“This Is What Happens When You Don’t Listen To Experts!” Rwanda Law Disapplied In Northern Ireland
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- A judge has ruled that provisions of the UK’s Illegal Migration Act should be disapplied in Northern Ireland, as they undermine human rights protections guaranteed in the region under post-Brexit arrangements.
Mr Justice Humphreys also said aspects of the Act were incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak vowed to appeal over the ruling and insisted the court judgment will not derail or delay his Rwanda scheme.
Talk’s Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by UK immigration lawyer Harjap Singh Bhangal to discuss the topic further.
Harjap says: “This is what happens when you don’t listen to experts, as this Government claims it did not want to do anymore.”
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By the time anyone gets around to actually doing anything about the millions of people who came here illegally over the last 30 years there will be no more UK.
I’d say 10 million illegals are here
They are all now very deep in the woodwork .
62,000,000 people in the UK, all with their head in the sand, you have seen that disrespectful save Palestine nonsense, where are the demonstration from our country 🙄
Indeed there will be no UK, it will be replaced by the UBE, the United British Emirates.
@@aleccap5946 Sadly , we are a nation of complacents , I ' m alright Jacks and it doesn ' t concern us darling types . WAKE UP .
Only one way to stop the boats is to return them to France. Simple. This lawyer is protecting his income.
@btianstubbersfield the one who is simple is you
You really think they will stay in France ? They will come back as their goal is the UK, not France or the EU.
Are you ignorant or just fishing for comments?
France don't want migrants, nobody wants migrants.
Deport him, if there's no law protecting us in our own country but every bit of help for these unidentified illegal migrants then surely something is wrong ?
Pounds, shillings and pence is what this guy is tensed up about.
it looks like the UK is not a safe place
And it hasn't been for a long time , most problems we have they don't even mention in the media , or rather they ignore .
If i was youger i'd be leving the UK. It's a lost cause.
Certainly not for the indigenous .
This could backfire spectacularly on Ireland.
This is why Ireland never trusted UK. They were 100% right. London is not an ally. Dublin is working on turning NI into a major crisis for you lot.
It HAS.
No good news for Ireland we can now send them.bacj up north as its safe country so shortly all be back with British tax payer.dont mess with Ireland
How’s that by becoming a United ireland
As that’s what the English government want
The Irish position has been to protect the GFA. If you think that peace should have been given up on due to Brexit, then let's remind ourselves what the Brexit campaigner said about NI. They said it wasn't an issue and technology would solve everything. Here we are nearly 8 years after the vote and such technology does not exist. NI voted against Brexit.
Yeah well he would say that, wouldn't he? A seven year old could have told you this was a useless plan. Expert my arse. Another grifter.
Sinn Fein will be delighted. They campaigned for open borders. The UK left the EU - then abandoned Northern Ireland under republican threat. Now the UK's refugees will come to Belfast - and then head on down South, where the benefits are better. Well done Ireland!
It is no longer the UK there is nothing united about it
Sunak has thrown Northern Ireland under the bus
It's time for a united Ireland and end the British government's interference in Irish politics
No more free movement
The British have made their bed now lay in it
All thanks to the tories and Sunak creating divisions with everyone
The only difference is that NI, unlike the UK, has access to EU protocols to relocate refugees to other member states, sure it will have to take some refugees but it will still be a small fraction when compared to those that will remain in the UK.
Then, they will get Irish citizenship and be able to go anywhere within the EU and UK.
Too late the Irish hovernment has reduced the benefits for all down-to-earth bear zero nothing forbttem here - they will stay in NI
They won't all come down. 😂
The French ignore the ECHR as we should , the sky hasn't fallen on them . The Frogs took tens of millions off us to do something about it and then went back to sleep .
By doing what?
@@walterrudich2175 You didn't spot the operative word in there ? "ignore" .
Because the english are stupid. Remember brexit?
@@paulcastle1718 once again: what did they do?
I’ve always found insulting an entire nation works aswell 🤷
This immigrant lawyer is panicking because it looks like his money conveyor belt will be cut off by the genius of Sunak
It will never be cut off more immigrants this year so far then last year
Sunak a 'genius'😂
He's a friend of mine, and he DOES NOT REPRESENT any of the dinghy men!
