One note on Squire: they also get Accumulate, which makes learning Job Skills in a reasonable time possible. All my units get this along with the JP Up you mentioned. =3
@@vicentesantiago2681 well it sure is useful but not a must. since you can unlock black mages very easily and they can pretty much kill anything (at the start no mob or enemy have big change to dodge magic) But yea as far as i remember i always learned move +1 too , so as i said, VERY useful but not a must.
@@si-level well.. think what you want, its not like we need to argue about this. Move +1 get replaced as soon as you can unlock the thief class which is like lvl 3 archer, pretty early in the game, if you didn't do it, there is not much i can say..
White mage/priest is always underestimated in FFT. This class has the same speed as thieves, making it a surprisingly good late game caster. Slap time magic or yin-yang magic on for extra utility, or black magic/summons for more mp efficient damage. With endgame equipment, it’s not uncommon for the priest to be able to cast golem before some enemy units can even move.
What's funny about your #1 and #20 is that once you're using calculators, the mime really shines. They let the calculators spawn chain reactions and hammer much harder than they would be able to otherwise.
MATH is broke, not Calculators. They're hot garbage when they're actually Calculators. Way too slow and terrible MA. I think a lot of you simply don't understand that. I mean this guy thinks Samurais have the speed on Ninjas, when they have some of the slowest speed growth in the game.
I would love to see you rank Job Classes from other games that have them such as Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, and Dragon Quest III, VI, VII, and IX
The Monk's Chakra ability also allows for infinite JP grinding since it heals both HP and MP for no cost. Grinding with two monks (or 1 and a healing caster) makes it really easy to increase job levels very quickly, and it isn't even an expensive ability.
I'm going to advertise a bit and plug my mod, Final Fantasy Tactics: Emergence for the War of the Lions version. I kept all of the vanilla classes, but re-arranged skills to make each class feel more unique. I also re-arranged the job tree to make more sense (example - you get Lancers from training up Knights, not Thieves). One of the changes that ended up working beautifully was moving the Charge skillset to the Knights. It made so much more sense to give it to someone who could take a hit. If you're a fan of Tactics, check it out.
@@ernestwest6861 yeah and it's nerfed in wotl like a lot of abilities other than draw out. Mel and the twins were improved though. Meteor in wotl is 20 points weaker and takes even longer to cast. There's always swift charge to help
I think the Mediator deserves a bit more love. I think it's good to bring one if you're grinding. bravery down is great, I loved turning enemies into chickens! Haven't played for a while so I don't remember the exact move name. If you mix that move with a speed down, and Razma's speed up, you can master several jobs in one battle with every char... you could skip the brave down, but then you get attacked every so often, and depending on the enemy, that can get annoying. All that said, I'm a collector type, so I really like having all jobs unlocked and mastered with every char, even if I don't use a particular job/ability.
samurai is shit, but their skill are very good. Meaning.. the class samurai its horrible because of stats survivability, but if you put their skill on a mage, you wipe the game.
@@WastedTalent83 Yeah but if we're talking about the classes themselves then Calc has no business being anywhere near the top 10. After all, without skills from other classes they're absolute trash.
@@barrygeistwhite3474 exactly lol but in theory you cant be calc without having done.the other classes so it's impossible to make a calculator which doesn't have skill already. also yea his skill set is strong like samurai but the class itself is garbage
one time, i ask my friend whats is more powerfull in this game, and he say orlandu (no surprise there), them in my house i enter in the deep dungeon, only with orlando and my black mage with calc..... orlando with the best itens in the game.... well..... long story short..... my black mage have item to absorve holy..... than i cast holy, and i hit ALL chars in the map, killing everone orlando included with 999 damage to all.... and healing my mage....... my friend got really angry, and o was lol
aww i love Geomancers and the Dancer's "nameless dance" has reeeeeally pulled me through some hellish battles (like when i once faced THIRTEEN MONKS on Goug Hill...ugh)
I shamefully didn't know the power of calculators until university. My friend showed me what they could do, and I never looked back after using them, And I'm glad monks were so high on your list. Sometimes I'd give my monk (usually my right hand man Rad/Ladd) the two swords ability for that fun double punch action.
I have to say that if you want to grind early (like, on Mandalia Plains early), the Mediator/Orator is VERY helpful. The main benefit is Chickening your opponents by dropping their Bravery through the floor. If you are grinding, then the level of the opponents matches your level, not where you are, and monsters do damage based on their Bravery. This means that an Orator can really help keep the enemies off of you.
Mediator can permanently raise your characters faith/brave too (it takes a while). I also prefer them for stealing items too. Thief is better for specific fights (can't invite characters from story battles) but usually random encounters will have humans that have gear from a later part of the act.
I remember playing mods of FFT (that added Blue Mage, Red Mage, Viking etc), the game has so much replayability it's crazy! But yeah unlocking the Dark Knight job in FFT-WotL (without using guides) can be a knightmare...
@@louisdellalucca8969 Having done one of the most popular PSP Hacks out there (Final Fantasy Tactics: Emergence), Blue Mage actually DOESN'T work as a class. The stats for monsters grow much differently than the stats for human characters, so giving monster abilities to humans makes them way too weak. You can affect the job's base stats to adjust for that, but that makes all of your subclass abilities totally broken. I was able to give Reis some shades of Blue Mage, because as a character she is built for that, but I had to be very picky about the abilities I let her learn.
Mediator/Orator one the best class. When put him TELEPORT , his is just IMBA. His use gun (to best gun stone) and have so match high % to use his skills, sleep or invite. Play this game around 1000 h , make all master job normal character 5 tims. in playstaion 1 x2, ps vita x2 and androind x1. Mediator always is me main team.
OMG, your story of getting the game at 15 and playing countless times mirrors my experience! I love this game and still enjoy it to this day. My boyfriend (who is a non-gamer) likes to sit down and watch as I play. Thank you for posting this!
Hey, the Orator might suck as a class, but it does have some pretty effective utility. Monsters might be inflexible, but some are stupidly powerful (like the Red Chocobo and the freaking Tiamat). However, there's another use for taking them on your team; keep them on your roster, then breed them to produce a neverending supply of POACHING fodder! You can get a whole bunch of rare and expensive items not available anywhere else through this method. The Wild Boar in particular can ONLY be obtained this way, and its subspecies are themselves so incredibly rare that you're better off inviting them into your party rather than poaching them when you find them and hoping for the best. Also, Orators can be used to recruit enemy humans. This can be useful for a number of reasons. One, you can get new human units that are actually at your your level, rather than get stuck training a level 1 squire from the ground up. Two, you can potentially get a class you haven't unlocked yet, or don't have in high numbers, saving you from more grinding. And three, you can take their stuff after the battle and then just get rid of them. Or kill them and have one of your existing units take an ability from them, heh, heh, heh.
This is still my favorite game of all time, I just wish when Square made the game they would have added more variety to the classes of enemies you’d fight instead of just wizards, knights, and archers the entire game. They use a few others here and there but unfortunately you don’t get to fight many of them
I knew the Calculator would be #1 lol My Monk just missed the Bronze, but that's okay, I'm just happy he's that high on the list. Besides, I agree with the top 3 myself
I think the Geomancer class is underrated. It's one of the few classes that Agrias can use and still have her Holy Sword ability, and it's also useful to get extra Xp each battle by having a few ranged options to help with leveling up :)
geo is kinda weird as its magic benefits from both physical and magic+ as well as the job traits that raise physical and magical dmg. geo magic also dosent factor faith (dont think drawout factors faith as well tho) makeing there magic effective aginst low faith targets. Geos real weakness is there bad/odd stat growth@@Greatermaxim
Besides the JP Up ability, I feel like the Squires shout ability is pretty underrated. Makes it super easy when kiting out the Weigraf 1v1, as well as being free xp and JP when you're not in range of anything. it's like throwing rocks at your teammates for free JP without a chance of missing or doing damage
My top 10 1. Calculator 2. Samurai 3. Monk 4. Knight 5. Ninja 6. Time Mage 7. Black Mage 8. Chemist 9. Thief 10. Summoner Summoners can easily get killed before they cast their summons. Knights are OP with their ability to equip Knight Swords combined with Dual Wield (Excalibur + Chaos Blade) and some end game High HP gears. Thieves are awesome and Secret Hunt and Catch are useful skills for finding rare items. Samurai's usefulness is when Draw Out skill +/Blade Grasp is equipped by mages.
