Why Is The U.S. Government So Afraid Of TikTok?

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  • Recently President Joe Biden signed a law that will ban the Chinese-owned short form video app TikTok. He claims the app represents a national security risk. Can a social media app really be a national security threat? And what about the first amendment?
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  • @theresabrown8750
    @theresabrown8750 29 дней назад +101

    Heck we get hacked by our own banks and they open up credit accounts in our name too😢😢😢

    • @williamyellow1337
      @williamyellow1337 29 дней назад

      Tiktok aint no match for a salty Baby Mama who gonna ruin ur credit and reputation irreplaceably. Anyway I never heard of anyone info got spilled via Tiktok, I heard all about those got scammed thru Facebook/Meta all the time!

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 27 дней назад

      Idk if you think of another story than me but at least in the ones I know they didn't hack, they just used their tools without asking the customers

    • @cedricdellafaille1361
      @cedricdellafaille1361 26 дней назад

      lets say the hacker would try to steal your money and not your life like in tiktok. tiktok collects also all the information of all the devices in order to hack your cheap elektric tools on your wifi to breach a critical plant such as a nuclear plant to shut it down and commit a meltdown

  • @DethWench
    @DethWench 28 дней назад +31

    I wish our US social media was regulated! This topic is a distraction. Domestic companies are mishandling our data now!

  • @brunol.8608
    @brunol.8608 28 дней назад +62

    I'm really disappointed in the poor analysis and critical thinking here. As some top-voted comments have indicated, the CCP has absolute authority in China to request data and other cooperation from Chinese companies. Independent of whether data is formally stored in Oracle data warehouses in the US, it's stupidly easy to reroute data through a plethora of other means before it makes it to the database (i.e. redundant API calls/aggregations done in the service layer when users are actively making calls).
    WSM, I urge you to please stick to economic and financial analysis. This is awful. It is not about political leanings, and while I'm sure the Israeli lobby would benefit from it, the bottom line is that no respectable security engineer I've worked with trusts TikTok, Temu, or any other CCP application. The US government is already spy-hungry enough, but even they have an order of magnitude more checks than the CCP.

    • @papabear90
      @papabear90 28 дней назад

      It's a 2 way Street which will set a predlcedent. Why will the rest of the world trust any US app?

    • @LoOP-oi4qm
      @LoOP-oi4qm 28 дней назад

      Damn right yall! doesn't matter how bad US government the Chinese is always worse that's for sure

    • @lfc1981
      @lfc1981 28 дней назад

      as if USA govt is not spying on anyone. they even spy on own allies! hello. read world news, from multiple sources not just your CNN news.

    • @xyzmediaandentertainment8313
      @xyzmediaandentertainment8313 28 дней назад +1

      Don't forget. Wall Street millineal is of asian descent. He's biased

    • @snuglife3697
      @snuglife3697 28 дней назад +2

      The descent doesn't matter. Ultimately what matters is the commitment to being informative. This is so slanted and skips over so much info that it's beyond biased.
      The comments supporting the vid are also incredibly loony and conspiratorial (far more than mere suspicion that the CCP might take data from bytedance)

  • @nikkjcrespo
    @nikkjcrespo 28 дней назад +6

    the second you said "world economic forum" it all made sense

  • @jamesc5751
    @jamesc5751 28 дней назад +22

    Meta "we dont sell your data but we give it to 'developers' in exchange for money" is the one that sold my phone number out to all the Indian robocallers. Are we going to ban Meta?

  • @XC-Z-cv8qw
    @XC-Z-cv8qw 29 дней назад +98

    Dunno why everyone keeps saying the government wants to ban Tiktok, when in fact they want to own Tiktok for themselves

    • @cenzoredworld
      @cenzoredworld 28 дней назад +4

      Steve Mnuchin is salivating right now

    • @LizardSpork
      @LizardSpork 28 дней назад

      The US government doesn't own Microsoft or Amazon - the most likely buyers. And despite what conspiracy theorists say, they don't "control" them either. If the US government orders those companies to turn over their user data, there would be lawsuits and public outcry. That's the difference between China and the west, free press and independent courts are a thing here. Whereas in China, public figures like Jack Ma just disappears for 6months after criticizing the government.

    • @n0namenate
      @n0namenate 28 дней назад

      yea it seems that tic tok is going to win the legal battle though

    • @SpaceCowboy02
      @SpaceCowboy02 28 дней назад +6

      Not only own it. Control what you see like how they do with mainstream news networks

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat 18 дней назад

      They don't want to own TikTok, they just don't want a US adversary to own TikTok. The bill clearly allows for non-US firms to buy TikTok.

  • @endersgameover
    @endersgameover 27 дней назад +21

    The Chinese government has lobbied too hard to prevent the sale of a supposedly Singaporean company.
    I agree it doesn’t seem like an imminent threat, but the direct intervention by the literal ambassador to the US convinced me it’s the right move.
    They close their market to almost everything anyway. Reciprocation on this front should have started frankly a decade ago.

    • @MoeFokah
      @MoeFokah 19 дней назад +1

      That last part. Although this eye for an eye approach is a precarious slippery slope.

    • @yashpatel261
      @yashpatel261 16 дней назад

      Well said

  • @user-fj3it6qp1l
    @user-fj3it6qp1l 28 дней назад +52

    And no one says a damn that facebook and youtube has been banned in China for a long time.

