Why I Can't Recommend the Snugpak Ionosphere Any Longer - 10 Year Review Follow-up
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- $300 for this Tent?
Snugpak has to be out of their mind!
It has been almost 10 years since I have initially reviewed the Snugpak Ionosphere and unfortunately, this is a tent that I can no longer recommend.
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Moved their manufacturing to China......what could possibly go wrong? Your reviews are such a great public service....no holds barred.
When will we wake up!!!!
almost everything is made in China. Some companies have better contracts and better quality control. Fjallräven, Hilleberg, stuff like that where nobody ever said it's cheap or badly made. Then there's those who don't care that much.
Snugpak always had two lines: made in the UK and made in China. Even their Chinese made gear was okay. this changed only in the last couple of years. all my Snugpak stuff is older and I have no complains at all.
Moved to China, likely for reduced production costs, but raise the prices anyhow.
Yeah. Chinese is cheap, not inexpensive
@@robsterTN they have been producing in China before Luke knew the company. The problem is that they changed their contractor and saved big on quality control. the result: this mess.
It is sad to hear this review. I have an eight-year-old Ionosphere that I have had zero issues with, and it is one of my favorites. Thanks for keeping us apprised of what SnugPak has reduced itself to. I have some recent copies of their dry bags, and they are pretty well made and have kept my gear dry, but they are not as lightweight as offerings from places like Sea to Summit.
@Bobby T “naive reviewer”, hardly? You did not express a lot of valuable content in your very long “rant”, do you work for the
company that he is reviewing, maybe?
@Bobby T iI have been in the woods longer than you have been alive, Kid! You go ahead and try to survive out there in the woods with trash products
made in certain countries? Polyester does not “breathe” properly in my experience so tent materials and how the tent is made is crucial; you are very
young and you seem like you might be from another country by your use of english. Why not start your own channel with your own opinions instead
of behaving badly on someone else’s channel, especially one who goes out and actually tests the product which you do not do, right?
@Bobby T P.S. The best tents out there are “military grade” which the materials are described as follows “The Vinyl General Purpose Small Tent is a six-sided pyramid-style tent made from cotton canvas and vinyl material supported by a center pole and sidewall poles”.
Best material for military grade tents begin with material made with a grade from 1,000 to 10,000mm is fully waterproof. Yes, poly/cotton canvas material
can be excellent as well if it is well made because it dries out faster!
How do you make this secure because I’m having issues with the outer tent?
I have a Snugpak Ionosphere and I paid well over $200. for it. I got over the price when I decided to buy it based on your last in-depth 2-part review of it, as well as other sources. I was a Ranger for 8 yrs and things like the odd loose thread that I can clip immediately are not things I even notice. I appreciate the low-profile shape and color most AND having that much inside space in what essentially is a "spacious bivy" more than a real 1-person tent and for me? The fact that it hasn't leaked, it keeps the bugs out and is light enough for me, means that it checks off MOST of the boxes. My one Con is I wish the poles folded into quarters instead of thirds. It would make everything so much easier to pack inside a pack. Good looking out though.
I know that Campmor used to sell everything needed for building replacement poles for tents. I don't know if they still do or not but it might be worth looking into so that you can make your own 4 section poles. Just a thought.
The USD is worthless
Re: "Rabbit Hole"....My thoughts on my Ionosphere, exactly 🙂
RLTW
It's waaaay to heavy for the size an outdated asfk. Just get a ultralight one man and you'll be way happier
I actually was going to get one for this summer to work my way back into the woods. Thanks for the heads up. My opinion on what is going on with the company is they started getting it done cheaper for more profits an now has really effected their company. Money over quality. Simple.
My friend you are the man keep up the good work. We need a watch dog like you out there . We appreciate you big time.
I am from the UK and I agree with your opinion as I used to have several of their products, but over the last few years I also have noticed that their prices have gone up but quality has gone down. So nowadays I have moved to other manufacturers. It is a shame as I used to love the products and used to recommend them, but I now advise them to use other companies who provided a better product for the same prices if not cheaper.
Hi, what company you recommend?
It's sad when an overall attractive company runs itself into the ground with poor manufacturing and a comparitively very unreasonable pricing for their used materials alone. Maybe there was a change in management.
I live in the UK!!! I used to like snugpak all the time!! This is what happens when u try to do things on the cheap to make more money!!!! Should have kept manufacturing in the UK 🇬🇧!!! There softies were fantastic!! I agree with you don't buy snugpak!!
