Geek, now that DBS has been over for a few months do you think you could make one longer video summing up DBS? You could confirm what we know as hard facts, explain transformation transformations, as well as give people who are trying to get into it an understanding? Also, is SSB2 vegeta stronger than SSBKx20 Goku?
Dan Kn Hit had a pretty big character development. Vegeta didn't really have a character development as big as hit until now. But Vegeta did (in z) have the best character development which made Vegeta my favorite character but super made him lose some of that development
Am I the only one that thinks this? 1. Vegeta has trained in super sayin blue longer than goku. Vegeta is more proficient at using blue compared to Goku. 2. Vegeta trained longer with Whis. 3. Vegeta pushed ssjbss to its max. Goku has not trained as hard as Vegeta because goku pushed ssjbss with using kaioken. 4. When goku came back to earth to recruit for the tournament of power. He didn't really train. He sparred with his team. Except Vegeta. Vegeta went to the hyperbolic time chamber to push ssjbss to its max knowing that goku has kaioken. Something changed Vegeta in the time chamber. No denying that. 5. The spirit bomb can't work on any opponents because the spirit bomb was ment to defeat evil. If there is evil in your heart. The bomb will destroy you. The only evil doer that did not die from a full blown spirit bomb was Frieza. 6. Whis gave Vegeta all the tools and the will to surpass his limits. Whis stated numerous times that Vegeta can be stronger than goku. As long as he knows how to control his Ki. He has the potential to be more powerful than beerus. 7. I could be wrong. But that is my Vegeta logic. Thank you.
@TheMilks GoneBad, I especially like how you said Vegeta uses Blue to its full extent, where as Goku uses Kaioken rather than pushing it with Blue alone.
No point of contention. Vegeta caring about Cabba makes sense. Learning to love his family taught him how to care about others, and makes the loss of his entire race even more of a blow to him. He has a chance to fix that now.
You know how it went. As soon cabba called vegeta "sensei", vegeta went full "never in my life i needed something so much and never knew it until i received it"
It doesn't take a lot of explanation. Vegeta has grown up. He actually has become a noble character, and a pretty decent dad in the process. Remember, and a lot of people just don't get this, Dragonball is a story of redemption from the very beginning, and on many, many, levels.
Charles Seale I like the analysis though. It gives you a better explanation of the different reasons and motivation Vegeta had to break thru his shell, and better than Goku that just wants to be stronger than whoever is in front of him, boom you get UI.
Charles Seale i think that thanks to universe 6 saiyans Vegeta has matured, he is starting to embrace responsibilities, growing out his role of prince and accepting that of king. At least this is the development i would love him to have, from spoiled prince to wise and responsible king.
First off im impressed at the writers for building up to these very moments where Vegeta and Goku finally COME TOGETHER and find there dreams down different paths! I don’t think Vegeta will find Ultra persay, but he will stay on Par with Goku
I think he'll learn Ultra Instinct too by training with Goku. I believe that's the only way for Vegeta to finally bury the hatchet and end their rivalry. It makes sense (to me, at least) because we thought that Ultra Instinct has two modes (offensive and defensive, which I believe is the early stage of UI). If Vegeta can learn how to hit a UI Goku, that would only mean he's unlocked the offense version of UI and just develop it to master it as a whole.
The emotion from losing his prodigy in Cubba and the other sayains honestly it's amazing character development....not out of rage but out of pure need. (Saving his sayians).
I think they should call this Super Saiyan Royal Blue, since it's an exclusive transformation for him & it's still blue, a sharper, stronger one. Also, I don't watch too many people who do these info videos, & some have a tendency to yell in theirs for some reason. I was recommended to you approximately a year or so ago by a viewer/mod of mine; no regrets w/ the subscription. I like how you hand out the information, especially in a chill manner, & at some points insert some comedy like you've done once or twice now. Keep up the good work, man. Cheers.
Isaiah Roertson You sound ignorant, go away. You clearly weren't paying attention to the episode to know how strong Vegeta's new form is at bare minimum
I like the name many are giving it: Ultra Super Saiyan Blue. It sorta fits the transformation, and seems like a reference to Ultra Super Saiyan. I don't think this will be Vegeta's full limit though, as this seems more like it's just to get him something on the level of SSBlue Kaioken Goku. I think we will probably see a new transformation for Vegeta later, whether it's Ultra Instinct or something equivalent. I just hope this is the start of them finally making Vegeta and Goku different from each other and not having them be carbon copies. I like the idea of them both having different potentials and I want to see them expand on this.
Well, of course it's not his full limit. He'll get more powerful in the next arc. And the arc after that. And the arc after that, and so on and so forth until Super ends.
It wouldn't surprise me if they did it as a reference to Super Vegeta. I know I'm not the only one that found Super Vegeta to be pretty much an icon in the Cell Saga and found it to be their favorite moments for Vegeta. Plus it sorta made sense. Kaioken SSBlue was a callback to Goku and giving him a modified Super Saiyan Blue with something people knew, so it would make sense to do the same for Vegeta since Goku never really used the Ultra form in battle.
Geekdom... you are the best dragonball analyst I have ever watched on this entire planet dude no exaggeration. I would love to have you as someone to help direct the series.
Goku has always been my favorite character since dragon Ball, but man ever since majin buu saga Vegeta slowly started to become my favorite his character development is amazing
Same here. Was always a huge Goku over everybody fan. Now I'm rooting for Vegeta all the time. May be partially due to the Japanese version of Goku though. The Funi dub version of Goku is less retarded and careless most of the time.
I been binge watching you for two days subscribed yesterday. You have turned this anime for me into something so much deeper that I knew was there but couldn’t articulate in my head as well I could for shows like NARUTO or BLEACH.
Old video but, I'm just now watching it for some reason. I've followed you for a long time and I really love some of the points you've made over the years. Keep it up man, you've got one of the best communities in the fandom.
