Giant Aroids and Ontogeny ( Huge Cebu Blue )
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2022
- Giant cebu blue, giant pothos, big monstera and much more. Ontogeny is a very cool concept with plants and cool aroids. Many plants change drastically depending on age or growing conditions. In this video I wanted to show case that and show people what our plants are capable of!
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I'm from the island of cebu! LOL. :D and it's one of my favorite plants.
Amazing! Its really so pretty!
I'm biased as well, my wife is from Cebu City. In my opinion, it's the best island, best city, and the best houseplant.
I love growing my plants up things! The downside is once you do it, it’s hard not to grow them any other way without thinking about how they aren’t growing to their fullest potential! My R. tetrasperma went from no fenestrations to having inner and outer fenestrations in about 6 months on a pole.
Nice!!
I've read that the pores on the backside of the leaves are the help transpire water when guttation occurs. basically since the plant is bigger like in its ontogeny pores become more viable allowing water to escape easier. I would also assume its also like their form of EFN but without the sugary nectar its more for humidity/oxygen intake and water transpiration (IMO).
I've been experimenting with how to grow these plants for about a year now, and have achieved maturity with the albo and baltic blue varieties. Recently, I moved my epipremnum pinnatums from moss poles to a wood fence posts. I grow them in orchid bark, moss, worm casting, and perlite. Since I've transitioned, the new growth has attached itself firmly to the wood, and the vines have substantially gained in thickness ( the albo is 3/4 of an inch in vine thickness and the leaves are around a foot long). I believe that in lower humidity environments, such as the home, wooden posts are the best way to mature these plants quickly. The downside is you cant easily remove them from the wooden post.
Thank you for posting about your plants! I'm highly invested in your matured pothos cutting, and I cant wait to see your cebu blue grow as well. The little pores on the cebu blue are midrib fenestrations that will open up into a row of secondary fenestrations. They will become big cut-out holes as the plant matures, very similar to what you see in the mature monstera dubia.
Cheers! love your shirt!
do you recommend a specific type of wood?
@@MichaelDeNicola I've heard people recommend cedar because it's less likely to rot while buried in soil. I'm using a fence post from home depot that is pine for one. But... I'm also using a plank of wood left behind by construction workers by a Chicago freeway LOL. I've stained the wood to match my decor as well. I think what makes a difference for me is that I treat the part of the wood that's buried in the potting media. I've coated the wood in thick thick coats polyurethane so that the constant moisture doesn't degrade the wood. At first I was afraid that introducing chemicals would be bad for the plant's health but the polyurethane I had lying around doesn't seem to have effected it at all. I might also recommend rubberized water sealing paint that the terrarium hobbyists use on the bottom of their vivarium, but I've never tried it myself. I believe coating the part of the wood where the plant's ariel roots will be touching would be a mistake. The water absorption and rough texture of unfinished wood seems to be crucial for the plant to hold onto as it most closely resembles their native growing environment. I mist the ariel roots daily, and avoid misting the leaves.
This is just my opinion/experience with this plant in my own environment, so I cant promise it will work for you with 100% certainty, but hopefully all this provides some help. Hope that wasn't too much info all at once! I had 2 cups of coffee this morning haha.
@@barkopolo That's great advice. There are a few water proofing solutions for wood available that we need to apply just to the bottom 6 inches or so for the wood to not soak in water.
I've tried wood a few times but it was so dry for me I will try again tho!
Wow I wish I can see it!
I once had only one plant, that I got from a cutting of pothos at my grandparents house. I found techplant when looking for the right way to care for it, because even as a plant noob I didnt want to harm them. Now I'm on plant number nine, hopefully of many.
Awesome!!!! Great work!
When I moved into my first apartment last year I had 2 plants. A snake plant and a Chinese evergreen. Now I have 30+ ranging in level of care! Propagate your favorites to make new plants for free!!
The species Epipremnum pinnatum actually fenestrate when they mature- some of the holes you saw were pores but they will actually fenestrate as well. I’ve only gotten my epi pin albo to fenestrate but they all can!
I’ve recently started staking my CBP, and the leaves have already gotten larger! It’s such a cool phenomenon, and this video is a wonderful demonstration of it :)
That is awesome! I hope it grows well!
I love mature, huge plants!
Me too its so fun to see them grow and change!
Another FANTASTIC video!
Somehow you always manage to expose a new fact about plants or an interesting propogation technique that typically falls under the radar
Can't wait to see what you upload next!
Very well explained. Thank you.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing the info! 😁🤓
Wow!
