The point you brought up about mimicry is what really floors me about this. Millions of dollars, probably years of work, and no one was like "Hey... How do we know he understands?" Acid must be a heck of a drug.
@@zionleach3001 I agree with the red flags you identified; "for the greater good" is a blank check that can go dangerously unexamined. However, I don't think the drugs were anywhere near the main problem here. I'm much more concerned with the research ethics. Especially when psychedelics show great promise for the treatment of various mental health problems.
"With their high intelligence he figured that if he could find some way to communicate with dolphins that could lead us to find a way to talk to aliens." Making that leap while high asf must've been SUPER EASY barely an inconvenience.
That's not as far a leap as one might thing. It's basically the idea that how do you communicate with something that has intelligence not to different from your own, but at the same time evolved in an entirely different environment, and biology.
@@BigTuk exactly, it's just the first stepping stone. You're presented with a language that evolved completely outside of human languages and your job is to figure out what they're saying. This experiment just wasn't the right way to go about it. But I remember hearing about an experiment using AI to decode the squeaks of mice.
Man, the idea where putting two dolphins in separate tanks yet still had a way to communicate to each other to learn their language could of been way more ground breaking than law breaking.
Fun fact: the guy who "had relations" with Dolly is named Malcolm Brenner. The only reason I know that is because he is an alum from the college I attended. He even has a number like Kevin Bacon, but it's called the Dolphin Number. Did I mention that I hate knowing this?
We talked about this experiment in my Psychology classes because it happened next door in the USVI. Too bad brain bleach isn't an actual thing (how did this happen twice?)
When I was interviewing for grad school I had an interview with a doctor named Malcolm Brenner who very insistently included his middle name. I googled him to learn about his work before I talked to him and that was the first time I found out about the dolphin guy and understood why the person I interviewed with made sure to include his middle name.
It's so bizarre that they never questioned if a dolphin could physically make English word sounds. My dog knows what several words mean, but it would never occur to me that I could get her to actually speak back.
Shit, English is probably the hardest thing you could teach them with. English has a lot of weird sounds that don't occur in other languages, like "th" and the way we say our "r"s.
Seconded. It's easy to hop on the sensationalist bandwagon and talk shit about a situation for clout. It's another thing to model journalistic integrity and portray the people in a story as complex individuals who are usually just doing their best.
Video suggestion: It would be awesome if you could do a mention if you could do a video mentioning Zalim the Tiger, a tiger who successfully raised his two daughters after the death of their mother, and was so protective of them that he even turned down mating with other females in order to make sure they were safe.
I feel like we should create a language kinda like morse code for dolphins. See if we could actually have a conversation with one. I hate it when I see people say, "look my animal can talk." When in reality the defintion of talk is not to just make a noise that sounds like a word. But to give information, express Ideas and feelings with words. It's litteraly the defintion, so they aren't talking at all.
By that definition, there are animals that can talk. Sure a lot of it is copying, without knowing what they're saying, because they get a positive response. But I know of a parrot that would say "this empty", while holding the feeding cup, to communicate that they want food. They are expressing a need with words, so by what you said that qualifies as talking right? How about dogs or cats that use those word buttons? I'm a bit skeptical about it, but it often does look like they use it to convey a need or idea. They're not.. speaking though.. they press a button to make the sound 🤔
Yeah, but I miss the hood name and the low budget camera phone resolution and choppy 5th grade camera cuts. The only thing remaining that's original is the iphone ear buds mic holding. It's amazing the amount of subs and only recently changing to be a bit more professional. I'd praise it, but I appreciated the save every penny budget.
Man, I love seeing how much you've grown as a channel, how you've advanced as a writer & host. Witnessing you perfect your craft is fantastic, keep it up.
The fact that Lilly got funded over the guy who suggested trying to understand actual dolphin communication pretty much describes the 60's to a tee. That must have been some crazy good acid. 😂
To be fair though, decoding the language of another intelligent species that lives on earth is still a reasonable practice run for decoding an alien language, even though this particular experiment was a mess lol
There's one detail I just noticed now. Casual literally said LSD in so many ways that no one noticed. He said certain phrases that if you abbreviated, would spell LSD and I bet my left sack that it was 100% intentional. We have -The actual meaning (LySergic Acid Diethylamide) -Little Slice of Delight -Lovely Saturday Drive -Little Sense of Direction -Light Seasoning of Dope All of these are things he said in the video and they all can be shortened to spell out LSD. I bet it was intentional. [Edit 11 months later: I forgot "Little Surprise Dose" as the replies mentioned, my bad.]
Casual is the king of slang and analogies, his mastery of comedic wording is one of the reasons for his channels appeal. His scripts are 100% thought out.
John C Lilly is one of these scientists that belong to the category I call "Madman in a labcoat". "Because you can doesn't always mean you should", and this story illustrates this perfectly
Many of the greatest accomplishments in history were achieved by "madmen in labcoats". Besides, anyone responsible for Ecco The Dolphin can't be that bad......
John c. lily was so high on acid that he started to believe that there was an alien council seeking to help him in his mission to teach dolphins english, and after some time the alien council that he hallucinated started to say that he was using too much acid, his own acid induced hallucinations wanted him to stop taking acid.
Speaking as a believer in science, there are some experiments and studies where even I think "Come on guys, what the fuck?" This channel deserves a lot more attention - it's such an excellent blend of education and comedy and I worship the shit out of it 🥰
I swear some of this shit is done with the mindset of "This is stupid, but at least it will make for a fun fact or story 50 or so years down the line."
Bro everyone is a "believer in science," it's literally science. The only few that deny it are room temperature IQ pigeons that want to feel special by denying literal facts.
That ain't fair. How come people tried to capitalise on Margaret's situation by presenting her as a zoophile even though all the stuff she did was solely for the experiment alone. Meanwhile, the acid tripping old geezer who had all the recognition from her efforts and dedication never got as much public backlash as she did.
Take it from me, people will unjustly capitalize on any situation if it's weird/gross/vulgar enough. This relationship has been sensationalized to death. MHL was dealing with Peter's sexual urges in a perfectly logical way, for a dolphin. Her problem was she couldn't keep up with teaching him English as fast as he would have liked it! I've had this problem with dolphins too: they do not suffer boredom gladly!
Because as far as we know, no one forced her to have sex with a Dolphin. And if that was her answer to the "problem", then it does indeed make her a zoophile by action if not attraction.
Also I need to mention that during the experiment most of the time he was in the sensory deprivation tank on acid. He did this to talk to psychic aliens who would give him advice during the experiment. I could not make that up even if I tried.