Just... damn Geekdom, very good video. This is why I like your channel man, you dissect every bit of what make a character themselves and explain it comprehensively in an extremely well edited video.
Brilliant. You are becoming one of my favourite RUclipsr’s. I’m just waiting until “Limit Breaker Blue” Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Goku take on Jirren together.
Vegeta is so popular because of the same reason Gohan is because they have the most character development he changed over the years of the series which gives it a reality and makes him more appealing that's why he's my favorite character he has way more human ways then goku
I'M WATCHING U of course the main character will be popular but vegeta just like gohan we've watched them grow over the years and change as the series progresses which attracts them as a character goku just fights and eats
YNK Zeno This is very true but I just feel that Goku should never really change ever since dragon ball hes just that kid who always wants to fight snd become the strongest and thats why we all love him
Another classic video. Your content is great that’s one of he reasons I started following. But your respect for your followers is amazing. Keep up the content
U6 Saiyans Are Asspulls that’s what I was thinking too, like Zeno wants those universes gone, I don’t think he’s going to just accept them being brought back.
Geekdom101 How do you know? It doesn't seem stronger to me as of right now. That could turn out to be the case but no one knows yet. Aren't you the same guy who said regular ssb Vegeta was stronger than Ssb Goku?
I love all your videos. So happy to have followed you man . I usually leave you playing in background because your topics are great to think about while going about the day !
great video man vegeta's redemption at the end of the buu arc really endeared him to people even more still one of my favorites of the entire show and roshi but for different reasons
I don't think that people are talking about this, but I'm wondering is Piccolo sensing his energy, or just observing it? If he's sensing it, what happened to not being able to sense god ki? Also, what happened to raising ki within their bodies to avoid alerting their opponents (as stated by Whis earlier in the series)? It's raging SSB, and SSB Kaio Ken ki all over the place which is alerting Master Roshi! lol
Vegeta is fighting evenly with Goku who is most likely using kaioken x20. So the real question is is Vegetas new powerup/form his answer to Gokus kaioken?
evenly? goku got hit hard and couldnt do anything when jiren fought back while vegeta easily took it and fired a blast at jiren that pushed jiren back a little. seriously do people watch the same show as me or does everyone wanna downplay vegeta
I don't think Kaioken matters that much now. I believe that it's not really a stacking power boost (because we have SSJ transformations for that) but rather an essential mode that makes things more effective. And it does not really mean that it's stronger. Kaioken does twitch things, but I'm pretty sure it does not really fuse with the God power. Think of it as if it was a barbecue. Better meat = stronger ssj transformation. And Kaioken is like the barbecue sauce to me. It does not change the quality of meat but does add flavor into it.
@Rudy Figueroa vegeta royal blue is not like ultra instinct at all, it's like toppo using hakai, vegeta will go down the hakai path while goku will go down the instinct path, or at least that will probably happen
Yeah I agree Super has changed Vegeta's character. Old Vegeta wouldn't careless about Cabba. So I find it surprising, but I guess I don't understand why he wouldn't care about reviving his old race instead?
Lionheart810 Because he knows they're a bunch of crazy murderers. He knows that the Universe 6 Saiyans are more in tune with who he is now versus who he was before.
Lionheart810 Vegeta has shown to care for other people before, so him caring for Cabba isn't anything new. He went ballistic when Cell killed Trunks, sacrificed himself against Buu for everyone and tired to tell the people of earth to give their power for the Spirit Bomb to save them.
Lionheart810 because its too late reviving raditz nappa and bunch of cruel saiyans at cell's point until now. Vegeta himself changed when he stayed on earth. he said himself to goku that earth gentle vibe and goku's co infected him. Reviving his race will annoy him LOL because vegeta's ideal and those saiyans now are totally diff. Maybe seeing goku raising gohan and trained him, vegeta himself now trained with whis maybe make him tasting about "a new way of proud" becoming a teacher psychologically.
Perhaps it's something unique to Vegeta's blood line. Trunks so called "SSJ Rage" got blue god ki aura but was still just like SSJ, now Vegeta looks like he tapped into UI, yet still just simply an enhanced SSJ Blue.
I agree on a certain level. At the same time, there are some messed up things in anime. Some that might even eclipse the toxicity of the more bigoted side of the DB fandom.
I get that Vegeta wouldn't want to see his long dead Saiyan comrades or his father but why would he not care about the continuation of his species? Bringing back few Saiyans would help make sure that there would be future generations of Saiyans after him
Maybe he realised how dangerous the race was and how much pain/suffering they caused, maybe he finds solace knowing the race will die with him and Kakarot.
Lukkas Suhn why not those are his people from the same universe and they are more similar to him than u6 sayians ex. vegeta may be nicer now but he still has that same idc about anyone else gtfo of my face introvert attitude.
thegigadykid1 he never gave a fuck about them, just like they never gave a fuck about the royal family (matter of fact I strongly suspect the throne frequently changed hands to whomever was strong enough to hold it, hence King Vegeta's paranoia re: Bardock and Brolly.) The Saiyans of U6 are more than just proud warriors, they're a noble people. They also have the strength to represent Vegeta's image of how the Saiyan race should be, whereas I doubt the average u7 Saiyan warrior could even beat Chiaotsu (assuming Chiaotsu's gains from training with Kaioshin haven't faded with time. You'd think a guy who hangs out with Tien would be motivated to stay in shape)
EVERYTHING ! ! They would teach their race that everything is not 100% about fighting they can teach their race to be more kind loving and not be a Warrior Race that just tries to eliminate those who are weaker and in doing this they would actually become stronger
EVERYTHING!! For starters, bring Super Saiyans back into their present generation. Just like Universe 7, the technique should be forgotten for generations. Then there's also Vegeta meeting their King and going to Sadala to meet more Saiyans. Overall they could just do an entire dive-in into Universe 6 Saiyan culture, which actually isnt full of complete war-mongering savages and murderers unlike the Saiyans we know. That alone would make for some semi-decent filler imo. On a side note, with Frieza back into relevancy it could play out into something more (although this strictly depends on whether or not they can actually bring back their entire universe itself or just the inhabitants without said universe)
@geekdom101 You are awesome geekdom 101. Way you present each every point is very clear. Even for a non dbs fan, the points you wanna say is made clear by your way of presentation. Thank you for making such awesome episode reviews and for providing with legit spoilers. Hope you read this.
