The Do-335 is one of the most interesting and coolest planes of that age. That end of the prop age was definitely the "muscle car period" of aviation. Have been thrilled to see many of these in flight at the Reno air races over the decades. But, when my son was about 10 had a business trip to DC and we went to many of the Smithsonians, including to see the 335 which was new and amazing to both of us. Great vid.
Funny thing is, prior to being refurbished, the explosive charge for detaching the rear propeller in an emergency was never removed, and the Dornier engineers were horrified that it could've blown up at any moment.
@@jacoblunn29 While the Do 335 was equipped with an ejection seat, it was not as powerful as modern ejection seats, and could not guarantee getting the pilot far enough away from the plane not to hit the tail; accordingly, provisions were made to blow off the upper vertical tail and rear propellor during the ejection procedure. One of the pilots in "Watson's Whizzers", flying one of the captured Do 335s after the war, was killed when this system was triggered accidentally.
As an addendum, when the Smithsonian sent its Do335 to the Dornier plant in Germany for restoration, the workers found that the explosive charges for the ejection seat were still live; no one had thought to deactivate them since it was taken from Germany at the end of the war.
The Dornier Do 335 isn't the only aircaft with a propeller at either end. There's also the Cessna Skymaster, a civilian plane built by Cessna from the 1960s to the 1980s. Of course, despite its rather metal name the Skymaster wasn't likely to become the target of Captain America and his Howling Commandos ...
Very nice. I actually saw this at the museum and wondered why I hadn't heard of it before. The fact that there were only 37 explains that. Great video! Thank you for all the time and hard work.
I saw this plane at the Udvar-Hazy Annex of the National Air & Space Museum. The surviving example is awesome sitting there. The museum itself is one of the best in the DC area, well worth the drive or metro ride out to Dulles. Be sure to take the guided tour with a docent. One of the times we went, the guide was a former 747 pilot/flight engineer with Pan AM, and one docent was a witness to Hiroshima, relevant because Enola Gay is one of the exhibit planes.
I've seen this plane in person one of the last surviving examples is on display at the udvar-hazy center in Chantilly, Virginia, USA, owned by the Smithsonian. They have a whole German collection. Truly an awesome sight to see. Out of all of them I saw. Even the Horton flying wing... this one is by far the coolest one on display.
Im happy that despite youtube beeing censored more and more you still continue to put the Nazi cross (idk the name in english) on your models. Its rare nowadays to see someone not beeing affected by cancel culture
That one isn't what we think of as modern "cancel culture" though. In Germany in particular, and I believe a couple of other European nations, it's against the law to display the swastika. In Germany, it has been since the 1950s, I think. The Balkenkreuz on the fuselage and wings is fine (as, like the Maltese cross, it was historically intended as a symbol for Germany in general and not THAT political party in particular) - it's just the swastika that's against the law. It's still OK to use for educational purposes, so (for instance) it's OK on a restored aircraft at a museum, but not in anything sold to the mass market, or used for commercial purposes. Likewise, religions that have historically used the swastika get a pass (although that original design was actually mirrored by the Germans, so, the German version is backwards). So, for any video, model kit, video game, etc. that wants a no-fuss entry into the European market, it's omitted. There are workarounds - some model kit manufacturers, for instance, leave it off the box art, and then use a two-piece decal to replicate it on the actual model. I'm guessing this video, if it's available in a German translation, clips it out on an alternate rendering to avoid the legal issues - or just sticks a floating dot over it.
I shot one down in War Thunder while I was in a biplane, it was something like a 5+ level kill, as was my custom I would take a biplane to maximum altitude and loiter at the edge of the battle and keep an eye on things, this was in a fjord type environment, lots of steep snowy mountains like Norway etc, I saw the DO as he dropped height and went to sneak up a fjord and dropped in on him, I managed to get my interception perfect and was able to shoot the pilot through the roof of the cockpit with my two ancient weapons and down he went.
Strange how a modern-style engine brake such as used on riding lawnmowers could have eliminated the need for the explosive charges in the tail and prop. Or at least reduced the odds of pilot injury down to that of or near the risk of bailing out of a conventional-tailed aircraft...
I saw the 335 at the Air & Space museum near Dulles. It was huge! Much bigger than what you might imagine. I have no doubt if this thing had been mass produced, it would have kept Germany in the war. Obviously in 1945, Germany was in no shape to do much of anything.
Agree...I still don't understand why Hitler and pals would'nt just buy, say a tenth of them and then make them fly in all propaganda movies possible. It propably would have driven Allied air strategists to terminal dysentery.
I've been a big fan of the Cessna Skymaster since I was a kid, and I've often wondered how the Do-335 influenced the Cessna engineers. Look it up online. It's a fascinating airplane.
Absolutely. The main advantages is you get twin engine performance and redundancy with the aircraft cross section of a single engine plane and none of the negative asymmetric thrust issues of a conventional wing mounted multi engine plane.
The Dornier model prefix is pronounced "Dee Oh". Manufacturers were abbreviated in RLM nomenclature by their name's first 2 letters, or in the case of makers such as Blohm und Voss and Focke Wulf, the first letters of each part of their company name, which would yield BV ("Bee Vee") and FW ("Eff Double-You"). The Dornier model prefix was not pronounced as "Doe", nor was Messerschmitt "Mee", or Heinkel as "Hee". The incorrect usage of these prefixes, in this video and across the platform is rather irritating and promotes ignorance. That aside, I do appreciate this choice of subject. The Do-335 was an amazing aircraft but was ultimately relegated to obsolescence due to the advent of jet aircraft near the end of the Second World War.
If you're going to be that pedantic, then you should pronounce them in German. And guess what... in German, unless it was two consonants, they did not pronounce the individual letters, but the sound they made. So Me=Mayy, Do=dho, Ju=Yooh, etc...
Couldn't agree more, it was annoying me too. It just makes these videos sound unprofessional and inaccurate. Have you heard his pronunciation of 'Nene' as 'nay nay'?!
The dual-fuselage DO-635 would have been a strong platform for towing the big gliders like the Gigant. This would have been a fascinating plane, had it ever been built.