My perfect combination was Ramza as a monk with the two hit ability of the ninjas. The guy alone destroyed the first form of the final boss in one attack, and the final form in two attacks i think, with just his bare hands!!!. So much fun to play!
Me: Ooo, David finally made this video. I want to hear his thoughts on all of the classes! David: #20, the Mime. Me: Yeah.... so we're gonna disagree on this one. :D
I don't care for the mime all that much either. They can be good situationally teamed up with calculators, or dancers etc., but for how much trouble they are to unlock I'd rather spend that amount of time/grinding powering up different classes like summoner, time mage, black mage, ninja, or samurai.
@@shadowtheimpure A team of dancers and mime can be effective as well since dancer skills hit all enemies, then it will be copied by the mime thereby spamming attacks that hit all enemies.
Fuck I love this game. The music throughout this video gave me goosebumps. Your breakdown of the classes, as usual, is thorough and inspired. Love your videos. Would love more ranking videos like this, can't get enough of videos like this one and the FFV job ranking.
I like how you used the alternate names in your voice over while displaying the official names on-screen. If I ever (for some insane reason) make a video talking about FF1, I'll probably do that with FIGHTER/Warrior and B.BELT/Monk.
I used a bard alot. perpetual speed buff is nice for cheesing battle especially if you get a couple rounds to prepare. You can look at this list a couple different ways. Best standalone classes or jobs with great skills you can use for your final "built" job class.
@@WastedTalent83 I rarely bother using him actually. By the time I get him, my original 5 are rocking mastered Tier 4 and combination classes LOL I decide after the second battle which will be my male squire, female squire, male chemist, and female chemist and build the fuck out of them. By the time I murder Algus and open that last space for my full team, I have 2 ninjas with ignore height, a mastered monk with elemental, a healer with chakra, and Deleta is usually knight or monk. Always fun seeing how the party ends up by chapter 3. Funny thing, I bought this game before I even owned a Playstation... or a memory card. Was pretty intense seeing Goug Machine City opened up for the first time. Finding a scrap of paper and something to write with to record what is needed to open ninja and samurai the first time a character has that opened up. Over the past decades since then, I've built a master save with far too many hours, and still find myself starting over again from time to time... just to relive that feeling of opening the map and unlocking the classes and unfolding each character toward it's end shape of this secondary (mastered), this reaction, this support, and this movement... FF Tactics is one of the handful of games that I will always come back to, and always will. Original 20 class, slow as molasses in January text at the beginning of Chapter One... The Meager. . .and just typing it out I can hear the background music as the messenger comes in, the 'thuk' of the door, Fall in, we have a mission. Ah, good times. :{)
@@kainshannarra2451 yea, science should make a technology that is able to erase only "certain" memories , so that you can experience your "first time" again. those first time , never come back, and its such a sad thing XD FFT FF7 Castlevania. King of fighters 96 and many others for me. About orlandu.. i only used him my first play through, after that, all the times i started a new game, never used him again, he is too op and break the game basically. And i enjoy a some difficulty while i play
Ah, I remember this game when i was a kid. I still remember solo'ing the end game solo as Ramza using Holy on the monsters in the pitch black while wielding excalibur. Ramza for some reason got way more hp as a squire then as a knight so thats what I kept him as when I hit max level. calculator is broken. He was the first character I mastered all the job classes with.
David.. we need to talk, if you keep getting buffed we will need a wider screen, please stop... As for FF I loved the dark knight, first play trough on ps1 I was sad mastering all classes and seeing that we weret able to access that class (at least we had Orlandu :p) PSP FF tactics made a good calla dding both Holy and Dark knight classes :).
I love FFT, but the thing I never liked is that near the end of the game it just starts throwing super soldiers at you, so all the classes you've carefully built up and trained from level 1 don't even fit on the field anymore, because you'd be insane to not be using your "generals". By the time you find out about Zalbag, you're just god-mode'ing through battles.
By the end of the game, the only generic unit I'd use is a Summoner, since it takes so long to get all their attacks, wasn't worth spending time on the main people to train them in it.
I have 2 mimes in my party, a bard, a dancer, and a summoner with math skill. Bard sings a song that increases either speed for more turns or magic attack. Tripled by the two mimes. Dancer does the nameless dance that plagues the enemy party with all the status ailments. Tripled by the two mimes. The summoner nukes the enemy party with a barage of magic, for free without cast time. Tripled by the two mimes. I had a lot of fun with this setup!
this is one of my fav games growing up! I was so hyped about it I had to get the japanese version before the english one came out. I'm so glad to find your channel!
Great video! But I love the Mime! It is somewhat of a pain to base your whole battle strategy off this character but a fun and challenging way to play this is having two mimes on your team, a male and a female!
I was planning on starting a new playthrough of War of The Lions at some point, and thanks to your video I now have some great ideas for party make ups! Thumbs up! It was a big help!
i agree of lots of what you said but in general fft key of success is to create hybrid characters through picking the goodstuff of each class and mix it to create awesome builds, you will be surprised by how fun and crazy powerful things will be i remember i had a knight that is basically can't be hit by magic nor melee &range physical attacks !!
Nope, I'm never using Calculator again. It was fun for about 2 battles; then I quickly realized I had to spend 10 minutes every time he got a turn checking the HP, CT, brave, faith, etc. of every single character on the field in order to determine what the optimum spell combo was. It's very effective, but it also drags out the total play time past the point where it's worth it.
I dunno why hearing about job classes is so relaxing for me Would love to see a video on the jobs of Tactics Advance or A2, be fun to see how the jobs rank up especially since you have to equip items to learn skills, see if that affects their ranking
This is a tough game to rank on with the secondary skills. For my play style, a magic user (summoner, priest, or black mage) with the Calculator skill is the most dominant character in any RPG i have ever played. I have obliterated armies in one move before. Tough grind for them, but if you just send them on missions at the bar, piece of cake. Total game breaker
I would say the Seer in FFTA2 is even more powerful than Calculator. Like the Calculator, it also needs to master other jobs to make the best use of its Magick Frenzy ability. It basically allows you to cast any damaging spell you have equipped, and follow it up with a regular attack on every enemy that was hit. Illusion magick hits all enemies on the map, so you can see how Magick Frenzy makes it even better. It's great for basically any stat build since the damage evens out regardless of if you go full magick, full attack or a hybrid. The downside is that you can only use rods which have a very low attack stat. One alternative use for Frenzy is to use the Seer's innate -Ara spells with stronger weapons on a damage based class, allowing you to do much greater damage to just a few enemies. Ninjutsu magic is kind of useless on its own since it deals next to no damage (I think about half of a base Fire spell) but it costs very little MP and, of course, can also be Frenzied to make the Ninjas amazing at sniping single targets with Dual Wield attacks..
If you ever play disgaea 5, there is a class called "Sage" which is female only. Disgaea 5 Sage girl is the calculator of FF tactics. She has the unique skill "Land decimate" which you can perform 6 times in one turn, and it hits all enemies, (don't forget to equip "softening aura" on allies to make them immune to ally attacks!!). Also, more enemies you target with Land decimate, more damage you get! Believe me, I've been able to solo many maps in disgaea 5 with sage girl. The only downside to land decimate is the 50% accuracy, but even then 6 attacks in the same turn will almost always finish the map. I just built a team around sage girl and got other characters to tank hits for her, just so I can use land decimate even more! XD
I would put dancer in my top 3, mainly due to the status effect dance (forget the name). You put a dancer in the back with that dance going and you can mess up all the enemies with a decent consistency.