Genius of Sunak??? HAHA HA HA HA HA !! Nurse! Nurse!! Michaela's meds are wearing off again.
She is right we can stop this but those in power DO NOT WANT TOO.
Just one question....how?
It's high time that Ireland was reunited, give them back the Northa nd let them sort it out.
Sunak wants lots of illegal immigrants to justify introducing Digital IDs (and then CBDCs)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's pointless to go after the gangs because others will take their place. While there's people who want to come here, the gangs will exist to facilitate that. You have to create a deterrent and make them not want to come here. If Rwanda is the best idea they have, then Rwanda it is. But they have to get it going and start sending people over.
agree as soon as 1 drug dealer is arrested within 30mins another takes over
Yeah the money involved is more than drugs trade. If the Judicial activism and lax laws allow illegal economic migration then more will come. The lefty loons think we can solve the worlds problems and anyone with two brain cells know it's impossible and mass legal and illegal migration harms the least well off and homeless who are already here.
OFFSHORE PROCESSING ON ASCENSION ISLAND
-1000 MILES FROM LAND
-BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY
-DEEPWATER PORT -RAF BASE TO FLY THEM TO
-PORTACABIN CITY
-NO ESCAPE, NO WANDERING AROUND, UNDER GUARD
Those poor economic migrants forced on to boats by gangs and made to come to England.
And giving them thousands of pounds 🙄
Why not open up safe and legal routes like we do for Ukraine. ??
@@garyh1572 ok so let’s say 100 people from India apply we so you 50 qualify you 50 don’t , will they say ok thank you il go bk to India 🇮🇳 or will they get a dinghy over anyway
@@garyh1572Because we're full , have you not noticed ? 😂
@@jasonbourne7499 if we let in a million a day it would never be enough for them they would want 2 million
Oh, look. Dinghies!
...Meanwhile, millions continue to walk through the open front door 'legally'...
Oh, look. Dinghies!
Yip! Stop all immigration, why the hell do they need to bring their family with them to study micky mousey courses here, our students move away on their own they dont take their family with them
Either Border staff are asleep or they have been ordered to stay in the office and ignore those coming in .
Millions? Really?
@@mikehamnett9336 Yes, millions. Really.
Why the declarative incredulity?
Well the year ending June 2023 showed a net migration figure of 672,000. It is unlikely that the total number of immigrants want wholly comprised of asylum seekers, but even if it was 50%, that is only a third of a million. You said “millions”-plural-which at its minimal use must be two million which puts your claim into context.
The boats will keep coming. This is what happens when you don't have Identity cards. In the EU and every other country as far as I know have Identity cards which is needed for a job, visit to the doctor dentiste. I look upon it as a membership card to the country you live in. What's wrong with that.
I thought there was a processing center in France is there not ?
Not for people who want to come to the UK
They blame Brexit but I want to point out that in certain areas the EU's legal framework does not directly apply to the ECHR, nobody wants to call out the BS of the EU. The Tories need to get a British Bill of Rights done, let the people vote of some draft versions until we have one a majority agree upon on and leave the ECHR. Get it out of UK law and sort out these damn judges and lawyers.
The SDP have a bill of rights as a policy and full border controls leaving the ECHR AND UN 1951 treaty have a detention centre on accession send them there on arrival no laws broken
The ECHR and the EU are two completely different legal bodies. You are ill informed about the whole subject
The ECHR are damned Marxists and all they want to do is move millions of illegals north .
The EU's legal framework does not apply to ECHR? Do you mean that the EU is not a member of the ECHR? That is true as the EU is not a nation and does not have a government, but each member must be part of the ECHR. That is the core concept. If they can get the UK to leave the ECHR then it will be another hurdle to rejoining.
Within the EU refugees only get to apply for status ONCE, no moving from spain to france to try again. But by leaving the EU the UK made it self the back up option for every refugee in the EU
The french police are trying to stop boats by destroying them but somehow the immigrants get new ones by the following day... I'm in France and I watch the news.
Money provides the will and there is always a way. I read a lot of the French papers too from the Calais area and their police are indeed doing a lot. The media here never reports these...so people believe the politicians who blame the French.
It is a massive gravy train for bad people like the man in the video so yes there will be loads of pressure to keep it going.
