I feel really bad for the Light-Paws player. He seems like the most skilled at the table but everyone else just teamed up on him to make him lose. Like that Path to Exile... man that would've been so cool if it was targeted at Hinata and not Light-Paws. Anyway I really hope he plays Light-Paws again soon. Would love to see that deck in action some more. Seems like a REALLY good deck and WAYYYYY better than the Hinata deck!!
Agreed I love to see it again in the future. Now as someone that has built and plays a light paws deck at the cedh level oh boy is it good it fast fun and relatively cheap. But on the other hand yay the other players made the right choice of not letting the light paws get to critical mass
With my experience of playing Light-Paws, this is typically how it goes. Once you're big enough to one-shot a player, then everyone teams up on you relentlessly until you're dead. It sucks but she's still super fun to play and she can really just donkey stomp entire pods if given even the slightest chance.
3 blue mana players team up against mono white deck, that just sad. And please don’t mentioned any card is mvp when Dockside is in play, I saw so many games that basically people just abuse Dockside, so boring and uninspired.
As a Light-Paws player... This was super frustrating watching all the removal and counter spells being aimed at her all the while Hinata is thrashing the whole pod. Threat assessment, people! Light-Paws can only kill one player at a time for God's sake lol...
It's not too clear when that Abrade targeting the Ethersworn Canonist was cast, around 22:23 mark. But if it was at Jared's end step, that would be an illegal cast, since it would be Kam's 2nd spell of the turn, after he cast Force of Negation in the same turn on Jared's Light of Promise. It may have been upkeep, response to Rebound trigger attempting to cast Recurring Insight, but its not clear if that's what's happening, since Kam still has a bunch of stuff tapped, when he casts Abrade.
Yeah unfortunately with the RoL effect in play, I couldn’t use my counters to protect my own spells. So they really just turned into tempo counterspells to slow everyone else down 😅😅
Haha! MPC is awesome. Hopefully Lee’s aren’t too hard to understand what they are (he does the whole deck and uses wild art we’ve all never seen, so kinda hard to keep track of in gameplay) 😂
I think you guys completely forgot about the Tocatli Honor Gaurd on the battlefield. The sublime epiphany dockside token wouldn't matter and solitude couldn't exile Hinata. Funny you guys realize about the Honor Gaurd later when it was phased out
Sublime Epiphany resolves modes in order from top to bottom. So returning the Toactli to hand would happen before making a token of dockside would occur. Thanks for watching!
Ok so at least this game Kam wasn’t fed the win! I will say choosing to bring Lightpaws when Hinata is going to wreck your shit with a simple blink or exile spell was NOT the play 🤣 I love the commitment to stax by Jared but sheeesh this was a rough one to watch knowing how bad the Hinata matchup is. Still a great game 👍
Which things are you talking about? Ethersworn Canonist was phased out from March of Swirling mists so that whole turn cycle there were multiple spells, but it was technically phased out.
@@RollForCrypt Man, you're right. I totally couldn't tell they were still phased out because there was nothing indicating as such. Plus, I thought they phased in at the next upkeep. My bad!
@@michaellogli8684 we def need to do it different in the future I know it confused a lot of people, so we need to visibly phase them out in the future 🤣. Also it was a weird one because the March was casted at Jared’s upkeep, so they won’t phase back in until his next upkeep basically lol
@@RollForCrypt i might be wrong but dont phased out creatures return to normal at the beginning of their owner's turn? If so wasnt canonist in play when Kam played multiple noncreature spells?
Yeah I totally missed that, was my first time playing Hinata and for some reason thought it only increased casting cost of opponents spells that were targeting my spells/permanents. Missed quite a few taxes from it
Yeah. Hinata is pretty brutal I can’t lie. I felt like a bully this game lol. I might bust it out again but only when rest of table is truly playing cedh lists
It was phased out from March Of Swirling Mists when ETB shenanigans we’re actually happening, just didn’t do a good job of visually representing that it was phased out
@@RollForCrypt I was mostly referring to when everyone tried to stop the Sublime Epiphany. Bouncing/cloning Dockside would've been largely pointless with Honorguard in play at that time.
