These are the coffee makers you'll most commonly find in Finnish households, so I've learned from places like Reddit and through videos right here on RUclips. Naturally, as someone who's always been passionate about Finland and Finnish culture, and because they're the country that has the most coffee consumption per capita in the world, I find that it's a no-brainer to go with a Moccamaster. It just makes sense. Make of that what you will, but if anyone here is still on the fence, maybe that'll help you decide x
You can try turning the KBGV off about half way through brewing (when the visible water reservoir is nearly half empty) and removing the carafe so the filter holder can't drain, then slide the carafe back and turn the machine back on to finish the brewing cycle. There is no pump in these machines. It willl heat up again and push all the water through the copper coil to finish whatever water you measured to start with. Also, always make sure the filter holder engages the spring when set into the base for it or it won't be able to drain and you will have an overflow and mess. (If you've done that when you started you won't have to do it again just because you temporarily remove the glass carafe and then put it back again.)
@@upscalebohemian5372 Thanks. I've used that technique before with mixed results. Sometimes it goes exactly as planned and other times, when replacing the carafe, if I'm not fast enough, a small overflow/spill happens leaving coffee on the hot plate. The switch would be so easy but I guess you can't have everything. Hey Technivorm, are you listening???
Most of the time I will brew 2-3 cups but on weekends we need larger capacities. Technivorm says minimum amount for KB is 4 cups. What is your experience with smaller quantities?
That's four European-sized cups when it comes to Moccamaster, which basically means after dinner sized cups/saucers, not American-sized cups or measuring cups. I make a 1.25 liter pot most mornings just for myself, and when I have a guest joining me there's almost not enough for two who like to sit for an hour or so and relax over coffee.
To an extent, the quality of the coffee increases as the dose gets smaller and the grind gets finer. This is because it's easier for the showerhead to evenly saturate all the grounds.
@@primacoffeeequipmentFor better dispersion on larger brews with my KBVG I bought a second shower head and (using an ice pick) re-directed the outlet holes for better dispersion. Easily swaps out. Works great.
I've had one for about 30 years now, no problems except for the grounds holder/basket, it has a shutoff valve and and useually use it each brewing cycle. I start with it blocked, let the water build up and stir the grounds with all the water in it then open the valve, nice trick to get stronger coffee. But after 20 years for the grounds bucket isn't bad when used nearly every day.
Great overview, thanks! I have the KBGV and it's about time to replace the glass carafe as the plastic on lid's hinge has worn out and is about to break. Now I'm wondering: would the KB's carafe be compatible with the KBGV brewer? I think the KB's carafe looks somewhat more sturdy for some reason.
What about the concern that the hot plate burns sitting coffee by the time I want a second cup. Is that a legit reason to get the thermal or is that not really why my coffee tastes bad in my cuisinart
I believe the 'v' is like a German v, which is closer to an English f. So it's pronounced techniform, instead of tecnhiworm, which makes more sense. Thank you for an instructive video.
Two things that he said incorrectly. The Moccamaster cup with Black silicone wrap DOES come with the purchase. The cup is in the box rather than a separate item with proof of purchase. The other colors that are available for purchase are green, blue and orange. Second,
Does the hotplate degrade the coffee quality? I am trying to determine if I should get the thermal model instead as in the past I thought I heard that hotplates degrade flavor.
It depends how long your coffee sits but yes, after long enough the heating plate can degrade the flavor. If you're drinking it all within 30 minutes, I don't think it matters either way.
It depends how fine we're talking, but yes. You'd need to brew smaller volumes of coffee, though (single cups). With pre-ground coffee, the trick to getting a proper extraction (not under-extracted and not over-extracted) is accommodating your grind size with an appropriate water volume to ensure the extraction lands in the right window.
They do tweak the designs over time. The spray arm on the KBGV Select used to have flat drilled holes in the shower head and they were changed to individual little punched cone shapes instead. Even some coffee professionals felt this change made stirring the coffee slurry when the water reservoir was half empty (to make sure all grounds were wet) superfluous after this tiny redesign.
Beware when purchasing Melitta #1 filters. I ordered them from Amazon and the filters were very small. These filters were way too small for the Cup One. In fact, I have never seen this small a filter nor have I seen a coffeemaker that would accommodate this very small filter.
AVOID the Moccamaster KBT. Their carafe shatters and Moccamaster's warranty does not cover it. Had it for 2 years using it on weekends, shattered yesterday. Customer service's response was almost insulting. "The borosilicate glass lining can be easily damaged when it comes into contact with anything abrasive. The carafe is not covered under warranty. We are happy to offer 20% off and free shipping on a replacement. An invoice with a discount applied has been sent. Once completed, you will receive tracking information." If the carafe so delicate why sell it? The only thing my carafe came in contact with was: hot water, coffee grounds, dish soap and an Ikea soft bristle dish brush. And gall of their customer support believing I would repurchase another carafe if there is no warranty… I have no nice words to reply to that… For a $340 coffee maker, I expected much better.
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These are the coffee makers you'll most commonly find in Finnish households, so I've learned from places like Reddit and through videos right here on RUclips. Naturally, as someone who's always been passionate about Finland and Finnish culture, and because they're the country that has the most coffee consumption per capita in the world, I find that it's a no-brainer to go with a Moccamaster. It just makes sense. Make of that what you will, but if anyone here is still on the fence, maybe that'll help you decide x
I have the CLubline, which I don’t know the year of manufacture, but it’s running like new. I love it!! Best coffee maker ever!
Great!
I love the Moccamaster brewers. I have 2 of them and want to add the Moccamaster CDT Grand to my collection.
