No actually sanskrit was really prominent in south india even today in Karnataka a whole village speaks sanskrit as their mother tongue. And languages like malyalam, kannada, Telugu have many Sanskrit words. I know it because I can speak kannada
It can't be called 'prominent' if 99% of people didn't know it. Yes the Brahmin-Kings elites used it as an 'elite' language, & they had sole power to standardize South Indian languages adding Sanskrit nouns. But its like a colonial English language, using English-nouns in spoken Hindi (HInglish).
Sanskrit being uncommon in South India is a misconception. It is very much essential to Indian culture across the Indian subcontinent, alongside the religional languages as well.
@@ReldrikGeoChola kings used to invite Sanskrit scholars to their kingdom to setup up monasteries as Sanskrit learning centers and also to translate Sanskrit accessories into local language.
It is buddhist Sanskrit not the classical Sanskrit of the Vedic Brahman, classical sanskrit evolved from a much older Language called BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit). More over the Tamil Brahmi inscription are taking about buddha, since even till 17th century south India was a completely Buddhist civilisation. Cholas were buddhist.
@@cestlavie2307stop the cap 😂 Classical Sanskrit evolved from Vedic Sanskrit, there is no such thing as Buddhist Sanskrit, the Buddhists primarily wrote in Pali and Prakrit. And the Cholas weren't Buddhists either, they were Shaivite Sanatanis, it's evident by all the temples constructed by them.
@@ReldrikGeo for political purpose , many tamil politicians spread this propaganda that sanskrit is a North Indian Aryan language so hence to distinguish themselves from north indians they claim that sanskrit never existed in any form in Tamil Nadu
Tamil religion is mother of all religions in India. Sanathanam buddham jainam saivam vainavam saktham koumaram vedhantham siddhantham kalantham yogantham nadhantham aaseevagam are all different off shoots of the ancient Tamil religion. Pls read about immortal saint Vallalar who reestablished the Tamil religion called Sanmargam in the 19th century. Vaalga Valamudan.
during the british period there was tamil leader called e v ramaswamy (periyar- people used to call him) he wanted to carve new country dravidanadu (which would be todays tamil nadu, andhra pradesh, karnataka, kerala) out of india when british were partitioning west and east pakistan. this man supported the pakistan and instead asked mr jinnah to support for dravidanadu but jinnah refused saying it is your problem. they say pen is mightier than --- hence this man and his disciples slowly started feeding minds of tamil people about aryan invasion theory and how aryans drove dravidian to south that north indian are not good people and they will impose hindi over tamil. even today movies are made showing north indians in poor light. the people of kerala, karnataka, andhra pradesh did not buy his arguements at that time but now due to some politician and communist parties in kerala they falling for his narratives. india was always multilingual region were spirituality and cultural rituals were conducted in sanskrit and local used to converse in prakrit which later transformed into regional language.
Hey, we stil call him Periyar! 😊 Btw, aryan invasion theory was from the white people. Ji nah did agree to support his cause but did not follow through. The meeting was recorded by the late CM Annadurai.
I am from Tamilnadu the Dravidanism is very much similar to Nazism, it didn't get to the levels of Nazism only because the border Tamil people didn't bought into the narrative, so the Dravidianist tone-downed their activities, but by series of mistakes made by congress party since independence, so in 1960's this group was able to gain full control of all walks of life in Tamil Nadu, like political, media and education and poisoning Tamil people slowly ever since. As you said watch the North-South divide document by Project Shivoham to get more detailed information.
Are you a Brahmin? or high caste. Those are the people that are pro-Sanskrit, becausue that served their 'material' (not spiritual) purposes thru history.
@@alani3992 As I said, I am from Tamil Nadu, unlike you I actually wanted the caste system to die out, so I didn't see caste in everything, Sanskrit was a civilizational language of Bharat for 1000s of years, just because I support Sanskrit doesn't mean I hate Tamil or any other languages. Sanskrit is the pride of Bharat, it would be foolish to let other steal the credit, Sanskrit does not belong to one part of Bharat but belong to all the people of Bharat because people from all parts of Bharat contributed to the knowledge pool, directly or indirectly.
@@alani3992 Not sure why there is so much divide based on caste system as this word is not even from scriptures. From whatever scriptures and gurus I have listened the varna system was based on which working class you are. If you are priest or teacher you are brahmans, soldiers or politicians are Kshatriyas, business mans are vaishyas and servicement, farmer, labourers are shudras and everyone purpose was to serve according to ther=ir varnashram dharma. If there was deformity which later added in the system then our goal should be to reform it but else we think how should we now punish those descendents of brahmans. Not sure how much we have looted as I got no generational wealth.. And I will say that by birth I am a brahman but by work I am a Shudra as I provide service as a Software Engineer... So the point is if you tend towards religion then we should follow what it originally taught us.. or if you want to just blame then keep doing what you have been doing. Best of luck in your endeavour
As a telugu guy our mother tounge telugu have almost more then 60% of Sanskrit words telugu people have every right to call Sanskrit as our mother which is a proud moment for our telugu language people😇😇😇
Entire Andhra has ancient Buddhist stupas and Schools, Buddhist invented Sanskrit and BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) which is why it may have some influence. Vedic Brahman is now occupying most of those places. and using Classical sanskrit.
@@cestlavie2307 buddhisht used prakrit not sanskrit. sanskrit is more grammetically improved and used by vedic follower while prakrit was commonly used language.
@@shubham40901 All illiterates read wikipedia and they think they know stuff. Well do you have a single evidence of Brahmanical sanskrit ever existing?
@@shubham40901 Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit , the very name sanskrit means Beautified. (Sanskaarit/संस्कारित) , but sanskrit did not fall from teh sky, we have many middle languages between the classical Sanskrit of the vedas developed after 13th century and Prakrit. We have examples of BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) and An priot Proto sanskrit also written by Buddhist in inscription such as rudradaman inscription. The thing is Brahmins writing history in indian books have completely shut their mouth on the evolution of sanskrit itself and who was studying it in India. Who invented etc.. The fact is Brahmins didnt even exist before 7th century. And they started writing on paper around 13th century, when Devanagri was invented, and that is when they wrote their vedas. Not a single evidence of Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata exist before 15th century. Not a single rock inscription of Brahminical sanskrit usage not even one. Only buddhist inscription exist of sanskrit. And it is written in Dhamma Script also known as Brahmi.
மதுரை என்றுபெயர் வைத்த மன்னர்கள் யார் எந்த நூற்றாண்டில் என்று ஆராய்ந்து காலத்தை உறுதி செய்தால் தமிழ் மொழி வயது என்ன என்று முழுமையாக அறிய முடியும்அந்த நகரத்தைச் தலைநகரமாக ஆண்ட பாண்டியன் மன்னர்கள் காலத்தில் மதுரையின் வயது எவ்வளவோ அவ்வளவு தமிழ் மொழியின் வயது என்று எடுத்துக் கொள்ளலாம் ஏனெனில் மதுரை தான் சங்கம் வைத்து தமிழ் வளர்த்த நகரம்
Madhu - rich - sweet Pandia - learnt.. If seperated tamil would be odd..sanga kala(not tamil words) the learnt used both and the language was rich. Now it's letters are incomplete and spoken different from what is written... LoL 😂
14:53 it is because sanskrit was not a common language in the south and even in the north during those times it technically wasnt accessible to everyone, it was basically kind of a priest language that was passed on among certain preist families through their gurukuls( like exclusive schools for priest families) , and it was not accessible for everyone that is the reason. and in the south it was even morse scarce because it had a totally different language history. and talking about bilungual , people obviously would have known multiple languages or dialects based on their region which were commonly used around there.
