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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Today we do a quick test comparing the New Stihl MSA 220 C Battery Powered Chainsaw again the MS 250. The initial results are very surprising to me. Either saw would make a decent firewood saw.
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Hey Mike. Great video. I have a local tree company do all my trimming and tree care. I needed a large triple trunk birch taken down and four other large trees trimmed. They show up and the climbers have 12 in battery saws. They use them for everything till they get the tree down to 8 inch diameter or more. They have chargers and a coupla extra batteries in their trucks. They took that triple trunk 40 foot birch down and ran their gas saw less than ten minutes. All the trimming was battery saws. Quiet, fast and they said less vibration and easy to handle. Oh, when the battery ran out, the ground guy threw one in an equipment bag and the trimmer roped it up. Refueling time...ten seconds. Was very impressed.
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I bought a MS250 with an 18” bar. Brand new at Boonville last August. Paid $139 plus tax. I’ve got 2 250’s now. Love them. One is on my skidder tractor permanently used daily. They are real fuel misers. Oldest 250 has cut over 1000 cord with no issues. I’ve got a MS660 mag, 2, MS250’s an 038 Mag and a 038 “Outlaw saw”. Guess you can say “I’m a man of STIHL”. Only thing I don’t like about the 250 is the .325 chain one way or another I’m changing the rim sprocket to a .375 chain. Nice video Mike.
I replaced my ancient Homelite with a Makita battery model. No regrets. I got tired of having to rebuild the carb every year.
I bought the MSA 220 battery saw in January and used it to cut down 15 trees between 1 and 2,5 feet in diameter. I also own the 12" chainsaw, the polesaw, the blower, the weed wacker, and the lawn mower along with several batteries and the charger. While the 12" chainsaw was respectable, this new saw make it look like a toy. Battery life is ok (using the older AP300 battery). I bought one of the AP300S batteries and will use it this weekend. The MSA 220 is great for farm use - particularly for cleaning up fence lines, removing dead trees, and dealing with storm damage. Having a spare battery helps. Eliminating all of the headaches of gas saws and ease of use are major pluses.
Thanks for the comparison. I use the MSA 200 with the 14in bar and 1/4in chain. Mount on the back of my snowmobile for trail maintenance, no problem working in the cold. Always carry an extra battery. I also have the MS 362 with the 20in bar for the bigger trees. The battery version is great for the stop, cut and go.😃
We have the 200 and I bought it for my wife but it's VERY capable. I'm looking at purchasing this MSA220 now
I've got the EGO 18" electric saw. Saw with a 5Ah battery was $350. I've used it for cutting honeysuckle, cleaning up windfall trees and felling a few small cherry trees (12inch dia.). Works like a charm. Starts fast, Cuts fast, quiet, no exhaust, no heat, and I can use it inside a garage or shed without ventilation. I do a lot of walking to get around my land, so it's nice to be able to throw the batteries in a backpack and go. I haven't drained the battery yet, even cutting for a few 2-3 hour stretches. I've got an extra 5Ah battery from my lawnmower, so I've got lots of power on hand.
Great vid, Mike. I have the DeWalt 16" bar, 40v 7.5 Amp Hr. equivalent and love it. We use it for everything here in Colorado, and it's amazing on remodeling projects, like trimming framing indoors (working in crawlspaces, attics, etc.) when a gas saw would be a nightmare (building decks, etc.) No need for fuel stabilizer, hearing protection; no worries about having room to pull the starter rope in cramped spaces, etc. Too many advantages to list, really. Just as fast as my Stihl saws, and use narrower-kerf chains.
