Going Deeper with Jess Vestal | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper, with Perfect Match’s Jess Vestal.
    Today we have a bonus episode, and boy is it filled with JUICY tea. How was Jess’ time on Perfect Match? How has her experience been in the public eye? And, where is she now in dating?
    “If that’s what clout means, I don’t want any of it”
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    02:15 - Getting To Know Jess
    20:48 - Love Is Blind
    25:40 - Perfect Match
    31:27 - Past Relationships
    34:41 - Intentions
    43:20 - Potential
    47:44 - Harry
    55:06 - The Footage
    59:43 - Getting Back Together
    01:10:58 - Beach Photos
    01:12:41 - Second Breakup
    01:33:24 - Changes
    01:40:01 - Buzzwords
    01:48:24 - Whats Next
    01:57:54 - Outro

Комментарии • 694

  • @CaroToledo
    @CaroToledo 20 дней назад +641

    I like how he mentioned how Harry is the scariest type of person because as I watched the show I was like this man is terrifying, he manipulates like it’s second nature to him

    • @Corynenicole
      @Corynenicole 19 дней назад +27

      He manipulates so good atp he doesn't even realize he's doing it

    • @desiree_fraser
      @desiree_fraser 16 дней назад +6

      I know it's actually terrifying

    • @carolinasouth3117
      @carolinasouth3117 14 дней назад

      Right!? And she acts scared to say anything negative about him

    • @IloveJesus777j77
      @IloveJesus777j77 14 дней назад +2

      Romans 10:9-11 says, "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".​@@Corynenicole

    • @IloveJesus777j77
      @IloveJesus777j77 14 дней назад +2

      ​@@desiree_fraserRomans 10:9-11 says, "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved".😊

  • @carolinasouth3117
    @carolinasouth3117 20 дней назад +862

    Knowing her past, highlights what a horrible person Harry is because he saw her as an easy weak target and took advantage of her, he’s not a hurt person hurting people, he’s just an asshole

    • @lgrant1313131
      @lgrant1313131 20 дней назад

      Harry is scum he never deserved her or anyone at that

    • @lauramoor7730
      @lauramoor7730 20 дней назад

      Who is this

    • @julissa3996
      @julissa3996 20 дней назад

      oo love this oi

    • @stacies89
      @stacies89 20 дней назад +30

      I legit think he’s a sociopath 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @M22986
      @M22986 20 дней назад +1

      Basically every(!) a.-hole worldwide, male, female or intersex, is a 'hurt person hurting people.' 'Hurt people hurt people, & happy people help people.'
      I was impressed that Jessica didn't try to cheat with Jimmy, even though they almost became a couple, & Jimmy said Jessica was attractive, obviously.
      I have way more respect for Jessica now, knowing she was tragically abused in foster care until getting adopted at 16. I hope she finds a decent boyfriend, and thanks for publicly admitting you have a stomach disorder (same with Natalie saying her sister has a stomach disorder). Most Americans/people keep that secret, out of incorrect 'embarrassment.' Vaccine injuries can cause stomach disorders.

  • @charlynnhannan1002
    @charlynnhannan1002 20 дней назад +1094

    Jess for BACHELORETTE!! We need the crossover and see a success story for her.

    • @julietteSoul
      @julietteSoul 20 дней назад +22

      That show is no different especially with all the fame chasers that sign up to meet the woman or man that is the lead. Or even the lead🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Yittties
      @Yittties 20 дней назад +4

      I SECOND THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY

    • @Heartllessly
      @Heartllessly 20 дней назад +10

      I was about to nominate her for bachelorette but apparently I need to know her on a much personal level 😒😒😂

    • @Sdority905
      @Sdority905 19 дней назад +9

      Oh dear gd no I hope she does not do that. She deserves better than a bachelor tv show.

    • @breannasmith7580
      @breannasmith7580 19 дней назад

      I would love this

  • @Serenity.Stephi
    @Serenity.Stephi 20 дней назад +502

    Jess- “he was like, ya I’m gonna leave the chat” was so brutal 😂 her dark humor is relatable

    • @Momdojo
      @Momdojo 20 дней назад +13

      I wish they laughed 😂😂

    • @zeebee6370
      @zeebee6370 19 дней назад +6

      I had a rough traumatic childhood and I can relate to the dark humor. It’s like a coping mechanism.

    • @jclyntoledo
      @jclyntoledo 17 дней назад +5

      I mean it wasn't even that dark but I agree it would have been better if they laughed. I'm guessing they weren't used to it so they just stood quiet.

  • @user-jn5bh6kq8z
    @user-jn5bh6kq8z 20 дней назад +660

    Jess is so likable. Holy cow. Give this girl a platform besides doing crappy social media ads. She deserves a voice on a public platform.

  • @sabrinathomas4072
    @sabrinathomas4072 20 дней назад +622

    I’m 12 min in and crying. Jess is simply built different. The amount of love realness, compassion, vulnerability she brings to reality tv is totally changing the landscape. I resonate so much with her story.

