They prepared us for crash landing - none of that seemed alarming to me for some reason - I thought all the preparations were a normal part of landing. Only when we actually did land safely but saw the runway lined with emergency vehicles did I actually realize how close we actually came to real problem.
Hi Kelsey, grandma Joanne here. Great videos today 😊. I love them all 😍
thanks for watching G-ma Joanne.
At holiday dinners, Grandma never understood why Kelsey would interrupt the conversation every 4 minutes to explain how writing is hard and Grammarly can help.
In the last clip, they are actually landing at Kalibo International Airport in the province of Aklan, Philippines. From there, it's an hour and a half drive to Caticlan, where you take a ferry over to Boracay. Interestingly in about 2009, they extended that end of the runway by a couple hundred feet. So the area where the plane stopped is now concrete.
Thanks for the info. What airline was this?
@@kiyosaru1 I think it was air Phil before they were bought by pal
This explains why the video quality is so potato, if it's really that old.
Yeah, this couldn’t have been Caticlan airport, as there’s the sea on both ends of the runway. They would have ended up in the water...
@@kirkleiber1412 Indeed. That is a tight runway.
The last footage there, from The Philippines was actually at Kalibo airport, not Borocay and it happened way back in 2012.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The Aircraft Accident Investigation and Inquiry Board determined that the probable cause of this accident was:
- CAUSE FACTOR
- Primary Cause Factor
a. Failure of the flight crew to discontinue the approach even though prevailing conditions suggest that a missed approach should have been more appropriate. (Human Factor)
- Contributory Factor
a. The decision of the Pilot Flying to take runway 23 at less than 4 DME putting them at a high work load that resulted to late configuration of the aircraft. (Human Factor)
i appreciate the "float" talk. just got back into flight sims with the new one out. hardest thing for me is the speed on approach. like you said it feels like it should just stop. but you have to glide sooooo slow(probably a lot different when in the cockpit), especially in bigger aircraft. i tend to stick to smaller planes so far. less speed, lighter, and way easier to land smooth.
I was on an international flight to South Korea from Florida, and there was some lady on the plane who stuffed a diaper into the toilet and clogged it. It caused the entire airplane to start flooding with lovely toilet water, and the captain had to do an emergency landing in Michigan. He informed us, rather excitedly, that we would get to see them dump fuel, which he said is something he had never done before and is fun to see and told us to take pictures.
I once was in a passenger plane that landed similar to the 777. After taxing safely off the runway the pilot came on the PA and say "well that's the last time I let one of the stewardess land the plane". Cracked everyone up and relieved the tension.
Just discovered your channel - very informative. I am going to recommend my son subscribes, too. He's currently learning to fly and could possibly be a bigger Av-geek than me. Thanks for sharing.
John.....get your son to listen to qualified instructors not a scruffy freighter co-pilot....who just expresses his opinion of what he thinks is right not what is right......
@@daftvader4218 Or he could listen to both, one for more entertainment and a few tips, and the other for the REQUIRED information and experience to be able to fly in the first place lol. It's not like this guy's son is going to listen to what this guy has to say and follow his advice over his actual instructors.
I plan on being a "Flight Attendant" in the future and a lot of your videos including Stella's are comforting and exciting for hopefully my future career!
14:45 an artist
Can you react to the air Canada asked to go around but does not?
Ya it’s coming up later this year
Today you posted the same time with me. Are you trying to steal my view lol
Ok
@@74gear lol, you said the thing
Kelsey, yes the helicopter pilot did a great job saving it, but he also caused it. If you look at the position of the key, he only has one mag running. Instead of set to dual like it is supposed to be. I don't know what his boss had to say because he did save their lives. But he also caused the engine failure
Came looking for this. TY.
Landed at MCO today after pilot aborted the initial attempt. Was armed with knowledge from your channel to calm my wife who was not keen to the sudden full throttle and elevation change. Thnaks man!!
Cool channel bro! This isn't something I would usually be interested in watching but you have a gift of making it so.
Re: the 474 with the landing gear problem, I was surprised that some of the remaining tires didn't blow out. They are selected based on their share of total weight they have to carry, but now some of the tires aren't in contact with the runway, so they're bearing more of the load. Then, on top of that, the pilot drives the plane into the runway. Strong tires.
In several similar clips I've seen some tires almost always blow out.
The what with the landing gear problem?
Actually that’s not correct. Boeing intentionally designed the 747 so you only needed one landing truck for redundancy. They were concerned that a failure would be catastrophic because of the high gross weight. . That was the thinking in the 1960’s.
Kelsey, I wish I had videos from when I was learning to fly in a Piper Cub. Bouncing down the runway and doing group loops.
it would be good if I had those too to show how terrible it was when I started 😆
Kelsey,
Would you please consider an episode of seven for gear that talks about how you overcame various flying problems that were in fact very concerning? It would be really exciting to hear you tell how you overcame obstacles in the air to land under less than excellent conditions.
