@@josemonerri512yeah that would make it a better chicken game in a lot of cases and would easily be too busted. And for anyone that wonders why I compared it to chicken game and not foolish it's because Ancient Fairy dragon exists so its tutorable off of a generic 7 synchro.
Maaaan, depending on certain mill decks, or ones with a LOT of card recycling, that would end up broken. It’d be a hard Once Per Turn, but you could set up combo pieces pretty easily
I cannot believe a centrepiece of one of my first decent decks is here. I played All Night Party with Darkrai EX and Goodnight Babies Hypno so I could use Hypno's ability while keeping Darkrai awake to attack
I played that same deck too. I got scoffed at a lot for centering my Darkrai deck around this instead of the energy ramp attack, but it worked well and was a lot of fun to use.
Funny enough, there is a VERY niche use for Primordial Altar: Kyurem VMAX. Kyurem VMAX having the ability Glaciated World where once during your turn, you discard the top card of your deck and if it's a Water Energy, you can attach it to one of your Pokemon. This is a powerful ability if you can pull it off. However, not knowing what card is on the top of your deck is a bit of a gamble. You could lose important Supporters, Items, or Pokemon if you use this ability and a water energy isn't at the top. That's where Primordial Altar comes in. You use it to scout the top of your deck to make sure a Water Energy is on top and if not, either save it in your deck or mill it. Even in a deck that is half Water Energy, having this information can be important to how Kyurem functions.
It actually can be used with Ancient Box too, since Pokestop can be hard to obtain irl. can discard ancients or bad draws while letting you plan for a good draw
For #7 Wela Volcano Park I actually did play an Infernape deck back then and what's funny is you didnt even want to use that stadium for the deck. Brooklet hill was often times a better choice in order to help get your Octillery's set up. Scortched Earth was also very useful for extra draw support.
Primordial Altar works fine in a Galarian Moltres V deck during the "Path to the Peak" era. It let you get rid of that awful stadium (Galarian Moltres V requires the use of abilities to attach energy from the discard pile) while also allowing you to possibly discard a dark energy in the event that none were in the discard pile. It may not have been a meta-defining deck, but I commonly crushed Mew V Max decks with a Hungry Weezing Deck (Galarian Weezing + Smog Burst Weezing + Zoroark to use 3-6 Weezings throughout the game) powered by Galarian Moltres V on the bench. They could still win with a good first turn hand, which is what Mew V Max revolved around. Not meta-defining but crushed the meta-defining deck...competitive Pokemon TCG is stupid.
Ok but Pokestop is literally better for that GMoltres deck anyway since it discarded more (aka more likely to discard energy) on top of the chance to get you item cards
Primordial Altar at #1 is ridiculous. Pokestop is good but it can also destroy you by discarding crucial supporters and Pokémon. It also lets your opponent hail mary his or her way back into the game. Even though Primordial is slow it still lets you thin your deck or get stuff into the discard.
YES like sure with Ancient Box the goal is to mill your deck but seriously? I aint milling my entire deck for the few items I run. I'd rather Altar to figure out my next move
Primordial Alter is a card that I think its really good for decks that need to cycle out cards they don't need. For instance, I use a salvatore Banette deck where I really need to get the salvatore turn one, and being able to see the top card and knowing if I dont need it now I can discard it or if its something I want I can trekking shoes for it or use squawkabilly ex or skowet or mew. Its also just a useful null stadium as most of the time you can rid one of your opponents stadium while still benefitting you by being able to cycle to cards I want to control opponent further or setting up more
All Night Party actually sounds like it would be interesting… in a deck with a powerful card that puts itself to sleep. Like, a powerful Snorlax or Slaking card that deals explosive damage/is extremely durable and balanced by its moves putting itself to sleep. Idk if a card like that even exists, but being able to guarantee that sleep won’t be holding back a powerful Pokémon would be great. I can even imagine a “slow start” Regigigas with an ability or something that says it’s always asleep when put into the active zone from the bench or at the start of the game. Lots of cool possibilities, if only the cards existed
When I watched Worlds last year one of the players used the Snorlax from Sword and Shield Lost Origin, whose only attack deals 180 damage for 3 Colorless energy and puts Snorlax into a buffed Sleep status that needs two coin flips to wake up from instead of one. The player got EXTREMELY good luck in getting Snorlax to wake up, and it wasn't the main attacker in the player's deck, but it's the exact kind of card that would benefit from All Night Party.