@@DurhamCurse if you look up rulings for sublime epiphany you will see it resolves from top to bottom actually. So the bounce effect will occur before the copy does
Why are Cameron’s so ubiquitous in the new cedh meta? I wish I’d have picked up Cameron’s earlier. Maybe I can still grab a few before they spike.. must be busted
Pretty sure I (Kam) was the only person that had any interaction, and I’m allowed to since it was my teferi haha. Alan didn’t flash out the hullbreaker he just casted at sorc speed. Was there a certain spell you were talking about?
So I'm p sure the only misplay I caught was Kam casting 2 non-artifact spells on turn 8 (22:10). Aethersworn was still out and he had already cast FoN so Abrade couldn't be used until his upkeep. Unless he cast the Abrade on his turn and not on Jared's endstep. Either way, love y'alls content.
Yeah you’re definitely right! I think we realized that when we were actually recording so I tried to take it back and then cast it my upkeep but I don’t think it was very clear in the game itself it was my turn
I phased it out at Jared’s upkeep… so to my knowledge it would phase back in upkeep his next turn right??? Feel like a lot of ppl been asking this so I’m wondering what the disconnect is 😂 I don’t see any mistakes other than a small timing issue on my last turn of the game
@@GoldSabertooth 😈😈 all a part of the plan. I did make a small oppsie with my upkeep last turn of game not tapping for pact + recurring insight + abrade that I needed to kill the Ethersworn all at same time it was kinda confusing lol
Lmao that poor Light-Paws player, funny enough I had the same experience with my pod. My Light-Paws was focused and perma removed everytime it hit the field while everyone else just ignores Hinata thats just controlling the game... Good video, only criticism is maybe slightly up gain on the mics or move them closer. When you guys are talking away from them it can get really soft.
"Attempt to cast" ?? Like, are you not sure you are casting it? Do you think a lightning strikes the table during the casting of the card? What does that mean and why do I hear that all the time at commander tables? xD
Kam dont bring your cedh deck to a casual table lol..I'm just being salty man..deck is cool and hope that deck get to play again..that's a bigg gg there guys
Yeah I never realized it until game was over and I was editing.. for some reason I thought they only had to pay one extra if they targeted my spells/permanents 🤣
@@RollForCrypt I also have a hinata deck and I think the best possible content would be a hinata 4-way... Get two more people with the deck and let's get a game in lol
@@swaderable wouldn’t 2 hinatas on the field basically cancel each other out? 😂 My x spell costs one less for each target; but then your Hinata makes it cost one more for each? That would be wild
First and foremost, feeling real bad for the light paws deck that seemed to have all the removal pointed their way. Also, you guys might speak up a little more. I felt like most of the game everyone was really speaking under their breath even when they're just declaring the cards they're playing. Made the whole game feel stale and slower paced than the board state would imply.
Yeah sadly the other two decks weren’t doing too much early in the game, so a lot of the heat went at Light Paws. Do you mean the volume itself could be higher or kinda like the excitement level in our voices? Good feedback either way
Unfortunately there’s no hexproof auras in white. Your best options are a few instants (which are in the deck) and a handful of equipment. In a perfect world we’re shutting off the use of artifacts through stax pieces. The deck is also aiming to land an early RoL effect therefore you need to run a fairly high number of auras to consistently break parity on the effect. Essentially you’ll be cast at least 2 spells a turn cycle while opponents get one under RoL.
@@RollForCrypt A lo que me refiero es que los oponentes activaron habilidades que no podían activarse o se jugaron mas hechizos de los q se podían jugar, esto modifica el juego completamente.
@@reyduston2493 which spells or ability are you referring to? Everything I see happened while Tocatli and Ethersworn Canonist were phased out from March of swirling mist? So they did not make an impact on the game.
I feel really bad for the Light-Paws player. He seems like the most skilled at the table but everyone else just teamed up on him to make him lose. Like that Path to Exile... man that would've been so cool if it was targeted at Hinata and not Light-Paws. Anyway I really hope he plays Light-Paws again soon. Would love to see that deck in action some more. Seems like a REALLY good deck and WAYYYYY better than the Hinata deck!!
Agreed I love to see it again in the future. Now as someone that has built and plays a light paws deck at the cedh level oh boy is it good it fast fun and relatively cheap. But on the other hand yay the other players made the right choice of not letting the light paws get to critical mass
With my experience of playing Light-Paws, this is typically how it goes. Once you're big enough to one-shot a player, then everyone teams up on you relentlessly until you're dead. It sucks but she's still super fun to play and she can really just donkey stomp entire pods if given even the slightest chance.