Right now on this new campaign I started Im running with a time mage, a summoner, a ninja, agrias, and a thief. Its hilarious I just imagine the ninja thief and holy knight just whipping around the map and dabbing on monsters picking their pockets stealing loot and then just dropping a gigantic titan on their heads when I get done stealing.
My favorite job is samurai but not the traditional one. Back in the day I built a Black Mage Ramza with double swords to put 2 wizard rods (maximizing the magic stat), blade grasp with 97 brave to reach 97% dodge chance and teleport. The strat was very simple, just teleport Ramza in the middle of the guys and Draw Muramasa (draw out is based on Magic Attack) to instakill every single one. Of course I had access to draw out buffs (shell/ protect) and 300+ insta heals to everyone too. I miss this.
Ramza with draw out as a squire with magic boosting gear was the only thing to compete with Orlando outside of calculator. Give him damage split and defense up and the highest damage he could ever take was 274. He was basically invincible once he got the Robe of Lord's.
tag it with the Squire JP up Support skill and throw all your equipments that increases speed on it. Otherwise, you'll be turned off by its super slow speed. Grind JP the hell out of it and switch out to a different Mage class once you've mastered all the calculation skills. The Calculator class itself isn't one you want to have your units stay in due to its low stat growth
@xheralt that's actually a much better plan then speed items. In fact, if the enemy team has range, throw the ninja reaction that turns them invisible. Dance doesn't breaks invisibility. So long as you just have them wait, you're garenteed to have the calculator mastered in no time!
You have to grind like crazy to even access it, and then there's filling out its spell set. If you don't know about it already, you'll probably never see it, except maybe as an enemy in VOYAGE. No shame in not having used one. 🙂
#16 Orator/Mediator You can pick up some really good characters via Invite! That battle against Malik, with Ninjas & Summoners? The ninjas are highly developed compared to most typical party members at that stage, and successfully Inviting one makes the battle SO much easier. If you get one of the Summoners instead, you've neutralized an Enemy big gun. Even of you don't keep the character, you can strip the gear for sale or party use then ditch the character without consequence!
From what I remember, Calculators are super slow, so once I mastered the job for one of my units, I turned him back to a wizard but with calculator skills as secondary. SO broken. Great for mass healing and mass destruction all at once!
you remember well, they also have very low magic attack, in fact the class is as bad as samurai lol, you just learn the skill tree and use their skill with other classes.
@@WastedTalent83 the calculator stats don't stack well with none magican class jobs. You might want to pair the calculator as a secondary with summoner as main.
Oh wow, you recording voice (starting with the Mime) is so different from your intro voice. Didn't even realize you were YOU at the start. Also, you've gotten told this a lot, but buff as hell, man. I'm with you in that I'll grind a little for an item or a build that makes finishing the game more straightforward, but outside of a pretty select few games, I'm not going to grind everything and master everything. I have other stories to experience! Sure, that worked 10+ years ago when I had a limited library of games and there was a lot of backstory and lore to tease out of them, but nowadays, it's just not necessary (or feasible), and even then I had to like the game a loot to go that deep. Love your content and gj on the brains and brawn categories. :D EDIT: But one gripe...WHM is NOT useless. You say in Squire that the prior classes aren't useful. Maybe it's the way we play the games, but WHM I used a LOT, and many of my other casters had WHM as a sub-class for extra healing. Maybe I just sucked when I played this game at...14 or so years old, but I got a LOT of use out of WHM and CHM. I do agree with a lot of your list, but not that one.
Love this video David! Happy you did this video on one of my favorite games of all time!! Love this game since a child, played the heck out of it back then and still do now. The Dark Knight is my fav class from the PSP version. :)
Bard's are actually really good because you can put him in the corner have him sing his life healing spell and basically you don't have to worry about healing your Fighters anymore
His healing spell takes too long and does insignificant healing. Waste of a unit. You're better off having a chemist, a fighting unit, or a monk, who can heal hp and mp and also be able to attack
Master Chemist, get Auto-Potion, 99 X-Potions in inventory (no Hi or regular potions), use Ramza's ability to permanently increase Brave stat (takes some time, but can eventually reach 96 or something like that) to virtually ensure that Auto-Potion activates ANY TIME damage is taken. That's +250 (I believe) healed whenever you take a hit, and most enemies won't even hit that hard, so you'll rarely if ever need to waste any turns on healing. You can completely forego any of the Mage classes and focus entirely on physical damage-dealing. This setup makes you pretty much unstoppable. You can put it on any class. But really, all you need to do is just have an entire team of Monks (who come equipped with high offense, ranged, and healing abilities themselves) with Auto-Potion and you can steamroll everything. You can even take the time to put this on Cid if you really want to break things.
Grew up playing FFT, and it wasn't until the PSP remake that I tried calculator. Blew my mind, playing calculator with all mage classes mastered and then summoner skills set as the character's secondary and teleport for movement. If the odds work out, is there any more badass move than teleporting to somewhere unreachable and then casting death on everyone in the field? Who knew that math majors were so POWERFUL.
Knight abilities are a good way to cripple enemies and like charge can be used with a variety of weapons including guns and double weapons from 2 swords and will actually activate twice which is pretty cool.
Before I watch this, let me guess: calculator #1 eh? Should be, that job is broken as hell. Some notes as I watch: -Mime is great for min-maxing, since it has the best stat grow of any generic. If you want to min-max (not that you need to) this is the class to do it with. -Archer: this one is funny. The team behind Tactics Ogre is the same team (more or less) behind FFT. My guess is they were so afraid to make archers OP again, that then nerfed them to the ground. Funny how they didn't do that to the Ninja tho... -Squire: in the vanilla game they have Yell, which increased speed by +1. If you ever played FFT you know how broken speed is. Just yell a few times, then do laps around everyone on the map, before they even get one turn of their own. Ramza's squire is also a special one. Don't sleep on it. -Knight: they can break stats.. STATS! And they can do that 2x with Two Swords. See how much that boss will do to you, with no PA, no MA and no speed lol Broken class. -Black Mage: magick attack up is the best thing here. Spells are too slow late game, but nice early game. -Time Mage: Should be #2. OP as hell. Best support class, and Demi2 always does 1/2 target HP, meaning there are only a few bosses in the game, that can take two casts of this and not die (due to the damage limit being 999) -Calculator: yup, yup... If broken was broken, it would still not be as broken as this guy.
@@fernandoametller6535 No they are not compared to monks and calc. Besides why use archers when you can use the medics with guns that will almost always hit and can heal to boot. Don't even get me started on Balthier who makes the class obsolete.
I'm with you on this. In my experience katanas were weak as a phys weapon compared to regular swords and I found and the katana arts was lackluster too. Just a tanky lack luster mage. I would rather have a tanky hard hitting knight.
Ignore hieght is the most limited option to get around hieght issues, fly and teleport allow you to get around enemy units and attack from behind while teleport lets you go past your move range. Lancer is good at single target damage with polearm from short range like sticks and also long range with jump. You can just get the 8 ones to save jp
Oh, man... fond memories of Praising and Screaming at my whole crew to maximize their Blade Grasp chance while an enemy chicken hides in the corner of the map. Oh, and of Monk Ramza. No matter how many times I play, he always ends up as a Monk with Two Swords and Guts in order to handle Wiegraf.
@@WastedTalent83 Oh, I'm sure there are. I simply always arrive at the same conclusion when it comes to what I want to make Ramza, since Monks have melee, range, and support capabilities.
Mime and Bard are core for min/maxing characters. Step on the 1 LVL down trap with bard until reach LVL 1, since you don't loose a lot of stats, then switch to mime until LVL 99, since it gives the best lvl up stats.