Circhester bath was an easy way to provide a buff to the falinks deck whilst removing path to the peak, providing a -100 debuff in total (4 falinks v each with a 20 damage debuff), plus a cape of toughness which gave +50 hp to other falinks, you play it with the falinks that does 30 damage for each "falinks" named pokemon which included falinks V, so in some games, you start with a 90 hp pokemon, to a single prize basic pokemon with effectively 240 HP.
I challenge this one. Even thought it's niche, it's pretty much only way to do the following: - Use Orangurus private wisdom -ability to force water energy card on top of the deck (what you have searched via capacious bucket style card) - Use primordial altar to discard it - What powers up Melony to fast charge your V-pokemon. This also pretty much quarantees that your stadium doesn't help the opponent (which pretty much tells how bad this stadium overally is thought) But I used this strategy to power up my Vikavolt V and locking my opponent down as early as turn one when going second.
I feel like All Night Party has the potential to be strong in the future if a we got a strong pokemon with a move that came with a downside similar to most baby pokemon have, where it puts itself to sleep after using it's move. That or we get some ridiculous cards that boost baby pokemon to have like -250 damage reduction
I can almost imagine a Slaking card that mimics using Giga Impact to just not care about Truant's downside. Call it Exhausting Beating, and it has 20+ damage for 3 colorless energy. Deals 20 damage plus half the combined HP of everything on your bench, and 20 damage to everything on your opponent's bench, but puts itself to sleep afterward.
I find this amusing because I used to primordial alter with blisseyV as an accelerant.. if your top deck is an energy discard it and blisseyV attaches it from the discard via it's attack. Top deck isn't helpful you next turn discard it. You can think of it as burning through cards but if your top deck isn't going to be helpful to you next turn.. or is more beneficial in the discards..
Couldn't Indigo Plateau be exploited to setup 2 KOs by replacing it when your opponent's Legend was at 30 or less HP? That sounds like the worst defensive effect ever.
It's really interesting going from Magic the gathering to pokemon. I had Pokemon cards before I ever knew of magic, but I learned to play Magic first I never looked back after 30 years, but lately the game has been suffering so I jumped over to Pokemon and it's great! On one hand you get screwed less often as you don't have to use economics besides powering up your Pokemon with energies. However, on the other hand when you don't have economics beyond energies people can disrupt your strategies far easier. Imagine there's a such thing as leaving yourself wide open. In Pokemon is not really a such thing. There's no interruption during opponent's turns and anybody can stop mostly anything with any trainer card
i could see primordial altar being maybe useful in roaring moon, if you *really* don't want to gamble. pokestop is WAY better but it could be kinda viable lmao
I play Ancient Box and could not get ahold of pokestop, and decided to run Primordial Altar unstead. Primordial Altar works better that Pokestop as if you want it back on top, you get to plan your next turn. The amount of times I've found my Sada as my top deck with it when I've had none all game is amusing
NOOO I played Primordial Altar unironically last rotation 😭 Basically there wasn't an other great stadium that fit the deck (too many supporters for Pokéstop btw) so it was there to remove opponent's stadium cards. I ran Radiant Greninja and used the stadium's effect before drawing cards with their ability. It gave that tiny extra bit of consistency to the deck.
