The Grand Illusion🪞 - 1982 CWS - Are the Big Leagues Possible for Working Class Players?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • The 1982 Miami Hurricanes won the College World Series against the odds with the help of a hidden ball trick that bewildered the nation. This underdog story called for a deep dive into the socioeconomic side of the game of baseball, and the feasibility of blue collar kids making it to the big leagues from the inner cities and/or Appalachia.
    Players mentioned: Phil Stephenson, John Kruk, Billy Wagner
    Music Credit: Silicon Estate, Chris Haugen

Комментарии • 68

  • @JonWithTattoos
    @JonWithTattoos Год назад +13

    Come for the obscure baseball stories, stay for the well-reasoned social commentary. I dig it.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed it! The social element of baseball is much more in my element than the numbers/sabermetrics side of baseball, which is quite popular here on RUclips, hoping to take the path less traveled a bit.

  • @adameden8722
    @adameden8722 Год назад +7

    HatBilly! Thoughtful stuff, as always. A meandering walk through Appalachia is a fine one, indeed. I appreciate your ability to tie seemingly disparate elements into a cogent and meaningful message.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +2

      That means a lot, Adam! This was a combination of a few different ideas sitting on my hard drive, glad it came across coherent. 🤣

    • @tripgreat
      @tripgreat Год назад +1

      Foul! Adam Eden stole my thoughts, and expressed them perfectly! Great job, HatBilly and Adam Eden!

  • @williamrea5193
    @williamrea5193 Год назад +6

    This. This right here dude. You nailed it and in such a thought inspiring way. Thank you man. I have been lamenting the decrease in black players over the years, kind of blaming travel ball and the high cost barrier of entry. This was more than just baseball. Always root for the underdog.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      I appreciate it! Really glad this message resonated with you, this has been on my mind for quite some time, I just finally devised a tasteful way to complain about it. 😅

  • @benritchsmith
    @benritchsmith Год назад +4

    Professor Hatbilly! You sure bring a depth into the discussion of baseball. Sure good to see your pieces again. And for bringing up the subject to us of how baseball accessibility has decreased. Your comments “shines brightly in such a weary world” -Bill Shakespeare

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      I really appreciate the kind words! I'll keep that in mind when planning future videos. I was afraid this one was a little too scatterbrained, but the reception has been great.

  • @positively_broad_st3780
    @positively_broad_st3780 Год назад +2

    Hatbilly, you're too intelligent for RUclips. Thanks for classing-up the joint!

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Good point, I don't believe there are too many nerds on the forefront of RUclips, it could use a few more. 🤣

  • @BladderProductions
    @BladderProductions Год назад +2

    John Kruk had a book called "I Ain't an Athlete, Lady" based on a real life encounter with a fan that was surprised to see him smoking. She said "Aren't you an athlete?" He said " I ain't an athlete , lady. I'm a baseball player"

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      Most definitely added to my list of baseball books to read. So hilarious!

  • @nathanwoodside2309
    @nathanwoodside2309 Год назад +2

    Another great piece. ... I grew up in a low-income housing, and baseball was my only reason to get decent grades. In high school, American Legion ball was free and the best summers ever. It's really tough, now, to see kids who can't afford summer travel teams dropping out. It's more than athletics, it's education and their entire future. It's not fair.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      Agreed, leagues like American Legion showed that baseball could be affordable for the majority. A classic case of it not being broke, but they fixed it anyway.

  • @michaelmartz8426
    @michaelmartz8426 Год назад +3

    Very well done. I agree with you, being a product of rural Pennsylvania, opportunities in baseball for those in Appalachia are hard to come by. When a player is able to gain an opportunity, he usually flourishes. Coaches at the college and professional levels don't look at talent, they are interested in a near finished product. The talent is there, but the opportunities aren't easy to find.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +2

      I appreciate it! I totally agree. Recruiting is so streamlined these days, there's entire regions of the country largely passed over solely because of the level of play.