Kinda agree with your list, from an efficiency standpoint and if it's just the job itself. I still go for basic jobs by the end of the game if it's required in battle, like using a Knight with Equip Gun + Ignore Height. He can use a gun and a shield, can break stuff or stat and second active skill usually Item for support.
#19 Bard can be useful in one sort-of-edge case; you're not "screwing over" a male character if he happens to have been granted a higher Faith than Brave stat starting out. If make that character a Calculator (which involves going thru all the magic Jobs anyway) qualifying him for Bard first and getting the HP-restore dance gives you a good secondary Job to grind JP with Calculator main -- healing is always useful, and the Calculator's natural slow speed helps extend the duration of Bardic effects! Call it the "Songstress wearing Hypello Ribbon" technique from FFX.
There are really only 3 jobs you should ever use: Mediator, Monk and Ninja. Only use the Mediator to get Solution to lower everyone's faith on your squad to 3, with Ramza have him get everyone's Brave to 97. Get everything from the Monk like Counter and Unarmed and of course all the offensive and healing abilities. Switch to Ninja, equip armor and accessories that boost strength the most (not HP), just walk around and punch everything to death, if somehow one of your Ninja Monks is hurt or dies or has a status, use the Monk abilities to heal them.
Ramza as a Monk, with Squire abilities, and equip armor is just beast mode. It makes Weirgriff 1v1 fight a joke. Just buff speed while running away til you get 2 turns to his 1, then buff attack. Then OHKO him.
My ultimate squad Knights team: Orlandu, Agrias, Beowulf, Meliadoul and Ramza with two swords (from ninja), blade grasp (samurai), speed +2 and 97 brave. Some stuff from deep dungeon (Excaliburs, Chaos blade etc.). No need for healers, buffs and magic. This team kills everything with ease and extremely fast, but takes time to get all characters and stuff from deep dungeon.
Ramza as squire with math skill, MA save, two swords and move +3 other characters as wizard with math skill, speed save or MA save , two swords and move +3 Or move +2 . Alternatively a character as monk with basic skill, speed save, two swords and either move +3 Or move +2 .
So a trick for leveling up Calculator Job Points. Calculator Speed is awful, on top of their other stats being awful. So you have to use a large number of turns, but they don't come often enough on top of them being bad. Well, once queued up, Dance and Sing both trigger after a fixed amount of time ticks, without regard for speed. Bard is easier to obtain because of shared prereqs, but Dancer is stronger in the long run because female units get +33% MA vs males getting +33% PA. So it's a long road, but you get the fastest Dance, and use it as a leveling up engine, and then flip over to the magic classes and go unlock Calculator. Leave one enemy alive in battle (and possibly CC lock and heal if you want), end turns a bunch, just go nuts. It will still take a long time, but the old-fashioned way of leveling Calculator is painful. Alternately, you could speed buff the Calculator with Ramza but it's more micromanagey.
My perfect final team is: Ramza as an square with samurai second job, Agrias as an ninja with holy knight as second, Orlandeau as sword saint, Balthier as chemist with sky pirate as second and Meliadoul as divine knight (only when I can bring a 5th character)
I would put Samurai at number one for one. IMO, big reason and that's Blade Grasp. Once you have that skill you are practically invincible to all melee and range physical attacks.
I was about to comment the same. Blade Grasp / Shirahadori is by far the most broken reaction ability in the game. I always b-line unlocking the Samurai job on characters for this ability alone.
Quick note on Thieves. Female Thieves are ridiculously useful because of the Steal Heart ability. There are more male enemies in this game than female, especially at the end of the game. Using Steal Heart gives you temporary allies if you do it to multiple enemies.
Cool list, I would have put the mediator higher for the 1 mechanic you NEED him for. Recruiting Monsters. You do want to do that because you can farm unique items off some of the rare monsters like Uribo if you let them multiply in your ranks and Poach them during a fight.
I have to agree, calculator is absolutely busted in all the right ways. Especially if you outfit your party with a certain elemental immunity and spam that one.
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One note on Squire: they also get Accumulate, which makes learning Job Skills in a reasonable time possible. All my units get this along with the JP Up you mentioned. =3
squire are made only for that, 500 jp and learn focus and gained jp up then change class.
@@WastedTalent83 Move +1 is a must have in the early game
@@vicentesantiago2681 well it sure is useful but not a must. since you can unlock black mages very easily and they can pretty much kill anything (at the start no mob or enemy have big change to dodge magic)
But yea as far as i remember i always learned move +1 too , so as i said, VERY useful but not a must.
@@WastedTalent83 no it must have lmao. i beat the game without farming anything and move + 1 is basically godsend
@@si-level well.. think what you want, its not like we need to argue about this. Move +1 get replaced as soon as you can unlock the thief class which is like lvl 3 archer, pretty early in the game, if you didn't do it, there is not much i can say..
White mage/priest is always underestimated in FFT. This class has the same speed as thieves, making it a surprisingly good late game caster. Slap time magic or yin-yang magic on for extra utility, or black magic/summons for more mp efficient damage. With endgame equipment, it’s not uncommon for the priest to be able to cast golem before some enemy units can even move.
everyone overlooks the power of HOLY
Priests get MVP award.
I alway use female priest from the start of the game cause she's so cute ☺️
Also Chemist's can only heal 150hp and 1 person at a time
What's funny about your #1 and #20 is that once you're using calculators, the mime really shines. They let the calculators spawn chain reactions and hammer much harder than they would be able to otherwise.
number 1 is what i expected.
" flashbacks to one of my friends just spamming holy with calculator."
Especially when you equip the Excalibur, so that you can instantly self-heal by purposefully hitting yourself.
Chameleon Robe, bro.
Though as David said it's better as a sub class then a main
Once my nephew entered a battle in a swamp where all enemies were undead. Used cure 3. The battle ended in the first turn.
Now imagine a black mage with calculation as secundary ability. Way faster, way more Magic Power Strenght, the same abilities.
Opened this video and thought I accidentally clicked on a video about fitness advice.
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The calculator is super broken, but it's so much fun to use. If only the spell animations didn't take so long (especially in the PSP remake)
I've seen the calculator be accused of many things, but fun to use has rarely been one of them.
Just turn off animations lol
MATH is broke, not Calculators. They're hot garbage when they're actually Calculators. Way too slow and terrible MA. I think a lot of you simply don't understand that. I mean this guy thinks Samurais have the speed on Ninjas, when they have some of the slowest speed growth in the game.
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Secré Swallowtail I’m taken. Stop flirting with me
You wore that top on purpose.
And I'm ok with that.
Something about FFT just caught so many gamers. I love how community has grown up around it through out the years.
I would love to see you rank Job Classes from other games that have them such as Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, and Dragon Quest III, VI, VII, and IX
Dayum. Wasn't expecting to be fed, but you started the video with an all-I-wanna-eat buffet.
Okay but for real tho...
cringy and creepy af
@@leonard9624 that's a gayta male
Oh, um, hello there David in a tight fitting shirt *blushes*
Bro im crying
Samurai are good when you unlock all the abilities
Basically
Hehehe at first i thought its a fitness add and not the video
"feak"?
The Monk's Chakra ability also allows for infinite JP grinding since it heals both HP and MP for no cost. Grinding with two monks (or 1 and a healing caster) makes it really easy to increase job levels very quickly, and it isn't even an expensive ability.
I'm surprised you didn't mention bladegrasp for the samurai. That ability pretty much lets you evade every physical attack.
I always have that, damage split, or speed save.
I'm going to advertise a bit and plug my mod, Final Fantasy Tactics: Emergence for the War of the Lions version. I kept all of the vanilla classes, but re-arranged skills to make each class feel more unique. I also re-arranged the job tree to make more sense (example - you get Lancers from training up Knights, not Thieves). One of the changes that ended up working beautifully was moving the Charge skillset to the Knights. It made so much more sense to give it to someone who could take a hit. If you're a fan of Tactics, check it out.
