Steven Bonta's decipherment of Indus script.

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @yajnadevam
    @yajnadevam  Год назад +35

    Summary: Indus inscriptions seem to exhibit noun compounding, a characteristic of Indo-Aryan languages. Indus inscriptions are divided into fields, some fields contain measurement data. Based on this, values for 3 primary signs: pala, matra, dhanus were postulated. The other signs were derived from dictionary search of compounds containing these primary signs. The meaningful readings from this method are claimed to be a successful partial decipherment.
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    • @RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt
      @RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt 11 месяцев назад +5

      Indus language
      Is not Arya language
      Stop your proboganda
      many Western people try to protect indian brahamins people.😂😂😂😂😂

    • @NirmalKumar-ru2ke
      @NirmalKumar-ru2ke 9 месяцев назад

      JOURNEY OF CIVILIZATION INDUS TO VAGAI BOOK IS MAIN PROOF ...Then i am also lot evidence available
      people speak to Mainly Tamil language only..
      Why? ..I have proof.
      1.)TAMIL language total Number of inscription 67000 nos..Then inscription age 700.B.C.
      2.)SANSKRIT total inscription is 4500 only..Sanskrit INSCRIPTION is 100.B.C
      3.)Sangam literature lot proof avaialable..Sangam Literature land wise People how survive lot poem available. Kurinji land - mountain land, Mullai land- Tree land, Marutham land -aggreculture land , Neythal land - sea land , Paalai land - Desertland or Sand land or waste land ,So land wise poem avaialable..Sangam Litrature lot poem avaialable in desert land poems..Sangam Literature writing 2500 year ago..
      This is the mainly Proof ..
      India lot INSCRIPTION avaialable
      1.)Tamizhi inscription
      2.)Poly language inscription
      3.)Ashoca inscription
      4.)Devanagari inscription..
      5.)SANSKRIT inscription
      Then Tamil language world wide Lot of evidence is available. But Sanskrit evidence little bit only available..

    • @NirmalKumar-ru2ke
      @NirmalKumar-ru2ke 9 месяцев назад

      JOURNEY OF CIVILIZATION INDUS TO VAGAI BOOK IS MAIN PROOF ...Then i am also lot evidence available
      people speak to Mainly Tamil language only..
      Why? ..I have proof.
      1.)TAMIL language total Number of inscription 67000 nos..Then inscription age 700.B.C.
      2.)SANSKRIT total inscription is 4500 only..Sanskrit INSCRIPTION is 100.B.C
      3.)Sangam literature lot proof avaialable..Sangam Literature land wise People how survive lot poem available. Kurinji land - mountain land, Mullai land- Tree land, Marutham land -aggreculture land , Neythal land - sea land , Paalai land - Desertland or Sand land or waste land ,So land wise poem avaialable..Sangam Litrature lot poem avaialable in desert land poems..Sangam Literature writing 2500 year ago..
      This is the mainly Proof ..
      India lot INSCRIPTION avaialable
      1.)Tamizhi inscription
      2.)Poly language inscription
      3.)Ashoca inscription
      4.)Devanagari inscription..
      5.)SANSKRIT inscription
      Then Tamil language world wide Lot of evidence is available. But Sanskrit evidence little bit only available..

    • @VSM101
      @VSM101 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt how do you know that have you deciphered it lmao moron

    • @DevarjunSingh
      @DevarjunSingh 6 месяцев назад +2

      Someone who can't even write properly should not lecture

  • @yamsox
    @yamsox Год назад +61

    Thank you Yajnadevam for giving the opportunity to Steven Bonta to share his work. Much gratitude to him for the decades of research he has done. I am increasingly in awe of the Sanatana Dharma.

    • @ranapratapsingh3416
      @ranapratapsingh3416 7 месяцев назад +4

      The Vedic Rishis and sages may have created this Indus script to preserve their Vedas, upanishads and puranas.

    • @zojozojo-ox6wj
      @zojozojo-ox6wj 6 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣​@@ranapratapsingh3416

    • @Ujjwal445
      @Ujjwal445 25 дней назад

      I appreciate your view.Thanks

  • @adrianokury
    @adrianokury 4 месяца назад +7

    The amount of effort that Prof. Bonta put into this decipherment is astonishing, and his explanations are mesmerizing. My free time is limited, and yet I'm watching a 3 hours video...

  • @KrishnaAyilavarapu
    @KrishnaAyilavarapu 11 месяцев назад +26

    The measurement of "Pala" was used until 1940s in Telugu states. 16 Palams or 16 Masham = 1 Karsha (half oz) = 20 Chinnamu. The unit is small weight measurement as such grains like black gram seeds or Guruvinda seeds are used as weights on one side of balance to measure the weight of precious metals and gems. Pala also means meat in telugu. Tula and Kasu are the other measurements still being used for weighing gold.

    • @drashokkumar9209
      @drashokkumar9209 10 месяцев назад +8

      ' PALA' was a unit of weight , mentioned in KAUTILYA ARTHASHASTRA .
      Interestingly , ' PALA ' is also used in rural Jharkhand to measure certain forest products , like CHIRONJI ( almondette ) .