Yes audio tracks are a new thing. They get set based on your location. For example a Spanish vlog in India, would have English tiltle and audio in India, & Spanish elsewhere.
No in India the pattern was different Indians use to look tall in past Poor nutrition reduced height of humans in India and you can also see it in the case of Africa It's due to colonialism
Let me try to give some insight, this POV is skewed to begin with because these copper plates are predominantally made by Brahmins who migrated to the chola kingdom throughout time and these brahmins are the ones who practiced sanskrit. Tamils didnt have the practice of copper plate engraving it is a foriegn concept that was brought from the north as the brahmins migrated, the purpose of these coppper plates is more like an evidence that are possessed by the migrated foriegners themselves who got lands donated from the kings for sustanance, sort of like a copy of the public register maintained by the governmernt under that king either engraved in stone or inscripted in palm leaves. The actual documenttion held by the king's men does not have the sanskrit part that exist in the copper plates, it is solely made by the recieving party in this case migrators from north. So its not like tamils were bilingual to begin with, but overtime became multilingual as people migrated from all over the place and started living together. TLDR copper plates are a practice of sankrit speakers and there are only number of copper plates that exist vs thousands and thousands of tamil inscriptures that are solely tamil, so copper plates cannot be taken as an evidence for this case. This is by no means hate towards any language, culture or people but merely an attempt to shed light on a less known fact. There are several different language speakers and different communities lived alongside the tamils in the tamil speaking regions, over the time become one community. Other language speakers used tamil as well over the time but also used thier mopthertongue alongside...just like these copper plates. But that is not to say tamils were bilungual, more like other languages and people were accepted and they became multilingual. If one needs to know more about tamil culture, history, governance, etc...they should actually research about the thousands and thousands of stone inscription made by tamils
Both Dravidian Parties and the proponents of Sanatana Dharma are just misleading. Imperial Cholas using sanskrit is very common, The place over which imperial cholas ruled was heavily sanskritized, you cannot see that much of sanskrit in pandya territories. If you see sangam age cholas, they wouldn't have any sanskrit in their time, Project Shivoham just claims Tamil civilization is always bilingual to combat dravidian parties when the dravidian parties themselves are misleading. seems like there is no middle ground here. Telling that Cholas used sanskrit just enables Hindutva people to just claim everything of tamizh tradition as "SANATAN", it can only be claimed by the country INDIA, not the religion. Maayon is a tamizh god that has pre-vedic roots but is syncretized with Vishnu when Bhakti Movement came in full effect in Tamilakam. Murugan is a Tamizh god that got syncretized with Skanda/Karthikeya. Ancient Tamizh people, though it was urbanized through trade, seen Aryavarta or Northern Indian people as outsiders. We literally have a king from the Pandya Dynasty called "Nedunjeliyan" who is also called " Āriyappaṭai-kaṭanta Neṭuñceḻiyaṉ", which literally means "The one who defeated the Aryan Army". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netunceliyan_I There should be on no grounds where People can claim everything Sanatan, that is just so annoying.
This is totally misleading. Ariyappadai was referred to a particular Kingdom from the north. In the same text other kingdoms from the north are referred in different names. The same text also glorifies Vedic rituals and Vedas. Sorry! Your propaganda doesn't sell everywhere.
@ancientminds199 which text? Don't sell half information, you and the other hindutva people are doing the propaganda, we are not doing it. Don't so silly
13:30 you don't know meaning of CE and BCE? This is a shock for me because you do a lot of historical videos. CE common era = AD BCE before common era = BC Secularism the calendar standards of before Christ and Anno Domini
The equivalent of rosetta stone in India is Bi lingual inscription of King Asoka the great found at Kandahar Bilingual Rock Inscription. it had Greek and Aramaic written in it by an Indian King who at the time was speaking and writing primarily Prakrit.
@33:05 Bro literally talked about Pandyas in the cave temple inscriptions part where inscriptions were both in Grantha and Nagari scripts! Watch the video carefully..
The Hate against samskidham among is due to certain community who do not allow or against tamil worship in tamil temples.sanskit is no bodies mother or father language. These minorities always stick to regimes and legislate their wish against majority. India govt spending 117 million usd for sanskrit and 1.7 million for tamil. Arya or dravida is not tamil identity.
If you're being skeptical about Tamil society not being bilingual at all times (it largely isn't now, and it is not completely their fault), I recommend you watch certain videos on topic talking about the Tamil cultural revolution after Indian independence. Basically (the divide is of course from british times as said in the video, however modern history also shaped this conflict), India's first prime minister Nehru wanted Hindi to become the sole official language of India (there was a better way to do this and he didn't do it that way!), which caused an uprising in southern India, specially in Tamil Nadu. It lead to all sorts of things like Aryan Invasion theory and "Aryan-Dravidian conflict resulting in subjugation of tamils by brahmins from the north"; calling dravidians a different race--something that has no real genetic evidence. They literally said Hindu philosophy is Aryan and comes from the north, which is completely untrue, and it has as much contribution from the southern regions (probably more!) as it does from northern regions. In the end, all of this stuff was milked by tamil politicians to create hate and divide among people. Something still used today by ruling and other parties of Tamil Nadu. Periyar was the one who popularized it. Even though his fight was against castiesm in India (a good cause), he used a lot of false theories to propagate his beliefs.
The thing is there are a lot of politically motivated people in southern bharat try to tell tamil was the only language and is superior to sanskrit so much so that there was a separatist movement in history Today tamil political parties try to creat hate against sanskrit and hindi in perticular because two biggest national level political parties come from hindi belt states namely BJP and INC hence use hindi to communicate
That's not true either.. There are references in Ramayana and Mahabharata. 2 Languages existed one for Yagna which existed as sounds and that's Sanskrit and other Madhura Basha (Tamizh) Spoken by all as a mode of communication .. Even by Dasharatha and Rama...that's why even Chozhas call themselves they are from Ishwagu Ancestry which is Rama's Ancestry
@@prakashnagraj2449 you just proved my point do you think everyone in north was born speaking hindi? They learned over the course of time via interaction and pop culture . Here we can go to any state(far north, east north east ,west) with its own different language (example up the language changes every 10 miles there like a west up person won't understand person from east up and so on) but we can expect that they can communicate in broken hindi even villagers while in southern there is a deliberate attempt to shut people from rest of country sometimes it is also seen in west bengal. And before you start yapping about why hindi? It is simple because it is spoken by most people and unlike english it is easier for any bhartiya to learn that's the reason why even after teaching English from pre independence era most people still can't grasp it that easily 10% peakers) as for me I am ready to learn any language but if population is not criteria then simply there is no reason that specifically your prefered language be taught (be it any telugu,tamil,kannada, odiya, assamese etc) and not any other so there will be opposition from other language enthusiasts . hope you understand Have a good day/night namaste
@@Yamraj-u6i my point is clear we don't want to learn hindi to make you northies comfortable. If move to delhi I'll learn hindi if your people move to tamil nadu, they should learn tamil. We are not your slave. Vannakkam
@@prakashnagraj2449 Fair point I must say but does that mean we both are slaves of America,britain or maybe australia since we both are using their language? Ne need to answer I am not going to reply Just pointing out how much you have been brain washed and fyi I can surely say you wellcome to delhi without knowing a single word of hindi most of us didn't we either learned with interaction or by being second gen(born here) . When we go back to homes we speak our native tongue I have punjabi,haryanvi,bihari bangali friends and we get along pretty well
On your question of why he mentioned that Tamilians were bilingual. .. You need to look in to very basic if the language issue that brainwashing that current and past .. which is all same. Communist govt. Has done by dividing people based on even language. In a multilingual country.. . If u seek more.. u may find better..