I love FF gameplay mods. Looking forward to checking it out!
Sounds good.
8:36 "(meteor)Might as well be instant death to everything it touches"
Clip he shows for it- everything hit by it survives.
I thought that too... but the key word I guess is might?
@@kurtworgan5632 well for regular enemies it pretty much is
The real issue is that it has a channeling speed of like 8 and can’t be calculated. It’s bad other than maybe early game?
@@ernestwest6861 yeah and it's nerfed in wotl like a lot of abilities other than draw out. Mel and the twins were improved though. Meteor in wotl is 20 points weaker and takes even longer to cast. There's always swift charge to help
I think the Mediator deserves a bit more love. I think it's good to bring one if you're grinding. bravery down is great, I loved turning enemies into chickens! Haven't played for a while so I don't remember the exact move name. If you mix that move with a speed down, and Razma's speed up, you can master several jobs in one battle with every char... you could skip the brave down, but then you get attacked every so often, and depending on the enemy, that can get annoying. All that said, I'm a collector type, so I really like having all jobs unlocked and mastered with every char, even if I don't use a particular job/ability.
Really? The samurai is better than the monk? Come onnn....
samurai is shit, but their skill are very good.
Meaning.. the class samurai its horrible because of stats survivability, but if you put their skill on a mage, you wipe the game.
@@WastedTalent83 Yeah but if we're talking about the classes themselves then Calc has no business being anywhere near the top 10. After all, without skills from other classes they're absolute trash.
@@barrygeistwhite3474 exactly lol but in theory you cant be calc without having done.the other classes so it's impossible to make a calculator which doesn't have skill already. also yea his skill set is strong like samurai but the class itself is garbage
I have solo beat the game with samurai skills
@@xsvmalice8541 you can solo the game.qith many single classes really. and samurai skills are strong ,so that's quite easy
A black mage with the Calc ability wrecked this game.
one time, i ask my friend whats is more powerfull in this game, and he say orlandu (no surprise there), them in my house i enter in the deep dungeon, only with orlando and my black mage with calc..... orlando with the best itens in the game.... well..... long story short..... my black mage have item to absorve holy..... than i cast holy, and i hit ALL chars in the map, killing everone orlando included with 999 damage to all.... and healing my mage....... my friend got really angry, and o was lol
@@junioze Orlandu is to OP, I prefer Meliadoul or Agrias. For obvious reason. No More Sausage Feast, I love pudding 🍮🍮
Reis with ANY magic ability wreck the game also xD
@john doe No I mean Ms. Pudding, look just think Agrias as Tifa of FFVII
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aww i love Geomancers and the Dancer's "nameless dance" has reeeeeally pulled me through some hellish battles (like when i once faced THIRTEEN MONKS on Goug Hill...ugh)
I shamefully didn't know the power of calculators until university. My friend showed me what they could do, and I never looked back after using them, And I'm glad monks were so high on your list. Sometimes I'd give my monk (usually my right hand man Rad/Ladd) the two swords ability for that fun double punch action.
I have to say that if you want to grind early (like, on Mandalia Plains early), the Mediator/Orator is VERY helpful. The main benefit is Chickening your opponents by dropping their Bravery through the floor. If you are grinding, then the level of the opponents matches your level, not where you are, and monsters do damage based on their Bravery. This means that an Orator can really help keep the enemies off of you.
Mediator can permanently raise your characters faith/brave too (it takes a while). I also prefer them for stealing items too. Thief is better for specific fights (can't invite characters from story battles) but usually random encounters will have humans that have gear from a later part of the act.
I remember playing mods of FFT (that added Blue Mage, Red Mage, Viking etc), the game has so much replayability it's crazy!
But yeah unlocking the Dark Knight job in FFT-WotL (without using guides) can be a knightmare...
I wish they had Blue and Red Mages in the Base Game. No reason to NOT include them tbh.
@@louisdellalucca8969 Having done one of the most popular PSP Hacks out there (Final Fantasy Tactics: Emergence), Blue Mage actually DOESN'T work as a class. The stats for monsters grow much differently than the stats for human characters, so giving monster abilities to humans makes them way too weak. You can affect the job's base stats to adjust for that, but that makes all of your subclass abilities totally broken. I was able to give Reis some shades of Blue Mage, because as a character she is built for that, but I had to be very picky about the abilities I let her learn.
Speaking of Mods. Did anybody know if there an update for the Chapter 2 of FFT - Journey of the Five?
It's probably easier to get than level 8 onion knight and sooooooooooo op
After playing Tactics so many times, I game sharked the heck out it having Elmdor and Assassins on my team. 😂
Mediator/Orator one the best class. When put him TELEPORT , his is just IMBA. His use gun (to best gun stone) and have so match high % to use his skills, sleep or invite. Play this game around 1000 h , make all master job normal character 5 tims. in playstaion 1 x2, ps vita x2 and androind x1. Mediator always is me main team.
OMG, your story of getting the game at 15 and playing countless times mirrors my experience! I love this game and still enjoy it to this day. My boyfriend (who is a non-gamer) likes to sit down and watch as I play. Thank you for posting this!
Hey, the Orator might suck as a class, but it does have some pretty effective utility. Monsters might be inflexible, but some are stupidly powerful (like the Red Chocobo and the freaking Tiamat). However, there's another use for taking them on your team; keep them on your roster, then breed them to produce a neverending supply of POACHING fodder! You can get a whole bunch of rare and expensive items not available anywhere else through this method. The Wild Boar in particular can ONLY be obtained this way, and its subspecies are themselves so incredibly rare that you're better off inviting them into your party rather than poaching them when you find them and hoping for the best.
Also, Orators can be used to recruit enemy humans. This can be useful for a number of reasons. One, you can get new human units that are actually at your your level, rather than get stuck training a level 1 squire from the ground up. Two, you can potentially get a class you haven't unlocked yet, or don't have in high numbers, saving you from more grinding. And three, you can take their stuff after the battle and then just get rid of them. Or kill them and have one of your existing units take an ability from them, heh, heh, heh.
that's exactly how you use monsters hahahaha, poaching material XD
This is still my favorite game of all time, I just wish when Square made the game they would have added more variety to the classes of enemies you’d fight instead of just wizards, knights, and archers the entire game. They use a few others here and there but unfortunately you don’t get to fight many of them
That is what the Deep Dungeon is about.
I knew the Calculator would be #1 lol
My Monk just missed the Bronze, but that's okay, I'm just happy he's that high on the list. Besides, I agree with the top 3 myself
I think the Geomancer class is underrated. It's one of the few classes that Agrias can use and still have her Holy Sword ability, and it's also useful to get extra Xp each battle by having a few ranged options to help with leveling up :)
How is Geomancy better than Draw Out or Summon?
geo is kinda weird as its magic benefits from both physical and magic+ as well as the job traits that raise physical and magical dmg. geo magic also dosent factor faith (dont think drawout factors faith as well tho) makeing there magic effective aginst low faith targets. Geos real weakness is there bad/odd stat growth@@Greatermaxim
Besides the JP Up ability, I feel like the Squires shout ability is pretty underrated. Makes it super easy when kiting out the Weigraf 1v1, as well as being free xp and JP when you're not in range of anything. it's like throwing rocks at your teammates for free JP without a chance of missing or doing damage
Thanks for the tip
the mime has best growth stats in the game, you could use the lvl degenerator strategy to give characters busted hp, magic and attack stats
Mime, White mage, and Monk are top 3 in stat growth. Mime only really sucks in MP growth.
Where is the challenge? Try beating the game with a single class and without buffing them.
My top 10
1. Calculator
2. Samurai
3. Monk
4. Knight
5. Ninja
6. Time Mage
7. Black Mage
8. Chemist
9. Thief
10. Summoner
Summoners can easily get killed before they cast their summons.