    • @tommysmith2719
      @tommysmith2719 20 дней назад

      @@sabrinathomas4072 Jessica Is fake and a cloud chase

  • @Lilporkiana
    @Lilporkiana 20 дней назад +314

    52:32 NICK i just want to say i'm SO GLAD you, as a man, are calling out Harry's horrible manipulation. You are literally saying my exact thoughts and making ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS 😭♥️ we don't deserve you. This podcast is gold!!! Being that said, I hope Jess open her eyes one day. Just bc you don't wanna hear or aknowledge that someone you love manipulated and used the most sensitive topics and triggers and the most important person in your life to get to you, doesn't mean it's not true. You might "know deep things" about harry, but that doesn't erase what he does to women time and time again.

  • @liveandlove57
    @liveandlove57 20 дней назад +108

    “I don’t have time to coach someone on how to be a good partner to me” 😮‍💨 single mom to single mom, I feel her deeply

    • @jclyntoledo
      @jclyntoledo 17 дней назад

      Woman to woman I feel this too

    • @anastassiyali140
      @anastassiyali140 7 дней назад

      Yet she gave him all the time in the world to play her like a clown lmao

  • @hkittyoleine
    @hkittyoleine 20 дней назад +361

    It’s crazy that her season of Love is Blind wasn’t released when Perfect Match was filmed. No one knew the iconic queen they had in front of them, not even Harry

    • @janiahwashington1609
      @janiahwashington1609 20 дней назад +10

      Omg makes so much sense now!

    • @mqk1697
      @mqk1697 20 дней назад +24

      He would have definitely treated her differently if he saw how she stood on business on the show and if she had the platform she does now.

    • @Sdority905
      @Sdority905 19 дней назад +12

      Wow that's so interesting. I actually just watched Perfect Match and it was after watching Love is Blind. I wonder how I would have felt about her if I had watched it the other way.
      I really loved her on LIB. She is a strong, emotionally mature woman.

    • @THEKRA1999
      @THEKRA1999 19 дней назад +1

      That was shocking tbh

    • @VTheDramaQueen
      @VTheDramaQueen 19 дней назад

      frrrr

  • @yourbravobestie
    @yourbravobestie 20 дней назад +1129

    Nick - Get Jess a podcast on your network stat! It would hit the top of the charts in no time and aligns perfectly with your brand

    • @charlynnhannan1002
      @charlynnhannan1002 20 дней назад +17

      @yourbravobestie I was thinking this too. She is well spoken and very beautiful. She has a story to tell.

    • @yolandahill3374
      @yolandahill3374 20 дней назад +23

      I will literally listen to her every day talking about life. She is so refreshing ❤

    • @TheMelmel18
      @TheMelmel18 20 дней назад +11

      I would listen to this woman speak everyday!!!!!! Get her a mic!!!

    • @missdime7433
      @missdime7433 20 дней назад +5

      She can’t start her own and it will do way more

    • @maereid
      @maereid 20 дней назад +4

      YES

  • @alitaylor1235
    @alitaylor1235 20 дней назад +85

    Jess is proof that men don't really want women who know their worth and that's so sad....

    • @suras8984
      @suras8984 18 дней назад +7

      Lolll Jess doesn't know her worth thats why she went for the biggest player of all time knowing his past. Are you kidding me????

    • @alitaylor1235
      @alitaylor1235 17 дней назад +4

      @@suras8984 Wanting to give someone who is insisting that they want to do better in life and wants to settle down isn't conducive to "not knowing your worth" but hey, if putting her down makes you feel big sunshine, you do you...

    • @suras8984
      @suras8984 12 дней назад +1

      @alitaylor1235 stating that someone doesn't know their worth is not putting them down. She even said she has a bad track record for choosing men which means she doesnt know her worth. And you do not take someone's words as truth if you know their actions to be the opposite. Anyone who is serious about getting married and simultaneously knows their worth would never give Harry a chance especially since all his transgressions are fairly recent. You can't use this weak example as a reason to say that men don't want women who know their worth as if Harry is representative of men or even a decent human.

    • @KalyElizabeth
      @KalyElizabeth 12 дней назад

      Some men.

  • @JessicusMaxiumus
    @JessicusMaxiumus 20 дней назад +90

    How this man manipulated Jess during a vulnerable part of her life was so calculated and cruel, especially the part about him unwilling to take down his disrespectful content about her shows a lot about his character. Jess you have the greatest gift you’ll ever receive in life with your beautiful daughter. Keep your head up high and continue to be the courageous woman you are.

    • @shealsynolasco9225
      @shealsynolasco9225 19 дней назад +2

      What post are they talking about that was disrespectful? I don’t follow him so I don’t know what they were referring to. 🙂

    • @Hiitskatie
      @Hiitskatie 19 дней назад +3

      He did it to Georgia as well :/ really don’t know if he’s learnt or will learn

    • @jenbodhi1133
      @jenbodhi1133 15 дней назад +2

      I think this is why it’s smart of Jess not to say too much about him, Harry is brutal and malicious, if she makes him angry he’ll try to ruin her life and terrorize her like he did to Georgia.
      It’s best to walk away from that guy quietly and stay off his radar

    • @Unknownuser15160
      @Unknownuser15160 4 дня назад +1

      Everything he does is for clout, he doesn’t care about people

  • @ew7554
    @ew7554 20 дней назад +179

    Lmao Natalie saying at the end ”do you wanna hangout” 😂😂😂😂same same

  • @mqk1697
    @mqk1697 20 дней назад +241

    Love hearing Jess speak. She should really consider a podcast, writing a book or creating more chatty content

    • @LinkedInTea
      @LinkedInTea 20 дней назад

      Agreed!