    • @crypton_8l87
      @crypton_8l87 3 месяца назад

      Also the same meanings in Kannada

  • @brahmoser1432
    @brahmoser1432 10 месяцев назад +10

    By far most scientifically and logically researched paper summary I've ever seen releted to IVC script. Hope will know more details in near future without any political ego stuff 😅

  • @LinJasmine-m4v
    @LinJasmine-m4v 6 месяцев назад +7

    Professor Bonta’s work is truly fascinating!

  • @DeccanPS
    @DeccanPS Год назад +15

    Thank you for the video. Great efforts by Dr Bonta. Please bring in more such videos. People are hungry for genuine scholarship and not the Witzel school of misinterpretation.

  • @MARK-gp9hb
    @MARK-gp9hb 8 месяцев назад +7

    He did it! Every other attempt at deciphering it which has been made pales in comparison! He is also good at explaining, it was very easy to understand, it kept me stuck to the screen the whole time.
    Now the question is what about the other words that are still undeciphered, maybe they are not indoarian and were borrowed, maybe the IVC had both indoarians and non-indoarians as inhabitants like in the case of the Mittanni.
    I also wonder what criticism he received, if there are any issues with this research and if it can be improved

  • @OpenRecords
    @OpenRecords 10 месяцев назад +3

    The most informative presentation on the Indus Valley text I’ve ever seen and really blows it right open. Just wow

  • @Apastambha
    @Apastambha 7 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks to Dr. Bonta for the excellent methodology and approach. I am wondering if there may be some conceived assumptions that a) Sanskrit is the spoken language b) Caste system rather than "profession-based system or Varna" c) short text dominated (rather than signs) analysis, etc. Prof. Rao (while excavating Dwaraka) mentioned lots of seals on shipments that explain the goods/merchandise in Medetarian trade. Another interesting fact is, Brahmi was everywhere in Bharat in different variances. In Andhra Pradesh, Bhattiprolu excavations proved that Telugu language is written in Bhami and even in Temples such as Gudimellam, Ramalingeswara Swamy temple, etc. during 3-4th century BCE. I concur with you that there was a missing link between Indus script to Brami script. However, Brahmi is more popular as it is more structured. Please add me to the future seminars! It is a great topic

  • @soothingnation5380
    @soothingnation5380 3 месяца назад +10

    The word
    SomaBhu is ShamBhu or also can be said as SywamBhu (i.e. Lord Shiva) and thats why it occurs over and over again.

    • @Subvishy
      @Subvishy 3 месяца назад +2

      WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @arkamukhopadhyay9111
      @arkamukhopadhyay9111 2 месяца назад

      Shiva did not exist until thousands of years later

    • @pmaster1173
      @pmaster1173 2 месяца назад +1

      @@arkamukhopadhyay9111Source?

    • @muralirajagopal2593
      @muralirajagopal2593 2 месяца назад

      No, it is Shambo (mahadeva)

    • @arkamukhopadhyay9111
      @arkamukhopadhyay9111 2 месяца назад

      @@pmaster1173 the first documented use of the word Shiva is in the Shvetashwatara Upanishad, a thousand years after the Indus Valley Civilization disappeared.

  • @beauforda.stenberg1280
    @beauforda.stenberg1280 6 месяцев назад +2

    This was a personally, very rewarding watch.

  • @ChinmayKelkar1707
    @ChinmayKelkar1707 Год назад +9

    Amazing work by Dr Bonta - history will remember him far more kindly than the present is...
    This is breakthrough research - wish GOI could help fund these type of studies and genuine scholars with no agendas! Thank you for giving him this platform!

  • @neil9457
    @neil9457 9 месяцев назад +8

    Please have a brief session on German linguist Kurt Schildman's decipherment on Indus Script. His outstanding achievement is the decipherment of the ancient Indian Indus Valley script in the mid-1990s - recognition of the phonetic structure of Paleo-Sanskrit which was not 'officially' recognized by AMT elites that controls the system. Kurt Schildmann worked as an interpreter for the new German Federal Ministry of Defense until his retirement in 1974, he founded the "Society of German Linguists", of which he later served as president and which published various of his publications.

  • @vp1o2
    @vp1o2 25 дней назад

    Incredible dedication. You are a ऋषि Dr. Bonta. Thank you for you search for truth on this topic.

  • @LS-ql4wp
    @LS-ql4wp Год назад +6

    Yajnadevam shd in the next video discuss his own paper with him

  • @LS-ql4wp
    @LS-ql4wp Год назад +7

    Must say it is way more complicated than yajna devam's decipherment

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад +11

    1.48.25 we have 10 direction in sanskrit
    And every direction protected by asht digpal अष्ट दिग्पाल plus 2 extra
    Here number of line shows king territory which is protected by king

    • @ivarhakuse8572
      @ivarhakuse8572 9 месяцев назад +1

      If you used colons instead of full stops in the time signature it becomes a link. Also you can tap/click the time signature icon found on the right of the box you type your comments in to make it even easier!!!