    • @larzkruber822
      @larzkruber822 28 дней назад +7

      and tiktok

    • @xyzmediaandentertainment8313
      @xyzmediaandentertainment8313 28 дней назад +4

      Senator I'm from Singapore 😂

    • @789know
      @789know 28 дней назад

      Lol i think they should have force youtube and facebook to sold like 50% share to Chinese company instead in exchange for access to Chinese market.

    • @snuglife3697
      @snuglife3697 28 дней назад +1

      ​@789know that's fine, FB just wouldn't operate in China. Oh, they're already doing that 🤔

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 27 дней назад

      Do you want China like censorship?

  • @AndrewDibb-ro3uz
    @AndrewDibb-ro3uz 28 дней назад +59

    maybe the question should be: Why is WSM so uncritical and wilfully naive in his coverage of this story?

    • @duancoviero9759
      @duancoviero9759 28 дней назад +15

      He is not, unlike you he doesn't just accept the narrative the government presents as fact.

    • @AndrewDibb-ro3uz
      @AndrewDibb-ro3uz 28 дней назад +5

      @@duancoviero9759 did not actually say that, did I? Unlike you I like to be exposed to all opinions and not just be told what to think

    • @lonyo5377
      @lonyo5377 28 дней назад

      Clearly being paid by the Chinese government! The only answer that makes sense

    • @nr12345
      @nr12345 28 дней назад

      The problem isn't that the chinese government cant get full access to all tiktok data at any time, the issue is that the USA isn't China and because its not China you still have to actually apply the law even in situations like this where its pretty damn obvious the CCP got their fingers in the tiktok pie yet if you cant provide actual evidence other than just "you know it" then in a country like the USA you will not get anywhere in courts.

    • @Joey_Dasher
      @Joey_Dasher 28 дней назад +6

      you might have noticed he's never critical of China

  • @somethingsomethingsomethingdar
    @somethingsomethingsomethingdar 29 дней назад +52

    People fail to realize that a company based out of China is equal to the Chinese government. There is no separation. It’s the same with Hwaiweh and every other major technology company from China.
    The same argument be made for America? absolutely. Hence why it should be illegal for any company in the United States or otherwise to collect personal information on any of its users. A company should not be able to force you to accept terms and conditions that would allow them to collect such data unless this data is integral to being able to provide their service.

    • @Tempestelterna
      @Tempestelterna 29 дней назад +2

      💯

    • @zachrome91
      @zachrome91 29 дней назад +1

      Correct.
      But difference is for Tik Tok US, the Chinese cannot easily obtain US data as it is physically stored in the US with all 3 letter agencies monitoring its use.
      I’m access YT from Tanzania but data is likely stored in a U.S. server which means my government would have a hard time obtaining it.
      What makes TikTok US valuable is not so much the data, but the algorithm by which recommendations are made which Meta and X are dying to get their hands on.

    • @somethingsomethingsomethingdar
      @somethingsomethingsomethingdar 29 дней назад +3

      @@zachrome91 Dude there is nothing special about Tik Toks algorithms.

    • @danielc9967
      @danielc9967 29 дней назад +4

      @@zachrome91 lol you have no idea how data and networking work do you? Data can be saved on servers in the US but ultimately Tik Tok’s Parent company still has access to that data, this was in fact the case, with some bytedance employees having direct access to all data

    • @raymondyu7933
      @raymondyu7933 29 дней назад +1

      Not True. Beijing Government only care about the industry leader of any given industry. I am afraid that American Government basically doing the same thing as Beijing Government, but obviously Beijing Government has way weight too much beyond its capacity.

  • @xiphoid2011
    @xiphoid2011 29 дней назад +28

    I'm a chinese student who immigrated to the US. I'm pretty sure that the US government has a legitimate concern. Every chinese know chinese media is under the control of the central propaganda ministry (中央宣传部). Since Xi took power, the control only tightened. Now all chinese companies with more than 50 employees must have a political officer/commissar that "facilitate" the cooperation with the government. Of course, there are the millions strong 50 cent army of secret government agents that post online pretending to be regular users in an constant propaganda campaign. ByteDance has to do what the government says, this is why DouYin in china is nothing like TikTok, because there is no talking back or fighting the government instruction in court like in the US. Hosting the user data on a US server, like Oracle, doesn't really prevent foreign influence campaign or use to sow discord or confusion during time of war. I think a forced divestment of US TikTok would be prudent. TikTok doesn't have to sell all of itself. US can and should make TikTok sell the US portion of it.

    • @Anfieldwizard1989
      @Anfieldwizard1989 29 дней назад +8

      Thank you for being a voice of reason and your candid comment without bias.

    • @gund89123
      @gund89123 28 дней назад

      Thank you 🙏

    • @hansonlee5847
      @hansonlee5847 28 дней назад

      God bless. Hope you and your family stay safe from the Wu Mao

  • @RichardKing-sx6xc
    @RichardKing-sx6xc 29 дней назад +110

    Biden is literally still on TIK TOK!!! 😅😆🤣😂

    • @staminadaddy
      @staminadaddy 29 дней назад

      His marketing team

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 29 дней назад +4

      So?

    • @RichardKing-sx6xc
      @RichardKing-sx6xc 29 дней назад +8

      @@samsonsoturian6013 smoth brains

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад +13

      Biden: It’s a security threat! But not for me…

    • @palillo2006
      @palillo2006 29 дней назад +6

      Trump just said he is against it and the ban would be on Biden. 😂

  • @samuelappiah8395
    @samuelappiah8395 28 дней назад +45

    Why is this video not outlining that the algorithm is partially influenced by the CCP government. There is a government official literally on their board and in addition, Jason Calicanis did an experiment to text how their algorithm is controlled with 4 different topics and it indeed turned out to restrict certain topics

    • @blacksuite1
      @blacksuite1 27 дней назад +11

      US social media does the same thing.

