Discogs has very important info for buying and collecting music and I hope it keeps on growing for people like me and anyone that is thinking about this hobby.
You my friend are the 60 minutes of the you tube And that’s a good thing Thank you I love Discogs I buy and collect I had used an excel spread sheet to catalog my collection until I found you! Thank you for this interview!
i am an end user of both. I buy and sell on ebay for the last 20years and maybe 4 to 5 years buying on Discogs. I love the information on Discogs. Buying and returning or disputes are handled much faster and more professionally on Ebay. Discogs do not have some of the shipping costs listed from the buyers, so you have to wait for them to email back to you, and you can wait for days for the answer, too many times I have. returns are not handled through discogs, discogs has told me that since they don't handle the money they only send emails to each party, with a longer waiting time between. I sometimes just have to do a charge-back from my credit card and that is done right away! If the item, on Ebay, is not as advertised than the seller has to pay for the shipping back to himself, which is usually the cause for a used lp. Discogs has to shorten their dispute times and make sure that all sellers have their shipping costs listed and any bundled discounts. So yes buying and returning and disputing is much quicker on ebay and Discogs should streamline this part of their buyers experience. When I am looking for lps I open two windows, info from discogs and buy it from ebay, unless ebay does not have a NM copy. and discogs can at 20% of the time is much longer to ship their lps. ebay has the rule that items must be shipped in 24hrs or a day or two at most. Discogs I can go through a whole week before the seller ships??? But Discogs has the best info on the different pressings and what the label looks like!
Integrating the "dead wax" codes into Discogs would be huge in my opinion. I was just emailing you last week about publishing a "field guide" to understanding them.
Deadwax codes are already integrated into the listings on discogs, they have been since the beginning. The challenge is having all the data entered for every LP that contains inscriptions, they need more contributions.
@@derosa1989 Yes, some of the common basic info is there already. What I would like to see is a detailed explanation of the pressing info for some of the major labels. I had asked Mr. Fremer about either writing a booklet, app, of Discogs integration that would easily explain all this. A guy can dream, right? Although, if there were a guide, I bet there would be many who would be willing to buy it if the info is correct. I'm tired of buying records that look clean and scratch-free but don't sound good.
Feedback for Mr Lewandowski: I've had far more disappointments with buying vinyl from Discogs than Ebay. The reason, I think, is that at least EBay more or less demands that a photo of the actual item accompanies the listing. Like most experienced buyers I can tell a lot from an image of the record and the cover, irrespective of the stated condition. And at about 8 minutes into this it's pretty clear they don't do a lot at Discogs to help you if you buy a dud. No way would I ever buy expensive rarities without images. I've bought dozens of LPs on Ebay, and other outlets that provide images, in the past year or so, with zero issues and find I no longer bother with Discogs, so if you're reading this Mr Lewandowski, please consider insisting on images of the actual item and not a useless generic one. Until you do I'm probably done with using your service for purchasing. And no, Mr Fremer, Discogs doesn't blow away Ebay for the above reason...
@@fhussain44 sounds like you're writing defensively from a seller's perspective. I've also had situations where I thought I could trust a seller, based on a positive initial Discogs experience, only to be let down on subsequent purchases. Nothing beats a photo and, frankly, if it's too much bother to upload for a seller, there's another one I don't want to deal with...
I am fine with low dollar purchases ( sub $50 ) without pictures. Depending on reviews of the seller. When it comes to extremely rare costly lps not going to take that leap without detailed pictures.
I didn't realize the founder was that young. I find discogs quite useful as a record collector. Great video. I love this channel and look forward to new videos. I wish there was more record reviews and once in a while some a little less expensive audio equipment reviews. Have a great day, thank you.
update the marketplace to have a shipping calculator like on eBay? Plenty of sellers on Discogs use imaginary postage rates to help recoup the 8% fee, PayPal fee and more lol
@@donjohnson9688 yes, but not rounding it off to the nearest $5 to $10 LOL. That other shipping description most sellers use is: "add $2 to $3 for each additional record"....is all B.S... most of the time, postage wont cost more if the parcel weighs under 2kg / 4.4 lbs....
I see a change that they lower the price on the records and raise the price on freight costs, as the freight cost doesn't get this 8% fee, if I am right? This results in "wrong" worth of the record's stats.
Talking about Discogs vs. Ebay, if you have a really valuable record (over $1000) you are more likely to get a higher price on eBay. The really big spenders in the worldwide market tend to go there.
The biggest problem with Discogs is that when you look at a seller’s inventory, and put something in the cart, when you go back, it puts you at the top of the list, so you have to scroll forever to get back to where you were.
I use the app on my phone, so I’m not sure if I can do that, but I like the idea. Anyhow, their revenue is suffering because I can’t be bothered to scroll back to the middle of a list when the seller has 1000s of items.
Discogs is a useful tool for buyers and sellers equally. Although the site is not perfect, as info on releases is sometimes incorrect. Definitely will keep supporting the sellers on the site. The 'bay and the stack are 2nd and 3rd in line....Discogs is #1 in my book.
@@XX-121 Why do they have a staff of 80 then when "we" have to do the work? What are these 80 people doing at any given time during their working hours?
@@rabarebra how many people does wikipedia employ? that's user edited too. i just edited a discogs entry last week. if you see something wrong/incorrect FIX IT don't just sit around and complain! is that what you do when you got poop on your butthole? just sit around and cry until mommy comes and wipes it off for you?
Got to visit your little friend in Oregon . Some reason I expected to see ton's of records at Discgogs . Love Discgogs , found some great records on their site at really good prices .