    • @juliahelm9893
      @juliahelm9893 11 дней назад +1

      Interesting how different peoples opinions are. I find her so boring 🤷‍♀️

    • @mqk1697
      @mqk1697 10 дней назад

      @@juliahelm9893 then dont watch her content

    • @juliahelm9893
      @juliahelm9893 10 дней назад

      @@mqk1697 yea, I’m obviously not going to 🤔🤦‍♀️!

    • @berenicelpz7649
      @berenicelpz7649 8 дней назад +1

      @@juliahelm9893because ur not mature as she is😂 shes a really mature person emotionally

  • @makeupwithdrea6617
    @makeupwithdrea6617 20 дней назад +241

    The way I clicked so fast is unhinged. Jess, I misunderstood you in the pods. You are an amazing, and truly a deserving person. I loved this interview.

  • @thatbrianagirl
    @thatbrianagirl 20 дней назад +56

    I feel like Natalie lowkey fell in love with Jess during this episode and her asking her to hang out at the end was so cute haha

  • @EatWell23QWB
    @EatWell23QWB 17 дней назад +27

    Sadly, Jess doesn’t get it. She was absolutely played by Harry. Jess saying that she doesn’t want to believe that Harry manipulated her doesn’t change the fact that he did. Now that Jess has had time to watch back her season of Perfect Match and process what really happened hopefully she can change her thinking about Harry, Because, true healing and real social-emotional growth will not happen for Jess until she can accept and admit that she was wrong about everything that she thought was a great relationship. The fact is that Harry has gotten much better at being a Cad. Hopefully all women watching him will wisen up about how some men can lull them into a false sense of romance bonding.

    • @JVBmuahx
      @JVBmuahx 13 дней назад +3

      yeah she’s being a bit toxic positive about the situation, like girl it’s okay to get mad, call it for what it is and move on with grace.

    • @Unknownuser15160
      @Unknownuser15160 4 дня назад

      I think she‘s emotionally not ready to process it fully yet

  • @lianalopez95
    @lianalopez95 20 дней назад +79

    She’s an amazing woman. Often times, the most beautiful people are the ones who have endured many trials and have come out the other side with resilience, strength, and compassion. All of these things are evident in Jess. May God bless her and her life. May she receive all of the best things in life.

  • @Danceizlief
    @Danceizlief 20 дней назад +180

    I can’t love her more than I already do. Thank you Jessica for making me not feel so alone as a former foster care child 🥹🙏🏽🤍

  • @LadyJly
    @LadyJly 19 дней назад +40

    Wow, Jess is a queen! It's clear she elevates every conversation she has. In contrast, I couldn't even finish Harry's podcast because the discussions felt so immature and shallow. Jess, on the other hand, delivers meaningful, in-depth conversations and truly knows how to connect with people. It's fascinating to witness! Jess deserves nothing but the best!

  • @alannashea6344
    @alannashea6344 20 дней назад +62

    Jess is absolutely built different and I could tell on love in blind. I think God blessed her and she is getting this opportunity so she can share and help others. She needs her own podcast or show! ❤

  • @savanahbbb
    @savanahbbb 20 дней назад +92

    Her story is why you should never judge people, you never know where they come from

  • @shelby6144
    @shelby6144 20 дней назад +135

    I love her. So many people say she’s stuck up and wants a man with money so she’s a gold digger. No, it’s the desire to want what she never had. For her and her daughter. She’s such a strong woman, and obvi beautiful. I have always felt that from her, again she’s such a sweet spirit you can just tell.

    • @Sdority905
      @Sdority905 19 дней назад +3

      Exactly. It is a desire for Security. Literally feeling secure and safe in life. For her, it means a different thing and not like other people who just want to buy fancy things.

  • @nayelimartinez7364
    @nayelimartinez7364 20 дней назад +93

    I think Nick has really good emotional intelligence as well as Jess being very emotionally intelligent. Would love to see more of their work together.

  • @sweetgirly888
    @sweetgirly888 20 дней назад +37

    She is so spiritually protected. God bless people who suffer from a young age and make it out. ❤❤

  • @lef0503
    @lef0503 20 дней назад +46

    Nick reading Harry for filth is my favorite thing I’ve heard this week.

  • @MichealLiam
    @MichealLiam 19 дней назад +582

    I'm 47yrs old. $73,000 biweekly and I'm retired, this video have inspired me greatly in many ways that I remember my past of how I struggled with many things in life to be where I am today!!!!❤️

    • @TelkomTabanan
      @TelkomTabanan 19 дней назад +32

      I'm inspired.
      Please spill some sugar about the biweekly returns, I would be really glad

    • @MichealLiam
      @MichealLiam 19 дней назад +10

      All thanks to Christina Ann Tucker

    • @MichealLiam
      @MichealLiam 19 дней назад +10

      After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.

