After using Kemper for years and a brief and regrettable dalliance with a Quad Cortex, I couldn't be happier with the dual ToneX pedal rig I have now. Solid, reliable, sounds just as good as anything else on the market, and having two lets me use profiled drives into profiled amps and acts as its own complete live backup. The lengthy profiling process can be a pain, but the results are worth it in my opinion.
Your GPU is to blame for "lenghty profiling process". You need an Nvidia GPU with CUDA cores. With my old GTX 1660ti it takes no more than 5 minutes to make a capture on default mode, 15 minutes on advanced mode.
Great playing, great examples too. Like the higher chord on Big City Nights could be revealing, but I didn't hear it. I had spent a bunch of time trying to get tonex to capture right, and never figured out why it never sounded right to me. Like in general, get a mic'd amp tone I like, then run through the interface and back out to the reamp box, and sometimes putting something in there to mess with the gain, but at that point alone, it doesn't sound feel like the amp plugged straight in. So kind of a compromise there, then the capture itself would be another step away from the original, and I'd just wind up with what I thought was a great tone to a capture I would never want to play. Tried a few di's some high end ones, reamp box was a radial, interface was rme ufx3. I gave up after about a week. Your captures sounded great though.
Thanks for your kind words! I'm using a Little Labs Redeye 3D Phantom (DI and Reamp Box) instead of running the guitar straight into the interface - doing it that way seems to make it sound a little more realistic to me, but yeah I get what you're saying - same here. I ran those captures several times to get where I ended up. Thanks for watching!
Love watching your videos man. 👍 Almost sounds like something is clipping on the tonex capture, it is collapsing a bit compared to the real amp/cab. Maybe its just YT compressing it or my headphones crapping out though 😆
FYI, The processing is depending on an Nvidia graphics cards cuda cores. Any other platform uses the CPU of the system and is considerably slower. In my system I used to have a Radeon card and my processing time got MUCH faster after switching to a lower model Nvidia card as a test. As a result I left the Nvidia card in. If you have access to an Nvidia system you should try it out.
Yes - it's definitely because of me not having an Nvidia card - on a Mac I got what I got. Sucks that capture training is slower but everything else I'm doing works great so guess I just gotta deal with it. Thank you for watching!
is there a limiter in the video editor sound output ? thaty's what I notice , some limitng happening. Awesome video , Tonex seems a great tool to use pre-captured tones.
I did use a limiter in Logic (where I record the audio) on the guitar track but I only used that to boost the output signal - watching the graph the limiting never actually kicked in. That said, though, I notice it too. Perhaps it's YouTUbe's compression? I have it set to around -1db peak. Perhaps that has the LUFS too high & RUclips is squashing it a little? Just a thought. Thank you for watching!
I follow the guidelines with default for clean/moderate and advanced for fuzzy/high gain. But it only takes about 20 mins for advanced on my computer 🤷♂️
I was really surprised with the results I got. I like that I can used the Default level and get good results. Yeah the training time is a downside of being on a Mac - really the first one I've encountered. No biggie though, default is quick enough for me. Thank you for watching!
Ok i see a lot of folks are still confused about the capture processing time, including the author of this video. Your CPU is irrelevant, so if you have something like Mac ultra M1 or whatever it's called, it will be outperfromed by a decade old PC, as long as the PC has an Nvidia GPU with CUDA cores, and Mac doesn't. You need to have an Nvidia graphics card with CUDA cores in order to speed up the capturing process signifcantly. I have an Nvidia GTX 1660ti, which is an old gpu. Deafult mode takes 5 minutes on my PC, advanced 15 minutes, It's as simple as that.
I don’t think I said anything to contradict that. My mention of my CPU was solely because it’s a system on a chip, not a separate video card, and it was mentioned because it was relevant. I understand that with an NVidia card with CUDA cores the time is drastically reduced. Just wasn’t relevant to my case. I apologize for any confusion. Thank you for watching.
It took me a while to find my way around. There are still some things I don’t understand. Might make a video about that next week. Thank you for watching!
@@TheGuitarNerdShow if you could explain to me how I can do something as simple as preview an amp capture without the software and the hardware tone playing back at the same time, that would be awesome!
do your self a favor and save your money and buy a quad cortex... It will capture far better in 5 minutes. and what is up with not listing the delay in your signal chain??
Totally disagree. One of the apparent disadvantages of the Tonex of not being an intergrated system is actually one of its positives, because if you have high end audio interfaces anyway (as many people do), then you can use them and not be stuck with the lower quality ones in the Quad Cortex. And even if you don't, you can guarantee that a lot of the studios sharing profiles do and so their offerings will have the highest fidelity to the amps. Anyone wanting the best wouldn't use any of the effects in these devices anyway. So the only disadvantage is time, and although our time is valuable, waiting an hour for a higher quality capture is nothing more than a minor inconvenience.
Killer sound, I just got the tone one and I just can't believe the dammed thing. Wish I had this in 1989
Oh man! I can’t imagine how cool that would have been! What a great time to be a guitar player!!!!!
Thank you for watching!
After using Kemper for years and a brief and regrettable dalliance with a Quad Cortex, I couldn't be happier with the dual ToneX pedal rig I have now. Solid, reliable, sounds just as good as anything else on the market, and having two lets me use profiled drives into profiled amps and acts as its own complete live backup. The lengthy profiling process can be a pain, but the results are worth it in my opinion.