Next to duct tape, Discogs.com is the greatest invention of all time. "....or at least one of them". Cheers! However, if you could update the search functionality on the Android app so it's as robust as the website search capabilities. That would be a HUGE help. Fremer's idea about offering some "not so easy to find" educational advice would be great. His example of the "1st pressing" mislabeling is spot on.
There are two features I really miss on Discogs. One is the ability to list the official studio albums only, wikipedia is actually better at this. The second is the ability to choose (or exclude) sellers based on the country of origin in the marketplace. Postage is too expensive, so many of us only buy from Europe.
I started using Discogs in 2007 primarily as a source for information for recordings I already had. Later, I started using Discogs as a middleman for purchasing recordings. To date, I have had no problems with any purchase I have made through Discogs. Again, Discogs is not the merchant so really should not be made to account for purchases made on their site (unless it is false information posted, which they do have in place methods to prevent this). More than looking at Discogs as a store, the amazing thing is the incredible database they have which provides the information which can help someone decide what version of a recording they want to add to their collection. Excellent interview.
"Discogs is not the merchant so really should not be made to account for purchases made on their site" - yet they are taking an 8% commission on every record sold. I think they have a duty of care in that case. Ebay has far better dispute procedures from a buyer perspective.
@@MrCatalysis101 While I understand your desire to hold Discogs to the same (or even close) level of accountability as eBay, the disparity of income between the two alone justifies the diminished ability of Discogs to perform anywhere near as well as eBay. When "M" changes to "B" before "illions", you can do a lot more. It would be interesting to see, if taking into consideration total volume of sales OR looking at record sales alone on eBay, there has been a significant difference in the way things are handled. I have been on eBay since 2001 and have ordered recordings there as well. I remember receiving a broken LP. The upshot to the whole thing was, "It happens". Here's your payment back. Funny thing...I still didn't have the record (which was a rare one). The seller moved on and you would never know it happened (my complaint means nothing to someone who is ordering something from this seller other than a record). At least with Discogs narrowness of merchandise, its record would have significance to every buyer.
@@AriKona i agree. it seems like most users of discogs are cool people and most likely music lovers such as ourselves. i'm glad ebay exists if for nothing else to keep scam artists and chumps off of discogs.
First, (if you haven't already done so) sign up with Discogs.com and go to their forum area. There are a huge number of members who can offer guidance in decoding the matrix/runout data in the dead wax area. To my knowledge, there's no real "How to decipher... by XXX" book out on the market that you can pick up and use to train yourself. It's basically a "learn-as-you-go" and an "accumulate-and-grow" experience - at least that's been my limited experience. You should also watch Michael Fremer's RUclips video RMAF13: Deciphering dead wax letters, numbers and squiggles.
Michael - store inventory turns of new vinyl would be the way to determine if the sales stats are off. If they’re pressed, they’re shipped so they can’t just fall into ether..net!
Hey Michael and Kevin, the very first vinyl record I ever owned was The Beatles 45 Help!/I'm Down. It was released in the USA on July 19, 1965, which happened to be my 10th birthday. My mom and dad gave me a record player for my birthday and on the same day took me to the record store and said, "You can have one record. Pick one out." Of course, being a Beatles fan, I wanted the brand new release, Help!, which they were already playing like crazy on AM radio. I loved the sleeve, too. I ended up literally playing it hundreds and possibly thousands of times. Over the years, I don't know what happened to my original copy of the 45 of Help! So, after I discovered Discogs, I ordered that record, original 1965 45 of Help! with 'very good' sleeve. I received it in great condition and it is in the Nirvana Section of my vinyl collection, which is pretty large and serious, including all genres. Over the years, I've owned thousands of vinyl albums. Thanks for having a service that provided me with something very, very special to me (sentimentally).
multiverser I still have it and it didn’t come with the picture sleeve, just Capitol company sleeve. I had just been to the movie and needed it. Next one I got was A hard days night. Not sure how or where but it was still available and this time the picture sleeve.
@@Onteo1 I'm very certain my first one had the picture sleeve, the Fab Four on the beach. It was at a large department store called Giant (similar to a Super Target) of today.
What's the background noise? Sounds like standing in a server room. IMO, the best way to describe Discogs is: the wikipedia of vinyl records, with a marketplace on the side. Selling to yourself happens a lot in the painters business, to drive up the price of their works. It's a form of speculation.
Allmusic was the first to have a database but it didn't get into specific pressings and focused more on opinionated album reviews with just track listing and credits.
. . and Allmusic partial track listening/preview in most of the cases. Is it more suitable compared to discogs RUclips implementation (from which some - actually just a few - of the videos are gone) ? I guess it's good to have both options. Also, some of the reviews on discogs did help me too. Thanks to both!
Just got done entering 1500, 78 records i got 2 years ago, rangeing from 1910 to 1955 they had no covers most where found on discogs i was able to id the dates, music styles, and ratings to compare with my reviews very helpful in cataloging this very random mess. Also some videos. I have only listened to about 300 so far. So far kept 1500 out of 5000.
Just a note to all look at the feedback of the seller just like ebay and lots of dealers have deals on shipping like the first album is 5$ the rest is free or 4.00 and only 1$ per album after you buy the first one so look at the offers from the dealers before you buy I recently bought from a dealer got 5 albums and a cd for 21$ all play great
So many negative comments - lets face it discogs is great they should continue doing what they do - you don't like the p&P or commission then go use Ebay.
My one criticism of Discogs is that, as a busy person, I sometimes miss communications from vendors. Messages from vendors are saved on Discogs with no notification to the buyer. It would help tremendously if a buyer received an email telling them that there are messages waiting. Because I have missed several vendor communication, I’ve received negative feedback - depressing.