    • @samuelappiah8395
      @samuelappiah8395 27 дней назад +13

      @@blacksuite1 okay and? There’s a difference between a foreign controlled app having that much influence and US social media companies. None is good but it’s better for the nation
      And the ban should be done out of just reciprocity. All US social medias are banned in China why not the same

    • @shakingwater
      @shakingwater 27 дней назад

      ​@@samuelappiah8395because the us is not a communist authoritarian government. If the us bans apps and censor information then it no longer claim it has more free speech than China. You lose all moral authority once you do the exact same thing you attack someone else for doing.
      Its like calling a girl a slut for sleeping with a bunch of dudes and then you doing the same thing by hooking up with a bunch of chicks. But claim you're not a slut.

    • @snuglife3697
      @snuglife3697 27 дней назад

      @samuelappiah8395 you're right on these points but that doesn't mean the U.S. should be like China and ban the app.
      What WSM tried to hide is that the U.S. isn't doing that and is letting TikTok simply change ownership! (And Bytedance would rather delete the company than sell it for money and let anyone see what they've been up to).

    • @crescentprincekronos2518
      @crescentprincekronos2518 27 дней назад

      ​@@samuelappiah8395 the difference is, one government is a virtue signaling criminal cabal, the other is on the other side of the world. Clear and present danger is the US guberment.

  • @peekaboo1575
    @peekaboo1575 29 дней назад +109

    "Why Is The U.S. Government So Afraid Of TikTok?"
    Power and control.

    • @KaiserShield
      @KaiserShield 29 дней назад

      It’s pro Palestine is why.

    • @Anfieldwizard1989
      @Anfieldwizard1989 29 дней назад

      Power and control of a totalitarian regime*

    • @CurrentlyVictor
      @CurrentlyVictor 28 дней назад +3

      simple.

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat 18 дней назад

      This isn't about controlling what Americans see, it's about not allowing the Chinese Communist Party to have control over what Americans see.

  • @janakakumara3836
    @janakakumara3836 28 дней назад +30

    300000 residents of Montana use Ticktock? So everyone in Montana?

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 28 дней назад

      @@Brayness Do you think the entire population of the United States lives in Montana?

    • @Brayness
      @Brayness 28 дней назад +5

      @@hiimjustin8826 I promise the United States population is at least a little bit higher than 300k

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 28 дней назад

      @@Brayness "300000 residents of Montana use Ticktock? So everyone in Montana?"
      Okay then Idk just re-read this until you understand it.

    • @Brayness
      @Brayness 28 дней назад

      Montana population is over 1.1 million and the proposed ban deprives the rights of even the citizens that do not currently us Tik Tok

    • @xres74
      @xres74 28 дней назад

      Man you know they got nothing else to do up there. 😂

  • @mistahdata
    @mistahdata 29 дней назад +30

    1. TikTok spied on (Forbes) journalists. 2. The Guardian later reported that TT admitted to the spying. 3. A whistleblower in the engineering dept of TT claimed that the CCP maintained "a special office or unit" on US premises inside the company. 4. The engineer also claimed that there's a "backdoor channel in the code" allowing for user data exfiltration. 5. Security researchers found that "when TikTok users enter a website through a link on the app, TikTok inserts code that can monitor much of their activity on those outside websites, including their keystrokes and whatever they tap".
    How much "precedent" does Wall Street Millennial need, and why is he not reporting about that part ?

    • @Anfieldwizard1989
      @Anfieldwizard1989 29 дней назад +11

      A lot of outrage is just focusing on equating TikTok data grab with that of other companies and totally missing the point.
      This channel belongs in the same category

    • @hillbilly4895
      @hillbilly4895 29 дней назад +1

      Canadians are more compromised by CCP than US and EU.
      This channel lives in CN.
      Now you know.

    • @cncfan
      @cncfan 29 дней назад +12

      I wouldn’t be surprised if TikTok is paying content creators to spread positive messages regarding the app. This video included.

    • @scrublordgamer9636
      @scrublordgamer9636 29 дней назад +6

      thanks for informing me about this topic more than the video did :)

    • @michealophigoid6215
      @michealophigoid6215 29 дней назад

      Everything has s back door,it's information control ,hard to convince people of the lies and narrative with tic to,Israel runs the usa

  • @bushm8797
    @bushm8797 28 дней назад +4

    Wow this video isn’t balanced or neutral. You even went as far as expressing a personal opinion/judgement when you mentioned that article.

    • @ComradeYinkai
      @ComradeYinkai 28 дней назад

      What WSM said was factually correct. The Guardian author provides a single anecdote to substantiate a wild claim. Based WSM!

    • @bushm8797
      @bushm8797 28 дней назад

      @@ComradeYinkai elaborate...

    • @adsfjkasfads
      @adsfjkasfads 25 дней назад

      ​@bushm8797 do you really need more elaboration? You're gonna make the CCP pawn use the rest of his 6 brains cells?

  • @oranjelicht
    @oranjelicht 28 дней назад +4

    Those tiktok influencers he invited will be unemployed thanks to him 😂😂😂

    • @bryanthompson1
      @bryanthompson1 27 дней назад

      Or they'll just move to RUclips or Instagram or tiktok if it's bought by a non Chinese company.