Stop the benefits including legal aid. Thats how these lawyers are making their living. Easy money for them too.
I've never met an honest lawyer
Exactly, it's supply and demand, if that happened, nobody would want to come here and that would sort the gangs out.
No benefits for people that haven't been here for 16-18 years. Why is our government giving away our money that should be spent on us
Watch out then Northern Ireland 😵💫
incoming in more than one way, be careful what you ask for,muppets.
The people here in northern Ireland don't want them. Same as the south! It's the government that keeps bringing them in against the people's wishes
we're screwed
They will just be passing through ...
@@user-eo7hg4pf8i a lot of them are sticking around, my town changes on daily basis these days
Julia - don't invite guests and then speak over them.
Only way bexiters know how to behave. Ignore the facts, and babble incoherent nonsense.
Northern Ireland isn’t in the EU anymore
But it’s in the ECHR like the whole of the UK. And the NI protocol has to uphold the ECHR
@@walterrudich2175 not only - The belfast/Good Friday Agreement has to uphold the ECHR
UK need to STOP occupying Northern Ireland and just give it back to the Republic..... Will make things a lot easier for both sides
@@user-bw8mc1zx1h The Republic of Ireland doesn't need a whole lot of pissed off unionists right now.
@@StephenG-kw1lp then send them back to GB - as the politicians there want to shove asylum seekers back to France. Let both sides taste their own medicine
From what I hear there is no active police service in Ireland and the locals self regulate immigration. Accommodstion centres are burned down and immigrants are run out of town for their own safety. Obviously this has to be done on the QT.
Youve heard wrong. 😂
I would love a free trip to Rwanda.
With 3 grand aswell 😂
Better weather than the uk all year round.
Off you go!
@walterrudich2175 Rwanda is a beautiful country. unlike the uk which has now become a cesspit.
@@walterrudich2175 Are you financing it !
I don't understand. N.Ireland are not in the EU. The upset government is the Republic. Surely same laws apply in the North as rest of the UK
No, they do not. Part of the post-Brexit debacle was to leave the border between Nortyhe4rn Ireland and the Republic open.
UK government agreed with EU that the same laws not apply to NI.
@@peterzapp2091 I never knew that. So I guess NI wanted this. OK fair enough, then NI cannot complain then if they get more Immigrants, it's what the EU want. I'm pretty sure not many will travel there anyway.
@@neilmcbeath954 I knew about the Border, didn't know NI wanted EU law. Then there is no issue then. NI wants to be run by the EU so they are happy with the immigrants
There are 2 issues here. For trade EU laws apply. For peace, GFA has certain international standards that must be maintained. The rest of the UK has moved away from those standards.
Take em’ all back to France same day on the Eurostar.
LOL! Even if deporting somebody against his will was legal (of course it’s not) France wouldn’t take them. And why should they?
Another useless bit of noise.
What we need in the uk is an ID system
This has been a big mistake of all post-war Governments not introducing an ID. card system and the compulsory Reg .of one ' s domicile . But of course, an infringement of civil liberties . Very British .
So what? Then you would have to issue IDs to asylum applicants as the rest of Europe does
Agreed.
i moved to france in 1986.. everyone had id cards then. been standard since 1940 I believe..
This was spelt out to the one nation internationalist Tories when Sunak agreed to sign the framework in Munich - until somebody told him the history of bits of paper obtained from Germans there so he delayed a couple of weeks. There is no accident they did it deliberately as yet another statement of hatred for their own country - like Labour, Liberals, and Greens they will not stop until there is no country left.
Why does she even invite a guest? Talking most of the time herself and talking agressively over him when he says thinks she doesn't like. But what to expect from this type of 'journalist'.
I want to know if this problem at Calais has gone on for over 10yrs which it has and the french border held them back ... for yrs and yrs how come they can't now ???
There’s an old saying that the law is an ass and this has never been more true. We are run by idiots.
The law was made by politicians. The judge was right. Brexit and this Rwanda project has been done without regard to the law and often completely against it.
As bad as it is and I agree with Julia, illegal migration as a problem is dwarfed by the issues of LEGAL migration.
we should remember the people that put us in this position...Politicians ...Lawyers and NGOs..... remember them
Disagree: it’s only politicians. Lawyers, NGOs, judges and the rest of the legal system only adhere to the law which is made by…. Guess who…?