I'm getting tired of Vegeta fanboys saying he's ultra instinct level. In my opinion this is only to make him equal to Kaioken Goku. There is no way he is anywhere near that level.
Ultra Instinct that is kaiokenx20 I would say though. It was stated that this power was FAR stronger than vegetas regular ssb. Also a new form and it only being 2x stronger wouldnt make sense, if this is based on super vegeta its tens of times stronger. Its 100% under ultra instinct though, ultra instinct is just hax tbh. Goku literally cant be hit.
Ultra Instinct Nobody knows how strong Vegetas new form is we only saw it in action for 2 mins we r gonna have to give it a couple of episodes before we can say exactly but what im hoping for is that Vegetas new form hits harder than UI but UI has speed on Vegetas new form so it keeps that rivalry close between them and they work together in order to beat Jiren, but this is just what I would like to happen, Idk what is really gonna happen
One of your best videos I've seen. Completely agree. I also feel like vegeta broke his limit the same way he turned ssj1 the first time. Through sheer desperation to prove his rank as the prince of all saiyans and prove that saiyans aren't scum. He probably feels more annoyed that cabba and the U6 saiyans have been taken out than the fact that they are gone. Kinda like when he was telling goku to kill frieza as he was dying on namek and praising the fact that kakarot was the closest to super saiyan and being all proud that kakarot was going to kill frieza even though he was dying lol. It's surely an ego driven push that made him break through but it's how vegeta is. I'm happy for vegeta fans and Vegeta. It's high time he gets his own limit breaker like goku. Goku's limit breaker wasn't U.I, it was his limit breaker that allowed him to attain another level into U.I. So there's hope for vegeta to attain U.I in the future even if not here. I still feel like he may get attack U.I be we shall see. Limit breaker has certainly opened the door for greater heights for vegeta though.
Supes vs Zod but Supes kill Zod Goku vs Vegeta his friend Krillin almost kill Vegeta with Yajirobe sword but Goku save Vegeta life, after all, they were enemy become friends at the end. this is why Dragon Ball story is better than Supes story, Supes has too many writers and have different versions some of them are good and some of them are a bad writer and bad story.
I'm still naming it Super Saiyan True Blue, Also does anybody else think that vegeta is closing the gap against goku or is he on par with him hence the new transformation?
Clips36 I don’t think this form is true blue the manga version is closer to it then the anime,anime’s been more of this is cool let’s use it and not really explain it lol. I think vegetas new form is akin to the grade system I mean he even looked buffer then he regularly does not to the levels of grade 2 but closer 2 it. Maybe it’s just blues version of it or something entirely different but super does like 2 reuse a lot of the older techniques / forms sooo anything is possible could be this is vegetas answer to the kaioken.
Chris hazuda i completely agree with u! yeah..manga is more grounded as toriyama's wanted. mastering the form is way more like martial artist. Anime is like taking the flashy direction by using old references (kaioken, grade). this is ok, children will love it. we take it...lol yeah. So random. This is my problem with super anime. no originality
Nobody thinks Vegeta cares for the saiyans. It IS an egotistical thing, but he's a prince with nobody to rule. Isn't the whole thing that "he'd want people to rule for his ego"
DragonGamesTV agree. looks like they swap the role now. LOL. Even goku still wanted power in the past but he had 2nd motivation like saving people. Vegeta not. Now they are switching each other motivation lol
vegetajp7 ok then explain why ultra instict is not being discussed in the episodes right now and no one asked why goku isn't using the new form... why bcz they are saving it for the finale
salmaan meerun it's so many references in the arc to let you know that this is about goku ascending as right before he fought jiren in episode 109 he stated that he wanted to fight someone stronger that ever before not including that he pushed for the tournament so it's funny how a lot of ppl disagree on goku beating jiren with ultra instict in the finale
Hey Geekdom, i love a quick, succinct video intro. But you need a different sound effect. You need a dragon ball sound effect. The ki charge sound, or the instantaneous movement sound or something
Any other character psychological dissections you want?
Could trunks' special super saiyan form be a early version of limit breaker vegetas' power or atleast have a connection to it in some way
Geek, now that DBS has been over for a few months do you think you could make one longer video summing up DBS? You could confirm what we know as hard facts, explain transformation transformations, as well as give people who are trying to get into it an understanding? Also, is SSB2 vegeta stronger than SSBKx20 Goku?
I love to see piccolo's change from dragon Ball to super. He can be good parent now lool.
how about gohans reluctance to fighting or his how his obession with posing as saiyaman is tied to trauma from the ginu force
Geekdom101 id love to see a deep dive of the relationship of father and son. Vageta and future Trunks.
Vegeta has without a shadow of a doubt, had the best character development out of any characters since the very start of DBS.
dontedoestuff Vegeta had the best character development in z but not in super imo. But he's almost at the top
+My Wow who's had more development than vegeta in super lol
Dan Kn Hit had a pretty big character development. Vegeta didn't really have a character development as big as hit until now. But Vegeta did (in z) have the best character development which made Vegeta my favorite character but super made him lose some of that development
Gohan says hi
To top it all off with a cherry is to have him win the TOP!
Am I the only one that thinks this?