I have been using the Stihl MS290 Farm boss for over twenty years. Lately I have been doing some tree trimming with a Hydraulic saw. When my Stihl broke down, I was waiting for parts, I hooked up the Hydraulic saw to my wood splitter. It was a lot nicer not to ever run out of gas and oil, with endless power. Hydraulic hoses are a huge limitation. For all that I do the electric saw makes the most sense.
wow I was shocked by the battery saw. Also on another note I just ordered a Wolfe Ridge high output 35HO SPLITTER and I have to thank you for assisting me in deciding which way to go. after watching all you videos I was able to make an informed decision on the splitter I wanted. Thanks Mike
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Hi there I have a E/saw that i find very handy. what you didn't compare(to me ) is the getting the gas saw started and wormed up a bit . the time it takes to start the gas saw the E/saw would be a ways threw the log . I use my E/saw where starting and stoping is done a lot i.e. clearing trails .I like both gas and E/saws they both have a place at my house . john
Here in the UK , the MSA 220 with two batteries and charger cost £875 . The AP 300 battery lasts about 45 minutes. Can’t see the MS 250 in the new Stihl catalogue, but the MS 251 costs £585 and if you use Aspen fuel , you don’t have to worry about petrol going stale. I know which one I prefer. Have a good day. 👍
I have been operating a MS250 for the last 5 years and like the little saw. That electric saw looks quite impressive. Especially times when you have to stop and start your saw repeatedly the electric would be the way to go. If you need to operate a chainsaw indoors like a shop, or if your in a tree, if you want to do some work early in the morning and you do not want to disturb your neighbours then the electric would excel. The problem is that most only want to own one saw so opt for gasoline because of tradition and those times they want to be out all day cutting. Good video and demo of the electric saw. Electric yard equipment is certainly closing the gap and I believe will get there.
Have to agree with everything you say Mike. I bought a Ryobi (please the gods, forgive me) 14 inch brushless saw a couple of years ago. I also got their string trimmer with pole saw attachment by another maker. All use the same battery and the combined price is still a little cheaper than the Stihl. I've used it for a couple of years now and can't find any fault with it. I use the saw to drop the pine trees I have everywhere and use the pole saw to limb them before chipping. Works great and with 3 batteries, I can work continuously if I keep one battery on the charger. I'd probably upgrade to Stihl if I was doing this every day but, for part time use, the Ryobi does fine. The reduced noise is also a major benefit - don't feel as tired after doing the same amount of work.
flick22601 ryobi has come a long way nothing wrong with there tools. Actually for a homeowner the price comparison and amount of tools one battery style can run its a no brainer. They also offer the best deals and specials to. Cheers
flick22601 on Home Depot’s website there’s been special running for ryobi by 2 battery’s and charger for $89 and get a free tool there’s about 8 different tools great if needing couple extra batteries. It’s online only under the deals of the day section cheers
Love It - “M to the 3rd Power” AND cute exit too! These two were great and giving those Carolina & Brit accents a run!
The 220 is impressive, but here in Canada the MS 250 is $400 whereas the 220 costs $489 plus $109 for the charger and $229 for the 300-size battery. At that price you can pick up an MS 261, or a 250 with a heck of a lot of fuel, oil, chains and carb kits. For now I'll keep my MS 250. Still an impressive electric option here, and parts are likely going to be available unlike Milwaukee and Dewalt's saws.
I do agree about convenience, and since I only use my saw a dozen times a year, just popping a battery in and cutting away sounds great.
Into my second season with a Stihl msa200. It's the second AP battery powered tool I have. The other is a hedge trimmer. I definitely think homeowners and other occasional users will love the ease of maintenance of the Stihl battery powered tools. Love mine
Hi Mike, You don't look anymore distracted driving down the road than if you had a passenger you were talking to. It's really enjoyable to see the scenery out the window , like getting a tour of where you live compared to west coast or high desert country that I live in. Keep it up. Thanks for working so hard on daily videos.
These batteries and electric tools have come a long way. Hard to replace the feel and sound of a gas saw, it has a soul!
I hear this about gasoline cars that have manual transmissions. Fine. But please how does a petrol chainsaw have SOUL?? Lol
Not surprised by the results. The only two issues I have is 1st those batteries are expensive 2nd battery power saw doesn't seem as robust. God bless
Mike , I think everyone should buy the first pro model chain saw line up ! I have a 1981 Jonsered 70 e that still runs like a champ ! I've rebuilt the carb twice at a cost of 60.00 ! I only cut 7 cords of wood a year & also that saw has cut 200,000 ' of logs ! My friends have had 6 chain saws to my One , I don't think that's saving money ! Plus you have a saw that cuts two times as fast ! I don't know , I might be wrong ?