It is the way that people treat animals that truly show how cruel we can be. These poor dolphins. They asked for none of this. Used abused and discarded. With committing suicide as the only option to escape this nightmare. Not even in the worst horror movies could we describe even a fraction of what is done to animals in the name of science.
Just look up the pit of despair... There's a reason I very much dislike a majority of human beings. Especially the ones trying to justify shit like that for "science"
@@jayswrld666 Ah yes. Animal abuse and pushing an innocent dolphin to suicide to escape captivity isn't showing of human cruelty. Really wacky take man.
The way animals suffer because of the human ego really pisses me off the fact that I'm not even a neuroscientist and even I thought why try to make an animal do something it isn't even built to do.
They shoulda came up with their own language in clicks, squeaks, and whistles. They could have easily used something to make those types of noises, although it wouldn't be directly from the person. If given enough context, I think the dolphins could have learned it as long as they created a well formed, thought out, limited vocabulary language.
It might be hard to tell if you’re really “talking” to the animals or just teaching them to associate certain sounds with food, but building off their own sounds seems like the obvious first step.
Atrocity Guide did a video on the experiment too and she found interviews from other people who worked with Lilly on this experiment. They were ALL servicing those dolphins!!!
I don't remember that from that video. Not at all. Peter Dolphin and Margaret shared a special bond, she said so. Dolphins are capable of far greater emotional investment than "civilized" humans. I've had one kill herself on me; I was 1,500 miles away, and a dolphin nightmare left me gasping for breath. That's entanglement you don't ordinarily have with other humans.
There was also a project for animals to learn human speech from a beluga whale. In fact this beluga spoke an uncanny human voice so well that a scientist once went to his tank and heard Get Out multiple times. Before leaving he talked to the observing scientists on why they said to get off but they said the beluga whale said it. There is an audio out on the internet of the beluga speaking. Honestly amazing stuff. Thanks science!
That's not the entire story. The entire story was that they discovered this because the director of the tank cleaning crew always only said "Get out" or "Out". Using what is essentially an underwater speaker. Can you guess how they figured out the beluga learnt? Exactly, a diver exited the tank, thinking bossman told him to get out. This happened multiple times until they noticed the Beluga saying it
The overall quality of video you provided have gotten better and better. Most youtubers find a method and stick with it but you have progressively gotten better over time. Bravo!
I love that you mentioned that the dolphin Peter caught feelings. It's an important distinction many people just don't want to associate with animals in general. And yes I liked the video 😄😂. Keep it up. Luv luv
I feel so bad for (almost) everyone involved. Margaret deserved better than to have her legacy be "The woman who jacked off a dolphin" since honestly I feel like the fact that a dolphin basically pair-bonded with a human woman is the most interesting aspect of psychology we got out of this (Edit, the fact that lily's work also taught us more about dolphins in general is also pretty neat). And if it weren't for this legacy she probably would've been a much more successful scientist today than John Lily ever was. Peter deserved better than to be abandoned and left in shitty conditions while ALSO being heartbroken to the point that killing himself was better than living whatever hell he was thrown into (And really the cruelty towards dolphins IN GENERAL is pathetic considering they're supposedly "The smartest things that aren't people". Like bro, treat them better even if they're in captivity.) Greg Bateson deserved better than being stuck in an experiment that was guaranteed to fail from the start and watch this whole circus play out, and also the fact that he probably couldn't even get his "what if we learned Dolphin instead" experiment because of how completely done any backers were with the whole prospect. John Lily is the sole reason I say "almost" everyone, because honestly he deserves literally all the shit we can pile on him even if he did better later on.
He did a lot of shitty things but all anyone will remember is "haha pp" part. Maybe we should leave animals alone for the next couple hundred years and focus on studying animal behaviours in ourselves first (and hopefully getting some self-awareness and understanding of what is human consciousness and what is animal instincts, and learn to keep them in check)
I still would've quit if somebody told me to jack off a dolphin. Knowing that, I hope she attempted to quit or thought about quiting but then didn't because she's stuck on an island. I hope she did try to get off that island. But I guess I wasn't there so who knows
You fail to realize each and every person was committed until it was too late each and every person did what they wanted and pleased every person involved is weird as shit Margaret the most cause she beat off a dolphin for her scientific research no one made her do that
Fortunately we won’t leave animals alone. Yes, there has been some shitty and shady experiments, but most of animal experiments are significantly beneficial to human nature. These experiments found cures for diseases, mental conditions, and even improved human health expectancy. Said experiments even allowed a great advance in technology. No, we will not stop these experiments, we must all strive to evolve and improve 😊👍🏿
I love this video because its perfectly mixes your humor and knowledge in a way that adults get the sexual ramifications but little kids don't so the whole family can enjoy your content and not feel left out or robbed in some way good shyt!❤️❤️❤️❤️
Fun Fact: This very experiment on the dolphin partly became the inspiration for the video game series of Ecco the Dolphin, which came out notably on the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, and the Sega Saturn or Dreamcast years later.
For once I knew about a story before it became a video here. Thing is I don’t even remember where the hell I read it in the first place. I only know I came away regretting I did, several braincells shorter and my faith in humanity once again in the gutter
Hey. Dolphins arent just mindless pleasure-junkies that don't care who they hurt. They have good drug ettiquette. They chomp a defenseless puffer fish to get high on its toxins, then sling it to another dolphin to catch and chew. Puffer, puffer, pass.
I haven't even watched yet, just wanted to say I'm subscribed to a lot of RUclipsrs, but you are the only one I instantly click when I get a notification, you keep your facts straight 99.9 percent of the time and you are hilarious to watch! I'd still watch your videos even if it was just random facts!
I appreciate that you didn't demonize Margaret as some sort of beastiality-freak. She was clearly just trying to do what she was told, and had a genuine care for the dolphin.
Nah, I'm pretty sure she wasn't told to give a dolphin a happy ending. You can care about something deeply without crossing a line as clear cut as that one.
Wow. Is there ANYTHING that a woman won't be exonerated for? She sexually abused an animal. That's sick & so are you if you excuse that behaviour. Many sick & evil deeds are done in the name of science
@@josephsalmonte4995 THANK YOU oh my God I thought i was the crazy one scrolling through the comments. this isn't the only idiot pretending she had no agency and decision making capabilities.
@@CRAgamer The internet is full of it mate. Even when women kill babies the comment section is always "she was in pain. She must have suffered to do that" etc... It's fucking sick & weird. I wouldn't abuse an animal or a person in the name of a science OR by following orders
Thank you not only for this video, but for letting me know about that episode of Drunk History, which I immediately found and watched after yours. They should be giving you a cut of their monetization the uptick in traffic you're giving them now.
