@@LadyhawksLairDotCom I literally JUST read that part of the book and came here to post the same thing lmao. It was the director's idea to keel over sideways.
he's smart, he's trying to get westley to react and get information based on that and besides westley at this point had climbed up a rope he knew was going to be cut fought an impossible to beat swordsman and beaten a giant it was obvious he was very confident
@@VeriStrawberi Indeed, but as long as he had a knife to Buttercup's throat, he held all the cards. The moment he agreed to Wesley's game and lowered the blade, it was already over. He gave up his only advantage because he believed he could win in a battle of wits, never considering the idea that the game was rigged.
Someone mentioned this before me and I'll just go for a repeat: "You've beaten my giant which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet trusting in your strength to save you." DAMN HE WAS REALLY CLOSE.
"But you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied and in doing so you must have learned that man is mortal" He unintentionally figured it out, Westley could have studied enough to figure out a way for his strength to save him by building an immunity to the poison. And Westley was panicking, you could actually see it once the music starts going, so he had to say something to throw him off. "If your opponent is making a mistake, don't correct them"
He had figured out where the poison was, he just didn't realize it. He figured out that it was in both but, being blinded by pride, believed that he was the only one using underhanded tactics and so believed that he could chest his way out of a game he lost from the moment he agreed.
I just noticed something. When he mentions how he could’ve put the poison in his own glass and hope on his strength to save him, Wesley stops smiling and tenses up. Viz was actually right when he said that. He just didn’t take it far enough. And for just a second, Wesley did think he was beat. But once he continues talking. Wesleys smile returns as he realizes he has no idea.
At least he didn't get suckered into drinking from the gold cup covered in emeralds, that naughty little Fraulein choose that cup to kill that guy so she could take off with Indy......
@@Martin_Gregory you know....I watch this when I was a kid and like as soon as he drank it I was confused and paused it and then did not watch the rest of it thinking it was the same as when I watch it years ago. My bad I have returned to monke brain
I always admired Wesley's foresight to think to build up an immunity over time to iocaine just in case he comes across a sicilian one day that challenges him to a battle of wits to the death.
More like, he was surrounded by a bunch of no-good, treacherous, murdering pirates, and he figured that they would probably try to poison him sooner or later.
I just realized what Westley meant from “you’re trying to trick me into revealing something” By Vizzini talking back and forth about the cups he was trying to get Westley to look at the cup he poisoned. Revealing the truth with his eyes. Even though he poisoned both,Westley never looked at the cups but at Vizzini the whole time.
According to Cary Elwes, Wally Shaw was a complete wreck during this scene. It was actually the very first part of the film he worked on, and he was distraught over having to do such a verbose monologue as his very first shot. He also was very self conscious and was convinced he was going to be fired and replaced at any moment.
Yeah I heard that too...someone even told me that you could see him sweating in one scene and that was because he was nervous he was gonna be fired and replaced because he heard a rumour he was their second choice for the role and that they would get the other actor for the part and he would be replaced...so it was real sweat not meant to be in the movie lol...he did great im this role though it's a shame his character died so soon!
Napalm I'll agree with you; the writing is absolutely superb. THAT BEING SAID, the actors gave the written word heart, and I think that it was the perfection of their casting that greatly added to the overall effect of this film.
I really like Westley clearly being smart enough not to fall for "WHAT IN THE WORLD COULD THAT BE?" But humoring him anyways. He's comfortable turning his back knowing it doesn't really matter what Vizzini does.
It’s to allow him to make the switch. He is two moves ahead. Vizzini will do what he does - switch, wait to see if Westley drinks Fromm the cup in front of him, and then figure that means Westley put the poison in the cup that was at the time closer to Vizzini, which is now in Westley’s hand; which to Vizzini means the cup he actually ends up with must be safe.
It is amusing because technically Vezzini was correct. Either choice would kill him. He should have followed his instinct. You can even see that Westley is getting nervous, like he might have been figured out.
He was mainly nervous because their first pick for Vizzini was Danny Devito but I dunno if he was either busy or they didn’t even offer it to him. But Wallace Shawn was so nervous he was gonna be replaced. Now Dany Devito I could see pulling this off but I think Wallace Shawn helped make Vizzini’s time memorable.
There’s actually a lot of depth to this scene, and I really like that. For one thing, when Vizzini starts talking about Westley relying on his strength to save him, you can see Westley start to get flustered, because Vizzini’s really close to the truth, not to mention the guy’s next words are “you’re trying to get me to give something away.” Furthermore, Vizzini doesn’t drink from his goblet until Westley drinks from his, figuring that if Westley is willing to drink from his goblet, he must’ve chosen correctly when he switched the cups. This is genuinely a really intriguing scene even if you remove the twist at the end.
Vizzini couldn't see the forest for the trees. He was a genuinely very intelligent person who had every piece of the puzzle, but he formulated his own plan to trick Westley and failed to imagine Westley outsmarting him
They foreshadow it in the book too. When Vizzini begins his vacillating about how he both can't choose his own goblet and can't choose Westley's, the narration says "The man in black was starting to get nervous." Then when Vizzini says "You could have put it in your cup, trusting on your strength to save you", it says "The man in black was very nervous now."
Actually no from the perspective of a competitive mafia player that was a solid case. Every info he gave could be used to reinforce a case or build it entirely
@@ZhaoYun320 “Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me” 😏
Vizzini was actually quite smart with how he was constantly trying to trick Wesley into revealing secrets, before finally switching cups, and only drinking after Wesley had. His only flaw was that he did not realize that Wesley was playing a different game than he was.
His downfall was assuming that the rules were that the poison had to be in one goblet or the other. The game was to determine where the poison was, and to then take a drink. The vagueness opens up different opportunities from both sides. Wesley could've not poisoned either goblet and hoped for Vizzini to panic and give up. Vizzini could've chosen to drink directly from the bottle, as Wesley did not specify from where he had to drink. So by assuming that certain rules were set into place that weren't there, he fell for a trap. For a self-proclaimed genius, Vizzini wasn't much of an "out of the box" thinker.
Intellectual arrogance. He was so sure he understood the rules of the game, he didn't need to think it through any further. Besides, he always intended to win by cheating; switching glasses and watching if the man in black drunk first. So the entire monologue was his attempt to get the man in black off balance and twitchy so that he'd react when he did the 'What's that over there.' stunt.
@@adams1030 Takes a heroic pose as his cape waves in a convenient breeze. 'You are welcome citizen! Now I must away!' Runs off with his arms out making wooshing noises.
Vizzinis childlike move is actually pretty genius in one way. If Wesley drank from his cup, Vizzini would know the cup he's holding is not the poison. If Wesley reluctantly drank from his cup, or tried not to, Vizzini would know the cup he's holding is the poison. So in one way, he had both ways covered to know if he was drinking the poison or not. He did not expect however that Wesley would drop the poison in both cups.
Well yes, assuming that Wesley didn't know he switched cups. But i think it's pretty obvious he knew exactly why Vizzini "saw" something remarkable over his shoulder at exactly that moment.
Westley DID give up the most perfect clue: Westley drank first, so he knew the poison wasn't in his glass. It's a VERY SMART move. In his mind, Westley wouldn't have drank first if he knew the poison was in his goblet. The rest was just waiting for opportunity.
Why the fuck would you drink a glass of poison if you know it's in front of you? -- Thoughts in his head. He waits. Westley drinks first. - Smart. (Now we can argue, why would you agree to this, and him handling the poison, but hey, he'll totally murder you anyway if you hurt that girl)
2:38 oh my god i just realized that Vizzini was waiting to see if wesley drank first because if he did, that would tell Vizzini that wesley thought that his own cup was safe, and that’s why Vizzini had thought he’d won! Because he switched the glasses! Damn that makes a lot more sense. I thought he was just crazy.