I have Stihl 390 and Husqy 450, but use the Dewalt 60Vmax with a 16" bar most often. I don't need an extra battery because it lasts longer than I do most of the time and I put it on the charger when I'm done. It's just so convenient when I'm clearing and using the saw a few minutes at a time several times per hour, since it's grab, cut, and move on. No starting and shutting off the gas powered saw.
Nice work mike. Your right, the battery powered does have its place. Perfect to take on a weekend or few day camping trip. Pack it right in the truck and no stink of gas/fumes.
I bought my Stihl electric saw originally to clean around my tree stands and leave in my side by side to clean trails. I now use it at my LT40 sawmill to cut knots and cut flitches in half. It won’t replace my power saws but it sure is handy!
Mike, I think the battery powered saw is perfect for the homeowner that has to occassionally use one for trimming or like you said storm damage clean up. Or carry one in your RV to cut campfire wood.
Thanks for doing the comparison. Something worth mentioning - the gas saw can be refilled in a minute or less. Electric not so much, unless you don’t mind having 3 or 4 batteries plugged in to 3 or 4 chargers. Both gas and electric have clutter that goes with them. For myself, I will keep my gas saw and the price difference.
critical-thought yeah the electric one starts to get a bit more expensive if you are planning on doing a lets say 6 hour day. But you still should be fine with 2 batteries and one charger. The other one on the charger, the other one in the saw :)
That’s about right. I own a MS250 and it’s been a frustrating ownership. It feels underpowered for the size saw it is and has been problematic. After fighting with it to cut down a 15” white oak, I brought home a M18 chainsaw to cut it up for firewood and was thoroughly impressed. It felt like it cut faster and smoother than my Stihl. Maybe soon battery saws and batteries will come down in price, that’s what I believe the main reason less people have looked at battery saws.
Hey Mike, that was a great test but I would like to suggest that you put a 16" bar on the 250 and do another test. You might be surprised. Have a day!
That's what I was wondering. But the electric seems like it had more torque
@@Stihl4life, That's the comparison I want to see, same bar lengths, brand new chains and both saws having the same torque rating regardless of size or price.
When I bought my ms250 I made the dealer put a 16" bar on it instead of the 18". It cuts way better with a 16, and if you really want it to cut fast put a 16" 3/8 picco on it
@@philipthayer2737 I did the same thing. I square grind my pick. I keep my 250 in the truck tool box mostly for trees that blow down on the roads here.
Greetings from No. VT (temporarily exiled to FL so my wonderful wife can have a warm weather respite) - I m constantly blown away at how much battery technology has really come a long way and has the potential to be even more usable in new applications!!
Heads up . If you're considering stilh battery power and possibly the 220 , you might want to future proof yourself ( re possible 220 purchase) by buying the S battery because the 220 really needs the S battery
Hard to find prices but it looks like the electric saw, battery and charger would run $550-$600. You can buy a pretty big gas saw for that!
Nope, not anymore. $100 difference here in Australia.
Horses for courses though - the battery saws make a lot more sense for some uses, like clearing tracks, cutting smaller loads of firewood, especially if you need to do those things while you’re traveling.
I also think there’s a lot of merit to them for storm cleanup. For me, dealing with 2 stroke just wasn’t worth it.
If I was cutting a lot of firewood, or had a bigger property I’d probably invest in a husky 372 or similar.
The thing is, once you have bought the battery and charger, you can use them with any of your stihl battery products. That in turn makes the price a lot more reasonable, since you only need that one battery and charger
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I pay 450 Euros here in Portugal for the battery chainsaw sthil 220, plus 170 Euros for one battery 300 S, and 55 Euros for the charger this i buy the cheap one and is a disaster take almost 4 hours to charge the batteriy. Is not that I am not happy with saw but I always need to have gas one next to me because battery not last long.
i have to say i like "the yard" as opposed to "the renewable energy processing center".