Thank you. Very informative vid. That dolphin’s story needed to be told as a public service. That was an ugly insight into mankind’s potential for depravity. I don’t what else I could express about this story. Well done and thoughtfully presented sir. Thank you again.
To put things in perspective, I was watching a video of a horror artist corrupting a coloring book when I got the notification for this video. As soon as I saw the title, I let out a loud, "OH NO..." because I knew exactly what experiment you were talking about. On a lighter note, it finally convinced me to actually pause and see the opening art.
They were also test acid on us soldiers in Vietnam trying to make super soldiers. The movie Jacob ladder is about that. It made soldiers stronger, able to stay awake long periods of time. But down side was seeing things, they even had high rates of friendly fire deaths
this was a really sad video, holy cow. do you think in the future (or here if you still want to) you could add citations or something? it would be really helpful both for cementing your facts and also for helping folks who want to explore your sources more of themselves
I cried at 6:30 🤣😭 this entire video broadened my perspective on animal communication and collaboration thank you for making this. I can tell this took time to make so comprehensive.
There's so much to this story (I'm sure having researched it you *KNOW* that) and you did a great job with communicating it to your audience. You did fantastic. Thanks for covering this, it's a fascinating story.
@brianlee 8m devastated by the way they treated that sweet dolphin. The dolphin was intelligent enough to know English. Animals can read our minds. Very few humans can. We are not as gifted as animals. Peter only did it to humour Margaret because h3 loved her. He was so betrayed. .
I love the amount of thought and effort you put into your jokes. The fact that he used sensory deprivation tanks and you saying "what made him Eureka himself" being a reference to Archimedes supposedly saying "Eureka" when he discovered the Archimedes principle.
If I had a nickel for every time someone had a sexual relationship with a dolphin, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. Like, hold on and wait a second, there was more than one person to have a sexual relationship with a dolphin??? MORE THAN ONE?? Like I watched the Malcolm Brenner and Dolly video last year, but I never heard about Margaret Howe Lovatt and Peter until today.
I've heard this story, really glad you covered it. But as to Lilly's experimentations in deprivation tanks, the movie "Altered States" might interest you if you find that.. interesting.
Let's be completely real here, the fact that Margaret was demonized and the actual lead researcher for this experiment was able to continue his career just fine is very upsetting. I feel bad for her, honestly. Genuine question, do you think people would have been nearly as outraged if Margaret were a man? Edit: I had a lot of nice conversations with many compelling arguments from a lot of different people! Thanks for that, but I wasn't expecting there so be so many replies. I can't keep up, so I'm not gonna be responding to them anymore. Feel free to continue discussing with each other though!
@@axain7784 Yes but that's nowadays, back then was much different. I mean, a man straight up had actual intercourse with a dolphin and yet Margaret is much more infamous for this
@@axain7784 We have historical proof a man could do far worse to an animal, and nobody would bat an eyelash. People love to shit on women for the dumbest reasons.
@@valrie1650 EXACTLY!!! That was going to be my next point! There are even rarer cases of people who need to help relieve their female cats when in heat, and obviously this is very uncomfortable but no one should accuse these pet owners of anything that they're accusing Margaret of. Animals have sex, it's just a normal thing, and sometimes the need for it requires human intervention, the only perverted thing is people trying to twist the story into something worse bc they have a dirty mind.
When I hear about someone trying to find out if people can communicate with animals, I think yeah, obviously we can. But it's not us learning how they communicate, and building off of that. No they wanted to teach the animals their language, which is a much harder goal to accomplish.
Probably the only animals you could achieve that with MIGHT be ravens, and that's because they are supposed to have the comprehension of a 7-year old, but even then it would still be a difficult task.
Make that a so far as we know impossible goal. There are no species on this planet the public know about that can communicate with us using written/spoken language.
I can kinda seeing how learning to speak to dolphins would teach us to speak with aliens theoretically. It's like a test run to see if we can communicate with beings that don't share our vocals, exact emotions, or body language
I remember hearing a NPR broadcast where an entomologist was talking about bees, it went something like this, "When I first began my academic career, I thought insects were simple creatures, driven by instinct, but as I spent years studying the brains of creatures like honeybees, I found that the structures were similar to our own brains on a smaller scale. It stands to reason that their minds and thought processes would be similar as well; There is no reason to believe a honeybee is less fulfilled caring for its family and supporting its community than a human being would." It's as good a reason to be kind and respectful to all animals equally as any, rather than singling some out as more intelligent. It's almost like lavishly special attention on a particular kid in class when they just wanna play with their friends.
Bees are known to play, seemingly, just to have fun. Some theorize that it's practice, but an experiment was done where bees were given a choice to go through an empty chamber to get to food, or go through a chamber with balls to get to food. The bees literally chose to go through the ball pit and play around a bit before getting their food 😭 I've got a couple bee tattoos. I really do love them so much and I think that a lot of critters are smarter than we give them credit for. Just in their own ways.
Nah, that's the human thinking too much about bees inserting a part of him in his observations. I guess the lesson is lost to at least 400 people here. Anthropomorphizing animals is non sense.
@@acctsys I hate people who treat humanity like we're separate from nature. Obviously certain animals have different intelligence levels but everything has their strengths and should be treated equally. Those who look at "less intelligent" species as below humans is pure arrogance in my opinion. It's not humanity and animals, we're all forms of life.
This is where the phrase "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should." comes into play.
Nowadays, that could be said of AIs development
@@user-unos111 this can be taken back to the agricultural revolution, the first mistake humans made
@@justadummy8076
Abandon humanity, return to monke
Yes
@@user-unos111 they're scientists.. if their track record is anything to go by.. we literally have nothing to worry about
The seal saying "Get over here" is the cutest and most terrifying thing I've ever heard. 5:48
All I heard was HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY
Yeah because of the voice😀
@@ME-ol9gk I heard "Hey you get over here"
He’s a scorpion main on mk
Sounded either like a 1940s 40-year old fisherman with a brown overcoat, scaly cap, and a big cigar; or Jerma trying to imitate that.
The point you brought up about mimicry is what really floors me about this. Millions of dollars, probably years of work, and no one was like "Hey... How do we know he understands?"
Acid must be a heck of a drug.
it is, and it only has business in my body and the psychological field of science
Casual wasn't capping. *Them 60's were one hell of a time.* X__X
Let's just hope it never gets legalized again. Like Jurassic Park it was with the "best intentions" and "greater good." 2 massive red flags.
That's psychiatry in a nutshell.