  • @nomdeguerre4249
    @nomdeguerre4249 23 дня назад

    Steven Bonta's approach and decipherment, though partial, is quite interesting and fairly convincing.

  • @mohansatpute5948
    @mohansatpute5948 Год назад +9

    This is the most comprehensive IVC decipherment effort and most likely near to the reality.

  • @triptouniverse1509
    @triptouniverse1509 2 месяца назад +2

    1:45:44 I would like to tell you more intresting fact about sanskrit that is the verbs are sometimes converted the same way we often do in English like go and going so in Sanskrit we often do this we take one word that is the origin of the further expanded words even Sanskrit makes 8x3 words out of one words which depends on the situations if you want to know more about this search "bhú" shabd roop in sanskrit or "balak shabd roop in sanskrit" you will might understand it just by looking at the scripts. Basically words in past tense present tense and future tense differ for same "original word" there is thing called 'vibhakti' that plays an important role forming sort sentences. Also compounding words is so casual in Sanskrit which is done by "sandhi-vichheda" which means "binding-breaking"

  • @chinmayjoshi3592
    @chinmayjoshi3592 8 дней назад +1

    @yajnadevam after reading through Steven's paper, I honestly think his theory and methodology is more robust than yours. Hope you'd also try out a more subjective, non-mathematical methods a try as well.

  • @mevenstien
    @mevenstien 9 месяцев назад +2

    Nice video , thank you for posting his work here. Those early times in India and its influences on indus valley are fascinating and can teach us alot.I find it very interesting.
    Been wondering about the
    Little seals as to being tributes to be paid , offerings to temples, and other trade in commerce . Well done!
    Have you or steve done any work on the excavated similar early egyptian "scorpion king" seals as early commerce or similar uses in connection with these very early indus seals and their influencial roles?
    Enjoyed this video and the Q&A afterward too. Looking forward to more ✨️🙂✨️

  • @extremaz9908
    @extremaz9908 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice presentation on a sensitive but enthralling topic. It seems to me that if we are comparing what we presume to be names which are composed of a few short sounds with names and name-endings that we find in a large body of literature, then we would expect to get a certain number of hits by chance alone. It would be promising to explore if it's possible to show that the amount of names that you have identified exceeds that than would be expected by chance alone.

    • @Subvishy
      @Subvishy 3 месяца назад

      Excellent question. I was wondering about this too but I could not put my finger on it till reading your comment…

  • @chinmayjoshi3592
    @chinmayjoshi3592 Месяц назад +1

    When the "square with a stick" logograph was assigned the value "bhu/bhū", I immediately thought of Brahmi bh-, which is also a square!

  • @qwertyca
    @qwertyca 4 месяца назад +2

    Holy shit, you did it. This is an AWESOME breakthrough!

  • @santhiramorgan8329
    @santhiramorgan8329 27 дней назад

    VERY CONVINCING.
    Getting it published will enable future researchers to do a literature review.
    Your linguistic analysis reveals about temple collections and kings, however, archaeologist have not found temples or event small shrines, and there is no evidence of kingdom or its hierarchy.
    I think you are in the right direction, though.

  • @archismanrudra9336
    @archismanrudra9336 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is so interesting!
    Two comments come to mind
    1. If you search the mythical chandra-vangsa / lunar dynasty, most of the names that you find occur as names in the losing side of the battle of ten kings - coincidence?
    2. The name sanskrita also means something that has been reformed. It occurs to me that initially the rules of how you form compounds etc have a lot of irregularities, but may be when these were sorted out and standardized, the new language was called sanskrita, or reformed language

    • @ईस्टINDIAकम्पनी
      @ईस्टINDIAकम्पनी 5 месяцев назад

      The priest community (Brahman caste) is ruling over us. All the Indian democratic institutions, media and courts has been captured by them. Thank you dear panelists for the discussion.

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 19 дней назад

    Egyptian, Sumerian, Hittite scripts were read by finding analogy with spoken modern languages, similarly Harappan scripts can be deciphered by Prakrit/Sanskrit words Pururavas (sun of the Puru people, Or Urvasi, resident of Ur.

  • @dr.hussainbuxkolachi6343
    @dr.hussainbuxkolachi6343 9 месяцев назад

    I heard this presentation while in Hyderabad Sindh heart of Indus valley i have visited 20 times mohanjo daro this lecture has done great service to original residents of Indus valley to decipher the script

  • @user-lh9no8ps2s
    @user-lh9no8ps2s 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great work 😮 Dr Bonta

  • @anuradham8435
    @anuradham8435 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting ❤ thank you

  • @Gman20
    @Gman20 23 дня назад

    1. Interesting note about ASTI as denoted by the jar sign- it is possible that it denotes an urn containing cremated remains, also called ASTI (at least in Tamil).
    2. The absence of Murtis is not that surprising. These people didn't leave their towns in a hurry. This means that it is highly likely that they would have taken the Murtis with them to wherever they went.

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  20 дней назад

      asthi is bone in Sanskrit

    • @Gman20
      @Gman20 17 дней назад

      @@yajnadevam No arguments from me. I was merely stating how the word ASTI is used in Tamil.
      That apart, thank you for the brilliant work you are doing. I sincerely hope that a documentary is made about your work, so that it reaches the masses (or at least the scientifically literate masses).