    • @okene
      @okene 16 дней назад

      ​@@bryanthompson11. It's hard to grow a fanbase 2. Not all tiktok content transfers well. Tiktok has its own subculture.
      Many of them will be unemployed

  • @andrewdubose9968
    @andrewdubose9968 28 дней назад +3

    Elon: buy it, rebrand it to bring back Vine

  • @Anfieldwizard1989
    @Anfieldwizard1989 29 дней назад +75

    Simple answer - Since 2017 there's a law in effect in China which makes it mandatory for all organizations and citizens to participate in intelligence operations when asked to. It is illegal not to comply.
    Apple can (and has) fight FBI in a court if they want keys to a particular device or if they want to put a backdoor in iMessage.
    That isn't an option for someone working at TikTok (no matter how nice or well intentioned). If they are ordered to alter the algorithm to promote antivax conspiracies or election hoaxes in a particular region of a country they have no recourse, no whistle blower protection, no congressional hearings to go to or advocate for, no option to fight the govt in court. None. Nada, Zero.
    In a regime with little due process, no checks and balances it is moot to debate whether PRC gives such orders or not.
    At least Russians have to create twitter and youtube bot farms, having direct control over data and algorithm by a totalitarian regime is a different ballgame.
    This app should have been forced to sell or banned years ago.

    • @stralerman
      @stralerman 29 дней назад

      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад

      You’re naive if you think Apple is a champion for your data. They’re selling and providing it quite readily. You think that one public display of defiance proved they are vigilantly protecting you?

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад +7

      I swear, any threads that are similar to this get censored.

    • @stompgrounds
      @stompgrounds 29 дней назад +14

      Everyone who advocates against a TikTok ban completely ignores this.
      Our political system may not be perfect but the fact that we would allow a foreign adversary to directly meddle in our civil discourse or worse is insane.
      Especially when they have a goal to reduce the US’s global influence. Which would in turn affect our economy and everyone who participates in it.

    • @Wcnmb1314
      @Wcnmb1314 29 дней назад

      Why now then? It’s been so long and there were so many opportunities, like they almost did it. They just found out they can’t control people’s opinions because of these non-mainstream media, and they are scared, just like dictators anywhere would

  • @kk22001
    @kk22001 28 дней назад +12

    Tik tok is so smart that they used american amendments against the americans. LOL

  • @snuglife3697
    @snuglife3697 28 дней назад +8

    So many blind spots and jumping to conclusions in this vid sticking to ByteDance propaganda. Wall Street Millennial is super sus, gonna have to side eye from now on :/

    • @TheSnugglery
      @TheSnugglery 28 дней назад +2

      Right to be sus, I left a very benign comment alluding to the fact that tik tok does favor some content over others and it got insta taken down 😳

    • @snuglife3697
      @snuglife3697 28 дней назад

      🤯

  • @ericoanthony779
    @ericoanthony779 20 дней назад +2

    I mean I always sensed the channel was left leaning but didn’t think it would get this the point where you are willfully ignoring common knowledge and cherry picking articles to suit your narrative
    Didn’t see you bring up once that all American media is ban in china for the exact same reason America is trying to ban TikTok, so they can ban all American media but America can’t ban just one? Cool
    You also didn’t bring up that asides the regular information you have to provide you failed to mention that TikTok can monitor your location and see into your contacts, really surprised how you missed that one too
    The video just feels biased, cherry picked and obviously making a strawman of the opposing viewpoint and you can see this sentiment reflected in the comments
    I know you are left leaning but please try to be more balanced, we need more balanced coverage and media but this
    Thanks

  • @ForcefighterX2
    @ForcefighterX2 28 дней назад +9

    "The US politicians hate on TikTok is hard to understand"!? Most certainly not. The US government has deep influence over any US media corporation and regularly influences their news report ingrown. Be it via the FBI or via Google or Facebook directly - those corporations always do the US budding. However, TikTok does not.

  • @Rizhiy13
    @Rizhiy13 27 дней назад +1

    TBH, it shouldn't be that difficult to show that certain topics are downgraded by the algorithm.

  • @DeMenteMinds
    @DeMenteMinds 29 дней назад +32

    The collection of data is half the picture. You shouldn’t focus too much on just that piece without considering the other half, which is the ability to use that data to influence an audience through the same medium in which the data is collected. More than half of this video was based on an incomplete argument. Sure, the brokers may have a lot of data on US citizens, but they are unable to use data without a platform. Also, the US government is not opposed to TikTok as the notion of a social media platform, it is opposed to China’s ability to use any company under its jurisdiction to do whatever the hell it wants. You can’t label this as paranoia or alarmism, it is basic game theory. If your opponent has the ability to screw you up, it will. It is human nature, to deny this simple fact it is to be very naïve, which is what I think this video is, very naïve.
    That's why the US government is still on Tik Tok, because it's not opposed to social media, it's opposed to the risk of having a foreign country stir the minds of their population.

    • @djgodigod
      @djgodigod 29 дней назад

      Yup. Every company in China is an agent of the CCP first. Profit comes second.
      Also, China has banned every single US company from operating in China. This is just part of an ongoing trade war.

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat 18 дней назад

      Well said. This is a major piece of the puzzle many people are missing, and imo, is what makes TikTok such a huge threat to US national security.