The complexity of having two separate fuselage connected like that seems counter productive. It would have been interesting to get a sneak peek at the drawings for it. Even if it wasn't completed I'm sure there were a lot of detailed drawings ranging from the early "whish lists" to the paired down more realistic designs along with notes on how they thought it should work and why they skipped or reworked some of the early ideas.
According to Eric Brown, renowned British test Pilot who flew the arrow, the rear engine had a nasty habit of overheating. Not an easily dealt with issue. ---Also, the ejection seat was not used by at least two pilots who were brought down in Dornier 335's. They didn't eject due to their arms having already been torn off by the canopy when trying to release the lever type hold downs. You needed a very good grip on those levers and then the slipstream tore the canopy from the airframe along with the pilot's arms!
That doesn't add up, Their hands would have to be hand cuffed to the canopy lever to tear your arms off when the canopy jettisons. Normally anything stronger than our grip results in what ever you are holding being ripped out of your hand.
“The Nazis ever built “ a powerful cliche, for your info, Dr Claude Dornier wasn’t a “Nazi” was a brilliant German Aeronautical Engineer, his love was to built Aerplanes.
This is hands down my favorite bomber interceptor in WarThunder. It’s almost unfair how fast it can climb, the cannons, and it’s ability to get away from fighters.
I built this model when I was thirteen I believe it was Morgan Revell or Tamiya that made it in the 1/72. Scale, I marveled for hours just on it looks compared to the 100 models air planes from WWI and II and following aircraft i had built and most of them hanging on my ceiling. 1973 circa. Neat plane
Not bad coverage of the 335 BUT you missed a whole important version...The 2 seat version was made for 2 reasons not just as a trainer but also as a night fighter...also the version where they added 2 more 20 mm cannons (1 in each wing)...To make a easy comparison on size the 335 is basically the same size as a B-25 bomber
I had a model kit of one of these when I was a kid and it let you build it with the single cockpit or the double. The double looked cooler so I built it like that. ;-)
One thing that's always stuck out to me is that despite being German, I always found "Dornier" to be a very French sounding name and hearing the founder being named "Claude Dornier" only adds to that curiosity.
Is it me or does the double cockpit remind anyone of a Mil MI-24 Hind? It's like removing the top rotor, turned the tail rotor facing backwards, slapped a regular prop and some wings on and boom. In any case, cool plane go nyoom.
Sigh. I don’t really play the German pronunciation pedant, but if this helps going forward, I’ll take the hit. So, first things first - you pronounced Claude Dorniers name correctly, which should be a tip-off as to how to pronounce the ‘Do’ in the plane models. But as a simple way to remember this would be that it should sound like the English word ‘Doe’ (as in ‘female deer’). So, if you see a Dornier plane model, remember your Julie Andrews in ‘the sound of music’ and say ‘Dornier Doe 335’. Some other brands, best as I can: Messerschmitt - ‘Em-ay’ for ‘Me’ (in German, the letter ‘e’ sounds more like the English letter ‘a’.) Heinkel - best approximation would be ‘Hay’ for ‘He’. Junkers - ‘You’ for ‘Ju’. And now the trickier ones… Henschel - their models were usually preceded by ‘Hs’ but I never heard those two letters slurred together like the previous manufacturers prefixes. It was always just ‘Hah-Ess’. Blohm & Voss - ‘BV’ It, like the Henschel prefix above didn’t have the letters slurred together but pronounced individually - so ‘Bay-pfau’ (where the ‘au’ at the end sounds like the English ‘ow’. Lastly, Focke-Wulf. Which had two commonly used prefixes. ‘FW’ is ‘eff-way’ as it is another one where even in German, pronounced each letter rather than slurred them together. For the Kurt Tank designs (such as the Ta-152), ‘Ta’ was used, and this was slurred together as ‘Tah’. I think I hit all the big ones here. I’m sure a proper German linguist could do much better, but I hope this helps. Btw, as a kid, I saw the Do 335 while it was on display in the German museum in Munich (the Smithsonian loaned it out for a period of 10 years post restoration after which it was returned to Washington) and one thing that’s hard to really gauge is just how utterly huge that plane is. They had a Messerschmitt 109 partially parked underneath its left wing and it looked tiny by comparison.
This is one of my favorite aircraft of all time, and I was lucky enough to see it in DC. Even though I knew it was a big plane, it doesn't really register until you see it in person. Interesting thought....what if this had been made in enough numbers to have multiple survivors, and what if some of those ended up as racers @ Reno? I can only imagine how fast this thing could go after some mild hot rodding!
A curiosity, Pierre Closterman, was Brazilian by birth and was the greatest ace of French aviation in WWII. His father was a French diplomat working in Brazil, but when the war broke out, Pierre insisted on going to England to join the the fight
If you think *this* bird was wacky, check out the Siemens-Schuckhart Dr-I, which also featured a push/pull engine configuration. Unlike some of their other fighters (Siemens-Schuckhart D-III/D-IV) which were built in considerable numbers, only a single prototype of their Dr-I was ever built. It was equipped with two Siemens-Halske SH-III bi-rotational engines, where the cylinders spun one way and the propeller the other. (This same bi-rotational engine made the Siemens-Schuckhart D-IV *the* fastest climbing fighter in WWI.)
This was one of my most favorite plane designs I love it, I think this thing could of been a monster if had enough time hey I think we should restore the last airframe to fly one last time
@@lucasokeefe7935 A little like the last flying Lancaster in England. It is the last of its kind, as a pilot named it when flying it with a huge respect! I had hoped to see it over Denmark, as a memorial flight, but it never came to my home on Sealand.
Actually many aircraft manufacturers have teams dedicated to restoring old aircraft, many cases manned by retirees that worked on them. I was at Grumman when they restored F5F's and at Boeing (formerly Douglas) whilethey restored a DC2
You can fly this thing in War Thunder, and if you're well versed in energy fighting and baiting your opponents into vertical manufacturers, that force them to lose their speed while allowing you to exploit your superior power to weight ratio, it cleans house!
I prefer original pictures, but on these super rare aircraft it is really nice to see the best renditions through cgi. And you do a great job keeping this history alive. Youtub is shitting on itself trying to erase history.
I live near the museum where that plane is today. They also have a few other wunderwaffe projects the Nazis were toying with while on their last legs such as the Komet rocket plane.