Block Snorlax never uses its attack, however - Snorlax control decks would much rather run Temple of Sinnoh or something like Pokemon League Headquarters
Snorlax (Lost Origin) Ability: Prevent all effects of attacks from your opponent's Pokémon done to this Pokémon. (Damage is not an effect.) Attack: -- Cost: 3 Colorless -- Damage: 130 -- Effect: This Pokémon is now Asleep. During Pokémon Checkup, flip 2 coins instead of 1. If either of them is tails, this Pokémon is still Asleep. Recommended Card: Windup Arm (Pokémon Tool)
I actually used all night party stadium for my deck which had the breakpoint hypno i think with the ability to make bothe pokemon asleep heal with all night party and then switch the stadium with teleport room gothitelle which made you opponents active pokemon asleep which was nice
I used to play Twist Mountain when it was first introduced. There were plenty of good stadiums, but none helped my deck. So I played Twist Mountain simply to remove opposing stadiums. I also tried to make a deck with the mentioned Archeops and it wasn't too good since few decks relied on evolutions 😢 it was meant to counter Darkrai EX decks that relied on Hydreigon, and the less common "ZekEels" decks, but even that didn't work enough. Poor Twist Mountain, you tried to be a good card
No one really played stadiums then except a handful of decks that played Skyarrow Bridge. The Skyarrow player normally had the advantage by the fact that they even played stadium cards for the longest time. Virbank City Gym changed all that. Stadiums became MANDATORY. You either played Virbank to boost your lasers or you found a card to play to cut its effects. I once saw Aspertia City Gym played in a deck that had 0 colorless Pokémon in it just to cut poison damage.
Rn Im using Altar on my roaring moon deck in tgc live. Pokestop has thrown away many game winning cards for me in the past. That said, I'm looking forward to change my main deck...
Ok I may be wrong but Primordial altar is a very good card. Primordial altar could very easily work well in a deck that needs to run through the deck very fast. You could very easily primordial altar to get rid of a useless card on top and get through your deck even faster. Broken card? No WAY better than every card on this list and I was shocked to see it on here? Absolutely
argh. due to the limit of 4 of a card name in your deck, you cannot make an entire psyduck and golduck deck (psydeck) based around that one stadium. wait. does slowpoke and psyduck count as a psyduck card?
Damn when I clicked on the video I was SOOOO confident that Lake Boundary would be number 1. I'm only on #9 can't wait to see what else is fucking terrible
So, regarding Primordial Alter. I discovered it right after coming back from playing a ton of Yu-Gi-Oh. So... I maaaybe massively over valued it, and anything else that let me mill myself. Turns out, not so good in Pokemon. Whoooops.
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I'm sort of imagining how, in YGO, if there was a field spell that would just give you the option of sending your topdeck to the graveyard.
Staple for every graveyard deck
Yu-gi-oh is too graveyard heavy, many decks probably would have a good enough chance to hit something good that they would run several copies
@@josemonerri512yeah that would make it a better chicken game in a lot of cases and would easily be too busted. And for anyone that wonders why I compared it to chicken game and not foolish it's because Ancient Fairy dragon exists so its tutorable off of a generic 7 synchro.
So, as someone who mainly plays graveyard heavy zombie decks in YGO... I maaaybe over-estimated Primordial Alter when getting back into Pokemon >///>
Maaaan, depending on certain mill decks, or ones with a LOT of card recycling, that would end up broken. It’d be a hard Once Per Turn, but you could set up combo pieces pretty easily
I cannot believe a centrepiece of one of my first decent decks is here. I played All Night Party with Darkrai EX and Goodnight Babies Hypno so I could use Hypno's ability while keeping Darkrai awake to attack
I played that same deck too. I got scoffed at a lot for centering my Darkrai deck around this instead of the energy ramp attack, but it worked well and was a lot of fun to use.
Funny enough, there is a VERY niche use for Primordial Altar: Kyurem VMAX. Kyurem VMAX having the ability Glaciated World where once during your turn, you discard the top card of your deck and if it's a Water Energy, you can attach it to one of your Pokemon. This is a powerful ability if you can pull it off. However, not knowing what card is on the top of your deck is a bit of a gamble. You could lose important Supporters, Items, or Pokemon if you use this ability and a water energy isn't at the top. That's where Primordial Altar comes in. You use it to scout the top of your deck to make sure a Water Energy is on top and if not, either save it in your deck or mill it. Even in a deck that is half Water Energy, having this information can be important to how Kyurem functions.