1:10 i see a potential job losses 😂 I've discovered this yesterday from Mark Rober's Smartest crow video. He got like 32 languages including Malayalam (btw Malayalam its not great it was difficult understanding, prolly dvlping.. but hindi, Japanese were gud)
@@ReldrikGeo again he is shocked because according to our scriptures people used to be taller and every yug human height decrease and there life span too like in the end of kalyug people are going to dwarf and the maximum life span going to be 12 years.
Sanskrit has been butured in north india s much so that north indians understand urdu better than Sanskrit Most hindi words are now derived from urdu or Persian rather than Sanskrit If somebody uses classical hindi publically u will get mocked and called hindi medium boy/girl or dehati Bacha which means village boy Since we have no Respect for our own mother tounge we don't respect other regional languages also😢😢
In this video, he said, 'Cholas love to refer to themselves as the generation of Vishnu.' That's a myth. Both Raja Raja Chola and Rajendra Chola built temples for Lord Shiva, not Vishnu. I think they read the copper scripts of kulothunga cholan. He is a Telugu king. In Netherlands they have both rajendra cholan and kulothunga cholans scripts. I am from Tamil Nadu, so please don't say such things in Tamil Nadu. Also, don't refer to us as Dravidians, because that is not our original identity. There is no Dravidian trace in South India; only Tamil traces are present in ancient India.The name Dravidian was mentioned by caldwell only.
@@kannanrj6508they are very very late Dravidians not older meaning it went during early medieval period Central Dravidian like gond( their genetic is not Dravidians but austro- asiatic) they have very admixture Language, They called their lord in their language as seikh which is common used for village head and diety ( ofcourse it's Persian - arabic influenced ) Brahui is multi mixed ( like Urdu ) it has Arabic , Persian ( Iranic) local indo Aryan and Dravidian influenced Only 15 percent is Dravidians influenced Brahui speaker Genetically indo European ( both Iranic and indo Aryan)
There is no Aryan race it is missionary anti-Hindu conspiracy. Arya is a title it means Noble human. Tamil kings called themselves Arya or Aryaputras. even by other locals.
It is highly impossible for the normal people to be bilingual in ancient tamil regions esp Tamil and Sanskrit. The possible reasons could be: 1. Sanskrit was never a language spoken in larger masses even in Northern part of india. (And thats why even today 95% of people in northern part of india do not speak the language in day to day life) 2. Sanskrit was treated as a sacred language, only a particular section of people learnt such as temple priests, Inscribers etc., 3. Even in those already sanskrit learnt section of people, prob did not speak the language but just by hearted the slogams and recited 4. The common people who did not have to learn the slogams has no use of learning a language which they never use 5. Sanskrit started entering tamil region during pallava times around 600 CE. The later kings just followed the practice and has always remained only in temple practices. It had no role in day to day life. 6. Sanskrit was not so prevalent in tamil regions even after centuries, so you barely find Sanskrit inscriptions. It was always tamil (could be bcoz of above mentioned reasons) 7. Even in this video, the presentor us just presenting the inscriptions on temples and some official documents and not the actual literature part. 10. And another question, when British, Portuguese, danes, French, mughals came to india, india was already ruled by different kingdoms and was never under a single ruler. 9. In ancient Tamilagam, we did have multilinguals prob in the bazars to perform trade activities, however i still doubt if they spoke sanskrit? As simple as that !!!
@prakashsivan1234 I doubt the siddhars ( yoga) and the temple dancers who practiced their art forms can actually read, write or speak Sanskrit in its full form to understand the dance treaties such as natya sashtra during ancient Tamil lands. I strongly believe that natya sashtra was written based on the already existing art form and not the other way around. Also the other thing must be taken into account that the current art form was connected to natya sashtra in order to bring classical status to the local arts. During this many existing structures were removed and probably some new things were added in order to fit into the norm. These all happened only the last 100 years, if not later
@@German_Tamil-su9nr Whatever you said must on base on facts and documented evidence, Natya sastra and Yoga sastra are found in tamil nadu. There are many dance develop by human and free flow of dance are being practiced by each community. North east India dance such as Pung Cholom for Manipur, Loho from Meghalaya. There is no evidence of Dasai Attam are performed similar like Bratha natyam Omg dancers no need to read and write Sanskrit, there will a guru who teach them base on the Natya sastra which written in sanskirt. The guru will master the Sanskrit language. Sa, re, ga, ma originated from Sama Veda. Then why the music mentor in south are using this swara’s written in Sanskrit. Sa (षड्ज): - Origin: Derived from the Sanskrit word "षड्ज" (Shadja), meaning "the sixth" or "the note that is the foundation." - Meaning: Represents the tonic note or the first note in the scale. South Indian Brahmins can recited the Sanskrit better than North Indian Brahmin.
@prakashsivan1234 Yes, True South Indians pronounce and recite slogans better. However as a south Indian myself and having learnt carnatic music, I can tell you that. Sanskrit was not as prominent as we expect in the south. It was not because of dravidian movement or British colonization. Sanskrit has been present in temple worship from approx. 700 CE. However was not a norm until 14/ 15 th CE. Even during king coronation it was a practice of reciting only Tamil hymns. A great example is Thailand still recites Tamil hymns during their kings coronation. Tamils dominated SEA until 14th CE, so the practice was exported to their reigning parts. Again I am not saying that we hated Sanskrit. However we had no use of using Sanskrit at least in Tamil speaking regions. The sanskritised vocabulary became prominent in carnatic music because there are songs of Telugu, kannada and malayalam which had Sanskrit words in them. So Tamils just sang. Even now Tamil carnatic vocalists are sometimes criticized for not pronouncing the words right or cutting a word in the middle to fit the ragam. It's all because we still don't understand the language completely as we don't use them as often. Since we have our history inscribed on tanjavur temple, we know exactly how sadir, chinna melam, periya melam became bharatanatyam. Also for your info, we actually don't know the author of natya shastra, that's why he was randomly named bharata. According to our records the name bharatanatyam was coined by rukmini devi Arun Dale in order to remove the stigma attached to the dance form till then and to encourage women to learn the art form.
Sanskrit is the Oldest language... Sanskrit is more than 40000 yrs old.. Tamil is around 7000-8000 yrs old.... Some Tamilians try to prove tamil is older but its totally untrue..
