@@garfieldthomas8118 I post a lot in the 9+ mpg group on Facebook. Lifetime average is 8.85 mpg. Up until recently, I mainly did multi pick, multi drop reefer freight. OH, IN, KY and Eastward, running to New England a lot. I’m now leased on to a motor carrier that runs MN to TX, the 4 corners, ID, NV, CA. I’m not under 71k often, both now and when I was running my own authority. I’m hauling cheese, beer, and frozen foods now, and they and try and get their money’s worth. The multi pick and drop was usually 2-4 picks, 9-12 drops.
@@garfieldthomas8118 I post a lot in the 9+ mpg club page on FB. Lifetime is 8.8x mpg, 823k miles so far. Most of that time was spent doing multi pick multi drop reefer Midwest to New England and back.
Hi Jason. I believe I heard a nervousness in you voice there talking about after treatment systems with International. Can’t blame you after the Mass EGR fiasco. Time and mileage will tell if this new system will work. Seems promising though 👍
Its a bit of missunderstanding. S13 IS domestic. Made in the USA, does not matter where its designed. Besides, whats American-designed these days? Cummins?
We recently tested two different S13 hauling fuel in East TN & East Ky. Good fuel truck setups. Engine has plenty of power and the transmission in Performance plus mode worked very well pulling the hills at 80,000 pounds and we could pass vehicles. But... The transmission in Economy mode SUCKED, barley climb a hill and couldn't pass a prius. The transmission in Performance mode was better than Economy mode but gutless on hills. They are DEF guzzlers. Also, we used $15 per shift or $30 a day in DEF. Overall, the engine & transmission combination are a great setup.
The most important thing is the T14 transmission. There is no benefit to having a 12-speed direct drive transmission spinning your engine at 13 14 1500 rpm.
All the changes and new goodies are just a gong show for parts & service folk at the dealers for the next few yrs til the OEM's and dealers can figure out what to stock, where it all is made and shipped from gets more complicated all the time. I like some of the ideas there, see how it all works out. Hopefully it goes better than their Cat venture did.
Not necessarily, cylinder temperature determines emissions not fuel pressure, the fuel pressure allows for better atomisation and injection control, these as with all modern diesels are multipulse injection, usually 5 per power stroke, helps keep cylinder pressures and temps in a better range as the piston travels down the bore, 10,000 psi sounds alot, but its still 26,000 psi/1733 bar, thats still high enough.
Running more def instead of more egr is way better for the engine SCR is decently reliable if you take care of it and its the cheapest out of all the emissions controls to repair most mechanics suck at diagnosing it tho
Looks like VW Group may be the savior of Navistar. Props to them for also sending someone to a trade show THAT KNOWS THE COMPANY PRODUCT INSIDE AND OUT. Nothing more annoying than asking questions and getting "Well, Umm, Well"
@ try proof reading your comments before posting them, I think you need a semester of English 101 steering wheel holder!! Anyone with a IQ as low as yours can’t do more than just hold a wheel while driving…
Best part is NO part. This is same bs just different parts added. No egr valve and cooler but u get more expensive box with 3 catalytic converters and extra def injector and what not 🤦♂️ Just too much headache
Fascinating! The fact the this is going to be Navistar's last ICE before the EV generation, and the fact that they invested so much capital into it's development to the point that it's over-engineered, tells me that this engine is a unique technological achievement built so we'll as to even compete with the first commercial electric vehicles when they become entrenched in the marketplace
Junk!! Lol!! Europe is at least 20 years in front of American junk. Scania sell their trucks and drivetrains in 5 continents and at least 100 different countries. Let's count where American trucks are sold. North America. Lol!!! Lol!!!
@@catd11ng74 European trucks even their older Scanias, Volvo FH's, MAN''s , etc... are still more reliable than most of the modern American trucks we have here
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Great info. That guy is great at explaining things in an understandable way
“Simplicity is the mark of a genius.” -Plato
its the new scania Powertrain, you gonna be blown away by its performence/efficiency ,even the Freightliner cant hold with it.
Even Freighty no way wow ups wow no no
JB HUNT started getting trucks with this engine's . The engine looks sick. i love it! Grate technology!!
Might be getting mine in November. 726,000 miles on my A26 and still doing great.
What MPG are you getting and what terrain (hills or flats)?
@@garfieldthomas8118
I post a lot in the 9+ mpg group on Facebook. Lifetime average is 8.85 mpg. Up until recently, I mainly did multi pick, multi drop reefer freight. OH, IN, KY and Eastward, running to New England a lot. I’m now leased on to a motor carrier that runs MN to TX, the 4 corners, ID, NV, CA. I’m not under 71k often, both now and when I was running my own authority. I’m hauling cheese, beer, and frozen foods now, and they and try and get their money’s worth. The multi pick and drop was usually 2-4 picks, 9-12 drops.
@@garfieldthomas8118
I post a lot in the 9+ mpg club page on FB. Lifetime is 8.8x mpg, 823k miles so far.
Most of that time was spent doing multi pick multi drop reefer Midwest to New England and back.
Mpg?
100% Scania powertrain. 👍
I was thinking MAN.
I was thinking KAMAZ engine
About 60%
Scania is a amazing product.