Until Discogs has sellers post photos of actual items for sale and not generic pics, the site will stay second fiddle to eBay. Photos are a must, as most sellers don't know how to grade records. Many times, photos can expose flaws that sellers do not see or list. Unfortunate, as there is a lot to like about Discogs. Must go the extra step.
@@fhussain44 yes I agree I have bought on discogs fron a few with a big inventory with 99% positive feedback no problems it's the same with ebay look at the feedback
I signed up for DISCOGS months ago and I loved the site.. UNTIL they changed something a month or so ago and I got bombarded by basically demands for accepting cookies when I logged in. I say demand because when I decline (And I have to go through multiple clicks to decline each batch of cookies, no pun intended) I get the same demand over and over again requiring I go through the same time consuming decline of each set of cookies. I clicked on a small link in the extended page of that cookie acceptance demand and there is a list of all the cookies "third party venders" will be putting on your computer. The list is MASSIVE! More than 100 so called vender cookies will be placed into your system if you accept. Now DISCOGS declares your privacy protection in THEIR site but these third party cookies... Are they restricted to gathering data ONLY from your use of the DISCOGS site? Are they gathering your data ALL the time? DISCOGS would not answer. I am currently trying to gather info on the over 100 cookies that DISCOGS wants to put on our computers and identify the companies behind the cookies. I will no longer use DISCOGS as they won't publish the list of the third party cookies and define what data these cookies gather and when and what protections we as users have from these third parties. We pay for anti-virus and anti-spying software and here is a company wanting you to allow actual spying on you by over 100 third parties. Sorry no thanks. My bet is on the cookie request window if DISCOGS stated "we will be putting more than 100 "third party" cookies on your system" most people would say "NO." So DISCOGS does not spell that out. Napster was once a pretty cool site when it started then it quickly became the internet whore where you picked up viruses and spyware left and right. DISCOGS is not following a policy or government regulation when giving third parties access to their customers online information. They are selling that access to their customer's online information. DISCOGS has not denied that to me the multiple times I have contacted them.
If you upgrade some gear , camera and audio, this Channel will get much better. Nevertheless always great work with much love for our spinning friends.Walk on
I love Discogs but it definitely has it's shortcomings. I made my collection public, over 450 records, and the only thing my visitors can see is other peoples records, all for sale (I'm not selling), in no apparent order and no way to search or filter. Did I mention over 450 records? And mine is a rather small collection. I decided to make my own website. The community is wonderful, definitely a great website for research, but the platform I think needs some major improvements.
i can see your colletion, now 544records, and i can sort by Artist or Title or Label or Catalog or Added or Format or Year and Rating. what you mention are copies for sale in the marketplace if it is up for sale. i'm not sure what the problem is.
only thing that needs major improvement is your attitude. there are plenty of people that love discogs. if you don't like it don't use it. and what you said doesn't make any sense anyway as @Zombieflesheater ZFE said. you can sort lists however you want just click on however you want to sort things. do you computer much?
My records are listed and tracked in excel. I’d love an interface to upload the list to my Discogs list. The thought of retyping all of that has put me off from doing it.
Chances are you won't be typing much if at all since the items you own are most likely already in the Discogs database. All you'll need to do is click "Add to Collection".
@@zippyphonic Spent a month adding 300 records. When there is so much wrong in the database and it is hell to find the correct matrix codes, THIS takes time. And I am not talking about adding "new" records to the database, but existing ones. How to add a new/old record I have no clue as it is a jungle of forms to fill out, and I do not understand half of it. I like the database, though.
He didn't say it wasn't there, but it is too often not used correctly by those who list records, if they list the matrix codes at all - too often there is no code. Way too often they think they have a 1st pressing, when it is a 2nd, 3rd or 4th pressing. Everyone wants their records to be a 1st pressing it seems. I've heard this over and over from buyers, that 1st pressings is not really understood properly. I think it is too complicated for people to list the matrix code correctly. Michael Fremer is spot on.
Unfortunately my first experience with Discogs turned out to be bad! Some guy with great reviews for at least a couple of years turned out to be fraudster. Luckily my credit card company refunded my money but it took a while before that user was to be removed. He got like 30 other folks in the same month. No bueno.
I have a 0 rating on discogs because I haven't bought and sold stuff yet! Right now I just use it for cataloging! But every time I try to buy, I can't because I don't meet the sellers requirements! 🙄
Ebay used to be a great place to buy records, but discogs has hurt the ebay record business. As a record collector, I much prefer the auction format, so this has been a quite negative development for me.
Seems like Michael kept interrupting him while he was trying to answer his question, making him cut off mid sentence and going on to another question without finishing what he was saying before. Kinda annoying for an interview but I get it in a friendly conversation setting.
DISCOGS...Is there a possibility to record EVERY master tapes in the record companies vaults on discogs...that would be awesome and very helpful. Also a branch from Discogs called SESSIONOGS...There is nothing on the net that really informs Companies and collectors of ARTISTS sessions. It would also keep records in case of destroying the originals. Think about it. I have made a template to fill in information of my fav artist Connie Francis from 1955>. Great keep up the good work....from Greece
Have you seen much of Fremer's camera work in the past (Especially trade shows). Holy shaky camera headache, batman. Production isn't his strong suit. Information and story telling is. Story is always the king in video, so it makes his content still watchable. He made the comment how he thinks he could help Discogs with dead wax info. I would offer production enhancement for a minor or major fee.
@@dburgette7577 I tried using a gimbal type holder with my iPhone and it produced a very good and steady picture but the sound was a disaster. When that issue is solved I may try that again. However, why don't you go to a hi-fi show and do what I do and let's see your result....