I've got a book about weird and wonderful aircraft which features this plane and also mentions it may have attempted to engage allied fighters above the dornier factory late in the war as well
I believe the fastest Do 335 models could reach up to 790kph, faster than any allied piston-engined aircraft put into service by the war’s end. P-51H topped out at 776kph. That fastest Do-335 was also running DB 603Es I think which output maximum of 2250hp, but if the DB603N was put in service, I am sure it’s 2800hp output would push the Do 335 over the 800kph mark with relative ease.
Well you can believe but there is no evidence. Even the fanboys usually state 474 mph.. There's much myth about this and the Ta 152 all built on development testing but with no in-service, all up combat weight performances. The French testing got one to fly at 437 mph at 23,000ft in 1947.
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever built. my favourite. centreline thrust theory. it works on fighters, so why not for a push/pull two engined fighter ?????.
By 1944 the Maritime Reconnaissance Department at the Luftwaffe tasked with providing lone g range reconnaissance for the German Navy became frustrated with the politics of the remainder of the Luftwaffe for its Ju 290, Ju 390, Me 264 and deiced upon the Do 335Z zwilling (twin) or Do 636. The aircraft range was 4722 miles which while being a lot less than the Me 264 was mich better than other Luftwaffe aircraft and in a frame that was fast enough to avoid interception.
I loved this when it first appeared in Il-2 Ace Expansion Pack. Not a great dogfighter though, that thing is fricken heavy. But a beast in BnZ tactics. BTW, the MG 151s are "just" the 15mm ones. They're a lot better than the 131s though and have a trajectory very similar to the MK 103, so you know when to let that thing shell out lead down range. The best feature though was the bomb bay. Carrying either one 500kg or two 250kg bombs without adding any drag is a massive advantage anywhere during WW2, but especially if you're in that thing that you can dictate the fight with. And, which is something rather special within Il-2, you could drop the two bombs separately. It also had the V-13 variant with another pair of 103s in the wing roots, absolutely devastating.
@@madkills10 In the end it's the same gun anyway, just with a different barrel and obvioulsy more space required for the ammo, resulting in less total rounds.
@@FINNIUSORION Now that! IS a very pretty, and rare, one. Do 18 here...those lines = ♥ ..throw in some turboprops and then..? (Jumo 205s+ = long range...no POWER)
@@FINNIUSORION I love the Do 26K. It had a 5500nmi range and could fly anywhere in the world. You could even refuel the engines on common diesel fuel in any port.
There was another interesting aircraft with these principles before the war from Fokker. I believe it was the Fokker D.XXIII around 1939 or 1940. It, too, was innovative and worthy of a video! Fokker was very creative, as in their F.26 Phantom Jetliner of 1946, also on this channel!
Have you done the flying flapjack yet? Coolest WW2 prop plane idea, though it arrived too late to be considered as jets had already become the accepted way forward.
Dornier were contemplating an each way bet. They had a version of the Do 335 on the drawing board that would have replaced the rear prop and piston engine with a jet power unit
The Do-335 was already obsolete just as all piston engine driven fighter aircrafts were by 1944. Both the Germans and the British were already deploying jet fighters. The Germans with their Me-262 and the British with their Gloster Meteor.
1:48 “Whilst this concept had been done before, the trick that he came up with was to eliminate the extra drag created with separate engines in either pods or gondolas. And this is exactly the principle that would make the Do-335 possible.” Is there a specific source you got this from? I’m interested in the aerodynamics of push-pull aircraft.
Also... pusher puller planes are not unique, I mean the 335 wasn't the only plane that used that type of propulsion. There have been several seaplanes that used a pusher puller powerplant. There's a modern one I believe with the engines on a boom above the fuselage. This plane.... by the way is MASSIVE. It's the size of a medium bomber. So the fact that it had the performance that it did.... better than the P-51... is kind of insane. I mean this thing was an absolute monster. If they'd of had this earlier in the war, it'd been a game changer.
Back in 1945 German pilots need a faster airplane , Their life depended on it. The allies used aircraft with 2 engines, 1 in each wing, doubling the power. The Germans answer to this was use 2 engines, but with 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. 2 engines in the wings increased the drag. Such a plane would have to push the fuselage thru the air And push 2 engines thru it. By putting 2 engines inside the fuselage they only needed to push thru 1 item.
Not only that but the DO-335's speed, say in dive, was probably suspiciously close to transsonic speeds. Still tests pilots like Heini Dittmar never EVER a about a flight failure for that plane. Still, they had their amount of complaints with the Me-163, the Me-262 and so on.
I'm surprised I don't remember ever hearing about those fugly airplanes. My grandfather was a WW2 naval aircraft machinist. He was fascinated by aircraft and talked to me about the different ones from the war. He took me to museums to see them. But I don't remember the one in the video. I like the inline dual engine idea. Seems logical.
I can imagine how successful the Do 335 could've been if introduced sooner. Unlike the Me-262 it didn't have engines that had a lifespan of 24h, didn't need finicky throttle control and wasn't vulnerable while landing (the Me-262 were usually hunted while landing because when they started desaccelerating to land, they couldn't accelerate back if attacked because they would wreck the engines). And on top of all of this, it didn't consume as much fuel as a jet fighter. So the Do-335 had the speed and capabilities similar to an early jet fighter, but none of it's flaws. And it was a true multi-role airplane, unlike the Me-262 that was converted (stupidly) into a fighter-bomber after it's development.
Do 335 V11 and V12 were prototypes for the Do 335A-11 and A-12 conversion trainers, with the fuel tank behind the pilot removed to fit a second cockpit for the flight instructor, who didn't get an ejection seat because of production shortages. Do 335 V10 was a prototype for the Do 335A-6 night fighter variant; this would be distinguishable from the A-11/A-12 by the radar aerials for the FuG 218 G/R radar extending forward from each wing. The trainer version was given the unofficial nickname of "Ameisenbär" ('anteater'), a reference to the long nose and hunched back.
it's good to know that at least one such plane has been preserved. what an interesting machine! I wonder if someone would revive the concept in our time?
When you enter your text into the AI for the voice narration it says "me" as in yourself for Messerschmitt; and "he" as in him for Henkel, and "do" and in doing for Dornier. I think if you specify each letter in the aircraft designation it will sound better, and more accurate.