Scania is the best... US market has see the light in the tunnel ,, scania scania ..greatings from Sweden !
Hi Jason. I believe I heard a nervousness in you voice there talking about after treatment systems with International. Can’t blame you after the Mass EGR fiasco. Time and mileage will tell if this new system will work. Seems promising though 👍
Great job David Crowe!
1st step for Scania reentering the US truck scene....
Watch out domestics...
Its a bit of missunderstanding. S13 IS domestic. Made in the USA, does not matter where its designed. Besides, whats American-designed these days? Cummins?
that engine is beautiful... back to the roots!
It's a Scania engine
Great presenter and awesome scania products
So, that was a no, to the manual transmission option...
Great explanation.. We acquired 20 in Mexico and they are running great...
cant we just get it with an Scania truck here in the US like the rest of the world
No we have no €€ to pay the Swedes
That'd be a good idea only in California, where the top speed is highly limited.
@@shrekas2966
You can get European trucks without a speed limiter.
Scania 100%
It's a Scania DC13 in disguise
I hope this works better than their last contraption. Part Man, International......
Scania 💪🏼
It is NOT a VW engien it is a Swedish Scania 13L 6 and thats a nice motor
We recently tested two different S13 hauling fuel in East TN & East Ky. Good fuel truck setups. Engine has plenty of power and the transmission in Performance plus mode worked very well pulling the hills at 80,000 pounds and we could pass vehicles. But... The transmission in Economy mode SUCKED, barley climb a hill and couldn't pass a prius.
The transmission in Performance mode was better than Economy mode but gutless on hills.
They are DEF guzzlers. Also, we used $15 per shift or $30 a day in DEF.
Overall, the engine & transmission combination are a great setup.
The most important thing is the T14 transmission. There is no benefit to having a 12-speed direct drive transmission spinning your engine at 13 14 1500 rpm.
Looks like my G 500 Scania..😮
It's because is made by Scania, is based on the DC13 Super.
Americans discover European technology and try to pass it off as their own 😂
I want that drivetrain in my f250
I just hope the geartrain is in the front so it can actually be inframed
All the changes and new goodies are just a gong show for parts & service folk at the dealers for the next few yrs til the OEM's and dealers can figure out what to stock, where it all is made and shipped from gets more complicated all the time. I like some of the ideas there, see how it all works out. Hopefully it goes better than their Cat venture did.
Why drop the rail PSI? Higher injection pressures will help reduce emissions. Odd...........
Not necessarily, cylinder temperature determines emissions not fuel pressure, the fuel pressure allows for better atomisation and injection control, these as with all modern diesels are multipulse injection, usually 5 per power stroke, helps keep cylinder pressures and temps in a better range as the piston travels down the bore, 10,000 psi sounds alot, but its still 26,000 psi/1733 bar, thats still high enough.
Running more def instead of more egr is way better for the engine SCR is decently reliable if you take care of it and its the cheapest out of all the emissions controls to repair most mechanics suck at diagnosing it tho
Top tip , turn off predictive cruise control , thank me later .
Looks like VW Group may be the savior of Navistar. Props to them for also sending someone to a trade show THAT KNOWS THE COMPANY PRODUCT INSIDE AND OUT. Nothing more annoying than asking questions and getting "Well, Umm, Well"
I have a standard transmission in my truck, I like driving it not just sitting in the seat and holding the wheel.
Nice flex. No one cares. Manual transmission or outdated and will be going away. These automated out perform, and are way smoother.
@ try proof reading your comments before posting them, I think you need a semester of English 101 steering wheel holder!! Anyone with a IQ as low as yours can’t do more than just hold a wheel while driving…
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Best part is NO part. This is same bs just different parts added. No egr valve and cooler but u get more expensive box with 3 catalytic converters and extra def injector and what not 🤦♂️
Just too much headache
Fascinating! The fact the this is going to be Navistar's last ICE before the EV generation, and the fact that they invested so much capital into it's development to the point that it's over-engineered, tells me that this engine is a unique technological achievement built so we'll as to even compete with the first commercial electric vehicles when they become entrenched in the marketplace
Top two Trucks in the World: #1: Volvo; #2: Scania. Swedish Trucks do it Right from the Get Go. 😎
i agree ,,,
Volkswagen.... The king of reliability 😂
What a nightmare
Certainly is to the competition. Certainly is.
Sounds like more European built junk, keep all production in America
It is basically superior Scania tech, yes. But it's manufactured in the US under the International brand.
Ummm lol Navistar is own by Volkswagen
Its produced in America...
More junk from Europe that will never sell here in North America.
Junk? They know their stuff, and make a super product in the .EPA 2007 and up engines.
Junk!! Lol!! Europe is at least 20 years in front of American junk. Scania sell their trucks and drivetrains in 5 continents and at least 100 different countries. Let's count where American trucks are sold. North America. Lol!!! Lol!!!
@@catd11ng74 Scania is junk just like everything else manufactured in China,Scania is Chinese made junk assembled in Europe.
@@catd11ng74 European trucks even their older Scanias, Volvo FH's, MAN''s , etc... are still more reliable than most of the modern American trucks we have here
@NeoTesla
I know that. I live in Europe