Right on! I bet that sounds killer!
Thank you for watching!
Your GPU is to blame for "lenghty profiling process". You need an Nvidia GPU with CUDA cores. With my old GTX 1660ti it takes no more than 5 minutes to make a capture on default mode, 15 minutes on advanced mode.
Great playing, great examples too. Like the higher chord on Big City Nights could be revealing, but I didn't hear it.
I had spent a bunch of time trying to get tonex to capture right, and never figured out why it never sounded right to me. Like in general, get a mic'd amp tone I like, then run through the interface and back out to the reamp box, and sometimes putting something in there to mess with the gain, but at that point alone, it doesn't sound feel like the amp plugged straight in. So kind of a compromise there, then the capture itself would be another step away from the original, and I'd just wind up with what I thought was a great tone to a capture I would never want to play. Tried a few di's some high end ones, reamp box was a radial, interface was rme ufx3. I gave up after about a week. Your captures sounded great though.
Thanks for your kind words! I'm using a Little Labs Redeye 3D Phantom (DI and Reamp Box) instead of running the guitar straight into the interface - doing it that way seems to make it sound a little more realistic to me, but yeah I get what you're saying - same here. I ran those captures several times to get where I ended up.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheGuitarNerdShow Thanks. I hope you took some notes how you arrived at your captures because they really sounded pretty convincing to me.
Love watching your videos man. 👍 Almost sounds like something is clipping on the tonex capture, it is collapsing a bit compared to the real amp/cab. Maybe its just YT compressing it or my headphones crapping out though 😆
Thanks for your kind words. Yeah I hear it too. I THINK it's YT compression but I can't be sure.
Thank you for watching!
Great tone! Are these captures available for download?
Yes, they're on Tone Net.
FYI, The processing is depending on an Nvidia graphics cards cuda cores. Any other platform uses the CPU of the system and is considerably slower. In my system I used to have a Radeon card and my processing time got MUCH faster after switching to a lower model Nvidia card as a test. As a result I left the Nvidia card in. If you have access to an Nvidia system you should try it out.
Yes - it's definitely because of me not having an Nvidia card - on a Mac I got what I got. Sucks that capture training is slower but everything else I'm doing works great so guess I just gotta deal with it.
Thank you for watching!
is there a limiter in the video editor sound output ? thaty's what I notice , some limitng happening. Awesome video , Tonex seems a great tool to use pre-captured tones.
I did use a limiter in Logic (where I record the audio) on the guitar track but I only used that to boost the output signal - watching the graph the limiting never actually kicked in. That said, though, I notice it too. Perhaps it's YouTUbe's compression? I have it set to around -1db peak. Perhaps that has the LUFS too high & RUclips is squashing it a little? Just a thought.
Thank you for watching!
I follow the guidelines with default for clean/moderate and advanced for fuzzy/high gain. But it only takes about 20 mins for advanced on my computer 🤷♂️
I was really surprised with the results I got. I like that I can used the Default level and get good results.
Yeah the training time is a downside of being on a Mac - really the first one I've encountered. No biggie though, default is quick enough for me.
Thank you for watching!
Ok i see a lot of folks are still confused about the capture processing time, including the author of this video. Your CPU is irrelevant, so if you have something like Mac ultra M1 or whatever it's called, it will be outperfromed by a decade old PC, as long as the PC has an Nvidia GPU with CUDA cores, and Mac doesn't. You need to have an Nvidia graphics card with CUDA cores in order to speed up the capturing process signifcantly. I have an Nvidia GTX 1660ti, which is an old gpu. Deafult mode takes 5 minutes on my PC, advanced 15 minutes, It's as simple as that.
I don’t think I said anything to contradict that. My mention of my CPU was solely because it’s a system on a chip, not a separate video card, and it was mentioned because it was relevant. I understand that with an NVidia card with CUDA cores the time is drastically reduced. Just wasn’t relevant to my case. I apologize for any confusion.
Thank you for watching.
ToneX delivers excellent amp captures, but their software is woeful. Not fit for purpose.
It took me a while to find my way around. There are still some things I don’t understand. Might make a video about that next week.
Thank you for watching!
@@TheGuitarNerdShow if you could explain to me how I can do something as simple as preview an amp capture without the software and the hardware tone playing back at the same time, that would be awesome!
default
It's surprising how good default sounds.
Thanks for watching!
do your self a favor and save your money and buy a quad cortex... It will capture far better in 5 minutes. and what is up with not listing the delay in your signal chain??
Check my channel. I own a QC, love it and have done several videos on it.
Totally disagree. One of the apparent disadvantages of the Tonex of not being an intergrated system is actually one of its positives, because if you have high end audio interfaces anyway (as many people do), then you can use them and not be stuck with the lower quality ones in the Quad Cortex. And even if you don't, you can guarantee that a lot of the studios sharing profiles do and so their offerings will have the highest fidelity to the amps.
Anyone wanting the best wouldn't use any of the effects in these devices anyway. So the only disadvantage is time, and although our time is valuable, waiting an hour for a higher quality capture is nothing more than a minor inconvenience.