@thedishwasherakawomen8878 Tamilian spotted 🤣😂.. Go & chk Nilesh oaks videos.. He has found clear astronomical description in Vedas, ramayan, Mahabharata,surya siddhant and various texts which obviously r in sanskrit.. Rigveda text gives various astronomical reference which takes back to 25000 yrs ago.. Surya siddhant text takes back to 38000-39000 yr mark.. & All these texts r in sanskrit not in tamil.. So stop claiming tamil as oldest.. U shd go & watch Nilesh oaks videos
Well based on the archeological excavations in Tamilnadu so far, we are sure of continuous human presence in present day Tamil nadu as early as 3500 BC- 4000 BC, without any doubt.
I had a lot of people dislike the way I was doing it, lots of push back. So I'm going to retool it. Maybe make a google doc with all the videos and have a better way to randomly select
Thamizh (Tamil) is the Oldest living language under the sun and Sanskrit DOESN'T have any own letters and only started 2AD by borrowing other language letters. Tamil CULVERTS and Tamil inscriptions on Palmyra leaves. But the Brahmins who used the Copper Plates to writ theirs NOT Cholas. Tamil is NOTHING to do with the Sanskrit at all.
Yes close eyes and say it's dark - the present State of tumils.(தமிழ்) My lovable language but spoiled by politics..it has very poor letters, written and spoken different. Sanskrit not interrupted by foreigners forces and nastic who abuse our tradition for benefits from foreign hand. We proud Brahmin community good in tamil as equal as sanskrit. Majority of tumils spend energy in abusing us and there by leaving tumil' in pathetic condition. LoL
Its not bilingual society when no one speaks it. Sanskrit was a laguage for writing not speaking. Common people spoke tamil. Sanskrit was invented by the buddhist to write religious stuff, later Brahman learnt it and used it for writing the dirty material in Brahmanical texts.
@@kannanrj6508 No that is not true, Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit. A middle language between CLassical Snaskrit of the vedas and Prakrit exists, its called BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) in Gupta script. they are exactly in the middle of linguistic and script evolution. the language evolved prakrit but the script evolved from Dhamma/Brahmi script. Which is why all old Sanskrit inscription use Buddhist Sanskrit in Asokan Brahmi script or Gupta Brahmi script. Classical Sanskrit that Brahmins use to write Vedas simply cannot be written before 13th century. when Sharda/Nagri script became available. Sanskrit has nothing to do with Brahmins or the vedas they used the language only after 13th century. There is a reason why Brahmins never build any schools or universities because they never studied before 13th century,. There is a reason why the oldest Brahminical document of any kind is from 15th century. A single page of Rigaveda in classical sanskrit. Meanwhile Buddhist inscriptions are the oldest in India even the Buddhist Sanskrit inscriptions are from are from 1st century such as Rudradaman rock inscription in Junagarh. Not a single parallel evidence of Brahman or their Veda or whatever has ever been found.
@@kannanrj6508 Not true, Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit. we have a series of evidence, we have BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit), We also have sanskrit written by buiddhist in modified asokan brahmi, i.e Rudradaman inscription, which is talking about how rudradaman made the lake made by Samrat asoka even bigger and more beautiful. We have tons of inscription of Buddhist Sanskrit in Gupta script. But we have no evidence of brahmanical stuff before 14th century. Not we have any inscription in India older than Buddhist rock inscriptions. If Brahmins ever existed before 14th century their kings would have written something. Entire Brahminism is stolen and build on the ashes on Buddhism.
Bulshit! That's all it was! First, Grandha script is NOT the predecessor of the current Tamil Script! Neither it's to Devanagari. Second, bilingualism is a modern thing. As a Tamil and read a lot of old Tamil literature and read, write Sanskrit, I cam assert that Tamil country was not bilingual. Third, this so called 'British propaganda' is a propaganda by the hindhuthva gang. I recommend the series 'Tamizhi' mapping the evolution of Tamil script and its connection to Indus script. ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf
Cholas NEVER ever thought that they were descendents of so called Vishnu at all but The Cholas Empire BUILT all their Temples for Tamil God Siva & Murugan but the Tamil Pallav Kings built Vishnu Temples and actually Tamil Word VINNAKARAM was changed as so called Vishnu by Brahmins. Tamil Pandiya Kingdom ruled more than 2000 years and they R the loungers rulers in the entire world. Tamil Chera king also ruled so long. Chola Empire also long one, they ruled Tamilnadu before 2000 years and lost their rule to Tamil Pallav Kings. After Pallava Kings were defeated by Chola Empire, they became rulers again and Pandiya Kingdom also was there Chola Empire ruled part of south Asia and South east Asia.
The Copper Plates have Tamil ONLY and used Tamils' invented Kirantham letters to write . Y the HELL, Tamils need another language Sanskrit with NO OWN letters, while Tamil can FUNCTION perfectly without the Sanskrit??? All 63 Nayanmar ( Devotional Poets) 12 Azhvars ( Devotional Poets) sang in Tamil only NOT IN the alien Sanskrit. Then Y the HELL Tamils need the Useless Sanskrit????
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No actually sanskrit was really prominent in south india even today in Karnataka a whole village speaks sanskrit as their mother tongue. And languages like malyalam, kannada, Telugu have many Sanskrit words. I know it because I can speak kannada
That's what I thought too
It can't be called 'prominent' if 99% of people didn't know it.
Yes the Brahmin-Kings elites used it as an 'elite' language, & they had sole power to standardize South Indian languages adding Sanskrit nouns.
But its like a colonial English language, using English-nouns in spoken Hindi (HInglish).
Yeah for us Kannadigas both Kannada and Sanskrit are very dear to us
Sanskrit being uncommon in South India is a misconception. It is very much essential to Indian culture across the Indian subcontinent, alongside the religional languages as well.
That's what I understand at least from the last year of me learning about India
@@ReldrikGeoChola kings used to invite Sanskrit scholars to their kingdom to setup up monasteries as Sanskrit learning centers and also to translate Sanskrit accessories into local language.
It is buddhist Sanskrit not the classical Sanskrit of the Vedic Brahman, classical sanskrit evolved from a much older Language called BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit). More over the Tamil Brahmi inscription are taking about buddha, since even till 17th century south India was a completely Buddhist civilisation. Cholas were buddhist.
@@cestlavie2307stop the cap 😂
Classical Sanskrit evolved from Vedic Sanskrit, there is no such thing as Buddhist Sanskrit, the Buddhists primarily wrote in Pali and Prakrit. And the Cholas weren't Buddhists either, they were Shaivite Sanatanis, it's evident by all the temples constructed by them.
@@cestlavie2307 டேய் நாயே வேற எங்கயது போய் பூ சுத்து
The best sanskrit speakers and sanskrit teachers are from Tamil Nadu.