Nice video. Noise is deceptive, isn't it? We're so accustomed to noise = power.
I used to have a 35cc Tanaka trimmer (pro trimmer) and said to myself the next time it needed an expensive repair i'd ditch it.
I went with the commercial EGO battery line trimmer.
It's so much better. It barely ever bogs down.
It has a two-speed switch (the trigger is still variable so the switch kid of acts like a gear) and at first, I was convinced the low speed was doing nothing (so quiet) so I'd put it on full speed.
After I while I got used to the (lack of) noise and that the low speed was absolutely fine. I almost never use the high speed now so I get about 20-30mins trimming and have 2 other batteries charging on the go. I never run out of power.
EGO has an 11,000RPM out now (the equivalent of 40cc) and GreenWorks have also released a battery saw that is equivalent to a 55cc saw. Thangs are moving fast in the battery world.
Does the saw come with a battery or is it sold separately? How long will they work?
That's what I want to know, how much for two batteries and charger.
Let them both sit in the garage for a year and see what happens. I am done with gas engines period. Will never buy another one. I have already replaced my leaf blower, edger and pole saw. I love not having to worry about gummed up carburetors. I have two batteries and swap them between tools plus charge them with my solar power so they run for free now. Next will be an electric lawn mower and I have already placed my order for the Tesla Truck. Thanks for the review!
Recently brought an MS220 here in the UK, another great benefit is the cost of gas here is about 3 times the cost of mains electricity, we burn about 6 cords per year so that adds up. Of course if you have solar panels you are running an electric saw for free! Great show, many thanks! Owen T.
How do you find the Stihl? I asked my local dealer but he recommended the EGO range, that works out to around £650 full kit vs £800 for the Stihl. I'm still on the fence because it needs to be suitable for that kind of investment. My current saw is a husky 450, great when it starts but temperamental!
Really pleased with it, I've tried a couple of other saws but the Stihl is the closest to a petrol saw in its feel and performance, probably equivalent to a 35cc saw. I've felled and crosscut around 20m3 this year average diameter of maybe 10cm, it does struggle with 20cm+ fast charging time helps, a friend has the electric husky which he says is very similar in performance. Hope that helps.
That quantity is about what I do on average on a scav permit so it's mainly pine. Usually around 8-10" diameter but sometimes get the odd large stump.
I think I'll wait until the husky dies and look again then.
Pretty amazing results!
Biggest difference between the two was the 18" bar on the gas saw versus the 16" bar on the electric saw.
While watching the cuts I could see that BOTH chains were throwing the same sized chips so the chains were pretty close to the same grind.
Just my opinion.
I myself would not mind having the electric saw just for a quick "grab and go" on the farm.
Thanks for the comparison.
Have a day!
Yea, agree grab and go is perfect. If your out cutting for a while I would stick with gas for sure but man these are handy to have
Love my electric chain saws!! No fumes, super quiet and no dang 2 cycle fuel!! Woot!!
I like the fumes but i ordered the ms220c regardless
I've been using the same gas powered chain saw for 30 years, (Stihl 025), and it has been wonderful. But I saw this electric 60 volt Greenworks 16" chain saw at Lowe's for $170, and I'll have to say, It cuts wood as good as my Stihl. On a full charge it cuts about 3/4 a trailer load of firewood, whereas the Stihl cuts a full load on a tank of gas. I have a Greenworks 60 volt electric blower and its battery works in the chainsaw too. So if I run out of power, I just plug in another battery.
I bought a Dewalt electric chain saw for my wife to use, and find that I grab it often when heading out to do some bush hogging. I got it mainly for smaller trees (saplings) and branches. It is handy and does the trick for the smaller stuff. I wouldn't want to use it on anything bigger than maybe 8" in diameter (it has a 12" bar). We cut mostly oak, hickory and maples on our property with a little bit of pine.