It actually can be used with Ancient Box too, since Pokestop can be hard to obtain irl. can discard ancients or bad draws while letting you plan for a good draw
I use primordial altar in a ho-oh vdeck that needs ho oh or energies in the discard to activate but its also because I dont have any pokestops lol
@6:23 20 damage counters for being burned!?
I kid. Great video as always 😁
For #7 Wela Volcano Park
I actually did play an Infernape deck back then and what's funny is you didnt even want to use that stadium for the deck. Brooklet hill was often times a better choice in order to help get your Octillery's set up. Scortched Earth was also very useful for extra draw support.
As bad of cards as they are, I would hang the art from Indigo Plateau and All-Night Party on my wall. Great art on those two
Hold up , I used primordial altar in my Kyurem Vmax deck to make sure that the top card was an energy card so I can attach it to Kyurem VMAX
Primordial Altar works fine in a Galarian Moltres V deck during the "Path to the Peak" era. It let you get rid of that awful stadium (Galarian Moltres V requires the use of abilities to attach energy from the discard pile) while also allowing you to possibly discard a dark energy in the event that none were in the discard pile. It may not have been a meta-defining deck, but I commonly crushed Mew V Max decks with a Hungry Weezing Deck (Galarian Weezing + Smog Burst Weezing + Zoroark to use 3-6 Weezings throughout the game) powered by Galarian Moltres V on the bench. They could still win with a good first turn hand, which is what Mew V Max revolved around.
Not meta-defining but crushed the meta-defining deck...competitive Pokemon TCG is stupid.
Ok but Pokestop is literally better for that GMoltres deck anyway since it discarded more (aka more likely to discard energy) on top of the chance to get you item cards
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Here’s an idea for a list:
The best and/or worst Black Star Promos from each era. (Such as Wizards, Nintendo, DP, HGSS, etc.)
Primordial Altar at #1 is ridiculous. Pokestop is good but it can also destroy you by discarding crucial supporters and Pokémon. It also lets your opponent hail mary his or her way back into the game. Even though Primordial is slow it still lets you thin your deck or get stuff into the discard.
Decks that use PokéStop are generally the 30 or more item card decks that are build to use PokéStop.
YES like sure with Ancient Box the goal is to mill your deck but seriously? I aint milling my entire deck for the few items I run. I'd rather Altar to figure out my next move
Primordial Alter is a card that I think its really good for decks that need to cycle out cards they don't need. For instance, I use a salvatore Banette deck where I really need to get the salvatore turn one, and being able to see the top card and knowing if I dont need it now I can discard it or if its something I want I can trekking shoes for it or use squawkabilly ex or skowet or mew. Its also just a useful null stadium as most of the time you can rid one of your opponents stadium while still benefitting you by being able to cycle to cards I want to control opponent further or setting up more
All Night Party actually sounds like it would be interesting… in a deck with a powerful card that puts itself to sleep.
Like, a powerful Snorlax or Slaking card that deals explosive damage/is extremely durable and balanced by its moves putting itself to sleep. Idk if a card like that even exists, but being able to guarantee that sleep won’t be holding back a powerful Pokémon would be great.
I can even imagine a “slow start” Regigigas with an ability or something that says it’s always asleep when put into the active zone from the bench or at the start of the game. Lots of cool possibilities, if only the cards existed
When I watched Worlds last year one of the players used the Snorlax from Sword and Shield Lost Origin, whose only attack deals 180 damage for 3 Colorless energy and puts Snorlax into a buffed Sleep status that needs two coin flips to wake up from instead of one. The player got EXTREMELY good luck in getting Snorlax to wake up, and it wasn't the main attacker in the player's deck, but it's the exact kind of card that would benefit from All Night Party.