I have been looking to buy a tent but haven't come across this tent you mention. I wouldn't consider it because it's to small for my needs. However, I trust your opinion Luke and will take into consideration anything you have to say about any camping equipment in general. Thank you what you do for us.
Look at the MSR freelite or hubba series... there expensive but there bombproof tents and the customer service is solid. I finally got to play with the Hubba NX1.
I havent got mine yet but I bought a brand new Alps Mountaineering Zephyr 1 which hes done a review on. Definitley cheap but a lot better then this one from the looks of it.
Look at Terra Nova tents and their sister company Wild Country.
In Germany you can still get it in the MTP camo version for 170€ and in green for 160€. Actually thought about getting the camouflage fly for mine, but these days I rather use just the inner as a bugnet and a tarp overhead. Way less claustrophobic that way and enough room for my gear and cooking.
The only SnugPak product I have is the 100L Bergen which I cannot fault at all. Surprised about the pricing outside of the UK, in the UK their products are still pretty reasonably priced, I paid around £125 for the bergen if memory serves which is a pretty good price for the quality of bag.
I was looking at that about two years ago when I wanted a new tent. So glad that I went with the Jack Wolfskin Gossamer II that you tested too which is also bigger than the Ionosphere. Even that is a bit on the small side for me. I got that for 219,- Euros and for that, it is excellent value.
And as for them as a company: that is when the beancounters and consultants take over and they start cutting corners and abandon what made the brand great to begin with. They don't care. All they care about are their spreadsheets and investors earnings which ultimately runs them straight in the ground.
Well said man! The Journey Solo is exactly the same, but with a backpacker orange rain fly, and costs about $100 less. The only Snugpak product I've liked in the last decade is their bivy, but I'm sure that will be ruined soon.
similar, yes; but certainly not the same............
If It ain't grunt proof.... it won't work for me either
I’m with you on both items. Luke thats why I follow your Vlogs, you tell it like it is and if I’m looking (and have) for a product I always refer back to your vlogs and listen to your reasoning. Thank you and your family!
Strength and Honor!!!
This company has made a name for themselves with a lot of help from your positive reviews in the past. Many manufacturers are following these business practices and need to be called out. Nice to see you do a video like this.
You're not picking on anyone. You're doing what we want you to do. Test, review, report. That gives us peace of mind for which we are grateful.
I bought a snugpak Bunker brand new cheap for £287 in January, Ive had no problems with it yet its handled wind and rain really well, The floor is very thin though.
Chinese manufacture - seems like it never fails: close but no cigar. It may look like the thing, but it ain't the thing. Thank you for following up. You're a reliable, trusted source of info.
I actually got the Gossamer 2, because of your reviews and took it on a 4 month trip through sweden. It was the ideal tent for me and held up realy well.
Thanks for your reviews
I would not purchase a Snugpac product now. Your reviews make sense to me and hold a lot of weight. Thanks for what you do for the outdoors community.
Always appreciate your honesty and your reviews. Your doing all of us a great service. Thank you Luke!!
Wow 300 bucks, better off with eureka solitaire for 100 bucks I love my solitaire always reliable. Crazy prices on everything outdoor related products nowadays. Thanks Luke be well 👍
I appreciate you pointing out the polyester materials used in construction. I’ve definitely noticed across the board many companies marking up, suggested retail prices on tents and other outdoor gear.
Inflation does contribute, but as you pointed out many of these products have doubled in price. I had never looked into the materials, used in snug pack, but assumed it was ripstop nylon due to the fact that I had heard military was using their products. You’re totally right polyester is a cheap fabric and what they’re selling you is marketing speak. They’re selling us a sales pitch these days not a quality product.
I've bought several Snugpak products: Antarctic mats, tent boots, and a Jungle Blanket. Can't say that they're bad at all. Pricey, perhaps. But not bad.
Edited to add: IIRC, the Antarctic Mats were UK-made. They're not terribly comfortable, but they do provide insulation, and won't puncture. I use them in conjunction with a Trekology UL80.
Great review, Luke. I own both the Stratosphere, the Ionosphere & the Scorpion 3. I've enjoyed them all. I would not, however, pay the current prices.
For the guy that just needs to buy something, the multiple different materials and coating is very hard to research. It’s hard enough to find a Model or manufacturer that works for my needs.
Luke, I think your the guy that could put together a chart of material and construction methods to help us. Even for tents, tarps, pack’s, and clothing. You probably have the most and best experiences.