I agree & can't wait til my plants start climbing & getting larger! Thanks 4 sharing! Love ur channel! ❣
Yes!!!!! Love ♥️
Thanks for watching!
I have one of my cebus on a wooden pole and it's given me a tiny hole fenestration in it's newest leaf!! The cebu blue has become one of my favourite plants ever since I found out they could fenestrate!!!
I'm training my other cebu blue cuttings up a coco-fiber pole so I can at some point pot up some more mature top cuttings into the same pot and also train it up the wooden pole to make a big lush cebu blue plant!!
New video idea! Growing plants in orbeez!
Wow. That’s is amazing. Thanks for the video. 💚🌱🪴🌿💚
Thanks for watching!
Great video - I need to put some more of my plants on a pole or lattice I'm sure they would love it.
Yeah same, I have some other species i need to get on poles too!
Great video, thank you! I'd love to see a comparison of moss poles vs planks.
What a nice channel I just found! ☺️
Yay! Thank you!
*looks over to my cebu blue with shifty eyes*
Cebu blue: 😳
Oh my gosh? I need that moss pole with covered backing!!!
I don't like grey color but the silver coloration is sooooo beautifull i have it and love it absolutely ❤️✨✨
I agree its fantastic
I’m pretty sure those spots on cebu are midrib fenestrations starting…. My pinnatum albo, aurea and Baltic blue all are doing it! 🌱💚
Interesting! I hope thats the case!
I’m pretty sure that these are not second stage fenestrstions. They will be developed fully before the leaves have unfurled, they do not gradually open up. I hypothesize that they’re crystallized mineral deposits on the leaf underside: these dots are very common on the pilea. Research “pilea pores”
@@christopherwong1782 yes I suppose that’s very possible too if they’re forming *after* the leaf opens… I didn’t notice that at first. I also zoomed in and it seems they are more like ‘scars’ than holes…. Possible damage from extrafloral nectaries?
Thanks for the info Christopher 😊
(Still hoping for midribs for him haha cuz that would be much cooler 🤣)
This is happening with the golden pothos growing from my aquarium. The vine growing up the wall has leaves bigger than my hand. The pinnatum is starting to follow suit as well.
awesome!!!
I had those same noticeable pores on a 2 years old golden pathos plant and the leaf was about the size of a male adult hand 🌿✨
yeah im still trying to figure out their purpose
Aaaand now im inspired to make moss poles today
Heck yeah good luck!
This was so 😎 cool.
I'm going to get started on my Cebue plant tomorrow.
What do you use as a propagation medium? Do you add perlite to sphagnum moss? Anything else?
Thanks again for the great info!
We need some vids focused on poles!
Moss poles, wooden posts etc.
I see you use 3D printed poles a lot… but I’m a dinosaur, I don’t own a computer, I’ve never seen a 3D printer in real life and I definitely NOT paying retail for a custom printed pole!
More content is always good!
ive got a lot of content i just need to compile it, im also working on some wood prototypes
@@TechplantChannel very nice, I usually just use boards from pallets I gather up, it’s never treated and it’s usually lightweight and rough cut, the plants really grab ahold of it quick and hold super tight to it, for better or worse.
I can imagine you have lots of plant chores and video stuff that “needs to be done”. You’re way more organized, neat and tidy than myself, but I’ve got a couple decades worth of plant built up.
There’s something about plant propagation… once you get bit by the bug the plants just start piling up until you’re swimming in baby plants of all kinds… then they grow… yet I still walk out of Lowe’s with a pocket full of propagations, in my mind there’s always room, but there hasn’t been room for more in my collection in years
Hey tech plant Hawaii you.? lol ilove your content bro 🌱💚
Lol, thanks! Thabks for watching!
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Thanks for watching!
Do pothos have extra floral nectaries? Maybe that's what the holes are?
I will look into it! Thanks for the suggestion!
I've been wanting to shingle my scindapsus to get that dubia or rhaphidophora look. I have a gang of those vines several feet long it's ridiculous. Tried adansonii on a pole but it didn't adhere. I chopped it to bits for the second time and maybe I'll train the cuttings. The leave on that thing were huge but thrips took it out and left me with bare vines. Not enough space to vertical grow everything but I have a crazy peperomia that looks like a vine growing inmy window straight up.
