I remember, that I bought Star Bust She-ra from my pocket money, when I was a kid. I loved her and I watched also the PoP catroon on Sky Channel in 1986. But many years later, When I became an adult MotU fan and collector, She-ra still conquered my heart again. Shé`s my girl, I love She-ra.
My best He-Man find in the wild in the last decade was finding a MOC original She-Ra @ an elderly lady's yard sale about 6-7 years ago for only 25 cents! BTW, another great video sir!
I think we can all agree that the hole on She-Ra's head doesn't look great for display, but to call it sexist is totally absurd and uncalled for. It's not like all the women characters in Classics had holes in their head and like you said, it was to implement the flippable mask which was totally unnecessary but very appreciated
I have the She-Ra vs Supergirl version of the figure, which is my preferred look for She-Ra. Had no idea about the other headdress problems. I think options are cool and appreciate the effort you guys did and this comes from a new female subscriber to your channel.
I remember when all that was going down. I was downright angry at the 'fans' at the time and really felt for ya. I think this was the first figure with a legitimate THREE ways to display it.... and the torches and pitchfork crowd were throwing tantrums because there weren't FOUR ways to display one figure... Even after a maskless Adora was already released... It was madness i tell ya... MADNESS!!!
Nifty video. Thank you! This was a great figure. Not perfect, for the reasons you mentioned in the video, but darned close. The legal work-around to get POP stuff made was much appreciated! Would you ever consider doing a video about the rights quagmires you had to encounter, or would that not be possible? I remember reading somewhere that Filmation was bought out in the late 1980s or early 1990s by L'Oréal, of all things (or a subsidiary or parent company of L'Oréal) at one point, then almost immediately shut down, and they just sat on the rights for ages without doing anything with them. >SIGH< On a side note, I started collecting MOTUC from he very first He-Man and Beast Man figures, and kept going to nearly the very end (the latest Power-Con exclusives and Snake Mountain are just too much for my budget at the moment). And in all those years, it never failed to puzzle me what some of the collectors complained about. Yeesh!
It would take quite a spread sheet to explain. But it might make a neat video. Hallmark to Entertainment Rights, to Classic Media, to Dreamworks to Universal I think is the short version.
That's funny. I didn't really collect and pay attention to He Man when I was a kid but I did watch the origin story or She Ra and like her character. So I was interested in getting the MOTUC She-Ra and the masks and such are great. Never thought of complaining about the hole on the head. If I wanted to I could fill the hole and custom.
So people were actually complaining that she didn't have a maskless head? Excuse me, but did she ever appear that way in the show? Certainly not that I'm aware of. People don't know what they're talking about sometimes. My main issues were the skirt that didn't allow for her famous power kicks, the lack of articulation in the waist, the stiff hair that hindered head movement, and the fact that she game with a gold sword instead of gray/silver. I know a lot of that is for accuracy and detail, trying to be closer to the vintage toy and all, but those were the issues I had with it. Most of those were fixed with the release of the Filmation She-Ra figure, which I like a lot more. I never had the vintage She-Ra figure but I did have a cousin who had one and that mask along with her sword were often the first things to become lost, so I'm glad these versions had heads with the head wings molded in.
You were dealing with a lot of spoiled, entitled brats inhabiting adult bodies. But as I always point out, you facilitated the creation of the greatest MotU figures ever, and hundreds of them at that.
One thing I still don't understand about your rights breakdown: Would the rights to do the She-Ra figures have been clearer if you had done them more firmly in their vintage toy look? I mean the dolls themselves were clearly an in house Mattel property, correct?
I know some collectors complain just too much, even about some small details. But the point about the forehead hole is that it's ugly! And I know you said you went the extra mile to allow the She-Ra figure to be displayed with the mask in two ways, but it's also true that you said you have to make toys the way people want to play with them. I'm not criticising you about the decisions you took but saying that what might be obvious to one party might not be obvious to the other.
Yes but you are never meant to see the hole. When it is covered by the mask you don't see it. It is like pulling off a leg and complaining that the stump is ugly.