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Whoa really? That's interesting
@@ReldrikGeo mostly tamil brahmins , not other communities
@@ReldrikGeo Exactly, please ask him to name the people who speaks Sanskrit in Tamilnadu!!? 😅
10:56 to propagate distorted narratives like the Aryans vs Dravidians story
Why does there have to be such a divide
@@ReldrikGeo to get votes
@@ReldrikGeo Politics to get vote and the people are divided it is easy to manipulate them
@@ReldrikGeo for political purpose , many tamil politicians spread this propaganda that sanskrit is a North Indian Aryan language so hence to distinguish themselves from north indians they claim that sanskrit never existed in any form in Tamil Nadu
Tamil religion is mother of all religions in India. Sanathanam buddham jainam saivam vainavam saktham koumaram vedhantham siddhantham kalantham yogantham nadhantham aaseevagam are all different off shoots of the ancient Tamil religion. Pls read about immortal saint Vallalar who reestablished the Tamil religion called Sanmargam in the 19th century. Vaalga Valamudan.
during the british period there was tamil leader called e v ramaswamy (periyar- people used to call him) he wanted to carve new country dravidanadu (which would be todays tamil nadu, andhra pradesh, karnataka, kerala) out of india when british were partitioning west and east pakistan. this man supported the pakistan and instead asked mr jinnah to support for dravidanadu but jinnah refused saying it is your problem. they say pen is mightier than --- hence this man and his disciples slowly started feeding minds of tamil people about aryan invasion theory and how aryans drove dravidian to south that north indian are not good people and they will impose hindi over tamil. even today movies are made showing north indians in poor light. the people of kerala, karnataka, andhra pradesh did not buy his arguements at that time but now due to some politician and communist parties in kerala they falling for his narratives. india was always multilingual region were spirituality and cultural rituals were conducted in sanskrit and local used to converse in prakrit which later transformed into regional language.
Hey, we stil call him Periyar! 😊
Btw, aryan invasion theory was from the white people.
Ji nah did agree to support his cause but did not follow through. The meeting was recorded by the late CM Annadurai.
@@kannanrj6508 i call him scortum
I am from Tamilnadu the Dravidanism is very much similar to Nazism, it didn't get to the levels of Nazism only because the border Tamil people didn't bought into the narrative, so the Dravidianist tone-downed their activities, but by series of mistakes made by congress party since independence, so in 1960's this group was able to gain full control of all walks of life in Tamil Nadu, like political, media and education and poisoning Tamil people slowly ever since. As you said watch the North-South divide document by Project Shivoham to get more detailed information.
lol what??!?
Are you a Brahmin? or high caste.
Those are the people that are pro-Sanskrit, becausue that served their 'material' (not spiritual) purposes thru history.
@@alani3992 As I said, I am from Tamil Nadu, unlike you I actually wanted the caste system to die out, so I didn't see caste in everything, Sanskrit was a civilizational language of Bharat for 1000s of years, just because I support Sanskrit doesn't mean I hate Tamil or any other languages.
Sanskrit is the pride of Bharat, it would be foolish to let other steal the credit, Sanskrit does not belong to one part of Bharat but belong to all the people of Bharat because people from all parts of Bharat contributed to the knowledge pool, directly or indirectly.
@@alani3992 Not sure why there is so much divide based on caste system as this word is not even from scriptures. From whatever scriptures and gurus I have listened the varna system was based on which working class you are. If you are priest or teacher you are brahmans, soldiers or politicians are Kshatriyas, business mans are vaishyas and servicement, farmer, labourers are shudras and everyone purpose was to serve according to ther=ir varnashram dharma. If there was deformity which later added in the system then our goal should be to reform it but else we think how should we now punish those descendents of brahmans. Not sure how much we have looted as I got no generational wealth.. And I will say that by birth I am a brahman but by work I am a Shudra as I provide service as a Software Engineer...
So the point is if you tend towards religion then we should follow what it originally taught us.. or if you want to just blame then keep doing what you have been doing. Best of luck in your endeavour
@@folklorian4368 Lol a DMK thug spotted
As a telugu guy our mother tounge telugu have almost more then 60% of Sanskrit words telugu people have every right to call Sanskrit as our mother which is a proud moment for our telugu language people😇😇😇
Entire Andhra has ancient Buddhist stupas and Schools, Buddhist invented Sanskrit and BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) which is why it may have some influence. Vedic Brahman is now occupying most of those places. and using Classical sanskrit.
@@cestlavie2307 buddhisht used prakrit not sanskrit. sanskrit is more grammetically improved and used by vedic follower while prakrit was commonly used language.
@@shubham40901 All illiterates read wikipedia and they think they know stuff. Well do you have a single evidence of Brahmanical sanskrit ever existing?
@@shubham40901 Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit , the very name sanskrit means Beautified. (Sanskaarit/संस्कारित) , but sanskrit did not fall from teh sky, we have many middle languages between the classical Sanskrit of the vedas developed after 13th century and Prakrit. We have examples of BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) and An priot Proto sanskrit also written by Buddhist in inscription such as rudradaman inscription. The thing is Brahmins writing history in indian books have completely shut their mouth on the evolution of sanskrit itself and who was studying it in India. Who invented etc.. The fact is Brahmins didnt even exist before 7th century. And they started writing on paper around 13th century, when Devanagri was invented, and that is when they wrote their vedas. Not a single evidence of Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata exist before 15th century. Not a single rock inscription of Brahminical sanskrit usage not even one. Only buddhist inscription exist of sanskrit. And it is written in Dhamma Script also known as Brahmi.
மதுரை என்றுபெயர் வைத்த மன்னர்கள் யார் எந்த நூற்றாண்டில் என்று ஆராய்ந்து காலத்தை உறுதி செய்தால் தமிழ் மொழி வயது என்ன என்று முழுமையாக அறிய முடியும்அந்த நகரத்தைச் தலைநகரமாக ஆண்ட பாண்டியன் மன்னர்கள் காலத்தில் மதுரையின் வயது எவ்வளவோ அவ்வளவு தமிழ் மொழியின் வயது என்று எடுத்துக் கொள்ளலாம் ஏனெனில் மதுரை தான் சங்கம் வைத்து தமிழ் வளர்த்த நகரம்
Madhu - rich - sweet
Pandia - learnt..
If seperated tamil would be odd..sanga kala(not tamil words) the learnt used both and the language was rich. Now it's letters are incomplete and spoken different from what is written... LoL 😂
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The OG 🙇♂️
@@munslow_ak6248haha nothing like that ❤
14:53 it is because sanskrit was not a common language in the south and even in the north during those times it technically wasnt accessible to everyone, it was basically kind of a priest language that was passed on among certain preist families through their gurukuls( like exclusive schools for priest families) , and it was not accessible for everyone that is the reason.
and in the south it was even morse scarce because it had a totally different language history.
and talking about bilungual , people obviously would have known multiple languages or dialects based on their region which were commonly used around there.
Yes audio tracks are a new thing. They get set based on your location.
For example a Spanish vlog in India, would have English tiltle and audio in India,
& Spanish elsewhere.