Yep, U da MAN
A clear case of price gouging. I guess greed is good 💵. Luke, sincere thanks for sharing this honest informative review. All the best to you and Susie. Stay safe out there. 🤗 👋
Once again, thanks for the review. At the risk of repeating myself: You are one of the few people on the internet who I trust.
I used to like Snugpak and I once got some clothing made to measure at their home factory several years ago and they did a great job. I have asked them several times since UK covid restrictions were stopped over a year and a half ago. They are still refusing my requests. I am approx 6ft 9 in tall and weigh 180 kilos . Now I am struggling to find any outdoor clothing or equipment to fit me now . The few companies thar are doing outsized clothing for the UK market are charge astronomical prices and are wondering why no one is buying their stuff . An ideal business opportunity for the right person with good tailoring skills . Decent video and thanks for keeping us aware of such things .
Hi Luke , I've used this tent a lot in some of the worst weather the UK could throw at me over that last 12 months extreme cold , wind ,rain and it stood up very well to all of it including snow as well £180.00
How do you pitch this tent in the rain?
You rock friend! I hate price gouging! More then anything. So thank you for your honesty!! 😊👍😊
I have the Scorpion 3 and purchased it on your say so, after watching your video on it, I think you said "it's a great tent. " And I recommend it".
It's good to find you again. I subscribed long ago but Google decided not to present your videos to me for months, and I forgot all about you until a couple of days ago, so I had to search through my membership list, play a few of your videos, and now they're showing up again.
I’m so glad you do these reviews and updates. Such a shame this company has gone downhill.
Thank you very much for trying it out for us. I have similar experience with sleeping bag. I have 2 older sleeping bags, used and abused and still somewhat holding up, and I bought new sleeping bag a year ago and it has countless holes. So it seems to be more material rather than manufacture problem. Either way it's great to know I wasn't imagining it. My next sleeping bag is going to be different brand for sure. It's a pity, my 10 year old Antarctica sleeping bag is a work horse. Still going strong. Oh well. Thank you very much for the info! Much appreciated.
Thanks for that Jack Wolfskin Gossamer 2 reference.
BTW, some of the best, most innovative, modern tents are polyester.
(Durston, TarpTent)
That alone is not an indication of a bad/weak/cheap tent.
I bought the Ionosphere years ago. Payed about 170 for it. Haven't noticed any factory defects in mine. But I have noticed the price hike, which is crazy. Also I have heard about quality control issues they have had. Feel lucky I got mine when I did.
I I've this tent for 5 years the real one not the one from the virus country. I always water seal all me tents even in get a brand new one that is just me. Years ago while camping I had n old army issue tent that had some dripping or rain on the seam duct taped it and solved the temporary problem. I recently picked up a snugpac jacket last year while on an adventure for about 40 bucks but needed it and was surprised to find out it was not made in England. Luke love the channel thanks for your always straight up honest view on products and love to what's what you review on gear sell out on eBay. Stay safe everyone.
My family always waits for your reviews on camping equipment. Your great Luke thanks from our family. Say hi to Susie for us.
I have enjoyed the Ionsophere, bought a few years back. But my new favourite tunnel tent after last year is a Naturehike Opalus 2, in 20D nylon. It's kind of like the ionosphere but has a vestibule, can be set up fly first, bit more room. I should say whenever I used it, the rain just vanished, so still have to test it full-on.
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke and thank you for sharing your adventures and equipment testing and sharing the facts and truth that nobody wants to share
These videos are good for those who don't go into huge detail about their tent they buy, lots would be as thorough as TOGR. I am happy with the tent I have but I do enjoy these videos. Thanks.
@OutDoor6 scammer
I purchased their 100L bergen last summer, and the chest strap came loose from stitching after five days of use. Here in the UK the ionosphere has gone up in price to £200 for the olive,£225 for the camouflage version. I was interested in buying one, as I wanted a tent to use for the odd nite out stealth wild camping, but seeing your video has halted that..Thank You so much for the heads up. I’m definitely not taking the risk of buying one.
I note on the UK a website it states they still manufacture sleeping bags and outdoor clothing in the UK. No mention of where the Tents are manufactured. I do have their Bunker tent, even after 8 years of use is still performing like a bunker, incl in heavy snow,winds,rain.