@@zionleach3001 I agree with the red flags you identified; "for the greater good" is a blank check that can go dangerously unexamined. However, I don't think the drugs were anywhere near the main problem here. I'm much more concerned with the research ethics. Especially when psychedelics show great promise for the treatment of various mental health problems.
I love that the seal mimicking speech has the voice of a blustery old Englishman! That is just so fitting for some reason.
I can hear the pipe in his mouth and his big old man whiskers XD
Well ya because he was mimicking an old English men
It made me laugh
Reminds me of Vernon dursley. Mustache and all.
@@KpopZuko "Harry! GET OVER HERE!!!" (btw, I'm an ATLA fan too)
"With their high intelligence he figured that if he could find some way to communicate with dolphins that could lead us to find a way to talk to aliens."
Making that leap while high asf must've been SUPER EASY barely an inconvenience.
That's not as far a leap as one might thing. It's basically the idea that how do you communicate with something that has intelligence not to different from your own, but at the same time evolved in an entirely different environment, and biology.
Pitch meeting refs are tight!
I see what reference you did 😏
taking acid and talking to dolphins is tight!
@@BigTuk exactly, it's just the first stepping stone. You're presented with a language that evolved completely outside of human languages and your job is to figure out what they're saying. This experiment just wasn't the right way to go about it. But I remember hearing about an experiment using AI to decode the squeaks of mice.
I admire this man’s ability to read horrible crap and somehow keep the classy demeanor we all know
YOUR INCREDIBLE BRO!!!
He probably gotta shower and read the bible and pray for a couple of hours afterwards lol
you're
@@Video70584 no >:3
@@jonathanclayden8331 cringe
@@toniotrussardi8126 how is correcting someone's spelling cringe exactly?
You’d think a scientist would realize the simple fact that dolphin vocal structures couldn’t form human sounds.
history seems to repeat itself in that regard huh, thought we learnt this when it came to apes and dogs
You would.... wouldn't you. You are overestimating some people.
This is when you have high intelligence but zero wisdom
Considering parrots have a syrinx and not a larynx and yet can produce human sounds, it wasn’t THAT big of leap. They just do it in a different way.
You ever hear someone say "they're so smart, they're stupid" about a genius?
Dude was high on acid. He wasn't thinking straight
Man, the idea where putting two dolphins in separate tanks yet still had a way to communicate to each other to learn their language could of been way more ground breaking than law breaking.
Hoover the seal sounds like the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who thinks he’s funnier than he actually is.
That sounds hella personal.
This!
Sounds like Jerma
R/oddlyspecific
@@padhle_chinmay r/IUseReddit
When my friends say dolphins are their favourite animal I just say that they do unspeakable things to almost everything
all I hear is the musik from Let get it started
Why so many bots 😭
Edit: I meant bots but fuggin autocorrect doesn’t believe in robots
That’s why they’re my favorite
The bots 💀
Unspeakable, but apparently not unthinkable.
Fun fact: the guy who "had relations" with Dolly is named Malcolm Brenner. The only reason I know that is because he is an alum from the college I attended. He even has a number like Kevin Bacon, but it's called the Dolphin Number. Did I mention that I hate knowing this?
We talked about this experiment in my Psychology classes because it happened next door in the USVI. Too bad brain bleach isn't an actual thing (how did this happen twice?)
That's embarrassing. The same dude who tried to eff his family dog as a teenager. He's a POS in my opinion.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour Agreed.
thanks i hate it
When I was interviewing for grad school I had an interview with a doctor named Malcolm Brenner who very insistently included his middle name. I googled him to learn about his work before I talked to him and that was the first time I found out about the dolphin guy and understood why the person I interviewed with made sure to include his middle name.
It's so bizarre that they never questioned if a dolphin could physically make English word sounds. My dog knows what several words mean, but it would never occur to me that I could get her to actually speak back.
One word: Drugs
They never tried teaching them Morse code? Or gave them different buttons to press that said different words?
I can't believe you and every liker thinks thats true
Shit, English is probably the hardest thing you could teach them with. English has a lot of weird sounds that don't occur in other languages, like "th" and the way we say our "r"s.
I know this is a weird take, but I super appreciate the compassion you showed the young woman and the dolphin in this.
She's not young anymore
@Secret I'm guessing that's a rick roll link but I am way too much of a coward to find out
Seconded. It's easy to hop on the sensationalist bandwagon and talk shit about a situation for clout. It's another thing to model journalistic integrity and portray the people in a story as complex individuals who are usually just doing their best.
You're a weirdo you acting like what she did was normal and fine
@@Drekromancer she wanted to fuck a dolphin, nothing's gonna excuse that shit. Beastality is not ok
Video suggestion: It would be awesome if you could do a mention if you could do a video mentioning Zalim the Tiger, a tiger who successfully raised his two daughters after the death of their mother, and was so protective of them that he even turned down mating with other females in order to make sure they were safe.
Wow 😮
This sounds interesting 🤔
A story I would like to hear too
Could teach some human fathers a thing or two, damn
@@SobrietyandSolace Ironically, not much needs to be taught. Single fathers tend to be better at raising stable adults than single mothers.
@@supremecaffeine2633 source: trust me bro
@@angelskyy6574 Federal crime stats. The overwhelming majority of criminals come from single mother households.
Nice try.
6:56 “Mimicry isn’t comprehension”
I was a victim of that when I first used “WTF” at 11 years old.
Same for me with “douchebag”
I feel like we should create a language kinda like morse code for dolphins. See if we could actually have a conversation with one. I hate it when I see people say, "look my animal can talk." When in reality the defintion of talk is not to just make a noise that sounds like a word. But to give information, express Ideas and feelings with words. It's litteraly the defintion, so they aren't talking at all.
At this point we'd have a more riveting conversation with an A.I.
By that definition, there are animals that can talk. Sure a lot of it is copying, without knowing what they're saying, because they get a positive response. But I know of a parrot that would say "this empty", while holding the feeding cup, to communicate that they want food. They are expressing a need with words, so by what you said that qualifies as talking right?
How about dogs or cats that use those word buttons? I'm a bit skeptical about it, but it often does look like they use it to convey a need or idea. They're not.. speaking though.. they press a button to make the sound 🤔
An animal making noises is its way of communicating so yeah in a way they're talking
I'm your 300th liker here & bye.
probably because the goal was always get funding, and have sex with interns. Why do people have this strange reverence for scientists?
Man I love your channel.
Not only are you charmingly funny you're highly informative, a deadly combination.