    • @efourteen
      @efourteen 19 дней назад +4

      Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Christina Ann Tucker.

    • @necromagi
      @necromagi 19 дней назад +5

      I do know Christina A.Tucker, I also have even become successful....

  • @jey7230
    @jey7230 20 дней назад +126

    I love her personality so much. I hope to see her on TV again, she’ll be so good on a lifestyle reality show

    • @tommysmith2719
      @tommysmith2719 20 дней назад +4

      She is fake and a clout chaser

    • @jey7230
      @jey7230 20 дней назад +12

      @@tommysmith2719 she’s probably the least clout chaser of that entire cast. I stand on what I said I love her personality from what I get to see on her socials and the shows

    • @tommysmith2719
      @tommysmith2719 20 дней назад

      @@jey7230 she is too fake and dumb to me

    • @tommysmith2719
      @tommysmith2719 20 дней назад +1

      @@jey7230 jessics is a clout chaser she didn’t tell people have a kid on the first date

    • @TheMelmel18
      @TheMelmel18 20 дней назад

      Ewwww Tommy you’re disgusting. Lol

  • @SchwagerOO7
    @SchwagerOO7 День назад +1

    My mom was the Jessica in our family. She was in the system from 6 months to 18 years old and grew up in 30+ homes. She broke the cycle and I thank god everyday that she didn't succumb to addiction and raised us with so much love. Thank you to all the Jessica's out there who chose happiness and love despite all their adversities

  • @nancyhughes7595
    @nancyhughes7595 20 дней назад +51

    Jess, he played both you and his partner on DWTS. That girl has a heart of gold. I’m sure he was feeding her fake stories just to keep himself relevant and the fans voting for them. You both deserve better.

  • @rebeccaholven956
    @rebeccaholven956 20 дней назад +12

    So appreciative of Jess for sharing her story ❤ It is somehow healing to hear from someone else that suffered from their parent's addiction. I hope the best for her. True gem 💎

  • @user-xv5bs1bt3q
    @user-xv5bs1bt3q 20 дней назад +18

    LOVE that she talked about wanting to do meaningful things with foster kids and people with autoimmune diseases and is genuine about using her platform for that. More people with platforms could learn from her.

  • @zeebee6370
    @zeebee6370 19 дней назад +15

    My gosh her story had be bawling. I just can’t imagine growing up in foster care. She’s truly an amazing resilient woman. I have a feeling she will be okay. She’s so smart and a great mother.

  • @krystalkompelien947
    @krystalkompelien947 15 дней назад +6

    I love that nick tried to explain harry and his manipulative ways to Jessica while also being mindful of her liking to be with people that have experience. Harry is just not that guy. He will say anything and do anything with no remorse. He’s a scary type of guy.

  • @1011jacks
    @1011jacks 20 дней назад +51

    Poor Jess , she’s still giving this dude grace and believed the lies and manipulation! Hearing her past really helps you understand why she picks these unstable narcissists

    • @angesosamx
      @angesosamx 17 дней назад

      Poor ???? SHE IS A WHOLE OLDER WOMAN WITH A CHILD CLOSE TO BE A TEEN … 🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @BeverlyRose330
    @BeverlyRose330 20 дней назад +10

    Jess is such an amazing example of strength and resilience. I continued to be so impressed with her compassion and grace. I wish her so many good things!

  • @angesosamx
    @angesosamx 17 дней назад +14

    ITS ACTUALLY SO SAD AND SCARY HOW SHE JUST DO NOT WANT TO SEE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND THAT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS … like come on you now have a whole child in your care you need you must be careful on who and when to bring ppl in to your life …

  • @KCSunshine-y2g
    @KCSunshine-y2g 20 дней назад +12

    Girl I couldn’t love you more!!!! Hearing you talk about all of this really REALLY resonated with me. Thank you for being so open and sharing your story Jess ❤

  • @katiebarth2896
    @katiebarth2896 19 дней назад +11

    Jess is so well spoken and a class act! Love that she has a platform to make a difference.

  • @ParisFrance68
    @ParisFrance68 19 дней назад +9

    I don’t know if Jess would read this but I honestly found her so mature and insightful during perfect match. She just had this maturity in fights and altercations and I felt like she handled herself with such class.

  • @czevnraye
    @czevnraye 20 дней назад +25

    I have never watched The Bachelorette but I would never miss an episode if Jess was on it!!!

  • @madisongambles-jc2wk
    @madisongambles-jc2wk 19 дней назад +9

    “It will stay with him longer than it will stay with me”- Jess 👏🏽👏🏽absolute bar

  • @destinyhale4550
    @destinyhale4550 20 дней назад +11

    The fact that she is open and vulnerable to love after this is amazing. She’s really done the work as she says. Anyone hating on her is on,y speaking from an unhealed / hurting perspective.

  • @alyssagran2574
    @alyssagran2574 20 дней назад +6

    10 min in and already crying 😭 Jess I relate so hard to some of the things you experienced. My mom was in active addiction most of my childhood/teen years as well and my half sister was in foster care for a long time until my mom finally got clean for good. You are so strong and I admire your vulnerability to share those moments of your life!