@@axelrivera3382 Now don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with a bit of common decency. But I've always found it funny how really devout people think this is such a big no-no, because it kinda implies that their god is a vengeful and petty one :) If your god truly is a forgiving power of good and benevolence then I think it would let something like that slide and understand that to err is human. So if this is out of genuine fear of "not getting in heaven" and/or "angering god" that says a lot about ones twisted and frankly downright disturbing view on spirituality :)
The way Westly said "You guessed wrong" and the look he had when he said it has the most subtle darkness to it that actually makes it terrifying, like there is so much power and gravity behind it.
Through the movie we are so blinded by Westley's charm and love for Buttercup it's easy to forget he is still a killer and very competend pirate. That line is kind of a gentle reminder to how ruthless he can be
“So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.” “So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.” Yup. You were right. Couldn’t choose either.
Correct. Westley said to Viz that the challenge ends when Viz chooses, and both men drink. If Viz had just chosen to drink from the bottle, he'd have won even though Westley didn't die due to his immunity.
I saw this as part of a group lesson in High School. A part of a Drama or English class. Junior year. The SECOND Vizzini keeled over, someone in the class said "dumbass..." The whole class ERUPTED into laughter. The timing was excellent.
I just realized Wesley gulps when Vizzini says "You're exceptionally strong, so you could have put the poison in your own goblet trusting on your strength to save you." Very nice details you catch in these exchanges throughout the film!
They both tried to win by altering the game without the other's knowledge. The battle of wits was not the picking of the right cup it was the battle of who had the best method to win despite what cup the poison was in.
Nope he thought he was a genius and never considered an immunity, one of the ways humans have evolved forever. He left out a classic trait for humans in his determinations. He was foolish and arrogant and that's why he's dead. Alternatively Westley could have stabbed him in the throat while he was rambling on and on but ya this is better.
Interestingly, there was absolutely a way for Vizzini to win. And the way Wesley phrased his challenge even suggested as much. He said "Where is the poison?" Not "Which cup has the poison?" The game ends when you choose and we both drink. He never said Vizzini had to choose a cup, the bottle was sitting right there on the table, he could have chosen to drink safely from that, were he actually as clever as he thought he was.
I actually totally agree he tried to give him an out. In the previous fights Inigo and the giant fought on fair ground, handicapping their strength in some way (using his non dominant hand or going hands on respectively) which is why even when beaten he chose to spare them both. But here he cheated by switching the glasses when his back was turned. He tried to be tricky and it cost him his life
There's actually a running theory that Wesley lied to the princess and that this is somewhat the truth! I've seen logic as far as 'wine had a non lethal activater that reacts with the poison and Wesley never smelt the poison, just pretended'
Wallace Shawn...such a great and underrated actor!! He always falls perfectly into place when it comes to his roles, like a square peg to a square hole.
At 1:40 - 1:49 Wesley nervously gulps and his confident smirk briefly goes away, when Vizzini gets dangerously close to figuring out the result of this battle of wits. These little touches are what makes this movie gold.
He didn’t figure it out at all. It’s actually surprising how stupid he was here. One of the first things he should’ve thought of was the possibility that perhaps both goblets were poisoned. His over analysis of everything is highly convoluted and makes very little sense, relying on far too much guesswork on Vizzini’s part, much of it coming from nowhere. Vizzini’s reasoning is quite narrow, as he doesn’t see any other possibilities other than one goblet or the other being poisoned. The way Wesley words the question leaves numerous solutions Vizzini clearly didn’t think of. Wesley asks where the poison is, not which goblet it is in. He could’ve put it in one, both, even neither, and as an alternative, Vizzini could’ve drank from the bottle the wine was poured in as a truly clever method of outsmarting Wesley. He is not nearly as bright as he thinks he is and the only reason he might have been considered smart was because the other two men working with him weren’t exactly the brightest bulbs.
@@a_fine_edition2746 on the contrary, the man DID figure it out. Wesley was actually starting to panic once Vizzini said "you'll rely on your strength to save you" and Wesley also said that Wesley has clearly "studied". Wesley was panicking, look at this hand the whole time as well. Because if your opponent is doing someone wrong, you DON'T correct him. Wesley was bluffing and tried to throw Vizzini off. Sadly for Vizzini he DID fall for it, as he didn't pursue nor ponder those two ideas into thinking of the possibility that Wesley studied the poison and learned that he could develop an immunity, which relied on the strength to do so. TL;DR Vizzini did infact come close to figuring it out but he was thrown off by Wesley
I feel Westley fell for that "Look behind you" trick on purpose. He wanted to appear like Vizzini outsmarted him, when in fact, he didn't. Vizzini basically gave it away when he said, "Me from my glass, and you from yours." That may be why both goblets were poisoned. Westley outsmarted him.
I don't know about that, he might have wondered if he really does see something. Obviously he didn't have to worry about him switching cups so he could afford to look back.
It's ever so good how Wesley's response to Vizzini pointing out, correctly, that according to logic he cannot drink from either goblet, is to say "you're trying to get me to give something away". It's not a huge moment but it's a lovely little nod to the fact that he is, for the first and perhaps only time in this entire scene, extremely close to the truth of the situation.
I use a variation of vizzini's speech when someone falls victim to the 4 turn checkmate in chess. "You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. the most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this: never go in with a Sicilian (a chess opening) when chess is on the line"
@@willh1655 no one ever falls for that one. Everyone knows about it. it's the first thing you learn in chess. Don't move in this very specific way or you lose.
It's actually not too hard to build up an immunity to poisons. You start with a very low dose. Then when you're no longer affected by that dose, you increase the dosage. Eventually, what was once a lethal dose of poison will be only as deadly as a tablespoon of sugar to an average person.
I like to think that she was being silent because she was trying to figure out the battle of wits in her head while Vizzini was laying it all out,she was basically a spectator.
He would have been right if he stopped after saying he couldn't choose the cup in front of Westley and he also couldn't choose the cup in front of him. Oh well! Brilliant scene.
@@Scyllax That is not one of the rules that is just a mind game to trick Vizzini. The battle had already started. When have you ever seen rules given after a game has started?
Or rather, presuming that he understood the test correctly. The test was "where is the poison?", not, "One of these glasses is poisoned; pick one, and I will drink the other". For Vizzini, the truly correct answer would've been to drink from the bottle, leaving Wesley to drink from both cups.
One of the most sneakily hilarious quips in the movie (which is saying something): “But you’ve also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal”
Well, technically he did know where the poison was. It was in the cup he didn’t choose. That didn’t save him. But man, was he close when he deduced that Wesley was relying on his strength to save him.
The genius of this scene is that Wesley both outwitted and didn't outwit him. Wesley knew he couldn't outwit him if it was a battle of the minds straight up, so he turned a battle of wits into a battle of strength... which in and of itself is outwitting your opponent
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f so would you say he spent years training his body to resist poison? Last time I checked training was a feat of strength. Bro resistance is still a form of strength. Hell working out is just damaging your body with movement of weights and then letting your body heal to wit it can RESIST more weight for a longer period of time.
Michael Fawcett If he was such a genius, how could he not have known that one could develop a tolerance for iocane? I don't imagine there are many poisons one can develop an immunity to.
@@derossetmyers47 It's the same method as building tolerance to something like peanuts. A little bit each day, upping dosage, until your body is immune.
I mean, the man who tried to build up an immunity to Black Widow venom IS dead, but that’s because he did it the greater part of a century ago and time removes all things. He was unsuccessful not because it’s impossible but because he chickened out after the horrific and excruciating pain the first bite caused.