Knights are OP with their ability to equip Knight Swords combined with Dual Wield (Excalibur + Chaos Blade) and some end game High HP gears.
Thieves are awesome and Secret Hunt and Catch are useful skills for finding rare items.
Samurai's usefulness is when Draw Out skill +/Blade Grasp is equipped by mages.
My perfect combination was Ramza as a monk with the two hit ability of the ninjas. The guy alone destroyed the first form of the final boss in one attack, and the final form in two attacks i think, with just his bare hands!!!. So much fun to play!
Me: Ooo, David finally made this video. I want to hear his thoughts on all of the classes!
David: #20, the Mime.
Me: Yeah.... so we're gonna disagree on this one. :D
I don't care for the mime all that much either. They can be good situationally teamed up with calculators, or dancers etc., but for how much trouble they are to unlock I'd rather spend that amount of time/grinding powering up different classes like summoner, time mage, black mage, ninja, or samurai.
@@acidwizard6528 Teaming up with Calculators is the ONLY reason I'd ever run a Mime. Otherwise, they are just too finicky.
@@shadowtheimpure A team of dancers and mime can be effective as well since dancer skills hit all enemies, then it will be copied by the mime thereby spamming attacks that hit all enemies.
Mimes are also good for having the best growth stats except in mp
@@acidwizard6528 Or you can have other dancers. I always had two doing nameless dance from the beginning and I felt sorry for the poor enemies.
Fuck I love this game. The music throughout this video gave me goosebumps. Your breakdown of the classes, as usual, is thorough and inspired. Love your videos. Would love more ranking videos like this, can't get enough of videos like this one and the FFV job ranking.
Great vid! Loved the in front of camera bit in the beginning. Adds your own signature stamp and i love it. Id say bring the mic closer.
You forgot the Onion Knight and Dark Knight.
He's operating from the original version of the game, which didn't have those classes.
Still need input.
Well, you have the guns. Good to see you in front of the camera.
I just commented about the guns too. I’m late though 🤣🤣
I like how you used the alternate names in your voice over while displaying the official names on-screen. If I ever (for some insane reason) make a video talking about FF1, I'll probably do that with FIGHTER/Warrior and B.BELT/Monk.
Surprised mages are that high, but we need more intros like this too... Breaks the stereotype most have for RPG gamers...
Knight with two swords is a powerhouse. That's how my brother and I finally defeated Wiegraf and Velius
I used a bard alot. perpetual speed buff is nice for cheesing battle especially if you get a couple rounds to prepare. You can look at this list a couple different ways. Best standalone classes or jobs with great skills you can use for your final "built" job class.
Now do a video ranking the unique jobs, like engineer, holy knight, mystic knight, etc.
Though we know heavenly knight will be at the top.
That or sword saint. Though I prefer templer mystic with a sword
we all know orlandu is going first lol he isstronger than calculators with that fricking excalibur xD
@@WastedTalent83 I rarely bother using him actually. By the time I get him, my original 5 are rocking mastered Tier 4 and combination classes LOL I decide after the second battle which will be my male squire, female squire, male chemist, and female chemist and build the fuck out of them. By the time I murder Algus and open that last space for my full team, I have 2 ninjas with ignore height, a mastered monk with elemental, a healer with chakra, and Deleta is usually knight or monk.
Always fun seeing how the party ends up by chapter 3.
Funny thing, I bought this game before I even owned a Playstation... or a memory card. Was pretty intense seeing Goug Machine City opened up for the first time. Finding a scrap of paper and something to write with to record what is needed to open ninja and samurai the first time a character has that opened up.
Over the past decades since then, I've built a master save with far too many hours, and still find myself starting over again from time to time... just to relive that feeling of opening the map and unlocking the classes and unfolding each character toward it's end shape of this secondary (mastered), this reaction, this support, and this movement...
FF Tactics is one of the handful of games that I will always come back to, and always will. Original 20 class, slow as molasses in January text at the beginning of Chapter One... The Meager. . .and just typing it out I can hear the background music as the messenger comes in, the 'thuk' of the door, Fall in, we have a mission.
Ah, good times. :{)
@@kainshannarra2451 yea, science should make a technology that is able to erase only "certain" memories , so that you can experience your "first time" again.
those first time , never come back, and its such a sad thing XD
FFT
FF7
Castlevania.
King of fighters 96 and many others for me.
About orlandu.. i only used him my first play through, after that, all the times i started a new game, never used him again, he is too op and break the game basically. And i enjoy a some difficulty while i play
Ah, I remember this game when i was a kid. I still remember solo'ing the end game solo as Ramza using Holy on the monsters in the pitch black while wielding excalibur. Ramza for some reason got way more hp as a squire then as a knight so thats what I kept him as when I hit max level. calculator is broken. He was the first character I mastered all the job classes with.
David.. we need to talk, if you keep getting buffed we will need a wider screen, please stop...
As for FF I loved the dark knight, first play trough on ps1 I was sad mastering all classes and seeing that we weret able to access that class (at least we had Orlandu :p) PSP FF tactics made a good calla dding both Holy and Dark knight classes :).
Great video. You should consider a break down of skills to get from the various jobs.
Sad that the two staples in my party, are also the lowest here hahaha
I love FFT, but the thing I never liked is that near the end of the game it just starts throwing super soldiers at you, so all the classes you've carefully built up and trained from level 1 don't even fit on the field anymore, because you'd be insane to not be using your "generals". By the time you find out about Zalbag, you're just god-mode'ing through battles.
By the end of the game, the only generic unit I'd use is a Summoner, since it takes so long to get all their attacks, wasn't worth spending time on the main people to train them in it.
I have 2 mimes in my party, a bard, a dancer, and a summoner with math skill.
Bard sings a song that increases either speed for more turns or magic attack. Tripled by the two mimes.
Dancer does the nameless dance that plagues the enemy party with all the status ailments. Tripled by the two mimes.
The summoner nukes the enemy party with a barage of magic, for free without cast time. Tripled by the two mimes.
I had a lot of fun with this setup!
Dual wield with knight swords is pretty much one shot any enemies
I like Monk as a dual wielder. :)
Shucks, that's what my old childhood pal did with a Paladin in FFTA
Doublehand much better, trust me
@@prayogasiswanto5940 I always felt like double hand ran into the damage cap, but 2 500+ damage hits from dual wield got around that.
All the finesse of a hammer
But then again a hammer doesn't need it
this is one of my fav games growing up! I was so hyped about it I had to get the japanese version before the english one came out. I'm so glad to find your channel!
Great video! But I love the Mime! It is somewhat of a pain to base your whole battle strategy off this character but a fun and challenging way to play this is having two mimes on your team, a male and a female!
I was planning on starting a new playthrough of War of The Lions at some point, and thanks to your video I now have some great ideas for party make ups! Thumbs up! It was a big help!
Another great list! I am currently playing an All Calculator party and it is hilarious! Math geeks for the win!
A shit list.
i agree of lots of what you said but in general fft key of success is to create hybrid characters through picking the goodstuff of each class and mix it to create awesome builds, you will be surprised by how fun and crazy powerful things will be i remember i had a knight that is basically can't be hit by magic nor melee &range physical attacks !!
Nope, I'm never using Calculator again. It was fun for about 2 battles; then I quickly realized I had to spend 10 minutes every time he got a turn checking the HP, CT, brave, faith, etc. of every single character on the field in order to determine what the optimum spell combo was. It's very effective, but it also drags out the total play time past the point where it's worth it.