"We get 8 percent of every sale." "So are you doing well?" ha ha ha ha What do yah think? Yeah ....I would say so!!! 8% X Gobs of Sales -- Taxes --salaries etc = a Ton of Money!
People who "use the information" get it for free. The company has revenue of $15 million, which is apparently generated by 8% commission from the marketplace sales. The business model is like a credit card company that takes a transaction fee from the seller. Discogs is basically a storefront, paid for by the people selling, if you're just looking it costs you nothing.
@@cheapcheerfulrecordcollect8071 I'm not saying it's not important but they literally provide nothing when it comes to the transaction. They don't offer any kind of support or buyer protection, therefore they should not get a cut of the sale.
No wonder it takes a month to get a decision on anything and why they don’t talk to the users. No fucker works there. Total piss take the percentage they take on post these days. I do hope someone else starts a selling site
Discogs.... the forum was so hostile it put me off the actual facility to buy as I assumed the users would be some of the sellers and hence I wouldn't want to deal with them... it was a shame, I was excited to use it... if it was my baby I would close the forum aspect of make it a separate entity with a different name
Never joined the forum banter for Discogs, but it sounds similar for this channel, as well. As demonstrated below. Any kind of gear forums get pretty volatile quickly and reveal the ages of people, too. From the abbreviated text speak to just plain juvenile snark for those in need of a place to vent their miserable lives.
Forums are awful places just about everywhere and usually filled with misinformation posted by blowhards who call themselves "experts". It's not a Discogs exclusive by any means!
@@AnalogPlanet that's true..I think Discogs looked great but I thought I would use the forum first and see how the land lies so to speak. I'll give the service a go, I just don't recommend the forum but it's the same all over.... on reflection, at the time it put me off using Discogs.... it was just my customer experience and I thought it may be of use or not... Thanks for the reply
@@mubodude it's almost a tragic reflection on humanity... forums... it was quite bad to be fair and it just was a bad advertisement for Discogs... banter is the bain of modern life.... Everything becomes a joke!
no way of telling how many different records have ever been printed . Due to all the private pressings out there . There's records you just don't see , because of their low numbers in circulation .
You are selling to a worldwide market.. Try selling your record locally and you won't find anyone who will pay you a fraction of what you get on discogs.
Discogs is a fantastic resource, Thank You for providing this free service.
As a record collector and a music lover it would be hard to imagine life without Discogs. I order records there multiple times a week. Every week.
Discogs has very important info for buying and collecting music and I hope it keeps on growing for people like me and anyone that is thinking about this hobby.
I hope it gets shut down
@@erdemir5641 chill
@@erdemir5641 we hope you got vaxxx'd
Use this website and store EVERY DAY. LOVE it, and don't know if I could exist without it! Thanks for this!
Discogs a great source for younger people to get educated about vintage vinyl
Discogs is the way I keep my music logged! Love discogs!
Discogs plays a massive part of my hifi and music hobby.
You my friend are the 60 minutes of the you tube
And that’s a good thing
Thank you
I love Discogs
I buy and collect
I had used an excel spread sheet to catalog my collection until I found you! Thank you for this interview!
Kid interviews as good as you do. Great stuff,
CONGRATS ! Amazing achievement - N O T a Little Feat !!! 🇫🇮
Very interesting and informative interview. Malachi asked some fun and interesting questions.
I've never seen a CEO so disinterested in discussing his own business. Like, he clearly want to be elsewhere the entire time.
Haha its true. I guess because its wiki / crowd source biz he has a limited role in it.
i am an end user of both. I buy and sell on ebay for the last 20years and maybe 4 to 5 years buying on Discogs. I love the information on Discogs. Buying and returning or disputes are handled much faster and more professionally on Ebay. Discogs do not have some of the shipping costs listed from the buyers, so you have to wait for them to email back to you, and you can wait for days for the answer, too many times I have. returns are not handled through discogs, discogs has told me that since they don't handle the money they only send emails to each party, with a longer waiting time between. I sometimes just have to do a charge-back from my credit card and that is done right away! If the item, on Ebay, is not as advertised than the seller has to pay for the shipping back to himself, which is usually the cause for a used lp. Discogs has to shorten their dispute times and make sure that all sellers have their shipping costs listed and any bundled discounts. So yes buying and returning and disputing is much quicker on ebay and Discogs should streamline this part of their buyers experience. When I am looking for lps I open two windows, info from discogs and buy it from ebay, unless ebay does not have a NM copy. and discogs can at 20% of the time is much longer to ship their lps. ebay has the rule that items must be shipped in 24hrs or a day or two at most. Discogs I can go through a whole week before the seller ships??? But Discogs has the best info on the different pressings and what the label looks like!
I’d love to see Discogs add whether the source is digital or analog. An inner groove code database would be very useful too. Great interview!
As always Mike, great and interesting video. Thanks for sharing the knowledge my friend.
Integrating the "dead wax" codes into Discogs would be huge in my opinion. I was just emailing you last week about publishing a "field guide" to understanding them.
Tracy Rainwater How do you go about learning the “dead wax” codes?
Paul Forman www.google.com/search?q=vinyl+lp+dead+wax+codes&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Deadwax codes are already integrated into the listings on discogs, they have been since the beginning. The challenge is having all the data entered for every LP that contains inscriptions, they need more contributions.
@@Chris.from.1950 Thanks Chris, This is very helpful. I knew the codes were available on Discogs, but I wanted to know what they mean.