You mean those that started conflicts in other nations despite all the warnings? Those people in this nation voted for. Against those who warned us and were shouted down by members of the public and the media.
Swapping immigrants for ruwandan people and paying to do so is no solution its a joke
People come illegally stay illegally work illegally and then after few years they are eligible for stay here in uk if they have a baby..otherwise you have to stay and work illegally continously 20 years then you will be eligible for stay in uk..one of the worst rule and no one talk on this issue thats very strange..
We have enough of a population if it went down by 5 million we would still have over a 60 million UK population, we need repatriation not illegal immigration.
Well - at least British „expats“ get repatriated from the EU.
@@walterrudich2175 If so it wil only be in the 100's.
@@deantownie7441 at least something is moving in the right direction
Immigrants telling brits your getting more immigrants.... you couldn’t make it up.
Swap you for a literate working immigrant would be the way to go. It's "you're" btw. lol
Experts - derived from EX meaning "has been" and sPuRT meaning "drip under pressure". These are pen pushers arguing with pen pushers and giving no attention to the practical problem in hand. Never have they looked like so much recyclable organic waste.
Yet these experts have been proven right so many times. You don't like the message. Okay I understand. It does not mean that the message is incorrect.
@@stephenconway2468 Are you extracting the urine or just not balancing experience with academic dreams.
@@robertkirby3158 Are you just refusing reality? Many times over the last decade experts have told us about the realities of Brexit, NI and Immigration.... yet some have refused to listen. The result is reality comes along matter how graphic you try your insults.
Sorry I a not buying whatever it is you have on offer. Try selling it to real Irish people looking at the unwelcome uninvited and good luck. I was not offering insults just trying to remove the ambiguity from what you wrote. Since you only offer more of the same vagueness feel free to carry on without me.
@@robertkirby3158 You talking about urine and yet it was meant not to be an insult?
I’m glad Julia’s not a doctor she’d be too busy treating the symptoms rather than the cause 😅
That's exactly what most doctors do !
@@elizabethanthony3916 True mainly because that’s all that the funding pays for
End EU colonialism in Northern Ireland!
This is a good one. Nobody ever heard about British colonialism before.
End the stupid and meaningless slogans.
This lawyer is just self serving and ensuring his bit of the gravey train continues... You cant trust a word he says....
The plane is aptly named
" privilege"!!!
This man is concerned with his own profit and his business in helping these 'refugees'. As an ethnic minority himself, he will put these people first.
Own goal by Sunak- as if he needed another disastrous outcome....🙄
Britains full time to fill up the rest of the islands
No Papers or Documents then no Asylum and those that are allowed to stay, it should only be until it is safe to return to their own Country, also any children should not be allowed to be registered as UK Citizens but registered at their Embassy..
If they have no documentation how do they get to Ireland
While the government keeps giving they will keep coming
No problem for lying weasel Sunak, he will just ignore it, he knows better than any judge or court.
TAKE AWAY THE BENEFITS
TAKE AWAY THE HOTELS
PUT UP TENTS IN A FENCED CAMP
YOU CAN ONLY COME OUT TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
The End
Your caps-lock key is stuck. Try again
How do they GET to Northern Ireland except through ferries, or their little rubber boats from Wales, Scotland or Cherbourg or wherever else? Britain is causing this!
All be at the March for British values June 1st in Westminster
The good friday agreement is for the citizens , it should not apply to illegal interlopers from another country who enter here illegally and breaking the law.
He is taking bollocks. The countries we don't have agreements with will never give travel documents. They don't want them back. I suggest we let them go to the Republic of Ireland, and then the EU can divy out quotas to EU Nations. Result.
Maybe then the French will take notice.
Works for me 👍
The guy has a lot to explain. When I look at the guy, I think, ....?
Because they were not uk citizen . They dont pay the tax . The supply were not enought .
Bon voyage, don’t forget to visit duty free
😂😂😂😂
Shouldn't other countries try this plan too?
The judge that made the ruling needs sent to rwanda
Was the judge correct legally? It seems that he was as the Govt has been quiet when trying to have this overturned. The judge is not the culprit.