@@Averyofthemain But extensive medical knowledge also brings forth ideas of treating injuries and poisons, or even building biological tolerance, as shown here with the poison immunity. To point, Vizzini's fatal flaw was that he was not learned enough to know that a living body is incredibly adaptable, and thus ultimately capable of eventually adapting to build a high tolerance and nigh-immunity to various ill effects, such as sickness, disease, or poison. Or maybe he did learn of it, but simply did not consider it due to believing that his opponent would be stringently honorable, fair, and straightforward in the battle of wits.
@@khajiitimanus7432 It’s called mithridatism. You can develop immunity to certain types of poisons through an antibody response. It’s like a cup spiked with COVID spike proteins.
I feel like Vizzini was too determined to show off his mental abilities to really think for a moment. The fact that he gave a huge speech is evident of this. Smart people are keenly aware of how little they know and so will often remain quiet in the face of a problem. 1 to allow themselves to think and 2 to not give away their lack of knowledge on the matter But he was too bold in his abilities. He blathered on, blissfully unaware of his lack of knowledge on the matter of poison.
He actually logically assessed the problem at first when he anylzed that he beat the giant meaning he has good endurance. Then he over thought the situation out of pride and confidence.
I think he actually said all of that stuff not just to be pride of his knowledge but mainly to see Westley's reactions (like watching which cup, see any tense behaviour, etc)
If Vizzini had followed his train of thought into its most simple conclusion he would have realized what he was saying. That neither of the cups were safe to drink from and that too much risk was stacked against him. The correct winning move would have been to call off the game completely. The chips were in his hands, he threw away his means of victory the moment he agreed to the wager
Poison that came from Australia, "Australia is full of criminals," so that means this movie was set in the around late 1700s to early 1800s. If that's the case, then why are they all dressed like they're in some twilight zone between the renaissance and middle ages?
That was actually from the first Sherlock Holmes book: _A Study in Scarlet,_ though Sherlock himself was never confronted with the two pills in the novel, so that aspect of it could've been taken from this.
Wallace Shawn is yet another living proof (in a lineage that reaches back thousands of years, all the way to Aristophanes) that comedy in all of its variants -- high and low, verbal and physical, written and performed -- absolutely REQUIRES intelligence in its creator(s). You can't possibly master the infinite subtleties and involutions of pratfalls, inflections, sidelong looks of the eyes, and all the rest of comic devices, if you haven't got a mind that is as swift as a gazelle, and as nimble as the fingers of a concert pianist. What a joy it is to watch such people at their best!
Not only that, but you can see Westley tense up. His smile fades, he figets with his hand, and swallows nervously. He is almost found out. It's a great, subtle bit of acting.
Vizzini even got it right when he guessed Wesley poisoned his own cup and planned to tank the poison. But Vizzini was so nervous he distracted himself with further speculation.
It's so much fun listening to Vizzini evaluate the situation even though it's obvious he didn't really know where the poison was and had to resort to the classic "Hey, what's that?" trick.
The funny thing is that there is a safe choice: the bottle, but Wesley successfully fooled him into thinking the battle was that only one cup was poisoned.
The moral of this scene: How do you outwit someone smarter than you? Simple: You show them what they expect to see. This scene illustrates the fatal weakness of narcissism and how the protagonist exploited that weakness. Smart though his opponent was, the problem with narcissists is they tend to take what people say at face value because they consider it impossible that they could ever be fooled. He lost because he took the challenge at face value. Had he considered the challenge wasn't what it appeared to be, he could have called the protagonist out and won.
Another layer to this whole scene is that, once Westley sat down, vizzini was already dead. At that distance, Westley could have drawn his blade and killed vizzini before he could draw his knife. Or, he could have just jumped over the rock and tackled vizzini before he could react. No matter what vizzini did, the outcome was already decided.
The moral of this comment: use a dictionary so you don’t misuse words like “narcissism” and pay attention in school so you don’t conflate pseudo-intellects like Vizzini for “smart”. Foolish comment OP, sorry.
@@terradraca first of all it irritates me that so many people take what clearly represents/symbolizes pseudo-intellectualism as “smart”. It’s a sad comment on our culture that consumes comedy/entertainment(daily show , Fox News) for politics and listens to fools like Jordan Peterson as “intellectuals”. Before the drinking stand off, Westley grinned while saying “really” when Vizzini called Aristotle and Socrates m0r0ns. He knew that he wasn’t truly a smart person therefore he could fool him. What truly triggers me is mental illness stigma. People keep using mental illness as synonyms for character defect. Most mentally ill people on average have better character in my experience than those without. As the Bible relates, it’s the tree of knowledge and temptation that leads to evil. Not incompetent sick people. Vizzini and the hundreds of other people you diagnosis as narcissists, are not narcissists. I’ve read Freuds entire essay on narcissism, he coined the term. It is a personality disorder. Narcissists are rarely ever successful or powerful, they have fundamentally dysfunctional personalities that makes it difficult to form relationships or communicate. Vanity, conceit, solipsism , are better words. But your idea of narcissism sounds like it was lifted from buzzfeed. Just pure psychobabble . You’ve never read a treatise on narcissism.
Jay B they do know this. . . . . It's why the US don't get involved in a land war in Asia such as Vietnam, China or Russia. I mean just imagine trying to attack China through Mongolia
Vizzini fell victim to one of the classic blunders: never let the challenger provide his own means of death.
+GibbonOfHealth
If you get into a challenge on their terms, it will be unwinnable.
***** I know. Clearly Vizzini was more overconfident than intelligent.
+Zijyfe Duufop (sysdaemon) now that I think of it I think they might have gotten the inspiration from this scene
It's as true in this movie as in life. Nothing scarier than a motivated idiot.
INCONCEIVABLE!!!
I always get a kick out of how he just drops over dead. No seizure, no gagging or chocking, nothing. He just falls over dead. Love that bit.
Was the crazed agitation, flushed anxiety, and hysteric laughter "normal" for him - or were they onset symptoms of the lethal poison?
@@pwnmeisterage Nah! That's normal for him
I believe Rob Reiner came up with that idea, but I'm not sure. I just read _As You Wish_ and there was a lot of behind-the-scenes information.
@@LadyhawksLairDotCom I literally JUST read that part of the book and came here to post the same thing lmao. It was the director's idea to keel over sideways.
Me seeing that for the first time: "what was that!?"
Wesley: death
Me: what kind
Wesley: instant
i love how Vizzini actually SOLVES the riddle, that both are poisoned, and doesn't even realize it
Unless inhaling the powder is also deadly. That's why he told him to smell it before they started
@@killking72 Humperdinck inhaled the powder too though and he was fine. So i think it puts that theory to rest.
@@ethankleinman1067 unless all the poison was used up
Not just once, but 3 times he solves it, each time coming to the correct conclusion that he can drink from *neither* cup lol
@@ethankleinman1067 part of the joke, lots of subtle humor in this movie.
He wasn't as smart as he thought he was. He failed to realize that a clever man *would never stake his life on a game he had any chance of losing.*
He simply did not think Wesley was as clever as he actually was
he's smart, he's trying to get westley to react and get information based on that and besides westley at this point had climbed up a rope he knew was going to be cut fought an impossible to beat swordsman and beaten a giant it was obvious he was very confident
It's not in this scene, but he had no choice... Wesley could have killed him with a sword easily.
@@VeriStrawberi Indeed, but as long as he had a knife to Buttercup's throat, he held all the cards. The moment he agreed to Wesley's game and lowered the blade, it was already over. He gave up his only advantage because he believed he could win in a battle of wits, never considering the idea that the game was rigged.
The answer was inconceivable!
Someone mentioned this before me and I'll just go for a repeat:
"You've beaten my giant which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet trusting in your strength to save you."
DAMN HE WAS REALLY CLOSE.