Well, there is a reason I follow you and recommend products to you for testing. You see the characteristics and traits I do not, so over the years, I have learned to trust your judgment. Based on your very well-informed video containing your recommendation, I would not purchase snugpak products. I have been eyeing one of their jackets, waiting for a good deal or prices to fall, and do not believe I can trust the product description resulting in a lack of trust thus my decision to not purchase. I even learned the difference in material today to watch for in future products (rip stop nylon instead of polyester). Keep up the great videos and reviews! Long time follower
Thanks for the warning on the brand(s). I'll steer clear.
They cost 410.47 + tax, here in Ontario for the one person , That is outrageouse I can get a tent for that. Thanks for the review I appreciate your reviews helps me decide what are good outdoor products to buy amongst other items .
I bought a Jack Wolfskin Gossamer 1 a week ago, so happy that I made this choice instead of the Snugpak Ionosphere!
I have one of the BattlBox Tents that I stayed in for 3 weeks in Hungary while doing some training and had no issues. Maybe they are hit and miss but I like mine.
0:30 that's also a big deal for us outside of the US. Price around 200 Euros - but the quality suffered.
Happy New Outdoor Year from Europe!
My friend just bought one for £140 in UK, I recommend Ferrino Sling 1, £110. Only slightly smaller than ionosphere, but pretty much identical but only 1kg.
Hi Luke , I live in the UK , and the only Snugpack item that I use is the Jungle blanket , it has kept me warm in all weathers for five years now , I do not think that their modern equipment is up to the quality of the earlier gear , Be Well my Friend , take care and keep up the good work .
I think you being helpful to the outdoor community is very helpful and every company now days seem to have lost it. Great thing I have a Teton tent. Great company and leading the way with great pricing and customer service and quality. Thanks Luke.
While I’m sorry to hear of another manufacturer letting quality slip and prices rise I’m glad you shared this review of SnugPak. I’ve heard similar things about their products and hoped they were addressing these issues. At some point they will have to address things or close their door.
I would not purchased this product; you have established a reputation that has and is of great value, thank you Luke!
I have a Snugpak Ionosphere which i bought here in the UK , I will certainly be testing it in my garden before i take it any where else . Thank you for the review and the warning , such a shame a good company has gone bad with what i can only say is through greed of trying to make their products cheaper to make yet clearly are now charging the Earth !!! .
I bought a snugpak jungle blanket for $1 brand new at a rummage sale. That is the only thing I have them. Thanks for your review Luke appreciate you!
I've had a jungle blanket for several years and it was worth the $40 or so I paid for it. I use it as a summer quilt in my hammock.
@@BlackcatOutdoors I used it all last year worth the 40 for sure it was even better getting it for 1 dollar. Things people get rid of when they move. I also got other great deals from that rummage sale.
Waschbenzin, Silikon, mixen, auf Laken oder Bauhaustarp auftragen und Zelt selber machen. Selber machen ist gut. Glückwünsche und alles gute weiterhin 👍🏻.
Well, I took my Snugpak Scorpion 3 to the NH mountains this weekend (bought it 3 or so years ago). Campground closed after I got there, nobody there but me. Long story short, it took everything mother nature could throw at it. Heavy, wet snow, sleet, high winds and then constant, cold rain. I could hear the wet snow sliding down the sides of the tent during the night, and no - the top of the tent wasn't an issue either. Did it sag a big under the weight of the snow? Yep. Did it do a good job shedding most of that snow/water? Yep. Did it collapse or leak? Nope. Only knocked snow off when I got up too, not throughout the night. A LOT of my other stuff got damp or flat out wet. This tent was my one refuge, the one place I knew I'd be safe and dry. It was and remains, one of my best purchases... EDIT: I researched a bit further, and the Scorpion 3 "IX" they're selling now... has much cheaper/flimsier poles. And if they're cheaping out on that, you can bet the other materials are likely inferior too. Sad. Snugpak, please do something to restore your reputation. You can start with lowering your prices by the 2/3rds you increased them by!!!
I 100 percent trust your evaluation and opinions on every product. I would not purchase that tent or anything from that company. Just isn't worth it. Thank you again Luke for being there for us.
Had just ordered the Ionosphere after seeing your 4 year review on a supplier website..then this 10 year I dont recommend it popped up, and got onto the supplier to cancel my order. The supplier was surprised themselves as they said were importing them from the uk but when they checked the label they were in fact made from china..thanks for your video I have been able to get my money back
I've been following you and enjoying your reviews for a few years, now. I've owned both an Ionosphere and Bunker from Snugpak for approximately 8 years and still have them. It's a shame their quality and price are in the tank. More recently for solo Jeep trips, I've been using a Litefighter OCP and Eureka TCOP.