@@derosa1989 Yes, some of the common basic info is there already. What I would like to see is a detailed explanation of the pressing info for some of the major labels. I had asked Mr. Fremer about either writing a booklet, app, of Discogs integration that would easily explain all this. A guy can dream, right? Although, if there were a guide, I bet there would be many who would be willing to buy it if the info is correct. I'm tired of buying records that look clean and scratch-free but don't sound good.
thank you man
Feedback for Mr Lewandowski: I've had far more disappointments with buying vinyl from Discogs than Ebay. The reason, I think, is that at least EBay more or less demands that a photo of the actual item accompanies the listing. Like most experienced buyers I can tell a lot from an image of the record and the cover, irrespective of the stated condition. And at about 8 minutes into this it's pretty clear they don't do a lot at Discogs to help you if you buy a dud. No way would I ever buy expensive rarities without images. I've bought dozens of LPs on Ebay, and other outlets that provide images, in the past year or so, with zero issues and find I no longer bother with Discogs, so if you're reading this Mr Lewandowski, please consider insisting on images of the actual item and not a useless generic one. Until you do I'm probably done with using your service for purchasing. And no, Mr Fremer, Discogs doesn't blow away Ebay for the above reason...
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Photos can be mis-leading and take too much time to upload. If a seller knows how to grade accurately, then I would just trust them.
@@fhussain44 sounds like you're writing defensively from a seller's perspective. I've also had situations where I thought I could trust a seller, based on a positive initial Discogs experience, only to be let down on subsequent purchases. Nothing beats a photo and, frankly, if it's too much bother to upload for a seller, there's another one I don't want to deal with...
I am fine with low dollar purchases ( sub $50 ) without pictures. Depending on reviews of the seller. When it comes to extremely rare costly lps not going to take that leap without detailed pictures.
I messager sellers before I buy item I say if I'm gonna drop 500 to 200 on rare vinly I'm like dog I need them photos man
I didn't realize the founder was that young. I find discogs quite useful as a record collector. Great video. I love this channel and look forward to new videos. I wish there was more record reviews and once in a while some a little less expensive audio equipment reviews. Have a great day, thank you.
update the marketplace to have a shipping calculator like on eBay? Plenty of sellers on Discogs use imaginary postage rates to help recoup the 8% fee, PayPal fee and more lol
Yeah, many of the international rates are ridiculous
@@donjohnson9688 yes, but not rounding it off to the nearest $5 to $10 LOL. That other shipping description most sellers use is: "add $2 to $3 for each additional record"....is all B.S... most of the time, postage wont cost more if the parcel weighs under 2kg / 4.4 lbs....
What a great idea!
I see a change that they lower the price on the records and raise the price on freight costs, as the freight cost doesn't get this 8% fee, if I am right?
This results in "wrong" worth of the record's stats.
Talking about Discogs vs. Ebay, if you have a really valuable record (over $1000) you are more likely to get a higher price on eBay. The really big spenders in the worldwide market tend to go there.
The biggest problem with Discogs is that when you look at a seller’s inventory, and put something in the cart, when you go back, it puts you at the top of the list, so you have to scroll forever to get back to where you were.
Open a duplicate page first then, easy.
I use the app on my phone, so I’m not sure if I can do that, but I like the idea. Anyhow, their revenue is suffering because I can’t be bothered to scroll back to the middle of a list when the seller has 1000s of items.
Discogs is a useful tool for buyers and sellers equally. Although the site is not perfect, as info on releases is sometimes incorrect. Definitely will keep supporting the sellers on the site. The 'bay and the stack are 2nd and 3rd in line....Discogs is #1 in my book.
well that's on you. if you find something incorrect then fix it!
@@XX-121 Why do they have a staff of 80 then when "we" have to do the work? What are these 80 people doing at any given time during their working hours?
@@rabarebra how many people does wikipedia employ? that's user edited too. i just edited a discogs entry last week. if you see something wrong/incorrect FIX IT don't just sit around and complain! is that what you do when you got poop on your butthole? just sit around and cry until mommy comes and wipes it off for you?
@@XX-121 nah, that is not my job
Have to laugh at the irony of the poor audio quality during the interview but I still enjoyed this. Well done.
Thank God for Kevin!
Sounds like a server room in there.
DISCOGS is the greatest thing since sliced bread!!
Thnx for this discogs story
Got to visit your little friend in Oregon . Some reason I expected to see ton's of records at Discgogs . Love Discgogs , found some great records on their site at really good prices .
Next to duct tape, Discogs.com is the greatest invention of all time. "....or at least one of them". Cheers!
However, if you could update the search functionality on the Android app so it's as robust as the website search capabilities. That would be a HUGE help. Fremer's idea about offering some "not so easy to find" educational advice would be great. His example of the "1st pressing" mislabeling is spot on.
Its weird that the interviewer never mentions CDs or Tapes which are also cateloged in Discogs. An invaluable service.
Discogs is truly a unique modern gem.
just as a website alone to search modern artists discography
It. Is. A. God Send.
There are two features I really miss on Discogs. One is the ability to list the official studio albums only, wikipedia is actually better at this. The second is the ability to choose (or exclude) sellers based on the country of origin in the marketplace. Postage is too expensive, so many of us only buy from Europe.
@Factory That's correct, thanks.
A good boss leans on others and gives "the team" credit. Kevin seems like a "good boss".
I started using Discogs in 2007 primarily as a source for information for recordings I already had. Later, I started using Discogs as a middleman for purchasing recordings. To date, I have had no problems with any purchase I have made through Discogs. Again, Discogs is not the merchant so really should not be made to account for purchases made on their site (unless it is false information posted, which they do have in place methods to prevent this). More than looking at Discogs as a store, the amazing thing is the incredible database they have which provides the information which can help someone decide what version of a recording they want to add to their collection. Excellent interview.