  • @sumanair9317
    @sumanair9317 9 месяцев назад +2

    Ancient people have a habit of burning the scriptures after memorizing. That might be the reason for an absence of long textured scripts or scriptures.In Sanskrit, the translation of grass is "thrunam".pel or pul is a Dravidian word for grass

  • @risingsun9064
    @risingsun9064 Месяц назад

    This was a very interesting talk. Are there any other forms of anthropological evidence for writing from the age besides seals? I think seals would be implemented for succinct descriptions like monetary transactions which only support low volume production (harder to create than inscribing on leaves etc.) as Steve suggested, but as we had abundance of other media to record things on like leaves, tree barks/reeds they would support a higher volume and more literal (transcriptional) recordings as opposed to abbreviated versions found on seals.

    • @risingsun9064
      @risingsun9064 Месяц назад

      The insight that these seals were primarily used for recording transactions is pretty neat!

  • @nostradamus2625
    @nostradamus2625 4 месяца назад +4

    This technique is quite laborious and time consuming for anyone to be able to verify/validate. This script was also found in the Easter Island (Rongorongo), Polynesian languages and even some South American native writings, which are relatively more recent compared to the IVC symbols may provide additional clues. IVC relics have been found in Mesopotamia and Central Asia , therefore it is plausible that IVC vocabulary may have migrated from IVC to the Caucasus and Iran where the Aryans may have originated and contributed to the languages when these people conquered lands in Europe ..R1A haplotypes entered via the east to Eastern Europe and R1B haplotypes migrated to Western Europe.
    The words such as sky in English transcribed phonetically as shka when reversed is akash in telugu. Fish in English Pisces in greeco-latin languages transcribed phonetically pische reversed Che pi or Che pa in telugu … shower in English when reversed wer sha or varsha for rain …. Indicating some connection between a Dravidian language far south and an Aryan language far north. ..… Could this be because of writing interpreted differently left to right vs right to left. Some words such as mud ( matti in telugu) cave (gu ha when ka and ga could be interpreted to be close)
    Considering the 8000 year old age of the IVC, it could be that the IVC or native Indian languages may have influenced the Aryan or European languages.

    • @steveherje4025
      @steveherje4025 2 месяца назад

      What are you talking about? Oh yeah, Atlantis, and a global high tech civilization 😂.

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 2 месяца назад

    Deciphering Egyptian or Sumerian or Hittites and other languages shows a common pattern. They all refer to contemporary spoken languages are directly related to the written languages of the past. As such this author/researcher's conclusion that the ancient Harappan language were related to Sanskrit/prakrit languages of the past and present.

    • @_.-c
      @_.-c 2 месяца назад

      Not true.

  • @truthconscience81
    @truthconscience81 2 месяца назад +1

    How about the yoga posture on the seal?

  • @Sara-cy3wo
    @Sara-cy3wo 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great work I always hoped to one day see some serious work on the deciphering of the script. Thanks a lot

  • @-757-
    @-757- Год назад +2

    Interesting and informative. Thanks for the work

  • @quasarsupernova9643
    @quasarsupernova9643 4 месяца назад

    Absolute Amatuer analysis: Fish = Matsya. In the 10 avatars of Vishnu, Matsya is the first avatar. So the fish may be the numeral "one". Also could stand for "man" (in a Patriarchal society). Fish with lines inbetween could be son, brother, father etc.

  • @sudhanvabhat3100
    @sudhanvabhat3100 10 месяцев назад +2

    Dear Sir, Can you read out megalithic graffiti since they share many symbols with indus script. There are mixed inscriptions of megalithic graffiti and brahmi

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  10 месяцев назад +1

      A few of them can be read. Mostly no, because they are so short.

    • @sudhanvabhat3100
      @sudhanvabhat3100 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@yajnadevam Thank you for the answer! A fan from IISc Bangalore

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  10 месяцев назад +4

      @@sudhanvabhat3100 would love to present at IISC if you can arrange it

  • @AbleLawrence
    @AbleLawrence 25 дней назад

    What would be the interpretation of the Dholavira sign that is among the longest

  • @meeras.g8087
    @meeras.g8087 Год назад +2

    Great, perfect logic. Thank you.

  • @nikitaagarwal5691
    @nikitaagarwal5691 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this lecture. I have a question. @2:40:00 Steve mentions about budha stupa at mohe jo daro sight however in my knowledge Gautam budha is believed to have lived in 5-6 century BCE. what am I missing?

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  10 месяцев назад +3

      A stupa was built on top of the old IVC ruins.

    • @nikitaagarwal5691
      @nikitaagarwal5691 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@yajnadevam Is it possible then that Buddhist stories or myths may have recorded their findings about IVC?

    • @NishantKumar-ry9rp
      @NishantKumar-ry9rp 10 месяцев назад

      Woh stupa bahut baad ka hai, indus valley civilisation ke time ka nahi.​@@nikitaagarwal5691

    • @NishantKumar-ry9rp
      @NishantKumar-ry9rp 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@nikitaagarwal5691lagbhag kushan period ka.