    • @michaelmartz8426
      @michaelmartz8426 Год назад +1

      @@Hatbilly think about this for a second, Harmon Killebrew was from where, what about Dick Allen or Roger Maris? None of them would get an opportunity in the current situation.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      @@michaelmartz8426 That's very sad, but true. I hope MLB bolsters their initiatives to keep kids like that in the game and sticks to it.

    • @michaelmartz8426
      @michaelmartz8426 Год назад +1

      @@Hatbilly I believe scouting isn't anything like it was 50+ years ago. They don't need to "beat the bushes" in the search for talent. Franchise management seem to believe sufficient talent can be found in the southern states or Caribbean, with a splash of talent from Asia. To me, it is sad to see great baseball talent being wasted because a kid looks rough due to a lack of good coaching or game experience.

    • @positively_broad_st3780
      @positively_broad_st3780 Год назад

      Killing off the minor leagues doesn't help the situation either. I'm certain Low A will be eliminated by 2025, maybe even High A by the early 2030's...

  • @3BGB
    @3BGB Год назад +1

    This is really good stuff man, keep it up

  • @longlakeshore
    @longlakeshore Год назад +1

    Everyone used to be working class because everyone had to work. Honus Wagner worked in mines at age 12. Shoeless Joe Jackson, Bob Feller and dozens of others were farm boys. Hank Aaron and Johnny Bench picked cotton. A few came from middle class families. Lou Gehrig dropped out of Columbia to play ball. Jackie Robinson did jr college then UCLA. Population shifted from rural to urban. The same collective bargaining which created a huge middle class also enriched baseball players when they were freed from the slavery of the reserve clause.
    Rural or urban, across the board kids from low income families continue to face disadvantages. It's an unfortunate economic reality caused by the destruction of the middle class and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Thanks for that perspective on it, you hit the nail on the head!

  • @justinc22443
    @justinc22443 Год назад +1

    He’s back! Looking forward to some new content from ya man.
    Styx, such an underrated band

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Definitely trying to get back on the grind, my man! The part about Styx was originally like four minutes long, but I figured people would forget it was a baseball video. I've always loved that band.

  • @jasonl.8043
    @jasonl.8043 Год назад +1

    Great video as always! Glad you're back!

  • @ThugShiTzu
    @ThugShiTzu Год назад +1

    Glad to see you back to uploading vids again. A great one as always!

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +2

      It's good to be back! Sorry to leave you guys hanging for a while.

  • @jockoadams3377
    @jockoadams3377 5 месяцев назад

    Great video essay. I am now rooting for Appalachia, Billy Wagner and a sudden resurgence of poor black and white kids to take over baseball.

  • @dafttassia1960
    @dafttassia1960 Год назад

    A styx album? French war films? You're putting out some of the best stuff on youtube.

  • @salutations5749
    @salutations5749 Год назад

    Great video !!! And you have many. This was relatable as a kid who played soccer in a working class neighborhood of the midwest in the 80s. The club ball kids used us a practice for other teams with club player stock.

  • @jaysantos11
    @jaysantos11 Год назад

    great video and the answer is unfortunately no

  • @oseasgonzalez7828
    @oseasgonzalez7828 Год назад

    dude. great content. Billy Wags was the man. Keep up the good work.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      I appreciate it! I'd like to make a full video on Wagner's career eventually. We'll see.

  • @ColinMoran
    @ColinMoran Год назад

    Absolutely brilliant. Bravo.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      I appreciate the kind words! More is on the way.

  • @johnsrabe
    @johnsrabe Год назад

    Not sure how I missed Kruk’s backstory living in Philly 91-93 and going to games at the Vet! Thanks for filling me in.
    And yeah, there are probably a ton more Latino kids playing, but baseball needs to step it up. Thanks for - as others have said - connecting the dots.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      No issue with the way the game has grown in Latin America, I just know there's more MLB could do to keep the game accessible to prospective players on their own soil.

  • @joehawk9839
    @joehawk9839 Год назад

    Glad to see you back.As usual hit this one out of the park.Btw my father is still hanging in there.I don't get much free time,but certainly would like to do some trout fishing or catch a Baysox,or Orioles game this year.Always have an invite half hour from both ballparks.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Really glad he's hanging in there! I appreciate the invite, it sounds like a great time.