"Discogs is not the merchant so really should not be made to account for purchases made on their site" - yet they are taking an 8% commission on every record sold. I think they have a duty of care in that case. Ebay has far better dispute procedures from a buyer perspective.
@@MrCatalysis101 While I understand your desire to hold Discogs to the same (or even close) level of accountability as eBay, the disparity of income between the two alone justifies the diminished ability of Discogs to perform anywhere near as well as eBay. When "M" changes to "B" before "illions", you can do a lot more. It would be interesting to see, if taking into consideration total volume of sales OR looking at record sales alone on eBay, there has been a significant difference in the way things are handled.
I have been on eBay since 2001 and have ordered recordings there as well. I remember receiving a broken LP. The upshot to the whole thing was, "It happens". Here's your payment back. Funny thing...I still didn't have the record (which was a rare one). The seller moved on and you would never know it happened (my complaint means nothing to someone who is ordering something from this seller other than a record). At least with Discogs narrowness of merchandise, its record would have significance to every buyer.
@@AriKona i agree. it seems like most users of discogs are cool people and most likely music lovers such as ourselves. i'm glad ebay exists if for nothing else to keep scam artists and chumps off of discogs.
would really like to know more about the inner dead wax to know what the numberes and letter mean !
First, (if you haven't already done so) sign up with Discogs.com and go to their forum area. There are a huge number of members who can offer guidance in decoding the matrix/runout data in the dead wax area. To my knowledge, there's no real "How to decipher... by XXX" book out on the market that you can pick up and use to train yourself. It's basically a "learn-as-you-go" and an "accumulate-and-grow" experience - at least that's been my limited experience.
You should also watch Michael Fremer's RUclips video RMAF13: Deciphering dead wax letters, numbers and squiggles.
Michael - store inventory turns of new vinyl would be the way to determine if the sales stats are off. If they’re pressed, they’re shipped so they can’t just fall into ether..net!
An interesting interview, looks like the founder is not really that devoted to music he is more of a website developer.
What? He was a DJ for goodness sake. How is that not someone devoted to music?
@@merlinmediagroup He doesn't understand or bother with matrix codes.
Great video. Nice that young boy get into record collecting.
Watch the other videos on this channel featuring him. You’ll enjoy!
That "young boy" is another Michael Fremer in the making.
Hey Michael and Kevin, the very first vinyl record I ever owned was The Beatles 45 Help!/I'm Down. It was released in the USA on July 19, 1965, which happened to be my 10th birthday. My mom and dad gave me a record player for my birthday and on the same day took me to the record store and said, "You can have one record. Pick one out." Of course, being a Beatles fan, I wanted the brand new release, Help!, which they were already playing like crazy on AM radio. I loved the sleeve, too. I ended up literally playing it hundreds and possibly thousands of times. Over the years, I don't know what happened to my original copy of the 45 of Help! So, after I discovered Discogs, I ordered that record, original 1965 45 of Help! with 'very good' sleeve. I received it in great condition and it is in the Nirvana Section of my vinyl collection, which is pretty large and serious, including all genres. Over the years, I've owned thousands of vinyl albums. Thanks for having a service that provided me with something very, very special to me (sentimentally).
multiverser my very first new rock record too, I was 9
@@Onteo1 Cool!
multiverser I still have it and it didn’t come with the picture sleeve, just Capitol company sleeve. I had just been to the movie and needed it. Next one I got was A hard days night. Not sure how or where but it was still available and this time the picture sleeve.
@@Onteo1 I'm very certain my first one had the picture sleeve, the Fab Four on the beach. It was at a large department store called Giant (similar to a Super Target) of today.
What's the background noise?
Sounds like standing in a server room.
IMO, the best way to describe Discogs is: the wikipedia of vinyl records, with a marketplace on the side.
Selling to yourself happens a lot in the painters business, to drive up the price of their works. It's a form of speculation.
A river running through it ?
That's what she said...
All the heavy hitters are here!
Excellent & entertaining
How about adding looking at Steve Hoffman sites to see what the desirable release is
I love this.
Allmusic was the first to have a database but it didn't get into specific pressings and focused more on opinionated album reviews with just track listing and credits.
. . and Allmusic partial track listening/preview in most of the cases. Is it more suitable compared to discogs RUclips implementation (from which some - actually just a few - of the videos are gone) ? I guess it's good to have both options. Also, some of the reviews on discogs did help me too. Thanks to both!
WHERE can i contact kevin its an emergency and need to speak with him ANYONE KNOW?
Hope you had a chance to visit some Portland’s fine Hi Fi stores. Particularly Echo Audio. Those folks are doing it right.
Vinyl resurgence will be huge in the digital age, go figure
Just got done entering 1500, 78 records i got 2 years ago, rangeing from 1910 to 1955 they had no covers most where found on discogs i was able to id the dates, music styles, and ratings to compare with my reviews very helpful in cataloging this very random mess. Also some videos. I have only listened to about 300 so far. So far kept 1500 out of 5000.
Just a note to all look at the feedback of the seller just like ebay and lots of dealers have deals on shipping like the first album is 5$ the rest is free or 4.00 and only 1$ per album after you buy the first one so look at the offers from the dealers before you buy I recently bought from a dealer got 5 albums and a cd for 21$ all play great
So many negative comments - lets face it discogs is great they should continue doing what they do - you don't like the p&P or commission then go use Ebay.