I dunno why hearing about job classes is so relaxing for me
Would love to see a video on the jobs of Tactics Advance or A2, be fun to see how the jobs rank up especially since you have to equip items to learn skills, see if that affects their ranking
This is a tough game to rank on with the secondary skills. For my play style, a magic user (summoner, priest, or black mage) with the Calculator skill is the most dominant character in any RPG i have ever played. I have obliterated armies in one move before. Tough grind for them, but if you just send them on missions at the bar, piece of cake. Total game breaker
I would say the Seer in FFTA2 is even more powerful than Calculator. Like the Calculator, it also needs to master other jobs to make the best use of its Magick Frenzy ability. It basically allows you to cast any damaging spell you have equipped, and follow it up with a regular attack on every enemy that was hit. Illusion magick hits all enemies on the map, so you can see how Magick Frenzy makes it even better. It's great for basically any stat build since the damage evens out regardless of if you go full magick, full attack or a hybrid. The downside is that you can only use rods which have a very low attack stat. One alternative use for Frenzy is to use the Seer's innate -Ara spells with stronger weapons on a damage based class, allowing you to do much greater damage to just a few enemies. Ninjutsu magic is kind of useless on its own since it deals next to no damage (I think about half of a base Fire spell) but it costs very little MP and, of course, can also be Frenzied to make the Ninjas amazing at sniping single targets with Dual Wield attacks..
If you ever play disgaea 5, there is a class called "Sage" which is female only. Disgaea 5 Sage girl is the calculator of FF tactics. She has the unique skill "Land decimate" which you can perform 6 times in one turn, and it hits all enemies, (don't forget to equip "softening aura" on allies to make them immune to ally attacks!!). Also, more enemies you target with Land decimate, more damage you get! Believe me, I've been able to solo many maps in disgaea 5 with sage girl. The only downside to land decimate is the 50% accuracy, but even then 6 attacks in the same turn will almost always finish the map.
I just built a team around sage girl and got other characters to tank hits for her, just so I can use land decimate even more! XD
But is seems he is not taking secondary skills into consideration, he is evaluating then individually.
David Kings clearly. I actually like the geomancer secondary skill for my lancer. It allows for ranged attacks with decent attack
I would put dancer in my top 3, mainly due to the status effect dance (forget the name). You put a dancer in the back with that dance going and you can mess up all the enemies with a decent consistency.
Right now on this new campaign I started Im running with a time mage, a summoner, a ninja, agrias, and a thief. Its hilarious I just imagine the ninja thief and holy knight just whipping around the map and dabbing on monsters picking their pockets stealing loot and then just dropping a gigantic titan on their heads when I get done stealing.
10:58 "A BADASS" 😂😂😂
Thank you!
My favorite job is samurai but not the traditional one. Back in the day I built a Black Mage Ramza with double swords to put 2 wizard rods (maximizing the magic stat), blade grasp with 97 brave to reach 97% dodge chance and teleport.
The strat was very simple, just teleport Ramza in the middle of the guys and Draw Muramasa (draw out is based on Magic Attack) to instakill every single one.
Of course I had access to draw out buffs (shell/ protect) and 300+ insta heals to everyone too.
I miss this.
3:16 Hahah, Ramza bored himself to sleep
Ramza with draw out as a squire with magic boosting gear was the only thing to compete with Orlando outside of calculator. Give him damage split and defense up and the highest damage he could ever take was 274. He was basically invincible once he got the Robe of Lord's.
Well, I am a fool. I never tried the Calculator class.
tag it with the Squire JP up Support skill and throw all your equipments that increases speed on it. Otherwise, you'll be turned off by its super slow speed. Grind JP the hell out of it and switch out to a different Mage class once you've mastered all the calculation skills.
The Calculator class itself isn't one you want to have your units stay in due to its low stat growth
@xheralt that's actually a much better plan then speed items. In fact, if the enemy team has range, throw the ninja reaction that turns them invisible. Dance doesn't breaks invisibility. So long as you just have them wait, you're garenteed to have the calculator mastered in no time!
Me neither, but I am not interested either.
Math is the most broken thing ever in tactical RPG.
You have to grind like crazy to even access it, and then there's filling out its spell set. If you don't know about it already, you'll probably never see it, except maybe as an enemy in VOYAGE. No shame in not having used one. 🙂
#16 Orator/Mediator You can pick up some really good characters via Invite! That battle against Malik, with Ninjas & Summoners? The ninjas are highly developed compared to most typical party members at that stage, and successfully Inviting one makes the battle SO much easier. If you get one of the Summoners instead, you've neutralized an Enemy big gun. Even of you don't keep the character, you can strip the gear for sale or party use then ditch the character without consequence!
You know it is good game when you keep coming back to playing. I did the same never regret it.
From what I remember, Calculators are super slow, so once I mastered the job for one of my units, I turned him back to a wizard but with calculator skills as secondary. SO broken. Great for mass healing and mass destruction all at once!
you remember well, they also have very low magic attack, in fact the class is as bad as samurai lol, you just learn the skill tree and use their skill with other classes.
@@WastedTalent83 the calculator stats don't stack well with none magican class jobs. You might want to pair the calculator as a secondary with summoner as main.
@@flynnparish9833 the point about calculator is , istant cast no range limit, its not the damage.
@@flynnparish9833 The Summoner is slow too.
Oh wow, you recording voice (starting with the Mime) is so different from your intro voice. Didn't even realize you were YOU at the start. Also, you've gotten told this a lot, but buff as hell, man. I'm with you in that I'll grind a little for an item or a build that makes finishing the game more straightforward, but outside of a pretty select few games, I'm not going to grind everything and master everything. I have other stories to experience! Sure, that worked 10+ years ago when I had a limited library of games and there was a lot of backstory and lore to tease out of them, but nowadays, it's just not necessary (or feasible), and even then I had to like the game a loot to go that deep.
Love your content and gj on the brains and brawn categories. :D
EDIT: But one gripe...WHM is NOT useless. You say in Squire that the prior classes aren't useful. Maybe it's the way we play the games, but WHM I used a LOT, and many of my other casters had WHM as a sub-class for extra healing. Maybe I just sucked when I played this game at...14 or so years old, but I got a LOT of use out of WHM and CHM. I do agree with a lot of your list, but not that one.
Love this video David! Happy you did this video on one of my favorite games of all time!! Love this game since a child, played the heck out of it back then and still do now. The Dark Knight is my fav class from the PSP version. :)
Bard's are actually really good because you can put him in the corner have him sing his life healing spell and basically you don't have to worry about healing your Fighters anymore
His healing spell takes too long and does insignificant healing. Waste of a unit. You're better off having a chemist, a fighting unit, or a monk, who can heal hp and mp and also be able to attack
I honestly love the knight skills once learned and on a ranged class it can break equipment and stats at a distance.
Master Chemist, get Auto-Potion, 99 X-Potions in inventory (no Hi or regular potions), use Ramza's ability to permanently increase Brave stat (takes some time, but can eventually reach 96 or something like that) to virtually ensure that Auto-Potion activates ANY TIME damage is taken. That's +250 (I believe) healed whenever you take a hit, and most enemies won't even hit that hard, so you'll rarely if ever need to waste any turns on healing. You can completely forego any of the Mage classes and focus entirely on physical damage-dealing.
This setup makes you pretty much unstoppable. You can put it on any class. But really, all you need to do is just have an entire team of Monks (who come equipped with high offense, ranged, and healing abilities themselves) with Auto-Potion and you can steamroll everything. You can even take the time to put this on Cid if you really want to break things.
Loved this list, thank you for making! FFT is my all-time fav game, along with super Metroid
Grew up playing FFT, and it wasn't until the PSP remake that I tried calculator. Blew my mind, playing calculator with all mage classes mastered and then summoner skills set as the character's secondary and teleport for movement. If the odds work out, is there any more badass move than teleporting to somewhere unreachable and then casting death on everyone in the field? Who knew that math majors were so POWERFUL.
Knight abilities are a good way to cripple enemies and like charge can be used with a variety of weapons including guns and double weapons from 2 swords and will actually activate twice which is pretty cool.
I am replaying this game right now and have an awesome diverse team. Curious what your favorite combos are for a few of your favorite jobs.