Filmation best look.i never liked the doll look I wanted it to fit with my he man toys as a kid I saw people make there own she ra to sit on swift wing another I would have liked in comic stores
Being sexiest wasn't the issue, it was a lazy design. That's all, some people wanted a mask-less She-Ra face. Also, your answer to She-Ra sitting on Swiftwind is a very, very different answer than you gave in the old Ask Matty section; I was the first to ask the question and get an answer from you; I questioned how our current She-Ra was going to fit on Swift Wind. Your reply was "we got this". And I suppose you did by making me buy another figure since the first couldn't do what was promised. Weird revisionist history in some of these videos but I really appreciate your personal insight.
The intent was for Swiftwind's saddle to have a large "bump" that would let the original She-Ra indeed mount Swifty, but along the way the plans were changed. At the time I made that comment they had not. Things change ALL the time in the toy industry. I think it is one of the reasons I would be called out as a "liar" as I'd give an update to a current situation but then the situation would change for 1 of a million reasons and my previous comment was then called a lie vs an update that evolved, often for reason beyond my control!
So wait a second. if the original focus group of children could display the figure with the mask in either position why not just emulate that design instead of drilling a big hole in the figure's forehead?
The reason the mask worked both direction in the vintage line was the rooted hair. The new figure has sculpted plastic hair and did not allow the mask to be held in place by the hair the way the vintage doll did.
@@spectorcreative1872 Sadly, there has been misogyny & sexism directed at She-Ra ( & now, insanely, misandry against OG He-Man & She-Ra from a fanatic subset of the 2016 reboot's fanbase ), in a way that hurt the ENTIRE MOTU franchise, but it WASN'T the long hair & short-skirts ( which my little "pervy" male kid self, and also my lascivious male adult self remained a fan of: one of my favourite He-Man/She-Ra episodes is the one where original adult lady Frosta keeps trying to give He-Man THA BOOTY!! lol ) that were either ( I mean, nobody shouts "objectification" about the fact that He-Man's chest & the bottom of his ass have been on display forever ): rather it was in the marketing of the original toyline, and frankly in some of the creatives & executives involved ( listen closely to some of the commentary given on documentaries like "the toys that made us" & "the power of Greyskull" [ by the way Scott, loved seeing you on there: it took my second viewing of it to realize, "hey, wait, there is Toy Guru Scott who so kindly replies to my comments on his youtube videos!!" lol ] ), and in the social conditioning of the 80s which sadly made some 80s/ early 90s boys feel uncomfortable adding a She-Ra "doll" to their Masters collection ( many did so anyway, including many of us who weren't & aren't gay, but many [ often who HAD Evil-Lyn ] opted out for fear of "s*ssy" stigma ] ) , even though She-Ra was literally the third most famous & recognizable character in the entire MOTU franchise right behind He-Man & Skeletor themselves ( the mere fact that rooted hair is what differentiates an "action figure" from a "doll" is kinda sexist crazy bullshit... I always though of my She-Ra & Catra as action figures with nice hair... whereas the mean old lady who used to live next door to me considered ALL anthropomorphic toys to be dolls, whether it was He-Man, She-Ra, Lion-O, Mumm-Ra, or my foot tall monsters from the Inhumanoids franchise lol ). Now things have swung a bit too far in the other extreme direction. But I think sexism definitely hurt MOTU, in so far as, if NOT for the sexism, I think the original 80s marketing on She-Ra would have been MUCH more effective ( I mean, She-Ra did well for a "flank" line, & both boys & girls bought her, & I firmly believe she initially helped He-Man sales, since the Secret of the Sword movie came out early in 1985, and 1985 & 1986 proved to be the two most profitable years in all MOTU histoy... but, still...), she would have been an even bigger boost on He-Man's sales than was the case, there would have been MUCH more crossover in their minicomics ( with both making frequent appearances in each other's toy-packaged-comics, instead of the only original toy-package-crossover being He-Man, The Sorceress, Grayskull & Hordak showing up in She-Ra's debut "the story of She-Ra" minicomic [ &, of course, Hordak himself recurring in He-Man's minicomics ]), & we probably wouldn't have all the batshit brand confusion we have today. I think much of it is also due to the fact that the toy industry, which birthed He-Man & She-Ra, was/is much more obsessed with gender-divide than comics, novels, & movies, where the story comes first. One can't even imagine DC getting lax with the explicit rights of WonderWoman, & no one even half-imagines that her presence was ever anything less than a big net positive for Super Friends & Justice League ( animated & live action alike ). DC never made the mistake of putting any distance between WonderWoman & Superman, even though those two don't even belong to the same race: meanwhile, the studios have recently had TWIN SIBLINGS He-Man & She-Ra acting like strangers... It just ain't right, I tell ya lol.