  • @yaychloej
    @yaychloej 20 дней назад +6

    She exudes wisdom and grace like no other reality tv star has ever done before. What a beautiful woman inside and out…God’s light really shines through. Love you Jess 💘

  • @selfloveactivist
    @selfloveactivist 18 дней назад +5

    Jess sharing so honestly and vulnerable is soo healsome ! And she’s so right: we can be a strong, eloquent person and reflected and still fall for trauma bonds!

  • @maggienuttall6162
    @maggienuttall6162 19 дней назад +11

    Natalie has such a safe and calming presence. The duo fr

  • @sandymerrell9587
    @sandymerrell9587 20 дней назад +9

    Awesome interview
    You provided such a safe environment to open up

  • @sogrove103
    @sogrove103 20 дней назад +12

    I do agree with Nick that we don’t really know her. But it’s definitely hard to watch the show and not notice that she’s not like everyone else. And I don’t even just mean perfect match I mean reality shows in general. I feel like the only thing real about Perfect Match was Jess and the way she stayed honest and true to herself and what she deserves.

  • @wynterashara5160
    @wynterashara5160 20 дней назад +9

    I relate to everything she said about her mother. And now my Mom passed away from her addictions. Hope was def a worst enemy. And waiting to be chosen by a parent with addiction is heartbreaking. Sending so much love and hoping Jess has a better outcome ❤❤❤❤

  • @Cecalore
    @Cecalore 20 дней назад +9

    9 minutes in and I’m crying ❤️ sending you love Jess.

  • @CarmenOneri
    @CarmenOneri 20 дней назад +2

    Thank you for sharing your story Jess 💗 💗💗this is what sets this podcast apart!! Vulnerable and genuine conversations. Thank you Nick and team for preparing and asking good questions!!

  • @CindyK143
    @CindyK143 19 дней назад +4

    What a powerful interview. So mature of Jess. Thank you for sharing your side and being vulnerable. I'm rooting for you. We all are. ❤

  • @TheLifeofBridget
    @TheLifeofBridget 20 дней назад +84

    I’m an orphan. I completely relate to Jess. I am Team Jess, I just hate the way she attacked Melinda. I’m sure she has grown since then and realizes her mistakes. I hope Jess gets to be The Bachelorette one day!!

    • @embee16
      @embee16 20 дней назад +16

      You call what she did an attack? ..

    • @Karla-pp9li
      @Karla-pp9li 20 дней назад +13

      I would do the same. That wasnt the time and place to tell her. I understand everyone was sharing what happened but as a bigger person u just KNOW stuff like that should be shared privately. Especially if it was THAT bad.

    • @mjenkinsify
      @mjenkinsify 20 дней назад +7

      @@Karla-pp9li
      yeah and I loved Melinda, but after listening to other interviews from castmates melinda was doing too much in general...

    • @Sdority905
      @Sdority905 19 дней назад +9

      I disagree that her conversation with Melinda was an "attack". She was standing firm while being respectful. I think she managed that conversation beautifully and clearly.

    • @shedoesntlikepicture
      @shedoesntlikepicture 19 дней назад +5

      For someone who dislikes Harry so much, Melinda was too loud and lil too desparate to get him to kiss her.....

  • @raeraemillstone
    @raeraemillstone 16 дней назад +6

    Nick you gotta be pretty privileged to act like being a foster child is unique. There are so many of us.. you gotta open up your mind to different kinds of people dude

  • @saraha319
    @saraha319 16 дней назад +6

    Why did we waste an entire chunk of the episode on Harry? Jess is more than that! She is such an amazing woman we could’ve deep dived into her life, her daughter, her goals and her future plans.

  • @Gmgm9966
    @Gmgm9966 20 дней назад +32

    I love Jess but I think she’s still trying to protect Harry till this DAY.. if you truly want change in your life and want to stop repeating cycles she needs to start identifying the villains who never even had her best interest at heart.. admit you were being manipulated and see the real problem moving forward … thats how you break cycles

    • @gabrielleolson4756
      @gabrielleolson4756 20 дней назад +8

      Yeah she seems smart, but the way she’s talking seems like she still thinks he was genuine when he did to her what he does to everyone. That guy is scary x she fell for it all. He said I love you like a week in.

    • @Sdority905
      @Sdority905 19 дней назад

      I think Harry genuinely wanted to love her and thought he did, but he wasn't truly ready to be the right man for her and treat her like she deserves.

    • @Unknownuser15160
      @Unknownuser15160 19 дней назад +1

      I also believe in order to move past it you need to look the situation in the eye and not make the story easier for yourself in your head.. but she will get there one day I‘m sure

    • @Gmgm9966
      @Gmgm9966 19 дней назад

      @@Unknownuser15160 I agree with you 100%

    • @Gmgm9966
      @Gmgm9966 19 дней назад

      @@Sdority905 please…

  • @RaeDee1111
    @RaeDee1111 20 дней назад +8

    She's not ready to accept that Harry manipulated her and that's where she needs to direct her healing. Nick gently and repeatedly tried to get her to see for herself that he is a master manipulator but she would continue to make excuses. Even when she said she "laid into him" that's great but what emotional boundaries did you set? He showed that he had not changed and you gave him multiple chances.