Get a room lol
Not to mention he is honest. BRUTALLY honest
Perfect wording “charmingly funny” as he’s not (Dying of laughter type) funny, but he’s chuckle typa funny
Yeah, but I miss the hood name and the low budget camera phone resolution and choppy 5th grade camera cuts. The only thing remaining that's original is the iphone ear buds mic holding. It's amazing the amount of subs and only recently changing to be a bit more professional. I'd praise it, but I appreciated the save every penny budget.
I once told my family this story over Thanksgiving dinner.
They told me to never share at family events ever again.
You’re invited to all my family invites if you share things like this
Uhh you looking for a new family? Food will be provided on us if you wanna stop by on Thanksgiving lol
So whose house is Thanksgiving this year fam?
Man, I love seeing how much you've grown as a channel, how you've advanced as a writer & host. Witnessing you perfect your craft is fantastic, keep it up.
Omg stop the bots!!!
#StopTheBot
And he uses horizontal wide-screen!
Except he completely misrepresented this story and made it look way worse than it actually was.
@@lawka2699 Make your own video then. He can interpret and represent the story however he pleases.
The fact that Lilly got funded over the guy who suggested trying to understand actual dolphin communication pretty much describes the 60's to a tee. That must have been some crazy good acid. 😂
Lilly shared his acid with everyone but George Bateson ig
To be fair though, decoding the language of another intelligent species that lives on earth is still a reasonable practice run for decoding an alien language, even though this particular experiment was a mess lol
At least we now know that giving aliens drugs and jacking them off won’t help them understand English
Not that that’ll stop some people from trying
I do agree.
Ya but that's not what they did 😂That wasn't even really the plan
There's one detail I just noticed now. Casual literally said LSD in so many ways that no one noticed. He said certain phrases that if you abbreviated, would spell LSD and I bet my left sack that it was 100% intentional.
We have
-The actual meaning (LySergic Acid Diethylamide)
-Little Slice of Delight
-Lovely Saturday Drive
-Little Sense of Direction
-Light Seasoning of Dope
All of these are things he said in the video and they all can be shortened to spell out LSD. I bet it was intentional.
[Edit 11 months later: I forgot "Little Surprise Dose" as the replies mentioned, my bad.]
Omg I didn't pick up on that. Thank you so much
ahh thanks for this
👌
Casual is the king of slang and analogies, his mastery of comedic wording is one of the reasons for his channels appeal. His scripts are 100% thought out.
Lol YES, i was hoping someone else picked up on that
John C Lilly is one of these scientists that belong to the category I call "Madman in a labcoat".
"Because you can doesn't always mean you should", and this story illustrates this perfectly
Many of the greatest accomplishments in history were achieved by "madmen in labcoats". Besides, anyone responsible for Ecco The Dolphin can't be that bad......
The seal clip made me realise why so many seamen went crazy on the ocean…krakens and human voices even though you’re the only one awake and on deck.
My sanity would also shit the bed if I heard “hey hey get over here” from the mist
shit man, I'd be questioning my sanity just seeing an oarfish or some shit, then you hear a goddamn mustached seal talking?
John c. lily was so high on acid that he started to believe that there was an alien council seeking to help him in his mission to teach dolphins english, and after some time the alien council that he hallucinated started to say that he was using too much acid, his own acid induced hallucinations wanted him to stop taking acid.
Is this true?
@@unknown-mw4gm its on RUclips, so it must be.
amazing
When your hallucinations want you to stop getting high, you know you have a problem
Speaking as a believer in science, there are some experiments and studies where even I think "Come on guys, what the fuck?"
This channel deserves a lot more attention - it's such an excellent blend of education and comedy and I worship the shit out of it 🥰
I swear some of this shit is done with the mindset of "This is stupid, but at least it will make for a fun fact or story 50 or so years down the line."
Science doesn't need you to believe in it, it is not a god.
@@jcmick8430 You know what I meant, dude; stop nitpicking 😄
Bro everyone is a "believer in science," it's literally science. The only few that deny it are room temperature IQ pigeons that want to feel special by denying literal facts.
I'm a scientist and I often think "wtf people" when reading some works
Fun Fact: Eventually Dr. Lily was tripping balls so hard that even his hallucinated alien contacts were telling him to quit the drugs.
How funny would it be if those aliens weren't hallucinations (at least that one time) and just wanted him to stop acting crazy
Yeah... sort of like Whitley Strieber saying people "on the other side" are getting sick of him crossing over.
That ain't fair. How come people tried to capitalise on Margaret's situation by presenting her as a zoophile even though all the stuff she did was solely for the experiment alone. Meanwhile, the acid tripping old geezer who had all the recognition from her efforts and dedication never got as much public backlash as she did.
Yeah... For the experiment...😐
Take it from me, people will unjustly capitalize on any situation if it's weird/gross/vulgar enough. This relationship has been sensationalized to death. MHL was dealing with Peter's sexual urges in a perfectly logical way, for a dolphin. Her problem was she couldn't keep up with teaching him English as fast as he would have liked it! I've had this problem with dolphins too: they do not suffer boredom gladly!
Because as far as we know, no one forced her to have sex with a Dolphin. And if that was her answer to the "problem", then it does indeed make her a zoophile by action if not attraction.
Because women are easy targets
Margaret who?
Also I need to mention that during the experiment most of the time he was in the sensory deprivation tank on acid. He did this to talk to psychic aliens who would give him advice during the experiment. I could not make that up even if I tried.
This "scientist" is seriously starting to remind me of a friend of mine. :/
😬😬😬😬
men moment
@@Anonymous-bi5pv nah bro, goofy ahh scientists in the 1960s moment
Step one: Talk to dolphins 🐬
Step two:
Step three: Talk to aliens 👽
Step four:
Step five: Profit
Oh! Don't forget the Acid and LSD!
And the handjobs. Can’t forget the handjobs.
Step four: Fuck aliens
5 stages of logic
@@Foogi9000 Step zero: Get super high 🚬
It is the way that people treat animals that truly show how cruel we can be. These poor dolphins. They asked for none of this. Used abused and discarded. With committing suicide as the only option to escape this nightmare. Not even in the worst horror movies could we describe even a fraction of what is done to animals in the name of science.
Just look up the pit of despair...
There's a reason I very much dislike a majority of human beings. Especially the ones trying to justify shit like that for "science"
@@jayswrld666fr
some of these kids need less screen time
Way too sheltered, worried about some dolphins. Yeah… _thats_ what defines us..
you’re basing your perception of modern science off of a bizarre, lone, and undoubtedly unethical experiment done in the 1960’s? go outside.
@@jayswrld666 Ah yes. Animal abuse and pushing an innocent dolphin to suicide to escape captivity isn't showing of human cruelty. Really wacky take man.