The plane didn't only have an ejection seat, but when triggered the mechanism would also jettison the rear propeller and part of the rear upper fin to get them out of the pilot's path.
The Allies were extremely fortunate that the 335 didn’t become operational. Dornier proved without a doubt that freeing the wing structure of heavy engines and allowing the wings to do what they are designed to do unhindered was the way forward.
Having a rear propeller is actually pretty genius for a ww2 plane, reducing the drag and resistance and what not. Though the me262 is still better all around obviously
Actually, that was the He 280, and was actually used in 1942 when a version of the He 280 mounting Argus pulsejets instead of the BMW 003 turbojets was towed aloft, but the pilot experienced icing that left the plane uncontrollable. However, the earliest assisted escape from an aircraft was in 1910, although that used bungee cords; a design using compressed air was patented in 1916, and the first modern-style ejection seat was patented and demonstrated in 1929.
4:37 the double cockpit version was referred to as “Nasenbär” straight translation nose-bear which is the German name for the lovely creatures you call Nasua en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasua😊
Minor piece of disturbing trivia about the sole surviving Do 335 -- when the Smithsonian transferred it to the Dornier factory for restoration, the Dornier workers found that the explosive charges for the ejection seat were still in the aircraft and still live, having remained untouched since the plane was captured by Watson's Whizzers in 1945 and brought back to the US.
The Do 335 was a fascinating design that suffered from a typical German problem. They could not decide what they wanted. So a lot of time was lost with pointless development steps. But the Do 335 had a massive main problem. The main compass. Since both engines were in the fuselage, there was no suitable place for the main compass. It was located in the wing, off the longitudinal axis, and was very sluggish and inaccurate. It could not be used in combat. This error also led to the loss of at least one aircraft. The pilot is said to have lost orientation after evasive maneuvers because of allied fighters and due to the fantasy compass.
The Do-335 is one of the most interesting and coolest planes of that age. That end of the prop age was definitely the "muscle car period" of aviation. Have been thrilled to see many of these in flight at the Reno air races over the decades. But, when my son was about 10 had a business trip to DC and we went to many of the Smithsonians, including to see the 335 which was new and amazing to both of us. Great vid.
It’s nice that we’re focusing on another prop plane, I feel like we don’t have many on this channel.
Funny thing is, prior to being refurbished, the explosive charge for detaching the rear propeller in an emergency was never removed, and the Dornier engineers were horrified that it could've blown up at any moment.
Why would they need to detach the rear prop in an emergency?
@@jacoblunn29 so the pilot won't be turned into mincemeat when ejecting.
@@jacoblunn29 While the Do 335 was equipped with an ejection seat, it was not as powerful as modern ejection seats, and could not guarantee getting the pilot far enough away from the plane not to hit the tail; accordingly, provisions were made to blow off the upper vertical tail and rear propellor during the ejection procedure. One of the pilots in "Watson's Whizzers", flying one of the captured Do 335s after the war, was killed when this system was triggered accidentally.
the next "expert" (:-)
As an addendum, when the Smithsonian sent its Do335 to the Dornier plant in Germany for restoration, the workers found that the explosive charges for the ejection seat were still live; no one had thought to deactivate them since it was taken from Germany at the end of the war.
This is one of my favorite airplanes of all time, thank you for covering it! I didn't know there were this many further versions planned
The Dornier Do 335 isn't the only aircaft with a propeller at either end. There's also the Cessna Skymaster, a civilian plane built by Cessna from the 1960s to the 1980s. Of course, despite its rather metal name the Skymaster wasn't likely to become the target of Captain America and his Howling Commandos ...
Skymaster was also the basis for the O-2 observation and forward control aircraft during Vietnam. A very cool and versatile aircraft
I know the skymaster by a nother name..... an pilot that I know that owns ons just called it the 'sucker-blower'....
And the Skymaster began as the Cessna 337 Skymaster, partly in tribute to the Dornier 335, as the fixed undercarriage version was the Cessna 336.
Don't forget the experimental Cessna 327, the Rutan Defiant, the Adam, and the Moynet 360 Jupiter.
suuure, and there is also Ki-94-I
not like it would be nazi, or not like it would be made by then end of WWII
Very nice. I actually saw this at the museum and wondered why I hadn't heard of it before. The fact that there were only 37 explains that. Great video! Thank you for all the time and hard work.
I saw this plane at the Udvar-Hazy Annex of the National Air & Space Museum. The surviving example is awesome sitting there. The museum itself is one of the best in the DC area, well worth the drive or metro ride out to Dulles. Be sure to take the guided tour with a docent. One of the times we went, the guide was a former 747 pilot/flight engineer with Pan AM, and one docent was a witness to Hiroshima, relevant because Enola Gay is one of the exhibit planes.
I've seen this plane in person one of the last surviving examples is on display at the udvar-hazy center in Chantilly, Virginia, USA, owned by the Smithsonian. They have a whole German collection. Truly an awesome sight to see. Out of all of them I saw. Even the Horton flying wing... this one is by far the coolest one on display.
If I went to that museum I would say that the Horton is the coolest lol
Im happy that despite youtube beeing censored more and more you still continue to put the Nazi cross (idk the name in english) on your models. Its rare nowadays to see someone not beeing affected by cancel culture
That one isn't what we think of as modern "cancel culture" though. In Germany in particular, and I believe a couple of other European nations, it's against the law to display the swastika. In Germany, it has been since the 1950s, I think. The Balkenkreuz on the fuselage and wings is fine (as, like the Maltese cross, it was historically intended as a symbol for Germany in general and not THAT political party in particular) - it's just the swastika that's against the law. It's still OK to use for educational purposes, so (for instance) it's OK on a restored aircraft at a museum, but not in anything sold to the mass market, or used for commercial purposes. Likewise, religions that have historically used the swastika get a pass (although that original design was actually mirrored by the Germans, so, the German version is backwards).
So, for any video, model kit, video game, etc. that wants a no-fuss entry into the European market, it's omitted. There are workarounds - some model kit manufacturers, for instance, leave it off the box art, and then use a two-piece decal to replicate it on the actual model. I'm guessing this video, if it's available in a German translation, clips it out on an alternate rendering to avoid the legal issues - or just sticks a floating dot over it.