"But you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied and in doing so you must have learned that man is mortal"
He unintentionally figured it out, Westley could have studied enough to figure out a way for his strength to save him by building an immunity to the poison. And Westley was panicking, you could actually see it once the music starts going, so he had to say something to throw him off.
"If your opponent is making a mistake, don't correct them"
@@xrstevenson "A ninja never reveals his secrets."
He had figured out where the poison was, he just didn't realize it. He figured out that it was in both but, being blinded by pride, believed that he was the only one using underhanded tactics and so believed that he could chest his way out of a game he lost from the moment he agreed.
He was right, Wesley revealed that he spent years developing a tolerance to the powder
He had all the pieces of the puzzle, but he put them together wrong.
I just noticed something.
When he mentions how he could’ve put the poison in his own glass and hope on his strength to save him, Wesley stops smiling and tenses up.
Viz was actually right when he said that. He just didn’t take it far enough. And for just a second, Wesley did think he was beat.
But once he continues talking. Wesleys smile returns as he realizes he has no idea.
Good catch.! Wesley swallows at that moment, betraying his sudden worry.
Why would he be concerned if both were deadly to Vizzini and both were fine for him?
@@gorg6151 if vizzini figures out the game is rigged, he obviously wouldn't play along. and maybe he'd suddenly put a knife to the princess's throat
Wesley first looks nervous when Viz started going on about how he couldn't pick either cup.
@@gorg6151 if Viz guessed that he poisoned both cups, he would have won the battle of wits.
He chose......poorly.
Inconceivable
Indiana Jones? isn't it? :)
He also chose ...smartly. Westly Drank FIRST. SMART MOVE.
At least he didn't get suckered into drinking from the gold cup covered in emeralds, that naughty little Fraulein choose that cup to kill that guy so she could take off with Indy......
Wow That’s incredible hahaha
All Wesley said was “Where is the poison?”, he never said “I only poisoned one cup”.
TRUTH!
"Westley"
If he poisoned both cups so why didn't he die?
@@tessowens6757 Um, did you watch it, or is this a trick question? 3:34
@@Martin_Gregory you know....I watch this when I was a kid and like as soon as he drank it I was confused and paused it and then did not watch the rest of it thinking it was the same as when I watch it years ago. My bad I have returned to monke brain
I always admired Wesley's foresight to think to build up an immunity over time to iocaine just in case he comes across a sicilian one day that challenges him to a battle of wits to the death.
There are probably a few other situations he though of as well not just this situation where immunity to a poison would come in handy
@@rossspeight-burns7216 yeah, good point.
More like, he was surrounded by a bunch of no-good, treacherous, murdering pirates, and he figured that they would probably try to poison him sooner or later.
@@jculver1674 um, excellent point again.
As is tradition
I just realized what Westley meant from “you’re trying to trick me into revealing something” By Vizzini talking back and forth about the cups he was trying to get Westley to look at the cup he poisoned. Revealing the truth with his eyes. Even though he poisoned both,Westley never looked at the cups but at Vizzini the whole time.
truly you have a dazzling intellect
@@jesus-sz5qn dizzying
It's like poker. The more advanced you get, the more you study your opponent's face and reactions rather than the cards.
Vizzini was correct on where the poison was, even though he said a mouthful.
@@jesus-sz5qn wait till he gets going!
According to Cary Elwes, Wally Shaw was a complete wreck during this scene. It was actually the very first part of the film he worked on, and he was distraught over having to do such a verbose monologue as his very first shot. He also was very self conscious and was convinced he was going to be fired and replaced at any moment.
Yeah I heard that too...someone even told me that you could see him sweating in one scene and that was because he was nervous he was gonna be fired and replaced because he heard a rumour he was their second choice for the role and that they would get the other actor for the part and he would be replaced...so it was real sweat not meant to be in the movie lol...he did great im this role though it's a shame his character died so soon!
No one is a great actor in this, it's a great written film. Have fun storming the castle!
hahahahahhaahahaahahaa i watched The Wizard right before this literally on the same night
Napalm I'll agree with you; the writing is absolutely superb. THAT BEING SAID, the actors gave the written word heart, and I think that it was the perfection of their casting that greatly added to the overall effect of this film.
Fair enough.
I really like Westley clearly being smart enough not to fall for "WHAT IN THE WORLD COULD THAT BE?" But humoring him anyways. He's comfortable turning his back knowing it doesn't really matter what Vizzini does.
@SlukkeThough Westley is immune to the iocane powder and his cup already has poison in it as well
Wesley more than likely knew that Vizzini was going to switch the glasses with that ‘trick’
@@BlueBird180but Vizzini doesn't know that
It’s to allow him to make the switch. He is two moves ahead. Vizzini will do what he does - switch, wait to see if Westley drinks Fromm the cup in front of him, and then figure that means Westley put the poison in the cup that was at the time closer to Vizzini, which is now in Westley’s hand; which to Vizzini means the cup he actually ends up with must be safe.
Vizzini: *immediately chugs iocane powder to build up instant immunity*
It is amusing because technically Vezzini was correct. Either choice would kill him. He should have followed his instinct. You can even see that Westley is getting nervous, like he might have been figured out.
If he had followed his thought about Wesley trusting his physical strength to save him...alas, it was inconceivable to him
Pretty sure he was dead when he snorted the powder at the beginning,
Mister Warsaw ahhh I never thought of that!! That is a strong possibility.
I can't remember what i posted, they must've deleted my comment 😕😞😟
Some Polish Guy -
If that's the case, Humperdinck would've died too. He sniffed the iocane as well
Truly you have a dizzying Intellect
Wait till I get going!
He actually does. Wally Shaw studied at Harvard and has degrees in economics and history.
This blew my mind the first time I seen it. Circa early 90's.
Mandela effect. Her dress used to be BLUE. Thank you Cern for merging the dimensions. Thank you very much.
Robert Flinch average rick and morty fan
I can't believe Wallace Shawn was so nervous and self conscience he thought he was going to ruin this movie. He was an absolute pleasure to watch!
It was “inconceivable”
He always is a pleasure to see. I love him in star trek as the grand nagus.
He was mainly nervous because their first pick for Vizzini was Danny Devito but I dunno if he was either busy or they didn’t even offer it to him. But Wallace Shawn was so nervous he was gonna be replaced.
Now Dany Devito I could see pulling this off but I think Wallace Shawn helped make Vizzini’s time memorable.
He is a more thrilling villain than Prince Humperdinck though he isn’t nearly as cool as Count Rugen.
I come back to this lovely movie time and time again just for him! 😂😂
There’s actually a lot of depth to this scene, and I really like that.
For one thing, when Vizzini starts talking about Westley relying on his strength to save him, you can see Westley start to get flustered, because Vizzini’s really close to the truth, not to mention the guy’s next words are “you’re trying to get me to give something away.”
Furthermore, Vizzini doesn’t drink from his goblet until Westley drinks from his, figuring that if Westley is willing to drink from his goblet, he must’ve chosen correctly when he switched the cups.
This is genuinely a really intriguing scene even if you remove the twist at the end.
Completely agreed. He gets a lot of crap, but for what he was given he honestly did everything right
It was a battle of wits after all, not a simple guessing game
Vizzini couldn't see the forest for the trees. He was a genuinely very intelligent person who had every piece of the puzzle, but he formulated his own plan to trick Westley and failed to imagine Westley outsmarting him
Except for the part where none of the giblets were poisoned and he was dead as soon as he inhaled the poison. It just took a minute to kill him
They foreshadow it in the book too. When Vizzini begins his vacillating about how he both can't choose his own goblet and can't choose Westley's, the narration says "The man in black was starting to get nervous." Then when Vizzini says "You could have put it in your cup, trusting on your strength to save you", it says "The man in black was very nervous now."