@@northamerica5142 it is animal abuse,but if you think "innocent" ever applies to dolphins,then you know nothing of dolphins
The way animals suffer because of the human ego really pisses me off the fact that I'm not even a neuroscientist and even I thought why try to make an animal do something it isn't even built to do.
You can't just show us that seals can mimic speech, without going into more detail
Oh he actually did in a previous video. The thing is I can't remember the specific one.
i was mindblown as well lol
They shoulda came up with their own language in clicks, squeaks, and whistles. They could have easily used something to make those types of noises, although it wouldn't be directly from the person. If given enough context, I think the dolphins could have learned it as long as they created a well formed, thought out, limited vocabulary language.
That's asking a lot from the 1960s and a man who was higher than the dolphins themselves.
@@Foogi9000 Yeah man, unfortunately you got a strong point and probably an explanation for why not.
It might be hard to tell if you’re really “talking” to the animals or just teaching them to associate certain sounds with food, but building off their own sounds seems like the obvious first step.
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 facts
Very sad and traumatic, thank you for your hard work, this story gets worse each time you hear it. 🇨🇦🍁
Why are there so many bots
Atrocity Guide did a video on the experiment too and she found interviews from other people who worked with Lilly on this experiment. They were ALL servicing those dolphins!!!
Interesting
I don't remember that from that video. Not at all. Peter Dolphin and Margaret shared a special bond, she said so. Dolphins are capable of far greater emotional investment than "civilized" humans. I've had one kill herself on me; I was 1,500 miles away, and a dolphin nightmare left me gasping for breath. That's entanglement you don't ordinarily have with other humans.
They also sexually assaulted them. Bestiality at its worst
"Hindsight is 2020 and unfortunately this was the 1960's" damn that's a good one
Ah, the sixties…a decade I’m very happy I wasn’t involved with.
Honestly same, it just seems like an absolutely wild time period.
Imagine what people will think about 2020 in a decade or two.
@@spottedslash4256 I saw someone make a comment somewhere about these years going down in history as "The Dumb Ages".
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should!" - Dr. Ian Malcolm (Jurassic Park)
There was also a project for animals to learn human speech from a beluga whale. In fact this beluga spoke an uncanny human voice so well that a scientist once went to his tank and heard Get Out multiple times. Before leaving he talked to the observing scientists on why they said to get off but they said the beluga whale said it. There is an audio out on the internet of the beluga speaking. Honestly amazing stuff. Thanks science!
That's not the entire story.
The entire story was that they discovered this because the director of the tank cleaning crew always only said "Get out" or "Out".
Using what is essentially an underwater speaker.
Can you guess how they figured out the beluga learnt? Exactly, a diver exited the tank, thinking bossman told him to get out.
This happened multiple times until they noticed the Beluga saying it
This story has been told SO many times. But none as entertaining as this. Great job! Love your work.
agree
"Logic had real estate in his blind spot" dude you're an absolute linguist lmao you're so good at that
I'm 57, and I remember a lot of my childhood. I remember the 60's and 70's being interesting times, so this video doesn't surprise me in the least.
I started crying at 5:50. It sounded like a disgruntled Scottish man yelling at someone 😂
The overall quality of video you provided have gotten better and better. Most youtubers find a method and stick with it but you have progressively gotten better over time. Bravo!
Definitely, it's consistently high grade content that only seems to improve. He's got the formula down.
imagine you’re out in the ocean swimming and you you a high-pitched “hello”+gurgling noise out of nowhere 💀
I love that you mentioned that the dolphin Peter caught feelings. It's an important distinction many people just don't want to associate with animals in general. And yes I liked the video 😄😂. Keep it up. Luv luv
I kind of wish he never mentioned it 💀💀💀💀💀💀, they weren't paying her anything for this and she still went ham on the experiment 💀💀
U wyts are nasty 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 don't expect anything but nasty from y'all
We could literally teach dolphins morse under water. The blowhole to English path was chosen because of the alien aspect
I still feel like one could realize that communicating with another species in morse would still work better than this.
Considering you say you don't know what you are doing, you are doing it excellently. 👌🏾
It's all about confidence.
Aside from the messed up shit that came after, at 3:31 that has got to be the cutest sound ever. Also sounds like the Splatoons sounds they make
I know right!! The Splatoon sounds are so cute! 🥰
I feel so bad for (almost) everyone involved.
Margaret deserved better than to have her legacy be "The woman who jacked off a dolphin" since honestly I feel like the fact that a dolphin basically pair-bonded with a human woman is the most interesting aspect of psychology we got out of this (Edit, the fact that lily's work also taught us more about dolphins in general is also pretty neat). And if it weren't for this legacy she probably would've been a much more successful scientist today than John Lily ever was.
Peter deserved better than to be abandoned and left in shitty conditions while ALSO being heartbroken to the point that killing himself was better than living whatever hell he was thrown into (And really the cruelty towards dolphins IN GENERAL is pathetic considering they're supposedly "The smartest things that aren't people". Like bro, treat them better even if they're in captivity.)
Greg Bateson deserved better than being stuck in an experiment that was guaranteed to fail from the start and watch this whole circus play out, and also the fact that he probably couldn't even get his "what if we learned Dolphin instead" experiment because of how completely done any backers were with the whole prospect.
John Lily is the sole reason I say "almost" everyone, because honestly he deserves literally all the shit we can pile on him even if he did better later on.
He did a lot of shitty things but all anyone will remember is "haha pp" part. Maybe we should leave animals alone for the next couple hundred years and focus on studying animal behaviours in ourselves first (and hopefully getting some self-awareness and understanding of what is human consciousness and what is animal instincts, and learn to keep them in check)
I still would've quit if somebody told me to jack off a dolphin. Knowing that, I hope she attempted to quit or thought about quiting but then didn't because she's stuck on an island. I hope she did try to get off that island. But I guess I wasn't there so who knows
You fail to realize each and every person was committed until it was too late each and every person did what they wanted and pleased every person involved is weird as shit Margaret the most cause she beat off a dolphin for her scientific research no one made her do that
@@jayswrld666 no proof, but the men could of pressured her as a woman to do instead of “everyone’s chore”. We probably don’t know all the details.