Circhester bath was an easy way to provide a buff to the falinks deck whilst removing path to the peak, providing a -100 debuff in total (4 falinks v each with a 20 damage debuff), plus a cape of toughness which gave +50 hp to other falinks, you play it with the falinks that does 30 damage for each "falinks" named pokemon which included falinks V, so in some games, you start with a 90 hp pokemon, to a single prize basic pokemon with effectively 240 HP.
There was never a failings ex, there is a regular failings that is rapid strike
@@JusticeForIanRobbI meant falinks V lol, I will edit for it to make sense
Tho I hope we do get a falinks ex I the future
same@@XanXinGames
I challenge this one. Even thought it's niche, it's pretty much only way to do the following:
- Use Orangurus private wisdom -ability to force water energy card on top of the deck (what you have searched via capacious bucket style card)
- Use primordial altar to discard it
- What powers up Melony to fast charge your V-pokemon.
This also pretty much quarantees that your stadium doesn't help the opponent (which pretty much tells how bad this stadium overally is thought)
But I used this strategy to power up my Vikavolt V and locking my opponent down as early as turn one when going second.
I feel like All Night Party has the potential to be strong in the future if a we got a strong pokemon with a move that came with a downside similar to most baby pokemon have, where it puts itself to sleep after using it's move. That or we get some ridiculous cards that boost baby pokemon to have like -250 damage reduction
I can almost imagine a Slaking card that mimics using Giga Impact to just not care about Truant's downside. Call it Exhausting Beating, and it has 20+ damage for 3 colorless energy. Deals 20 damage plus half the combined HP of everything on your bench, and 20 damage to everything on your opponent's bench, but puts itself to sleep afterward.
I find this amusing because I used to primordial alter with blisseyV as an accelerant.. if your top deck is an energy discard it and blisseyV attaches it from the discard via it's attack. Top deck isn't helpful you next turn discard it. You can think of it as burning through cards but if your top deck isn't going to be helpful to you next turn.. or is more beneficial in the discards..
Couldn't Indigo Plateau be exploited to setup 2 KOs by replacing it when your opponent's Legend was at 30 or less HP? That sounds like the worst defensive effect ever.
NGL, seeing Lake Boundary hurt a little since it was pretty popular back when I used to play… man that was ages ago.
It's really interesting going from Magic the gathering to pokemon. I had Pokemon cards before I ever knew of magic, but I learned to play Magic first I never looked back after 30 years, but lately the game has been suffering so I jumped over to Pokemon and it's great! On one hand you get screwed less often as you don't have to use economics besides powering up your Pokemon with energies. However, on the other hand when you don't have economics beyond energies people can disrupt your strategies far easier. Imagine there's a such thing as leaving yourself wide open. In Pokemon is not really a such thing. There's no interruption during opponent's turns and anybody can stop mostly anything with any trainer card
i could see primordial altar being maybe useful in roaring moon, if you *really* don't want to gamble. pokestop is WAY better but it could be kinda viable lmao
I play Ancient Box and could not get ahold of pokestop, and decided to run Primordial Altar unstead. Primordial Altar works better that Pokestop as if you want it back on top, you get to plan your next turn. The amount of times I've found my Sada as my top deck with it when I've had none all game is amusing
NOOO I played Primordial Altar unironically last rotation 😭
Basically there wasn't an other great stadium that fit the deck (too many supporters for Pokéstop btw) so it was there to remove opponent's stadium cards. I ran Radiant Greninja and used the stadium's effect before drawing cards with their ability. It gave that tiny extra bit of consistency to the deck.
Magnetic field from Flashfire is probably worse than most of these.
Not Mr unironically playing 1 copy of primordial altar in rotom v star
Field spells in YGO: 🤑🤑🤑
Stadiums in Pkm: 💀💀💀
Oh yeah, i love my Mountains and Umis giving my dudes 200 extra attack
@@nmr7203😂 you know OP meant cards that function like Spyral Resort
We need a top 10 best stadiums
Huh. All night party could work well with the Snorlax that puts itself to sleep in current standard
Block Snorlax never uses its attack, however - Snorlax control decks would much rather run Temple of Sinnoh or something like Pokemon League Headquarters
@@indie_annahe means thumping snore Snorlax
too bad colorless lugia had a quick death
Snorlax (Lost Origin)
Ability: Prevent all effects of attacks from your opponent's Pokémon done to this Pokémon. (Damage is not an effect.)