We love them, too!
Not so hot on that design..
I’m in between the first and second model .. not sure which to get
Will the KB filter holder work with the KBGV? I would like to be able to close off the flow for pre-infusion.
Unfortunately no. The bases are different and not cross-compatible.
You can try turning the KBGV off about half way through brewing (when the visible water reservoir is nearly half empty) and removing the carafe so the filter holder can't drain, then slide the carafe back and turn the machine back on to finish the brewing cycle. There is no pump in these machines. It willl heat up again and push all the water through the copper coil to finish whatever water you measured to start with. Also, always make sure the filter holder engages the spring when set into the base for it or it won't be able to drain and you will have an overflow and mess. (If you've done that when you started you won't have to do it again just because you temporarily remove the glass carafe and then put it back again.)
@@upscalebohemian5372 Thanks. I've used that technique before with mixed results. Sometimes it goes exactly as planned and other times, when replacing the carafe, if I'm not fast enough, a small overflow/spill happens leaving coffee on the hot plate. The switch would be so easy but I guess you can't have everything. Hey Technivorm, are you listening???
Most of the time I will brew 2-3 cups but on weekends we need larger capacities. Technivorm says minimum amount for KB is 4 cups. What is your experience with smaller quantities?
That's four European-sized cups when it comes to Moccamaster, which basically means after dinner sized cups/saucers, not American-sized cups or measuring cups. I make a 1.25 liter pot most mornings just for myself, and when I have a guest joining me there's almost not enough for two who like to sit for an hour or so and relax over coffee.
To an extent, the quality of the coffee increases as the dose gets smaller and the grind gets finer. This is because it's easier for the showerhead to evenly saturate all the grounds.
@@primacoffeeequipmentFor better dispersion on larger brews with my KBVG I bought a second shower head and (using an ice pick) re-directed the outlet holes for better dispersion. Easily swaps out. Works great.
I've had one for about 30 years now, no problems except for the grounds holder/basket, it has a shutoff valve and and useually use it each brewing cycle. I start with it blocked, let the water build up and stir the grounds with all the water in it then open the valve, nice trick to get stronger coffee. But after 20 years for the grounds bucket isn't bad when used nearly every day.
What is the benefit of having the water flowing slower?
Great overview, thanks! I have the KBGV and it's about time to replace the glass carafe as the plastic on lid's hinge has worn out and is about to break. Now I'm wondering: would the KB's carafe be compatible with the KBGV brewer? I think the KB's carafe looks somewhat more sturdy for some reason.
What about the concern that the hot plate burns sitting coffee by the time I want a second cup. Is that a legit reason to get the thermal or is that not really why my coffee tastes bad in my cuisinart
All the cones are plastic?
I believe the 'v' is like a German v, which is closer to an English f. So it's pronounced techniform, instead of tecnhiworm, which makes more sense. Thank you for an instructive video.
There is one model missing: the Moccamaster CDT Grand 1,8 l ❤
For mostly brewing half carafs would you recommend kb or kbgv.
Two things that he said incorrectly. The Moccamaster cup with Black silicone wrap DOES come with the purchase. The cup is in the box rather than a separate item with proof of purchase. The other colors that are available for purchase are green, blue and orange. Second,
Does the hotplate degrade the coffee quality? I am trying to determine if I should get the thermal model instead as in the past I thought I heard that hotplates degrade flavor.
It depends how long your coffee sits but yes, after long enough the heating plate can degrade the flavor. If you're drinking it all within 30 minutes, I don't think it matters either way.
I stepped up to the KBGT brewer, which I like better than the KBT.
Can it be used with finer ground coffee?
It depends how fine we're talking, but yes. You'd need to brew smaller volumes of coffee, though (single cups). With pre-ground coffee, the trick to getting a proper extraction (not under-extracted and not over-extracted) is accommodating your grind size with an appropriate water volume to ensure the extraction lands in the right window.
Can you brew less than half a carafe?
Yes! You can brew even less than that.
If only the Cup One had a decent shower head. It would be a world beater single cup brewer.
Yea, that's one drawback on that one for sure.
They do tweak the designs over time. The spray arm on the KBGV Select used to have flat drilled holes in the shower head and they were changed to individual little punched cone shapes instead. Even some coffee professionals felt this change made stirring the coffee slurry when the water reservoir was half empty (to make sure all grounds were wet) superfluous after this tiny redesign.
I have a cup one and it kind of drives me insane. Pretty sure it will last my whole life though.
Beware when purchasing Melitta #1 filters. I ordered them from Amazon and the filters were very small. These filters were way too small for the Cup One. In fact, I have never seen this small a filter nor have I seen a coffeemaker that would accommodate this very small filter.
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AVOID the Moccamaster KBT. Their carafe shatters and Moccamaster's warranty does not cover it. Had it for 2 years using it on weekends, shattered yesterday. Customer service's response was almost insulting.
"The borosilicate glass lining can be easily damaged when it comes into contact with anything abrasive. The carafe is not covered under warranty. We are happy to offer 20% off and free shipping on a replacement. An invoice with a discount applied has been sent. Once completed, you will receive tracking information."
If the carafe so delicate why sell it? The only thing my carafe came in contact with was: hot water, coffee grounds, dish soap and an Ikea soft bristle dish brush. And gall of their customer support believing I would repurchase another carafe if there is no warranty… I have no nice words to reply to that… For a $340 coffee maker, I expected much better.
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I've got one of those big Commercial stainless Bunn coffee makers you see in Diners and at 7-11. I guarantee it blows the doors off any of these..
Uh… K.