1. Vegeta has trained in super sayin blue longer than goku. Vegeta is more proficient at using blue compared to Goku.
2. Vegeta trained longer with Whis.
3. Vegeta pushed ssjbss to its max. Goku has not trained as hard as Vegeta because goku pushed ssjbss with using kaioken.
4. When goku came back to earth to recruit for the tournament of power. He didn't really train. He sparred with his team. Except Vegeta. Vegeta went to the hyperbolic time chamber to push ssjbss to its max knowing that goku has kaioken. Something changed Vegeta in the time chamber. No denying that.
5. The spirit bomb can't work on any opponents because the spirit bomb was ment to defeat evil. If there is evil in your heart. The bomb will destroy you. The only evil doer that did not die from a full blown spirit bomb was Frieza.
6. Whis gave Vegeta all the tools and the will to surpass his limits. Whis stated numerous times that Vegeta can be stronger than goku. As long as he knows how to control his Ki. He has the potential to be more powerful than beerus.
7. I could be wrong. But that is my Vegeta logic.
Thank you.
@TheMilks GoneBad, I especially like how you said Vegeta uses Blue to its full extent, where as Goku uses Kaioken rather than pushing it with Blue alone.
Well said indeed. All hail the Prince of ALL saiyans!
And Goku still beat Jiren lol
@@angelcano8868 Two words: Plot Armor.
Solid
For now I'm calling it Super Saiyan Bluer
Spyder super saiyan the bluest.
Super saiyan god super saiyan but bluer than super saiyan god super saiyan
I'm calling it Super Saiyan Bloobs
Spyder no its super saiyan blue 2
Royal Saiyan
I'm just waiting for Super Shenron to hit them with that legendary, "That wish is beyond my power to grant".
BladedShard9 Next will be Omni Shenron who *-Really can grant anything-*
If someone wished for Zeno to be erased that would happen.
fmthebaron That's why Zeno and super shenron are contradicting each other lmaoo.
*Goku then wishes to revive Kami*
*Goku then wishes to revive King Kai*
I love Goku, but Vegeta is by far my favorite character.
He’s the better fighter
This is exactly what i meant, i didnt know how to put it
@TajusOkHesAMaster YT I bow before the Prince of all Saiyans. For you to pay a lowly human such as myself such respect is truly humbling.
@@julians7268 what a weirdo
@@XIMSIXX Yea... not gonna argue with you there.
To be like Vegeta is my motivation when i workout.
If u were like vegeta you would have that hairline
to constantly be just below someone? inspiring
@@follis8215 Vegeta always tries his best, that's the inspiration
No point of contention. Vegeta caring about Cabba makes sense. Learning to love his family taught him how to care about others, and makes the loss of his entire race even more of a blow to him. He has a chance to fix that now.
You know how it went. As soon cabba called vegeta "sensei", vegeta went full "never in my life i needed something so much and never knew it until i received it"
Dr_Kachu san 😂😂😂😂💯
Ryan Wall his dead boyfriend 😂😂
It doesn't take a lot of explanation. Vegeta has grown up. He actually has become a noble character, and a pretty decent dad in the process. Remember, and a lot of people just don't get this, Dragonball is a story of redemption from the very beginning, and on many, many, levels.
Charles Seale I like the analysis though. It gives you a better explanation of the different reasons and motivation Vegeta had to break thru his shell, and better than Goku that just wants to be stronger than whoever is in front of him, boom you get UI.
CLG Skrypt NA the 2nd part of your comment, right? How sick would that be...but you know it will be Goku in the end...again!
Ya like all of Goku's friends used to be his enemies. Even Krillin
Charles Seale i think that thanks to universe 6 saiyans Vegeta has matured, he is starting to embrace responsibilities, growing out his role of prince and accepting that of king. At least this is the development i would love him to have, from spoiled prince to wise and responsible king.
Royal blue Vegeta spread the word
Oh Its spread alright
First off im impressed at the writers for building up to these very moments where Vegeta and Goku finally COME TOGETHER and find there dreams down different paths!
I don’t think Vegeta will find Ultra persay, but he will stay on Par with Goku
ErrynD until March. than who know..... Dragonball Super GTZ
Lisa Brown they might just be on a hiatus
nope as always Goku will always be stronger than Vegeta because his the main character.
I think he'll learn Ultra Instinct too by training with Goku. I believe that's the only way for Vegeta to finally bury the hatchet and end their rivalry. It makes sense (to me, at least) because we thought that Ultra Instinct has two modes (offensive and defensive, which I believe is the early stage of UI). If Vegeta can learn how to hit a UI Goku, that would only mean he's unlocked the offense version of UI and just develop it to master it as a whole.
How about we call it... Migatte no Vegetui?
Ok I'll leave.
Looooool
😂😂😂
Labilize so sarcastic
Lol I will call it super saiyan saiyan god with boundless power
I loved how they went back to memories to obtain transformations rather than tingy feelings in back
Prakhar Sharma Both make sense and both lead to awesome results
ShiniDragon777 The tingly back doesn't make sense it came out of nowhere.
McNugget Fan makes sense or not, memories have a better looking impact on the audience then tingy feelings in the back
+AnimeGaminRealm it does but ok
Dragon Ball Fan well i understand that but all i am saying is i got way more excited watching vegeta transform here than caulifla transform
Keep the intro!!
Fel
Hell yeah. I like that.
Anyone know what font that is?
I agree, it's short but effective/accurate !
Thanks I like it too!!!
I like vegeta new super saiyans form being a darker blue it make it look like the regular SSB look like a incomplete transformation
"Limit Breaker"? You mean Kawaii Blue Vegeta?
Vegeta does look pretty awesome.
kawaii aoii
His eyes look cute in a weird way
Lol
HEYYY THE INTRO CAME BACK AMAZING!
Geekdom's grandma Where is vegetable's grandma?