I'm glad POP ended up in Classics. Such a great all-encompassing line!
By the skin of our teeth!
You know you did right by the fans by putting the hole there. We appreciate what you did and the coolness of the options you gave us
Agreed! I was so happy to be able to use the masked version. The "sexist" talk is a HUGE stretch
Thanks. She was never meant to display without the mask
It sounds like you put a lot of love & thought into these creations. Thank you
Very much so. All of these figures were made with much fan love
I remember, that I bought Star Bust She-ra from my pocket money, when I was a kid. I loved her and I watched also the PoP catroon on Sky Channel in 1986. But many years later, When I became an adult MotU fan and collector, She-ra still conquered my heart again. Shé`s my girl, I love She-ra.
Me too. She-Ra in a lot of ways is my preference over He-Man.
My best He-Man find in the wild in the last decade was finding a MOC original She-Ra @ an elderly lady's yard sale about 6-7 years ago for only 25 cents! BTW, another great video sir!
Yard sales are tight
I have The original Classics She-Ra. I love all the different display options. (I am a Guy). I never would have displayed She-Ra without Her mask.
Yup, she wasn't designed to be displayed that way!
I think we can all agree that the hole on She-Ra's head doesn't look great for display, but to call it sexist is totally absurd and uncalled for. It's not like all the women characters in Classics had holes in their head and like you said, it was to implement the flippable mask which was totally unnecessary but very appreciated
And it is not meant to be displayed like that! :-)
I have the She-Ra vs Supergirl version of the figure, which is my preferred look for She-Ra. Had no idea about the other headdress problems. I think options are cool and appreciate the effort you guys did and this comes from a new female subscriber to your channel.
Well welcome to the channel! Always love to get comments as well as suggestions for topics. Welcome welcome and thanks for subscribing
I remember when all that was going down. I was downright angry at the 'fans' at the time and really felt for ya. I think this was the first figure with a legitimate THREE ways to display it.... and the torches and pitchfork crowd were throwing tantrums because there weren't FOUR ways to display one figure... Even after a maskless Adora was already released...
It was madness i tell ya... MADNESS!!!
Like living in a coocoo clock sometimes I know! Thanks for the support
Awesome figure! I'm glad that she was released!
Me too.
Awesome video. I didn't know any of this especially the mask/crown.
And knowing is half the knowing
Nifty video. Thank you! This was a great figure. Not perfect, for the reasons you mentioned in the video, but darned close. The legal work-around to get POP stuff made was much appreciated! Would you ever consider doing a video about the rights quagmires you had to encounter, or would that not be possible? I remember reading somewhere that Filmation was bought out in the late 1980s or early 1990s by L'Oréal, of all things (or a subsidiary or parent company of L'Oréal) at one point, then almost immediately shut down, and they just sat on the rights for ages without doing anything with them. >SIGH<
On a side note, I started collecting MOTUC from he very first He-Man and Beast Man figures, and kept going to nearly the very end (the latest Power-Con exclusives and Snake Mountain are just too much for my budget at the moment). And in all those years, it never failed to puzzle me what some of the collectors complained about. Yeesh!
It would take quite a spread sheet to explain. But it might make a neat video. Hallmark to Entertainment Rights, to Classic Media, to Dreamworks to Universal I think is the short version.
That's funny. I didn't really collect and pay attention to He Man when I was a kid but I did watch the origin story or She Ra and like her character.
So I was interested in getting the MOTUC She-Ra and the masks and such are great. Never thought of complaining about the hole on the head. If I wanted to I could fill the hole and custom.
Yup. And you can't see the hole with the mask on.