    • @isamalfoy8120
      @isamalfoy8120 19 дней назад +2

      exactly what i thought! she's still in denial and sort of defending him in an attempt to make herself look less "naive" i guess?

    • @RaeDee1111
      @RaeDee1111 19 дней назад +1

      @@isamalfoy8120 that is what I believe she is doing. It is ego at work. I always felt like she comes off as a martyr she's in this position bc "her heart is too good" or "she believes in the best of people," etc. and not bc she makes bad decisions. I don't say this to bash her. It's just the truth. The reality is she moved way too fast and chose not to set a boundary when he showed his flags. How long were they together on the show? A month if that? Once she found out he lied, that should have been it bc he has a documented track record. Why would you give someone a second chance and you haven't even been together that long? Not all of us have the benefit of video evidence. She has to learn to listen to her intuition and stick with it.

  • @lizbethrodriguezXO
    @lizbethrodriguezXO 20 дней назад +6

    I am obsessed with this beauty! Talk about being a total beauty both inside and out. I love how good she is with words. ❤❤❤ I would love for Jess to start her own podcast.

  • @jenniferjohnson8107
    @jenniferjohnson8107 20 дней назад +3

    Me crying ten minutes into this interview😭 Jess’s past is so so so heartbreaking and I’m proud of her for sharing her story with the world

  • @Marreization
    @Marreization 19 дней назад +2

    I absolutely love this episode... I'm not even 10min in and I'm already so moved and inspired...Jess is an absolute gem who deserves the world🥺

  • @CC12203
    @CC12203 20 дней назад +6

    I really loved this episode!!! 😍

  • @Paraprofessional-lounge
    @Paraprofessional-lounge 20 дней назад +26

    Yes, we often have a tendency to romanticize things, even if they may be toxic or unhealthy. Our brains naturally seek to make sense of things, and once we create a context or narrative around something, it can provide a sense of relief and comfort. This is why getting back together with someone can give our brain that context, even if it may not be the best decision for our well-being. As a trauma mentor, I understand the desire for a happy ending, regardless of whether the person involved may be considered a "bad guy" or not. We all crave that sense of closure and happiness in our lives.

  • @jessicakolbe8613
    @jessicakolbe8613 19 дней назад +3

    Wow, Jessica has a truly inspiring story and an incredibly beautiful soul. I knew she was different than other people on those shows and she carries herself so well. She deserves a platform.

  • @KCresp0
    @KCresp0 20 дней назад +12

    Why am I crying before Jess even started crying 😭

  • @arigold218
    @arigold218 20 дней назад +10

    So happy Jess found a family in the end that was a good family!!
    Not all of us from the system have that because it’s seriously so corrupt.
    I ended up with a family who should have never been able to adopt me and my brother. They shouldn’t have been allowed to adopt a dog. They had a lot of money and it was all they cared about. He was a funeral director who moved me to a new state bought a funeral home, made a commercial about our “adoption story” and when I started school everyone knew me as that adopted kid.
    He manipulated me with money because I never had it growing up until finally I left them at 17 and never turned back.
    I’m now just out here with no parents at all.
    The system fails us kids that need a family and place us with people who aren’t really looking out for us because unfortunately they don’t have the space for all the kids so they just try to place kids wherever they can.
    Again so so happy for Jess, I feel more connected to her now. I always kinda saw myself in her, and now I see it makes sense.

    • @bethanymontgomery3965
      @bethanymontgomery3965 20 дней назад +2

      So sorry you went through that. Every child deserves to be loved. I hate that so many kids go through this with the system.

  • @AmyTalksOfficial
    @AmyTalksOfficial 20 дней назад +4

    I really like Jess after this! She is super relatable. I’m so happy to see her grow from her hard childhood and become a great mom❤ also, yay for Crohns awareness!

  • @lgrant1313131
    @lgrant1313131 20 дней назад +9

    Jess is a real one and a National treasure and we need to protect her at all cost!!!!

  • @ItsDoctaD
    @ItsDoctaD 19 дней назад +2

    Watched this entire interview from start to finish… Jess is just amazing. Could never have enough good words about the character displayed to us as an audience

  • @rachelrutledge40
    @rachelrutledge40 20 дней назад +1

    She is amazing! So genuine and so compassionate to people who have done her wrong. We need more people like her in the world.

  • @Freee479
    @Freee479 20 дней назад +1

    Love love Jess! Just added this to my watchlist! Can’t wait to watch this once I’m off work💃💃

  • @bridgettt3885
    @bridgettt3885 20 дней назад +8

    36 minutes in…. Jess you’re literally describing every narcissist 🚩🚩🚩

  • @michelelynn5698
    @michelelynn5698 20 дней назад +11

    Therapy and Exploring Attachment wounds. That is where a lot of the cycles can be understood. I am a trauma therapist and work deeply in Attachment theory. It is huge. It's our foundation and where we learn our CORE beliefs, values, fears, etc. It's the lenses we view our experiences through.