I'm just not convinced (yet) that a battery operated saw can replace my gas saws for the bigger stuff that we cut.
Of course, I know that I am kind of comparing apples to oranges here, but my thought process is that OVER TIME a gas operated saw will maintain the power and torque longer than a battery operated saw. That in my opinion would be the real test. Run both saws for a year with weekly use, both with new chains and see which one holds up better.
I realize the market for "occasional use" is there, and a battery operated saw may fill that niche, but I'm looking more towards longevity. A couple of things to consider. Batteries, especially lithium require maintenance, even if they are not used. The worst thing to do with a lithium battery is to discharge it completely (most are protected from this). The other bad thing to do is allow a lithium battery to be in a discharged state for a long period of time.
For the cost difference, I would opt towards the gas operated saw if I was looking to buy my first saw. Again, this is just my opinion and I could be wrong about it.
Steve Martinez most newer battery chargers for new lithium battery’s have a mode built in that stops charging them once there fully charged to prevent over charging damage. Cheers
Nice intro Daniel... M to the third! Mike I thought the 250 was faster, same saw I have and you are right... for a little wood cutting during the year, it is awesome. Have a good one.
We have just shy of 7 acres here at the hacienda. All of our trees are in pretty good shape, but they do need trimming on occasion and we do get limbs down from snow and/or windstorms. I have an MS291 that works fine, but it is a beast. That MSA 220 C looks like it would work perfectly for my situation to throw in the Ranger and have on hand should I need it.
From what I can find, that 220c (14") can be had for $340 .... not including the battery and charger. Add those in and it zooms up to nearly $700. You can buy a LOT of gas and 2 cycle oil for $350.
I have a couple of battery chain saws for the exact reasons you stated.; 58v Echo and 20v DeWalt. Both are great saws with each serving a different purpose in yard clean up and tree maintenance. The batteries are expensive, but I’ll take that over fighting with a gas saw for half a Saturday trying to get it running for a few hours of work.
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I thought that the MSA220 was a bit faster than the MS250 before showing the side by side. However I think it is too close to call and other variables like chain sharpness could also be factors.
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Mike,
Thanks for the comparison....both will do a homeowner well!! Have a great day Morgan Family!!
"3 M to the third power!" Loved that! Nice intro!!!
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I think the battery powered saw would be the cat's meow for off-roading. Just right for clearing a path. Cute closing by the way.
I have the stihl msa140 for use on my Quad bike ..I love it ..the saw is cool as hell
Thanks for this video. Really thinking of adding one of these to my carving saws .
I have a Makita and have used it to saw the equivalent of well over 20 cords over the past two winters. I had a lot of tool batteries and other yard tools made by Makita, so it was a no brainer, since I had the batteries.
I haven't fired up either gas saw that I have since I got the battery saw. I've used the saw mostly to work up large logs 12 to as much as 25 inches. The saw has a 16" bar. The wood was discarded from a large gas line right of way. I measure watt hours of charge from each load I get and it takes about 500 to 600 Wh for what would be a typical pick-up load. That's about 6 to 8 LXT hand tool batteries. The saw uses two at a time. I have the 6 and 5 Ah batteries which are about a hundred watt hours per battery. I have 6 chargers and by the time I unload and rest a bit (I'm 71) I could go after another load with the same batteries. I usually only do one load per day though since I'm old and lazy. Chain oil will last through about 800 watt hours on medium.
So, yeah, you can use battery saws to do firewood. Just have to have the batteries. Price is coming down and the applications are getting wider. The last 6Ah batteries I got were $125 for a set of 2 on eBay. I also have a lot of 5's 4's and 3's but the 6Ah batteries are best for firewood, brush cutter and weed eater. Sure swiping batteries is far quicker than gassing up, but still it's good to saw for a long stretch.
Mike, 6 months ago i had purchased another brand of electric chainsaw. Having a small sawmill and small woodshop this piece is unbelievably handy. When I make first cuts off hardwoods, cutting these pieces into firewood right after coming off the mill was awesome. The saw is light, easy to handle and I'm quite surprised at the batteries. Best money I've ever spent.