So people were actually complaining that she didn't have a maskless head? Excuse me, but did she ever appear that way in the show? Certainly not that I'm aware of. People don't know what they're talking about sometimes. My main issues were the skirt that didn't allow for her famous power kicks, the lack of articulation in the waist, the stiff hair that hindered head movement, and the fact that she game with a gold sword instead of gray/silver. I know a lot of that is for accuracy and detail, trying to be closer to the vintage toy and all, but those were the issues I had with it. Most of those were fixed with the release of the Filmation She-Ra figure, which I like a lot more. I never had the vintage She-Ra figure but I did have a cousin who had one and that mask along with her sword were often the first things to become lost, so I'm glad these versions had heads with the head wings molded in.
Hey Adult Collectors want what they want. I know, I'm one of them...
I wish they would have continued with the 1/12 inch rooted She-Ra figures.
I do too. But I think they priced her too high. At 19.99 she would have done much better.
Can't lie, I would've like to see a version based on the recent DC comic look.
Totally legit. Maybe Mattel will do that in time.
Strange thing about She-Ra was she was the princess of power, but could never go by that title in fear of giving away her identity!
Its hard out there for a Princess.
You were dealing with a lot of spoiled, entitled brats inhabiting adult bodies. But as I always point out, you facilitated the creation of the greatest MotU figures ever, and hundreds of them at that.
Low key I might have to check out Avo-Ca Dose
Awesome! They just launched a shampoo and conditioner
Scott the Shot in the forhead was a bit weird. The Filmation look actually saved the figure. Just my opinion though.
And exactly why we gave options!
Kinda seems like She Ra was the Mattel door knob .
I can't say that is how I see her....;-P
Lol
It is a downer to be 19 years old and that RUclips doesn't register your visit haha
I guess RUclips analytics have lots of rules
I hate people who whine about figures, just enjoy them or not buy them, get over it
And it really doesn't get you anywhere
One thing I still don't understand about your rights breakdown: Would the rights to do the She-Ra figures have been clearer if you had done them more firmly in their vintage toy look? I mean the dolls themselves were clearly an in house Mattel property, correct?
Likely yes. It was a mess. See this video: ruclips.net/video/BLiogQTyIAI/видео.html
The She-Ra controversy went on for years... Man, it's a tough fandom to want to be associated with. :P
Its true. Some issues never die. The Bart the.
You mentioned the difference between a doll and an action figure is molded hair..but wouldn't the Ken doll be the contradiction to that rule?🤔
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I know some collectors complain just too much, even about some small details. But the point about the forehead hole is that it's ugly! And I know you said you went the extra mile to allow the She-Ra figure to be displayed with the mask in two ways, but it's also true that you said you have to make toys the way people want to play with them. I'm not criticising you about the decisions you took but saying that what might be obvious to one party might not be obvious to the other.
Yes but you are never meant to see the hole. When it is covered by the mask you don't see it. It is like pulling off a leg and complaining that the stump is ugly.
Time travel in Avengers movie LOL
But did they use 1.21 gigowatz?
Filmation best look.i never liked the doll look I wanted it to fit with my he man toys as a kid
I saw people make there own she ra to sit on swift wing another I would have liked in comic stores
I agree. It is the iconic look
Being sexiest wasn't the issue, it was a lazy design. That's all, some people wanted a mask-less She-Ra face. Also, your answer to She-Ra sitting on Swiftwind is a very, very different answer than you gave in the old Ask Matty section; I was the first to ask the question and get an answer from you; I questioned how our current She-Ra was going to fit on Swift Wind. Your reply was "we got this". And I suppose you did by making me buy another figure since the first couldn't do what was promised. Weird revisionist history in some of these videos but I really appreciate your personal insight.
The intent was for Swiftwind's saddle to have a large "bump" that would let the original She-Ra indeed mount Swifty, but along the way the plans were changed. At the time I made that comment they had not. Things change ALL the time in the toy industry. I think it is one of the reasons I would be called out as a "liar" as I'd give an update to a current situation but then the situation would change for 1 of a million reasons and my previous comment was then called a lie vs an update that evolved, often for reason beyond my control!
So wait a second. if the original focus group of children could display the figure with the mask in either position why not just emulate that design instead of drilling a big hole in the figure's forehead?