  • @markbrown2450
    @markbrown2450 Год назад

    This channel is so good for so many reasons, but the Styx reference really nailed it for me. Sir, you have absolutely won me over.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I'm as big of a music fan as I am with baseball, so I look for opportunities to relate the two!

  • @nicp2344
    @nicp2344 Год назад

    You know brother you hut it right on the head man. I'm not black or from Appalachia, but I did grow up in a poor white immigrant family, and even though I'm not athletic at all, and my hand eye coordination was always bad, I knew and my brother knew as well, not even to ask about our mom and dad about little league, because we know we couldn't afford it. Honestly, don't even know how we could have survived nowadays as kids need phones and all this other stuff.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      Thanks for the kinds words and for sharing your story here! Definitely fits my theory that many families are "priced out" of the game from a young age.

  • @jesseasbury2612
    @jesseasbury2612 Год назад

    Great video, from one Appalachian to another.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      Thanks, Jesse! Hang in there in all this strange-ass weather!

  • @bartbuckel6714
    @bartbuckel6714 Год назад

    You make some really good content. Keep it up. BZ

  • @logansvideos95
    @logansvideos95 Год назад

    This is my fav video yet man keep up the great work!

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      Happy I was able to put something together you enjoyed!

  • @jamesbowman8138
    @jamesbowman8138 Год назад

    Phil Stephenson was supposed to be a big league star

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      I'm amazed he didn't get it going in the majors like everyone predicted.

  • @Runnerdude10000
    @Runnerdude10000 Год назад +1

    I was literally wondering where Billy had been two days ago. Great content per usual 👏🏽 👌

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      I appreciate your concern! All is well. More to come. 😅

  • @BladderProductions
    @BladderProductions Год назад

    HEEEEEEEYYYYY!!!
    You're back!!!

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      It's good to be back on the grind!

  • @greatsea1457
    @greatsea1457 Год назад +1

    Juxtaposition, which Is the worst word ever.

  • @tnewton6762
    @tnewton6762 Год назад

    Dang. You covered some serious ground in that one. Your content is insightful and entertaining. There is a lot of truth there. Being a baseball man from upstate NY (also part of the Appalachian range and very similar to places you described), and now in prime baseball land, middle Tennessee, I acknowledge your viewpoints on youth baseball. But even from modest (poor) beginning to still modest existence now, we have experienced and now try to help provide opportunity through baseball despite monetary limitations - maybe as an anomaly.
    Overall, you make great points and historical allusions.
    🤞Long live baseball as a working man's game.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      I took a 3 month or so sabbatical from these videos before I put this one together. I think it's pretty evident I just spilled all the varying thoughts I had over that time period.
      I commend you for the time and effort you put into youth sports! In no way was my intention to disrespect anyone involved. I've just seen some pretty disheartening things in my time involved with it, and i needed to vent a little bit.

    • @tnewton6762
      @tnewton6762 Год назад

      You're right on the money (pun intended). I see and have seen what I assume are the same things. And heading to college, I did feel very disadvantaged being from where I was and with no money. I actually showed up never having owned my own game bat (unimaginable to most kids now) and having played far fewer games than other players. Your post was a great reminder to continue to make efforts to keep desire and work ethic, not money, paramount in giving baseball opportunities. I don't have my own organization, I just volunteer coach and train as I can. But many who do could take some cues from this video.
      The cage is always free and open at my house. 👍
      Keep up the great work.

  • @earl_raymond
    @earl_raymond Год назад

    this video is so good. loved the story telling and showcasing some really cool baseball from the past. good luck!

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад +1

      I really appreciate it, man! Can't wait to riff on base all with you guys! The kind of support found in this community is so special.

    • @earl_raymond
      @earl_raymond Год назад +1

      @@Hatbilly yeah, because the community is actualyly really small. in terms on diy stuff. none of that big time prodcued stuff going on here. we don't need it! haha just honest work!

  • @peteraleksandrovich5923
    @peteraleksandrovich5923 Год назад

    Great stuff.

    • @Hatbilly
      @Hatbilly  Год назад

      I appreciate it! 😁