26:47 Means a lot man, only pure genuine love 🫶🏻
Thanks for the Shoutout as well 😂❤
No in India the pattern was different
Indians use to look tall in past
Poor nutrition reduced height of humans in India and you can also see it in the case of Africa
It's due to colonialism
10:50 To get VOTES
14:21 it does makes sense, I explained you this in a older video in-depth but probably RUclips removed it or you didn't read that yet
Let me try to give some insight, this POV is skewed to begin with because these copper plates are predominantally made by Brahmins who migrated to the chola kingdom throughout time and these brahmins are the ones who practiced sanskrit. Tamils didnt have the practice of copper plate engraving it is a foriegn concept that was brought from the north as the brahmins migrated, the purpose of these coppper plates is more like an evidence that are possessed by the migrated foriegners themselves who got lands donated from the kings for sustanance, sort of like a copy of the public register maintained by the governmernt under that king either engraved in stone or inscripted in palm leaves. The actual documenttion held by the king's men does not have the sanskrit part that exist in the copper plates, it is solely made by the recieving party in this case migrators from north. So its not like tamils were bilingual to begin with, but overtime became multilingual as people migrated from all over the place and started living together. TLDR copper plates are a practice of sankrit speakers and there are only number of copper plates that exist vs thousands and thousands of tamil inscriptures that are solely tamil, so copper plates cannot be taken as an evidence for this case. This is by no means hate towards any language, culture or people but merely an attempt to shed light on a less known fact.
There are several different language speakers and different communities lived alongside the tamils in the tamil speaking regions, over the time become one community. Other language speakers used tamil as well over the time but also used thier mopthertongue alongside...just like these copper plates. But that is not to say tamils were bilungual, more like other languages and people were accepted and they became multilingual. If one needs to know more about tamil culture, history, governance, etc...they should actually research about the thousands and thousands of stone inscription made by tamils
Both Dravidian Parties and the proponents of Sanatana Dharma are just misleading. Imperial Cholas using sanskrit is very common, The place over which imperial cholas ruled was heavily sanskritized, you cannot see that much of sanskrit in pandya territories. If you see sangam age cholas, they wouldn't have any sanskrit in their time, Project Shivoham just claims Tamil civilization is always bilingual to combat dravidian parties when the dravidian parties themselves are misleading. seems like there is no middle ground here. Telling that Cholas used sanskrit just enables Hindutva people to just claim everything of tamizh tradition as "SANATAN", it can only be claimed by the country INDIA, not the religion. Maayon is a tamizh god that has pre-vedic roots but is syncretized with Vishnu when Bhakti Movement came in full effect in Tamilakam. Murugan is a Tamizh god that got syncretized with Skanda/Karthikeya.
Ancient Tamizh people, though it was urbanized through trade, seen Aryavarta or Northern Indian people as outsiders. We literally have a king from the Pandya Dynasty called "Nedunjeliyan" who is also called " Āriyappaṭai-kaṭanta Neṭuñceḻiyaṉ", which literally means "The one who defeated the Aryan Army".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netunceliyan_I
There should be on no grounds where People can claim everything Sanatan, that is just so annoying.
This is totally misleading. Ariyappadai was referred to a particular Kingdom from the north. In the same text other kingdoms from the north are referred in different names. The same text also glorifies Vedic rituals and Vedas. Sorry! Your propaganda doesn't sell everywhere.
@ancientminds199 which text? Don't sell half information, you and the other hindutva people are doing the propaganda, we are not doing it. Don't so silly
13:30 you don't know meaning of CE and BCE? This is a shock for me because you do a lot of historical videos.
CE common era = AD
BCE before common era = BC
Secularism the calendar standards of before Christ and Anno Domini
The equivalent of rosetta stone in India is Bi lingual inscription of King Asoka the great found at Kandahar Bilingual Rock Inscription. it had Greek and Aramaic written in it by an Indian King who at the time was speaking and writing primarily Prakrit.
@33:05 Bro literally talked about Pandyas in the cave temple inscriptions part where inscriptions were both in Grantha and Nagari scripts! Watch the video carefully..
The Hate against samskidham among is due to certain community who do not allow or against tamil worship in tamil temples.sanskit is no bodies mother or father language. These minorities always stick to regimes and legislate their wish against majority. India govt spending 117 million usd for sanskrit and 1.7 million for tamil. Arya or dravida is not tamil identity.
If you're being skeptical about Tamil society not being bilingual at all times (it largely isn't now, and it is not completely their fault), I recommend you watch certain videos on topic talking about the Tamil cultural revolution after Indian independence. Basically (the divide is of course from british times as said in the video, however modern history also shaped this conflict), India's first prime minister Nehru wanted Hindi to become the sole official language of India (there was a better way to do this and he didn't do it that way!), which caused an uprising in southern India, specially in Tamil Nadu. It lead to all sorts of things like Aryan Invasion theory and "Aryan-Dravidian conflict resulting in subjugation of tamils by brahmins from the north"; calling dravidians a different race--something that has no real genetic evidence. They literally said Hindu philosophy is Aryan and comes from the north, which is completely untrue, and it has as much contribution from the southern regions (probably more!) as it does from northern regions.
In the end, all of this stuff was milked by tamil politicians to create hate and divide among people. Something still used today by ruling and other parties of Tamil Nadu. Periyar was the one who popularized it. Even though his fight was against castiesm in India (a good cause), he used a lot of false theories to propagate his beliefs.
Periyar was not the progenitor of this idea. It existed long before him.
He was against brahmins specifically.
@@kannanrj6508 I corrected it, thank you!
The thing is there are a lot of politically motivated people in southern bharat try to tell tamil was the only language and is superior to sanskrit so much so that there was a separatist movement in history
Today tamil political parties try to creat hate against sanskrit and hindi in perticular because two biggest national level political parties come from hindi belt states namely BJP and INC hence use hindi to communicate
That's not true either.. There are references in Ramayana and Mahabharata. 2 Languages existed one for Yagna which existed as sounds and that's Sanskrit and other Madhura Basha (Tamizh) Spoken by all as a mode of communication
.. Even by Dasharatha and Rama...that's why even Chozhas call themselves they are from Ishwagu Ancestry which is Rama's Ancestry
When you hesitate to learn our language then why should we learn yours, we don't need hindi
@@prakashnagraj2449 you just proved my point do you think everyone in north was born speaking hindi? They learned over the course of time via interaction and pop culture . Here we can go to any state(far north, east north east ,west) with its own different language (example up the language changes every 10 miles there like a west up person won't understand person from east up and so on) but we can expect that they can communicate in broken hindi even villagers while in southern there is a deliberate attempt to shut people from rest of country sometimes it is also seen in west bengal.
And before you start yapping about why hindi? It is simple because it is spoken by most people and unlike english it is easier for any bhartiya to learn that's the reason why even after teaching English from pre independence era most people still can't grasp it that easily 10% peakers) as for me I am ready to learn any language but if population is not criteria then simply there is no reason that specifically your prefered language be taught (be it any telugu,tamil,kannada, odiya, assamese etc) and not any other so there will be opposition from other language enthusiasts .
hope you understand
Have a good day/night namaste
@@Yamraj-u6i my point is clear we don't want to learn hindi to make you northies comfortable. If move to delhi I'll learn hindi if your people move to tamil nadu, they should learn tamil. We are not your slave. Vannakkam
@@prakashnagraj2449 Fair point I must say but does that mean we both are slaves of America,britain or maybe australia since we both are using their language?
