Thanks for the demonstration I will grab your idea and run with it by trying it out for my Colt Walker cartridges. The cylinder is quite voluminous and the linnen should work nicely with it. Thanks again ❤
I use the Eras Gone Kerr bullet with hair curler paper or thin deli wrap for my revolver cartridges. The linen is kind of thick for that application, but it might work in the Walker. Post your results, I would be interested in how it works out.
Finally I got the right linen and got the time to make the cartridges for my Walker. I must say I was sceptical as the cartridges are very rigid. I tested them against cartridges I made with coffee filters, tracing paper and cigarette paper. I fired a load of 30 GR FFg with about 20 GR of cream of wheat under a round ball. Bottom I placed a coffee filter Patch for easy ignition from the cap When fired I get a cloud of shredded linen but the cylinder is nice and clean With the other methods I often get a piece of unburned paper in the cylinder. Mechanically the linen cartridges are more rugged, so I may switch to it permanently. Thanks ❤
@@sempertalis1230 Thanks for the update. No mater what paper I used to make revolver cartridges, there was always some paper not burned in the chamber. I will have to try linen myself in my Walker. What size ball are you using .454 or .457?
In the video I was using Black MZ, which requires no lube. If I'm loading real black powder, I use SPG Tropical which is firm enough to just rub into the bullet groves. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I used commercially produced nitrated paper from Buffalo Arms. I always had some unburned paper left in the chamber until I switched to linen, which always burned clean, I guess that is one of the reasons they made the switch back in the day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I don't shellac every cartridge because it adds an extra step. It does stiffen the cartridge up quite a bit and adds some waterproofing. It does not leave any residue.
Also what are the dimensions of the linen pieces that you cut out of the larger piece? And I noticed that as you have them drawn out on the larger piece that some of the sides are angled. Is there a reason for this?
The dimensions of your linen cartridges will most likely be different that mine. It will depend on the bullet you use and length of your chamber. An easy way to get your OAL is to push your bullet as far as it will go into the chamber with a dowel and mark the dowel. The angle in the pattern just keeps the seam straight when you roll them. There is some trial and error involved in getting your cartridges just right. Just make sure the completed cartridge is flush with the end of the chamber. Once you have it figured out, they are quick and easy to make.
It's problematic to ship products with gunpowder. The only one I know that sells Civil War ammo is Paper Cartridges out of Gettysburg Pa. He has a great you tube channel and a web site. good Luck!
No lube with Black MZ. I know, it goes against the grain. If your using real Black Powder, pack in all the SPG you can or she'll gum up pretty quickly.
Might try nitrocellulose varnish for very mild water resistance and ensuring complete combustion. But then again honestly I don’t think I’d mess with that given the nature of nitrocellulose…
I did try nitrocellulose lacguer while experimenting with paper cartridges. It is easy to make with smokeless powder. Your right, I decided not to mess with it. The linen burns completely, and makes a sturdier cartridge. That's why they made the switch back in the day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Well, both sides actually. Primarily the Yanks with 90,000 Sharps carbines in service. The Rebs produced a copy in Richmond in much smaller quantities and quality.
While linen works great for the big Sharps cartridges, I think it is too thick and stiff for pistol rounds. The old timers experimented with all sorts of material, even animal intestines but settled on paper. I use hair curler paper for mine.
Thank you very much for making this video. This information is extremely helpful and I found the video quite enjoyable to watch.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Sir, I applaud you, Great ammo build and detailed information. Thanks for posting. Regards....Doc
Thank you, that is a compliment coming from the master ammo archeologist. Thanks for the ironing line! Gp
Thanks for the demonstration
I will grab your idea and run with it by trying it out for my Colt Walker cartridges.
The cylinder is quite voluminous and the linnen should work nicely with it.
Thanks again ❤
I use the Eras Gone Kerr bullet with hair curler paper or thin deli wrap for my revolver cartridges. The linen is kind of thick for that application, but it might work in the Walker. Post your results, I would be interested in how it works out.
Finally I got the right linen and got the time to make the cartridges for my Walker.
I must say I was sceptical as the cartridges are very rigid.
I tested them against cartridges I made with coffee filters, tracing paper and cigarette paper.