On German a hakenkreuz
@@lonelocustoftheapocalypse3700 so the Germans stopped censorship just to get right back to it
Yeah, I agreed !!! It’s proving that the Jews had already owned America !!! Welcome to the fake land of the free and home of the brave !!! 🤣🤣🤣
Iron cross. It's German, not Nazi.
I shot one down in War Thunder while I was in a biplane, it was something like a 5+ level kill, as was my custom I would take a biplane to maximum altitude and loiter at the edge of the battle and keep an eye on things, this was in a fjord type environment, lots of steep snowy mountains like Norway etc, I saw the DO as he dropped height and went to sneak up a fjord and dropped in on him, I managed to get my interception perfect and was able to shoot the pilot through the roof of the cockpit with my two ancient weapons and down he went.
You can only do that in the fantasy world of video games. Why don’t you get a job and learn to fly a real airplane. It’s fun
@@steveperreira5850 Because I'm 70
PS I've flown a Cessna and a Robin 123 plus a glider.
@@steveperreira5850 what a miserable comment
One of the best looking planes that ever flew
One or two seater?
definitely one of the best I've flown
@@ethanwasme4307 COOL!(GEIL!)! and your age is... 😛
@@dallesamllhals9161 I think ge meant in Wart hunter, I mean War thunder
@@samathsek3199Do 335 did fly, but not mass deployed.
What amazes me is that such radical developments in aviation took place within 40 years of inventing the first airplane. Truly spectacular
and within 20 more years we were zooming at supersonic speeds in jets and flying rockets to the moon
Wars tend to do that to technology, the urgent need to be better than your enemy and therefore the money and resources are massive compared to peace.
Strange how a modern-style engine brake such as used on riding lawnmowers could have eliminated the need for the explosive charges in the tail and prop. Or at least reduced the odds of pilot injury down to that of or near the risk of bailing out of a conventional-tailed aircraft...
Don’t say ‘Doo’ or ‘Hee’ - just say ‘Dornier’ or ‘Henkel’. Or just the model number! Same for ‘m k’ - it’s ‘Mark’.
@President Eden In English you might say 'Emm Eee 109' but not 'Me 109'. So 'Aitch Eee' or 'Dee Oh' would work.
The Mk stand for Maschinenkanone
I saw the 335 at the Air & Space museum near Dulles. It was huge! Much bigger than what you might imagine. I have no doubt if this thing had been mass produced, it would have kept Germany in the war. Obviously in 1945, Germany was in no shape to do much of anything.
Agree...I still don't understand why Hitler and pals would'nt just buy, say a tenth of them and then make them fly in all propaganda movies possible. It propably would have driven Allied air strategists to terminal dysentery.
props for the pronouncing of german words 😅
Nice pun
Du, Mi, Hi... bruhh
I've been a big fan of the Cessna Skymaster since I was a kid, and I've often wondered how the Do-335 influenced the Cessna engineers. Look it up online. It's a fascinating airplane.
Absolutely. The main advantages is you get twin engine performance and redundancy with the aircraft cross section of a single engine plane and none of the negative asymmetric thrust issues of a conventional wing mounted multi engine plane.
The Dornier model prefix is pronounced "Dee Oh". Manufacturers were abbreviated in RLM nomenclature by their name's first 2 letters, or in the case of makers such as Blohm und Voss and Focke Wulf, the first letters of each part of their company name, which would yield BV ("Bee Vee") and FW ("Eff Double-You"). The Dornier model prefix was not pronounced as "Doe", nor was Messerschmitt "Mee", or Heinkel as "Hee". The incorrect usage of these prefixes, in this video and across the platform is rather irritating and promotes ignorance.
That aside, I do appreciate this choice of subject. The Do-335 was an amazing aircraft but was ultimately relegated to obsolescence due to the advent of jet aircraft near the end of the Second World War.
Thank you for saying this! I was hoping someone else was as annoyed as I was! 😆
Thank you! D-O, not "Do". H-E, not "He" or "Me".
If you're going to be that pedantic, then you should pronounce them in German. And guess what... in German, unless it was two consonants, they did not pronounce the individual letters, but the sound they made. So Me=Mayy, Do=dho, Ju=Yooh, etc...
Yay I am not the only one that can't deal with the bastardised pronunciations of basic two letter designations. Australian england at its finest lol
Couldn't agree more, it was annoying me too. It just makes these videos sound unprofessional and inaccurate. Have you heard his pronunciation of 'Nene' as 'nay nay'?!
The dual-fuselage DO-635 would have been a strong platform for towing the big gliders like the Gigant. This would have been a fascinating plane, had it ever been built.
The complexity of having two separate fuselage connected like that seems counter productive. It would have been interesting to get a sneak peek at the drawings for it. Even if it wasn't completed I'm sure there were a lot of detailed drawings ranging from the early "whish lists" to the paired down more realistic designs along with notes on how they thought it should work and why they skipped or reworked some of the early ideas.
The rear prop would've made connecting tow cables more difficult, if not impossible. The Do 335 needed an upper twin 30mm. gun turret
@@ricktaylor3748 just add a metal rod that extends out and past the rear prop that you connect the rope too
@@TinyBearTim Why does it need a rope ?
@@ricktaylor3748 for towing….
According to Eric Brown, renowned British test Pilot who flew the arrow, the rear engine had a nasty habit of overheating. Not an easily dealt with issue.
---Also, the ejection seat was not used by at least two pilots who were brought down in Dornier 335's. They didn't eject due to their arms having already been torn off by the canopy when trying to release the lever type hold downs. You needed a very good grip on those levers and then the slipstream tore the canopy from the airframe along with the pilot's arms!
That doesn't add up, Their hands would have to be hand cuffed to the canopy lever to tear your arms off when the canopy jettisons. Normally anything stronger than our grip results in what ever you are holding being ripped out of your hand.
“The Nazis ever built “ a powerful cliche, for your info, Dr Claude Dornier wasn’t a “Nazi” was a brilliant German Aeronautical Engineer, his love was to built Aerplanes.
This is hands down my favorite bomber interceptor in WarThunder. It’s almost unfair how fast it can climb, the cannons, and it’s ability to get away from fighters.