As a kid,I always thought vizinni was talking sense, I just couldnt understand what he said. Now that I'm older I realize how much it really is BS
BlockHead hahahaha
Actually no from the perspective of a competitive mafia player that was a solid case. Every info he gave could be used to reinforce a case or build it entirely
He wasn't wrong, though. He couldn't choose either one.
Lok
Like everyone has said, the reasoning was sound but the conclusion he drew missed the most important take away. He thought himself into a corner.
"Truly you have dizzying intellect"
"Wait till I get going!! Where was I?"
Every single line in this film is absolute gold
"Austrailia"
love how they're so casual even in the battle they knew one is a liar and one is a trickster
@@ZhaoYun320 'many people are saying I'm a stable genius'- something 45th President of U.S. might say
@@ZhaoYun320 “Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me” 😏
I wouldn't be surprised if the entire script eventually ends up in the "memorable quotes" section on IMDB.
Love how done Westley sounds when he says "Australia"
A strange game the only winning move was not to play
The Kobayashi Gambit
War Game Simon I recognize any line from gazillions movies
How about a nice game of chess?
A mental game of chess would be nice like how Sherlock Holmes and Professor James Moriarty did it in Games of Shadows.
“The Game is rigged, but you cannot lose if you do not play” - The Wire
"You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Never gets old
Westley: No u
This quote became a meme.
@@beneko1127 Dammit you beat me to making a Risk reference.
Second is don't invade Russia in the winter
Vietnam
Vizzini was actually quite smart with how he was constantly trying to trick Wesley into revealing secrets, before finally switching cups, and only drinking after Wesley had.
His only flaw was that he did not realize that Wesley was playing a different game than he was.
so the real moral of the story is this
never go in against a sicilian when death is on the line, except for when your opponent is immune to the poison
@@speedrunner1763 Correction:
Never let the challenger choose the means of death
Vizinni was playing chess...
Wesley was playing Death Note
@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034Nah Vizinni was playing chess but Wesley was playing 4d chess
His mistake was failing to understand the game.
His downfall was assuming that the rules were that the poison had to be in one goblet or the other. The game was to determine where the poison was, and to then take a drink. The vagueness opens up different opportunities from both sides. Wesley could've not poisoned either goblet and hoped for Vizzini to panic and give up. Vizzini could've chosen to drink directly from the bottle, as Wesley did not specify from where he had to drink. So by assuming that certain rules were set into place that weren't there, he fell for a trap.
For a self-proclaimed genius, Vizzini wasn't much of an "out of the box" thinker.
He also wasn't very observant, since he paid attention to the guy's face instead of his hands. THE HANDS GAVE IT AWAY!
Intellectual arrogance. He was so sure he understood the rules of the game, he didn't need to think it through any further. Besides, he always intended to win by cheating; switching glasses and watching if the man in black drunk first. So the entire monologue was his attempt to get the man in black off balance and twitchy so that he'd react when he did the 'What's that over there.' stunt.
...Thanks, Captain Obvious.
@@adams1030 Takes a heroic pose as his cape waves in a convenient breeze. 'You are welcome citizen! Now I must away!' Runs off with his arms out making wooshing noises.
A game that relies on your opponent thinking the rules are being followed, against someone that fancies himself a genius. Easy money
"Where was I?" .. "Australia"
This one line alone always gets me to laugh hysterically 🤣
That would be a good idea,
only in the year 1997.
I have such a dizzying intellect that I loose my train of thought after just one sentence off topic! I AM A GENIUS!
Also I'm just sayin, ibogaine is from africa
@@NathanMilburn-y6o it’s not ibogaine. It’s iocaine
@@NathanMilburn-y6oiocane is the poison they’re talking about - which is fictional
Vizzinis childlike move is actually pretty genius in one way.
If Wesley drank from his cup, Vizzini would know the cup he's holding is not the poison.
If Wesley reluctantly drank from his cup, or tried not to, Vizzini would know the cup he's holding is the poison.
So in one way, he had both ways covered to know if he was drinking the poison or not.
He did not expect however that Wesley would drop the poison in both cups.
Well yes, assuming that Wesley didn't know he switched cups. But i think it's pretty obvious he knew exactly why Vizzini "saw" something remarkable over his shoulder at exactly that moment.
This logic is flawed. Vizzini could get the same information regardless of which cup he picked or in what order.
@@LameDuckStudiosHe’d get the information but he wouldn’t be able to “trick” Wesley into drinking from the poisoned cup.
I didn't catch that. That's smart
He overthought it. That was his downfall.
"You do have a dizzying intellect."
Yeah! :D
Westley DID give up the most perfect clue: Westley drank first, so he knew the poison wasn't in his glass. It's a VERY SMART move.
In his mind, Westley wouldn't have drank first if he knew the poison was in his goblet. The rest was just waiting for opportunity.
Nope. They even spend 2 seconds of screen time showing this fact.
Why the fuck would you drink a glass of poison if you know it's in front of you? -- Thoughts in his head.
He waits. Westley drinks first. - Smart.
(Now we can argue, why would you agree to this, and him handling the poison, but hey, he'll totally murder you anyway if you hurt that girl)
Annoying when people delete all their dumb comments.
Napalm38382 They were both poisoned, he built up an immunity to iocane powder
2:38 oh my god i just realized that Vizzini was waiting to see if wesley drank first because if he did, that would tell Vizzini that wesley thought that his own cup was safe, and that’s why Vizzini had thought he’d won! Because he switched the glasses! Damn that makes a lot more sense. I thought he was just crazy.
Pls dont say the lords name in vain
@@axelrivera3382 lol
@@axelrivera3382 your funny @Captain Axe
@@axelrivera3382 Now don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with a bit of common decency. But I've always found it funny how really devout people think this is such a big no-no, because it kinda implies that their god is a vengeful and petty one :) If your god truly is a forgiving power of good and benevolence then I think it would let something like that slide and understand that to err is human. So if this is out of genuine fear of "not getting in heaven" and/or "angering god" that says a lot about ones twisted and frankly downright disturbing view on spirituality :)
@@Micras08 he would let it slide if you repented
The way Westly said "You guessed wrong" and the look he had when he said it has the most subtle darkness to it that actually makes it terrifying, like there is so much power and gravity behind it.
Through the movie we are so blinded by Westley's charm and love for Buttercup it's easy to forget he is still a killer and very competend pirate. That line is kind of a gentle reminder to how ruthless he can be
you *almost* got it right, but it's *Westley*
still, better than most. I'll do you left-handed
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders: over analyzing leads to inaccuracies.
He over-analyzed the wrong things, which were the masked guys personality and his past
AP classes would like to know your location...
He tried to untie the gordian knot, and almost thought to cut it...
...He instead tried to rip it, making the knot tighter and breaking his hands.
Right wing conspiracies in a nutshell.
“So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.”
“So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.”
Yup. You were right. Couldn’t choose either.
Correct. Westley said to Viz that the challenge ends when Viz chooses, and both men drink. If Viz had just chosen to drink from the bottle, he'd have won even though Westley didn't die due to his immunity.
I saw this as part of a group lesson in High School. A part of a Drama or English class. Junior year. The SECOND Vizzini keeled over, someone in the class said "dumbass..." The whole class ERUPTED into laughter. The timing was excellent.
I saw this movie in middle school along with the movie the Matrix that same year. I think in English class as well
One of the best scenes from any movie. Ever.
I find it strange how it took 5 years for someone to reply
Aldo Haimar I find it funny it took 4 months for somebody to respond to yours.
@@mrshadrack8554 I find it hilarious it took someone 3 weeks for someone to reply to yours.
@@youunfriendlyoutlaw4691 I didn’t expect any response.
I dont just find it strange to leave a comment 5 years after...
It's Inconceivable!!!
I picked wrong, Inconceivable!
+CLB TV you keep on using that word, i do not think it means what you think it means.