Geekdom's grandma where are my god damn cookies???
There’s always that one guy
huh my boy future trunks with his Super saiyan rage would wreck jiren
yes and lol
The emotion from losing his prodigy in Cubba and the other sayains honestly it's amazing character development....not out of rage but out of pure need. (Saving his sayians).
Bam Bam Cubba?
typo!
Exactly
Bam Bam cubba 👏🏼
I think they should call this Super Saiyan Royal Blue, since it's an exclusive transformation for him & it's still blue, a sharper, stronger one.
Also, I don't watch too many people who do these info videos, & some have a tendency to yell in theirs for some reason.
I was recommended to you approximately a year or so ago by a viewer/mod of mine; no regrets w/ the subscription. I like how you hand out the information, especially in a chill manner, & at some points insert some comedy like you've done once or twice now.
Keep up the good work, man. Cheers.
Imma stick with the name Royal Super Saiyan.
Id personally stick with Super Saiyan Royal. Keep it in line with the god saiyan names like rose and blue.
blue blood Saiyan?
Avery Bodies lol
Super Saiyan Royal Blue
Ultra Blue
This year I will break my limits... Who's with me???
Church Life Videos LET'S DO IT ⚡👊
I broke my arm...that's something i suppose
Definitely
Church Life Videos I'm right with you.
Church Life Videos you'll still be black
Vegeta new form is boundless which means vegeta is going to get stronger as he fights and could master this form maybe in episode 126
Christian Cruz I like the way you think
Isaiah Roertson You sound ignorant, go away. You clearly weren't paying attention to the episode to know how strong Vegeta's new form is at bare minimum
Isaiah Roertson did i say anything about goku no i didn't and did i say vegeta beats jiren no don't be saying shit that i didn't say
People still think Vegeta will be equal to Goku in the Goku show that's cute
Isaiah Roertson hhah goku u i asspull 100% then every caracter needs to do like goku just barely die and get u i lmao
Vegeta has been the main reason to watch to me.
Derek Hogan Same dawg
Same here.
Derek Hogan Do you think Frieza will follow the same path?
Same here
Bishop Ave I doubt it, he's barely done gold enough to achieve something else so soon
@Geekdom101 looking back, were there any HINTS subtle or not, of Ultra Ego? Or a path being led to UE?
Another great video geekdom! Love it man! Keep killing it!
Dude really mastered the art of talking but not really saying anything lol this video is pointless
Tstre3tz yes kinda
Right! He goes into a 10min rant for one question. Literally this could take 2 mins but he makes it loooong af
Tstre3tz unsubscribe and be on with it. Go follow anime live reactions and see how much bs you get
Exactly
Yea lots of these dragonbal channels. They talk a lot and say nothing
Toei confirmed it's Super Duper Blue.
Saying "Vegeta went Super Duper Blue" is just too fun to say for that to be true.
shane coss Thats the joke.
t0raxx lol, yeah, kind of figured that.
t0raxx that's why he said it was funny...
Mystic Gohan Yes and your point?
I like the name many are giving it: Ultra Super Saiyan Blue. It sorta fits the transformation, and seems like a reference to Ultra Super Saiyan. I don't think this will be Vegeta's full limit though, as this seems more like it's just to get him something on the level of SSBlue Kaioken Goku. I think we will probably see a new transformation for Vegeta later, whether it's Ultra Instinct or something equivalent.
I just hope this is the start of them finally making Vegeta and Goku different from each other and not having them be carbon copies. I like the idea of them both having different potentials and I want to see them expand on this.
Hei Darkfire I agree!
Well, of course it's not his full limit. He'll get more powerful in the next arc. And the arc after that. And the arc after that, and so on and so forth until Super ends.
He does look bulky like super vegeta
It wouldn't surprise me if they did it as a reference to Super Vegeta. I know I'm not the only one that found Super Vegeta to be pretty much an icon in the Cell Saga and found it to be their favorite moments for Vegeta. Plus it sorta made sense. Kaioken SSBlue was a callback to Goku and giving him a modified Super Saiyan Blue with something people knew, so it would make sense to do the same for Vegeta since Goku never really used the Ultra form in battle.
Ultra Saiyan Blue also has a nice ring to it but they have been super saiyans so long it also sound weird
It looks like SSB Grade 2.
It basically is
My thoughts exactly
Yup
hey just wanted to say i enjoy this type of video with the picture and videos and not just a picture with commentary , keep up the good work man !
How did piccolo sense vegetas god ki in the first place
LightningFlare retcon
Piccolo was able to sense who Supreme Kai was, maybe it's the same deal?
Piccolo has KAMI inside, he is a demon/god.
Kenneth D. Calderon makes perfect sense
LightningFlare 😂😂😂
*Blueper Saiyan Blue Electric Bluegaloo*
DivineSaiyanWarrior best comment hands down
DivineSaiyanWarrior ssb grade 2
Lmao
Bagalado
made my day HAHA
I bet the form will be called "Super Vegeta Blue"
You got it!
SaiyanPride 17 It's not the "Super Vegeta" transformation.
Okay go look at Super Vegeta then look closer at the new Form.
fight night no definitely not
We will see.
Geekdom... you are the best dragonball analyst I have ever watched on this entire planet dude no exaggeration. I would love to have you as someone to help direct the series.
with just the starting logo for your video Geekdom you got my like :D :) ;)
i think the pain of losing the saiyans the first time. vegeta doesnt want to lose the saiyan again
evak son. He didn't even care planet Vegeta blew up! DID YOU WATCH Z
EVERYTHING ! ! Did you forget about the scene where Vegeta was literally crying to Goku about Freeza destroying his home planet and all the saiyans?