    • @spiritofcoco
      @spiritofcoco 4 дня назад +1

      Interesting… which methods are you using to treat trauma and attachment wounds?

    • @michelelynn5698
      @michelelynn5698 День назад

      @@spiritofcoco I am EMDR trained, so I do a lot with EMDR work. However, I do Attachment Style quizzes and psychoeducation about Attachment and the styles. I also do Attachment History gathering regarding primary caregivers in childhood, etc. There are a lot of different resources, etc. I'll use but those are some of the main applications.

  • @lorenadrian9494
    @lorenadrian9494 13 дней назад +3

    She has a bad side to herself too: she was really horrible to Miranda and that interview footage of how she reacted to Tolu answering a question? She comes across so self aware but fails to treat women who get in her way of attention from either the media or men with the same respect she gives the most disgusting men.

    • @JVBmuahx
      @JVBmuahx 13 дней назад

      i’m still watching… did she not bring up the tolu and miranda stuff? so disappointing. she might be a strong eloquent and smart women but i can’t say she’s a girl girl at all.

    • @lorenadrian9494
      @lorenadrian9494 13 дней назад

      @@JVBmuahx She is eloquent for sure and and an effective communicator when things go her way, have to give her that! CRAZY thing is that she only apologized to Tolu after people noticed what she was doing. She is self aware and righteous until things dont go her way - goes back to LIB too, did she not meet up with a former cast mate after jimmy and chelseas engagement laughing about how she'd still have him etc? Until she becomes truly humble and genuine she will always be skipped, regardless of how she comes across and looks.

  • @amandazamora9662
    @amandazamora9662 20 дней назад +2

    Jess is such an incredible woman and Im so glad she got the opportunity to speak about all of it here. Shes just the best 💞

  • @KCresp0
    @KCresp0 20 дней назад +2

    Such a great episode! I can listen to Jess talk all day! ❤

  • @isamalfoy8120
    @isamalfoy8120 19 дней назад +9

    i can't help but be really bothered by some of the things she said. like when she said she's never gonna be like one of his past relationships and clout chase and get into a social media war with him - it's not like francesca or georgia wanted to have a social media war with him. harry was going around on podcasts calling them all sorts of horrible things and sending hate their way. i just feel like jess has a tendency to think that she really is more mature and sort of superior to other women at times. and this was evident with the way she spoke to melinda in perfect match and tolu in that one interview.

  • @CDJ831
    @CDJ831 20 дней назад +45

    Out of any reality contestants out there she truly comes off very genuine. A very stand up woman and I enjoy watching her on my screen,

    • @ohgeez4354
      @ohgeez4354 20 дней назад +3

      she made it real clear on perfect matches shes materialistic and only dates rich men that can provide more for her. VERY GENUINE LOL

    • @CDJ831
      @CDJ831 20 дней назад +6

      She’s honest about it. How is that not genuine? Are you only genuine if you date poor men? Read the definition of genuine

    • @ohgeez4354
      @ohgeez4354 20 дней назад

      @@CDJ831 because she contradicts those statements in the same show and on Love is blind. that's why it's not genuine
      and on interview she just garners sympathy. she says whatever is convenient at the moment. go look at her other interviews

    • @CDJ831
      @CDJ831 20 дней назад

      Nah I’m not as obsessed as you clearly seem to be of her to look up her other interviews.

  • @lauracollins4268
    @lauracollins4268 20 дней назад +1

    This episode was not as expected when I clicked and surprisingly so wonderful. 😢 ❤

  • @Lilporkiana
    @Lilporkiana 20 дней назад +17

    1:14:21 girl so you're saying you believe all this "I wanna make lunch for autumn with you" stuff, saying you think he meant it, but you know he's not showing up when he has the opportunity to actually be there and walk the talk... ok😒
    Also, if you don't know why he had you there: you're super pretty, your love is blind debut was coming, he knew you were gonna be the new 'it girl' like francesca, like... wym? Sex? Be the guy who always gets the girl he wants? Be forreal, you said it yourself: He is extremely inteligent. I don't like him, but I agree. He is outsmarting you & I wish you clarity soon! ♥️

    • @jessicaa7174
      @jessicaa7174 20 дней назад +6

      💯 just like with Georgia she was the girl everyone wanted on THTH and she won perfect match Jess is pretty but not like Francesca and Georgia that everyone runs after the dream girls with no baggage

  • @marym12522
    @marym12522 20 дней назад +6

    Oh Nick...worst interviewee ever. So so sorry for you. You tried asking her for specifics one Million Times! She is in massive denial about how poorly she was treated. She needs an hour w Hannah Berner, moderated by you. Thia girl needs to GROW UP and accept that he treated her like dirt. Call it what it is please, Nick! This is crystal clear to everyone but Jess😮 She sounds like an eighth grader who can't find the words....