Jake The Velociraptor 😂
Dude Buddy Man that’s inconceivable!!!!
😂😂😂Inconceivable
@@donaldbarnes4763 no just false memory
I just realized Wesley gulps when Vizzini says "You're exceptionally strong, so you could have put the poison in your own goblet trusting on your strength to save you." Very nice details you catch in these exchanges throughout the film!
The most amazing thing about this scene is that when Vizzini was breaking things down, he was always right.
And Wesley was sly.
He just didn't realise it
They both tried to win by altering the game without the other's knowledge. The battle of wits was not the picking of the right cup it was the battle of who had the best method to win despite what cup the poison was in.
Nope he thought he was a genius and never considered an immunity, one of the ways humans have evolved forever. He left out a classic trait for humans in his determinations. He was foolish and arrogant and that's why he's dead. Alternatively Westley could have stabbed him in the throat while he was rambling on and on but ya this is better.
Wesley poured in both glasses. How is this still debatable @@mattc3581
"Where was i?" "Australia" "yes Australia"
Little piece of advice, we are not *_all_* criminals... 😇 ❤️ from 🇦🇺!
INCONCEIVABLE!
Things are upside down thee, so reverse your choice.
Abby shepherd That was not in the script. He said that because he forgot the line after that, but the other guy just rolled with it.
Abby shepherd
Nothing is as compelling an argument as Australia.
Interestingly, there was absolutely a way for Vizzini to win. And the way Wesley phrased his challenge even suggested as much. He said "Where is the poison?" Not "Which cup has the poison?" The game ends when you choose and we both drink. He never said Vizzini had to choose a cup, the bottle was sitting right there on the table, he could have chosen to drink safely from that, were he actually as clever as he thought he was.
Yep even he says the game only ends when we find out who is right and who is dead, doesn't mean either of them need to die they can both be right
I actually totally agree he tried to give him an out.
In the previous fights Inigo and the giant fought on fair ground, handicapping their strength in some way (using his non dominant hand or going hands on respectively) which is why even when beaten he chose to spare them both.
But here he cheated by switching the glasses when his back was turned. He tried to be tricky and it cost him his life
Additionally, you can very audibly hear him put poison in both cups. Aw buddyyyy.
princess buttercup is just sat there like: 😒
How she doesn't bust out laughing is beyond me
She could have run away easily.
Faceless Voice Well she is blindfolded.
Kiliel Ship she must of been like,
This conversation is stupid 😅.
She had little personality in the movie
This is actually one of the best movies ever. Period. For real
It's arguably the most quoteable movie of all time. Virtually every line of dialogue is famous.
The only american movie i liked more than this one is blues brothers
Absolutely
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 lol have you heard of the dark knight trilogy? Or the Star Wars prequels?
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my Father...prepare to die.
Love how the princess is just quietly crying inside listening to this conversation
don't tell me what to love, dammit
“But it’s so simple”....then proceeds to over-complicate the scenario.
Story of my life
That’s Sicilians for you
When you are good at something, it tends to feel simple, even when you know every step.
you'll probably do the same if your life was on the line
The concept of a strategy can be simple. The strategy itself can be complicated.
Westly: “Inhale this but do not touch.”
Vizzini: *sniff* “I smell nothing.”
Westly: “What you do not smell is a lethal poison. You are now dead.”
"Westly" ;)
THIS MIGHT BE THE FUNNIEST COMMENT IVE EVER SEEN 😂😂😂😂😂😂 MOST UNDERRATED COMMENT OF ALL TIME. SHOULD HAVE 70k likes
There's actually a running theory that Wesley lied to the princess and that this is somewhat the truth! I've seen logic as far as 'wine had a non lethal activater that reacts with the poison and Wesley never smelt the poison, just pretended'
@@jameshenderson4094 Westly
@@jameshenderson4094 thing is doesn’t Humperdinck smell the poison later to identify it while he’s tracking Buttercup?
Wallace Shawn...such a great and underrated actor!! He always falls perfectly into place when it comes to his roles, like a square peg to a square hole.
Instead of switching the wine glasses, he should’ve poured out the wine out of his glass
he was dead from smelling the poison.
neither cup was poisoned
@@madtechnocrat9234 the opposite, both cups were poisoned. Did you not watch the whole video?
@@ChrisTheWeak no they were not. he did not build immunity.
@@madtechnocrat9234 Dude what are you smoking?
At 1:40 - 1:49
Wesley nervously gulps and his confident smirk briefly goes away, when Vizzini gets dangerously close to figuring out the result of this battle of wits.
These little touches are what makes this movie gold.
I literally just realized that Vizzini is played by the same actor who voices Rex from Toy Story.
Whaaaaaaat
He was smart enough to figure it out but too cocky to understand his own deductive reasoning.
He didn’t figure it out at all. It’s actually surprising how stupid he was here. One of the first things he should’ve thought of was the possibility that perhaps both goblets were poisoned. His over analysis of everything is highly convoluted and makes very little sense, relying on far too much guesswork on Vizzini’s part, much of it coming from nowhere. Vizzini’s reasoning is quite narrow, as he doesn’t see any other possibilities other than one goblet or the other being poisoned. The way Wesley words the question leaves numerous solutions Vizzini clearly didn’t think of. Wesley asks where the poison is, not which goblet it is in. He could’ve put it in one, both, even neither, and as an alternative, Vizzini could’ve drank from the bottle the wine was poured in as a truly clever method of outsmarting Wesley. He is not nearly as bright as he thinks he is and the only reason he might have been considered smart was because the other two men working with him weren’t exactly the brightest bulbs.
@@a_fine_edition2746 His reasoning on him being strong enough to resist the poison was close if not for the one crucial element.
@@a_fine_edition2746 on the contrary, the man DID figure it out. Wesley was actually starting to panic once Vizzini said "you'll rely on your strength to save you" and Wesley also said that Wesley has clearly "studied". Wesley was panicking, look at this hand the whole time as well. Because if your opponent is doing someone wrong, you DON'T correct him. Wesley was bluffing and tried to throw Vizzini off. Sadly for Vizzini he DID fall for it, as he didn't pursue nor ponder those two ideas into thinking of the possibility that Wesley studied the poison and learned that he could develop an immunity, which relied on the strength to do so.
TL;DR Vizzini did infact come close to figuring it out but he was thrown off by Wesley
Citrusbird386 In your comment, you switched the names of Wesley and Vizzini. Wesley is the man in Black.
@@justinlokere my mistake, I'll fix that
I feel Westley fell for that "Look behind you" trick on purpose. He wanted to appear like Vizzini outsmarted him, when in fact, he didn't. Vizzini basically gave it away when he said, "Me from my glass, and you from yours." That may be why both goblets were poisoned. Westley outsmarted him.
Anakin SkyWalker yeah because he knew he’d win either way
How do you outsmart someone smarter than you?
Answer: Show them what they expect to see.
Westley wanted to make Vizzini feel better...
I don't know about that, he might have wondered if he really does see something.
Obviously he didn't have to worry about him switching cups so he could afford to look back.
@@terradraca very true, and Vizzini expected Westley to have a fair battle. But instead it game was rigged from the beginning
Elite writing, acting....everything
It's ever so good how Wesley's response to Vizzini pointing out, correctly, that according to logic he cannot drink from either goblet, is to say "you're trying to get me to give something away". It's not a huge moment but it's a lovely little nod to the fact that he is, for the first and perhaps only time in this entire scene, extremely close to the truth of the situation.
*Gasps* I never thought if that
I use a variation of vizzini's speech when someone falls victim to the 4 turn checkmate in chess. "You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. the most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well known is this: never go in with a Sicilian (a chess opening) when chess is on the line"
how about the 2 turn check mate??
Shouldn't you be the one giving Vizzini's speech when about to (unknowingly) lose?