3 blue mana players team up against mono white deck, that just sad. And please don’t mentioned any card is mvp when Dockside is in play, I saw so many games that basically people just abuse Dockside, so boring and uninspired.
With Hinata in play, that path should have also cost an extra mana right?
Definitely forgot a few times where Hinata should’ve increased opponents casting cost. Oops. Who wants to see more Hinata in the future?!?
Me me me
Lmao, Jeskai Grand Abiter? That’s not broken at all amiright fells?
@@kstandish42 I didn’t even use her 2nd ability most of the game and she still felt broken af 😂
no bs, no excessive editing, clean layout, super cool channel, auto sub! and its a crime you guys only have 800 subs
Hell yeah! We appreciate it. Thanks for tuning in
As a Light-Paws player... This was super frustrating watching all the removal and counter spells being aimed at her all the while Hinata is thrashing the whole pod. Threat assessment, people! Light-Paws can only kill one player at a time for God's sake lol...
We will have our revenge, I promise!!! - Jared, the light-paws player. Thanks for watching!
@@RollForCrypt I look forward to it!
Like the banter, attitude and salt (so many cEDH channels are too stoic).
Hahaha! We definitely bring the 🧂! Glad that helps us stick out. Thanks for tuning in
Great stuff ma dudes, love this video!
Bring more light paws please!!
Best comment yet! You got it! Sincerely, Jared
It's not too clear when that Abrade targeting the Ethersworn Canonist was cast, around 22:23 mark. But if it was at Jared's end step, that would be an illegal cast, since it would be Kam's 2nd spell of the turn, after he cast Force of Negation in the same turn on Jared's Light of Promise. It may have been upkeep, response to Rebound trigger attempting to cast Recurring Insight, but its not clear if that's what's happening, since Kam still has a bunch of stuff tapped, when he casts Abrade.
"I could have ended, but you counter all my stuff" while casually countering 10 spells from the other 3 players lolll
Yeah unfortunately with the RoL effect in play, I couldn’t use my counters to protect my own spells. So they really just turned into tempo counterspells to slow everyone else down 😅😅
Oh yall noticed lol I should've read the comments lol and Lee is a mcsalty haha
He just wanted to smack someone with blightsteel so he was disappointed 😂😂
Instant like for mpc proxies nice!
Haha! MPC is awesome. Hopefully Lee’s aren’t too hard to understand what they are (he does the whole deck and uses wild art we’ve all never seen, so kinda hard to keep track of in gameplay) 😂
Subbed for more light paws content
I think you guys completely forgot about the Tocatli Honor Gaurd on the battlefield. The sublime epiphany dockside token wouldn't matter and solitude couldn't exile Hinata. Funny you guys realize about the Honor Gaurd later when it was phased out
Sublime Epiphany resolves modes in order from top to bottom. So returning the Toactli to hand would happen before making a token of dockside would occur. Thanks for watching!
Light paws is just amazing
Will definitely be back on the channel in the future!
Ok so at least this game Kam wasn’t fed the win! I will say choosing to bring Lightpaws when Hinata is going to wreck your shit with a simple blink or exile spell was NOT the play 🤣
I love the commitment to stax by Jared but sheeesh this was a rough one to watch knowing how bad the Hinata matchup is. Still a great game 👍
Jared had faith that he was going to kill me before Hinata became a problem…. I think he was slightly overconfident 😂🤣
Lol Kam was also initially going to play Kodama and my chances were looking real good then. I was hoping for a bit slower start from Hinata.
Nice video, keep going!
We appreciate it!
You guys gonna start selling some merch? sleeves look solid Allen!
Hopefully soon!
creatures phasing in do not cause ETB's to trigger btw. nice game fellas
With Ethersworn Canonist out on the field, a lot of the things that happened in this game shouldn't have happened at all...
Which things are you talking about? Ethersworn Canonist was phased out from March of Swirling mists so that whole turn cycle there were multiple spells, but it was technically phased out.
@@RollForCrypt Man, you're right. I totally couldn't tell they were still phased out because there was nothing indicating as such. Plus, I thought they phased in at the next upkeep. My bad!