The reason the mask worked both direction in the vintage line was the rooted hair. The new figure has sculpted plastic hair and did not allow the mask to be held in place by the hair the way the vintage doll did.
adult collectors are so mean and unappreciative, no wonder these toy companies only want to sell toys to kids 😂
It is true. And it is amazing how comments online can actually shut down lines
you know, when people shout misogyny or sexism over anything, they kinda cheapen the concept,
Pretty much. These are toys after all.
@@spectorcreative1872 Sadly, there has been misogyny & sexism directed at She-Ra ( & now, insanely, misandry against OG He-Man & She-Ra from a fanatic subset of the 2016 reboot's fanbase ), in a way that hurt the ENTIRE MOTU franchise, but it WASN'T the long hair & short-skirts ( which my little "pervy" male kid self, and also my lascivious male adult self remained a fan of: one of my favourite He-Man/She-Ra episodes is the one where original adult lady Frosta keeps trying to give He-Man THA BOOTY!! lol ) that were either ( I mean, nobody shouts "objectification" about the fact that He-Man's chest & the bottom of his ass have been on display forever ): rather it was in the marketing of the original toyline, and frankly in some of the creatives & executives involved ( listen closely to some of the commentary given on documentaries like "the toys that made us" & "the power of Greyskull" [ by the way Scott, loved seeing you on there: it took my second viewing of it to realize, "hey, wait, there is Toy Guru Scott who so kindly replies to my comments on his youtube videos!!" lol ] ), and in the social conditioning of the 80s which sadly made some 80s/ early 90s boys feel uncomfortable adding a She-Ra "doll" to their Masters collection ( many did so anyway, including many of us who weren't & aren't gay, but many [ often who HAD Evil-Lyn ] opted out for fear of "s*ssy" stigma ] ) , even though She-Ra was literally the third most famous & recognizable character in the entire MOTU franchise right behind He-Man & Skeletor themselves ( the mere fact that rooted hair is what differentiates an "action figure" from a "doll" is kinda sexist crazy bullshit... I always though of my She-Ra & Catra as action figures with nice hair... whereas the mean old lady who used to live next door to me considered ALL anthropomorphic toys to be dolls, whether it was He-Man, She-Ra, Lion-O, Mumm-Ra, or my foot tall monsters from the Inhumanoids franchise lol ). Now things have swung a bit too far in the other extreme direction.
But I think sexism definitely hurt MOTU, in so far as, if NOT for the sexism, I think the original 80s marketing on She-Ra would have been MUCH more effective ( I mean, She-Ra did well for a "flank" line, & both boys & girls bought her, & I firmly believe she initially helped He-Man sales, since the Secret of the Sword movie came out early in 1985, and 1985 & 1986 proved to be the two most profitable years in all MOTU histoy... but, still...), she would have been an even bigger boost on He-Man's sales than was the case, there would have been MUCH more crossover in their minicomics ( with both making frequent appearances in each other's toy-packaged-comics, instead of the only original toy-package-crossover being He-Man, The Sorceress, Grayskull & Hordak showing up in She-Ra's debut "the story of She-Ra" minicomic [ &, of course, Hordak himself recurring in He-Man's minicomics ]), & we probably wouldn't have all the batshit brand confusion we have today.
I think much of it is also due to the fact that the toy industry, which birthed He-Man & She-Ra, was/is much more obsessed with gender-divide than comics, novels, & movies, where the story comes first. One can't even imagine DC getting lax with the explicit rights of WonderWoman, & no one even half-imagines that her presence was ever anything less than a big net positive for Super Friends & Justice League ( animated & live action alike ). DC never made the mistake of putting any distance between WonderWoman & Superman, even though those two don't even belong to the same race: meanwhile, the studios have recently had TWIN SIBLINGS He-Man & She-Ra acting like strangers... It just ain't right, I tell ya lol.
Sigh... a doll look for all the POP characters... That would have been great. Oh what could have been :)
Nah. Glad was never done.
If time had been different...
@@spectorcreative1872 if it were, it would've been great considering what came after you left. The time you were there was def the Golden age of MOTU.
The RUclips analytics have to be mistaken, because there's a 19 yo in the comments, and I'm 17.
Not sure. I am not up on RUclips analytics that much. I do this for fun