"A joust-- _to the death!"_
"Would you mind changing that to a game of chess?"
"Chess-- to the death?"
@@willh1655 no one ever falls for that one. Everyone knows about it. it's the first thing you learn in chess. Don't move in this very specific way or you lose.
That is awful, I love it
Just my opinion but this scene is just one of those that I’ll never forget. It’ll stick in my mind for ever, hilarious characters, great writing.
It’s actually one of the only scenes I can remember from the movie. It stuck in my head as a kid and I still love it.
Wesley: I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.
Shyamalan: What a twist. :o
domidium it really was
*Shyamalan will remember that*
It's actually not too hard to build up an immunity to poisons. You start with a very low dose. Then when you're no longer affected by that dose, you increase the dosage. Eventually, what was once a lethal dose of poison will be only as deadly as a tablespoon of sugar to an average person.
@@DarthDestructusTheSithLord Is that how vaccines work too?
It’s the way they make anti venoms also, they inject horses
No one is talking about how Buttercup is just sitting there blankly, not saying a word, and without any expression as to what is going on next to her.
"There was just a knife in my neck. Lets scream and see if theyll flinch and throw it far away."
You think that she’d at least turn her head to whoever she hears is speaking
I like to think that she was being silent because she was trying to figure out the battle of wits in her head while Vizzini was laying it all out,she was basically a spectator.
@@individual2122 That's a clever theory.
@@GenieVillain26 thank you.
He would have been right if he stopped after saying he couldn't choose the cup in front of Westley and he also couldn't choose the cup in front of him. Oh well! Brilliant scene.
When you come to the comments to find memes, but you don’t find them
“You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!”
Lol nice
THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK!
wait . . .
@@Euruzilys Nice
INCONCEIVABLE!!
I just tried to find camera shots from here I need to finish an assessment 😭
Vizzini watched him drink first, so he knew he’d chosen correctly, presuming this was a fair test.
Drinking was not part of the contest.
Anything after "The contest begins now" was not part of the rules.
@@stephenolan5539 “We drink, and we find out who is right and who is dead.”
@@Scyllax
That is not one of the rules that is just a mind game to trick Vizzini.
The battle had already started.
When have you ever seen rules given after a game has started?
@@stephenolan5539 What are you talking about? All the comment is saying is that Vizzini had a viable strategy if only one cup was poisoned.
Or rather, presuming that he understood the test correctly. The test was "where is the poison?", not, "One of these glasses is poisoned; pick one, and I will drink the other". For Vizzini, the truly correct answer would've been to drink from the bottle, leaving Wesley to drink from both cups.
One of the most sneakily hilarious quips in the movie (which is saying something):
“But you’ve also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal”
But his Spaniard was…and I quote, “…so slobbering drunk that he couldn’t buy Brandy”. Not much of an achievement. 😂😂
@@thedarkninja2000 *** “Couldn’t. Buy. BRANDYYYY”
If he sounds familiar, he voices Rex the dinosaur in the Toy Story series 😂💕
And Bob’s boss from the Incredibles
And if he doesn't sound familiar he doesn't do the voice?
@@PANZERFAUST90 exactly
@@a-zlin weird
@@PANZERFAUST90 sarcasm
2:15 I just love how Roberts plays along with the so-obvious trick.
This is actually one of the most cleverly written pieces in the whole film. Never get into a land war in Asia hahaha!
Nice picture.
Well, technically he did know where the poison was. It was in the cup he didn’t choose.
That didn’t save him.
But man, was he close when he deduced that Wesley was relying on his strength to save him.
Vizzini died, because there was something he didn’t know.
Westley is not left-handed.
Yeah but did he know
He wasn't left handed either?
They are on the Holideck?
Well yeah!
The genius of this scene is that Wesley both outwitted and didn't outwit him. Wesley knew he couldn't outwit him if it was a battle of the minds straight up, so he turned a battle of wits into a battle of strength... which in and of itself is outwitting your opponent
How is it a battle of strenght?
Surviving poison doesn't take just strenght it takes resistance and that takes years to build up
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f so would you say he spent years training his body to resist poison? Last time I checked training was a feat of strength. Bro resistance is still a form of strength. Hell working out is just damaging your body with movement of weights and then letting your body heal to wit it can RESIST more weight for a longer period of time.
@@wintersoldier909 my bad
I just think of tolerance more like an ability
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f Instead of wits vs strength, consider it as a battle of the mind vs a battle of the body.
Im technicality, it was wits vs wisdom. Vizzinic acted as if he knew everything, Wesley knew he did not.
He was right. He couldn't have chosen either goblet...sadly his "Genius" ran dry a little too soon.
Michael Fawcett If he was such a genius, how could he not have known that one could develop a tolerance for iocane? I don't imagine there are many poisons one can develop an immunity to.
@@derossetmyers47 It's the same method as building tolerance to something like peanuts. A little bit each day, upping dosage, until your body is immune.
@@banjobill8420 Tell that to the guy who tried to build an immunity to Black Widow venom. Oh wait. You can't because he's dead. 😈
I mean, the man who tried to build up an immunity to Black Widow venom IS dead, but that’s because he did it the greater part of a century ago and time removes all things. He was unsuccessful not because it’s impossible but because he chickened out after the horrific and excruciating pain the first bite caused.
@@banjobill8420 That's not how allergies work, poison can because your body can filter it out, but its different with something like a peanut allergy
'You've made your decision, then?'
'The law requires that I answer "no".'
Roger Rabbit Voice: Thanks, I needed that. *Faints*
"We're supposed to help people".
Never even realized that was the same guy
Clips Before Time -
We’re supposed to help OUR people!
@@stoutyyyy also rex from toy story
Some of the best dialog ever written.
one of the greatest scenes in any movie of all time.
1:43 wow Vizzini got the whole trick right there
I don't get it, was his plan to do that? I thought his only trick was that both were poisoned and her had immunity
As an Australian I appreciate the shout out to my convict ancestors
as everyone knows, your continent is entirely peopled with criminals
but you should know, I trust you
At least he got the last laugh.
“In studying you must’ve learned that man is mortal” lmao. Only the most learned know that humans die I guess
I think the inference is that education brings home the idea of human mortality in a more visceral fashion, enough to effect decisions like these.
@@Averyofthemain But extensive medical knowledge also brings forth ideas of treating injuries and poisons, or even building biological tolerance, as shown here with the poison immunity.
To point, Vizzini's fatal flaw was that he was not learned enough to know that a living body is incredibly adaptable, and thus ultimately capable of eventually adapting to build a high tolerance and nigh-immunity to various ill effects, such as sickness, disease, or poison. Or maybe he did learn of it, but simply did not consider it due to believing that his opponent would be stringently honorable, fair, and straightforward in the battle of wits.
"How often do people get killed via a duel of wits using poison?"
"Same number of times as most folks do-- _just the once."_
Only the most learned actually accept that it applies to them.
@@khajiitimanus7432 It’s called mithridatism.
You can develop immunity to certain types of poisons through an antibody response.
It’s like a cup spiked with COVID spike proteins.
I can’t believe he outsmarted the Grand Nagus!
He must have the lobes of a true Ferengi
I feel like Vizzini was too determined to show off his mental abilities to really think for a moment. The fact that he gave a huge speech is evident of this. Smart people are keenly aware of how little they know and so will often remain quiet in the face of a problem. 1 to allow themselves to think and 2 to not give away their lack of knowledge on the matter
But he was too bold in his abilities. He blathered on, blissfully unaware of his lack of knowledge on the matter of poison.
Just like you did?
He actually logically assessed the problem at first when he anylzed that he beat the giant meaning he has good endurance. Then he over thought the situation out of pride and confidence.
He who knows does not speak.