EVERYTHING ! ! You tripping vagata cares about his race
Vegeta found da wae because somebody toucha his cabba
Arth Banka L
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Dankest person of 2018
Arth Banka lol
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Goku has always been my favorite character since dragon Ball, but man ever since majin buu saga Vegeta slowly started to become my favorite his character development is amazing
Same here. Was always a huge Goku over everybody fan. Now I'm rooting for Vegeta all the time. May be partially due to the Japanese version of Goku though. The Funi dub version of Goku is less retarded and careless most of the time.
Patrick Shelley yea I always hated how dumb English sub makes Goku look 😂😂
I been binge watching you for two days subscribed yesterday. You have turned this anime for me into something so much deeper that I knew was there but couldn’t articulate in my head as well I could for shows like NARUTO or BLEACH.
Old video but, I'm just now watching it for some reason. I've followed you for a long time and I really love some of the points you've made over the years. Keep it up man, you've got one of the best communities in the fandom.
I'm gonna call it Super Sayain Dark Blue lol
Daniyal Mansur super saiyan dank
Royal blue lol
Super saiyan blue-er
Daniyal Mansur
What about Ultra Blue ?
U. Hyper blue
love it! the jazz part in the video, non plus ultra ending :)
Super Saiyan More Blue
Super Saiyan Bluest
The Dark Knight no
Super saiyan blueish
Earth is Flat yes
Super Saiyan Dyed Blue
Just... damn Geekdom, very good video. This is why I like your channel man, you dissect every bit of what make a character themselves and explain it comprehensively in an extremely well edited video.
You are awesome Geekdom! Just looking out for you bro! In dePth not in deAth. Please keep posting videos, we love them!
I thought it would break his limits by thinking about losing Bulma and his son and daughter. Breaking his limit about Cabba took me by surprise.
Lionheart810 i think the trigger was the promise. . he made a promise to cabba. like a true warrior. , he will always do anything. fr it
Lionheart810 universe 7 is safe already
later he will achieve ultra god SSGSSRAinbow instinct super saiyan grade infinity kaioken times 100000000 by thinking of his family.
I swear it's just super saiyan grade 2/super vegeta stacked with god ki.
It’s not mainly because evolved is close to 20x blue
Grade 2 isn’t even 2x ssj
my question is, where are the super dragonballs going to come from since there is no universe 6 anymore?
James Belcher I was thinking the same thing and where will they go after the wish if U6 is erased
My favorite Dragon Ball youtuber, keep it up bro
Brilliant. You are becoming one of my favourite RUclipsr’s. I’m just waiting until “Limit Breaker Blue” Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Goku take on Jirren together.
Vegeta is so popular because of the same reason Gohan is because they have the most character development he changed over the years of the series which gives it a reality and makes him more appealing that's why he's my favorite character he has way more human ways then goku
YNK Zeno meh they will always favor goku cauze goku is the most popular dragonball character and worldwide
I'M WATCHING U of course the main character will be popular but vegeta just like gohan we've watched them grow over the years and change as the series progresses which attracts them as a character goku just fights and eats
YNK Zeno goku actually got a development it ended in dragonball (original)
I'M WATCHING U ur definitely right about that even a little in Z but in super he's plain as a new sheet of paper
YNK Zeno This is very true but I just feel that Goku should never really change ever since dragon ball hes just that kid who always wants to fight snd become the strongest and thats why we all love him
When you realize you and laughingstock have the same thumbnail.
Timothy Judge u mean both having limit breaker Vegeta
Patrick Hewitt same pic
Vegeta is the equivalent to Crixus as Goku is to Spartacus
I really enjoyed the way you did this video. Intro was refreshing and I love that outro music. Best video discussion I've seen from you.
Another classic video. Your content is great that’s one of he reasons I started following. But your respect for your followers is amazing. Keep up the content
Plot twist: the super dragon ball can't undo anything zeno did.
U6 Saiyans Are Asspulls that’s what I was thinking too, like Zeno wants those universes gone, I don’t think he’s going to just accept them being brought back.
Vegeta has one more step to master his new blue form. Just like the power up between ssj and ssj2.
I hope his form gets stronger because its obvious that it was equal to goku ssb kaio ken
Chris1738 Kaioken x20 at that
Nope, its STRONGER!
Geekdom101 How do you know? It doesn't seem stronger to me as of right now. That could turn out to be the case but no one knows yet. Aren't you the same guy who said regular ssb Vegeta was stronger than Ssb Goku?
derrick howard jr i agree it doesnt seem stronger i guess we will see next episode
Looks stronger than his Kaoken to me
I love all your videos. So happy to have followed you man . I usually leave you playing in background because your topics are great to think about while going about the day !
great video man vegeta's redemption at the end of the buu arc really endeared him to people even more still one of my favorites of the entire show and roshi but for different reasons
Who else didn't get to play the Fighterz Beta because a match would never load
Damn that new intro though !!!
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Prakhar Sharma it’s not new kid
Ohh, i mostly listen to his stuff in gym, and generally its some character asking to subscribe
Jiren is training Goku and Vegeta. He really likes fighting them
Jiren doing something because he could've been took them out. He hasn't even used 50% of his power yet
I don't think that people are talking about this, but I'm wondering is Piccolo sensing his energy, or just observing it? If he's sensing it, what happened to not being able to sense god ki? Also, what happened to raising ki within their bodies to avoid alerting their opponents (as stated by Whis earlier in the series)? It's raging SSB, and SSB Kaio Ken ki all over the place which is alerting Master Roshi! lol
Just watched the vid again!
By far the best video u have done man’nnn!!!