  • @Paraprofessional-lounge
    @Paraprofessional-lounge 20 дней назад +5

    I love this conversation and as a trauma mentor we misunderstand trauma often it doesn't have to be some big T trauma it's any experience that we internalize that feels unsafe to our psyche and physiology. Especially when we don't have that attunement from a caregiver. These shows like love is blind is triggering someone's trauma they should have a trauma mentor for supporting the wounds that are being opened. Some people are not as self aware as you Jess. And I can relate to wanting my mom to choose me I was emancipated at 13. You are beautiful inside and outside. Trauma healing is ongoing. 🩷

  • @JennSkywalker.
    @JennSkywalker. 20 дней назад +1

    So excited for this

  • @chrissyg9576
    @chrissyg9576 20 дней назад +2

    Great interview Natalie and Nick!!! Jess is a gem and truly a lovely person!!!

  • @kaslayton
    @kaslayton 20 дней назад +4

    I think a lot of people that label horrible ex’s as narcissists are actually getting it wrong when a lot of them are actually sociopaths. Saying someone is chasing clout and just self absorbed is really diminishing just how damaging these individuals are to the average compassionate person whose emotions are just play things to them.

  • @ChannelingChelsea
    @ChannelingChelsea 20 дней назад +12

    Came within 30 seconds of me getting the notification 🔔

  • @alexandernavarro6542
    @alexandernavarro6542 20 дней назад +3

    I love Jess! Been following her since LIB and I really admire the way she carries herself and relates with people.

  • @sofiaferreira5921
    @sofiaferreira5921 18 дней назад +1

    OMG, so well spoken, the best of them all

  • @demismith5479
    @demismith5479 13 дней назад +2

    She is so soft and sweet and just wants to be loved, thats what she deserves! I hope she finds that and I know Autumn us proud her mama is this wonderful of a person

  • @hoopsaremylife123
    @hoopsaremylife123 18 дней назад +10

    It was honestly super cool that despite nick’s poking and prodding, Jess refused to use this platform to trash talk. Really respect that, and while I can’t ever know her personally (to nick’s point), I do find it personally helpful to see examples of such maturity!

  • @annaperkins5818
    @annaperkins5818 17 дней назад

    She is so easy to listen to and it is such a pleasure for me because to hear someone speak with self reflection, genuine intentions, compassion for others, who takes ownership and accountability as that foundational approach to discuss lifes challenges- is the most relatable person that I have found. I have had the unpleasure encounter of dating someone that I wanted to believe their intentions and character but actions showed me otherwise, and the strength it takes to leave when you feel trauma bonded, is very underrated. It was a hard reality to break in my thoughts and in my heart that there really are maliciously intended individuals hiding behind kind eyes and likeable personalities. It took me 6 years to come to reality, and so I know her strength and the value she rightfully places on herself.

  • @AsteraVale
    @AsteraVale 16 дней назад +3

    I'm realizing that a few other girls are being disrespected and that the guys are putting the girls on their social media accounts without their permission. That's so fucking weird of them. Especially when the final episodes were being put out.

  • @Paraprofessional-lounge
    @Paraprofessional-lounge 20 дней назад +22

    A significant number of people, particularly women, have Crohn's disease and autoimmune diseases that are associated with early childhood trauma. I'm not sure if you are aware of this or if you have studied it, but there is substantial research that provides evidence linking autoimmune diseases to early childhood trauma. Specifically, these diseases often manifest in the stomach and gut region because our gut is often referred to as our second brain. It is crucial for our digestion and overall well-being to be in a state of rest and restoration when processing food. However, for many of us who experience constant stress or hypervigilance, this can contribute to the development of autoimmune diseases. I appreciate you shedding light on this topic!

    • @Jess-kl3uy
      @Jess-kl3uy 20 дней назад +2

      Yes, ACE! Adverse Childhood Experience. Many of us have above a 4.

    • @thatbossybeaver
      @thatbossybeaver 18 дней назад +2

      I learned this recently and it’s so interesting. Ive recently been diagnosed with celiac and have always had bad gut related issues growing up and could never figure out why..

  • @houman7784
    @houman7784 20 дней назад +4

    What a class act - wish her all the best. I’m confident she will find her person and have her happy ending ❤

  • @alakazam3270
    @alakazam3270 18 дней назад +2

    Her dark humor with “I guess he decided “I’m gonna leave the chat’”. Jessica never change!

  • @divinealignment1733
    @divinealignment1733 20 дней назад +4

    Jess is a A class human. The way she speaks about her relationship with Harry is outstanding.

  • @MariaGarcia-gj1ni
    @MariaGarcia-gj1ni 13 дней назад +2

    The way she is describing this guy I feel that he is narcissistic.

  • @thehaleybrook
    @thehaleybrook 20 дней назад +9

    Oh my god, my heart. I want to give her a massive hug. Her heart is so beautiful and pure. So proud of her, bc I cannot imagine how much pain she has.

  • @9crimes87
    @9crimes87 15 дней назад +3

    I like Jess but her calling Harry "brilliant" is just so cringe still

  • @heatherc.5760
    @heatherc.5760 20 дней назад +5

    She needs to be in film i see so much here n this woman is just amazing n i feel she belongs in things bigger than reality tv especially the trauma that comes off these shows today. She is deserving of more. Gut feeling tells me its tv n movies.