Bruce, what saw did you buy?
@@egraham9049 Black and Decker.
@@bruce1816 thanks
Hey Mike... I bought the MSA 220 last weekend. Yes, Perfect for firewood (small-time compared to you) guys like me.
How much did you spend for everything? Saw, battery and charger. Thanks
Surprising results !
Batteries are always expensive.
I cut 4-5 cords per season, a Husqvarna 440 it serves me well,great firewood saw.
The only way you could even consider comparing those two saws is to completely ignore actual cost. A bare MSA 220 starts at a much higher price point. Now to make it usable you need to buy at least one battery and a battery charge. To get any realistic run time in the woods you will need two batteries.
For firewood cutting, I think I'll stick with my Stihl MS362 with a 16" bar. It cuts a lot faster than my MS261 and doesn't weigh that much more...
the battery saws today are great and a great thing for homeowners who only need a saw once in a while no more carb problems from it sitting
What were the difference between the two chains, if different? Was on a full chisel and the other a pieco(?) chain?thanks
Nice video Mike. Ya, battery tools are great. The only downside is the battery rundown. For me, I buy one or two extra and keep at full charge. Hope your views on the weather work out.
Full charge is hard on a battery when stored. Read the manual, they usually say around 65%.
This is why I dislike some types of electric tools that are used infrequently. Too keep the very expensive batteries healthy and get the lifetime advertised, the tool needs to be charged before use. The manual says a few days, maybe weeks is fine with full charge. However, the once a few times a years guy will need to wait for the battery to top off. Read on the Stihl site about batteries, they are a bit needy of special care. I don't use some of my gas tools often, so I use true fuel or similar. This can be left in the tool for years without any fear of "my carburetor needs rebuilt". I go out to my fully fueled ready to use tool.
Also, why do people think electrics are so much simpler and more reliable. Search for videos of repairs. Look up the ego chainsaw repair video I saw last week. Electrics are harder to work on without just replacing large expensive parts of the tool. Electric tools do have less to think about though. Being able to be operated by someone unskilled or with limited knowledge does not make a tool better. I feel the same about electric cars. I know one day that will be the only option. I hope by then electric is the better option in all ways.
Also, don't forget the many different lifestyles that make up the USA. Backyard dad and his two inch limbs vs lumberjack pro's that fell 150 foot trees need different tools. Buy what suits your needs, gas suits mine.
Who here can rebuild a carb or tune it up? Lots of people and I.
Who here can solder and replace mosfets or capacitors on a sealed circuit board? Yep...
i think for in tree work electric saws will soon replace gas but for the logging site it will be a while
Last year I got a 80v Kobalt electric chainsaw with an 18" bar from Lowes. It is everything I need as a homeowner cutting some oak, mulberry, and maple. I got rid of my gas saw, that's how good it was. Love the vids!!
Hi Mike, I cut/split a fair amount of honey locust. Sparks fly as it's cut and burns like coal. From the foot hills of the Virginia blue ridge, thanks for all the videos. George
I think the blade on the gas needs to be sharpened. I am looking for the battery one. I don't use a lot but need here and there as a homeowner..i like the idea of not having to worry if it is going to start after sitting for some time. expensive I know, but haven't seen anything cheaper that can hang with the gas like stihl. great job Mike, thanks for the video
I have a ms250 that's what I been cutting all of my firewood with the past 9 yrs I cut stuff up to 34 inch in diameter still does a good job haven't had to put much into it just a new carborator had a striped screw to hold the bar on that's pretty much it it's a very good saw.
I prefer the saw You use 10 to 1 over the other two ... Now I see the convenience of the electric saw .....But still prefer the commercial line saw ....👍
😀 The MSA 220 is a beaut little saw. As you say - can’t beat the convenience of it. The great thing about the batteries, is that once you have made that initial investment, they can be used in so many tools. Another great video 👍🏻
Not expensive - I priced the Stihl up and would have to get the battery and charger, the full kit is around £800 in the UK 😯. I have a husky 450 at the moment which performs well but is a pain to start. The dealer recommended an EGO because he said the batteries are made in Japan. The ease of use for battery definitely appeals when I only use it 3 months of the year and mainly on soft pine.