  • @jsimsgt96
    @jsimsgt96 28 дней назад +9

    Brought to you by the ccp lol

  • @xiaoka
    @xiaoka 28 дней назад +9

    Your review of what data TikTok collects is superficial and missing quite a lot. The app can download your contacts and tracks your location over time. That means they know where you live, where you work, who you talk to, etc etc.

  • @garfinity6998
    @garfinity6998 29 дней назад +27

    I feel like this video was a bit too biased.

    • @SlagNasty
      @SlagNasty 29 дней назад +11

      He has been slipping last few imo.

    • @garfinity6998
      @garfinity6998 29 дней назад +10

      @@SlagNasty yeah, like I have no strong opinions on the TikTok Ban vs No ban but this video was straight propaganda for the No Ban.

    • @abdulahmed738
      @abdulahmed738 29 дней назад +3

      its not, theres litteraly no valid reason to ban tiktok

    • @garfinity6998
      @garfinity6998 29 дней назад

      @@abdulahmed738 there are topics to touch on like how can you get evidence with the Chinese government and the fact that search/recommendation algorithms CAN be used to subliminally push its user base is on direction or the other. I wouldn’t be surprised if videos/content like this could be resulting from individuals subliminally being pushed towards the conclusion that “TikTok can’t be bad”
      Understand the US government would not have such a majority in favor of the ban if there wasn’t significant concern.

    • @shadowninja6689
      @shadowninja6689 29 дней назад

      I strongly disagree, this video is a welcome voice of reason. A lot of the arguments for banning TikTok quite frankly sound like a bunch of conspiracy theorists who will see ANYTHING TikTok and their users say or do as more evidence of their conspiracy theory that it's a Chinese spy and influence device.

  • @brendanedwards2277
    @brendanedwards2277 27 дней назад +10

    You conveniently left out the fact that ALL US social media sites are banned in China - Facebook, Instagram, Google, RUclips, Twitter etc for the exact same reason tiktok is going to be banned in the US.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 27 дней назад +1

      So? Do you think the US should apply as much censorship as China?

    • @RudyardG
      @RudyardG 27 дней назад

      That is nonsense. It's about DC and Israel controlling what Americans can think

    • @crescentprincekronos2518
      @crescentprincekronos2518 27 дней назад

      To be fair, we know for sure that the US is doing it, but trump had his opportunity to prove that China was doing it and couldn't. That's why it's not mentioned because we are already guilty of doing it. That's also why countries are waking up banning our NGOs.

    • @crescentprincekronos2518
      @crescentprincekronos2518 27 дней назад

      To be fair, we know for sure that the US is doing it, but trump had his opportunity to prove that China was doing it and couldn't. That's why it's not mentioned because we are already guilty of doing it. That's also why countries are waking up banning our NGOs.

    • @crescentprincekronos2518
      @crescentprincekronos2518 27 дней назад

      To be fair, we know for sure that the US is doing it, but trump had his opportunity to prove that China was doing it and couldn't. That's why it's not mentioned because we are already guilty of doing it. That's also why countries are waking up banning our NGOs.

  • @ktktktktktktkt
    @ktktktktktktkt 28 дней назад +22

    10:45 "The Chinese government likely already has far more data on US citizens than anything they could get from TikTok" is such a bad argument. Even if you're correct (which I severely question given how much hedging language you used), it could still serve a purpose as part of a larger plan. Even if not, there isn't "no state interest." You're just making way too many assumptions. You should stick with financial analysis because those are some bad assumptions.

    • @firstnlast
      @firstnlast 28 дней назад +1

      Yeah this guy doesn’t understand political issues at all. The CCP clearly has had a long-term plan to overtake the US for quite some time, but this guy doesn’t accept that anything coming out of China is under the control of, or can be coerced by the CCP. He’s ignorant of the total control that the CCP wields and how aggressive their espionage efforts are.

    • @Dani-kq6qq
      @Dani-kq6qq 28 дней назад

      The chinese government has on you is definitely way more than what tik tok has because china can just buy way more information than tik tok has from us companies already, that is actually legal

    • @cohan88
      @cohan88 28 дней назад +3

      It helps if you understand how the internet works, boomer.

  • @UsernameR8
    @UsernameR8 28 дней назад +1

    I am not American but i hope TikTok gets banned

  • @sedalia9356
    @sedalia9356 28 дней назад +2

    Haha. And the huge surge of Google ads.

  • @Wafflelover344
    @Wafflelover344 14 дней назад

    But other social media etc. Sell to etc.
    Those social media companies are domestic to the United States, if they wanted to they could regulate them. Hence, why the federal government wants them to be bought by a US company.
    I think this video either failed to raise, is ignorant of it, or just outright refused to point that out.
    And on another point, tiktok is already banned in other countries isn't it?
    Not saying that that's proof it does happen. But as the executive branch, problem prevention is one of their mandates.
    That said I do wish they had more hard evidence

  • @ayanmishra2186
    @ayanmishra2186 28 дней назад +3

    What Tik Tok is to US Google Meta are to the rest of the world

    • @kealeradecal6091
      @kealeradecal6091 28 дней назад

      Remember China bans Google, Facebook so banning it in the US is just

    • @rozenberg314
      @rozenberg314 28 дней назад

      Well in China they literally scrub the internet of things the don’t like so Google and Meta aren’t equivalent to TikTok (in China at least)

  • @Qmaster93
    @Qmaster93 28 дней назад +2

    MAKE BETTER BACKGROUND VIDEOS I DONT WANT TO WATCH SOMEONE SCROLLING TROUGH TIK TOK

  • @ktktktktktktkt
    @ktktktktktktkt 28 дней назад +17

    It's pretty nonsensical to cite to a Guardian article in your section on why the "US Government's hatred of TikTok is very difficult to understand." You're making a lot of assumptions in connecting that to how the government feels...
    Biden using TikTok doesn't mean he's encouraging his supporters to use it??? Yes it kinda looks bad in light of the tiktok "ban" bill but I believe the security issues are related to viewers, not content creators. If there is a potential security issue for Biden as a content creator, I'm sure there are precautions that can be taken to alleviate that risk.