    • @linguistme6870
      @linguistme6870 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@nikitaagarwal5691 dear friend just a bitter truth if you accept then good , if you don't then also your choice but don't troll me after reading
      As per Matsya Purana chapter 271-272 can be used to find the time period of Siddarth Gautam Buddha which is only around 1200-1250 years after Mahabharat .
      So if we accept MB dating of around 3000s BCE as per of 700+ inscriptions found till date out of which Aihole Inscription is most famous then Siddarth (who was son of Suddhodhan , grandson of Shakya, father of Rahul in Ikshavku lineage) should be around 1800s BCE.
      The PURANS like Vishnu , Matsya , Vayu even claims Mauryas in 1500-1300 BCE time frame
      The Puranas list names of all dynasties of KALI in Parallel is mentioned.

  • @OfficialGOD
    @OfficialGOD Год назад +5

    2:30:46 Thanks!

  • @indusscript
    @indusscript 10 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate the Steven Bonta's efforts

  • @allampatisreedharreddy440
    @allampatisreedharreddy440 11 месяцев назад +2

    Phala as a measurements in our part of Nellore dt until the 1980s.
    Mainly by vegetable and fish sellers wos wod sell them house to house.

  • @adrianokury
    @adrianokury 4 месяца назад

    This is a fascinating video. There is however a technical glitch: the cursor does not appear in the video, so it is difficult to know which part Prof. Bonta is referring to, which is frustrating...

  • @mdmge
    @mdmge 2 месяца назад

    @yajnadevam please ask him to go through arthasashthra which mentions about coins in past being made of lapiz lazuli and square shaped .

  • @AkshayChaitanya
    @AkshayChaitanya 3 месяца назад

    There's a link with Sanskrit script which was symbolic in nature.

  • @AntediluvianBrew
    @AntediluvianBrew 4 месяца назад

    Perfect thank you so much

  • @mver191
    @mver191 9 месяцев назад

    I see great logic in this. I just have a question.
    Variants on pater (father) and mater (mother) are found in every indo european language.
    So patra meaning father and matra mother would make more sense to me than king or prince.
    The Ma however is an interesting symbol here. It either looks like a breast or female private part, which would makes sense in both instances.
    The Pa(la) looks like a pole, and a variant of pala is still used in mainland Europe for pole (Paal in Dutch for example).
    With just a slight bit of fantasy you can connect a pole to something a male has.
    Another word that would be interesting is "water" or some variant on it. We know the Hittites already used a variant on this word.
    So it would be the va/wa with the 3 stripes in theory.

  • @varunmoka28
    @varunmoka28 5 месяцев назад +1

    i cant see the pointer, to which he is referring to, can you add it please, it would help to understand

  • @mlucasGrindstone
    @mlucasGrindstone 9 месяцев назад +4

    I really enjoyed this. It opened my eyes to several things. Something has been weighing on my mind, the Bible has a similar structure and lineage. My postulate is the earliest aspects of the Bible come from the Mitanni, the Priestly Elite in the Levant. Working with this Abraham AKA Abram… was Brahmin! His two wives Sarah and Hagar correspond to the Saraswati in Hagar Swati.. tributaries of the Indus River… it was a written record of when the Saraswati was barren. One other key connection was the high priest Melchizedek who was the king and a priest. In India Malki Sadek… a king present in The Vedas.
    I have limited access to texts to do research, but I see many parallels in the structure of the history.

  • @jahanaraklug705
    @jahanaraklug705 9 месяцев назад +2

    Why should it all be Base in english? When i visited mohenjo i was welcomed..with the following word at the entrance of the priest and i m not craizy...,it took quiet long.you came back dear daughter...

  • @mohansatpute5948
    @mohansatpute5948 Год назад +6

    Dear Yajna Devam, you and Dr. Bonta should work together on this topic.

  • @jasonmiller7794
    @jasonmiller7794 22 дня назад

    Jar sign with one tick mark, for a single proprietor; with two marks for married couple as proprietor; with three marks for family ownership... or something along this line of reasoning... perhaps

  • @aresaurelian
    @aresaurelian 3 месяца назад

    MH4015 looks artistically (imaginative) as:
    'In the three/divided the people of the river delta is farming the land of the "Indus?" valley.'
    But it could also be a name, like: Tsh-Wou-Ada-Rh-Oumwau
    Now I can see why the trial and error does make sense. The transformer architecture models could help with this process, making centuries of trial and error in one day, critiquing itself, curating a list of solutions, presenting it on main linguist conventions or something for evaluation by humans.
    I would compare in the right era-specific context: Mesopotamia, Dilmun, Mehar, and Indus valley. It does make more sense that everything is more like trade-lingo, amounts, and book-keeping. Pala (prati) - to/from.
    MH2439 ?? - Fish constellation, the gods of the stars
    ICIT-5453 - Hand of god
    By trade, and migration.

  • @lewisrobinson3380
    @lewisrobinson3380 10 месяцев назад

    1:06:07 the symbol for Ma here looks a bit like one of the Chinese Hanja for má 麻 (hemp) upside down and simplified.