Mike one thing the battery powered saw is it is noise by law or ordnance compliant if a storm happens in a residential neighbourhood
G'day Mike , the battery saws are stealthy , I've worn out two Stihl 025 's great little saws payed for the bigger ones .
So I’m curious how the 220C did for battery life. I really don’t see it being a good investment for me, though. It weighs just as much as a gas saw, and I doubt it would push a 20 inch chain as well as my MS 311. Granted, you wouldn’t have to buy gas for it, but you’d have a much bigger initial expense to get a few extra batteries. It would take quite a while to make up for that in gas savings.
In a pinch maybe or if a tree blows down. The 261 and the little limb saw looks like the way to go in my opinion. Might be handy for a rough in crew! Makita makes one that is decent but it is corded.
Just wondering about the status of the mini cabin.
Mike - Great video. Thanks for the side by side comparison. I don't get to do this kind of forest aerobics, but I enjoy watching you go through the drill. Liked the music with the splitting. Take care - my best to the family.
No warmup period, no dealing with fuel issues helped me decide on electric. Extra charged batteries are a good idea for heavy use.
Nice outro. Saranac in the final days of winter carnival. Lucky to get enough ice for the castle this year i hear.
I’ve had one of the little Husky battery saws for a few years. It’s perfect for maintaining my 1/2 acre of mature trees around the house. I’ve been extremely impressed with its performance and run time. I really wanted the Stihl but my wallet said Husky.
You just Have to film Buckin' Billys face when you but that in his hands to do a controlled test ;0)
Joking aside the batteries will be an issue, both price and performance! New batteries will have a different characteristic than older ones .... as well as the number of cycles and exactly how they have been charged! Also the charge time v use time as well as how many batteries you would need to keep up with a gas saw.
It is a complex subject for sure!
Only 12 comments! I’ve got a still 462 and what a beast it is. It will glide through anything
Hey Daniel, I was born in those piney woods of East Texas. Yup, I was born in Marshall Tx. I haven't lived in Texas for many years but once a Texan, always a Texan.
That Electric is a surprisingly good saw, quite and convenient. Good enough for a homeowner to clean up around the yard and quick jobs.
yep, has its place
Yes the battery power saws are not so bad I have bout the 161t and the 220, sure is smaller but the 161t feels more professional.
I'm not surpeised that an elecrical chainsaw (brandnew with new and fully charged Battery) can beat a Gasoline powered Chainsaw. It even has some pretty advantages: less handling with liquids (just chain oil), way less noise ans no smoke.
And the biggest disadvantage (Charging time) can be bridged by using a replacement battery.
But...
What if You need to cut more than the energy of 2 or 3 (expensive) batteries can deliver? If You go to the woods with a MS250 and 1 gallon of fuel, how much batteries You must carry to cut the same amount of wood?
And when it comes to electric devices I always have doubts on the "for those who use it seldom" thing. Those who need it seldom have to take much care for the batteries! They have self-discharge and they loose capacity when stored incorrect.
"Those who use it seldom", don't produce much Co2 when they use gasoline powered devices instead of electric.
And when I need to process "just some firewood" for my outdoor firepit, I grab my muscle powered 3 ft Crosscut saw.
That needs beer as fuel - and saves me the workout in the gym.
The Battery powered has another plus in that you don't have to deal with the alcohol tainted gas with the plastic type fuel line being destroyed other than that I thank you for posting it.
The only thing dumber then reving the saw while cutting air is pushing&pulling the bar back&forth in the log while cutting it. (With the engine running )
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I use and I still have 3 gas saws but after aquier 2 battery power saws I very much can say my gaz power
saws are a thing of the past. One thing I feel and I have both comparing the sthil msa220 and the 161T the 161T feel much,much better.