  • @WillieFungo
    @WillieFungo 26 дней назад

    This whole TikTok ban saga highlights how strong rule of law is in America. In many countries if the government wanted to ban an app, it would be gone the next day with no legal challenges or anything.

  • @deppengu
    @deppengu 17 дней назад

    From my understanding the reason for the ban is because tiktok artificially creates trends to promote propaganda (unhealthy trends and division and so on)

    • @dianamew
      @dianamew 11 дней назад

      There's been a group of people other than the Chinese that have been doing this to us for 100 years 😊

  • @fetusness
    @fetusness 23 дня назад

    You said in the video that payment info is included in the collected data.
    You don’t think that could potentially be a problem?

  • @Habibi_exe
    @Habibi_exe 28 дней назад +2

    I want my spyware American 🇺🇸

  • @ibrahimpasha8229
    @ibrahimpasha8229 28 дней назад

    Well to be fair, it depends on how you define “brain control weaponry” lots of people think that could be propaganda. I think you’re taking the title too literal. Not saying I agree, but TikToks content, just like much of IGs content could be framed as propaganda but IG is owned by an American company while TikTok is owned by a Chinese company so they have different agendas. If TikTok was completely independent from the Chinese government then the Chinese government wouldn’t block a sale.

  • @stompgrounds
    @stompgrounds 28 дней назад +2

    Google, JEDI, Department of Defense

  • @duerf5826
    @duerf5826 29 дней назад +68

    The CCP: "Give us your user data."
    "No." said by no Chinese company ever.

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад +24

      “No” said by no American company ever.

    • @duerf5826
      @duerf5826 29 дней назад +30

      @@ericp1139 Apple literally said no to the FBI when they wanted a backdoor access to an iPhone. Short term memory much?

    • @niuchajianfa6222
      @niuchajianfa6222 29 дней назад

      @@duerf5826 yeah right you look exactly like the type of person who believe propaganda

    • @zachrome91
      @zachrome91 29 дней назад

      @@duerf5826no they didn’t. Under US law, certain requests made by law enforcement and certain agencies like the NSA or CIA cannot be disclosed by the company to the public. No way an American company refuses to provide data to the government unless the CEO has a deathwish.

    • @Anfieldwizard1989
      @Anfieldwizard1989 29 дней назад

      @@duerf5826 Not to forget that there are things like due process, whistleblower protection and actually taking the govt to court. These are alien concepts in PRC. Since 2017 they have mandated all citizens and organizations to comply in intelligence operations. Every company and every citizen is a potential Chinese NSA recruit.
      We should have forced a sale or banned this shit years ago.

  • @infiniteascension453
    @infiniteascension453 13 дней назад +1

    Majority of Gen Z on TikTok supports Palestine

    • @dianamew
      @dianamew 11 дней назад

      ..and that's why the owners of our politicians /country want it banned.

  • @kendalson7100
    @kendalson7100 29 дней назад +7

    If it isn't a danger why has the Chinese government been fighting a TikCrotch ban?

    • @ywsx6489
      @ywsx6489 28 дней назад

      Tiktok is so dangerous that the ccp banned it from the get go.

  • @user-iu4wh1zs6t
    @user-iu4wh1zs6t 28 дней назад +4

    I think a major reason is the social engineering that China is capable of exacting. The American political system depends upon spoon fed uncritical thinking voters. Tiktok has hijacked that trait to make the worst of us even worse than ever. Tiktok USA takes the echo chamber effect to a new level. It's a national security threat imo. It's something that would be used in the case of a world war (that level of social engineering). Remember, military psychological operations began with pro war propaganda to pressure people into patriotism. It was so effective that boomers are still reeling from it (passed down by their parents / nurtured into them).
    This planet is quite nearly out of control. Without governments forcing standardized education on the masses we'd have a mad max situation on our hands. Just imagine the criminality that would occur if 50% of our population was illiterate. Imagine how long it would take Mike Lindell and his entire fan base, to recreate a desktop computer from raw elements (copper, gold, and silicon). They'd kidnap people who could do it, long before they started educating themselves.

    • @papabear90
      @papabear90 28 дней назад

      Tik tok is nothing. At least tik tok isn't pushing any type of agenda to topple the government. They're just exposing your hypocrisy. You should see what US tech companies do in other countries to actively interfere, supporting "opposition movements", riots and protests.

    • @venom_lowrider
      @venom_lowrider 26 дней назад

      The government is just butthurt they can't spread their own propaganda 🙄 and they want to control their citizens access to information via censorship.

  • @dsnein
    @dsnein 28 дней назад +9

    love the channel - but you can’t handle cybersecurity. stick to what you’re good at.