I enjoy your videos. Every time I watch one I learn something new. Thank you.
my grandfather used to fly pontoon planes in Minnesota, basically as a private fishing charter, he used to tell me, "Any landing you walk away from, is a good landing." I don't know if that truly applies, but it makes sense to me.
As a retired 777-300 long haul pax pilot, I agree with some of what you have said. I must say though that anyone with enough time flying to be in a 747 in that situation should be overly careful of your sink rate so as to make the transfer of weight to the remaining gear as soft as possible. I honestly can't cut these guys as much slack as you have. Given that, Boeing sure builds tough airplanes such that the G forces sustained in that landing didn't compromise the remaining gear. I have dumnped fuel only once in a 35 year career and I agree. It's an odd thing to do. Many believe that an overwieght landing is preferred to dumping fuel. I beleive if you have the time to dump it's one less thing to explain at the review board.
Hi Kelsey! After watching a ton of your videos (and others) I have a landing-related question: Since you're going maybe 150kts or so and your tires go from completely stationary to 150kts or so in an instant, we see tire smoke. Totally understandable. What's the average service life of a main gear tire on a 747? How often (under normal service) do tires have to be replaced? I would imagine they wear unevenly, and quickly. Thanks for the entertaining and informative content!
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the last plane actually rolled off the end of the runway onto grass.
Hey Kelsey.. love your channel.. I’m a helicopter pilot and there is a longer version of the helicopter incident where he is starting the R44 up.. he completes a mag check ( you know what that is) but it looks pretty clear that he doesn’t turn the mags back to both and only leave it on one mag.. this is that caused the engine failure shorty after take off as it’s possible the mag was also faulty.. so he kinda caused this as well as saved it .. he do a good auto at low level though 😉
Thanks for all the aviation knowledge. I’m learning a lot I’m starting flight school on the first of the year. Keep up the good work. 👍✈️✈️✈️✈️
Can you make an ATC vs pilots on that Antonov 124 that requested a pushback after getting out of the end of the runway in Sao Paulo this week?
Great video Kelsey i think the 747 pilot wanted to shake the jammed gear loose with the bounce.
One of the best on RUclips. Love your videos mate, keep up the good work!
You + Captain Joe = best avaitors
i love joe
Don't forget Mentour Pilot
A life time ago I sat behind the Captain on the little jump seat on a BA 747-200 on the way to YYZ from LHR. I was working at RR at the time so enjoyd chatting with the Flight Eng for a couple hours. When we crossed into Newfoundland and Labrador we watched a couple Luftwaffe pilots practicing out of Goose Bay in the valleys below us. Pretty cool. Even more cool was sharing a few beers at the Brass Rail later that night in Toronto lol...
I have to watch each landing/film-clip twice. I first watch the aircraft then rewind to watch your facial expressions. The videos you’re making makes me want to change careers and become a pilot.
I was on that Korean airlines flight and the cabin crew were yelling brace brace brace because they thought we were gonna crash into somthing
Hey you got a cool story to tell now .
It would be so hilarious to watch you film a video judging by the blooper you posted on Instagram. Do you crack yourself up when editing or just end up thinking, "I'm such a dork..."
That blooper 250000 knots here we go lmao
I vote for Blooper Reel... I can imagine there's some funny shit on that. Kelsey, roll out the Blooper Reel
Looked like a silky smooth TD!
Thank you for getting me interesting in something new! I am definitely glad I found your channel!
I was here just for the comin up 😂
now I need to start putting that in the middle of the video
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@@74gear 😂
I landed in Nagoya in a 777 in windstorm, very windy and very rainy. It is my understanding that the 777 has a computer which puts in small increments to keep the flight level. We landed perfectly! When we got to the car and were driving out, it was difficult to keep the van on the road because of the gusty winds. That was the smoothest landing I have ever had.
The gear was stuck up. The firm contact with the ground was a deliberate attempt to dislodge it with the intention of converting it into a touch and go if it did start to come down. It didn't, so they carried on with it as a landing, hoping not to fall over sideways. This was Virgin Atlantic at Gatwick, in 2014, and the (unnamed) pilot in command is very experienced indeed, unflappable. His daughter was on board. The gear was stuck up because some strut had been installed the wrong way round in maintenance just prior to the flight (possibly on the ramp if memory serves), causing it to jam (and presumably to make a horrible noise) as the gear was retracted after take off.
Correct 👍🏻. Such a frightening thing to happen over something so stupid too.
What's he talking about with that hard touchdown? Those guys are clearly navy and it was perfect :D
that KLM 74 was butter smooth
Last time i was this early the Wright Brothers flew
Last time I was this early the Baugettes put a cat into space.
Ahhh my alter ego Wilbur will be so happy
Boracay has no airport, Caticlan is on the Island of panay where you take a ferry to boracay. Caticlan has ocean infront and back of its runway.
The last airplane would end up in the ocean if its Boracay/Caticlan.
It was actually in Kalibo.
It seem funny to some but I realized that I have learned from Kelsey that every video I see of suboptimal landings is that I automatically look for the wind sock. I have to chuckle about it, but it's a great learning point.