I have been wanting to set my aroids on a clear plastic backed moss pole but have been having a heck of a time finding the appropriate plastic, so I was thinking about boards, but I rent and they seem so burdensome to move. I have another idea that I'm not really finding anyone else do... I've seen two folx so far. So either it's a brilliant idea or it's terribly dumb but my brain won't let it go! So I'll be experimenting with that shortly! I would post a video but I have no idea how to do fancy/quality intro/outro and such... I'll probably post it on the dreaded tok of tiks haha!
If you make a video let me know im curious about this method!
I wanna know too 👀
I believe the pores on the underside of the leaves are mineral deposits. This is very common in the pilea peperomoiodes: research “pilea pores”. Basically these are mineral deposits from either watering with tap water, overfertilizing or overwatering. This is definitely not second stage fenesytstions forming, like mentioned before me
Also, cool shirt
Thanks!
My pilea also has those holes/pores on the backs of the leaves but I'm not sure the purpose. Someone said to get rid of excess moisture after watering
Do you primarily fill your poles with only sphagnum moss? And what's your watering regiment for the poles? Is it important to keep them damp most of the time?
Some have dirt and woodchips sphagnum is the easiest
where do you get your moss poles from that can be filled with substrate? :)
I design and 3d print them
I recently got a monstera Peru I think I really to put it on a pole. What kind do you recommend? I hear really bad things about moss poles like if it dries out your plant dies. No experience with them I’ve been too scared.
That's amazing the difference in growing environments. Have you given any more thought to trading your 3D moss poles yet, I'd definitely buy them from you? 😁🌱☀️
Yeah I'm just working on perfecting them. I've learned a lot using mu previous models
@@TechplantChannel Can you post your files? I have a printer and I want to try them!
@TechplantChannel I would definitely be interested in purchasing a few dozen too. 😁
I mean i am a techy too, computer science and i love plants. My mom comes from the philippines and i am super interested to get plants who live native there. I love the fact that alot people have cebu blues etc. Sadly here in germany we dont have that much exciting plants but id love to get a biiiig pothos node like you. I do love pothos alot
The holes may be extrafloral nectaries
I will read into it, that might be the case!
Can those pores be extrafloral nectarines or like beginnings to holes?
It's possible
It’s possible that Those pores could be extra floral nectaries. I would have to do some more research to be sure though.
before the accident, i was growing out my monster dubia on a wooden plank and it got to a pretty large size. unfortunately it was not adhered to the plank and the wind snapped it in half!! :((((
Those aren't pores on the cebu leaf, the larger leaves actually grow "holes" along the main vertical leaf vein.
1st giant plant, if there are small holes in the middle, it’s a Epipremnum Pinnatum (Dragon's Tail), not Cebu Blue. In the Philippines, we call the Dragon’s Tail as “Tibatib.”
you pronouncing cebu correctly, unlike the whole majority, 99% of people. haha.
Amazing because usually I'm so bad at names lol
The pores are probably stomata for the plant to regulate moisture and carbon dioxide and oxygen
They are air holes for the plant your plant is fine
Think the pores that you’re seeing might be cell die-off, nothing bad at all it might be trying to develop inner fenestrations
ep-i-prem-num pin-nat-um
lol, thank you!
@@TechplantChannel it helps me spell it too, I had a really bad tendency to put too many letters in it just making it more confusing. if you ever get into orchids, holy cattleya.
….I’m gonna need a bigger pot…
Get to it!
@@TechplantChannel I’m gonna go into debt just getting the correct pot size!!!! Half of these need to be taken out of their Thai take out plastic bins!
bites from mites, with a telescope 🔭 you can see small spots, they are bite marks, at beginning of juicestream from the leave, it's maybe damage from before, or wash your leaves up and bottom with 🚿 shower, and use "BIO NEEMOIL" and gentle with soft cotton pad both sides,, NEEMOIL bio is wonderful..
i got spidermites that leave marks everywhere, its hard to see in the footage but im almost positive they are not bite marks because i have other spots that are bite marks to compare if that makes sense, I use so much neem oil lol it works pretty well!
Did you mean heteroblasty?
Yeah looks like its a more specific word that falls under the main concept! Thanks for this word!
Is it the same as a philodendron camposportatum? That. Now that's amazing changes.
Maybe its me, I like smaller leaves and don't particularly care for vining plants, but campos are so attractive larger.
yup!
First 💕
Nice! I hope you like the video! Thanks for watching!
@@TechplantChannel love all your videos! Love watching them as i learn a lot! So thank you, please keep this up! 😚
Will do thank you for the kind words!
I wonder if the other pathos varieties such as marble queen, and njoy will fenestrate given the proper conditions. I’d love to see those all huge like these