    • @snuglife3697
      @snuglife3697 28 дней назад

      It was interesting. He did a "according to this Trump administration paper parapraph" to essentially say "see, this is the anti-tiktok view, now let's move on to the counterargument propaganda" without considering all the other info out there and cybersecurity analysis (where we're really not sure what data they're collecting)

    • @adsfjkasfads
      @adsfjkasfads 25 дней назад

      He is Chinese. Agreed, that his bias is apparent

  • @spointz8936
    @spointz8936 27 дней назад +3

    Let's be honest the ban is about suppressing pro-Palestine content and re-exerting control over youth political discourse

  • @joshbrown4608
    @joshbrown4608 25 дней назад +2

    Wish you told more of the story. Probably the worst video i have seen from the channel and the worst on the subject across youtube. You seem deliberately obtuse to some of the more damning things that have been pointed out by others. Hopefully you redirect your efforts in the next one.

  • @raymondcaylor6292
    @raymondcaylor6292 12 дней назад

    Dude. You say banning Tiktok infringes on the First Amendment rights of millions of Americans. No social media platform is a true public forum. They take it upon themselves to restrict your speech for any reason they deem fit. In what way does not having the ability to post on a platform that restricts free speech equate to a 1st Amendment violation?

  • @pradeepmagan6951
    @pradeepmagan6951 29 дней назад +15

    Tik Tok should be allowed until China allows Western Apps to be freely downloaded in China

  • @kenhaze5230
    @kenhaze5230 28 дней назад +3

    It IS brain-control weaponry. Just not good brain-control weaponry.

    • @blubb7711
      @blubb7711 27 дней назад

      It’s a weapon of mass destruction.

  • @swapw
    @swapw 25 дней назад +2

    They ban your app for no reason but you can't ban theirs because?

  • @spades6916
    @spades6916 27 дней назад

    I’m pretty sure meta will like to get their hands on TikTok’s algorithm.

  • @petermanach
    @petermanach 26 дней назад

    You miss the point that the tiktok hate speech monitoring system can be used to eliminate anti-ccp speech. If you think that tiktok is being forthcoming on how its system works, i have a bridge in baltimore for you.

  • @GAATL_Viet
    @GAATL_Viet 27 дней назад

    Just imo: they can target you with a specific video based on your IP. If your IP is from US, then you will see more Anti-US videos

  • @user-uw1gk7hf1o
    @user-uw1gk7hf1o 26 дней назад

    you should do some more research on this one, there's a huge ratio difference on pro ccp content vs negative ccp content on tiktok compared to other platforms. The whataboutism in the comments is also very bot like, who cares this much about an app?

  • @baanchiau
    @baanchiau 28 дней назад

    America doesn't like number two. MAGA

  • @wolfgangi
    @wolfgangi 27 дней назад

    Trump is absolutely right about this

  • @zaraustra
    @zaraustra 27 дней назад +2

    Politicians are concerned about tictok but not the fact that the Chinese government are buying millions of acres of land and houses all over the Western world, including the USA.

  • @GPDC100
    @GPDC100 28 дней назад

    Cos it outbeat US

  • @hushpuppykl
    @hushpuppykl 28 дней назад +7

    They don’t want to ban it. They want it!

  • @TheLockerzer
    @TheLockerzer 28 дней назад

    I love your videos so much, I watch every WSM and BBM video within hours of release. I see you doing great things if you keep this up. But PLEASE don't veer your reporting into topics like this and PLEASE stop using scam advertisers. People will lose faith in you so quickly. You are doing great things, please just focus on what you are best at which seems to be financial analysis, economics, and fraud. Not national security.

  • @ericp1139
    @ericp1139 29 дней назад +29

    Because AIPAC tells them.

    • @zachrome91
      @zachrome91 29 дней назад +1

      100%. The Gaza conflict has exposed Israel and Tik Tok has been at the center of this. And this isn’t good for AIPAC’s mission as young people can’t watch kids getting slaughtered and support the country doing the slaughtering.

    • @upstar21t
      @upstar21t 29 дней назад +6

      True 😮

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад +6

      @@upstar21t of course, they’re deleting comments now.

    • @upstar21t
      @upstar21t 28 дней назад

      @@ericp1139 Also true. 🤔

  • @williammuthee2474
    @williammuthee2474 29 дней назад +15

    I don't mind banning tik tok

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 29 дней назад +3

      I’m guessing you’ll only care when they eventually ban something you do care about.

    • @niuchajianfa6222
      @niuchajianfa6222 29 дней назад

      and that's why you are a douuche

    • @williammuthee2474
      @williammuthee2474 29 дней назад

      @@ericp1139 pretty much

    • @etrestre9403
      @etrestre9403 29 дней назад

      @@ericp1139 cope

    • @zachrome91
      @zachrome91 29 дней назад

      Why?

  • @jarodgreene4017
    @jarodgreene4017 29 дней назад +3

    Your comment on the Guardian article 😅😅😅

  • @eliasguzman1647
    @eliasguzman1647 29 дней назад +1

    Nice, new video

  • @simplemechanics246
    @simplemechanics246 27 дней назад

    Mickey mouses are just so duuuumb

  • @adrianlanspeary562
    @adrianlanspeary562 28 дней назад

    Once you used the word ‘deranged’ you lost credibility.

  • @shhewp8472
    @shhewp8472 29 дней назад

    meanwhile, GM

  • @chiangweytan5937
    @chiangweytan5937 27 дней назад

    Y tiktok ban?
    Coz 'Murica...Fuck Yeah!!🤘🤘 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🤘🤘

  • @battlefield5826
    @battlefield5826 29 дней назад +17

    What do you think the real reason is? Is the government really worried about your tiktok data lol😂

    • @user-ni6py2qv4q
      @user-ni6py2qv4q 29 дней назад

      They just worried it's not in their hands, so they cannot ask ByteDance to work with NSA/CIA on spying against everyone in the world like they did with Google and a bunch of others.