Fortunately we won’t leave animals alone. Yes, there has been some shitty and shady experiments, but most of animal experiments are significantly beneficial to human nature. These experiments found cures for diseases, mental conditions, and even improved human health expectancy. Said experiments even allowed a great advance in technology. No, we will not stop these experiments, we must all strive to evolve and improve 😊👍🏿
“You can do better Peter” SHUT UP MARGRET HES TRYING HIS GOD DAMN BEST 😭😭
5:54 that's exactly what I'd imagine a human sounds like to an animal. brahbrahbrahlahblah
I love this video because its perfectly mixes your humor and knowledge in a way that adults get the sexual ramifications but little kids don't so the whole family can enjoy your content and not feel left out or robbed in some way good shyt!❤️❤️❤️❤️
@the hevy No but kids still watch him and I assume aren't bothered by the cursing
The censorship is just so he doesn't get demonetized it's not for kids Lol
its astounding that so many people supported this project and none of them stopped to think "hey how the fuck are dolphins supposed to speak to us?"
I will say that it is kinda wholesome how Margaret tried to defend Peter from the whole drug nonsense
Yet She SAd him..
You are delulu 😂 she is a monster too
@@gostavoadolfos2023 emphasis on the "kinda"
@@mroffice8166 said the zoo glorifyer
@@vanilla.editzz You must be an athlete, becuase you are a master at jumping to conclusions
5:50 Bruh. I have never laughed so hard in my entire life 😂😂😂😂😂
I almost ruptured my lungs after hearing that seal
That seal said "GET OVER HERE"🤣
Sound like some prospector from the hills of West Virginia
Get over here ahahahahaha
Nah that almost made me cry, that's the most terrifying sound I've ever heard 😭😭😭
It's probably a demon trapped in the seal
Fun Fact: This very experiment on the dolphin partly became the inspiration for the video game series of Ecco the Dolphin, which came out notably on the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, and the Sega Saturn or Dreamcast years later.
Lol You beat me to it! I read about that ages ago and was super disturbed by the experiments. Poor Peter. :(
@SakuraMoonflower yeah and Peter's vocal lessons sound way too similar to Splatoon's voice lines. WOOMY!
Interesting tidbit lol need to see the interviews on that one 😂
Beat me to it too! My favorite games from the genesis. Loved the 3d one too.
For once I knew about a story before it became a video here. Thing is I don’t even remember where the hell I read it in the first place. I only know I came away regretting I did, several braincells shorter and my faith in humanity once again in the gutter
Hey. Dolphins arent just mindless pleasure-junkies that don't care who they hurt. They have good drug ettiquette. They chomp a defenseless puffer fish to get high on its toxins, then sling it to another dolphin to catch and chew.
Puffer, puffer, pass.
@@Volyren Depends on which one, and where, honestly.
This is so sad 😢 unfortunately things like this haven’t stopped
4:35 give the dolphin credit for using the water surface as a medium of articulation... He used the water to mimic an "L" sound.
I haven't even watched yet, just wanted to say I'm subscribed to a lot of RUclipsrs, but you are the only one I instantly click when I get a notification, you keep your facts straight 99.9 percent of the time and you are hilarious to watch!
I'd still watch your videos even if it was just random facts!
Same
What the helI is happening?
@@twowheeledadventures you've been attacked by bots.
@@craniccrashir6929 They are just lovely 🤣
As Roosterteeth so eloquently said many years ago...
Burnie: "What did they think the dolphins would say?"
Dolphin: "More handjobs!"
4:03
"The literal is coming...
Like Peter."
MAN IM WHEEZING
I’ll never get sick of these videos lol.
Hope you guys enjoy it! I’ll pass.
I appreciate that you didn't demonize Margaret as some sort of beastiality-freak. She was clearly just trying to do what she was told, and had a genuine care for the dolphin.
People are so quick to demonize others for a quick hit of feel good huh? I appreciate your appreciation of his compassion c:
Nah, I'm pretty sure she wasn't told to give a dolphin a happy ending. You can care about something deeply without crossing a line as clear cut as that one.
Wow. Is there ANYTHING that a woman won't be exonerated for? She sexually abused an animal. That's sick & so are you if you excuse that behaviour. Many sick & evil deeds are done in the name of science
@@josephsalmonte4995 THANK YOU oh my God I thought i was the crazy one scrolling through the comments. this isn't the only idiot pretending she had no agency and decision making capabilities.
@@CRAgamer The internet is full of it mate. Even when women kill babies the comment section is always "she was in pain. She must have suffered to do that" etc... It's fucking sick & weird. I wouldn't abuse an animal or a person in the name of a science OR by following orders
I had no idea that seals could mimic human speech. I legit screamed "DEMON SEAL" when I heard that audio.
Hearing that was VERY uncanny valley... :(
@@nataliet8149 I know right?!
to me it was just the average geezer
ok the baby dolphin counting to 3 was so cute i almost cried
11:55 "Don't ask questions you aren't prepared to handle the answers to." -Mrs. Puff
Thank you not only for this video, but for letting me know about that episode of Drunk History, which I immediately found and watched after yours. They should be giving you a cut of their monetization the uptick in traffic you're giving them now.
11:23 science doesn’t go too far. People do
Thank you. Very informative vid. That dolphin’s story needed to be told as a public service. That was an ugly insight into mankind’s potential for depravity. I don’t what else I could express about this story. Well done and thoughtfully presented sir. Thank you again.
Hey, when it comes to depravity I hate to disillusion you, but the dolphins are not slouches at it either!
To put things in perspective, I was watching a video of a horror artist corrupting a coloring book when I got the notification for this video.
As soon as I saw the title, I let out a loud, "OH NO..." because I knew exactly what experiment you were talking about.
On a lighter note, it finally convinced me to actually pause and see the opening art.
Jordan Persegati?
Was it Jordan Persegati's new video? Because I had the same experience XD
-A dolphin sounds like an anime girl
-A seal sound like a sailor
- a bird sounds like an old farmer
They were also test acid on us soldiers in Vietnam trying to make super soldiers. The movie Jacob ladder is about that. It made soldiers stronger, able to stay awake long periods of time. But down side was seeing things, they even had high rates of friendly fire deaths
Wasn't just on U.S Soldiers., oh and btw they used to dose up the food in WW1 with saltpeter to stop the troops being horny while away from home.
this was a really sad video, holy cow. do you think in the future (or here if you still want to) you could add citations or something? it would be really helpful both for cementing your facts and also for helping folks who want to explore your sources more of themselves
The rabbit hole joke made me laugh way too loud 😭
Good work as always ! 🔥
Improved quality, same spirit. The man never lost track of his roots. Incredible
Hell yeah 👌
One of my favorite things with your channel is when I know the story but still can't wait for you to adapt it.
"They aren't involuntary breathers like us, every breath they take is a conscious choice."
...
_One of us is breathing wrong._
I cried at 6:30 🤣😭 this entire video broadened my perspective on animal communication and collaboration thank you for making this. I can tell this took time to make so comprehensive.