Attack:
-- Cost: 3 Colorless
-- Damage: 130
-- Effect: This Pokémon is now Asleep. During Pokémon Checkup, flip 2 coins instead of 1. If either of them is tails, this Pokémon is still Asleep.
Recommended Card: Windup Arm (Pokémon Tool)
I actually used all night party stadium for my deck which had the breakpoint hypno i think with the ability to make bothe pokemon asleep heal with all night party and then switch the stadium with teleport room gothitelle which made you opponents active pokemon asleep which was nice
God am I glad we never got a viable Twist Mountain - we were saved from the dark timeline where Archeops becomes easy to get in play
Back in the day all night party was used with hypno and darkrai ex for huge damage super easily
I used to play Twist Mountain when it was first introduced. There were plenty of good stadiums, but none helped my deck. So I played Twist Mountain simply to remove opposing stadiums. I also tried to make a deck with the mentioned Archeops and it wasn't too good since few decks relied on evolutions 😢 it was meant to counter Darkrai EX decks that relied on Hydreigon, and the less common "ZekEels" decks, but even that didn't work enough. Poor Twist Mountain, you tried to be a good card
No one really played stadiums then except a handful of decks that played Skyarrow Bridge. The Skyarrow player normally had the advantage by the fact that they even played stadium cards for the longest time.
Virbank City Gym changed all that. Stadiums became MANDATORY. You either played Virbank to boost your lasers or you found a card to play to cut its effects. I once saw Aspertia City Gym played in a deck that had 0 colorless Pokémon in it just to cut poison damage.
Rn Im using Altar on my roaring moon deck in tgc live. Pokestop has thrown away many game winning cards for me in the past.
That said, I'm looking forward to change my main deck...
Primordial alter would be fantastic in a black MTG deck. Too bad it’s been made for the wrong game.
Would also work great in an izzet deck. Or any unearth strats.
As A Magic Player I would find the Altar insanely good (depending on its costs)
I recall a team Rocket stadium card that had you have to flip a coin when you attack and if tails you took 10 damage. This was also pretty garbage.
Do you have other RUclips channels or am i losing my mind? your voice sounds so familiar, maybe you do voice overs?
Ok I may be wrong but Primordial altar is a very good card. Primordial altar could very easily work well in a deck that needs to run through the deck very fast. You could very easily primordial altar to get rid of a useless card on top and get through your deck even faster. Broken card? No WAY better than every card on this list and I was shocked to see it on here? Absolutely
argh. due to the limit of 4 of a card name in your deck, you cannot make an entire psyduck and golduck deck (psydeck) based around that one stadium.
wait. does slowpoke and psyduck count as a psyduck card?
primordial altar slapped in castform decks
What kept Undersea Ruins from being on the list?
6:30 20 damage counters lol
Damn when I clicked on the video I was SOOOO confident that Lake Boundary would be number 1. I'm only on #9 can't wait to see what else is fucking terrible
Are you gonna have the voiceover person with the pretty voice back anymore?
Yes. It's faster to have hiru voice some videos right now while the other woman records
Lugia Vstar ran Primordial altar with Oranguru primate wisdom to discard archeops from hand so altar shouldnt be no.1
i looove putting 20 damage counters on my burned pokemon
Primordial Altar as worst ever? Huh? Nah.
what's guzma?
So, regarding Primordial Alter. I discovered it right after coming back from playing a ton of Yu-Gi-Oh. So... I maaaybe massively over valued it, and anything else that let me mill myself. Turns out, not so good in Pokemon. Whoooops.
Primordial isn't thaaaaatt baddddd now cmon
What about cards putting themselves to sleep luke Snorlax? He might benefit from All Night Party.
Top 10 metal pokemon?