    • @danielc9967
      @danielc9967 29 дней назад +2

      Yes they are, and you should be too. China having access to millions of Americans is not a good thing no matter how you look at it

    • @battlefield5826
      @battlefield5826 28 дней назад

      Your government is not your friend buddy sorry to break it to you

    • @duancoviero9759
      @duancoviero9759 28 дней назад

      ​@@danielc9967😂😂😂 yeah...ok

  • @LiverpoolRubi
    @LiverpoolRubi 19 дней назад

    I want to ban it but not for the reasons stated in the vid m🤣

  • @dma8728
    @dma8728 27 дней назад

    she is insane lol, sad

  • @frankmurguia
    @frankmurguia 28 дней назад +7

    Damn this channel turned into Chinese Communist Party Millennial

  • @salamandiusbraveheart4183
    @salamandiusbraveheart4183 28 дней назад +3

    It's always been trash

  • @rolandosada8077
    @rolandosada8077 27 дней назад

    Tic tock then x.

  • @Merle1987
    @Merle1987 29 дней назад +4

    Can you do a video on Toyota and EVs? Logically Answered just did one.
    Also, it was revealed that Tik Tok was logging people's keystrokes.

  • @therasbull
    @therasbull 29 дней назад +12

    Most bad faith video ever made by this (normally amazing) channel

    • @spushkin1
      @spushkin1 29 дней назад +6

      I agree.

    • @aghhhog2655
      @aghhhog2655 28 дней назад +4

      Bad faith because he doesn’t agree with your views, lol

    • @andrewdubose9968
      @andrewdubose9968 28 дней назад +2

      Also very bad faith on anything crypto, and increasingly dodgy sponsorships.

  • @nathannebraska2408
    @nathannebraska2408 29 дней назад +15

    It's a distraction

    • @SlagNasty
      @SlagNasty 29 дней назад +2

      Sort of. It also is being removed for hosting "anti-semitic" content aka dissenting opinions.

    • @blubb7711
      @blubb7711 27 дней назад +1

      It’s literally engineered to make its users dumber.

  • @91DWay
    @91DWay 29 дней назад

    Capitol Hill Millenial out here

  • @federicogaretti3667
    @federicogaretti3667 24 дня назад

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @beinquisitive
    @beinquisitive 28 дней назад +6

    Wow. This is some tiktok apologist stuff. I did not expect that from wallstreetmillenial.

  • @stuartegrin7543
    @stuartegrin7543 28 дней назад

    Fjb

  • @DrManuelKuehner
    @DrManuelKuehner 28 дней назад +2

    Normally, I really enjoy the videos of this channel. Surprisingly, this video seems atypically one-sided (pro TikTok).

  • @lotusflower2517
    @lotusflower2517 29 дней назад +5

    'Free Speech' is an oxymoron.

  • @patmiller0107
    @patmiller0107 25 дней назад

    Worst article I’ve heard. Poorly researched and full of opinion.
    I’m unsubscribing and watching Patrick Boyle instead.

  • @inigomeniego4906
    @inigomeniego4906 29 дней назад +2

    Fun fact, Montana is actually Montaña (mountain in Spanish)

  • @nomex9829
    @nomex9829 28 дней назад +3

    WSB, where is your critical thinking? You're being naive and show a poor understanding of how information can be extracted from data.

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 28 дней назад +4

    tiktok keep showing the hypocrisy of american politics

  • @willardSpirit
    @willardSpirit 29 дней назад +3

    The case to ban is shaky: hypotheticals, maybes, and perhaps that they can share personal information to Chinese government.
    Just say it's for fear mongering
    And geopolitical spat

  • @sanshuma0
    @sanshuma0 29 дней назад +2

    Fantastic and spot-on!!! Keep up the great work!!

  • @tylerolsen4417
    @tylerolsen4417 28 дней назад

    Do better research

  • @tobiaskozlov5151
    @tobiaskozlov5151 29 дней назад +7

    because we elected clowns to run the country

  • @silversurfer8237
    @silversurfer8237 28 дней назад +1

    Great content. Other RUclipsrs touched upon how it does not follow other platforms to censor topics certain political interest groups find distasteful.

  • @stuartegrin7543
    @stuartegrin7543 28 дней назад

    Ft ccp

  • @havencat9337
    @havencat9337 28 дней назад

    LOBY...thats what it is. FACEBOOK its pumping milions and milions into this.

  • @aiyabanana2849
    @aiyabanana2849 27 дней назад

    Because the people can see the reality of what is the government up to from an outsider's point of view changing public opinion. That is the only reason.

  • @sethaldrich6902
    @sethaldrich6902 28 дней назад +4

    I'm all for free speech but i agree with the ban of tiktok, it is dumbing down America and the world and there are the privacy concerns, I'd certainly feel more comfortable if an American company was running it, not much but a little more comfortable.

    • @duancoviero9759
      @duancoviero9759 28 дней назад

      😂 it doesn't matter who's running it man but at least you're not a bot.

    • @stuffbenlikes
      @stuffbenlikes 28 дней назад

      It's not a ban on tiktok, the bill doesn't even mention tiktok. It's a massive power grab by the government who will now be able to force this on any social media they don't like.