I’ve got a bunch of snug and your right you gotta be cautious. I’ve got lucky so far, but my friends have had issues.
I have a snugpak product and it is very good. I have always liked this company and am sorry to hear of their quality decline. It getting harder and harder to find equipment not made in china… maybe they will see this review and do something about it. Thanks for the update!
wow what a shame, very good video, and thanks for keeping us up to date. $300 is a lot of money for me to spend on a tent. I would have to do a lot of research and get the tent from a place like REI that will take back anything if I'm not happy with it after using it.
REI no longer offers a life time warranty on their products, 90 days is it. Since they have most of their products from China, and the quality is obvious, though they still get premium prices.
So, beware before buying. They like most other outdoor recreation companies, now try to be something to everyone, while sacrificing quality and member service, for PROFIT.
@@Raya14 They have a one-year no-question asked return police as a member. As I learned in the Army there is a way around everything.
Honesty is priceless. I subscribed after this video. Thank you for integrity.
Thanks for this .... they still make packs ... I got the Bergen. It's nice. I did buy a Litefighter 1 because of your reviews.
I've always loved my snug pack jungle blanket. I like it better than my old army woobie. The price used to be only 30 bucks. I just checked and it's up to 50. I think it still might be worth it.
I have a four year old ionosphere, it is fantastic. Served me very well in heavy rain and wind on motorcycle trips. Sad to hear that the quality from snugpak is failing lately, I bought many items in the past from them. The junglebag is a really nice warmer weather sleepingbag for low costs.
Brother I'm tell you thank you very much we all appreciate what you're doing❤
Glad I bought mine back in 2018, it's held up well and the price was at the low end back then.
Hi Luke I would like to say thank you for these reviews! Information such as this saves lives of new hiker/camping folk and is inspirational for the younger gen my 10 year old son loves your videos .
I know a lot of people who got the SP hooped bivy bag. They all suffered under heavy condensation. It still remains a popular product with a quality standard from 2003. Almost anything is better and lighter today.
Glad I got my Ionosphere back in the day when you reviewed it, also have a jungle blanket as well
I have learned so much from this channel, plus the adventures are top notch!
Great review, i was thinking of buying this tent for ca 5 years ago and the price was then ca 100$ but now it cost 278$, the Gossamer kost 134$ her in Sweden. 🤔😎
I have gotten to a point that for the money and quality it is cheaper to just buy a good tarp....add a decent Bivy and 2 good walking sticks..... these 3 items will give you better shelter that is adoptable anywhere in a dozen diffent configurations !!..... Hell ... I even put a stove jack in my tarp so it all becomes a hot tent as needed and every part of it is multi purpose and keep costs at 200 or less complete for everything stakes cordage and all !!!......woodstove and chimney Not Included !!.... LOL
Thank you for the tip! I bought a ton of Snugpak before the change other than a few accessories. I won't be buying anymore products from them though because that is to risky to spend that much $ on Chinese products.
I have had the snugpak jungle blanket and the sleeping bag liner for about 8 years now, and they are great. As for their tents , I've never been overly impressed with them. I have, however, been a big fan of Jack Wolfskin. I have the Gossamer 2 tent, and it is amazing for the price and size here in the uk. You can't go wrong. I have also started looking at the Crua tents and a Crua Modus with the insulated liner. That tent was great at -7.
I paid $300 for my 8 man tent back in 2008 and its heavy duty and still going strong.
Thanks for the info Luke. I have been hearing lately that Snugpak's quality and QC has gone down the tubes and that their products are not worth what they are charging. Thanks again for your input.
Man I ABSOLUTELY HATE to hear this. I've got a ton of older Snugpak camping gear. The Bunker has served me very well over the past 8-10 years. I always wanted to get myself the Ionosphere, had it on many wish lists and followed it for a long time. Never pulled the trigger, and I'm very sad to see the Quality taking a dive, to the Price skyrocketing. This really bums me out, I love Snugpak. But like everything else in life, CHANGE is always coming. Thanks as always for the real and honest review Mr. Luke 🤘🤘
Michael, with the older gear, what you have is a gold mine. People that are turned off by the quality and price of the new gear, will be looking Specifically for the older gear.
Borah Gear makes a bivvy that is VERY popular with long distance hikers. Hand Made in Montana, 5-6 ounces depending on options, and only $102-$117!
I bought this in the UK about 9 months for 180 pounds. I had a look today and see it at a few retailers in the US at 220-245 dollars. Thats pretty inline with exchange rates.