I use the premium B-2 variant and yea that thing is the best attacker at mid tier hands down
@@madkills10 wyvern disagrees
@@Denkmaldrubernacht wyvern is good but Do 335 is better
@@madkills10 wyvern is better
@@Denkmaldrubernacht wyvern has worse guns with basically equal payload. The 335 also has two engines so you can lose one and still fly back to base
I built this model when I was thirteen I believe it was Morgan Revell or Tamiya that made it in the 1/72. Scale, I marveled for hours just on it looks compared to the 100 models air planes from WWI and II and following aircraft i had built and most of them hanging on my ceiling. 1973 circa. Neat plane
Do 335: Fastest piston-driven fighterplane of it's timeperiod.
Not bad coverage of the 335 BUT you missed a whole important version...The 2 seat version was made for 2 reasons not just as a trainer but also as a night fighter...also the version where they added 2 more 20 mm cannons (1 in each wing)...To make a easy comparison on size the 335 is basically the same size as a B-25 bomber
Thanks, I was waiting for why the 2 seat version in the vid, but it never came up.
actually it was 2 30mm MK103s in the wing 1 30mm mk103 in the nose and 2 20mm MK151 in the nose assuming your referring to the B2 version
I had a model kit of one of these when I was a kid and it let you build it with the single cockpit or the double. The double looked cooler so I built it like that. ;-)
Same here. :)
It’s cool they’ve animated the trainer version as well as the production variation.
But they mixed the sequences without explanation ...
One thing that's always stuck out to me is that despite being German, I always found "Dornier" to be a very French sounding name and hearing the founder being named "Claude Dornier" only adds to that curiosity.
Claude Dornier's parents were french and moved to Germany shortly before his birth.
Probably similar case like with Hans Joachim Marseille, French huguenots moving to Germany due to prosecution by the Catholics.
ArNement? Try ArMament instead.
and large VENTRICLE fin? Try ventral instead.
The ventricle is in your heart not on a plane.
Is it me or does the double cockpit remind anyone of a Mil MI-24 Hind? It's like removing the top rotor, turned the tail rotor facing backwards, slapped a regular prop and some wings on and boom.
In any case, cool plane go nyoom.
I'm building a hind model and yes it does look surprisingly smiler looking cockpit.
Sigh. I don’t really play the German pronunciation pedant, but if this helps going forward, I’ll take the hit.
So, first things first - you pronounced Claude Dorniers name correctly, which should be a tip-off as to how to pronounce the ‘Do’ in the plane models. But as a simple way to remember this would be that it should sound like the English word ‘Doe’ (as in ‘female deer’).
So, if you see a Dornier plane model, remember your Julie Andrews in ‘the sound of music’ and say ‘Dornier Doe 335’.
Some other brands, best as I can:
Messerschmitt - ‘Em-ay’ for ‘Me’ (in German, the letter ‘e’ sounds more like the English letter ‘a’.)
Heinkel - best approximation would be ‘Hay’ for ‘He’.
Junkers - ‘You’ for ‘Ju’.
And now the trickier ones…
Henschel - their models were usually preceded by ‘Hs’ but I never heard those two letters slurred together like the previous manufacturers prefixes. It was always just ‘Hah-Ess’.
Blohm & Voss - ‘BV’ It, like the Henschel prefix above didn’t have the letters slurred together but pronounced individually - so ‘Bay-pfau’ (where the ‘au’ at the end sounds like the English ‘ow’.
Lastly, Focke-Wulf. Which had two commonly used prefixes. ‘FW’ is ‘eff-way’ as it is another one where even in German, pronounced each letter rather than slurred them together.
For the Kurt Tank designs (such as the Ta-152), ‘Ta’ was used, and this was slurred together as ‘Tah’.
I think I hit all the big ones here. I’m sure a proper German linguist could do much better, but I hope this helps.
Btw, as a kid, I saw the Do 335 while it was on display in the German museum in Munich (the Smithsonian loaned it out for a period of 10 years post restoration after which it was returned to Washington) and one thing that’s hard to really gauge is just how utterly huge that plane is. They had a Messerschmitt 109 partially parked underneath its left wing and it looked tiny by comparison.
Yeah it really sounded awfull
This is one of my favorite aircraft of all time, and I was lucky enough to see it in DC. Even though I knew it was a big plane, it doesn't really register until you see it in person. Interesting thought....what if this had been made in enough numbers to have multiple survivors, and what if some of those ended up as racers @ Reno? I can only imagine how fast this thing could go after some mild hot rodding!
A curiosity, Pierre Closterman, was Brazilian by birth and was the greatest ace of French aviation in WWII. His father was a French diplomat working in Brazil, but when the war broke out, Pierre insisted on going to England to join the the fight
I lived close by the NASM for a long time, so I frequently saw the last remaining DO-335.
Such a awesome plane to look at. Its at the Udvar Hazy Center in Dulles Virginia.
If you think *this* bird was wacky, check out the Siemens-Schuckhart Dr-I, which also featured a push/pull engine configuration. Unlike some of their other fighters (Siemens-Schuckhart D-III/D-IV) which were built in considerable numbers, only a single prototype of their Dr-I was ever built. It was equipped with two Siemens-Halske SH-III bi-rotational engines, where the cylinders spun one way and the propeller the other. (This same bi-rotational engine made the Siemens-Schuckhart D-IV *the* fastest climbing fighter in WWI.)
the render and animation in this channel are just out of this world!
7:28 jergernotprgramm is how it is pronounced you were close
Nice! You've got Pierre Clostermann markings right! JFE. However the propeller cone was painted red only after the end of hostilities!
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If you listen closely he says “Ayrcwaft”
This was one of my most favorite plane designs I love it, I think this thing could of been a monster if had enough time hey I think we should restore the last airframe to fly one last time
And risk losing it though? If you're gonna make an airworthy 335 you gotta make it from scratch.
@Lucas O'Keefe yea I know but I think what they should do is make an exact replica of a flying version of it
@@lucasokeefe7935 A little like the last flying Lancaster in England. It is the last of its kind, as a pilot named it when flying it with a huge respect! I had hoped to see it over Denmark, as a memorial flight, but it never came to my home on Sealand.
Now that I'm playing Metal Slug, I wondered how realistic and plausible some of the machines we see there are, such as the mythical Metal Slug tank.