There's so much to this story (I'm sure having researched it you *KNOW* that) and you did a great job with communicating it to your audience. You did fantastic. Thanks for covering this, it's a fascinating story.
@im sacred Nope. I was not looking for a way to make potato wedges.
4:32 Peter sounds so cute! 🥺 He doesn’t deserve to be treated like this
@brianlee 8m devastated by the way they treated that sweet dolphin. The dolphin was intelligent enough to know English. Animals can read our minds. Very few humans can. We are not as gifted as animals. Peter only did it to humour Margaret because h3 loved her. He was so betrayed. .
I love the amount of thought and effort you put into your jokes. The fact that he used sensory deprivation tanks and you saying "what made him Eureka himself" being a reference to Archimedes supposedly saying "Eureka" when he discovered the Archimedes principle.
That dolphin at the start knows the phrase* "if there is a hole there is a goal" phrase very well
The way the guys just stand back and let it happen 🤣
Nah they know y'all wyts are nasty ASF and will have seggs w fire ants
The king of Wildlife RUclips. I wish I could be as good as u are. What a great inspiration.
If I had a nickel for every time someone had a sexual relationship with a dolphin, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Like, hold on and wait a second, there was more than one person to have a sexual relationship with a dolphin??? MORE THAN ONE?? Like I watched the Malcolm Brenner and Dolly video last year, but I never heard about Margaret Howe Lovatt and Peter until today.
Bruh i can assure you that definetly much more than two people have done that, they Just didnt tell nobody
And the one's we know about should be shot
@@datzfatz2368 lol, i already assumed that, I just don't wanna hear any more stories about it
@@robinz99 yeah I don't want to be rich off this, I just want it to stop. Poor dolphins.
@@audraknoll7842 Poor dolphins? I take it u never heard stories about dolphins trying to molest divers (and I think there was 1 video of that too😬)
I've heard this story, really glad you covered it. But as to Lilly's experimentations in deprivation tanks, the movie "Altered States" might interest you if you find that.. interesting.
Let's be completely real here, the fact that Margaret was demonized and the actual lead researcher for this experiment was able to continue his career just fine is very upsetting. I feel bad for her, honestly.
Genuine question, do you think people would have been nearly as outraged if Margaret were a man?
Edit: I had a lot of nice conversations with many compelling arguments from a lot of different people! Thanks for that, but I wasn't expecting there so be so many replies. I can't keep up, so I'm not gonna be responding to them anymore. Feel free to continue discussing with each other though!
People would definitely be a lot more outraged because... Well, it's males. It's hip and cool to hate males nowadays, much to my dismay.
@@axain7784 Yes but that's nowadays, back then was much different. I mean, a man straight up had actual intercourse with a dolphin and yet Margaret is much more infamous for this
@@axain7784 We have historical proof a man could do far worse to an animal, and nobody would bat an eyelash. People love to shit on women for the dumbest reasons.
People dunk on her then turn around and drink cows milk, produced using artificial insemination which was acquired somehow through human intervention
@@valrie1650 EXACTLY!!! That was going to be my next point! There are even rarer cases of people who need to help relieve their female cats when in heat, and obviously this is very uncomfortable but no one should accuse these pet owners of anything that they're accusing Margaret of. Animals have sex, it's just a normal thing, and sometimes the need for it requires human intervention, the only perverted thing is people trying to twist the story into something worse bc they have a dirty mind.
When I hear about someone trying to find out if people can communicate with animals, I think yeah, obviously we can. But it's not us learning how they communicate, and building off of that. No they wanted to teach the animals their language, which is a much harder goal to accomplish.
Probably the only animals you could achieve that with MIGHT be ravens, and that's because they are supposed to have the comprehension of a 7-year old, but even then it would still be a difficult task.
There's some work on decoding animal noises, playing certain sounds back to produce certain results. Be interesting to see how far that could go.
Make that a so far as we know impossible goal. There are no species on this planet the public know about that can communicate with us using written/spoken language.
" I don't know what I'm gonna do, but it starts with not lying about what happened. It's the Dolphin who outta be ashamed of himself"- Hank Hill.
Jeez, that poor dolphin! I would ask wtf that guy was on, but apparently the answer was everything!
Acid, he was in acid
I can kinda seeing how learning to speak to dolphins would teach us to speak with aliens theoretically. It's like a test run to see if we can communicate with beings that don't share our vocals, exact emotions, or body language
I think the only mistake we didn't make is interspecies compatibility, since humans and dolphins seem to think very similarly.
I remember hearing a NPR broadcast where an entomologist was talking about bees, it went something like this,
"When I first began my academic career, I thought insects were simple creatures, driven by instinct, but as I spent years studying the brains of creatures like honeybees, I found that the structures were similar to our own brains on a smaller scale. It stands to reason that their minds and thought processes would be similar as well; There is no reason to believe a honeybee is less fulfilled caring for its family and supporting its community than a human being would."
It's as good a reason to be kind and respectful to all animals equally as any, rather than singling some out as more intelligent. It's almost like lavishly special attention on a particular kid in class when they just wanna play with their friends.
Bees are known to play, seemingly, just to have fun. Some theorize that it's practice, but an experiment was done where bees were given a choice to go through an empty chamber to get to food, or go through a chamber with balls to get to food. The bees literally chose to go through the ball pit and play around a bit before getting their food 😭
I've got a couple bee tattoos. I really do love them so much and I think that a lot of critters are smarter than we give them credit for. Just in their own ways.
Nah, that's the human thinking too much about bees inserting a part of him in his observations. I guess the lesson is lost to at least 400 people here. Anthropomorphizing animals is non sense.
@@acctsys you must be fun at parties
@@acctsys I hate people who treat humanity like we're separate from nature. Obviously certain animals have different intelligence levels but everything has their strengths and should be treated equally. Those who look at "less intelligent" species as below humans is pure arrogance in my opinion. It's not humanity and animals, we're all forms of life.
@@tacostastegreat5557 Sure thing. Equal rights for mosquitoes and humans!
What a hill to die on, huh? Hate to your heart's content.
Nice video
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Weirdly, one of the most empathetic explorations of this story that I've seen.
I heard of this story before on RUclips but I can’t find the exact video anymore. Excellent upload as always! ❤
I think Atrocity Guide has a video about it.
Maybe the Rooster Teeth podcast idk
ruclips.net/video/prmx0lYBTko/видео.html
not only does this dude tell great stories he also has a great taste in music
Your punchlines are IMMACULATE, sir 🧐🤌🏾
4:37 sounds like Splatoon character