My one criticism of Discogs is that, as a busy person, I sometimes miss communications from vendors. Messages from vendors are saved on Discogs with no notification to the buyer. It would help tremendously if a buyer received an email telling them that there are messages waiting. Because I have missed several vendor communication, I’ve received negative feedback - depressing.
Patrick Case this is a feature. Don’t know where to point you off the top of my head, but I use it.
Until Discogs has sellers post photos of actual items for sale and not generic pics, the site will stay second fiddle to eBay. Photos are a must, as most sellers don't know how to grade records. Many times, photos can expose flaws that sellers do not see or list. Unfortunate, as there is a lot to like about Discogs. Must go the extra step.
AWESOME
I can't figure out how to make payments or how to trust a seller.
Only buy from sellers with 99.7% or higher positive reviews. And read all the neutral and negative feedback to see any pattern of over-grading..
@@fhussain44 yes I agree I have bought on discogs fron a few with a big inventory with 99% positive feedback no problems it's the same with ebay look at the feedback
I signed up for DISCOGS months ago and I loved the site.. UNTIL they changed something a month or so ago and I got bombarded by basically demands for accepting cookies when I logged in. I say demand because when I decline (And I have to go through multiple clicks to decline each batch of cookies, no pun intended) I get the same demand over and over again requiring I go through the same time consuming decline of each set of cookies. I clicked on a small link in the extended page of that cookie acceptance demand and there is a list of all the cookies "third party venders" will be putting on your computer. The list is MASSIVE! More than 100 so called vender cookies will be placed into your system if you accept. Now DISCOGS declares your privacy protection in THEIR site but these third party cookies... Are they restricted to gathering data ONLY from your use of the DISCOGS site? Are they gathering your data ALL the time? DISCOGS would not answer. I am currently trying to gather info on the over 100 cookies that DISCOGS wants to put on our computers and identify the companies behind the cookies. I will no longer use DISCOGS as they won't publish the list of the third party cookies and define what data these cookies gather and when and what protections we as users have from these third parties. We pay for anti-virus and anti-spying software and here is a company wanting you to allow actual spying on you by over 100 third parties. Sorry no thanks. My bet is on the cookie request window if DISCOGS stated "we will be putting more than 100 "third party" cookies on your system" most people would say "NO." So DISCOGS does not spell that out. Napster was once a pretty cool site when it started then it quickly became the internet whore where you picked up viruses and spyware left and right. DISCOGS is not following a policy or government regulation when giving third parties access to their customers online information. They are selling that access to their customer's online information. DISCOGS has not denied that to me the multiple times I have contacted them.
Nothing in this world is safe. Use a condom.
If you upgrade some gear , camera and audio, this Channel will get much better. Nevertheless always great work with much love for our spinning friends.Walk on
Mikey , Put your whole collection on Discgogs , you'll be an instant multi millionaire .
I love Discogs but it definitely has it's shortcomings. I made my collection public, over 450 records, and the only thing my visitors can see is other peoples records, all for sale (I'm not selling), in no apparent order and no way to search or filter. Did I mention over 450 records? And mine is a rather small collection. I decided to make my own website. The community is wonderful, definitely a great website for research, but the platform I think needs some major improvements.
i can see your colletion, now 544records, and i can sort by Artist or Title or Label or Catalog or Added or Format or Year and Rating. what you mention are copies for sale in the marketplace if it is up for sale. i'm not sure what the problem is.
only thing that needs major improvement is your attitude. there are plenty of people that love discogs. if you don't like it don't use it. and what you said doesn't make any sense anyway as @Zombieflesheater ZFE said. you can sort lists however you want just click on however you want to sort things. do you computer much?
Was the interview done in a wind tunnel?
Looks and sounds like they're BIG fans of ventilation over there.
Do the best we can under difficult acoustical conditions
My records are listed and tracked in excel. I’d love an interface to upload the list to my Discogs list. The thought of retyping all of that has put me off from doing it.
Chances are you won't be typing much if at all since the items you own are most likely already in the Discogs database. All you'll need to do is click "Add to Collection".
@@zippyphonic Spent a month adding 300 records. When there is so much wrong in the database and it is hell to find the correct matrix codes, THIS takes time. And I am not talking about adding "new" records to the database, but existing ones. How to add a new/old record I have no clue as it is a jungle of forms to fill out, and I do not understand half of it. I like the database, though.
I dislike websites making profits while using contributors work, submissions, knowledge...
Hi Michael, this was broadcast on NPR / 1A earlier this morning. Check out the audio interview. the1a.org/shows/2019-05-02/revenge-of-analog
How can a music man make so horrible sound background on a video???
Awesome Video! But Please fix the damn app Discogs!!!
I like to buy music and books. If I have any money left over I can buy food and try to catch up on bills!
Digital World!
they do have the deadwax information on the database Michael
He didn't say it wasn't there, but it is too often not used correctly by those who list records, if they list the matrix codes at all - too often there is no code. Way too often they think they have a 1st pressing, when it is a 2nd, 3rd or 4th pressing. Everyone wants their records to be a 1st pressing it seems.
I've heard this over and over from buyers, that 1st pressings is not really understood properly. I think it is too complicated for people to list the matrix code correctly.
Michael Fremer is spot on.
It's a bit ramshackle to me listening I can see why the reviews are vague and the selling end is open to scallywags
P.s Miky, your reviews are turned off on your Analog site??? Nothing can be posted?
What?
Unfortunately my first experience with Discogs turned out to be bad!
Some guy with great reviews for at least a couple of years turned out to be fraudster. Luckily my credit card company refunded my money but it took a while before that user was to be removed. He got like 30 other folks in the same month.
No bueno.