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Super vegeta blue could be a name
Black Knight Meteor Strike no not really the name blows
Earth is Flat well vegeta did name his super saiyan form "Super Vegeta" x3
Black Knight Meteor Strike woahhhh wowwww incredible like he chooses the name the creators do
Earth is Flat xp
Black Knight Meteor Strike ssb grade 2
Vegeta is fighting evenly with Goku who is most likely using kaioken x20. So the real question is is Vegetas new powerup/form his answer to Gokus kaioken?
evenly? goku got hit hard and couldnt do anything when jiren fought back while vegeta easily took it and fired a blast at jiren that pushed jiren back a little. seriously do people watch the same show as me or does everyone wanna downplay vegeta
I don't think Kaioken matters that much now. I believe that it's not really a stacking power boost (because we have SSJ transformations for that) but rather an essential mode that makes things more effective. And it does not really mean that it's stronger. Kaioken does twitch things, but I'm pretty sure it does not really fuse with the God power.
Think of it as if it was a barbecue. Better meat = stronger ssj transformation. And Kaioken is like the barbecue sauce to me. It does not change the quality of meat but does add flavor into it.
@Rudy Figueroa vegeta royal blue is not like ultra instinct at all, it's like toppo using hakai, vegeta will go down the hakai path while goku will go down the instinct path, or at least that will probably happen
Yeah I agree Super has changed Vegeta's character. Old Vegeta wouldn't careless about Cabba. So I find it surprising, but I guess I don't understand why he wouldn't care about reviving his old race instead?
Lionheart810 Because he knows they're a bunch of crazy murderers. He knows that the Universe 6 Saiyans are more in tune with who he is now versus who he was before.
Mourneris best explain for that specific notion. Maybe Geekdom is about to say that. Haven't finished the video yet.
Lionheart810 Vegeta has shown to care for other people before, so him caring for Cabba isn't anything new. He went ballistic when Cell killed Trunks, sacrificed himself against Buu for everyone and tired to tell the people of earth to give their power for the Spirit Bomb to save them.
Lionheart810 because its too late reviving raditz nappa and bunch of cruel saiyans at cell's point until now. Vegeta himself changed when he stayed on earth. he said himself to goku that earth gentle vibe and goku's co infected him. Reviving his race will annoy him LOL because vegeta's ideal and those saiyans now are totally diff. Maybe seeing goku raising gohan and trained him, vegeta himself now trained with whis maybe make him tasting about "a new way of proud" becoming a teacher psychologically.
So I've been watching your videos for several months now and I only just now subscribed and I apologize for that
Geekdom is the type of guy to make a video call Limit Breaker Vegeta Constructed.
Perhaps it's something unique to Vegeta's blood line. Trunks so called "SSJ Rage" got blue god ki aura but was still just like SSJ, now Vegeta looks like he tapped into UI, yet still just simply an enhanced SSJ Blue.
Royal blue *KING* Vegeta, ready to smack everything and everyone to revive the universe 6 saiyans.
Dragonball has the absolute worst fanbase in all of anime. Love Dragonball, hate the fans.
So true.
John Smith what about the jojo fandom
so true
I agree on a certain level. At the same time, there are some messed up things in anime. Some that might even eclipse the toxicity of the more bigoted side of the DB fandom.
Like the videos Geekdom been keeping up with your videos for a couple years now!!XD
great video. as always, but this one stands out. well done
I get that Vegeta wouldn't want to see his long dead Saiyan comrades or his father but why would he not care about the continuation of his species? Bringing back few Saiyans would help make sure that there would be future generations of Saiyans after him
Maybe he realised how dangerous the race was and how much pain/suffering they caused, maybe he finds solace knowing the race will die with him and Kakarot.
He is importing Salada to U7 anyway. Why bother with the weaker evil Saiyans
Jimmy Grey perfect explanation
Lukkas Suhn why not those are his people from the same universe and they are more similar to him than u6 sayians ex. vegeta may be nicer now but he still has that same idc about anyone else gtfo of my face introvert attitude.
thegigadykid1 he never gave a fuck about them, just like they never gave a fuck about the royal family (matter of fact I strongly suspect the throne frequently changed hands to whomever was strong enough to hold it, hence King Vegeta's paranoia re: Bardock and Brolly.)
The Saiyans of U6 are more than just proud warriors, they're a noble people. They also have the strength to represent Vegeta's image of how the Saiyan race should be, whereas I doubt the average u7 Saiyan warrior could even beat Chiaotsu (assuming Chiaotsu's gains from training with Kaioshin haven't faded with time. You'd think a guy who hangs out with Tien would be motivated to stay in shape)
They should revive the saiyans as an upcoming arc
Simon English noooo...that's not happening
Simon English what would they even do
Idk but it would be dope
EVERYTHING ! ! They would teach their race that everything is not 100% about fighting they can teach their race to be more kind loving and not be a Warrior Race that just tries to eliminate those who are weaker and in doing this they would actually become stronger
EVERYTHING!! For starters, bring Super Saiyans back into their present generation. Just like Universe 7, the technique should be forgotten for generations. Then there's also Vegeta meeting their King and going to Sadala to meet more Saiyans. Overall they could just do an entire dive-in into Universe 6 Saiyan culture, which actually isnt full of complete war-mongering savages and murderers unlike the Saiyans we know. That alone would make for some semi-decent filler imo.
On a side note, with Frieza back into relevancy it could play out into something more (although this strictly depends on whether or not they can actually bring back their entire universe itself or just the inhabitants without said universe)
*Super Saiyan Sapphire*
Galaxioce AJ This is what I've been calling it
@geekdom101 You are awesome geekdom 101. Way you present each every point is very clear. Even for a non dbs fan, the points you wanna say is made clear by your way of presentation. Thank you for making such awesome episode reviews and for providing with legit spoilers. Hope you read this.
With all the sparkles coming out, I'm going to call this form Super Saiyan Glitter.
I'm getting tired of Vegeta fanboys saying he's ultra instinct level. In my opinion this is only to make him equal to Kaioken Goku. There is no way he is anywhere near that level.
Ultra Instinct He’s stronger than Kaioken Goku, but still weaker than U.I Goku
Andre TheBeast I agree. He's either equal to or a little bit stronger than SSB Kaioken Goku.