  • @MichaelMarko
    @MichaelMarko 10 месяцев назад +4

    I love this! Fantastic!

  • @RockciiBarbosa
    @RockciiBarbosa 16 дней назад

    Pala are still use in Buddhist specially in Mahayana. Specially Dammapala a mean protector.

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад +1

    1.53.17 is maatoshri मातोश्री
    Name very good name

  • @emrisrex
    @emrisrex 2 месяца назад +1

    Interesting, we always assumed that the language would be Dravidian....

  • @sourajitchanda1100
    @sourajitchanda1100 10 месяцев назад +1

    Simply awesome ❤🙂👍🏼

  • @baztel5561
    @baztel5561 9 месяцев назад +6

    The Vedas our literature of Sanatan Dharma, Oldest scriptures in the world Smriti & Shruti transmitted orally & memorised by our great Sages & Rishis. This orally recited & memorised even before the Indus Saraswati hydrographic finds, The seals of Pashupati in Mulabhandasana pose as that of Adhiyogy & the seals found of man in peepal tree awaiting by hungry tiger nearby is known even today as of a man on peepal tree fasting on Shivratri Shiva first Adhiyogy until next day as the hunger tiger had left. The proof of Sanatan Dharma is embedded in our civilisation from the beginning of Manu scriptures deciphering may help but memory of culture will always be here today & future 😊😊😊

  • @ranapratapsingh3416
    @ranapratapsingh3416 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great work from Steven Bonta. I tried to contact him before he never replied back to me. IVC is post-rigvedic society. By no means Saraswathi river is post-IVC. Some of the hymns in Rigveda easily go back to 7000 years BP especially the hymns that glorify saraswathi river as mighty and flowing all the way from Himalayas to the ocean.

    • @HarappanEnigma2024
      @HarappanEnigma2024 2 месяца назад

      GREAT . SARASWATI DRIED AND CHANGED COURSE AROUND 2000 BCE. Thus RIGVEDA CANNOT BE AFTER 2000 BCE FOR SURE.

    • @ranapratapsingh3416
      @ranapratapsingh3416 2 месяца назад

      @@HarappanEnigma2024 What non-sense logic is this ?. Saraswathi was a might river for serveral thousands of years. The composition of Rig-veda happened for several thousands of years. It is not correct to narrow down the composition to just 2000 BCE. So stop your foolish analysis .

    • @HarappanEnigma2024
      @HarappanEnigma2024 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ranapratapsingh3416
      WE ARE ON SAME PAGE; I MEAN IT IS FORM SAY 2000 BCE TO BACK SAY 12,000 BCE ; NOT AFTER 2000 BCE THAT IS SAY 1500 BCE

    • @ranapratapsingh3416
      @ranapratapsingh3416 2 месяца назад

      @@HarappanEnigma2024 Good . Sorry for my misunderstanding.

    • @HarappanEnigma2024
      @HarappanEnigma2024 Месяц назад

      @@ranapratapsingh3416 NOTE THE SARASWATI WAS IN FULL FROM 90,000 BCE TO 2000 BCE (GEOLOGICAL RESEARCH)

  • @anuradham8435
    @anuradham8435 9 месяцев назад

    Super…v impressive Dr. Bonta…thank you so much 🙏🏼

  • @jamesraymond1158
    @jamesraymond1158 10 месяцев назад

    Wonderful! Keep plugging away.

  • @lifentime1602
    @lifentime1602 29 дней назад

    It is not carving it is a print..the seal..may be letters are up down..first what was the purpose of those seals..r they currency or token for trading..

  • @kishorkarmarkar6288
    @kishorkarmarkar6288 4 дня назад

    Jay Shree Krishna.

  • @lewisrobinson3380
    @lewisrobinson3380 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve long been leaning towards a steppe theory for Indo-Iranian languages but this is certainly leading me to believe that a Indo-Iranian or more specifically Indo-Aryan language was in the area prior to even 1800 BCE.
    I’m curious how certain proto-Uralic words ended up Avestan and how certain Indo-Iranian words ended up in proto-Uralic now though. It was even brought up in this video but only a handful of languages have noun compounding to the level of German and Sanskrit most of which other North Eurasian languages like Uralic languages.

    • @DasanaMitana
      @DasanaMitana 10 месяцев назад +4

      There is Indo-Iranian or Iranian migration from South to North, since borrowing is one way into Proto-Uralic not both ways and there are words for Bactrian Camel cult in Proto Uralic which again indicates migration from Central Asia to Urals and not the other way around

    • @lewisrobinson3380
      @lewisrobinson3380 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@DasanaMitana There is likely 1 word that Proto-Indo-European or at least many of it's descendants got from Proto-Uralic.
      Proto-Uralic *kala which exists in Avestan as 𐬐𐬀𐬭𐬀‎ (kara) both meaning fish while probably missing within Indo-Aryan languages it is however in most other branches.
      In all proto-Uralic languages it means fish but in Indo-European languages it can be a whale, a shark or some other kind of large "fish". The reason this is believed to be a proto-Uralic word borrowing is because Indo-European languages already have other words for Fish derived from PIE *dʰǵʰu- and/or *peysḱ- that and Proto-Uralic *kala as a much more consistent meaning than the PIE derivations.
      Also to further bolster that argument Proto-Uralic *kala -> Proto-Indo-Iranian would result in *kara for Avestan however if it was originally a PIE word *kala or the other reconstruction given being *(s)kʷálos-> Avestan kara wouldn't work out due to satemization which for both reconstructions Avestan should be *skara or *skarah.
      Now it could be a later borrowing into Proto-Iranian via later migrations into Central Asia from the Steppe that are known to have occurred after ~1200 BCE or perhaps even via trade with Uralic speaking people selling fish.