There was a thing called phonolog back in the day
Yeah, but it was huge, outdated, and no fun to use :)
I have a 0 rating on discogs because I haven't bought and sold stuff yet! Right now I just use it for cataloging! But every time I try to buy, I can't because I don't meet the sellers requirements! 🙄
Ebay used to be a great place to buy records, but discogs has hurt the ebay record business. As a record collector, I much prefer the auction format, so this has been a quite negative development for me.
Why can't you use both?
@@JustinBenn The auction format favors the buyer, when its done the way ebay does it. No bargains on discogs.
@@psag8216 Oh well. More for me! ;^)
A basement dweller, that’s me. Middle, older middle aged.
Impossible to watch with all background noise, i gave up after 5 min
Seems like Michael kept interrupting him while he was trying to answer his question, making him cut off mid sentence and going on to another question without finishing what he was saying before. Kinda annoying for an interview but I get it in a friendly conversation setting.
DISCOGS...Is there a possibility to record EVERY master tapes in the record companies vaults on discogs...that would be awesome and very helpful. Also a branch from Discogs called SESSIONOGS...There is nothing on the net that really informs Companies and collectors of ARTISTS sessions. It would also keep records in case of destroying the originals. Think about it. I have made a template to fill in information of my fav artist Connie Francis from 1955>. Great keep up the good work....from Greece
So there's these things called microphones. You put one on the interviewee and plug it into the camera or a recording device and the audio is better.
Have you seen much of Fremer's camera work in the past (Especially trade shows). Holy shaky camera headache, batman. Production isn't his strong suit. Information and story telling is. Story is always the king in video, so it makes his content still watchable. He made the comment how he thinks he could help Discogs with dead wax info. I would offer production enhancement for a minor or major fee.
I had no trouble hearing anything or anyone clearly. No, they're not isolated, but it's totally fine quality for a 25 min video in a shop. IMHO
Robert Ober so there is a stereo shotgun mic plugged into the camcorder
@@dburgette7577 I tried using a gimbal type holder with my iPhone and it produced a very good and steady picture but the sound was a disaster. When that issue is solved I may try that again. However, why don't you go to a hi-fi show and do what I do and let's see your result....
@@mubodude I agree. The audio is OK with me. The content is great!!
No pics of actual album means one has to trust seller, NOT GOOD Mr Lewandowski!
That’s what the feedback system is there for though. Buy from sellers with good feedback and the risks are minimal.
Just message seller for photos I do bro
"We get 8 percent of every sale." "So are you doing well?" ha ha ha ha What do yah think? Yeah ....I would say so!!! 8% X Gobs of Sales -- Taxes --salaries etc = a Ton of Money!
$50 millions
Wow they make 15 mill off of people that use the information on the site THAT IS SUPPLIED BY THE SAME PEOPLE.
Lee Clayton - But they support 80 people and provide a very important, at least to many of us, service.
Well, once you pay 80 people, rent a couple of large offices, pay insurance and utilities, buy supplies, etc, etc, there probably isn't much left.
People who "use the information" get it for free. The company has revenue of $15 million, which is apparently generated by 8% commission from the marketplace sales. The business model is like a credit card company that takes a transaction fee from the seller. Discogs is basically a storefront, paid for by the people selling, if you're just looking it costs you nothing.
They should take less than 8%
@@cheapcheerfulrecordcollect8071 I'm not saying it's not important but they literally provide nothing when it comes to the transaction. They don't offer any kind of support or buyer protection, therefore they should not get a cut of the sale.
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Zero Freitas
No wonder it takes a month to get a decision on anything and why they don’t talk to the users. No fucker works there. Total piss take the percentage they take on post these days. I do hope someone else starts a selling site
Discogs.... the forum was so hostile it put me off the actual facility to buy as I assumed the users would be some of the sellers and hence I wouldn't want to deal with them... it was a shame, I was excited to use it... if it was my baby I would close the forum aspect of make it a separate entity with a different name
Never joined the forum banter for Discogs, but it sounds similar for this channel, as well. As demonstrated below. Any kind of gear forums get pretty volatile quickly and reveal the ages of people, too. From the abbreviated text speak to just plain juvenile snark for those in need of a place to vent their miserable lives.
Forums are awful places just about everywhere and usually filled with misinformation posted by blowhards who call themselves "experts". It's not a Discogs exclusive by any means!
@@AnalogPlanet that's true..I think Discogs looked great but I thought I would use the forum first and see how the land lies so to speak. I'll give the service a go, I just don't recommend the forum but it's the same all over.... on reflection, at the time it put me off using Discogs.... it was just my customer experience and I thought it may be of use or not... Thanks for the reply
@@mubodude it's almost a tragic reflection on humanity... forums... it was quite bad to be fair and it just was a bad advertisement for Discogs... banter is the bain of modern life.... Everything becomes a joke!
Forums are for weird people with no social antenna. I also met this hostile community there, and never used it again.
no way of telling how many different records have ever been printed . Due to all the private pressings out there . There's records you just don't see , because of their low numbers in circulation .
private (read bootlegs) doesn't count. I always look at those as mediocre and fraud products.
allow bootlegs again!
Discogs actually fucking sucks.
Holy crap! They charge an 8% commission on everything they sell? There sure are a lot of suckers in this world.
Ebay is higher, about 10%.
You are selling to a worldwide market.. Try selling your record locally and you won't find anyone who will pay you a fraction of what you get on discogs.
Yeah, you should take out an ad in the newspaper to sell your records instead!
Lol 😂 I sold a CD for $200 dollar's got it a sold in a day or so ebay never got it sold so its worth it!