She is absolutely right like drug dealers put done in prison others take over, when immigrants have to pay these for a risk and if caught sent back they don’t even risk loosing the money they not got theyle stay in France.
Stopping the gangs will stop the boats.
Stop the government and their string pullers
You can't stop the gangs, you can only frustrate them.
oh look an interview with another non indigenous human rights lawyer?
Julia is wrong. Let the guest talk. The fight is taking place throughout the European Continent where these smugglers will be persecuted.
Who is allowing these boats to come..also where are all the boats at that they have came in on
Harjap Bhangal is obviously a Labour supporter, with his echoing Starmer lame suggestion of sorting the people smuggling gangs.
That should have been done from the start, as well as towing the boats back to French waters. The Irish should demand that France take them back since it's where they came from and it's a safe country. Ireland is now learning a lesson about why we left the EU.
You actually need a passport or another type of photo ID to enter Northern Ireland from Great Britain though not from the Irish Republic. The only illegal immigrants who can travel from Northern Ireland to the Republic are ones in Northern Ireland.
We give them photo id 🪪 in uk they can use that
@@imbonkers3629 The asylum registration card cannot be used as proof of identity.
@@user-fg5zx4gz1z LOL! Of course it’s a proof of identity! That’s the whole idea behind it.
@@walterrudich2175 It's not. It even says so on the Home Office website and if you think about it - that makes sense :)
Not much point in bring guest on the channel if Julia Hartlry-Brewer is trying to do all the talking!
I don't think that expert dosn't know what he is talking about, the high court did not say Rwanda is not safe but the applicants might be sent back to an unsafe country from Rwanda
But Rwanda is unsafe. Your own Supreme Court ruled that
Who will vote for Sunak after the mess he is continuously creating?
I`ve seen recent ( post civil war ) vlogs and travel shows from such people ( British, + other European, American tourists ) showing what a wonderful country Rwanda is and none of them have been anymore concerned about their safety there as many other countries they have almost invariably been to.
Are you going to believe lawyers with vested interests, or people who have been to Rwanda ?
Ps, I cannot stand that smug `itch JH Brewer.
Leaving the European Union harms her not a bit, inconveniences her not an inch.
No as long as their is a market for drugs it wil never stop
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This guy has not got a clue. He makes a living from the immigrants -- Can't stand any more unfortunately. deport the Lawyer !
Actually you don’t like democracy. What about deporting you?
So asylum seekers shouldn't have access to legal representation.
Er... Covid calamity is what happens when you do.
It’s Reform and send them back in mid channel
Experts knowing this would happen.....so that makes me an expert even though I'm a Mr Nobody in the street
And she hates it😂
The Brexit effect lol.
Is it mrna 🙄
I am sure they will be useful here…🤔
send the boat people to ireland simples
I'm happy with them moving to ireland and if they send some planes to rwanda then they will all be running to Ireland.
Ya. But once they have asylum they can just pop over to Britain (common travel area). The reason they want to get there isn't because it's better than anywhere else. It's because they have extended family there. So this isn't some win for the UK.
Farcical pantomime
It’s beyond funny. ELECTION NOW PLEASE!
Rwanda scheme is doomed ..
Just a huge Patel smokescreen .
Brexit is blowing up in Julia's face.
After Brexit controlling our borders from illegal & legal immigration was within the power of the government to stop they just didn’t want to. All they did was swap importing Eastern Europeans for Africans & Arabs. Nothing to do with brexit but everything to do with the globalists that infest Westminster regardless of the colour of their tie.
Don't be silly, how the hell is the 'world wide problem' down to Brexit?????? Especially when the other EU members are still in and suffering as much as we are . Talk about silly Billy
@@juliemaddern it’s raining outside, brexit! They forget that the eu is the cause of this problem in Europe not the solution.
How do you work that out?
All remoaners problems are Brexit. When in reality they don't have ANY problems...they see an issue and it's Brexit. "I can't retire to Spain now"...Brexit. "my food is expensive"...Brexit.
Please send Julia to Rwanda!
NI needs to leave anything behind concerning the EU, and the UK needs to leave the ECHR
Because uk supplis are not enough for migrants.
Easy way just send them to rwanda.
I had no idea Julias dad was Adolf!