Ne need to answer I am not going to reply
Just pointing out how much you have been brain washed and fyi I can surely say you wellcome to delhi without knowing a single word of hindi most of us didn't we either learned with interaction or by being second gen(born here) . When we go back to homes we speak our native tongue I have punjabi,haryanvi,bihari bangali friends and we get along pretty well
You should watch India in Pixels Telugu episode; it explains how Sanskrit molded Telugu, although it's a Dravidian language. Pretty interesting stuff.
you should definetely watch that north south divide video
I want to yes
More project shivoham 🙌
On your question of why he mentioned that Tamilians were bilingual. .. You need to look in to very basic if the language issue that brainwashing that current and past .. which is all same. Communist govt. Has done by dividing people based on even language. In a multilingual country.. .
If u seek more.. u may find better..
42:04 Ahahahahaha 😭😂
1:10 i see a potential job losses 😂
I've discovered this yesterday from Mark Rober's Smartest crow video. He got like 32 languages including Malayalam (btw Malayalam its not great it was difficult understanding, prolly dvlping.. but hindi, Japanese were gud)
I wonder how accurate it can be. It wot be nice if they would let you choose the voice like male female or even accent
@ReldrikGeo i bet those options would soon reach us. The pace of its progress is mind blowing especially after Chat gpt
13:16 humans would be smaller in 1000CE ??????
Yes the average height of humans has increased in the last 100 years
@@ReldrikGeo but its not 100 years old, its even more ancient
@@ReldrikGeo again he is shocked because according to our scriptures people used to be taller and every yug human height decrease and there life span too like in the end of kalyug people are going to dwarf and the maximum life span going to be 12 years.
Sanskrit has been butured in north india s much so that north indians understand urdu better than Sanskrit
Most hindi words are now derived from urdu or Persian rather than Sanskrit
If somebody uses classical hindi publically u will get mocked and called hindi medium boy/girl or dehati Bacha which means village boy
Since we have no Respect for our own mother tounge we don't respect other regional languages also😢😢
Torah is Hebrew religious book
Thank you
In this video, he said, 'Cholas love to refer to themselves as the generation of Vishnu.' That's a myth. Both Raja Raja Chola and Rajendra Chola built temples for Lord Shiva, not Vishnu. I think they read the copper scripts of kulothunga cholan. He is a Telugu king. In Netherlands they have both rajendra cholan and kulothunga cholans scripts. I am from Tamil Nadu, so please don't say such things in Tamil Nadu. Also, don't refer to us as Dravidians, because that is not our original identity. There is no Dravidian trace in South India; only Tamil traces are present in ancient India.The name Dravidian was mentioned by caldwell only.
They hailed from Suryavamsa, same as Sri Rama.
CE =common era
Thank you
I don't trust auto dub audio tracks since auto subbed itself is inaccurate
Very true, it feels like a tech too early to trust with factual information
They influenced each other. Tamils may have lived farther north in ancient times.
They did live in north. A whole bunch of central Dravidian languages such as kui are proof to that. And Brahui, a Dravidian language in Pakistan.
@@kannanrj6508they are very very late Dravidians not older meaning it went during early medieval period
Central Dravidian like gond( their genetic is not Dravidians but austro- asiatic) they have very admixture Language, They called their lord in their language as seikh which is common used for village head and diety ( ofcourse it's Persian - arabic influenced )
Brahui is multi mixed ( like Urdu ) it has Arabic , Persian ( Iranic) local indo Aryan and Dravidian influenced
Only 15 percent is Dravidians influenced
Brahui speaker Genetically indo European ( both Iranic and indo Aryan)
❤the first 4 plates using Sanskrit aryans😢
There is no Aryan race it is missionary anti-Hindu conspiracy. Arya is a title it means Noble human. Tamil kings called themselves Arya or Aryaputras. even by other locals.
It is highly impossible for the normal people to be bilingual in ancient tamil regions esp Tamil and Sanskrit. The possible reasons could be:
1. Sanskrit was never a language spoken in larger masses even in Northern part of india. (And thats why even today 95% of people in northern part of india do not speak the language in day to day life)
2. Sanskrit was treated as a sacred language, only a particular section of people learnt such as temple priests, Inscribers etc.,
3. Even in those already sanskrit learnt section of people, prob did not speak the language but just by hearted the slogams and recited
4. The common people who did not have to learn the slogams has no use of learning a language which they never use
5. Sanskrit started entering tamil region during pallava times around 600 CE. The later kings just followed the practice and has always remained only in temple practices. It had no role in day to day life.
6. Sanskrit was not so prevalent in tamil regions even after centuries, so you barely find Sanskrit inscriptions. It was always tamil (could be bcoz of above mentioned reasons)
7. Even in this video, the presentor us just presenting the inscriptions on temples and some official documents and not the actual literature part.
10. And another question, when British, Portuguese, danes, French, mughals came to india, india was already ruled by different kingdoms and was never under a single ruler.
9. In ancient Tamilagam, we did have multilinguals prob in the bazars to perform trade activities, however i still doubt if they spoke sanskrit?
As simple as that !!!
Lol Natya sastra and yoga sastra written in sanskrit were found in tamil nadu temples lol😅😅😅😅😅😅
@prakashsivan1234 I doubt the siddhars ( yoga) and the temple dancers who practiced their art forms can actually read, write or speak Sanskrit in its full form to understand the dance treaties such as natya sashtra during ancient Tamil lands. I strongly believe that natya sashtra was written based on the already existing art form and not the other way around. Also the other thing must be taken into account that the current art form was connected to natya sashtra in order to bring classical status to the local arts. During this many existing structures were removed and probably some new things were added in order to fit into the norm. These all happened only the last 100 years, if not later
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Whatever you said must on base on facts and documented evidence, Natya sastra and Yoga sastra are found in tamil nadu. There are many dance develop by human and free flow of dance are being practiced by each community. North east India dance such as Pung Cholom for Manipur, Loho from Meghalaya. There is no evidence of Dasai Attam are performed similar like Bratha natyam
Omg dancers no need to read and write Sanskrit, there will a guru who teach them base on the Natya sastra which written in sanskirt. The guru will master the Sanskrit language. Sa, re, ga, ma originated from Sama Veda. Then why the music mentor in south are using this swara’s written in Sanskrit. Sa (षड्ज):
- Origin: Derived from the Sanskrit word "षड्ज" (Shadja), meaning "the sixth" or "the note that is the foundation."
- Meaning: Represents the tonic note or the first note in the scale.
South Indian Brahmins can recited the Sanskrit better than North Indian Brahmin.
@prakashsivan1234 Yes, True South Indians pronounce and recite slogans better. However as a south Indian myself and having learnt carnatic music, I can tell you that. Sanskrit was not as prominent as we expect in the south. It was not because of dravidian movement or British colonization. Sanskrit has been present in temple worship from approx. 700 CE. However was not a norm until 14/ 15 th CE. Even during king coronation it was a practice of reciting only Tamil hymns. A great example is Thailand still recites Tamil hymns during their kings coronation. Tamils dominated SEA until 14th CE, so the practice was exported to their reigning parts. Again I am not saying that we hated Sanskrit. However we had no use of using Sanskrit at least in Tamil speaking regions. The sanskritised vocabulary became prominent in carnatic music because there are songs of Telugu, kannada and malayalam which had Sanskrit words in them. So Tamils just sang. Even now Tamil carnatic vocalists are sometimes criticized for not pronouncing the words right or cutting a word in the middle to fit the ragam. It's all because we still don't understand the language completely as we don't use them as often. Since we have our history inscribed on tanjavur temple, we know exactly how sadir, chinna melam, periya melam became bharatanatyam. Also for your info, we actually don't know the author of natya shastra, that's why he was randomly named bharata. According to our records the name bharatanatyam was coined by rukmini devi Arun Dale in order to remove the stigma attached to the dance form till then and to encourage women to learn the art form.