Actually many aircraft manufacturers have teams dedicated to restoring old aircraft, many cases manned by retirees that worked on them. I was at Grumman when they restored F5F's and at Boeing (formerly Douglas) whilethey restored a DC2
There is one of these at the Udvar-Hazy Smithsonian Air and Space Museum and it is one of my favorite aircraft there.
You can fly this thing in War Thunder, and if you're well versed in energy fighting and baiting your opponents into vertical manufacturers, that force them to lose their speed while allowing you to exploit your superior power to weight ratio, it cleans house!
I prefer original pictures, but on these super rare aircraft it is really nice to see the best renditions through cgi. And you do a great job keeping this history alive. Youtub is shitting on itself trying to erase history.
I live near the museum where that plane is today. They also have a few other wunderwaffe projects the Nazis were toying with while on their last legs such as the Komet rocket plane.
I've got a book about weird and wonderful aircraft which features this plane and also mentions it may have attempted to engage allied fighters above the dornier factory late in the war as well
It’s not ‘Doe’ ‘Me’ or ‘He’ it’s D-O, M-E and H-E. 😂
I believe the fastest Do 335 models could reach up to 790kph, faster than any allied piston-engined aircraft put into service by the war’s end. P-51H topped out at 776kph. That fastest Do-335 was also running DB 603Es I think which output maximum of 2250hp, but if the DB603N was put in service, I am sure it’s 2800hp output would push the Do 335 over the 800kph mark with relative ease.
Well you can believe but there is no evidence. Even the fanboys usually state 474 mph.. There's much myth about this and the Ta 152 all built on development testing but with no in-service, all up combat weight performances. The French testing got one to fly at 437 mph at 23,000ft in 1947.
11:46 - I would like to see if you could cover the US Navy's design studies for Torpedo Battleships from 1912.
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One of the most beautiful aircraft ever built. my favourite. centreline thrust theory. it works on fighters, so why not for a push/pull two engined fighter ?????.
I thought the He-111 Zwilling was the coolest connected plane- I had no idea there was a version for the Do-335 envisioned! That looks even more cool!
There were also connected versions of the Me 109 (Labeled "Z" for Zwilling) and the P-51 Mustang made during the war...
@tremainetreerat5176 I am aware of them. It's just that a connected bomber aircraft that pulls gliders and a double pusher plane top my list.
By 1944 the Maritime Reconnaissance Department at the Luftwaffe tasked with providing lone g range reconnaissance for the German Navy became frustrated with the politics of the remainder of the Luftwaffe for its Ju 290, Ju 390, Me 264 and deiced upon the Do 335Z zwilling (twin) or Do 636. The aircraft range was 4722 miles which while being a lot less than the Me 264 was mich better than other Luftwaffe aircraft and in a frame that was fast enough to avoid interception.
I loved this when it first appeared in Il-2 Ace Expansion Pack. Not a great dogfighter though, that thing is fricken heavy. But a beast in BnZ tactics. BTW, the MG 151s are "just" the 15mm ones. They're a lot better than the 131s though and have a trajectory very similar to the MK 103, so you know when to let that thing shell out lead down range. The best feature though was the bomb bay. Carrying either one 500kg or two 250kg bombs without adding any drag is a massive advantage anywhere during WW2, but especially if you're in that thing that you can dictate the fight with. And, which is something rather special within Il-2, you could drop the two bombs separately. It also had the V-13 variant with another pair of 103s in the wing roots, absolutely devastating.
depends on the variant, some had 15mm and some had 20mm. One version, the B-2, had 3x30mm and 2x20mm
@@madkills10 In the end it's the same gun anyway, just with a different barrel and obvioulsy more space required for the ammo, resulting in less total rounds.
also you can say RLM broken up as such: reichs-luft-fahrt-ministe-rium, which is a 3 word, Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium so RLM
It's called a 'push pull' configuration
Yes...and?
PS. I like Dornier flying boats
@@dallesamllhals9161 absolutely I love all the old German planes. In my collection I have the data plate off a DO 26
@@FINNIUSORION Now that! IS a very pretty, and rare, one.
Do 18 here...those lines = ♥
..throw in some turboprops and then..?
(Jumo 205s+ = long range...no POWER)
@@FINNIUSORION I love the Do 26K. It had a 5500nmi range and could fly anywhere in the world. You could even refuel the engines on common diesel fuel in any port.
There was another interesting aircraft with these principles before the war from Fokker. I believe it was the Fokker D.XXIII around 1939 or 1940. It, too, was innovative and worthy of a video! Fokker was very creative, as in their F.26 Phantom Jetliner of 1946, also on this channel!
“What the plane” “WTP” ,geddit? No then leave it
Pumping out quality content so fast, wow.
I try for you. Hope you enjoy :)
Have you done the flying flapjack yet?
Coolest WW2 prop plane idea, though it arrived too late to be considered as jets had already become the accepted way forward.
Dornier were contemplating an each way bet. They had a version of the Do 335 on the drawing board that would have replaced the rear prop and piston engine with a jet power unit
@@terryjacob8169 the Fireball is probably worth a video too.
Who thought that was a good name for a plane?
If you're lucky enough to see it in person, in addition to being huge, it's absolutely stunning. The entire Udvar-Hazy Center is.
The Do-335 was already obsolete just as all piston engine driven fighter aircrafts were by 1944. Both the Germans and the British were already deploying jet fighters. The Germans with their Me-262 and the British with their Gloster Meteor.
All the "miracle" weapons still couldn't fly without gas which Germany didn't have.
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“Whilst this concept had been done before, the trick that he came up with was to eliminate the extra drag created with separate engines in either pods or gondolas. And this is exactly the principle that would make the Do-335 possible.”
Is there a specific source you got this from? I’m interested in the aerodynamics of push-pull aircraft.
Based on how the aircraft names are pronounced in the video, I'm assuming that the source was Wikipedia and a prayer.
Also... pusher puller planes are not unique, I mean the 335 wasn't the only plane that used that type of propulsion. There have been several seaplanes that used a pusher puller powerplant. There's a modern one I believe with the engines on a boom above the fuselage. This plane.... by the way is MASSIVE. It's the size of a medium bomber. So the fact that it had the performance that it did.... better than the P-51... is kind of insane. I mean this thing was an absolute monster. If they'd of had this earlier in the war, it'd been a game changer.