  • @amitabhchahande3316
    @amitabhchahande3316 25 дней назад

    Cursor not seen throughout the video

  • @TheLargeoldshoe
    @TheLargeoldshoe 29 дней назад

    finally the indus script has been deciphered,, but no one including god has deciphered the woman’s mind

  • @AbhishekSharma-jp2oy
    @AbhishekSharma-jp2oy 2 месяца назад

    1:36:55
    Ati Raja Su Min
    Here Min means FISH

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад +1

    1.30.56 time
    Suma word is swaym bhu स्वयं भू राजा

  • @goodthoughts4139
    @goodthoughts4139 27 дней назад

    Man with bow can be : DhanurDhar.
    Man with vasu can be : VasuDhar

  • @rayhilchey6706
    @rayhilchey6706 9 месяцев назад +1

    Sir, I am completely amazed with your dissertation. As you mention your early ambition to solve an unsolved problem, I would consider that you have accomplished your life's goal. Certainly this research equals or even surpasses that ofJean-Francois Champolion. I have learned a few Sanskrit schlokas and collected several Harappa cylinder seals and clay goddesses and after taking refuge in Tantric Buddhism have gained a pityfull bit of knowledge on the subjects you have mastered.
    I recently acquired a Lapis Luzuli unicorn seal with a four letter inscription ending in an arrow Thank you for explaining it. Thank you for sharing your exceptional work

  • @kenswanson8222
    @kenswanson8222 2 месяца назад

    Is there a connection to Avastin or Elamite language?

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  2 месяца назад

      No

    • @kenswanson8222
      @kenswanson8222 2 месяца назад

      @@yajnadevam I was thinking this because I always thought the obvious connections between some words were PIE, Deva vs Daeva, Soma vs Haoma, Asura vs Ahura, rsti vs Arsti. Aren't these terms non-PEI? If so, does this point to a larger IVC culture and possibly relates to an earlier split in the origins of Vedic and Zoroastrian traditions? Elam was probably more tied to a separate indigenous language group, but it would be interesting if the IVC language ranged north.

    • @nomdeguerre4249
      @nomdeguerre4249 28 дней назад

      I think that your original question may have been misunderstood. The language postulated by Bonta in his presentation of partial decipherment of Indus script is Sanskrit, and not something else.
      But, I think you were asking in general... if so, yes, Sanskit and Avestan are indeed related to each other. Hence, the idea of an "Indo-Iranian" subfamily within the larger Indo-European. In fact, some lines from the Rig Veda and the Avesta (the scriptures of Zoroastrians) sound like 2 versions of the same thing word for word. Elamite is an unrelated language with no know relatives (a language isolate).

  • @malay2381
    @malay2381 10 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Excellent... No Words to describe your extensive work on this Script...

  • @iuvvicuuivcr
    @iuvvicuuivcr 9 месяцев назад +1

    The domestication of the Horse in 'Central Asia is consequential to the end of the Indus Valley Civilization. Armed Adventurous young Central Asians assembled near Kandahar in the west to raid the Valley through the hostile impregnable Bolan Pass.

  • @avish5959
    @avish5959 5 месяцев назад

    So did the nordic aryan wrote the vedas ?

    • @greaterbharat4175
      @greaterbharat4175 5 месяцев назад +4

      Nordic in the sence European ? Or Just northern Indian ?
      Rigveda wrote by rishis of north Western Indian of puru Bharats clan
      They deemed rakhsasa as enemy ( probably u.p Bihar region hunters gathers )
      They deemed dasa as enemy ( steppe central Asians )
      Danava as enemy , they were probably northern steppe ( danube steppe ) rigveda mentioned bad danava and good Danava , good Danava as danu Maruts who helped to uplift Indra worshipping in melchas land ( so yamanya people could be danu Maruts ) especially the young warriors warband of yamnaya they known as kóryos which tho is hypothetical name
      Rigveda only and only glorified puru Bharatas clan
      Vedas wrote under the leadership of ancestors of chandravanshi Hindu and sage were usan ( sukracharya) , bhrigu,atri , kashyap,angriras , vasistha, viswakarma and their disciples

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад +1

    महादेव mahadev
    Vasudev वासुदेव
    Indradev इन्द्रदेव
    Devswami देवस्वामी

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад

    Mh4650 is bhopalasy mean bhopal k liye mean for bhopal
    BHOPAL is Capital of madhypradesh

  • @farrukhnaqvi3424
    @farrukhnaqvi3424 Месяц назад

    I have deciphered the Indus script. You can contact me. My book will be ready by 28th Oct. I am the first person in thousands of years to revive the langauge which was taught by Brahma to Sarasavati-----------The person depicted on the "Pashupati seal" is not Shiva-----a Hindu deity but not Shiva------------happy to share

    • @gigilolo4660
      @gigilolo4660 29 дней назад

      2 days to go

    • @nomdeguerre4249
      @nomdeguerre4249 28 дней назад

      Super duper excited to read your book day after tomorrow!