@@michaellogli8684 we def need to do it different in the future I know it confused a lot of people, so we need to visibly phase them out in the future 🤣. Also it was a weird one because the March was casted at Jared’s upkeep, so they won’t phase back in until his next upkeep basically lol
@@RollForCrypt i might be wrong but dont phased out creatures return to normal at the beginning of their owner's turn? If so wasnt canonist in play when Kam played multiple noncreature spells?
@@RollForCrypt you dont phase in at upkeep. Its before u untap.
yay new vid!
Yay!! This was a fun one
You recast dockside with docatli honor guard in play... also missing ethersworn canonist several times
They were still phased out from March of Swirling mists. I cast at his upkeep; so they are phase out until his next upkeep
@@RollForCrypt oh i see, my mistake
@@RollForCrypt The game was very entertaining despite the lower power level keep it up
Why did hullbreaker still trigger after disorder in the court exiled it? 20:03
Hinata is awesome for multiple playstyles!
Very true! Very versatile commander
Doesn't Hinata make all the enchantments auras cost 1 more to cast?
Yeah I totally missed that, was my first time playing Hinata and for some reason thought it only increased casting cost of opponents spells that were targeting my spells/permanents. Missed quite a few taxes from it
Faced hinata and all I can say is I hate it. Even if no one leans in to the tax half the other half is just stupid good.
Yeah. Hinata is pretty brutal I can’t lie. I felt like a bully this game lol. I might bust it out again but only when rest of table is truly playing cedh lists
I built a Hinata deck and yeah, she's absolutely a game changer. Very very powerful when she isn't immediately dealt with.
@@PrismariLaura yep Hinata will become a kill on sight commander I think… just too good if she sits around for a turn
Poor Tocatli, completely forgotten the minute it hit the board.
It was phased out from March Of Swirling Mists when ETB shenanigans we’re actually happening, just didn’t do a good job of visually representing that it was phased out
@@RollForCrypt I was mostly referring to when everyone tried to stop the Sublime Epiphany. Bouncing/cloning Dockside would've been largely pointless with Honorguard in play at that time.
@@DurhamCurse if you look up rulings for sublime epiphany you will see it resolves from top to bottom actually. So the bounce effect will occur before the copy does
@@RollForCrypt was Epiphany bouncing Honorguard, though? The targets weren't exactly made that clear
Why are Cameron’s so ubiquitous in the new cedh meta?
I wish I’d have picked up Cameron’s earlier. Maybe I can still grab a few before they spike.. must be busted
Hahahah!
I’m not even sure why they are so prevalent in the meta… they all seem pretty average 😂🤣
How y’all responding with teferi out?
Pretty sure I (Kam) was the only person that had any interaction, and I’m allowed to since it was my teferi haha. Alan didn’t flash out the hullbreaker he just casted at sorc speed. Was there a certain spell you were talking about?
Geez Hinata what a monster.
Hinata definitely oppressive as hell 😂
So I'm p sure the only misplay I caught was Kam casting 2 non-artifact spells on turn 8 (22:10). Aethersworn was still out and he had already cast FoN so Abrade couldn't be used until his upkeep. Unless he cast the Abrade on his turn and not on Jared's endstep. Either way, love y'alls content.
Yeah you’re definitely right! I think we realized that when we were actually recording so I tried to take it back and then cast it my upkeep but I don’t think it was very clear in the game itself it was my turn
Did you guys forget about the Ethersworn 😹
I phased it out at Jared’s upkeep… so to my knowledge it would phase back in upkeep his next turn right??? Feel like a lot of ppl been asking this so I’m wondering what the disconnect is 😂 I don’t see any mistakes other than a small timing issue on my last turn of the game
@@RollForCrypt ahhh yeah! The March of Swirling Mists!!!!
@@GoldSabertooth 😈😈 all a part of the plan. I did make a small oppsie with my upkeep last turn of game not tapping for pact + recurring insight + abrade that I needed to kill the Ethersworn all at same time it was kinda confusing lol
Lmao that poor Light-Paws player, funny enough I had the same experience with my pod. My Light-Paws was focused and perma removed everytime it hit the field while everyone else just ignores Hinata thats just controlling the game... Good video, only criticism is maybe slightly up gain on the mics or move them closer. When you guys are talking away from them it can get really soft.
Hahahahahaha! Glad we weren’t the only ones with this experience.
Thanks for the feedback I will keep that in mind!
Cara, esse cara de Satoru Umezawa tava de espectador somente...