Back in 1945 German pilots need a faster airplane , Their life depended on it. The allies used aircraft with 2 engines, 1 in each wing, doubling the power. The Germans answer to this was use 2 engines, but with 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. 2 engines in the wings increased the drag. Such a plane would have to push the fuselage thru the air And push 2 engines thru it.
By putting 2 engines inside the fuselage they only needed to push thru 1 item.
Not only that but the DO-335's speed, say in dive, was probably suspiciously close to transsonic speeds. Still tests pilots like Heini Dittmar never EVER a about a flight failure for that plane. Still, they had their amount of complaints with the Me-163, the Me-262 and so on.
I'm surprised I don't remember ever hearing about those fugly airplanes. My grandfather was a WW2 naval aircraft machinist. He was fascinated by aircraft and talked to me about the different ones from the war. He took me to museums to see them. But I don't remember the one in the video. I like the inline dual engine idea. Seems logical.
I can imagine how successful the Do 335 could've been if introduced sooner. Unlike the Me-262 it didn't have engines that had a lifespan of 24h, didn't need finicky throttle control and wasn't vulnerable while landing (the Me-262 were usually hunted while landing because when they started desaccelerating to land, they couldn't accelerate back if attacked because they would wreck the engines). And on top of all of this, it didn't consume as much fuel as a jet fighter.
So the Do-335 had the speed and capabilities similar to an early jet fighter, but none of it's flaws. And it was a true multi-role airplane, unlike the Me-262 that was converted (stupidly) into a fighter-bomber after it's development.
What is that for a 335 model used in the video? With the 2 seater?
Do 335 V11 and V12 were prototypes for the Do 335A-11 and A-12 conversion trainers, with the fuel tank behind the pilot removed to fit a second cockpit for the flight instructor, who didn't get an ejection seat because of production shortages. Do 335 V10 was a prototype for the Do 335A-6 night fighter variant; this would be distinguishable from the A-11/A-12 by the radar aerials for the FuG 218 G/R radar extending forward from each wing. The trainer version was given the unofficial nickname of "Ameisenbär" ('anteater'), a reference to the long nose and hunched back.
@@seanmalloy7249 thanks mate
Can you do a video on the Piper PA-48 Enforcer? It was a P-51 Mustang modernized for CAS and COIN in the 1970s.
it's good to know that at least one such plane has been preserved. what an interesting machine! I wonder if someone would revive the concept in our time?
Is this the Mustard at home?
When you enter your text into the AI for the voice narration it says "me" as in yourself for Messerschmitt; and "he" as in him for Henkel, and "do" and in doing for Dornier. I think if you specify each letter in the aircraft designation it will sound better, and more accurate.
The voice is actually Nick the narrator and owner of the channel. He doesn't use AI. - Jared Channel Manager
The Cessna Skymaster 337 has a propeller in the front and one in the back. It is my favourite private aircraft.
You ought to cover the Do-X.
The plane didn't only have an ejection seat, but when triggered the mechanism would also jettison the rear propeller and part of the rear upper fin to get them out of the pilot's path.
You would mistaken the back prop for a plane made in Australia
It almost look like it move backward if look at one way
Thanks for going into such detail. One of my favorite WW 2 airplanes. 😃
The Allies were extremely fortunate that the 335 didn’t become operational. Dornier proved without a doubt that freeing the wing structure of heavy engines and allowing the wings to do what they are designed to do unhindered was the way forward.
Even better, drifting the wing'ss chord from front to middle probably was a way to better aerodynamic.
The B2 variant of the DO-335 slaps in War Thunder
Having a rear propeller is actually pretty genius for a ww2 plane, reducing the drag and resistance and what not. Though the me262 is still better all around obviously
My father saw one in the flesh during his service with the Luftwaffe. He was astonished and impressed.
I actually have a few pictures of it on my phone, I went to the museum 2 times I would like to go again. Sooo many cool planes and rockets.
I just wish you had used the Single Seat in the Renderings, and not the Two Seat Trainer. The lines on the single seater are so much nicer.
The one in the museum only had a single cockpit
You forget that was have first ejected seat
Actually, that was the He 280, and was actually used in 1942 when a version of the He 280 mounting Argus pulsejets instead of the BMW 003 turbojets was towed aloft, but the pilot experienced icing that left the plane uncontrollable. However, the earliest assisted escape from an aircraft was in 1910, although that used bungee cords; a design using compressed air was patented in 1916, and the first modern-style ejection seat was patented and demonstrated in 1929.
4:37 the double cockpit version was referred to as “Nasenbär” straight translation nose-bear which is the German name for the lovely creatures you call Nasua en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasua😊
The Do 335 was also referred to as the 'Ameisenbär', or 'anteater'.
I so want to make flying models of all these Luft46 aircraft.
The Nazis did not build it as you stated. The Dornier Company did.
I found a picture of the plane marked 112 in a veterans photobook, fun to see it in this exact video.
Who do pronounce FW 190 inclrrectly also, perhaps Phwah 190?
we just saw the only surviving example at the Aerospace museum in VA last week.
Minor piece of disturbing trivia about the sole surviving Do 335 -- when the Smithsonian transferred it to the Dornier factory for restoration, the Dornier workers found that the explosive charges for the ejection seat were still in the aircraft and still live, having remained untouched since the plane was captured by Watson's Whizzers in 1945 and brought back to the US.
6:10 "Ventricle" is part of the heart. The word you wanted was "ventral". Perhaps you need a new dictionary.
Or a different AI guy
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Saw this thing in Munich. Sad it’s gone.
But, it’s here in the USA at the Air and Space Museum…..
It didn't see combat in the real war but who's to stop it from seeing top gun action in the game War Thunder.
The Do 335 was a fascinating design that suffered from a typical German problem. They could not decide what they wanted. So a lot of time was lost with pointless development steps.
But the Do 335 had a massive main problem. The main compass. Since both engines were in the fuselage, there was no suitable place for the main compass. It was located in the wing, off the longitudinal axis, and was very sluggish and inaccurate. It could not be used in combat. This error also led to the loss of at least one aircraft. The pilot is said to have lost orientation after evasive maneuvers because of allied fighters and due to the fantasy compass.
I remember first hearing about this on an episode of Weekday Wings on the Discovery Channel