    • @farrukhnaqvi3424
      @farrukhnaqvi3424 28 дней назад

      @@nomdeguerre4249 I am getting few copies printed for review.....but for others in Jan/Feb

    • @farrukhnaqvi3424
      @farrukhnaqvi3424 28 дней назад

      @@gigilolo4660 I am getting few copies printed for review.....but for others in Jan/Feb.

    • @BeingStoic086
      @BeingStoic086 20 дней назад

      Bro you are on a whole different level. Adbhut excited...😊 reviving the civilization is awesome😊​@@farrukhnaqvi3424

  • @sumanair9317
    @sumanair9317 9 месяцев назад +2

    So do you say that it's Proto sanskrit? If so the Yamnaya people or Eurasian people migrated and mixed with Indus people much before we anticipated? If so why is there an Archeological evidence of the similar kind of building constructions, advanced sewage canals, etc and pottery styles etc were absent during 1500-1000 BCE? Humans have a habit of repeating or replicating their habitat,habit, wherever they go!! But we haven't seen the IVC type of buildings &construction method is totally absent later on? Doesn't show us any evidence to connect ,they were the same people as far as the habitat is concerned. But you say that Lang has connected!! Need more clarity!!

    • @nandans2506
      @nandans2506 8 месяцев назад

      Decadence is a common phenomenon. We assume time is linear and we keep progressing however history shows us that urbanization/de-urbanization is a common occurrence. Civilizations rise and fall owing to not just external factors but because of religion, morals, birthrates and so on

  • @robothug6688
    @robothug6688 Месяц назад

    Those might not be fish signs that might be people signs. Like exchanging slaves for goods.

    • @robothug6688
      @robothug6688 Месяц назад

      And the different marks may indicate man, woman, child.

  • @user-iz2rm1kh8h
    @user-iz2rm1kh8h 2 месяца назад +1

    We have found shivlingam.... In indus valley.

  • @risingsun9064
    @risingsun9064 Месяц назад

    Why not use arxiv for publishing? The gatekeeping from current journals is disgusting and needs to be confronted with open source.

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад

    1.28.01 time in vedio
    Tri pati is Tripathi त्रिपाठी

  • @Loksog47
    @Loksog47 9 месяцев назад

    Very nice video

  • @gravewalker34
    @gravewalker34 21 день назад

    Temple culture is south indian culture adopted by north not vedic culture. People often mistake modern hinduism and vedic culture as identical. Its inspired by vedic not exactly identical. Most likely greco roman influence because idol worship didnt exist in vedic culture only fire sacrifices.

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад

    2.05.10 vasukra or vasisth वशिष्ठ

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist 2 месяца назад

    How could this script encode an Indo-Iranian language if it predates the Sintashta culture?

    • @yajnadevam
      @yajnadevam  2 месяца назад

      Simple: Sintashta is not the source of Indo-Aryan

  • @peterwaksman9179
    @peterwaksman9179 9 месяцев назад

    Fabulous analysis. Lucky you had a nearby language to try!

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад

    1.25.14 vedio time discussing name in sanskrit

  • @fokyoutube3501
    @fokyoutube3501 2 месяца назад

    You don't use AI to solve this?

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 9 месяцев назад

    Orkhon uses a fish symbol for m.

  • @NandKishor-fn5me
    @NandKishor-fn5me 10 месяцев назад +1

    Deva dhi dev mahadev

  • @goczho
    @goczho 10 месяцев назад +5

    If you will study deeply, you will find that Mahayan Buddhism is later called Hinduism (it's cause of conspiracies of clever people)
    people don't wanna accept this fact because of the politics

    • @NishantKumar-ry9rp
      @NishantKumar-ry9rp 10 месяцев назад +3

      It is Neo Buddhist propaganda 😂. Even " hindu " word is older than mahayan Buddhism 😂.

    • @NishantKumar-ry9rp
      @NishantKumar-ry9rp 10 месяцев назад +2

      Watch SANATAN SAMIKSHA.

    • @NishantKumar-ry9rp
      @NishantKumar-ry9rp 10 месяцев назад +2

      Mahayan khud hinduo ke cheezo ko copy kiya karta tha . Ek book hai " biography of Eminent monks" karke wo padh lo aur SANATAN SAMIKSHA channel ne bhi inn propaganda ko already expose kar rakha hai .

    • @jinxed4lyf763
      @jinxed4lyf763 20 дней назад

      What the fuck is this supposed to mean😂 hindu just means Persian for indus called by greeks referring to Sindhu settlements dumbass 😂 chamar kahika.