He who speaks does not know.
I think he actually said all of that stuff not just to be pride of his knowledge but mainly to see Westley's reactions (like watching which cup, see any tense behaviour, etc)
His "hm" at 0:07 is what you say when you disagree with someone but don't want to get in an argument.
One of the best movies EVER! ❤😊 It has everything- battles, love, intrigue,horses,sword fights,poison...😊
"They were both poisoned."
😂😂😂😂😂😂dude is savage.
The guy has to have some legit powerful immune system then to trick poison?
@@kejiri3593 not his immune system, he just built up immunity.
@@waspoppin4784 Lets hope he has a antidote on him
@@kejiri3593 he had slowly taken the poison in small doses so his body would gain immunity from it
If Vizzini had followed his train of thought into its most simple conclusion he would have realized what he was saying. That neither of the cups were safe to drink from and that too much risk was stacked against him. The correct winning move would have been to call off the game completely. The chips were in his hands, he threw away his means of victory the moment he agreed to the wager
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
@@JLee-rt6ve There was another way he could've won: "Okay, let's drink: I drink from the bottle, and you drink from both glasses".
@JLee-rt6ve darn, I was about to make the Wargames reference and you beat me to it
I love how he is 100% correct that he cannot choose the wine in front of himself or Roberts.
ITS A TRAP
Admiral Ackbar ha good one
Admiral Ackbar Inconceivable!
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Allahu Akbar! 💣 (BOOM)
Yes its a Mandela effect trap. Her dress used to be BLUE.
This scene is literally one of the best in general history ever
This is my mom's favorite movie, and for good reason. Almost every line in the whole thing is so quotable and hilarious 😂
Poison that came from Australia, "Australia is full of criminals," so that means this movie was set in the around late 1700s to early 1800s. If that's the case, then why are they all dressed like they're in some twilight zone between the renaissance and middle ages?
Same goes as "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Anthony It's a fairy tale, not alot needs to make sense in these types of entertainment.
Really breaks the immersion when you realise a couple of red coats could bust through at any second with rifles.
If they did show up, they'd be too scared of an angry Andre to try shooting. No one pisses off The GIANT.
For what it's worth, the book has a whole thing about being "before" this but "after" that.
I maintain that the reason they didn't show Buttercup's face most of the time is that she couldn't keep from smiling. :)
That does actually make sense.
one of my favorite movie scenes of all time, it's so layered and complex yet utterly ridiculous
This is the most logical conversation in the entire movie.
Vizzini got that vulcan logic
3:14 When you fell victim to one of the classic blunders.
I forgot I made this unoriginal joke and now regret it
It was funny enough.
a- *ded*
i shouldn't be laughing this hard
I love how the first episode of "Sherlock" had a climax based off of this scene😂
Exactly good thing there are people who know this and are still a fan of Sherlock
That was actually from the first Sherlock Holmes book: _A Study in Scarlet,_ though Sherlock himself was never confronted with the two pills in the novel, so that aspect of it could've been taken from this.
Wallace Shawn is yet another living proof (in a lineage that reaches back thousands of years, all the way to Aristophanes) that comedy in all of its variants -- high and low, verbal and physical, written and performed -- absolutely REQUIRES intelligence in its creator(s). You can't possibly master the infinite subtleties and involutions of pratfalls, inflections, sidelong looks of the eyes, and all the rest of comic devices, if you haven't got a mind that is as swift as a gazelle, and as nimble as the fingers of a concert pianist. What a joy it is to watch such people at their best!
One of the best scenes of all time, from one of the greatest movies of all time.
"Truly, you have a dizzying intellect..." is my favorite line.
"You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!"
*Seconds later*
Looks like the turns have tabled.
How the turntables
@@ravenova5314 ah another man of culture
@@lacisum3096 I’m a girl
@@ravenova5314 another human of culture
It's Rex from Toy Story!
No wonder it sounds familiar
And he played Mr. Huff from The Incredibles.
I was scrolling through the comments and I was thinking his voice sounded familiar 😂
@@violetrain4638 YOU DIDN'T KNOW?! INCONCEIVABLE!
Oh, that's why he sounds familiar
Wallace Shawn is awesome
1:40 I love how Vizzini is actually kind of correct here.
Well since he went back and forth a lot on which cup he couldn't choose, wasn't he correct multiple times?
Not only that, but you can see Westley tense up. His smile fades, he figets with his hand, and swallows nervously. He is almost found out. It's a great, subtle bit of acting.
I love how Vizzini is just laughing, and Westley just keeps smiling.
Vizzini even got it right when he guessed Wesley poisoned his own cup and planned to tank the poison. But Vizzini was so nervous he distracted himself with further speculation.
It's so much fun listening to Vizzini evaluate the situation even though it's obvious he didn't really know where the poison was and had to resort to the classic "Hey, what's that?" trick.
I just love the fact that Wesley sits there the whole time knowing that either drink he picks, it doesn’t matter because he poisoned them both. 😂👍
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The funny thing is that there is a safe choice: the bottle, but Wesley successfully fooled him into thinking the battle was that only one cup was poisoned.
The moral of this scene: How do you outwit someone smarter than you? Simple: You show them what they expect to see.
This scene illustrates the fatal weakness of narcissism and how the protagonist exploited that weakness. Smart though his opponent was, the problem with narcissists is they tend to take what people say at face value because they consider it impossible that they could ever be fooled. He lost because he took the challenge at face value. Had he considered the challenge wasn't what it appeared to be, he could have called the protagonist out and won.
Another layer to this whole scene is that, once Westley sat down, vizzini was already dead. At that distance, Westley could have drawn his blade and killed vizzini before he could draw his knife. Or, he could have just jumped over the rock and tackled vizzini before he could react. No matter what vizzini did, the outcome was already decided.
The moral of this comment: use a dictionary so you don’t misuse words like “narcissism” and pay attention in school so you don’t conflate pseudo-intellects like Vizzini for “smart”. Foolish comment OP, sorry.
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec Someone's desperately fishing for drama.
Sorry, not taking the bait.
@@terradraca first of all it irritates me that so many people take what clearly represents/symbolizes pseudo-intellectualism as “smart”. It’s a sad comment on our culture that consumes comedy/entertainment(daily show , Fox News) for politics and listens to fools like Jordan Peterson as “intellectuals”. Before the drinking stand off, Westley grinned while saying “really” when Vizzini called Aristotle and Socrates m0r0ns. He knew that he wasn’t truly a smart person therefore he could fool him.
What truly triggers me is mental illness stigma. People keep using mental illness as synonyms for character defect. Most mentally ill people on average have better character in my experience than those without. As the Bible relates, it’s the tree of knowledge and temptation that leads to evil. Not incompetent sick people. Vizzini and the hundreds of other people you diagnosis as narcissists, are not narcissists. I’ve read Freuds entire essay on narcissism, he coined the term. It is a personality disorder. Narcissists are rarely ever successful or powerful, they have fundamentally dysfunctional personalities that makes it difficult to form relationships or communicate.
Vanity, conceit, solipsism , are better words. But your idea of narcissism sounds like it was lifted from buzzfeed. Just pure psychobabble . You’ve never read a treatise on narcissism.
"NEVER INVOLVED IN A LAND WAR IN ASIA." How come the US Government DOES NOT KNOW THIS?
Jay B they do know this. . . . . It's why the US don't get involved in a land war in Asia such as Vietnam, China or Russia. I mean just imagine trying to attack China through Mongolia
It can afford a ticket. Or thinks so.
Are you talking about Vietnam? Because we kicked the shit out of the enemy there. Its the politics back home that made us leave. So.....
They do know. Which is why their Air Force and Navy is far superior to any in Asia
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Nonetheless, you lost. You can make all the excuses you want but in the end a militia of farmers bested you.