Sanskrit is the Oldest language...
Sanskrit is more than 40000 yrs old..
Tamil is around 7000-8000 yrs old....
Some Tamilians try to prove tamil is older but its totally untrue..
Ok how do you prove sanskrit is 40000 years old? Trust me bro?
@thedishwasherakawomen8878
Tamilian spotted 🤣😂..
Go & chk Nilesh oaks videos..
He has found clear astronomical description in Vedas, ramayan, Mahabharata,surya siddhant and various texts which obviously r in sanskrit..
Rigveda text gives various astronomical reference which takes back to 25000 yrs ago..
Surya siddhant text takes back to 38000-39000 yr mark..
& All these texts r in sanskrit not in tamil..
So stop claiming tamil as oldest..
U shd go & watch Nilesh oaks videos
@@thedishwasherakawomen8878good job 👍
Well based on the archeological excavations in Tamilnadu so far, we are sure of continuous human presence in present day Tamil nadu as early as 3500 BC- 4000 BC, without any doubt.
@@thedishwasherakawomen8878
Chk Nilesh oaks videos about ramayana, Mahabharata & especially surya siddhanta....
U will get to know why I'm saying this
what happened to your video selection process by a random number
I had a lot of people dislike the way I was doing it, lots of push back. So I'm going to retool it. Maybe make a google doc with all the videos and have a better way to randomly select
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Is this the news channel?
@@ReldrikGeo news channel but makes acurate documentaries
THE SANSKRIT WAS WRITTEN IN GRANTA.
(Granta is a Tamil script used to write Sanskrit).
its anglo cia project
Sanskrit words are even found in Sangam texts
Sangam texts are the oldest in Tamil
No he says it better
You think you are saying exactly like him but you are not
please mention me in your video
What should I mention about you
My name@@ReldrikGeo
You should watch his patanjali yoga video it is good
Thamizh (Tamil) is the Oldest living language under the sun and Sanskrit DOESN'T have any own letters and only started 2AD by borrowing other language letters.
Tamil CULVERTS and Tamil inscriptions on Palmyra leaves.
But the Brahmins who used the Copper Plates to writ theirs NOT Cholas.
Tamil is NOTHING to do with the Sanskrit at all.
In your DMK theory.
Yes close eyes and say it's dark - the present State of tumils.(தமிழ்) My lovable language but spoiled by politics..it has very poor letters, written and spoken different. Sanskrit not interrupted by foreigners forces and nastic who abuse our tradition for benefits from foreign hand.
We proud Brahmin community good in tamil as equal as sanskrit. Majority of tumils spend energy in abusing us and there by leaving tumil' in pathetic condition. LoL
Here the biggot comes
A neards comment ⭕
Bro avoid Praveen mohan and all Pseudo Science bs
please mention my name in your video
Your pronunciation of Tamil us so bad but no wonder that's what you will do when you take Indian in pixels seriously
Its not bilingual society when no one speaks it. Sanskrit was a laguage for writing not speaking. Common people spoke tamil. Sanskrit was invented by the buddhist to write religious stuff, later Brahman learnt it and used it for writing the dirty material in Brahmanical texts.
First part is correct, about used for religious purpose. Buddhists used Pali, a form of Prakrit.
@@kannanrj6508 No that is not true, Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit. A middle language between CLassical Snaskrit of the vedas and Prakrit exists, its called BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) in Gupta script. they are exactly in the middle of linguistic and script evolution. the language evolved prakrit but the script evolved from Dhamma/Brahmi script. Which is why all old Sanskrit inscription use Buddhist Sanskrit in Asokan Brahmi script or Gupta Brahmi script. Classical Sanskrit that Brahmins use to write Vedas simply cannot be written before 13th century. when Sharda/Nagri script became available. Sanskrit has nothing to do with Brahmins or the vedas they used the language only after 13th century. There is a reason why Brahmins never build any schools or universities because they never studied before 13th century,. There is a reason why the oldest Brahminical document of any kind is from 15th century. A single page of Rigaveda in classical sanskrit. Meanwhile Buddhist inscriptions are the oldest in India even the Buddhist Sanskrit inscriptions are from are from 1st century such as Rudradaman rock inscription in Junagarh. Not a single parallel evidence of Brahman or their Veda or whatever has ever been found.
@@kannanrj6508 Not true, Sanskrit evolved from Prakrit. we have a series of evidence, we have BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit), We also have sanskrit written by buiddhist in modified asokan brahmi, i.e Rudradaman inscription, which is talking about how rudradaman made the lake made by Samrat asoka even bigger and more beautiful. We have tons of inscription of Buddhist Sanskrit in Gupta script. But we have no evidence of brahmanical stuff before 14th century. Not we have any inscription in India older than Buddhist rock inscriptions. If Brahmins ever existed before 14th century their kings would have written something. Entire Brahminism is stolen and build on the ashes on Buddhism.
Bulshit!
That's all it was!
First, Grandha script is NOT the predecessor of the current Tamil Script!
Neither it's to Devanagari.
Second, bilingualism is a modern thing. As a Tamil and read a lot of old Tamil literature and read, write Sanskrit, I cam assert that Tamil country was not bilingual.
Third, this so called 'British propaganda' is a propaganda by the hindhuthva gang.
I recommend the series 'Tamizhi' mapping the evolution of Tamil script and its connection to Indus script.
ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf
Cholas NEVER ever thought that they were descendents of so called Vishnu at all but The Cholas Empire BUILT all their Temples for Tamil God Siva & Murugan but the Tamil Pallav Kings built Vishnu Temples and actually Tamil Word VINNAKARAM was changed as so called Vishnu by Brahmins.
Tamil Pandiya Kingdom ruled more than 2000 years and they R the loungers rulers in the entire world.
Tamil Chera king also ruled so long.
Chola Empire also long one, they ruled Tamilnadu before 2000 years and lost their rule to Tamil Pallav Kings.
After Pallava Kings were defeated by Chola Empire, they became rulers again and Pandiya Kingdom also was there
Chola Empire ruled part of south Asia and South east Asia.
The Copper Plates have Tamil ONLY and used Tamils' invented Kirantham letters to write .
Y the HELL, Tamils need another language Sanskrit with NO OWN letters, while Tamil can FUNCTION perfectly without the Sanskrit???
All 63 Nayanmar ( Devotional Poets)
12 Azhvars ( Devotional Poets) sang in Tamil only NOT IN the alien Sanskrit.
Then Y the HELL Tamils need the Useless Sanskrit????
⚠️⚠️⚠️ Cholas have their stone encryption and one would take caution about these copper plates! And cholas never issued official copper plates.
What the bullshit are u speaking dude🤦