I bought the original on your recommendation Luke . Unfortunately when companies move to China it does impact quality. As always you’re a credit to the outdoor gear world 🇮🇪🇮🇪
I was recently in the market for a small, bivy-style tent and saw all the glowing reviews for the Ionosphere and what a great deal it was for the ~$160 it was. Decided on it and started looking for one, when I saw all the listings for $300 like you say, I was so confused. I found one eBay listing for $160 + $20 shipping from the UK (which was understandable), so I bit the bullet. After I ordered it, I *then* found out that they'd since moved their manufacturing to China and it didn't live up to its former glory. I wish I hadn't bought it, but too late now. The funny thing is, by the time it finally got here, I had decided a tent wasn't really necessary and I could get by just fine making a tarp tent. If I wasn't worried about the price doubling before I decided, I'd have slept on it a little longer, but I figured it was now-or-never at $160. Live and learn, I suppose.
I always liked it and I have been watching a long time. I remember the earliest Videos on the Ionosphere. No interest now. Still doing great work Luke!
The biggest laugh line of the review, a leader in lightweight and technical products.
Bought one for £150, and sold it after using it once...all the effort of the setup and the space it provides...you may aswell get an Alpkit Elan.
I have the Snugpak Endurance rucksack- pretty happy with it, it's relatively heavy, but for the style it's quite light. I'll end up replacing it with a Crossfire DG3 eventually (find a better 55L pack, doubt you'll be able to).
I have a Scorpion 3 that I purchased off Ebay a couple years ago. It was new in box but I think probably a little older. My impression is it was adequate for wind gusting to 40 mph but I wouldn't want it in a heavy snow event because it doesn't allow for the snow to slide off the top (lesson learned). I used it about a month ago at Mount Rainier and we had about 8 inches of fresh snow fall overnight. I had to keep shaking the snow off so the fly didn't sag down into the inner. So far, that is the only complaint I have about it.
And I definitely DIDN'T pay $600 for it! 😂
Ordered mine in July of 2020 after watching your videos recommending them. I paid only $264 CAD for it. Inspecting it and testing it out, it never had any issues. I think I got lucky. I feel for those less fortunate than me, hopefully they got their money back
For 450€ i bought a MSR Hubba Hubba. Its still at this price. 2 Person tent with Nylon materials, good space for 2 persons and great headroom. Weight is the same as this. I know its not the best tent to compare it with, but i still use it as a 1 person tent, since the weight allows me to do it. For 150€ more you get a much bigger tent, which has far better materials and the same weight. For 300$ you are able to get much better 1 person tents aswell.
Thank you for the update! VERY important info. Thank you for your reviews- I have utilized your guidance on so many occasions! - Stay safe, be well, and keep up your great work! : You help us all!
Luke, I never seen you review tents from Marmot. I bought a Marmot Crane Creek 2 person for just under $200 a few years ago. So far no issues when going out with it. Great 3 season tent. I never saw you do a review on Marmot tents. Decent price for a decent product.
I use the DD Hammock as a ground bivy. Works great
Great review ,it's nice we have someone to tell us the truth,about these products, keep up the good work stay blessed
I bought one of these Ionospheres about 10 years ago and I couldn't recommend it even then. My big problem with it was the location of the entrance. It's the worst tent I've ever tried to get in and out of. You either have to crawl in head first and then try to turn around, or try to get into it scooting yourself feet first on your knees or butt. I used it once and never set it up again. I have an older, but way better stealth camping tent with a side access that I got from Sportsman's Guide nearly 20 years ago. It's lighter, has a lower profile, and it sets up much quicker and easier.
Sad to hear this. The Ionosphere I bought in 2017 was made in China but was and is still very good. Their Softie sleeping bag range are still excellent and still made in Yorkshire! They are made to order plus they do an extra long version with the zip on the left or right side which suits me being a 6'7 cuddy wifter!
check the quality of the 1440p and 2160p vs 1080p I think your codec choked (or youtube forgot lube)
You're right about these tents being too expensive, I could hand-make these at a handy profit at twice the quality at home. A flex arch stuck under the center of the tarp would be a huge improvement and comparatively cheap.
Well the model is compact, packable in my backpack and the price was good at the time several years ago. I also have a much more expensive heated 4 season tent that I can't move. Their is a need for both. Buyer be ware. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts.
Bought a snugpak traveller sleepingbag a few years ago, ripped it wide open while sleeping. Got a replacement from the company i bought it from.