On the second cut the gas powered saw gained up a little on the electrick saw. Guess it got a little warmer at that time, but looking forward to a more in depth comparison of the two. Electrict saw could be an option for me when my two old gas powered saws need to be replaced. Running an old Husqvarna 50 cc with 16`` bar and an old Mac also 50 cc with an 18`` bar. Both still running great, so it will be a while😊
Greetings from a cool and wet B'ham, Al. Mike, you aren't kidding about the batteries for that chainsaw being expensive. The local dealers here want $650 for the MSA 220 C-B chainsaw with one battery and a charger and $850 for the saw, two batteries, and a charger.
MIKE, ya might be on to somethin there with Battery vs Fuel . Pros an Cons. Food for thought..... so far, we still have a choice in this country! Good stuff, Thanks for your channel .
Hey mike I like that comparison But I think that MAS 220 Would be great for trimming free limd's or cutting wood for the smoke house, Keep up the good work bud Enjoy the Vids, Oh by the way have a day...
Thanks to the Morgan's for another great video. I was surprised the battery saw was faster at least on a full battery. God bless
So I have a DeWalt 16” battery chainsaw that I cut around 10 cord of hardwood firewood each season. It uses a 60V, 9AH battery that cuts Red Oak logs for around 15 minutes. I have three batteries and a fast one hour charger. So I can cut for around 45 minutes before having to start the recharging cycle. Since I split most of the wood by hand (oak, ash & cherry split easy except for a few gnarly pieces and I can often split faster by hand with a good quality splitting maul than a hydraulic splitter - plus it’s great exercise!). I hope to get a four port fast charger for the batteries meaning that in one hour, I can have all my batteries charged - meaning I’ll never keep up with them. They’ll be charged before I’m done splitting what I’ve got cut. Especially if I add two more batteries to my array and use the single battery fast charger at the same time as the four port fast battery charger.
What I find missing in most of these reviews is the fact that by using a battery chainsaw, you eliminate the toxic exhaust from the saw that is a mere three feet from your breathing portal! Come on Guys! Most of us don’t smoke anymore because it’s hard on your lungs. Well, carbon monoxide is bad too, and you don’t always have a strong wind to blow the fumes away. I’ve more than proven that you can cut your entire firewood supply - like the 10 cord of hardwood firewood I process each year, with a battery saw. And this is my fourth season with it. I used to have a Husqvarna 425 gas saw, and while it was a good saw, I’d never go back to any gas saw again. The battery saws are much cleaner, quieter and far less maintenance free than their gas cousins. Perhaps there are a few downsides, but not compared to the distinct advantages and especially to your overall health and wellbeing. So ditch the dinosaur saws and step into the clean future!
Hey there Morgan's! So, maybe a question that has been asked already...do you guys heat with wood or just process and sell?
I have 9 different saws including an electric and a battery saw. I love the gasless saws for doing the odd indoor cut. No fumes, relatively quiet too.
Hope you are doing well Hunter 👍🤠
I would really appreciate it if you did that I have a MS 250 now and I’m really thinking about getting a bigger saw a 391 or 261 CM I really use my Saw a lot and I like the features of the chain catch and everything like that the pro saws in my opinion there’s a big difference
The MSA220c is very good from all reports there is a shortage of the batteries at the moment.!
Another plus for electric, Melissa can't sneak up behind you!!
this comparasio0n should be carried out again after a year of use to see how wellll each machine compares
Electric leaf blowers, chain saws, string trimmers and such are going to replace consumer lawn tools within the next 3-5 years.
I for one are tired of trying to get some of my 2 stroke equipment running every spring, only to find the primer bulb or fuel line has given up the ghost.
If you think the Stihl electric saw is good, get a hold of one of the Milwaukee Tool electric saws. The best part is a series of tools sharing a common battery. Hard to go wrong.
I have several battery powered chainsaws going back about 5 years now. Love them. Got rid of all the gas saws just because the convenience of them. 80% of cutting you cant even tell the difference in speed. Cant wait to see your video on run time between the gas and battery.
What splitter are you using?