Before I watch this, let me guess: calculator #1 eh? Should be, that job is broken as hell.
Some notes as I watch:
-Mime is great for min-maxing, since it has the best stat grow of any generic. If you want to min-max (not that you need to) this is the class to do it with.
-Archer: this one is funny. The team behind Tactics Ogre is the same team (more or less) behind FFT. My guess is they were so afraid to make archers OP again, that then nerfed them to the ground. Funny how they didn't do that to the Ninja tho...
-Squire: in the vanilla game they have Yell, which increased speed by +1. If you ever played FFT you know how broken speed is. Just yell a few times, then do laps around everyone on the map, before they even get one turn of their own. Ramza's squire is also a special one. Don't sleep on it.
-Knight: they can break stats.. STATS! And they can do that 2x with Two Swords. See how much that boss will do to you, with no PA, no MA and no speed lol Broken class.
-Black Mage: magick attack up is the best thing here. Spells are too slow late game, but nice early game.
-Time Mage: Should be #2. OP as hell. Best support class, and Demi2 always does 1/2 target HP, meaning there are only a few bosses in the game, that can take two casts of this and not die (due to the damage limit being 999)
-Calculator: yup, yup... If broken was broken, it would still not be as broken as this guy.
Isn't Yell exclusive only to Ramza and Luso? (And only to Ramza in the original game)
@@SeventhheavenDK Could be.
archers are OP to u just dont know how to play them -.-
@@fernandoametller6535 No they are not compared to monks and calc. Besides why use archers when you can use the medics with guns that will almost always hit and can heal to boot. Don't even get me started on Balthier who makes the class obsolete.
@@borponoida9161 do u got guns at early game
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haha monks were so OP, I remeber in the last battle I showed up with like 5 of them a healer/stat booster and just obliterated everything in my path
It's an older video but thanks for sharing dude! I'm just about to hop into this game for the 2nd time (never got far the first time).
Hard disagree on the Samurai. You need to seek out the higher level katana and they break all the time. Plus, they are slow as hell.
I'm with you on this. In my experience katanas were weak as a phys weapon compared to regular swords and I found and the katana arts was lackluster too. Just a tanky lack luster mage.
I would rather have a tanky hard hitting knight.
Gill Marrow I will say that the their skills are great, but probably in the hands of a more powerful magic class.
Ignore hieght is the most limited option to get around hieght issues, fly and teleport allow you to get around enemy units and attack from behind while teleport lets you go past your move range. Lancer is good at single target damage with polearm from short range like sticks and also long range with jump. You can just get the 8 ones to save jp
I'm surprised I'm not the only one that still has that book.
Oh, man... fond memories of Praising and Screaming at my whole crew to maximize their Blade Grasp chance while an enemy chicken hides in the corner of the map.
Oh, and of Monk Ramza. No matter how many times I play, he always ends up as a Monk with Two Swords and Guts in order to handle Wiegraf.
there are like 32343252 to handle wiegraf with many build XD i feel so many people never understood the "tactics" part of this FF !!
@@WastedTalent83 Oh, I'm sure there are. I simply always arrive at the same conclusion when it comes to what I want to make Ramza, since Monks have melee, range, and support capabilities.
Ignore height is a major game changer. A monk, with two-swords, and ignore heights= beastly//nasty. Glass cannon//DPS monster
Teleport and fly are both better
Mime and Bard are core for min/maxing characters. Step on the 1 LVL down trap with bard until reach LVL 1, since you don't loose a lot of stats, then switch to mime until LVL 99, since it gives the best lvl up stats.
Kinda agree with your list, from an efficiency standpoint and if it's just the job itself. I still go for basic jobs by the end of the game if it's required in battle, like using a Knight with Equip Gun + Ignore Height. He can use a gun and a shield, can break stuff or stat and second active skill usually Item for support.
#19 Bard can be useful in one sort-of-edge case; you're not "screwing over" a male character if he happens to have been granted a higher Faith than Brave stat starting out. If make that character a Calculator (which involves going thru all the magic Jobs anyway) qualifying him for Bard first and getting the HP-restore dance gives you a good secondary Job to grind JP with Calculator main -- healing is always useful, and the Calculator's natural slow speed helps extend the duration of Bardic effects! Call it the "Songstress wearing Hypello Ribbon" technique from FFX.
There are really only 3 jobs you should ever use: Mediator, Monk and Ninja. Only use the Mediator to get Solution to lower everyone's faith on your squad to 3, with Ramza have him get everyone's Brave to 97. Get everything from the Monk like Counter and Unarmed and of course all the offensive and healing abilities. Switch to Ninja, equip armor and accessories that boost strength the most (not HP), just walk around and punch everything to death, if somehow one of your Ninja Monks is hurt or dies or has a status, use the Monk abilities to heal them.
Ramza as a Monk, with Squire abilities, and equip armor is just beast mode. It makes Weirgriff 1v1 fight a joke. Just buff speed while running away til you get 2 turns to his 1, then buff attack. Then OHKO him.
My ultimate squad Knights team: Orlandu, Agrias, Beowulf, Meliadoul and Ramza with two swords (from ninja), blade grasp (samurai), speed +2 and 97 brave. Some stuff from deep dungeon (Excaliburs, Chaos blade etc.). No need for healers, buffs and magic.
This team kills everything with ease and extremely fast, but takes time to get all characters and stuff from deep dungeon.
Ramza as squire with math skill, MA save, two swords and move +3 other characters as wizard with math skill, speed save or MA save , two swords and move +3 Or move +2 . Alternatively a character as monk with basic skill, speed save, two swords and either move +3 Or move +2 .
So a trick for leveling up Calculator Job Points. Calculator Speed is awful, on top of their other stats being awful. So you have to use a large number of turns, but they don't come often enough on top of them being bad.
Well, once queued up, Dance and Sing both trigger after a fixed amount of time ticks, without regard for speed. Bard is easier to obtain because of shared prereqs, but Dancer is stronger in the long run because female units get +33% MA vs males getting +33% PA.
So it's a long road, but you get the fastest Dance, and use it as a leveling up engine, and then flip over to the magic classes and go unlock Calculator. Leave one enemy alive in battle (and possibly CC lock and heal if you want), end turns a bunch, just go nuts. It will still take a long time, but the old-fashioned way of leveling Calculator is painful. Alternately, you could speed buff the Calculator with Ramza but it's more micromanagey.
My perfect final team is: Ramza as an square with samurai second job, Agrias as an ninja with holy knight as second, Orlandeau as sword saint, Balthier as chemist with sky pirate as second and Meliadoul as divine knight (only when I can bring a 5th character)
I would put Samurai at number one for one. IMO, big reason and that's Blade Grasp. Once you have that skill you are practically invincible to all melee and range physical attacks.
I was about to comment the same. Blade Grasp / Shirahadori is by far the most broken reaction ability in the game. I always b-line unlocking the Samurai job on characters for this ability alone.
Quick note on Thieves. Female Thieves are ridiculously useful because of the Steal Heart ability. There are more male enemies in this game than female, especially at the end of the game. Using Steal Heart gives you temporary allies if you do it to multiple enemies.
Cool list, I would have put the mediator higher for the 1 mechanic you NEED him for. Recruiting Monsters.
You do want to do that because you can farm unique items off some of the rare monsters like Uribo if you let them multiply in your ranks and Poach them during a fight.
The monk with the Ninja two attack ability is the most devastating physical attacker in the game. You can do almost a thousand damage per turn.
I have to agree, calculator is absolutely busted in all the right ways. Especially if you outfit your party with a certain elemental immunity and spam that one.
Always made ramza a squire with dual wield, thief skills for secondary, hamedo for counter, maintenance for passive and move three for movement.
I always end up with Ramza as a monk with two sword equip. After a few yells and accumulates, i move in for the one shot of Weigraf lol.