I fired a load of 30 GR FFg with about 20 GR of cream of wheat under a round ball. Bottom I placed a coffee filter
Patch for easy ignition from the cap
When fired I get a cloud of shredded linen but the cylinder is nice and clean
With the other methods I often get a piece of unburned paper in the cylinder.
Mechanically the linen cartridges are more rugged, so I may switch to it permanently.
Thanks ❤
@@sempertalis1230 Thanks for the update. No mater what paper I used to make revolver cartridges, there was always some paper not burned in the chamber. I will have to try linen myself in my Walker. What size ball are you using .454 or .457?
I need to try making these. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching! I will never go back to paper after using linen.
Thanks for the video, very informative.How do you lubricate your bullets, and what do you use?
In the video I was using Black MZ, which requires no lube. If I'm loading real black powder, I use SPG Tropical which is firm enough to just rub into the bullet groves. Thanks for watching and commenting.
This is great.
Yea, linen is the way to go. Thanks for watching and commenting.
nice video !
Thanks for watching Bob. I appreciate the comment.
Where did you get the replacement gas plate and o ring? Would like to try that on mine. Carbine and Infantry rifle.
The carbine came equipped with the plate and o ring setup. The only thing I replaced was the nipple.
Nitrated paper is paper treated with nitric acid? Causes the paper to basically “flash off?”
I used commercially produced nitrated paper from Buffalo Arms. I always had some unburned paper left in the chamber until I switched to linen, which always burned clean, I guess that is one of the reasons they made the switch back in the day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Potassium nitrate
Thank you! Do you cast pure or wheel weight lead?
I cast these from roof sheathing, which is the softest lead I have.
I thought the shellac was interesting. Do you use that a lot, and was there any residue at all?
I don't shellac every cartridge because it adds an extra step. It does stiffen the cartridge up quite a bit and adds some waterproofing. It does not leave any residue.
Thank you for your reply. I’ll certainly be doing some experimenting after I get my 1859 back from Larry Flees’ overhaul
@@frankkalisz7455 I've heard Larry does good work. Good luck with your Sharps.
Also what are the dimensions of the linen pieces that you cut out of the larger piece? And I noticed that as you have them drawn out on the larger piece that some of the sides are angled. Is there a reason for this?
The dimensions of your linen cartridges will most likely be different that mine. It will depend on the bullet you use and length of your chamber. An easy way to get your OAL is to push your bullet as far as it will go into the chamber with a dowel and mark the dowel. The angle in the pattern just keeps the seam straight when you roll them. There is some trial and error involved in getting your cartridges just right. Just make sure the completed cartridge is flush with the end of the chamber. Once you have it figured out, they are quick and easy to make.
That’s wild!
Just got a 52 cal 1863 sharps carbine and looking to purchase a handful of dummy linen rounds and maybe a repro box if that is possible.
It's problematic to ship products with gunpowder. The only one I know that sells Civil War ammo is Paper Cartridges out of Gettysburg Pa. He has a great you tube channel and a web site. good Luck!
What are this for things you put over the powder ? and how many Grain you fill in it ?
I was using Circle Fly .510 1/8" over powder nitro cards. My load was 55 grains of black powder or bp substitute.
No lube on the bullets?
No lube with Black MZ. I know, it goes against the grain. If your using real Black Powder, pack in all the SPG you can or she'll gum up pretty quickly.
Might try nitrocellulose varnish for very mild water resistance and ensuring complete combustion.
But then again honestly I don’t think I’d mess with that given the nature of nitrocellulose…
I did try nitrocellulose lacguer while experimenting with paper cartridges. It is easy to make with smokeless powder. Your right, I decided not to mess with it. The linen burns completely, and makes a sturdier cartridge. That's why they made the switch back in the day. Thanks for watching and commenting.
My only question is Yanks or Rebs??
Well, both sides actually. Primarily the Yanks with 90,000 Sharps carbines in service. The Rebs produced a copy in Richmond in much smaller quantities and quality.
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Can you make linen cartridges for the colt navy or remington revolvers?
While linen works great for the big Sharps cartridges, I think it is too thick and stiff for pistol rounds. The old timers experimented with all sorts of material, even animal intestines but settled on paper. I use hair curler paper for mine.
@oldscoutgp i believe colt used foil for their cartridges as well.i don t believe they lasted long