Do I have to say it? Kam picked up wrong deck this is his cedh list ? Lol deck looks sweet..could have snakes samurai in the pod? Let see who wins
Fair point I let my snake fam down 🐍
@@kameronkiburz1233 bring the snakes, all of them bro..u will get them next time
"Attempt to cast" ??
Like, are you not sure you are casting it? Do you think a lightning strikes the table during the casting of the card? What does that mean and why do I hear that all the time at commander tables? xD
Idk why but I always say that when I have a really bad feeling that I’m getting counterspelled hahahaha
@@RollForCrypt Don't show weakness! =D
Kam dont bring your cedh deck to a casual table lol..I'm just being salty man..deck is cool and hope that deck get to play again..that's a bigg gg there guys
Hahahahahahahaha! They were all super confident they were gonna win before the game started 😂🤣
@@kameronkiburz1233 those fools lol..they should have know? Yeah after she lands ,she hard to kill ,that tuff
Was not paying your taxes on the hinata guys lol
Yeah was my first time finally piloting Hinata and somehow just forget how good the second effect was lolol
None of you could respond when teferi is out
Did we miss one? I don’t think anybody tried to cast anything in response while the teferi was out
Jared's auras all cost 1 more to cast when Hinata was in play... I don't think he ever paid for that tax
Yeah I never realized it until game was over and I was editing.. for some reason I thought they only had to pay one extra if they targeted my spells/permanents 🤣
@@RollForCrypt I also have a hinata deck and I think the best possible content would be a hinata 4-way... Get two more people with the deck and let's get a game in lol
@@swaderable wouldn’t 2 hinatas on the field basically cancel each other out? 😂 My x spell costs one less for each target; but then your Hinata makes it cost one more for each? That would be wild
@@RollForCrypt yes and then two more would be each target cost 2 extra lol. And we'd all be playing x spell. What's the opposite of cedh?
Jared also used mox amber for casting Tocatli H Guard and several other things even if the spells weren't legendary creature or planeswalker spells
Fun Video but yeah...Hinata strong when not dead but you know...Kill Kam and the problem evaporates like Teferi's Zalfir :D
Ya Hinata is super super strong when it lives… got so much value! Still wish that Heliod’s intervention went through 😂
@@RollForCrypt Maybe Next Time :D
Poor Lee 💔
Rip
First and foremost, feeling real bad for the light paws deck that seemed to have all the removal pointed their way.
Also, you guys might speak up a little more. I felt like most of the game everyone was really speaking under their breath even when they're just declaring the cards they're playing. Made the whole game feel stale and slower paced than the board state would imply.
Yeah sadly the other two decks weren’t doing too much early in the game, so a lot of the heat went at Light Paws.
Do you mean the volume itself could be higher or kinda like the excitement level in our voices? Good feedback either way
All the enchant creatures should of cost 1 more. They all target
Light-Paws needs more Hexproof. Deck doesn't have to be all auras.
Unfortunately there’s no hexproof auras in white. Your best options are a few instants (which are in the deck) and a handful of equipment. In a perfect world we’re shutting off the use of artifacts through stax pieces. The deck is also aiming to land an early RoL effect therefore you need to run a fairly high number of auras to consistently break parity on the effect. Essentially you’ll be cast at least 2 spells a turn cycle while opponents get one under RoL.
tocatli ?????? ??????????????????????????????????????? , Ethersworn Canonist ??????????????????????????????
Maybe hard to follow, but they both got phased out from March of Swirling Mist from turn 7 to turn 8 on Jared’s upkeep
@@RollForCrypt A lo que me refiero es que los oponentes activaron habilidades que no podían activarse o se jugaron mas hechizos de los q se podían jugar, esto modifica el juego completamente.
@@reyduston2493 which spells or ability are you referring to? Everything I see happened while Tocatli and Ethersworn Canonist were phased out from March of swirling mist? So they did not make an impact on the game.
How is this guy just untapping mana vault ? Hes not paying to untap. Tons of mistakes that just changed the gameplay.
He accidentally untapped it, then realized it like 20 seconds later, he tapped it and took damage for it… thanks for watching!
Yo where's this light-paws discord, because I accidentally made my list a comp list and I would love to share
Link with invite is in the video description!
Here’s a link as well: discord.gg/aEyN79Vj