Ultra Instinct that is kaiokenx20 I would say though. It was stated that this power was FAR stronger than vegetas regular ssb. Also a new form and it only being 2x stronger wouldnt make sense, if this is based on super vegeta its tens of times stronger. Its 100% under ultra instinct though, ultra instinct is just hax tbh. Goku literally cant be hit.
Ultra Instinct Nobody knows how strong Vegetas new form is we only saw it in action for 2 mins we r gonna have to give it a couple of episodes before we can say exactly but what im hoping for is that Vegetas new form hits harder than UI but UI has speed on Vegetas new form so it keeps that rivalry close between them and they work together in order to beat Jiren, but this is just what I would like to happen, Idk what is really gonna happen
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Jiren Has No Hair
Clout_ Gang classic 😂😂😂
Clout_ Gang hairlarious
Was waiting for “women’s rights” but oh well
Lol
dafuq that's not a joke, its's a fact
Can't Goku give Vegeta a quick kaioken lesson? Imagine how powerful he would be with his new form and x20
Martin Quin He has to learn from King Kai but I doubt Vegeta will listen to him since King Kai is much weaker than Vegeta
Im calling it NOW the last fight with Goku and Jiren is AFTER the tournament
One of your best videos I've seen. Completely agree. I also feel like vegeta broke his limit the same way he turned ssj1 the first time. Through sheer desperation to prove his rank as the prince of all saiyans and prove that saiyans aren't scum. He probably feels more annoyed that cabba and the U6 saiyans have been taken out than the fact that they are gone. Kinda like when he was telling goku to kill frieza as he was dying on namek and praising the fact that kakarot was the closest to super saiyan and being all proud that kakarot was going to kill frieza even though he was dying lol. It's surely an ego driven push that made him break through but it's how vegeta is.
I'm happy for vegeta fans and Vegeta. It's high time he gets his own limit breaker like goku. Goku's limit breaker wasn't U.I, it was his limit breaker that allowed him to attain another level into U.I. So there's hope for vegeta to attain U.I in the future even if not here. I still feel like he may get attack U.I be we shall see. Limit breaker has certainly opened the door for greater heights for vegeta though.
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution! Super Saiyan Blue Evolution.
Supes vs Zod but Supes kill Zod
Goku vs Vegeta his friend Krillin almost kill Vegeta with Yajirobe sword but Goku save Vegeta life, after all, they were enemy become friends at the end.
this is why Dragon Ball story is better than Supes story, Supes has too many writers and have different versions some of them are good and some of them are a bad writer and bad story.
I'm still naming it Super Saiyan True Blue, Also does anybody else think that vegeta is closing the gap against goku or is he on par with him hence the new transformation?
Clips 36 ssb grade 2
Clips36 I don’t think this form is true blue the manga version is closer to it then the anime,anime’s been more of this is cool let’s use it and not really explain it lol. I think vegetas new form is akin to the grade system I mean he even looked buffer then he regularly does not to the levels of grade 2 but closer 2 it. Maybe it’s just blues version of it or something entirely different but super does like 2 reuse a lot of the older techniques / forms sooo anything is possible could be this is vegetas answer to the kaioken.
*True Super Saiyan Blue
Chris hazuda i completely agree with u! yeah..manga is more grounded as toriyama's wanted. mastering the form is way more like martial artist. Anime is like taking the flashy direction by using old references (kaioken, grade). this is ok, children will love it. we take it...lol yeah. So random. This is my problem with super anime. no originality
I think his on par with goku using ssb kaiokan x20 or bait stronger but not ui
Awesome video, great analysis.
Nobody thinks Vegeta cares for the saiyans. It IS an egotistical thing, but he's a prince with nobody to rule. Isn't the whole thing that "he'd want people to rule for his ego"
lol! Nobody talks about jiren ? (who is even above his god of destruction ?)
Prince Vegeta wants to become King Vegeta. It is his birthright.
Vegeta knows that if cabba and 6 are gone the sayans will be gone again he must save his races chance to rebound
I dont be fan of vegeta in dbz and gt but in super i like him more than goku :p
DragonGamesTV agree. looks like they swap the role now. LOL. Even goku still wanted power in the past but he had 2nd motivation like saving people. Vegeta not. Now they are switching each other motivation lol
right, Vegeta's character feels like a main character in super vs dbz where he is a villain, even after he married Bulma and had Trunk
DragonGamesTV same hur broooo. Vegeta is waaay better then Goku in Super!
DragonGamesTV Super isn’t perfect but it did something GT didn’t develop more then just goku
DragonGamesTV Mhm.
This is an excellent analysis of Vegeta's character, very insightful.
His new form is SUPER VEGETA 2.0
Nice! I dig that cool intro logo!
It looked amazing
geekdom101 you can't tell me you don't see goku beating jiren one on one using ultra instict now...I mean they are saving the transformation
vegetajp7 ok then explain why ultra instict is not being discussed in the episodes right now and no one asked why goku isn't using the new form... why bcz they are saving it for the finale
Of course they are saving the full power of Ultra instinct for the last minutes of the tournament.
remember the shirtless goku cover
salmaan meerun it's so many references in the arc to let you know that this is about goku ascending as right before he fought jiren in episode 109 he stated that he wanted to fight someone stronger that ever before not including that he pushed for the tournament so it's funny how a lot of ppl disagree on goku beating jiren with ultra instict in the finale
True and i fear vegeta will be eliminated maybe at episode 127 due to his life risking attack
salmaan meerun those spoilers tell it all lol
Vegeta is the Blue Ranger
Nice new intro Geekdom!
Hey Geekdom, i love a quick, succinct video intro. But you need a different sound effect. You need a dragon ball sound effect. The ki charge sound, or the instantaneous movement sound or something